The Manga That Betrayed Us All

[@alienjay]

I actually read this series in middle school, because the first part was available in my public library. the first volume of the second part was available, but none of the others were. I'm starting to realize that might've been deliberate.

[@zoeb3573]

Whoever had made all the others publicly available was reading along and knew the tea. They saved you.

[@infoniwceniocwdhvredidhave8126]

Based librarian

[@swisslord2478]

I read every volume in the public library of Geneva when I was little. It's in the kid section.

[@swisslord2478]

Or that someone borrowed them

[@UserOfTheName]

@@infoniwceniocwdhvredidhave8126 No such thing as an un based librarian

[@Paprikablues]

I was huffing the copium too, when I started to see Rin’s feelings I was like “oh this half is about Rin going through puberty and struggling with who daikichi is to her as both a father figure and someone she does not see as her dad, with hormones making things worse” then the manga laughed in my face and drop kicked me

[@pdp6839]

Usagi Drop Kick

[@PichuElric]

@@pdp6839 And best reply goes to-

[@TREVORVADER]

@@pdp6839 sounds like a fighting game move

[@olgagaming5544]

The main character has daddy issue like me ... xd

[@noodles.dumplings.kimchi2878]

Same. I was hoping that even if she doesn’t end up with Kouki - Rin would bravely go out in the world to try find something she was passionate about, but truly wanted be a mother at the end of the day. Then come home to Daikichi with a family in tow for New Years. With familial heart to heart about how she too would be a great parent because she had a great role model. Then during that New Year’s Daikichi reconnects with Yukari in her second divorce where she realized all along her heart always lay with Daikichi. This shit literally writes itself.

[@Rannos22]

It's kinda funny that the usagi drop anime is what got me to not be afraid to one day be a dad and then the manga made it impossible for me to admit that openly lmao

[@Lowart]

oh noooooo

[@Rannos22]

@@Lowart fortunately I'm so desensitized to Japanese weirdness that it didn't even bother me, it was just one of many "welp, can't recommend this show" moments

[@stovespiegel]

@@Rannos22 I think the show is totally fine to recommend with the asterisk that the manga goes into fucked up territory

[@thomas5585]

Raise your own waifu bro

[@Neimaj]

@@Rannos22 I'm definitely with you. It didn't really bother me that much and I've seen far weirder out of Japan. It's whatever.

[@gooburr411]

BRO I THOUGHT THE KID WAS GONNA DIE *HOW DID IT MANAGE TO BE WORSE*

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

I thought the kid was going to be evil

[@queenofcats9240]

Same here! My bf recommended the anime to me, but before I watched any episodes, he said “Under no circumstances should you read the manga! The ending is horrible and everyone hates it! Don’t look it up! Don’t watch videos about it! Just watch the anime and that’s it” When he said that, I thought one of two endings. I thought “Okay, either the dad and the daughter get together in the end, or one of them dies in a horrific accident” he sounded more disgusted than sad when he said that so I figured it was the first one I thought. I ended up not listening to him and just looked up how it ended and yup, I was right 💀 I still watched and enjoyed the anime though

[@Chaossage]

SAME! THIS IS NOT THE PLOT TWIST I EXPECTED! WTF!

[@deadneko9178]

Surprised that nobody asked. How death can be less horrible ending? What we have is a bad ofcourse but not as death though.

[@gooburr411]

@@deadneko9178 Because this is fiction, and the kid dying is sad but understandable why it would be written (grief is an interesting subject to explore), but what ACTUALLY HAPPENED is *FUCKED UP* for the author to have written.

[@DustinBarlow8P]

Damn this hits me personally. I am 35 and when I was 28 I decided I didn't want kids, and I was ok just being a bachelor till i died. Well when I turned 30 my estranged sister, died in a car wreck and her oxycontin addicted baby daddy didn't want anything to do with the girl he had with her. My parents are also gone, so if it wasn't me she would be going to an orphanage, or some group home. So I got full custody of her, and it was one hell of a shock for me. It was pretty rough, and I was unsure of it, until once she broke a glass, which I didn't care about, it was a cheap glass, but she hid after she did it. After I found her, she broke down into a sob, and started begging to not send her away. She basically knew that nobody wanted her, and she truly thought she was trash to be thrown out if she did something wrong, well that did me in, and I started crying along with her. Now I don't cry, I played football, and was a soldier for many years and I have a high pain threshold but that moment was a spear straight into my heart. It was a struggle getting her self esteem built up, but we did it. Anyway, she is now 14 and I had to beg one of my female employees into taking her underwear shopping. Other than that we are doing pretty good. Just us two against the world.

[@Phhase]

o7 .

[@Amayram21]

It’s currently 12 am and I’m crying 😭 this is a beautiful story I wish you and your daughter well

[@ChilledBacon]

@@Amayram21 I see KZbin did the funny and you pressed send one too many times

[@pit2992]

@@ChilledBacon I think it was actually 12 and he was crying. Just a bet tho.

[@ChilledBacon]

@@pit2992 just a hunch i presume

[@devilkitten8783]

When you said there was a time skip and that the main guy HADN'T gotten with the other single mom my heart dropped. I KNEW what the ending was.

[@osheridan]

I could feel the moment my breathing stopped

[@skookiecat_29]

I’m sorry that you had to go through this, if you want a good manga go read Pandora Hearts, it’s amazing and won’t betray you like this one

[@4pa14_reihannullahbudiyatn8]

yup me too... my friend said it is a good slice of life anime story, but he warns me if you don't want to disappoint, please don't read the manga. i said in my hearth that it is good anime what the reason i must disappoint about this, i want to know more about the story and i read it, i think it will be sad moment or some stuff like his Daikichi mom and father die, or Daikichi sister get pregnant etc, and yup my friends was right i fucking hearth breaking read the manga to the end.......

