The Man Who Conned A 35 Billion Fortune | The Big Steal

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2 жыл бұрын

By 1968, at 47 years old, Suharto emerged as Indonesia's number one man. For the next three decades, Suharto and his family allegedly amassed the largest ill-gotten fortune in all of Asia.
Most of which would likely never be recovered, constituting a $35 billion theft that continues to haunt Indonesians till this day.
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@BenHope
@BenHope 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy that this video fails to mention how the US essentially put him in power lol
@citizenx7585
@citizenx7585 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah U.S. played big part of supporting every Dictator during Cold war.
@zerofukzgiven
@zerofukzgiven 2 жыл бұрын
@@seamusbreen8485 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 2 жыл бұрын
@@seamusbreen8485 In the context of this video, it's not fitting at all. Do you have any idea how horrible Suharto is??
@mustertherohirrim7315
@mustertherohirrim7315 2 жыл бұрын
Shhhh. Look over there. Russia. Trump.
@hachibidelta4237
@hachibidelta4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@seamusbreen8485 this is sarcasm right
@jonhallanvenezuela687
@jonhallanvenezuela687 2 жыл бұрын
Indonesians and Filipinos suffered the same fate in history. Both were ruled by ruthless dictators who plundered billions from their countries coffers. Sadly, for us Filipinos, most of us have forgotten the lessons of the dictatorship. Coupled with relentless propaganda and disinformation, young Filipinos now view the Marcos rule as a golden period. I really hope that Indonesians do not make the same mistake that my country just did this week. As the late George Santayana once said. "Those who have not learned lessons from the past are condemned to repeat it".
@hiphophour6902
@hiphophour6902 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah even we called Ferdinand marcos as a “twin filipino brother of suharto”
@praisethelegendarymessiahs2617
@praisethelegendarymessiahs2617 2 жыл бұрын
Marcos is back.
@Von199X
@Von199X 2 жыл бұрын
Marcos is back baby
@ShadyAnchovy
@ShadyAnchovy 2 жыл бұрын
And now another marcos on the throne
@MrZab
@MrZab Жыл бұрын
The difference between Ferdinand marcos and Surharto Ferdinand marcos Sr he rather step down then going to war with the flipino people and go back to his home city but the US kidnapped him to Hawaii Ferdinand marcos Sr told his armys to not shoot civilians and drop their weapons even tho they are trying to bomb and get inside the malacanang Ferdinand marcos Sr build alot of bridges infrastructures houses for poor people Economy under martial law was the golden era of the Philippines economy to 1971 - 1978 1986 he didn't want to give his position to Cory aquino coz she is a house wife that knows nothing about government and economy policy He build a nuclear power plant so the flipinos people can have free electricity but was stop when Cory aquino took the position he told Cory to continue it but she said she doesn't want the flipino people to remember his name He had a plan about the flooding problem in Philippines that the flipinos are facing his flood control project were successful the last one didn't it was stopped when Cory aquino took the power Most of his projects that could have helped the Philippines economy were sold by the aquino and ramos administration like the steel corp and other government assets The people who live during his era said the life was much more better and easier I've never seen a dictator that made alot of things to his country i still believe he stole money but people who live during his presidency said he is the best president the philippines ever had His son bongbong marcos won the election in 2022 with over 31 Milion votes yet when he ran people said he will declared martial he will stole money he will kill every one that would say bad to his name he would change the airport name to marcos international Airport he will change the san juanico bridge to marcos bridge that his father built but the name was change when he was kicked out of the position they say the Philippines would be the next sri Lanka if he win there will be no investors will invest but he prove them wrong his state visit in Indonesia and Singapore President Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. secured $14.36 billion (804B) in pesos in investment pledges following his inaugural state visits to Indonesia and Singapore, which will support the administration’s economic recovery and job generation initiatives and his state visit in US is successful It is targeting to boost its revenues by as much as 10 percent thisyear and create over 1.1M Marcos Sept 18-24 working visit to the US bore fruit after securing USD3.9 billion in investment pledges which are expected to generate around 112,285 jobs President Bongbong marcos is the son of the late dictator ferdinand marcos sr he won with over 31 Milion in May 9 2022
@giotto_4503
@giotto_4503 2 жыл бұрын
Indonesians and Filipinos are truly alike, even in fate, both countries suffered from dictators who siphoned billions from the public coffers to enrich their families. Sadly, Filipinos seemed to have never learned from their history and have favored the late dictator's son in the recent presidential election. I hope Indonesians learn from their history and do not make the same mistake that the Filipinos had just done. God speed to us all.
@believe88
@believe88 2 жыл бұрын
same in malaysia
@sheenamaecatangui1725
@sheenamaecatangui1725 2 жыл бұрын
Malaysia and Indonesia, please make the right choice. To the Malaysian and Indonesian voters: SAVE YOUR COUNTRIES.
@brokenjawtheory
@brokenjawtheory 2 жыл бұрын
You mean with BongBong fiasco?
@lalakuma9
@lalakuma9 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm still completely baffled about that
@fikarkars
@fikarkars 2 жыл бұрын
Well today we indonesian are controlled by oligarchs, which more terrible.
