The Mandalorian Season 3 is a Waste of Time

[@master_samwise]

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[@Eilonwy95]

You may have some good points here. It’s good and totally fine to disagree with an analysis. I’m glad you at least list your reasons. I completely disagree with resorting to calling someone “childish” and “whiny” just because they disagree with you on whether or not a show is good. Just state your case (he stated his at length in the video) and skip the lazy ad hominem attacks. They are unproductive. Treat people on the internet like you would treat people face to face. With respect.

[@rmw9420]

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[@geraintthatcher3076]

Other shows to try A The Terror, that's really good and only 10 episodes B given its the same writer fir the new Rey Movie, The Peaky Blinders C Given Dave Filoni is making it live action with Ahsoka, I guess you should try Rebels though it's not very good D Deep Space Nine

[@TikatsuHyunho]

Sam, I don’t think that bokataj really got it back. Mando was fought, he was caught and restrained by SURPRISE. If you do it to Bo katan, still the same answer. The robot did not best anyone, show even said that it waited for a long time for mandalorians

[@Eilonwy95]

You may be right. The show seems to think that it belongs to Bo Kantan now though.

[@mardy3732]

Personally rewatching Andor to remind myself that good writing in star wars is still possible.

[@lembitmoislane.]

But not when connected with the Disney uncanon films and shows. Andor benefits GREATLY by having no connection to them.

[@jujuboohoo]

Tony Gilroy said they had very little adult supervision. He doesn't care about SW and asked the people involved not to revere it and be themselves. He freaking wrote a forensic manifesto to pitch Andor to Lucasfilm. I'm guessing Disney left him alone because the guy knows his craft.

[@notrelevant6702]

Here is a harsh quiz question: would Andor be better served if it just wasn't Star Wars but instead it's own sci-fi show? Are there actually any people left who believe Disney could learn the correct lessons from Andor or not stuff season 2 full of references and setup for more shows and audience winks? 🤔

[@maksymilianroszkowiak9839]

@@notrelevant6702 no, andor relies heavily on established lore that wouldn't be possible if it was separate from star wars

[@daniaaal]

@@notrelevant6702 Andor feels weighted precisely because we know the stakes in the OT. To me, it actually enhances the OT experience, because now I feel that Luke's entry into the Rebellion is even more significant, and that the Rebellion means so much more, knowing that it started out from pockets of ordinary people standing up against the tyranny of the Empire.

[@edwardbayfield1401]

The mandalorians in this show acted more like cosplayers than legendary space warriors.

[@huntermonroe347]

Looked like cosplayers too haha

[@thewisewolf768]

I can't get the scene out of my head where they're all just aimlessly shooting into the water. It looked so silly and nonsensical.

[@thecodfather6280]

@@huntermonroe347 I mean, they literally were.

[@filletmignon5221]

That’s the thing they ain’t getting real actors to do this shit they getting Disney land park employees and they can’t act worth a shit

[@117MasterSpartan]

@@huntermonroe347 all of them looked like student actors cosplaying. None of them “look” mandalorian.

[@existentialselkath1264]

There are so many simple changes that could have made it a lot better: - Start with the boba fett/season 2.5 episodes and cut out some filler to compensate. - Have Moff Gideon attack Nevaro rather than pirates and establish the threat instead of ignoring him until the finale. - replace the evil mirror version of the heroes trope (the stormtrooper mandalorians) with the darktroopers as they've already been established to be a lot more intimidating and are an actual unique concept. Ultimately, nothing will fix the obvious lack of an actual story they wanted to tell. It'll still feel like something churned out because it has to be, but they missed a lot of opportunities to actually care.

[@ibzdagamer]

Showing the pirates allowed room and establishing the idea that the new Republic isn't as large as the empire and that there is a large vacuum of power being left behind that is being filled by the pirates and other factions. The bobafett series would have been shite without the finale two episodes. Showing super commando troopers (the mandalorian stormtroopers) is a good idea rather then reusing the dark trooper. 1. Dark troopers are expensive and the empire is in ruins so it's difficult to make more(or another part of the fallen empire is using them for a better use then gideon) Mandalorian storm troopers where already established as there own type of soldier in the empire as shown in the rebels series. Really good for them to come back

[@ibzdagamer]

What would have been better was to mirror the final episode with an opening of the new Republic just like the empire opening of the 2nd to final episode. And reading the discovery of Gideon escaping, but instead it was never said again.

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@ibzdagamer replacing pirates with Gideons faction would have made the same point, if not emphasized the fact that the new Republic can't afford to support any unaligned planets. The boba fett series was awful anyway, and it's quality should be no concern of the mandalorians. The troopers in rebels were different as they were actual mandalorians that had defected. It was an interesting concept. These guys are just stormtroopers in beskar armour because... Reasons. They're just 'anti mandalorians' with all the same gadgets and everything. I seriously doubt fully clad beskar armour, jetpacks, mandalorian gadgets, and training, is more affordable than some Beefy droids. Clearly cost is kinda arbitrary anyway as they have cloning and large Imperial facilities so its ultimately a case of what makes the more interesting story and I don't think 'anti mandalorians' are very interesting

[@cuyospartan02]

No one can convince otherwise that the boba fett episode focused on mando was ripped apart of the original mando season and was originally the first episode of season 3. It would’ve been a satisfying ending to season 3 having grogu choose mandalorians instead of Jedi and reuniting with din

[@doge8825]

I agree that this season wasn’t handled as well as it could have been but it’s not right to say they lacked a story to tell. This season was about The Mandalorian as a whole. The story was about different factions of Mandalorians finally uniting to retake their planet. It was a very good conclusion to a decade-long arc that started all the way in the Clone Wars

[@justinstoll4955]

The sequence of that dragon coughing up the kid is all I can think about as a sort of metaphor for the entire show.

[@danzansandeev6033]

Who didn’t suffocate, drown or melted by acid in a whole ass day

[@_MaZTeR_]

@@danzansandeev6033 Well, Boba survived the Sarlacc too, but at least he got burned that he required quite a lot of Polynesian spa trips.

[@One.Zero.One101]

Season 3 is like a headless chicken running around aimlessly. If you add all the runtime devoted to the main quest, it probably adds up to 2 episodes out of the 8. The earlier seasons had side quests too but at least it ran alongside main quest. In Season 3 the main quest would just stop dead in the tracks for like 6 episodes.