[@snakewithamic7186]

Okay I read this before the video and I am begging god you don't mean what I think you mean

[@hollowman9410]

I hate when they do things like this, anime and manga tropes are the worst.

[@gypruzzcaccamo6586]

I will ALWAYS remember a fan letter directed to the mangaka herself from a real father-daughter duo who were fans of this series. Their distraught, betrayed reaction, particularly from the father, felt really heavy and disgusted and hearbroken, I could FEEL it just by READING it.

[@angelsoflolz]

Wait, whose reaction? The mangaka's reaction at the pair (in which case they're romantically together?), or father-daughter (normal) feeling disgusted by this potential happening being portrayed in the mangaka's manga?

[@whatever6455]

@@angelsoflolzread again. The letter was sent by the fans, so obviously it’s the fans’ reactions.

[@ennieminymoo6675]

How the turntables

[@serogaiusufir9615]

do you know where i can find this letter ?

[@dappy8116]

Ok since you remember the fan letter you NEED to tell us where we can find it and read it ourselves.

[@olslimy6428]

I like that when After the Rain came out, everyone thought it was "gonna do an Usagi Drop on us!" but then the mature adult manager was like "nah, kid. I'm waaaay too old for you and what you're feeling is just a temporary infatuation blahblahblah". I've never been more relieved and touched by that sorta story at the same time lmao.

[@HinamizawaMYTH]

Wait, that was actually why I never got very far into that series. I am so glad I read your comment 😭

[@olslimy6428]

@@HinamizawaMYTH definitely worth finishing, since it never even dared to touch the subject with a... "creepy" sorta approach. It was mature enough to just say "these are lonely and problematic people, but their circumstances doesn't simply justify romance - which the characters understand."

[@savanadelanore]

It was so clear to me it never does. I have a good feeling for those things.

[@antares_the]

That was a great one

[@thephantom9080]

Even the relationship if happened is way more tolerable than usagi drop’s horror. In usagi drop they are a father and his adopted daughter, in after the rain the guy is just way older than her and she is a high schooler. Still creepy if happened but not to the same mentally damaging horror of usagi drop.

[@Quinn2win]

Considering that people will say "Be careful, I hear this series pulls an Usagi Drop", one could say that Usagi drop's purpose is literally to serve as a warning to others.

[@C4H10N4O2]

It's the literal "... and then they fucked" ending

[@swisslord2478]

​@@C4H10N4O2 Let's thank the gods of manga that it wasn't an ecchi/ero manga

[@duvipearson6251]

A DOOKIE DROP

[@abrahamlupis9354]

@@swisslord2478 would still work

[@worminaround]

​@@swisslord2478thank god it was just a mature manga, and not literal hentai.

[@EYYYYYJustin]

So THAT is what people mean when they say "please dont Usagi drop us" when a new found family series shows up.

[@mr.protagonist5639]

Yep. That's exactly what we mean

[@clarehidalgo]

My friend explained it to me in High school because he didn't want me to experience the same betrayal he had because of Usagi Drop

[@silverhawkscape2677]

@@mr.protagonist5639 So how many DO end up the Usagi drop route?

[@seedh1674]

@@silverhawkscape2677 ever heard of 'If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord'?

[@silverhawkscape2677]

@@seedh1674 I didn't continue it and it seemed wholesome....:(

[@norasyikinali6283]

I heard rumors that the anime studio deliberately chose to animate only the first part of the series because they don't like the second part. And at this point in time, no one will be asking any studios to animate Usagi Drop's full manga.

[@joshuajefferson3504]

I hope a studio animates the second half.

[@sprectra4344]

@@joshuajefferson3504 🗿

[@theninjabird9510]

@@joshuajefferson3504 🗿

[@ZeroX7649]

@@joshuajefferson3504 No. And I'm a shitposter beyond most shitposters.

[@mask938]

They made the right call.

[@GinsuSher]

As someone with an adopted daughter when I read this, the ending made me fucking sick to my core.

[@ShepardCommander]

To be honest when I read comments like these (and please don't take it personally, my goal is just to provide a perspective on what people like me think, it's not an accusation) I always think the adopted parent as done some something wrong or is hiding something. Personally I feel if someone had nothing to hide or fear, they would simply take the story at face value, which isn't really that shocking or upsetting considering it is a story where the man was a true father and not a groomer. While I can understand how this story could shock or enter into grooming conversation territory, we do get (almost, besides the timeskip) the full story. There is no grooming going on in this manga, so I would have to put myself in the characters shoes (using this little thing we call empathy) for both and try to imagine if I had these feeling, how would I act and why. Sometimes we have these preconceived notions that we limit ourselves to think without regarding others feelings on the matter. This is one of those stories that pushes these limits beyond comfort, and if you are uncomfortable then that is totally normal. If it's about consanguinity, the story breaks that explicitly. Power dynamics? We are told the story from both characters perspectives, we see them not abusing their power dynamics in any situation, so we can cross that out. So what is the thing holding people back from this type of romance, I wonder?

[@GinsuSher]

@@ShepardCommander so basically you believe the author and don't mind the ending because it's "fine"?

[@ShepardCommander]

@@GinsuSher Read what I wrote.

