The Man Who NERFED Magnus - Spirit.Collapse

Valve nerfed Magnus after The International 10 because of Collapse Horn Toss and Skewer plays
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[@masterrain26]

Collapse - The man who nerfed Magnus Jerax - The man who nerfed Earth Spirit Ana - The man who buffed the fountain and nerfed the io

[@basictv3435]

Miracle- the man who nerfed invoker Miracle- the man who nerfed arc warden Miracle- the man who kill Roshan in 1sec. Miracle- the man who depence the base in the history

[@zhandossmagulov2115]

@@basictv3435 pfff

[@ameame32]

Wasn't that arc warden play similar to how topson did his defense but for the t4 towers in ti8? Also killing roshan in 1 sec. is been here for years remember that rubick one shot roshan?

[@batochirtamjid6584]

@@basictv3435 yeah that is true

[@Faradars1]

@@basictv3435 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@FrightTVAnimations]

The man who also spawned thousands of Magnus throwers in pub games

[@arireynaldy]

TI3 Hook Dendi Express, TI10 SKewer Collapse Express xD

[@gamaf2409]

TI 9 TIny airline Express

[@Ali-Bora23]

Dont ever compare those two again

[@exdre8559]

@@Ali-Bora23 He didn't compare them relax

[@Ali-Bora23]

@@exdre8559 dont even say them im the same sentence

[@chivaljazz]

@@Ali-Bora23 so what you will do? What can you even if he compares.

[@anbu999]

"Not technically a die back, it is a respawned and die immediately"

[@H4FI2]

lol burn

[@atakama6375]

Icefrog: The man who nerfed CM.

[@nbhage2178]

She still needs a nerf

[@FuNoK83]

is that kinda meme all about this CM nerf? how has she been nerved?

[@duandabriandika]

i actually think magnus isnt a broken hero before the nerfed, its just because collapse using it very well (imo)

[@celeste388]

Isn't broken? The horn toss skewer didnt even gave players room to counter react. The moment you got horn tossed, you're done. Why did you think they changed Horn toss to a 100% slow, that's to give players room to counter the combo

[@georgeallison6528]

Only Arise could make this hero really work without horn toss back then. Collapse's positioning was godlike indeed, but horn toss made things way easier.

[@mza3544]

Horn toss cast time was waaay to fast even before the collapse incident. I once watched mason screaming at his tide for not ravaging in time but the cast time is just too quick

[@SheaSyz]

yes , magnus is not that goodd it just magnus follow up at this video was really good their ally react fast from collapse skewer, if he skewer and team didnt react , probably it will team wipe from magnus fault just like how if it skewer enigma, tide, or some aoe hero, or strong aoe carry you can see collapse got rekted while skewer centa

[@w1ngk]

Are you even following the matches, even analyst and some pro player mention that horn toss aoe too big, cast time is fast and cd is low before international 10. Magnus has the same level of broken to tiny in that patch.

[@gamerx3972]

5:40 the way she says yatoro

[@hydroman08]

horn toss in that patch was like an abyssal blade

[@sinhaboyy5639]

Yatoro's hero pool is unreal. The lad just likes playing whatever he gets on.

[@KidTrigger]

You should see my hero pool it’s huge too when I play in ti you’ll see

[@MaximaToluene]

Is it yatoro or his team creates a great space he just gets fat like crazy

[@quickstrings9505]

@@KidTrigger Stay strong buddy

[@belomtidur13hari]

@@MaximaToluene it is.. yatoro.. imagine doin all hero challenge scoring rampage after rampage on TI, and actually winning

[@lexsaito1189]

that skewer cancel wow 10:47

[@WoloW1zard-]

17:48 who uses minimap to skewer @@

[@Marschal.A]

Yeah that this man mouse movement unpredictable and so fast

[@ЖакуповКуаныш]

На групповой стадии TI10 он говорил что лучший на магнусе после Arise .тогда я подумал ничего себе самооценка

[@Федорпервый-п5у]

А теперь все думают что он тогда прибеднялся)

[@Marschal.A]

That force staff click is actually for dark willow but tiny blink in in the click are thats why the force staff goes to tiny rather than dw

[@saishlad7977]

If he wanted to force dw, he would’ve done it quite early there

[@ravekid5282]

Сильный герой в руках обычного узника - выстрел себе в колени, сильный герой в руках сильного игрока - это имба. Валв этого не понимают. Большинство челов даже не щнали про силу магнуса до колапса, а как узнали мало что изменилось. Герой как имел 48% винрейта, так и имеет 48% винрейта.