[@danzansandeev6033]

@@One.Zero.One101 you know the problem is that they have that main story line. If they wanted to have an episodic show they should have done so from the beginning. And now we have half (or more) villain of the week episodes with other half trying to be main story which simply doesn’t have enough runtime for it to be good. You could have had all 8 episodes of retaking mandalore. Or all 8 episodes of mando/grogu adventure. Either would be good for me. But mixing the two simply doesn’t work

[@waywardmind]

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[@BrooksSligh]

There was so much throughout the season that just blew my mind. - The first alligator fight: what was their plan if Din hadn't shown up with a spaceship in the nick of time? They were losing people hand over fist because of their weak tactics. They didn't know he was coming so they weren't buying time or anything. - First episode being two recaps (one for people who didn't watch Book of Boba Fett & one for people who forgot the last season of Mando) wrapped around a low stakes pirate fight out of a Saturday Morning Cartoon was a weak start. - Third ep was fine but it was weird that they let Pershing, a war criminal with a parole officer, do a TED talk *ABOUT HIS WAR CRIMES* to a packed house. - I thought for sure Kane was going to be burned as she was the only person in the room with Pershing and the mind melter while the mind melter got turned up to 11 & melted his mind but apparently nobody cared? She's still walking around gainfully employed later in the season. - Timeline on the bird attack felt weird. Bird ate a kid, carried him around in its throat for several days and he's just fine on the other end? Not digested or anything? Bird babies were fine with not being fed for however long two days is on that planet? - I thought they were going to do something with the bird hatchlings but I guess they just ate them when the clans came together. - How did the Mandos get to the Land of the Lost in the first place? They needed Bo-Katan's little fighter-transport to get to Nevarro but nobody else had a ship? - The timeline on the pirate return to Nevarro felt odd. Salad the Hutt shows up in a single ship, blockades the town (which is I guess the population of the whole planet), Carl Weathers calls Teva who flies from the base to Coruscant, he gets rejected by The Ladies Man Tim Meadows, flies to go get the Mandos, convinces them to come back to Nevarro then they fly to the rescue. How many days have the pirates been in charge of the town? How long have they been hunting the townsfolk? - Carl Weathers gives the Mandos a land grant but we all know they don't want it & won't use it because they're retaking Mandalore. - The whole retaking of Mandalore felt pointless. I didn't feel like the show spent enough time letting me know what the stakes or the difficulties were. After Din established the planet wasn't toxic (just full of some weird wildlife) I couldn't understand what the obstacles were to just moving there. - There are so few people in the combined groups, is that the sum total of all the Mandos in the galaxy? Gideon seemed to think so, he kept talking about completing the purge of Mandalore once he killed them all but there doesn't seem to be much of a point of this tiny group trying to occupy an entire planet when they couldn't fill an apartment complex. - I felt sure the survivor Mandos were "The Spies" from the episode title because they led the group right into Gideon's base! Did they not know it was there? Why didn't anybody notice or remark on the lights being on or the architecture suddenly looking very Imperial? - Where was the Armorer in between leaving Mandalore with the refugees & returning with "Lady Kryze, your reinforcements have arrived"? - How did Gideon crush the Darksaber that Bo Katan was holding without injuring her hand at all? - Giancarlo is 64 years old. How was he going to train a bunch of clones of himself to use the Force in any meaningful way before they're all in their 80s? Why did he think he knew how to train them at all? How was he planning on stopping a bunch of clones of a ruthless backstabbing warlord from stabbing him in the back? - Why didn't anybody mention Viszla's sacrifice? Even when *BAPTIZING HIS SON*? - Why was Din wet in that scene? He set Grogu down then they cut back so he could ask for the kid to be upgraded to Apprentice and suddenly he's dripping. - Why didn't anybody react to the Darksaber being broken? It would have been cliche to have Gideon say "You Mandos are nothing without your trinkets" then have Bo say "I don't need trinkets, I've got FAMILY" or whatever then have a bunch of Mandos land & curbstomp him but it would have been something. - Also Gideon's "trinkets" line was so silly considering he's wearing the Mando Stomper 2000 Armor with Kung-fu Grip. - How did Gideon attend the Evil Zoom Call of Evil from Mandalore, a planet surrounded by communication blocking thunderstorms? - That Imperial's line about people welcoming back the Galactic Empire because they were tired of the rules of the New Republic made me laugh out loud. Famously not known for their rules, the Galactic Empire. Also not known for blowing up entire planets. Remember how everybody hated the Imperials for Operation Cinder from the only good episode from Season Two of Mando? - How did Axe use a jetpack to get from Gideon's underground base to orbit when the same type of jetpack couldn't muster the speed or longevity to chase a bird? - Armorer making up a rule on the spot that let Bo-Katan take her helmet off, Din handing over the Darksaber on a technicality & everybody agreeing to bump up Grogu to Apprentice on a technicality felt more Mandalawyerian than like people who really believe this Creed stuff. - I thought Din had already adopted Grogu, what was the point of the Armorer declaring them a Clan of Two? - What was the point of Grogu getting that dinner plate from the Armorer? It didn't do anything or come in handy at all. - I hate the NX-01 for long haul travel. No bed, no toilet, no food. My favorite type of ship in Star Wars is the kind of mid-range RV like the Razor Crest, Millennium Falcon, or Fondor Haulcraft. It takes days to get from planet to planet, I bet Din's butt is asleep the entire time. I'm surprised he wasn't limping when he hopped out to talk to Bo-Katan. On & on & on.

[@cabbage9999]

Excellent comment!

[@stoopidapples1596]

the only 2 i think have answers are the Zoom Call and the following New Republic line. I might be misremembering, but I think it mentions somewhere that the communication-blocking thunderstorm is actually just more imperial lies to keep the base hidden. Then for the new republic, it's pretty easy to put that down to imperial posturing, acting like everyone love the imperials, and I think it's reasonably fair to think that people would dislike the new bureaucracy of the New Republic. What it should have mentioned, however, is that those people also wish for a return to "law and order" or something like that. anyway other than that your concerns are all correct. this season sucks harder than a straw

[@Treebohr]

Gideon did crush her hand, she cries out in pain and doesn't use it for the rest of the episode. Or at least for the rest of the scene.

[@Uzarran]

That's crazy, the NX-01 is plenty big, it supports a crew of 50ish. It can only reach Warp 5, so it'll take Din a bit longer to get from point A to point B, but still.

[@BrooksSligh]

@@Uzarran Haha that's my bad, I was trying to remember the designation for the Naboo Starfighter & I accidentally substituted the dang Enterprise! I'd edit the post but I'm not a coward, I'll take my lumps.