@sslaia
@sslaia 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, the Indonesians have short memory and the young Indonesians haven't experienced, what it was like living under Suharto. Even the older ones, have only learned the Suharto's version of history at school. In that regard this video is very important for Indonesians along with the other documentary "The Act of Killing" by Joshua Oppenheimer, which is available in full on KZbin movie.
@JTD472
@JTD472 2 жыл бұрын
Judging by the recent election results, young Filipinos too
@casperchristensen6451
@casperchristensen6451 2 жыл бұрын
"The act of killing" is a haunting masterpiece. One of the best docus in my opinion. It has a equally good follow up "The look of silence", if you haven't watched it, friend.
@bandsawhand3092
@bandsawhand3092 2 жыл бұрын
Just like young pinoys who just voted for BBM to be President. Sad 😞
@amazingabby25
@amazingabby25 2 жыл бұрын
@@JTD472 I’m still in sick bong bong won
@guff9567
@guff9567 2 жыл бұрын
See this Chinese face? Not indigenous
@raymondnolasco7453
@raymondnolasco7453 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the video and reading the comments here; Indonesia and Philippines are TRUE brothers… with almost identical experiences and mindset. Godbless Indonesia! Mabuhay kayo!
@badjaklaut
@badjaklaut 2 жыл бұрын
Suharto with "orde baru" system ruined all Indonesia social structures with military force cruelty and the legacies still exist until today.
@darwinqpenaflorida3797
@darwinqpenaflorida3797 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah Orde Baru it’s just like in the Philippines as Bagong Lipunan or New Society so the analogy of New Order and New Society are very similar and differences
@seivful
@seivful 2 жыл бұрын
important note: Indonesia invasion to "Communist" Timor Leste was in blessing of US & Australia government
@piotrswat169
@piotrswat169 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the US like to feed scum for decades.You know making the world a better place😂
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 жыл бұрын
And when communism was no longer a threat “Australian peacekeepers” were in east timur to liberate it. And then went on to influence East Timur for oil access
@sevenhelmets
@sevenhelmets 2 жыл бұрын
@Troll Face yes, liberating the country from Indonesia, who invaded it in ‘75. But it’s ironic, as the US and Australia helped with the original invasion.
@TheDexsword
@TheDexsword 2 жыл бұрын
@@sevenhelmets more like oil f ur well being LoLoLoLol
@darnielng
@darnielng 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget all of these dictators were caught. Money still missing. We have more than 3 in Malaysia that have stolen more than that since 1980s. one of them was a prime minister twice and the oldest prime minister in the world. his entire family each one are multibillionaires. Can Vice add 1+2 together? In Malaysia. none of these were arrested yet. Just years of drama. One example Khir Toyo was release, and authorities kept quiet about the money he stole. Now Najib is just another drama. and he will quietly walk off.
@nxdeflowers
@nxdeflowers 2 жыл бұрын
The 80’s had it’s downs and rights, dictators everywhere 😂
@nunyabz9494
@nunyabz9494 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, the soeharto family case havent been updated, it's kept hush2 since the media are also controlled by those in power
@dpraldy3235
@dpraldy3235 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, the Soeharto family still lives on to this day with his father's riches, building businesses from all of those dirty cash and amassing powers. You'd be surprised just how much power & riches his child holds now from all of those "missing" 35 billion.
@tytube3001
@tytube3001 2 жыл бұрын
should send out hit squads to 'take care' off the children if they don't pay back
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j 2 жыл бұрын
@@nxdeflowers they are not dictators on the same level as Philippines and Indonesia though with using military
@casparsketchbook
@casparsketchbook 2 жыл бұрын
Atom Araullo! I'm a big fan of this reporter. I'm glad he's here. And yes, the same story goes to a late president of the Philippines, Ferdinand, who also stolen lots of money and his son set to rule the country as their 17th president
@YOGA47
@YOGA47 2 жыл бұрын
other country should copy india like ban mobile game tencent. India bad pubg, free fire but can't direct ban china products they will ban us too so we make excuses like they taking our data lol. Eg. they insults dead of india army on Olympic next day free fire ban. Now Ccp think before doing stupid things to india
@just_like_ruby3216
@just_like_ruby3216 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think this is just a plain coincidence that Atom Araullo is reporting this just a few days after the PH election? Is this an indirect warning/reminder to us Filipinos?
@FrancesAnneFong
@FrancesAnneFong 2 жыл бұрын
Indonesia to. Nagkataon lng. Kht sa malaysia may scandal dun 1MDB google mo and read about the corruption
@peonymagenta5139
@peonymagenta5139 2 жыл бұрын
I think any of his children dont really have political presence despite still being rich 🫠
@tananario
@tananario 2 жыл бұрын
No. You messed up all on your own.
@zvlfn
@zvlfn 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, be aware there man. Move out of that country before it's too late
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 2 жыл бұрын
They've already heard all the warnings so what warning are you talking about lol
@montys420-
@montys420- 2 жыл бұрын
The military have always run Indonesia! You cannot run for parliament and especially the presidential seat without aligning yourself to 1 of the major GENERAL'S from within the Indonesian army
@sussybussin3708
@sussybussin3708 2 жыл бұрын
And they're must be famous, even local actor and singer trying to be president
@inesfi66166
@inesfi66166 2 жыл бұрын
And many civilian there have short memory lost, they forget that suharto f up indonesian economy.