[@looniemoonie5955]

@@ShepardCommander "okay hear me out, I am not a ped0, BUT..." this is how you sound like trying to defend this garbage of a writing and going even further, accusing OTHER people in having some "bad" thoughts?... Wtf is wrong with you... like, seriously, you sound like a complete psychopath, guessing "other have something to hide" while adressing someone being uncomfortable while reading that. You are literally given a full story, where A MIDDLE AGE MAN adopts A LITTLE GIRL who later becomes HIS WIFE. In fact, it's HER decision and the guy just goes along with it. Now do me a favor, reverse the genders. Is this still cute? No. Spoiler: never was in the first place...

[@GinsuSher]

@@ShepardCommander I did. and despite your "disclaimer", I still think you are wrong. I did not say he was a groomer, you did that. The mere fact that Daikichi even entertains the notion of "going" out with his adopted child is still disgusting. Wonder all you want. You thinking Daikichi actions "might" be acceptable makes me concerned for all the girls within your vicinity.

[@Number1Rival]

So this manga can be summed up as "they had us in the first half, not gonna lie."

[@alialluaibi3008]

The rightest way to describe it !

[@ar8590]

Yup like holy shit wtf

[@xxXXRAPXXxx]

Donno man second half looks like a good payoff. Adopt a little girl and get a wife (in the future). Seems like a good life.

[@alialluaibi3008]

@@xxXXRAPXXxx In Alabama maybe !

[@xxXXRAPXXxx]

@@alialluaibi3008 Aren't we all living in the Alabama dimension really?

[@dewybmt]

You know, there was this manga of a boy who was attracted to his own mother that I remember seeing once. He had obsessive thoughts about her at times, even. Yet, in that story? He is pretty upset about having that irrational attraction and the story actually delved into the psychology of why he felt so obsessed in that way. It ended with him growing past those thoughts and learning to actually love her as a parent, finding someone his own age to date and grow up with instead. It was a trippy but interesting and surprisingly wholesome experience that held the misleading tagline "Boy is in love with his mother". It had taboo, uncomfy topics that were resolved to instead be a sort of case study about relationships and how people view one another. In a better world, Usagi drop could have been like that as well; Exploring the confused and easily-influenced feelings of a young woman growing up with someone who basically walked miles over hot coals to take care of her. Of those thoughts and feelings that are invasive but controlling and the way that they could be overcome by parental responsibility and the discovery of a growing woman's identity. But this is our reality and we got this, instead.

[@MoonMixer939]

Someone should remake part 2 of this, either with this story line or the alternative one suggested in the video where the romance happens between Rin and Koki and between both their parents respectively. Or literally anything else other than the original

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

You mean the video from hazel

[@vltraviolence7640]

This was the same one who made mystery girlfriend x. The writer is a woman. Shit was an amazing read.

[@raikouija663]

What’s the name of this manga you’re talking about?

[@GIoNARKIVE]

@@vltraviolence7640Ueshiba Riichi is a man in his 50's actually lmao

[@sudopuff8549]

Literally just binged the entire anime today, because I was feeling depressed and wanted something wholesome to cheer me up. Watched it and loved it, so I went to YT to see what other people thought of it... and here we are. What a manipulative gut punch to put readers through this mess.

[@PichuElric]

Lmao i know right!! I watched it and was hungry for more content so as usual after I watch anime I searched the manga. Woo boy...

[@meh.96]

There is a reason the anime ended where it end. And for once, anime > manga.

[@strenifstrecs2551]

oof. That's rough buddy.

[@kaylab.7661]

Yep that’s why I always tell people to only watch the anime but to never read the manga on this one

[@PichuElric]

@@kaylab.7661 Just telling them to not read the manga might encourage them to check it out agshdjd

[@tangjuice6818]

That why I liked Buddy Daddies so much. The ending was "hey lmao we raised this child properly"

[@1.0xY.m0r0n]

Such. A. Great. Series.

[@Glitchedsquirtle]

Amazing series

[@hafirenggayuda]

Also I like both dad are really best buddies, not romantic partner.

[@angelicaph483]

From being chaotic hitmans to wholesome and proud fathers. Damn I love that series so much

[@Alexis-vv5bk]

Honestly? Same. I may be a cave dwelling fujoshi but I really do prefer them as friends who are raising a kid together. This is a real life family dynamic that I wish was explored more. In an interview, the studio talked about how the were gonna make the dads more like a "mom and dad coded couple" but decided not to. So glad they went the route they did. Much richer characters, better story, and shows a real type of family that doesn't get represented enough. Buddy Daddies rocks.

[@VoidWalkerOblivion]

You have no idea *how much* I hoped the story was just trying to use Rin's crush as another way of exploring an aspect of adopting an older child; letting us see her confusion, grow to really understand the different types of love there are, and move on for her to end of dating someone else. Someone where the reader can see similarities to Daikichi, but Rin tells us about all the ways their different and she liked him for that.

[@hamingnu6610]

Exactly, oh my god! When I first heard of this ending that was exactly what I thought. It could've been a very interesting premise to deal with the more obtuse things that are only relevant once you start having a character who's not a little kid anymore. Adolescents go through all these kinds of emotions, and an adolescent in a unique situation like hers ought to display certain moments or phases that are going to be interesting to see from an outsider's perspective. That premise of her developing feelings for Daikichi could've been another very immersive part of the story, because she'd learn how to deal with those feelings, she'd learn how to express her love for Daikichi in a more significant but still mature manner, and she'd be once again better set for the next parts of her life - thanks to Daikichi. But then to have Daikichi just 'accept' what's effectively a proposal from a kid he knows has had a rough time is either A. the most batshit crazy 'lazy' ending ever made, or B. a really really sad missed opportunity to continue the story forward and to allow us to see another dimension to their relationship as father-and-daughter, and to see Rin as a more central character as she explores more of her unique feelings as she becomes a developed individual and adult. It could've been like the transition from Denji to Asa in Chainsaw Man where Asa starts to take on the role of the main character - giving us more dimensions by which to see their world by, and so that we could start discovering who Rin becomes. Unfortunately they kept the horndog part of CSM instead.