[@OndenOndwaK]

The best season 3 review I could have hoped for. The worst part is that you managed to find even more illogical plot holes than I did :D Like the shot where Bo angrily slaps the door with her fist instead of using the darksaber. My god I though that Filoni and Favreau would protect their baby better than this! BTW my favorite plot hole you didn't mention: Paz Viszla uses the "There's too many of them, go and I'll hold them off!" trope and then he just KILLS ALL OF THE ENEMIES except 3 guys. Implicating that if the others didn't abandon him, they would have easily won the fight. But the script said he has to have a warrior death at that exact moment so yeah. 😂

[@danzansandeev6033]

Omg you’re right. At least make him die from overwhelming numbers with him blowing himself up like a last eff you. But no we gotta show those stupid guards.

[@diegoo489]

Idk he was so adamant to dying a warriors death because in his case living to fight another day could’ve been way more useful than dying there and I know he didn’t have to die because he had a jet pack and the guards did not he could’ve simply flown away but instead chose for some stupid reason to fist it out

[@danzansandeev6033]

@@diegoo489 to be fair they did show his jetpack being damaged and sparking so he couldn't fly away

[@Philipp3022]

@@danzansandeev6033 George's ATOC magic tricks at least saving this :D

[@stevebreedlove9760]

I think the purpose of Paz dying to the Imperial Guard was to add weight to din and grogu tag team. Like they are stronger as a team. But they conveyed no fear etc so it carried no weight.

[@CinematicSeriesGaming]

Season 3 was comically bad. It's like it was written by lazy temps who didn't care about anything. Nothing made sense, the show kept breaking its own rules, dialogues were terrible, the pacing was all over the place, the villain was absent from the story up until the very end, there was no conflict, no tension, no meaningful character growth, no nothing. Just 8 episodes of pure nonsense and irrelevant filler. I can only imagine how amazing this season could have been if it was written by people who made 'Andor'. We could have a very interesting conflict between Moff Gideon and the Mandalorians. We could see the tension between the Armorer's cult and Bo Katan's crew. We could see Din finally ditch his dumb religion to become his own man... But no... The writers decided to undo all of the progress, revert Din back to season 1 state, bring back Grogu (whose arc fkin ended already in Season 2) and waste time on complete BS. They had Giancarlo Esposito! An excellent actor who played Gus fkin Fring in two of the best shows of the last 15 years. And what did they do with him? Nothing. He was boring af, had zero charisma and was such a non-threat, there was literally no tension during the final confrontation with him. Such a waste!

[@aquaarietta]

You summed up all my problems perfectly. This season was boring with no stakes and very sloppy writing. It reeks of corporate directives and is unrecognizable to the creative vision it once had.

[@danejohannescaldwell7999]

*cough*kathleenkennedy*cough*

[@Eilonwy95]

Such a shame. The Mandalorian culture has so much potential. It’s a pity they could not at least show us some great action scenes

[@exomnia115]

I will disagree those final two episodes action wise were pretty great

[@Eilonwy95]

Glad you enjoyed them!

[@thewisewolf768]

@@exomnia115 Strongly disagree, but I'm glad someone enjoyed them

[@filletmignon5221]

Literally giving everyone beskar these days because they can’t choreograph a good sword fight

[@thebestoneevermade]

​@Fillet mignon to be fair they weren't just literally giving it out. The empire took control of beskar mining after the mandalore incident so its safe to say the imperial remnants have some supply of beskar

[@Capt.Jenrig]

I am still wondering why Thrawn has not made an appearance despite being somewhat teased at the end of mandalorian season 2. Or why they chose to, showcase clones of moff gideon, instead like in the comics, showing that thrawn is the one that has been pursuing clone technology and utilizing it.

[@triple-d2640]

Idk either but at least he's gonna be in The Ashoka show

[@notappletton]

Ik right; they even talked about him being alive and gidion put it off as rumors, but imagine if thrawn came in at the end, it was the perfect opportunity but they’re stupid so here we are

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Comics ? The original Thrawn trilogy were 3 books. And Filoni has no creative bone in him. God, the ignorance....

[@lucasart328]

@@yrooxrksvi7142 hes going to fuk him up

[@sjins1poolboy698]

Great summary, the last two episodes just felt so out of nowhere and unearned. Moff Gideon crying about his clones dying after he must of walked past them on the way to the hangar despite tracking Din coming towards the control room just really hurt a character that had successfully been a competent adversary to the hero the last two seasons 😪

[@edwardthompson3377]

There are two other problems with the clone scene. One is the line "You killed them before they drew their first breath." Which ... isn't how the extensive depiction of cloning has worked up to this point. Clones grow, age (sometimes faster than normal), and have to learn things like basic motor functions and combat training to be useful. Assuming internal consistency with the rest of Star Wars, those clones were already useless as replacement. If this has changed, then that whole "show Gideon's plans" could have been explaining why his clones are different ... though that still would have been a hard sell. The other problem is the cold-heartedness with which Djarin just murdered a half dozen unarmed and helpless men. He's not above killing, but I would be very surprised if that creed he goes on about would allow for that. And, to top it off, a not insignificant chunk of the audience is aware of Clone Wars and Bad Batch and know that clones aren't the same individual -- they're their own people who could have made their own choices. So that's bad plot, since we didn't know their significance until after, bad worldbuilding, since it contradicts what we know about clones without offering an explanation, and bad characterization, having a warrior with a code of honor casually kill a dozen men without context.

[@Keyatzin]

Someone has to explain to me how, in episode 6, the fact that they have a system that can take piloting control away from someone, and remotely control their ship . . .And they only use it for automatic parking??? Seriously?? How was that not used by the big evil Empire, every single time they needed to stop escaping rebels. Like, why bother with tractor beams at all, if that exists?!?! That's argueably more lore-breaking than the Holdo-Manuever.

[@mjgilbert10]

I just re-watched the original Star Wars and found myself wondering why the Death Star didn’t use its tractor beam on the X-wings 😅

[@Keyatzin]

@@mjgilbert10 cuz Obi-Wan shut it off, silly, duhh. But really, I think it's just directional. Like it only points 1 direction. Not really useful for a squad of fighters scattered around.

[@mydreaminorbit9297]

That was my thought exactly from the moment I saw it happen. Disney star wars continues to introduce galaxy breaking elements with no regard for anything that came before. They could've at least had a line where Din said "you should have update the auto pilot software" or something. I'll believe that more than a one in a million chance maneuver.

[@Keyatzin]

@@mydreaminorbit9297 Or a line for Bo, to say "I can disable their access, but maybe we should play along." Anything, other than what they gave us, where it seems like no way out of it.

[@derjona]

Also what was the reason for mando beeing captured? Gideon didn’t need him or grogu he had already achieved his goal. If it was for some type of revenge yould think he’d fulfill that revenge after mando was captured and not just leave until he freed himself again. They also had zero reason to leave him in his bulletproof armor or at least remove his helmet so that they could give him a headshot if he would try to escape. Thickest plot armor in all of Star Wars.