@montys420-
@montys420- 2 жыл бұрын
@@inesfi66166 he did both when he 1st came to power he created wealth a new class (middle) and the Asian economic recession wasn't his fault and it effected every sth East Asian country, however his deal with the IMF may have prolonged the hurt Indonesian ppl went through.
@inesfi66166
@inesfi66166 2 жыл бұрын
@@montys420- not really, that wealth are centralise in the groups that supporting suharto regime in jakarta or in other provinces (those fkrs have alot of money and assets until this day). His mismanagement already shown in his pelita policies, the rise of mid eco class are prioritize in java the rest get what left. this what made many union workers (that works in factories accros indonesia) dan local residents in other province clashed with central gov and their soldiers, media at that time suppress this reality, so that why people easily belive the statistic rather then what happened in reality. There are also natural resources policies that are so f up, some of them cant be fix now.
@brokenjawtheory
@brokenjawtheory 2 жыл бұрын
Those who holds the gun writes the history
@fajarsetiawan8665
@fajarsetiawan8665 2 жыл бұрын
My parents, despite being conservatives and sympathetic to some questionable causes, they still choose not to vote or support people associated with Soeharto's corruption who are still in politics today. They'd witnessed firsthand the cruelty, oppression, and other terrible impacts caused by the massive corruption this wicked president brought to this country. And they never misses a beat on reminding their children about this horrific era of "Orde Baru".
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Prabowo? If he still wanted to become President, I'm scared to vote for him. I heard he had a connection to Suharto.
@fajarsetiawan8665
@fajarsetiawan8665 2 жыл бұрын
@@L16htW4rr10r yeah my parents didn't vote for him
@hachibidelta4237
@hachibidelta4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@L16htW4rr10r he is supported by far right people that have religious fanaticism as their appeal. Like in America and their Christian fanaticism + guns. So even if the other option are shitty but unrelated to oligarch like Suharto, ill pick him.
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 2 жыл бұрын
@@hachibidelta4237 Wait, let me try to understand this. You will vote for Prabowo?
@hachibidelta4237
@hachibidelta4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@L16htW4rr10r nope even if its anies vs prabowo, it will be anies
@happyface96
@happyface96 2 жыл бұрын
We would never elect his son into office. I wonder how our neighbours does it?
@sarips841
@sarips841 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh we could've. Have you seen those tiktokers "pak bangun pak".
@sarips841
@sarips841 2 жыл бұрын
Many people still praising him because of how cheap the cost of living back then.
@happyface96
@happyface96 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I've seem something similar. I'm from Kalimantan and the common sentiments here (even from the youths) is really opposing him. But I don't know about the rest of the country.
@hachibidelta4237
@hachibidelta4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@happyface96 In Bali no
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 2 жыл бұрын
You can do surveys
@DomCOuano
@DomCOuano 2 жыл бұрын
From a Filipino to Indonesians... damn, you guys too??!? =(
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 2 жыл бұрын
No.. we destroy Tommy soeharto (Indonesia dictators son) Now Indo govt is trying to take back all his asset and destroy his financial power.
@DomCOuano
@DomCOuano 2 жыл бұрын
@@joMan1060 good! still sucks you guys had to deal with a dictator though
@fleischwolf82
@fleischwolf82 2 жыл бұрын
Many years back I was travelling in an Asia and got to know a group people in a pub. After several rounds of pool they invited me to join them for clubbing. Their luxury cars were parked on the sidewalks. Upon arriving at the best club in town, with a long queue, we went straight to the front and space was made immediately for us to get in. We got a lounge and expensive bottles were brought nonstop. Whenever my glass was empty or I put a cigarette in my mouth, there was immediately a servant to refill or light. Even on the dance floor they would follow and serve whenever "needed". It was the craziest night out. At the end of the night we shared contacts and they asked me to join them on a trip to Borneo. I later found out that they were members of the Suharto family. Till this day it feels strange to have been so close to this family.
@m0jomm835
@m0jomm835 2 жыл бұрын
Did u stay in contact with them?! That’s a crazy story. What year was it?! Cheers
@byrde4329
@byrde4329 2 жыл бұрын
Life is funny that way. Cool story!
@gabrielhagen1489
@gabrielhagen1489 2 жыл бұрын
What year was this
@AndalusianLuis
@AndalusianLuis 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielhagen1489 Don’t bother, this guy is full of it. I guarantee you none of this happened.
@lalakuma9
@lalakuma9 2 жыл бұрын
My mom still remembers the fact that some of her neighbors just mysteriously disappeared (most probably killed) when Suharto was getting rid of all the suspected Communists (apparently people were just killed even if they're not confirmed Communists). I think Indonesians' attitude towards Suharto definitely differs depending on who you ask. My parents are Chinese Indonesians who lived half of their lives under his regime, and they felt very systemically discriminated. Also he stole our country's wealth, ruled the country under a dictatorship, and his family never faced real consequences. I'm still angry about that, and I'm still happy that we got rid of him in 1998. Even though now Indonesia is more vulnerable to having religious extremists take over the government, we can't go back to a corrupt dictatorship again no matter what. It's just sad that a lot of Indonesians are still so ignorant. In a way, you can't have a working democracy with an ignorant population.