[@Plsrateeight]

​@@hamingnu6610I like how the author trolled you cry babies

[@hamingnu6610]

@@Plsrateeight Honestly, the only alternative there is might be to write fanfiction of this thing, except for the first time in forever, the fanfiction will be more wholesome than the source material.

[@Plsrateeight]

@@hamingnu6610 The creator did it just to troll people from what I remember reading, what a damn legend if true.

[@edropesan]

​@@Plsrateeighti dont rlly care all that much about this slice of life shit but idk how it makes him a legend to ruin his name by fucking up his work lol also bro could of rlly just said that to cope ngl "yeah i wrote this hot ass not cause it was my fetish but i was just trollin"

[@whenisdinner2137]

What's actually unbelievable is that the entire rest of the world of this series gaslit Daikichi into thinking it was okay when he clearly didn't want to initially

[@johans3164]

THANK GOD we didnt live in the world where the author of usagi drop becomes our creator

[@whenisdinner2137]

@@johans3164 for real...

[@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135]

thats fucked oh hell no nigga am out gross no cap

[@liamjm9278]

@@johans3164 Hope you're not christian then considering Lot get's raped by his daughters which God thinks is fine. Among other things.

[@asandax6]

@@johans3164 There wouldn't be a problem if she made it the world that way. Just because our world has different rules which are based on current popular belief does not mean every other world will be subject to them. Now excuse me while I try to forget the manga of this series does not exist. The story ended when the anime ended.

[@PokeNarutard]

The gross foreshadowing of the grandpa father with the young mother. It was right there since the beginning

[@Otoshi_Gami]

and people never saw it coming from that as a foreshadowing.

[@PokeNarutard]

@@Otoshi_Gami when i first watched it i was like huh thats an uncomfortable fact but at least the old man is dead so i dont have to see more of that. Little did small pea brained me knew that was foreshadowing

[@badluckrabbit]

OH SHIT HOW DID I MISS THAT

[@jonan101]

omgg i toltally forgot about that

[@DrizzingSakuras]

OMG AND THATS WHY SHE WAS OK WITH RINS FEELINGS TOWARDS DAIKICHI EUGHHH

[@cryptid6279]

the moment you said "ten year time skip" and "daikichi and yukari still arent together" i immediately was like "i have read enough manga and webtoon to know exactly where this is going.

[@zoeb3573]

it's very unfortunate that this has happened enough times by now that some people just know what to expect

[@mandao8492]

Yo wtf????? This kind of shit happens THAT often in manga and manhwa????

[@Karnassix]

Dude. It happens so often one might simply imply this kind of turn of events every time single father with a daughter situation is taking place

[@go-at7783]

@@mandao8492when you read a lot of stories you can just kinda tell, even if you haven’t read alot of those type of stories before

[@LauraVanessaEscobarSalazar]

@@go-at7783it’s kinda insane how often this happens in the industry that even those that haven’t consumed so many of these type of stories can tell when that turn of events is gonna happen

[@wren4741]

They literally could have had her like him as an attachment disorder porblem and had daikichi gently navigate the manifestations of her attachement trauma as she forms identity adolescence

[@Canadadiasis]

This sounds like the interesting second arc from an alternate universe that we should’ve gotten

[@PichuElric]

@@Canadadiasis proof that this is the worst timeline

[@tincabiancaioana4154]

@@PichuElric This is the moment when we need a B world just like in Steins Gate

[@dumbassdude8372]

@@Canadadiasis Its made in japan ofcourse something would be weird about it.

[@figshwg]

@@dumbassdude8372 fam has war trauma

[@omgjlmiub]

That's wild. I remember Usagi drop was everywhere when I was a kid. Literally everyone recommended it and talked about it nonstop. Every time i looked for a new manga this would always be on the top ten list. One day, everyone freaked out all at once, and then silence ever since. Wild stuff. This 100% could've been a modern classic from praise it got back in the day.

[@chrisheartman9263]

Probably because they were talking about the anime. It's adaptation was pretty fucking popular. (I was there too and I have heard about the anime, not the manga)

[@internetjerk2839]

Like thousands of voices cried out in terror and were silenced....

[@strawnut6652]

Damn, what a major catastrophe this manga made.

[@jordinagel1184]

@@internetjerk2839now you’ve made me imagine Alderaan as the innocence and wholesomeness of Usagi Drop, the Death Star/Tarkin as the author and the laser as “Dad x adopted daughter”…

[@ingvarsuigin609]

Just like Game Of Thrones, I would say.

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

All because of Usagi Drop, I will always have a tinge of fear in the pits of my soul every time a new "reluctant man adopts a little girl" anime/manga is released...

[@echidnanation8239]

Hope Spy x Family cured that

[@tmr3volver]

hopefully it will serve as a benchmark for all future authors of what not to do

[@TahmidA150]

Oh even higehiro did something along those lines now didnt it now that I realise sigh...