[@roykeeley]

I liked some of the stuff in the last episode with Mando fighting those Beskar Stormtroopers (only time in the show where he’s back to scrappy fighting instead of just following Bo), but none of it felt earned. I think the writers - which were almost exclusively Favreau and Filoni, no real guest writers like in the last 2 seasons - want to just write self contained episodes while still having it look like they’ve got some grand story to tell. You can see this same problem with Bad Batch. People put these guys on a pedestal, but I feel like they’re getting caught up in all the nerdy, Marvely bs.

[@danzansandeev6033]

Yeah now I’m getting to that point. I really liked filoni’s animated stuff, but those really work well in animation. It’s like they can’t decide what to do: do we want cohesive story line that goes through the season, or do we want episodic nature with villain of the week.

[@One.Zero.One101]

I did not like giving the Storm Troopers beskar. Neither side can hurt the other, it feels like they were shooting water pistols at each other. The bad sound effects didn't help either. The laser pistols look so nonthreatening.

[@danzansandeev6033]

@@One.Zero.One101 well not the first time that happened really (in terms of imperial troopers wearing beskar, happened in rebels).

[@lukeskywalkershand7575]

This show ruined the image of mandalorians, now instead of thinking of episode 2 Jango going toe to toe with every Jedi he encountered, hell even S1 and 2 Din. We now have mandalorians getting gunned down by storm troopers and eaten by big alligators.

[@bbarnsp856]

Hey @Master Samwise, First off, I want to express how much of a fan of your work I am. I started following you recently, and you make the kind of content I hope to make. Your takes are articulate, thoughtful, and well-reasoned. And while I may not agree with every last one, I feel like your conclusions are sound. So, yeah. The Mandalorian S3 was a huge letdown. And to be honest, I felt similarly about S2 as well, and even parts of S1. The biggest problems with this show are fundamental: Bad storytelling. The pacing, stakes, character development, plausibility, and dialogue are all lacking and feel shockingly amateurish. This season exemplified the greatest weaknesses of the show. It felt at once aimless and rushed, serious and lackadaisical. Feelings of danger and tension were all but absent. The stakes were blurry. There was hardly any central conflict. It's so frustrating, especially when it's compared with the absolutely bombastic and extremely polished storytelling of Andor. It's like comparing a fan film to a professional production. I have a hard time believing that these came from the same studio. But, oh well. At least we have Andor.

[@master_samwise]

I'm glad you have been enjoying my rambling thoughts and amateur production value! And yes, I have a lot of hope for Andor season 2. Please be good.

[@Nedmac]

Some of the stuff in the finale was really dumb, like Axe Woves FLYING FROM THE SURFACE OF MANDALORE ALL THE WAY TO SPACE or the Armorer flying around beating up armed, flying opponents with literal hammers.

[@tj3603]

Yeah, after this season it's official, Andor is the best SW TV show. I was so bored during this season, writing is all over the place, action remind me too much about kenobi show. I mean, why the hell would imperials post guards between bunch of ray-shields and than wait patiently while Mando kills them one by one in plain site? Why gideon's clone capsules had explosive glass? Why opening up the capsules triggers a bloody flood? It makes no sense! Not to mention Grogu and Mando was pushed to supporting roles in their own show. Ugh, it's Book of Boba Fett all over again. So annoying.

[@xkmuffinzx3915]

Mando steals 2 episodes from the "Boba show" (if you could even call it that) and in return Bo-Katan steals an entire Season of Mando's own show lol

[@tj3603]

@@xkmuffinzx3915 at least two episodes stolen by Mando from BoBF was cool, here we don't even have that. It's just so messy and meh.

[@christopherkelly4555]

Once I realized you had spoilers (I only made it to episode 6), I closed the tab... then reopened it cause I realized I didn't care enough to actually watch the rest of the season.

[@master_samwise]

LMAO sorry. I should put a warning in there.

[@christopherkelly4555]

@@master_samwise The title should have given it away for me, but it seems like I didn't miss much. Thanks for summing it up! Anyhow, when does Andor 2 come out again?

[@ryanbarth6691]

​@@master_samwise you should check out Darth Melvin he's so funny

[@taste_is_sweet]

Just to add something that really, really annoyed me about the last episode: Grogu is literally standing there in his mech, watching his guardian get captured, and he does nothing other than tilt his head like he's vaguely curious. It's not like the transparisteel between him and Din was Force-resistant. He could've Force-choked Gideon, shoved the troopers away, lifted them in the air like the mudhorn in the first season... But, nope. Nothing. And then when Din is trying to protect him from the pretorian guard, he only shoves them gently, like you said. But at the end, he can protect himself and two other people from an exploding spaceship. I really hate how he's only as Force-able as the plot requires at any given moment.

[@xkmuffinzx3915]

So frustrating.... Grogu trained with Luke fucking Skywalker of all people for quite some time and all he's ever done since then is force jump and skamper around like he hasn't learned a single other thing. Grogu did more with the force in Seasons 1 and 2.

[@One.Zero.One101]

The power level is so inconsistent. Grogu lifted a Rhino in Season 1 I think. In the climax of Season 3 all he did was trip some people.

[@thelastbrickbender2139]

7:25 you forgot to mention that all of said ships just disappear

[@master_samwise]

After Kenobi I've just come to accept that ships simply vanish from orbit.

[@Philipp3022]

"Impossible, perhaps the fleet is incomplete" -Bo-Kenobi

[@ArmourFarmer]

The worst thing about this episode for me was just the wasted potential. They set up a really compelling plotline for me where Din is the one to use the darksaber and he has to slowly master it over the season. Then he almost never uses it and Bo takes it instead. Each season he has a signature weapon: The rifle in season 1, the spear after the rifle is destroyed in season 2 and then he literally gets rid of the spear *so that he can wield the darksaber* and the way it's given to bo katan is sketchy at best. It was previously stated (admittedly by moff gideon) that the darksaber had to be won "in combat". Although you could argue that it makes sense as Din didn't want it anyway, it doesn't make sense from a plot standpoint. My personal favourite way for it to go would be Din cursed by the darksaber, a constant target for mandalorians, and alone as he is exiled from his own tribe. He would then have to slowly master it in order to survive and as said in the video, Din is just there. This is The Mandalorian, but the main character is Bo Katan. For some reason.

[@finleysales4957]

2:37 I have to argue with you there, Mandalore was a wasteland long before it was bombed to hell by the Empire. The whole reason they lived in domed cities was because of how bad Mandalore was outside. I don't think you can really hold that against the show.