@sevenhelmets
@sevenhelmets 2 жыл бұрын
I knew an Indonesian truck driver who was alive during the communist wipeout. He told me the poor, uneducated villagers were promised land that they could farm on (they were sold the communist dream), so they willingly signed up to the communist party, not understanding the full implications of that. When the military crackdown happened, he was forced by soldiers to drive his truck to pickup the villagers and take them to a spot in the mountains, where the soldiers gunned the villagers down - straight into a mass grave. This likely happened all over the country, but this was just one anecdotal story I personally knew from someone who was there.
@Fuzzworth2000
@Fuzzworth2000 2 жыл бұрын
This report is so wack man... I suppose Vice is not exempt from putting out shitty journalism
@happyface96
@happyface96 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno about you but everyone outside of Java hate this man, his policies were detrimental to many tribal livelihoods even t this day.
@gabrielhagen1489
@gabrielhagen1489 2 жыл бұрын
True, as an Indonesian I would say that religious extremism would only invite another brand of a corrupt dictatorship.
@blue---monday
@blue---monday 2 жыл бұрын
im sure 70% of the country is of the opinion that soeharto is a murderous thug. i still believe (or at least try to believe) that everytime we keep hearing rethorics of how "prosperous" indo was during his reign, it was just a hyperfixated.. hyperbole, and only held true by either the elderly (because of ignorance), and weirdo middle class jakartans who have enjoyed a good life in the 70s-90s because they participated in free market capitalism. just remember that indonesians are NOT just jakartans.
@metalrockguy7833
@metalrockguy7833 2 жыл бұрын
Marcos: *Finally a worthy opponent*
@blessingpavari
@blessingpavari 2 жыл бұрын
Its literally crazy how this is a similar story in most suffering countries.
@ashred9665
@ashred9665 2 жыл бұрын
Humans you know. Same everywhere.
@deandeathstrike9398
@deandeathstrike9398 2 жыл бұрын
Indonesian: "we hate Soeharto along with his family and because of him we are in huge debt and our economy cannot be fully recovered" Also Indonesian: "we love Soeharto because life was good as everything was so Cheap and affordable. Hes the greatest president ever!!!"
@keithfrancis3014
@keithfrancis3014 2 жыл бұрын
It's exactly the same here in the Philippines.
@foryoutube9960
@foryoutube9960 2 жыл бұрын
look at the Philippines
@Dima-ci4gr
@Dima-ci4gr 2 жыл бұрын
yeah everything is cheap, even people lives are not worth to mention
@hafiznazhri1784
@hafiznazhri1784 2 жыл бұрын
Literally Malaysia’s love affair with Mahathir
@derpanzerkampfwagenv1392
@derpanzerkampfwagenv1392 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with that
@muhammadistigfarid
@muhammadistigfarid 2 жыл бұрын
Needed more like these. Keep digging Vice Team... Before 1965 please... And those documents... oooh... goodies for news digger...
@nightdragon1710
@nightdragon1710 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah need to cover some lunatic in old order
@Shaxitto
@Shaxitto 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew Indonesia's dictator managed to run off with such an insane wealth - it's definitely good for this to become public. The only issue I have with this video is the claim at 1:56 where the text claims Indonesia reached $4114 GDP per capita in 1997, when in reality it was only around a thousand dollars back then and it has only reached $4k about a year or two ago. When I saw this, it unfortunately made me wonder about the authenticity of the numbers thrown around in rest of the video.
@Eddybarrett84
@Eddybarrett84 2 жыл бұрын
4K gdp in 1997 doesn’t sound right. What’s your source please
@aylahughes9185
@aylahughes9185 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eddybarrett84 the hell are you talking about man, he said that 4k in 97 is inaccurate. thats the whole point he is making. tryna argue like a professor but cant even read like a 5th grader?
@aylahughes9185
@aylahughes9185 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eddybarrett84 whats your source dummy? reread his comment with your dunce cap on tight please.
@TheWorldsMyth
@TheWorldsMyth 2 жыл бұрын
He was referring to GDP PPP, shoud have specified it in the video
@Infamous41
@Infamous41 2 жыл бұрын
Aint no telling those countries back then had "mismanagements" bka corrupted officials. 4 thousand sounds better
@ladyluck5400
@ladyluck5400 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that we get free documentaries on KZbin by VICE News is truly a gift. 👍 👍 👍
@futures-sq7in
@futures-sq7in 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Vice is really brave to confront Suharto. In Indonesia the media dont talk about Suharto especially his family wealth or you might lose your life the next day.
@lijing8984
@lijing8984 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously?
@futures-sq7in
@futures-sq7in 2 жыл бұрын
@@lijing8984 im being serious, Vice just told his son got accused of corruption and he immediately ordered assasination of the court judge. No one here has the balls to talk about their cases.
@cynicallyclash
@cynicallyclash 2 жыл бұрын
@@lijing8984 Not really. Losing your life for criticizing the former dictator is a very very very rare occurrence nowadays since we have transitioned into a democratic republic. You are more likely crashing into one and two comments from hardline supporters or cybertroopers, but definitely and most likely not losing your life the next day.