[@gunterodim1535]

магнус всегда был средним героем. На нём нужно прям гением быть чтобы так играть, либо задрачивать десятки часов. Людям это не нужно потому что ты можешь просто пикать обоссаного клинкза или зевса и поднимать ммр

[@akmallisham4952]

And yet every captain who fight team spirit always refused to ban magnus bcoz they think they can manage.... they never respect collapse's magnus

[@yami_curr]

actually PSG LGD countered them 1 time with XinQ rubick but on last map they decided to not counter his magnus xd

[@ytaiku]

@@yami_curr I think because rubick is banned by TS, and they pick Skywrath to counter magnus, but it doesn't work like rubick

[@altannedjati9861]

Great video. what is the name of the song in the background min 14:10 ? Thank you.

[@arsgg6090]

Heroes nerf are normal through patch.. he's still cant beat the io god ana.. the one who's buffed fountain itself..

[@neodestiny3820]

Agree

[@tiktoknialingmarites4462]

Fucking yes.

[@structuredchaos6784]

2:50 bonk

[@w1ngk]

Kuku use magnus and comeback from lower bracket, collapse did use magnus incredibly well but magnus is definitely busted before collapse is using it, you can see alot of pub players are using magnus especially china, the popularity increase so much when horn toss is introduce. magnus is just like, navi picking chen + pudge, it falls to the wrong hand and "how is this balance" quote.

[@fadwen88]

Exactly! Horn Toss was so damn eady to land, didnt even need to target it. You just blindly pull off Blink Horntoss Skewer back and it was 100% guaranteed to land.

[@xxVanos]

Arise did it better without horn toss and buff to first skill. Props to Collapse though, he plays a good Magnus.

[@jawsdc9062]

yeah, the horn toss made the major catches here if its not available at TI, I dont think they'd won this TI

[@xxVanos]

@@thechan8042 cry elsewhere.

[@JS_246]

How is S4 supposed to compete in TI if they keep nerfing him?

[@Rockycm1]

3:05 how did they know that AXE was there???

[@morsyd289]

3:02

[@ФедорГеоргиевич-ь1ю]

Переводчик Яндекс Браузера с ума сошел, когда включил)))

[@joyfulrochansang2382]

Its this type of people who change dota. He hardly plays pubs. Yet demolishes players who dominate pubs.

[@opacaropjile]

Nope, Ar1se^ was just under-rated and didn't have a good team.

[@naofumi6977]

Don't forget the man who buff the fountain🤣

[@AceADawg]

BEST Magnus to ever do it.....Ti champion

[@daud0778]

Also every team: meh let's not ban magnus

[@jpimentel1738]

Collapse is good on mars and tide higher win rate lol

[@kekro7660]

@@jpimentel1738 even his doom is effin scary

[@exort7010]

Man who NERFED CM is more impressive for me

[@smilingbunny3282]

Overused shit

[@freyawargoddesss6287]

@@smilingbunny3282 The entire community knows but yea CM still needs a nerf

[@tarunzite5884]

Who?

[@smilingbunny3282]

@@tarunzite5884 your mom

[@Линт]

Отличное достижение, но человек, который баффнул фонтан на другом уровне.

[@ПравоИмеющий-н6у]

Данило?

[@Faradars1]

What was the nerf?