[@anthonyrodriguez7950]

THANK YOU! I gritted my teeth and worked my way through Mando S1 & S2 in the hopes that there would be a satisfying payoff. I hate-watched Book of Boba Fett, and endured Obi Wan. I finally stopped watching Mando after S3 E5, because I just couldn't take it anymore. Your analyses made it clear I didn't miss anything. Aside from Andor, these live action SW series are such a let down. I don't have the time or energy to treat all of this like homework. And I shouldn't have to in order to follow/enjoy/appreciate them. Favreau and co. are out of their depth and it shows.

[@ragingshibe]

I can't help but feel like Gina Carano getting fired and her character subsequently being removed played a considerable part in how bad this season was. From what I've heard, she was supposed to play a bigger part in S3, but because of her getting fired, Favreau may have been put in a writing pit they ultimantly couldn't get out of, leading to the half-baked season we got.

[@Severian1]

The writing felt like they fed all the worst aspects of any Star Wars movie/show to chatgpt and then slightly edited whatever came out. Why is Din on buddy terms with R5 when we know he hates droids? What was the purpose of the Pershing story in relation to the whole show? What exactly was the central conflict of the show? Why is Disney working with incompetent writers?

[@coopfez07]

Disney buying marvel and Lucas film is possibly the worst decision the company ever made because every step of the way they have tried their best to ruin these properties with abysmal writing, bad directions, terrible special effects and they would waste millions to make a movie that looks like shit.

[@Huff-Productions]

Tbh you have a lot of good points, especially in the plot. The entire final plotline of the season doesn't happen unless the following just happens A: Gideon magically knows that because two Mandalorian clans form a alliance immediately means the race is universally united in retaking Mandalore despite having no established inside knowledge on their groups B: the Imperial Remnant immediately decides that if Mandalorians reunite it'll be followed by them hunting the remaining Imperials C: the Mandalorians don't go to the Capitol and instead a random forge Gideon just happens to be set up exactly there D: all this happens because Gideon's mando kill boner is so unexplainably strong he's being irrational and going out of his way to restart wars with the mandalorians

[@danzansandeev6033]

About C: I thought great forge was located in the city of Sundari, the capital

[@lúki-ang]

I spent the entirety of my time watching the crocodile attack in the first episode asking why the covert set up shop in a place where stuff like this apparently just happens sometimes and then still bothers to do ceremonies outside with no plan for if things go wrong, and then the show had the gall to have the same thing happen again later when the foundling gets taken by the flying thing

[@lukeskywalkershand7575]

It would’ve been so awesome to see a season of the mandalorian be about… yanno… the mandalorians… we should’ve gotten a whole season about them retaking mandalore and having the small scale guerrilla fights. Also, ditch Grogu

[@romannumeralvii4285]

It’s pretty insane how 8 years ago Star Wars was still a respected property with good books and a great animated show. And how quickly and throughly the property has been completely destroyed. Literally everything being destroyed one after another until there’s nothing left but garbage and painful mediocrity. I used to like Star Wars and looked forward to it. Now I literally just want it to stop and there to be no more content for it.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

This episode was kinda the Rise Of Skywalker of the Star Wars shows. It was so incredibly patchy, and Gideon his whole function was to be be band aid for an incoherent plot. It all feel like the writers knew what they wanted without having a plan how they wanted it. I mean Moff Gideon actually had a decent plan from a material point of view: Mandalorians have good gear, get their gear and equip Stormtroopers with it. That'll make them unstoppable right? (Forgets that it also requires skill and training to use that gear). And Oeh I think I'm much smarter than everyone else so I think I'm going to be the new Vader Palpatine. So I pretend to be helping the first order for their funding but instead use it for myself. Palpatine wants a force sensitive Clone right? Oeh I found a guy who can make that work, but instead I want that power for myself because the only difference between me and Palpatine is that he had the force right? (Forgets that just having a high midichlorian count doesn't by default make you good at the force). So to prevent the rest of the Empire from finding out, I have to make sure that Doctor Pershing is eliminated. Oh I also worked on cool robots that were nearly unstoppable, let's augment my special Darth Mando armor with that so I also have incredible strength. Okay but how will I make an entrance? Umm so the New Republic is incompetent and fails to respond to threads, so let's create an artificial thread by funding pirates to take over this backwater planet so that I can swoop in and save the day. (Forgets that that planet used to be the home of a Mandalorian cult). Oh no Bo Katan and Din Djarin want to go back to Mandalore which could potentially throw dirt in my food, so let's just bomb her house and intimidate her with a crap ton of tie Interceptors. And as soon as he had all the material needs, he just blindly assumed that he already won. And he accidentally reunited the Mandalorians and prevented Palpatine from ever creating his perfect force sensitive Clone. Gideon was a villain who did good in his attempts to do bad. Which kinda makes him an interesting villain but they really messed up with the overal execution.

[@jeremymullins1294]

The scene where Mando hands over the darksaber contains some of the worst blocking and editing I've seen in recent memory.

[@jedbex7070]

The story refused to let a man be a main character and hero (Mando just becoming useless and Bo-Karan getting the dark saber) and they will not let go of their marketing and toy cash cow (Grogu). It was successful because the higher ups weren’t ruining it by shoe horning in useless things.

[@theBlankScroll]

"You haven't earned the spectacle." Is the most concise and clear critique of the current era Star Wars I've ever heard.

[@brianalambert1192]

THANK YOU!!! I was wondering if I was crazy for thinking the season wasn't good cause I got so much hate for it whenever I'd voice my opinion. But the "And then" storytelling you described is the precise way to explain why this doesn't work. I kept making the argument that the show didn't feel like it had a goal in mind. We as the audience all wanted the Mandalorians to unite and retake their homeworld but the characters didn't make that clear that that was the main conflict until halfway through the season. This literally feels like they had 3 other shows they were working on that they just jammed into Mandalorian On a side note, I was furious that Mando got next to no character development (again, got a lot of hate for this), but then the last episode decided to act like he was the main character again. It was the exact same problem with Book of Boba Fett, where they're acting like this character went through this great change but they didn't show any of it. You know what might have been interesting? Bo and Din working on him utilizing the darksaber. Maybe talking about what it means to be a Mandalorian, what they can agree upon, what they can't. Maybe talking about what the future of the Mandalorians is, what mistakes were made in the past and how they can work from them. Maybe Bo talking about all the mistakes that she made that led to Mandalore's destruction, culminating in the reveal about her surrender to Gideon. Maybe explain how she had her chance and squandered it, and Mandalore needs a new ruler. Maybe after learning everything about this, Din makes the argument that she is still the best person to lead the people (I can't actually think of a good reason here. This excuse that she's walked both ways is flimsy as far as I'm concerned) hence why he turns over the Darksaber to her using the logic of the Mandalorian rule to his advantage (if she surrendered it to Gideon, doesn't that technically mean that he wasn't the rightful ruler? We're still in gray territory here since Palpatine should technically be the ruler after defeating Maul, meaning Vader becomes the next in line for defeating Palpatine, then either the Darksaber has no owner or Luke is the owner, this transitive property ruling kind of made everything more confusing). Maybe we get to see this loyalty develop between them, not as a romantic pairing (what's wrong with you people? She's at least 15 years older than him) but as a team

[@manleeman5212]

I think there were some decent moments of action but I wouldnt be surprised if they have as many flaws as the throne room fight that distracted me with pretty colors the first time I saw it in theaters. Paz Vizsla's fight was pretty epic. I also thought mando had some good moments, some of the red laser wall scene was really interesting.