@Infamous41
@Infamous41 2 жыл бұрын
Why? He lost 35 billie he should own that failure and move on. I only heard bout something happening like that once when Iris Chang wrote a book about the Nanking Massacre and the Japanese tortured her in the Arizona desert
@lijing8984
@lijing8984 2 жыл бұрын
@@futures-sq7in Tommy was "untouchable"during Suharto's reign, but then faced numerous criminal and civil trials after the fall of Suharto in 1998. [According to Wikipedia with references from foreign and Indonesian media]
@ZAR556
@ZAR556 2 жыл бұрын
unlike Singapore,, looks like Indonesia isn't bless with Good Governance nor Good Leadership.
@AS-yo2uy
@AS-yo2uy 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for bringing this up, same thing has happen in Malaysia--there is a netflix doc about it.
@avkezramos1160
@avkezramos1160 2 жыл бұрын
We have our own version in the Philippines. And fun fact it's happening again right now 2022. 😀
@mattyg2540
@mattyg2540 2 жыл бұрын
This guy makes Ferdinand Marcos look like a saint in comparison 😄
@markkusvibrittanica3513
@markkusvibrittanica3513 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattyg2540 Suharto is a worse guy thought, Marcos' athrocities only went to the tens of thousands (still an unjustified evil), but Suharto's genocide is estimated to have killed as high as 1.2 million.
@mattyg2540
@mattyg2540 2 жыл бұрын
@@markkusvibrittanica3513 I know, hence why I said this guy (Suharto) makes F.Marcos look like a Saint because Suharto was that evil.
@foxtailedcritter
@foxtailedcritter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this. I had absolutely no idea of this untill now
@panduwidagdo7051
@panduwidagdo7051 Жыл бұрын
My father actually miss this man, everything was better during his era, he said.
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 Жыл бұрын
Is good as long supported by cold war anti communism purge, easy job for him for a while. Shouldbhave be better and used the oppotunity to make indo become great but went for short term greed instead...
@hansholbein1047
@hansholbein1047 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why but is this atom subliminaly refering to a certain filipino who he cant critisise since hes the likely president now
@jesusdeputy931
@jesusdeputy931 2 жыл бұрын
The "guy" youre referring to is going to be pres i heard he won lets hopw for the best
@dw42424
@dw42424 2 жыл бұрын
This recent book by an American journalist explains a lot of the history of the coup in the 1960's and beyond The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World, by Vincent Bevins
@jonatanmarces9822
@jonatanmarces9822 2 жыл бұрын
It's a very good book. I recommend it also for fellow Latinoamericans.
@tatakalsum864
@tatakalsum864 2 жыл бұрын
Good job..as indonesian
@bungbess
@bungbess 2 жыл бұрын
yeah.. that was indonesia dark ages.. my hope that my country didn't come back to past..
@unitedchainsofamerica
@unitedchainsofamerica 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 it's still the dark ages over there man especially when it comes to drugs!
@bungbess
@bungbess 2 жыл бұрын
@@unitedchainsofamerica 😂well it's about perspective.. when we talk about Indonesia, then compare it with the era of President Soeharto and now, everything is better..
@noefvon
@noefvon 2 жыл бұрын
@@unitedchainsofamerica when it comes to drugs, its strict in indonesia.. just dont bring drugs
@sarips841
@sarips841 2 жыл бұрын
@@unitedchainsofamerica You can live without cocaine and others narcotics 🤷‍♂️
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very well done video, thank you
@joMan1060
@joMan1060 2 жыл бұрын
In soeharto era, eveything is cheap, including your life.
@containedhurricane
@containedhurricane 2 жыл бұрын
Oligarchs are powerful people due to their connections to/ controls over big military, political and/ or religious groups. Many countries have these kind of people, especially the developing ones where military and religious groups are rampant
@zwzwz00
@zwzwz00 2 жыл бұрын
Some countries are just destined to harm themselves by themselves..
@justinnamuco9096
@justinnamuco9096 2 жыл бұрын
We'll see, including them. They will see.
@roofingcontractors3349
@roofingcontractors3349 2 жыл бұрын
Greed, the downfall of mankind
@vejet
@vejet 2 жыл бұрын
7:17 "Solders with checkbooks" I like that one! 😃
@rafayatrasti7627
@rafayatrasti7627 2 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty much what’s happening in bangladesh now
@eilois
@eilois 2 жыл бұрын
would like to see series of the benevolence dictators of Turks, Yugoslavia, and Singaporean PM Lee Kuan Yew
@Eddybarrett84
@Eddybarrett84 2 жыл бұрын
Term limits are a MUST
@kingochea5360
@kingochea5360 2 жыл бұрын
ohhh atom you are the part of the vice news diko akalain hahaha from cebu
@youngmasterzhi
@youngmasterzhi 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Suharto walks around with his hands on his hips all the time, both in private and in public (P.S. For those who don't know, putting your hands on your hips is considered rude in Indonesia, because it is considered a sign of greediness)
@jaysizzle7777
@jaysizzle7777 2 жыл бұрын
I sometimes walk with my hands on my hips. Not because im greedy but my posture is trash
@peterliem2480
@peterliem2480 2 жыл бұрын
I did that when I ate too much Indomie
@hermansantoso5479
@hermansantoso5479 2 жыл бұрын
It's also me. Encok.
@Girliekarma84506
@Girliekarma84506 2 жыл бұрын
haha
@gracebabaran8590
@gracebabaran8590 2 жыл бұрын
atom on vice. happy for you man
@aurora3655
@aurora3655 2 жыл бұрын
my rule of thumb is don't allow men with funny hats any form of control. it serves me well.