[@acanimatics906]

I'm reading Witch hat atelier right now and this young man in his twenties lives in a small cottage in the middle of the woods alone with 4 preteen girls who he's supposed to train in magic. Anyway the government ordered someone to be by his side to report back to them any mistreatment etc and they send another MAN! So now two young men are living in a small cottage in the middle of the woods with 4 preteen girls. Which sounds creepy right? But the thing is they act like such dads not at all what you'd expect from all those isekai or other manga you've read. It's fantastic! The series is honestly so nice so far. Qifrey is best dad, he's what the "Bruce Wayne is a good dad" tag people on ao3 want Bruce Wayne to be. I love him so much. He's like if Gojo Satoru from Jujutsu kaisen had a bit of Silvermist from Tinkerbell in him and studied child psych and gentle parenting in his spare time. This got long but whatever Witch hat atelier is super cute and also the only truly childfriendly manga I know? So far! I'm threebooks in. It's not like Naruto or other anime which are made for kids but still have sexual jokes or scenes. Which isn't bad or anything it just makes it harder to recommend them to any kids who want to know from an older cousin, friend etc what shows or books they should watch. For now I mostly just say sailor moon, card captor, ghibli etc if any kids asks but now I can actually buy them a volume of a newer manga. Anyways point is check out the series if you want to read about single dad wizard and his troublemaker students.

[@jeremiahperryman948]

@@TahmidA150 at least with higehiro not only was it left open ended not only did the hero only raise her for just the last two years of her childhood he also had her return home and have her family finish raising her first before the aforementioned open ending so even though higehiro is somewhat cringeworthy it's still far better than usagi drop in many ways!!!

[@andreitaker3527]

This Manga didn't just betray it's reader, it also put asterisk on every child raising stories that is not completed.

[@Rhyrhyyyyyylie]

@@abrahamlupis9354W H A T

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

@@abrahamlupis9354….👁️👄👁️ ?

[@byron29899999]

@@abrahamlupis9354 pedo

[@paulforder591]

Usagi wants to marry her adoptive father? That's incestuous, not to mention pathological by Western standards. She should have tied the knot with her boyfriend. 😝😬

[@nakjiducbabmasiser7170]

​@paulforder591 even in eastern pathological standards it's weird. This is just Japan thing

[@changednamelit]

It sucks that the first part is one of the best found family tropes out there. It told a great story, showing off all the struggles of suddenly having a child. Rin was refreshing, she was different from all the other children characters out there. She wasn't just there for cute overwhelmingly positive kid, she had real thought put behind her.

[@alanmonteros6432]

For real, there aren't a lot of manga that actually show kids acting like kids, they always have the maturity of someone 10 years older or more

[@soulangela7154]

It was so well thought out, and I cried a little because I was happy to finally see a daughter-father relationship presented so well, especially an adoptive one. It reminded me of a lot of times with my own parents and it made me happy. I enjoyed the anime a lot and I kept reading comments hinting at something horrible happening in the manga. It definitely spoiled those enjoyable moments as well. Like this was in the back of your mind when writing this about a daughter? that's so fucked up and disgusting

[@genericname2747]

I wish I could write psychological horror as mentally damaging as this manga.

[@melodicdumpster]

​​@@illpunchyouintheface9094 that's not psychological horror, like this manga you need to set a journey through little challenges giving the readers a sense of growing and realization along the characters. Just to take everything away in the end in the most tragic and grotesque way possible, not exactly making all the characters suffer, but the one who turns the page Edit: I forgot about one of my favorite parts, giving the readers little hints about something big, something terribly offsetting that is taking place since the start, nothing too obvious

[@mortarion9813]

Amen to that, except I also want some eldritch horror tossed in.

[@isabella8363]

FRR

[@azahel542]

@@melodicdumpster you're just describing Attack on Titan

[@carolinecheney]

same, but not as disgusting as this one. Unfortunately, there's fanfictions out there like this manga where the main character falls in love with an adult character MC (Main Character) has known since they (MC) were a child. Believe me, I've read a few based around FNAF🤮

[@EchoEssen]

Usagi Drop is the reason I have trust issues with father-daughter storylines. the 10yr timeskip was such a slap to the face. And like you said it really got into parenting. It is so weird how often I find a forum bringing up Usagi Drop (mainly mangas or novels about father-daughter stories) and there will be one person who is like "I loved it! i saw it coming the whole time Rin was a real mature kid and never saw Daikichi as her father so it's ok" and I just think about the bed wetting storyline and the shared bathing, the buying children school supplies, clothes, undies, setting up playdates with other children, all the sacrifices Daikichi made as a legal guardian for what was best for Rin and I think THE WHOLE TIME!!! It just so infuriating. Its just grooming. I just spent so much time reading a story about a man who fell in love with his daughter (blood or not) He immediately married her out of highschool! She doesn't even need to move into his house since she has been living with him since she was 6! Are their kids going to look back at old photo albums and ask why they are no photos of grandpa and Rin will be like "Oh Grandpa died when I was 6 your dad raised me!" Is Daikichi going to bring up remembering their mom every time some paternal moment happens since that was the beginning of his relationship with Rin? "You lost your tooth...oh I remember collecting your mother's baby teeth" "oh you wet the bed! I remember cleaning up after your mother after her accidents when she was young!" "I remember when your mom was a too cool kid to hug me when she was a grade-schooler" Like there are age gap romances and then there is just -I was the legal guardian of my spouse.