[@master_samwise]

Oh the laser gate scene was fairly cool, to be honest. Why there were convenient gaps in the floor is beyond me but whatever. Aside from a couple of dumb moments it honestly wasn't terrible, but I was beyond feeling charitable by the time I got to analyzing it. I'm a biased human like the rest, unfortunately.

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

It’s real strange to go from Andor to The Mandalorian.

[@BingleFlimp]

That shot you had at 14:47 where you compared the first episodes of season 1 to season 3 really hit me. The first season was very well made and had so much promise.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Correction : the entirety of the Mandalorian is a waste of time. Never bought the hype since Season 1, and now I feel vindicated.

[@chilbiyito]

☝️🤓 Paz's Jetpack powered his gun so when it overheated it stopped working

[@ericwright8592]

Gideon was a suuuper weak villain in this season. Immensely weak. For all we know, he survived, and will return perennially. Another Palpatine I suppose. Can't wait.

[@ericwright8592]

It's marvel at this point. Just blah, mindless action, good guys with infinite plot armor and super simple "stop bad guys because they're bad" plots.

[@master_samwise]

Exactly. There's no tension behind "will he return" because he so obviously will. The moment they mention his fate being uncertain in episode 3 you know he escaped.

[@kalamar_from_slovakia]

The whole season had the same problem as TBOBF and Kenobi.. I just didnt care at all about what was happening. Okay it was fun to watch, but I didnt give a shit about what anyone did. I was only excited about the next episode because I knew it would be cool visuals from a universe I like, but nothing I care about.

[@craiggallagher4461]

Shows to cleanse your palette? Andor, even if you’ve already watched it. Going from Mando S3 to Amazon’s RoP is definitely not the answer..

[@zs8118]

Best critique and review of Mando season 3 👏👏 you explained all the reasons why this season felt hollow unfortunately, even though on a surface level it appeared to be moving the story forward.

[@mostfrozenburrito]

Watching this season was such a drag for me. I’m glad I’m not alone. I had no attachments to any of the characters introduced, very seldom was I ever invested in what was going on because they would just shoot themselves in the foot with it anyways. I was just so disappointed. Why can’t we have more stuff like Andor?? 😭😭

[@80sKidfromthe90s]

My head canon is Prequels, Jedi games, Andor, Rogue One, and Original Trilogy

[@LiteDnBFnatic]

You can't even say Mando is a good splice of life type of series, because the plot in each episode is never explored and the actions they take is always questionable. God bless the writers of Andor, they really do a good job of making me not want to completely dismiss this fledgling IP

[@the_competent_gamer9454]

The funny thing is, technically Bo-Katan isn't even the rightful owner of the Darksaber Darth Sidious is

[@TheTacticalRat]

Got to love the three other Mandalorian bodies disappearing when Din is surrounded by imperials in the final episode. You can see at 13:55 they fall and then at 13:59 there appears to be only one waaaay away from where they fell.

[@SimonLeicester]

Pretty much summed it up. 6 filler episodes, a couple of half decent ones at the end and a villain that misses every opportunity to kill our heroes until he dies. Reset back to beginning of season 1. Some what underwhelming would be a polite way of putting it.

[@billkendrick1]

We had been suffering through season 3, and eventually our 11 year old reminded us that he didn't ever catch the very first couple of episodes of season 1, so we let him watch. Holy crap, NIGHT AND DAY. 😖 I had wondered if it was just a case of Andor being so good (which it is*), but Mando season 3 really was just awful. We had to force ourselves to watch the last couple episodes "to get it over with". * Andor is the only Star Wars show I've gone back to rewatch, and I already hanker for a third go at season 1. 😍

[@SimonLeicester]

At least we had the excellent Picard season 3 showing how things can be turned around. Please watch and learn Star Wars creators

[@BatsBats38]

They actually did get to the high ground in season one when they saved mando wich is quite ironic

[@DarthDevorin]

No Whistling Birds in this season. Strange.

[@therealsirchewy]

To answer the question at the end I really recommend The Expanse, if you haven't watched it yet. Andor reminded me a lot of that show, and I would really be interested in what you think about it.

[@norbertsreignofterror9418]

a while ago Favreau said that they don't have an ending in mind for Mando. If there's one red flag in story telling to me at least it's people openly admitting they have no final vision or end goal they can build towards. S3 feels directionless in every way

[@rossburney8713]

To answer your question of what to watch next : Andor. Again

[@master_samwise]

I'm basically always watching Andor cause I'm putting together the next video on it. It's so good.

[@eldude1890]

@@master_samwise Same. Andor is what I picture a Star Wars novel would look like in Live-action form.

[@ArmourFarmer]

the darksaber "must be won in combat" not just taken

[@DewitNow]

The Mandalorian feels like it was adapted from a video game which makes me think: What if Jedi: Fallen Order was a show and The Mandalorian was a game?

[@noahsmith1053]

Just realized they never showed what the heck happened inbetween Grogu leaving the jedi temple to when he ended up where Din met him.

[@stoopidapples1596]

Whenever Disney know that a series will sell regardless, they half-ass it. And then when they have something new or obscure that can't guarantee clicks, they go full force into it. We have the good series which use unestablished characters previously uncared about: Andor, Rogue One, TFA, (debateably) TLJ, Mando 1&2, Then we have the shit series which use extremely well known characters that everyone loves: Kenobi, Book of Boba Tea, TLJ (debateably), Rise of Skywalker, Solo, and now Mando Sn 3. Hell, you could even potentially say the same about the prequels (easy to sell, shitty movies) and the clone wars (show about what was the least popular era of the genre at the time). From this trend, I expect Ahsoka to be perfectly average seeing as she is a somewhat popular character.