@UserAme99
@UserAme99 2 жыл бұрын
Need more this kind of video. Focus on SEA country.
@mckevindauntless698
@mckevindauntless698 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that Atom Araullo is in Vice News. Wow
@charlesjava2477
@charlesjava2477 2 жыл бұрын
Atom on vice! Congrats bro
@justjohnny05
@justjohnny05 2 жыл бұрын
what can anyone specially an old man do with 35 billion? its STUPID
@satriaamiluhur622
@satriaamiluhur622 2 жыл бұрын
And yet many indonesian people, especially the older generation, still fondly remember suharto. his regime is generally perceived as the safest, and the most stable period in indonesian history. It's the period where thieves, robbers, and criminals are quickly killed on spot by petrus (silent assassins), religion extremism is clamped down harshly, and any kind of social discontent is put to stop before it even happens. It's a police state at its finest. Then again, most indonesians were still very poor and much prefer living in safety over political freedom
@meinelust
@meinelust 2 жыл бұрын
True, the good thing about that period was the relative safety compared to now. Especially that religion extremism is clamped down harshly. FPI, HTI, and any other treasonous "religious" organizations were quickly dealt with before they grew bold.
@niningrz4864
@niningrz4864 2 жыл бұрын
I really hate when I encountered some memes or random people said "Piye, wenak jamanku tho?" Even older people they hve a short-term memory it seems and I was only in 6th grade when Reformation happened. I still remember the horror when our family had to spent the nights in terror. Even tho I'm not a Chinese. May God save our country from people like him
@dxtxzbunchanumbers
@dxtxzbunchanumbers 2 жыл бұрын
Life was also much more simple before and during Suharto. All many people cared about was rice and kerosene. For decades, elections were pro forma; someone from the military would come to a village and "instruct" illiterate peasants how to vote (i.e., to put mark next to Suharto/Golkar).
@blue---monday
@blue---monday 2 жыл бұрын
safest???! org gila ya lo. aman buat lo doang kali orang kota dari keluarga menengah. coba lo bilang "safest" ke orang2 timor leste korban pembantaian santa cruz, ke petani2 dan guru ngaji non ekstrimis yg dibantai di talangsari, dan ke keluarga dari korban penghilangan paksa yg sampe hari ini tiap kamis masih berdiri depan istana negara. it's a police state at its worst. it was only financially stabile up to a point until the bubble burst, because its initial prosperity was built on top of theft. it's a period where contrarians, dissenters and the working class were murdered like flies. pure theatre of barbarism.
@mischa6688
@mischa6688 Жыл бұрын
Dictators like Suharto and the one from Philippines are good in masking and putting up a facade that everything is in order and the country is flourishing.
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 2 жыл бұрын
Suharto, best friend of the American Government, through thick and thin and blood and war. *
@ArachnidFran
@ArachnidFran 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder he can grab 32 years of corrupt power
@tananario
@tananario 2 жыл бұрын
Most Americans have never hear of him. Most Americans have no idea that Indonesia exists.
@brokenjawtheory
@brokenjawtheory 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@TheDexsword
@TheDexsword 2 жыл бұрын
@@tananario yep american rly dont understand how many awful things their government done for the sake of our citizen well being. When we literally treated like feaces and they have nerve to say its for our good. What a joke.
@hiaant5467
@hiaant5467 2 жыл бұрын
@@tananario ofc you dont know america wealth(including yours if you are rich:)) is based on CIA and this puppet in indonesia 🤣🤣
@pe.h.p
@pe.h.p 2 жыл бұрын
reupload?
@augu345
@augu345 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast Indonesians are realizing the truth behind reality and past , not like the Indian ones, comment section is the prime example
@Tis_I_SirJames
@Tis_I_SirJames 2 жыл бұрын
It would only be fair to do a story on the US government and how $2 trillion dollars, yes, with a T, mysteriously disappeared and has never been accounted for.
@nemohominum7618
@nemohominum7618 2 жыл бұрын
Do not worry. Many Indonesian nowadays still like Suharto and sometimes want to return to his era. 😄
@nemohominum7618
@nemohominum7618 2 жыл бұрын
@au ah gelap wkwkwk
@stereophonics69
@stereophonics69 2 жыл бұрын
Wow....nice info Vice.... This is so...true...
@mulyadilim5705
@mulyadilim5705 2 жыл бұрын
When this news came in 90's the anchor would be gone forever. And also all his families
@gilangfajar2841
@gilangfajar2841 Жыл бұрын
This 7 minutes documentary worth more than 12 years of national history lesson in our school, here in Indonesia.
@ethanlee7125
@ethanlee7125 2 жыл бұрын
Vice should do a story about the corruption of religious laws against non Muslims in Indonesia, especially against the Chinese Indonesians that are Christians or Catholics and laws that prohibites Christians to build new churches or cannot say anything about Islam. As a Christian myself, 2 things I was told never to talk about in Indonesia, Islam and government abuse of power.
@edison4eva
@edison4eva 2 жыл бұрын
Story of Malaysia too.