[@andreaisnthere]

idk if you're already watching or reading it since it's really popular, but you can trust spy family's father daughter relationship. that one is safe :)))

[@EchoEssen]

@@andreaisnthere I caught a really great rec for SpyXFamily that promised it was cute found family story and I am so glad I did for it's like one of my favorite manga/anime now! 🥰 SpyXFamily is like my hero for saving father-daughter stories

[@bubbleyoel]

I don't really know if you've read this, but you should try kakushigoto! it's about a single father who tries to hide the fact he's a mangaka from his daughter, it's really cute and the ending made me cry 🥲

[@Limacinablues]

You can trust Yotsuba&. It’s an long running series about an single father adopting an young girl. It’s still have the wholesome feel and quite funny too

[@zyrahanne2103]

@@andreaisnthere ahh SpyXFamily is my breath of fresh air when it comes to family themed anime and manga...really is so darn wholesome...I love it to the moon and back...it was a gem in the haystack for me 😊

[@chenwingsee]

So this manga betrayed me twice because I loved it in middle school but then dropped it when I realized what was happening in the second half. Fast forward to me a couple years back and I see a screenshot of the manga on Twitter and I'm like oh yeah! I wonder why I never finished that manga. It was really cute right? Let me read it again. Cue shock and horror a second time, along with a sudden rush of memories from when I first abandoned the manga.

[@izzahamir]

Your brain literally delete the trauma but your nostalgia betrayed yourself😂😂

[@DarkFaeCosplay]

Lmao that amazing. The brain works wonders🤣🤣🤣

[@bluemage6495]

I'll never forget how good I felt after finishing the anime... And then 2 of my friends told me about what happens during the 2nd part. I really thought they were trolling me at first...Now I live in constant fear of wholesome anime/manga.

[@khaimk4r4su]

In a world where genders, sexes, races and even orientations are changed when moving through media, we can make our own headcanon much better than the author intended. The realm of imagination awaits

[@yuvalgabay1023]

@@khaimk4r4su it's will never be the same

[@PrincessNine]

Our favorite things can't stick the landing. And if it did, it probably fumbled the fuck out of the middle. Just don't think about how sus the fruit basket relationships are. Just don't

[@marverickmercer1968]

The Anime is the true canon. It end where it need to. The manga is just a mirage, an illusion,a bad fanfiction, it doesn't exist, especially the last chapter.

[@louzo5175]

the ending was so bad it indused wholesomeMangaPhobia

[@blankblankpog]

The anime was a 10/10 masterpiece, they even hired and directed actual kid actors to potray kids in the anime. It feels grounded, realistic, heartwarming and also gutwrenching. The pallete colours were really awesome. It was a (near) perfect family drama. And, we dont talk about the manga

[@stefanofeblesverastegui8869]

kid actors? That's not somethin you see in (western or eastern) animation very often.

[@juannaym8488]

@@stefanofeblesverastegui8869 Only other examples I can remember were Boo in Monsters Inc. and young Nico Robin in a One Piece flashback. If you were to extend kid actors to juveniles, then there are quite a lot of voice actors in the age range of 10-17

[@Sandwhaler]

@@juannaym8488 The VAs for the younger kids in Barakamon were kids themselves, iirc.

[@redmoonrise6507]

also Ike from south park@@juannaym8488

[@DJBSharpMusic]

@@Sandwhaler I really enjoyed Barakamon. It felt so real with them having actual child actors for those characters, but then again, the themes in that show were supposed to be very grounded and emotional, so it sort of would make sense that a smart casting director would do something like that. Gotta be honest, though, her character stole the show.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

The first red flag was when Rin refused to take Dakichi's surname. Not weird on its own, but looking back its a lot more sinister.

[@brigittahegarini7162]

Why is that?

[@Kakashi42069]

@@brigittahegarini7162 cause then it wouldnt be as weird "ideally" with different last names to get together when older

[@magolor152]

​@@Kakashi42069 almost as if the writer was planning it from the start and dropped subtle hints that this was going to happen

[@abrahamlupis9354]

@@Kakashi42069 cousin love and non blood related siblings don't mind having the same surname

[@darkserpent7191]

called usagi drop cause of the way your heart drops into your stomach when the second part rolls around

[@ash8875]

This is the first time in an anime history where people said "don't make a season 2."😂

[@andrewmildenberg4210]

Lol. Right? The anime is perfect and sweet as is.

[@RoeppsPoepps]

... or they could make a 2nd season with an altered plot that people would be satisfied with.

[@silverstrikev8868]

Sakurasou is also kinda like that

[@ArceusHibiki]

the second must be Fuuka...

[@ninjoushinja9478]

I was like that with Rent a Girlfriend 💀

[@vurrunna]

I remember when I read Usagi Drop. I remember thinking it was one of the most real and beautiful stories of family and parenting I'd ever read-a masterpiece of storytelling that explored themes of insecurity, isolation, and fear, as well as familial bonds, personal growth, and understanding. It was one of the greatest explorations of the human condition I'd ever had the pleasure of reading. I ended up putting the story down after the first act, citing that I wasn't a fan of the time skip, and that I could tell the story was going down a different, but still believable direction than I'd wanted (I figured Daikichi and Yukari not getting together was one of those things where it's just more believable that they'd never get romantically involved, even if I wanted them to). I knew I probably wouldn't finish the story, but was confident I'd forever remember it as one of the greats. Words can ill express the brain shattering psychic damage I endured when I learned how the manga ended.

[@Mediados]

"It was a beautiful story about parenting. Until it wasn't."