[@fadwen88]

... guys, lets not pretend like Horn Toss was a hard to utilize ability :) it was literally the most OP shit ever. You could do the combo just automatically, Blink Horntoss Skewer back. You hit 100%. No offense but 4k plebs pulled off thr same shit, it was the Supports who nerfed it. The Visiongame was insane, and without it, those Pickoffs never would have happend. Not to take away something from TI Winners, but im kinda tired of people acting like that shit was hard to pull off.

[@936alex2]

Collapse is good but overrated.... Nobody even remember game 5 where TT was killing the backlines only for magnus to dominatem... Collapse is best pos3 but still is very overrated..

[@936alex2]

Your statement so true...when faith bian also use magnus he is equally danger

[@mahadmukhtar3806]

laughing on opponents who knew that he has good homework on Magnus still they are not banning magnus.. :D

[@banner7925]

I mean, the toss being a hard stun is kinda op

[@likulaki6672]

TI 10 NO BAN MAGNUS? WIN. TI 9 NO BAND IO?WIN.

[@Ainzel_Klien]

But why not just ban his Magnus tho.

[@kazookiddo7605]

Nahh, Jerax is way better. He is the man who nerfed Earth Spirit and Tiny.

[@noobfromsea5900]

Thanks for giving us the enjoyment TSpirit.Magnus 😍

[@SLABONECHD]

este magnus les hizo el torneo en gran parte

[@nuub82]

I wouldn't say he's the man that nerfed magnus. I mean bro, literally everyone picks magnus a lot. Because all of them knows how broken he is since the beginning of tournament

[@Евгетон]

А травоман РЕВОРКНУЛ текиса, и я считаю что это легендарнее

[@oODauFinOo]

If you think that collapse is a good Magnus, watch Ar1se playing it, you will think that collapse is a kid then

[@justinekarlsescon8765]

A kid??? Using magnus in TI Like that?? TI finals?? Against OG? PLAying magnus like that in a biggest dota2 tournament was freakin insane. Yes I know Ar1se is good but using word kid to collapse compared to Ar1se is freakin noob.

[@oODauFinOo]

@@justinekarlsescon8765 Ar1se is a God Magnus, And What's so special about TI, it's a damn pro match.

[@sandhywinartja8662]

@@oODauFinOo Ofc 3k like u wont understand bro

[@936alex2]

@@sandhywinartja8662 collapse magnus is horn toss skewer which is very easy ..... But collapse still best pos 3 in ti.... But why he use magnus in ti final is because lgd scared collapse mars more than his mag

[@ricardoalcantaracampos4811]

lmao, arise would be 5 deaths min 8 against any team on ti.

[@vincentrayalba5936]

Collapse Magnus God.

[@warewarewatandesu2058]

Show some hate boys.

[@jpii3427]

I thought. Valve who nerf magnus. 🤔

[@lazypawtato8701]

This woman commentator just say everything even the smallest detail lol

[@whapakwhapak]

most veteran teams in TI didnt even show respect, magnus is a game changer even before the playoff bracket and yet they barely bans it LOL

[@starboylahat3411]

It's more like the man who is lucky to use poorly developed imbalance horntoss upgrade broken magnus

[@fraseinspiradoradodia]

moster epic

[@cornelioiii7305]

Magnus is balanced, it's just collapse's gameplay isn't

[@wanahmadiqbalbinwanmohdadl7489]

unquestionable

[@ChaoticSeaServer]

the man who wil be forgotten because he is from russia and gonna be with stuck in russia soon

[@motnatt303]

arise still better magnus

[@korra322]

Ar1se

[@ikubarus.6966]

Not Collapse nerfing magnus, rather is he is the cause magnus got nerfed.

[@Ортём-ф9э]

Это было супер очевидно, ведь раньше приходилось правильно давать РП, поворачиваясь во время каста, а тут прыгнул нажал кнопку+оглушил, увёз, если надо продолжил РП.

[@natutv27]

да и всегда у спирит идеальный вижен, и у соперников отключается мозг

[@amerhaziq]

ggwp

[@familykz9581]

Коллапс выйграл инт

[@echiskarasal5969]

the teams winn ti10