@luisBahu
@luisBahu 2 жыл бұрын
What a gorgeous hair...I know I'm suppose to comment about a guy stealing a bunch of money but this reporter's hair is so beautiful I just couldn't pay attention. Had to watch it twice! Lol
@renomontenegro7862
@renomontenegro7862 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I'm watching a Philippine-based KZbin channel. Atom fits well in his new home.
@CorporalDead
@CorporalDead 2 жыл бұрын
Same! I had to check if it was ABS or something. Glad he's in a better place.
@gamecamp4976
@gamecamp4976 2 жыл бұрын
Not new home nasa GMA pa rin siya baka new job lang
@renomontenegro7862
@renomontenegro7862 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamecamp4976, 😊 fact is: you can have more than one home...
@gamecamp4976
@gamecamp4976 2 жыл бұрын
@@renomontenegro7862 K.
@bresams2917
@bresams2917 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been so confused by a vice program. I heard 32 billion das it. I'm sorry I tried to keep up.
@salsheikh4508
@salsheikh4508 2 жыл бұрын
You need to buy a shirt one size larger. You've outgrown Baby Gap Sir.
@oddworldblues
@oddworldblues 2 жыл бұрын
Meatball souppp!!!!! Anyone wants a meatball soup?
@wouterstigter812
@wouterstigter812 2 жыл бұрын
6:26 i believe putins net worth is estimated to be anywhere between 70 to 200 billion, so way more than Suhartu...
@lijing8984
@lijing8984 2 жыл бұрын
$200 billion [CRUX]
@jumagames0062
@jumagames0062 4 ай бұрын
Saya orang indonesia sangat membencinya tapi orang malaysia sangat menyukainya fakta
@nickk9499
@nickk9499 Жыл бұрын
and him and his activities were supported by the USA from 1960's onwards that allowed him to get away with so much
@Eddybarrett84
@Eddybarrett84 2 жыл бұрын
Military in emerging markets seems to be a way to the VERY TOP,SADLY
@_zkittlez_1956
@_zkittlez_1956 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that was Manny Pacquiao for a second lol
@SiBebok
@SiBebok 2 жыл бұрын
THIS is ATOM reporting right?! So proud of the guy!!! Love you Atom, ur the best!
@FilipinoGuyOfficial_Handle
@FilipinoGuyOfficial_Handle Ай бұрын
Wrong map of Indonesian though. At 0:06, why is Sarawak, Labuan, and Sabah part of Kalimantan?
@AntNishu
@AntNishu 2 жыл бұрын
Next, people of Indonesia will elect his children. Just like Phillipines!
@amalferdiansyah4881
@amalferdiansyah4881 2 жыл бұрын
Mantap
@marinhopaais426
@marinhopaais426 8 ай бұрын
Facilitated by the West. The money can be recovered if the Central Banks from the nations who cooperated and facilitated open up and allow financial research. The damage imposed by the IMF thanks to Michel Camdessus was much larger. The closing of Indonesian banks increased capital flight.
@larsfinlay7325
@larsfinlay7325 2 жыл бұрын
people say I am just rubber stamp, what is wrong with using rubber stamp?
@shinuradevil
@shinuradevil 2 жыл бұрын
The one that make suharto great is his wife
@craeddock
@craeddock 2 жыл бұрын
Yay deconstructing foreign nationalism. 🙌 Don't steal or seek control, just aide in honest deconstruction. Regional sovereignty relies on solidarity. ✊
@rkustanto
@rkustanto 2 жыл бұрын
Finally thanks to bring this news!! 🙏🏼, They almost win in presidential election in 2019..
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 2 жыл бұрын
If the American government had backed them as they did Suharto they would have won! *
@807800
@807800 2 жыл бұрын
And yet, the nightmare many were feared from that candidate actually happened. lol
@roxaskaragi879
@roxaskaragi879 2 жыл бұрын
Almost how ? Tommy Suharto party barely even got 2% in election
@rkustanto
@rkustanto 2 жыл бұрын
@@roxaskaragi879 prabowo clan
@roxaskaragi879
@roxaskaragi879 2 жыл бұрын
@@rkustanto Prabowo have more stronger leverage than the Suharto family. Not the opposite. I don't see how Prabowo ties to this video
@unitedchainsofamerica
@unitedchainsofamerica 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always nervous when I fly through Indonesia... Remember the Bali 9? The United States forced the war on drugs on the rest of the world through "foreign aid packages" #ENDPROHIBITION
@mamidrohamid4732
@mamidrohamid4732 2 жыл бұрын
please dont come here, you are not welcome
@ericwong4213
@ericwong4213 2 жыл бұрын
he didn't corrupt that much. all people below him who corrupt, easily boo-ed him at the end and blame this man as responsible person for all their corrupted money. Also at least he's brave enough to risk his life and declare the end of his power instead of turning the whole nation into Libya. Even like that, East Timor was invaded by Australia.
@Chandankumar-qw6hb
@Chandankumar-qw6hb Ай бұрын
30 years power one man
@Martingale021
@Martingale021 2 жыл бұрын
The family should be put to trial
@user-jk1jv5vu8x
@user-jk1jv5vu8x 2 жыл бұрын
How tho? Putting that kind of family to trial in Indonesia? Impossible.
@Acharmedlife
@Acharmedlife 2 жыл бұрын
Same reason the trump’s are not in prison.