[@fenixfyrehart3191]

My friend. Read Yotsubato. Yousuke Koiwai is the epitome of the word Dad and his relationship with his daughter is exactly like the one I have with my dad as a son.

[@sawgiie]

@@fenixfyrehart3191 If nobody got me I know Yotsuba%! got me can i get an amen

[@ane150893]

Maybe you need to change your perspective on how you look at this, maybe, my friend, that's what it takes to built a sweet, beautiful family and parenting relationships

[@Scrofar]

I think your past self putting it down was a foreshadow

[@daniellemhall1358]

When Spy Family first began, every body said "Its gonna Usagi Drop us!" So glad it didn't

[@jasonstarrising]

SO THATS WHERE THE MEME COMES FROM LMAO

[@nayussysuccer]

If spyxfamily went that route, I would have just lost hope. But because of Yor's existence in the series, I highly doubt it's ever going to go that route.

[@kai8618]

How? It established Yor and Loid loved each other(Hiding it) and Anya SHIPPED THEM IN THE FIRST EP?!

[@justaghostinthesea]

​@@kai8618That's not the same at all

[@kai8618]

@@justaghostinthesea But it clearly established that the ship tease is between Yor and Loid...that's why I don't understand the meme for it

[@blueizumi]

I remember once seeing a post on tumblr say it’s a major red flag to stay away from someone if they defend or like the ending of Usagi Drop and I still agree with that statement

[@darkserpent7191]

....you mean to not stay away from someone? i think staying away from someone who likes the ending of Usagi drop is a good idea, not a red flag😭

[@blueizumi]

@@darkserpent7191 Don't remember making that comment but yes I think I meant "it's a major red flag if someone defends or likes usagi drop's ending and the post creator advised to stay away from those defenders" lol

[@laraprisma6381]

I totally agree! I accept that you like the anime because it ended before the story went off the rails. Liking the ending or the second part in general is already a no no!

[@cjsantiago4035]

@@blueizumiNah its okay its cuz you have a slight grammar error. 😅

[@leileyaravencroft]

Recently I stumbled upon a comment thread where MANY and I do mean MANY of the commenters tried to defend the daddy/daughter dynamic. The OP and only a small handful of others were rightfully outraged when manga pull this stunt. At first I commented about a cute anime I stumbled on and decided to see what would happen next only to be met with an Usagi Drop ending. I was so upset. But when I read on and people were actually *defending* this dynamic with the usual “oh, but she’s not human so it’s okay…” I asked everyone who responded negatively to OP’s rant, what was wrong with them and pointed out *all of the firsts* he would have experienced with her, being she was I think 6 (older in whatever years of whatever race she was) that covered a *lot* of ground. I didn’t even want to read any replies to my comment because frankly… just knowing they were trying to defend it was just gross to me.

[@prvtthd401]

The thing is, they pulled the forbidden card after all those wholesome chapters. They quite literally trapped you by luring you in and having you commit because after all those chapters.

[@hautakleightontam771]

Almost like a metaphor for grooming, isn't it? You're conditioned and manipulated into a relationship, normalising an inappropriate form of intimacy, and eventually coerced to accept its 'natural' conclusion. Perhaps even the author was unwittingly seduced by their own fantasy of perfectly arranged love, in which case I genuinely hope they've awoken to its consequences.

[@prvtthd401]

@@hautakleightontam771 wow, I never made the connection through my disgust, disappointment and anger 😂

[@LecherousLizard]

@@hautakleightontam771 Children grooming adults. Now, that's a novel concept.

[@swisslord2478]

​@@prvtthd401 It doesn't trap you, more like you're in a moldy cave with rats, you're disgusted but curious. You can always turn back and leave the cave but you decide to explore it.

[@baiwuli6781]

what do you mean, the ending is quite good

[@ringkunmori]

What god level foreshadowing that the second half of the title predicted how readers by the second half of the story would drop this manga

[@skye387]

Definitely. First part : Usagi -> rabbit -> fluff Drop : we're all dropping it.

[@aetherxsn1591]

@kuro saigatsu who tf cares tho

[@aronbaron1746]

@@aetherxsn1591 Stupid question isn't it?

[@FeranNyan]

@kuro saigatsu That's some god-level bullshit you're spewing rn, disrespectfully

[@theooracle4610]

@@kurosaigatsu9557 isn't that how life is, no matter how good something is there's always some bs to it its really 2 sides of a coin

[@slenderminion2229]

I have never heard of this series before and even I feel betrayed. Can't imagine how it must've been for the readers when it came out.

[@blankbear782]

Same

[@pskeifk]

The anime is just the first part of the manga, so a lot of people got into the manga through the anime. Thinking about what a wholesome thing they just watched and how they wanted to see more of that.

[@ritzybre193]

I didn't read it on release but I read it during HS. I felt angry at how the story turned out. I dropped it and spit on it when talking about it with friends.

[@YaMamasAss]

It was a full gut punch lol I had been keeping up with the chapters as they came out and it just felt worse and worse during each wait once the turn happened 💀

[@dentangaji6161]

@RUNOTENTERTAIN Chu Not liking incest isn't western views my guy.

[@blacklightgamer97]

12:30 I paused right at "Rin has romantic fee-" and started going like michael scott in the office "NOOOOO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO"

[@odderoutlet]

Tbh I had a feeling the manga would take that route the minute I heard the plot synopsis-

[@conradharris8167]

Lowart I made a bad choice. I watched the first half-ish of this video, and thought to myself if this sounds like a delightful read. So I read it, and went through the exact experiences you described in the second half of this video. Never have I felt so foolish for not having finished a KZbin video.