[@the_competent_gamer9454]

Well said. This season suffers from a lot, and it's unfortunate because of how good the 1st and 2nd season were. I just wish die hard Disney dickriders would just knock it off with the toxic positivity and accept that this season had no care or love behind it. It was a bland, uninspiring, rushed product wheeled out to make money because Din and Grogu are very popular characters. Also, anyone else notice the awkward cut at 8.22 during the finale? Gideon looks like a CGI character that reset to a base position lol

[@yanchoho]

People surprised Season 3 was so poorly written... like, did you not watch Season 1 and 2?? It seems so obvious to me but maybe I'm missing something. Maybe we were just blinded by the nostalgia bating, quarantine, and yoda on a stick.

[@johnnymittle]

Season 1 and 2 were great. some nice emotional character work and good action. Good western vibe. Too much revisionist history is going on. Contrarians trying to say "I knew it all along" after s3 was subpar.

[@lucasart328]

s1 was only decent s2 yeah was trash s3 was just something else

[@eduardosguilarohara333]

When you said, "It's like they expect you to be scrolling reddit and needing to be pulled back periodically" is incredibly true since I did just that (this season was way too boring)

[@Justin.Danford]

So dead on with the comment about writers thinking we’re scrolling on our phones while watching. I feel like some focus group or study is in the ear of the ear of the writers room insisting they need to adapt writing to account for and compete with phone scrolling attention loss in the modern audience. The writing is so bad. Classic “maid/butler dialogue.” I honestly couldn’t understand why everything since Mando S2 seems like they opened up the writing to unpaid interns (the glorious Andor excluded, but Andor is so clearly the product of an entirely separate production team/flow). And why did after mando S2 did the edict come down to turn mandalorians into clowns? First Boba Fett in his show, then Dinn (or is his real name Djarin…I’m confused now) going from John Wick in S1/S2, to an extra in the shiny armor (which makes him seem cowardly having all that insane protection and not doing much), and the conclave failing several times to deal with prehistoric beasts though not without half-baked attempts at trying. The final 2 episodes finally gave them agency back, but it still turned Mando into jackie chan when before he was more of a Batman/Wick. What the hell has happened over there?

[@Jamesthor]

This season was pretty much my jumping off point. Anything moving forward won’t be seen because I don’t go to the movie theaters anymore and I don’t have Disney+ anymore. Good luck, Star Wars.

[@dankdudet1127]

This is probably the worst tv show I've ever watched all the way through cuz I'm basically forced to as someone who wants to keep up on star wars because I have hope for all the good series that could potentially be built off of the mandalorian. So sad

[@tinyworldofbricks1291]

People I've met seem to have a strong tolerance for season 3. They seem happy as long as the "baby yoda" and mando playing family, and they are even thrilled with Bo Katan later joining the family as the "mommy". No one cares about the pace, monologue, character development, and consistency.

[@blythepineda9929]

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go rewatch Andor and remember what a good live action Star Wars show looks and sounds like.

[@maxmagnus3793]

The writers of this season of television deserve to be fired. I'm assuming they know how to write a lot better than what they vomited onto the screen for this one. This was minimum effort bottom of the barrel storytelling

[@mattaffix1607]

So refreshing, thank you for your video. I don't even know where to begin. I tried to like the show and not start with my negative cynicism that I have acquired due to the past disappointments in Disney Star Wars. This could have been an "easy win" for them, to show us that there is still great stories to be told and deep characters to be discovered in the universe. But they couldn't even do that. I am just so done with Star Wars and I hate to say it, but I just want to see the numbers keep going down so they will somehow somewhere have to turn this thing around. If not for anything else, just for the sake of profit, finally telling stories again that fans love to see.

[@RedRangerMN]

I rewatched my favorite show of all time, Deadwood, after this garbage just to remind myself what good writing was...more happens in any given episode of Deadwood than a whole season of a Disney show...

[@angelurena6137]

I don't get all of the SW bashing. There are very few "must see" shows out there. To me, if a show kills an hour without me switching channels, then it's probably a decent show. Everyone should stop expecting a third party (i.e. Disney) to produce art in the way the original artist intended (i.e. George Lucas). Also, you do realize this show is intended for children...right? So please stop expecting Game-of-Thrones quality from a kids show.

[@mickys8065]

And like, there's so many fixes they could've done. One, book of boba fett: if they needed to bring in Mando to make the show interesting, they shouldn't have made the show. Mando can show up to help, but don't make it a mandalorian episode. Two, agency: why does Mando care about mandalore? He goes there to have a bath, and then that's it for his motivation. Have him fail, so that's when he and Bo find the imperial base, who stop him reaching the waters. Three, Mando cult: either have them competent, or dont have them. If the cult was just vizla and the armourer, fine. But if you're going to pull a legion of them out of nowhere, make them useful. Four, nevaro: look how good and prosperous it's become. Oh, moff Gideon nuked it into nothingness because of his previous defeat there. The only survivors being the mecha suit if you need that grogu toy sales. No pirates Vs cult battle, just straight up the cult shows up too late. You can still setup how useless the new republic is, so nothing changes there. Five, getting help. Why does Mando care about getting Bo's old team back? They don't have any stakes in the original that needed their help. He'd bathed and the cult had a nice home on nevaro. In this fix, the cult showed up too late at nevaro because they somehow had no ships. (How did they land on that desert mountain planet in the first place, who knows??) No says she has a fleet, from which they can take revenge and retake mandalore from the known imperial base. Six, beskar: the imperials try to make beskar items, but lack the skill and knowledge of the mandalorians, so all they manage is clunky shields, which look like raw metals.

[@Jackson-ie4hl]

They did show his jet pack broken and it powers his gun, so that is one thing that actually made sense

[@derjona]

How is mando fireproof? I know he has armor which covers 80% of him but he wears a goddamn cape which after beeing engulfed in flames is still unharmed. Just like his neck his wrist his gloves. He could at least get hot…

[@dancingvalkyrie]

The Mandalorian was always mediocre but I'm somewhat glad season 3 exacerbated its problems. People will soon look at season 1 and 2 harder and realize it suffers from the same issues as season 3. Here's to Andor season 2 sparking some life into the franchise again.

[@sword_racer185]

honestly andor isnt really much better

[@radioactivephil6888]

@@sword_racer185 explain.