@Bugnarok
@Bugnarok 2 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest newspaper in Indonesia (Kompas) wrote in their statement (year 1998) "20.000 people would be dragged together if Soeharto brought to the court of justice". It's not undermining statement, due to the large amount of people involved with him. They are all in high position and high ranking officials, so it's like not gonna happened.
@patrickhenry6695
@patrickhenry6695 2 жыл бұрын
@@Acharmedlife that dude is still on your mind? It's been years
@nghtmre6896
@nghtmre6896 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@ygjt76v0-----
@ygjt76v0----- Жыл бұрын
For me soeharto are cool 🔥
@satria9154
@satria9154 2 жыл бұрын
How the hell we easily forget about this men corruption and wish someone like him rise once again 😏
@carsten9168
@carsten9168 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone should watch the famous documentary film 'The Act of Killing' by Joshua Oppenheimer on Suharto's killing of about 500,000 people including political opponents mostly by torture and garotting (slow strangulation). This includes the execution of 10,000 army officers and generals shot by army firing squads ! In one scene, his killers (no one has ever been charged) was heard boasting 'That one who's shouting 'Allah U-Akbar' at the local mosque's loudspeakers at prayer time' escaped our death squads' in 1968 ! At least Indonesia learnt their mistake and voted 'Mr. Clean' Jokowi while Philiipines forgot their history and voted Marcos again !
@ophanimangel3143
@ophanimangel3143 Жыл бұрын
They voted Marcos because Philippine is not parliamentary and president only has 6 years of term. If say we were Parliamentary and that we have unlimited terms for presidency then until now Duterte would’ve still been president. Other than that, we have about 31 million dummies who bought into the delusions of the Marcoses. God help us here.
@mikeskinner8081
@mikeskinner8081 2 жыл бұрын
production of this video is not up to Vice standards, edit it
@ridhobaihaqi144
@ridhobaihaqi144 2 жыл бұрын
Ah... corruption, collusion and nepotism. That is indo's culture! Overproud indo SHOULD proud and protect that culture!!
@mgee1449
@mgee1449 Жыл бұрын
Well, when stealing is ok, the Indonesian has never been taught how to be responsible and held any accountability in their action. Live is the same but a bit better I guess. I wish Jokowi could stay longer. Soeharto’s era showed how corrupt its soul and mind
@hl3641
@hl3641 2 жыл бұрын
Human can’t resist greed and power so rules and ZERO TOLERANCE must be established for public office holders and families. If u serve people, then serve purely
@Omer1996E.C
@Omer1996E.C 2 жыл бұрын
Won't you make a video about the freedom fighter American palestinian journalist assassinated by the Israeli occupation forces in 11th of may 2022 live on air?
@nateriver5936
@nateriver5936 2 жыл бұрын
It will not be gone since religion as major instrument keep people in check and polarize their view on the issues that are happening in the country. Might not seem so, but religion is a big deal in Indonesia, second to hatred toward communist or other left leaning idea. Basically, the horizontal conflict will never stop, people vs people, unless all the old cronies and thinking died out. which is unlikely tbh.
@lijing8984
@lijing8984 2 жыл бұрын
Discrimination against people of Chinese descent in Indonesia is also an issue right?
@nateriver5936
@nateriver5936 2 жыл бұрын
@@lijing8984 yeah thats the third one
@lijing8984
@lijing8984 2 жыл бұрын
Is it common to have law enforcement (policemen etc) guarding the church during Christmas eve mass or the temple during Vesak day celebration or other celebrations by minority religions in Indonesia?
@hachibidelta4237
@hachibidelta4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@lijing8984 yes in Jakarta dont know about others, but its only for major ones. Usually churches because of bombing historym
@lijing8984
@lijing8984 2 жыл бұрын
@@hachibidelta4237 I really can not comprehend why did those terrorists or extremists bombing people who just want to gather to celebrate & praying.
@eggshell6584
@eggshell6584 2 жыл бұрын
so nasa vice kana ngayon ha atom
@westeam4247
@westeam4247 2 жыл бұрын
2000 mules is 'the big steal'
@sebastianwardana1527
@sebastianwardana1527 2 жыл бұрын
this is not taught in schools
@callasky
@callasky 2 жыл бұрын
You can actually do a simple Google and find it everywhere. Not everything is taught in school.
@niningrz4864
@niningrz4864 2 жыл бұрын
My teacher taught all her students about these story when I'm in 11th grade. Even tho it's not in the Tata Negara books 😂.
@voodooutt
@voodooutt 2 жыл бұрын
If you think USA is corrupt.... Indonesia takes the cake. I know people are glad Jokowi won.
@trk1b28varianrhesa4
@trk1b28varianrhesa4 2 жыл бұрын
now, 70% of people hate Jokowi because of Government corruption and incompetents
@Chandankumar-qw6hb
@Chandankumar-qw6hb Ай бұрын
5:30 ad than bailout from imf
@InesElm-dj9tn
@InesElm-dj9tn 5 ай бұрын
SOHARTO WAS THE BOY PF THE US GOVERNMENT
@fella9293
@fella9293 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, Cambodia won't following this kind of path
@frogstock2597
@frogstock2597 2 жыл бұрын
No your government has sold off your Country to China so you have different issues
@fella9293
@fella9293 2 жыл бұрын
@@frogstock2597 From father to son