[@sword_racer185]

@radioactive phil no, no i don't think I will

[@dancingvalkyrie]

@@sword_racer185 Smooth brain detected. Opinion ignored 😴

[@radioactivephil6888]

@@sword_racer185 tik tok attention span who wants action scenes every few seconds right? someone who dislikes well written dialogue, monologue, characters, character arcs and so on right? :o

[@McEwanMaster]

Totally agree with the poor cause and effect in the show's storytelling. So many details, big or small, had just no logical continuity or consistency. I was also so disappointed by how much potential the show had that was never fulfilled. It can be valuable to take a step away from the main plot and explore an adjacent subject like the New Republic and its inner workings (something Andor did beautifully with the ISB/Senate), but like you said, it proved completely irrelevant. Taking the time and effort to treat the retaking of Mandalore as a important galactic event, perhaps across another season to let events and character developments breathe, would have given the arc a much better pacing, continuity, and payoff. More broadly, it would have been the perfect opportunity to explore the New Republic's politics, leaders, and challenges (something Disney has given almost no thought to so far) through their negotiation of a politically complex, flashpoint conflict on their struggling borders. Considerable story infrastructure about the New Republic was already in place over the show's three seasons, but the show didn't use it for any meaningful purpose because it placed the struggle for Mandalore in an absolute vacuum, a minuscule event between maybe a couple hundred people that took no more than a few days, and that had zero apparent effect on the galaxy around it. TLDR: Scale, stakes, and cohesion with the rest of the Star Wars universe were almost entirely missing from this season.

[@demilung]

I gave up after Season 2. The thing that made me give up specifically was the whole battle where Boba Fett joins and Grogu gets kidnapped. Remember how first season took a step back in scale and showed Stormtroopers and such being a real threat to people? How in the final episode the heroes were held in the building by a threat of a blaster turret set up against the building? Yeah, Stormtroopers are a joke again, and a same or similar turret is set up, misses a whole volley on a character running and then gets taken out. That's when I realized that the writers and runners of the show either misunderstood what made the show good, or just gave up trying (or were pressured by their overlords). Cherry on top was the final assault where Cara's blaster stops working so she just grips it like a club and keeps going forwards to bash people with it - you know, an unarmored person rushing to bash people with guns.

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

THANK YOU. I have no idea why people have been saying they enjoyed the finale. I thought it was completely pointless. Predictable when it wasn't being completely disjointed.

[@Will_Parker]

A friend of mine said he thought the season was good. I then asked him how those Mandalorians got to that desert planet. He said "by spaceship I guess." I asked him if that were the case how come Bo Katan and Din had the only ships? And how did they expect to relocate like they said they would? He was stunned that he didn't think about that and he just went "that's right, why would they write it like that?"

[@Jasonwolf1495]

Hot take the exact problem of this series is trying to have a plot. The solution is Mando and Grogu should literally be adventure of the week bounty hunters with the through line being "hey lets explore mandolorian culture and religion while having a nice father son story in the outer rim". They keep trying to tell too many connected major world affecting stories, Not everything needs to be affecting the entire universe. Just have Mando be mando!

[@odinwarlock2436]

Finally a mando reviewer who is respectful and isnt insane.

[@BanthaPoodoo94]

We need a supercut of Mando S3 and Book of Boba into one great. Non-filler, well structured actual season 😢

[@christopherragon]

I stopped watching after episode 2, though I am aware of what happens this season (nothing). I just couldn't do it. I absolutely loved the first 2 seasons. They were not without their flaws either, but I could tell early on that whatever good things the first 2 seasons had going was not present in season 3. Grogu should either have not been in the season, or the focus should have been getting back together after a significant time apart. I also think the Pershing stuff could have worked if it was weaved into the plot throughout the season as a way to explain the way out of left field clone thing that showed up at the very end. It would have given some weight to the reveal. All that to say, SHOW DON'T TELL!!!! Zero subtext and zero faith in the audience to figure a single thing out on their own. What a sad and fast decline this show experienced, but after BoBF, I cannot say I am surprised by this

[@akispag1519]

i really want someone to put the writers to see this video and then ask them to say their real thoughts..OR SOMETHING..

[@ZognarBipps1]

thank you so much for making this. I've been waiting for someone to call out all of s3 bs

[@w_out7631]

After S3 I rewatched Andor to wash and clean out my eyes and ears

[@owieczkacs]

Remember when in season 1 every bounty hunter used tracking device that seemingly worked on universe distance to detect the target and point you his way? Yeah that was soo stupidly overpowered, soo strong they decided to forget about it immediately so the Imperial Forces didn't find Grogu next day. In season 1 things happened because plot demanded it, Mando and Grogu walking in cave and out of nowhere people attacked them? I was soo taken out of immersion back then, i spoke with my friend and he was praising season 1 while i was not impressed at all. Something already back then didn't work for me.

[@Jari_Leandertaler]

Jeez why is every season, show or movie getting bashed by some KZbinr. Wel I liked the how....

[@markopusic8258]

I've finally gotten around and watched Andor. And I must say, even if it had its issues, super slow paced, some contrivances here and there. There is only one part of that entire show I would dare to call a waste of time, the flashbacks of Cassian's childhood. Other than that it was such a refreshing Star Wars experience, much more than this bummer of a Mando season 3 is.

[@parkaller7959]

This is fax.

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

I imagine a version of this story where they try with only the cult to take mandelore, stumble upon the imperial base, and take a big L as episode 3 and 4. Then have to rally allies and lost brothers to retake their home. Maybe a remaining jedi, like Kal, ends up helping out. Maybe the empire finds their hideout and assaults them along the way.

[@Mabra51]

"He was giving his clones the force" That's not how the force works!

[@mattchooblink]

Every comment: personal gripe with mando season 3 and disney sw overall, ending with “at least we have Andor.” And I completely agree. The live action shows are very meh, but have a few incredible moments. Kenobi had the Vader/ Obi-Wan interaction, BOBF had the mando episodes, and season 3 had the Kelleran Beq sequence. Such a shame, I was hoping Mando would stay awesome. Reminds me of the last season of Game of Thrones, not nearly as bad but similar situations. Oh well on to the next one

[@YoshiTheWise]

I got far more enjoyment from watching my kids eat than this show

[@shannonpotratz489]

What's worse, this show directly followed the brilliantly written Andor series, which just makes it look even more juvenile. Honestly, after they completely discarded the entire point of the Season 2 arc in two episodes of Book of Boba Fett, I didn't have high hopes for Mando S3. Now having watched it, I found myself scratching my head as to why they felt it so necessary to bring Grogu back so quickly. The character (I use that term lightly) served virtually no purpose this entire season. So why did they abandon the most compelling part of Din's development as a character following the Season 2 finale? Even worse, they didn't even acknowledge any of that in Season 3!! This was all sloppy, lazy, pointless storytelling that does nothing to excite me for a Season 4...

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Me? I'm gonna go watch Andor and look for details I missed the first watch through.