[@lambling]

this made me laugh I'm sorry

[@zoeb3573]

The title: the manga that betrayed us all You: that sounds like a safe read!! Congratulations you played yourself

[@crankraz]

Same...

[@Alberto_Lince_Gan]

you played a stupid game, you won a stupid price, congrats

[@Flickerbeat]

If I hadn't gone into the comments from the start of the video, I might have done the same thing. Cause it seems so cute and wholesome! And then -horror-.

[@peachibread1983]

Never heard of this story before The first half seemed great! Second half hit me in the head with a golf club

[@SingingSealRiana]

watch the anime, it is wholesome, adorable, a great story and pretend that the manga and its especialy its later parts never existed

[@spencerm5663]

@@SingingSealRiana And especially don't watch the live action movie. They include the Manga ending.

[@protvgamingalbert1510]

Basically TLOU in a nutshell

[@falkner9072]

@@spencerm5663 They made a movie?!

[@SingingSealRiana]

@@spencerm5663 never watch live action movies in generell, I know one that's OK and the rest we here utter bs

[@beelzemobabbity]

All i can think of is “what was the author imagining during these scenes?” What kind of things were they thinking in the scenes we felt were heartwarming? Did they see that as development twords the ending? The best possibility is that they actually did pull this out of their ass and that they didn’t intend it from the start.

[@randomdude9217]

She has a older man fetish, most women have that. The woman who did Ristorante Paradiso manga also had a older man fetish as most of waiters and the chefs are in their late 30s-40s. It was reported she was dating an older Italian man when she was just 18

[@beelzemobabbity]

@@randomdude9217 I wouldn’t say most women do, its more that socially its seen that women “lose value” with age and men “gain value” making it “socially acceptable” to old people that a 40 year old dude dates exclusively 20 year old women (looking at you Leonardo decaprio). Women think that the older they are then maybe they’ll act mature or something. I think its pretty sad. And the men are creepy

[@Naharu.]

@@randomdude9217 tell me you have never touched a boob in your life without telling me you have never touched a boob in your life

[@jackmanleblanc2518]

@@beelzemobabbityI think Random Dude might mean that most women in Japan have that fetish, since that's where this is written. I... can neither confirm nor deny the validity of that statement, since it very well could be true for all we know. It's Japan after all.

[@aldrans1998]

@@beelzemobabbity i mean its true tho a womens prime ends when a mans prime begins the age 30

[@xaesteria]

Reminds me of this true story from a girl on tiktok that broke my heart. She was a full adult when her dad (or stepdad maybe... he still raised her since she was a small child) confessed his romantic love to her, saying that he wanted to marry her. It destroyed her entire life. I can't even imagine the horror and betrayal she must have felt.

[@midnights2631]

Fuck. I hope she got away.

[@midnights2631]

Please tell me she stays away from him.

[@leileyaravencroft]

@@midnights2631She does. She goes full no contact which is a story itself. But yeah, it destroyed her.

[@ccceab]

the thing that gets me about these types of stories where all the characters excuse and forgive the behavior of the main character, it really makes you wonder why there is not a SINGLE person pointing out this disgusting dynamic. really makes you wonder why the author would only have people approve of their relationship…

[@mauriciomeireles1210]

There is a korean webtoon called "i dont want that kind of hero" that actually does that: Superheroes are a thing, as well as demons. Demons are mostly just there old grandpas with absurd powers and they dont have the "your soul thing". Well there is this one demon that has a relationship with its contractor, and the demons are ok with that but then when he says that they met "when i was her grandpa contractor and helped raise her" they IMEDIATLY throw shit at him, because GETTING ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH SOMEONE YOU RAISED IS JUST BAD.

[@victordeluca7360]

@@scenel-9066 Imagine trying to compare a consensual relationship to abuse of someone who can't consent

[@abigaildiamante9096]

The English title is actually "I don't want this kind of hero". And I didn't expect to see it mentioned here! It was pretty funny how the demons were trashing on him as soon as he revealed that

[@keke9833]

@@abigaildiamante9096 ikr lmao. Totally unexpected mention, but a very welcome one. Bless old demons and their moral compass lmao

[@sapphic.flower]

Literally, the author just avoided all moral dilemmas because they didn't want to confront it. 🙃 In a sane world, no one would've been ok with it

[@sushijones]

It's worth noting that one of the oldest novel, and the most famous work of Japanese literature, The Tale of Genji, specifically includes a storyline that's just "Hey, what if you raised a child to be your wife? Wouldn't that be fucked up and evil?"

[@adzi6164]

was it actually portrayed there as wrong?

[@tanitani5431]

​@@adzi6164kind of, it wasn't explicitly condemned but it fell in line w Genjis pattern of hurting others for his own desperation for love

[@BobTheArchmage]

@@adzi6164 It's unfortunately not clear cut whether the story / the author wants to portray Genji's actions towards Murasaki as clearly morally wrong or if those actions were considered okay at the time. I've seen about as many intepretations that frame it as "Clearly the novel frames this as wrong" as I've seen interpretations going "Clearly this is one of the greatest love stories of all time." Regardless of what the actual intent is, the Tale of Genji is part of standard Japanese literature study in schools, so every single Japanese kid will be somewhat familiar with the story. And for a full tinfoil hat theory of mine, I think that being exposed to this story in literature class can explain a lot of the weird way Japanese media portray romance between basically relatives, be they cousins or non-blood related adoptive family.

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

@@BobTheArchmage It's rare to find ancient stories that have that kind of overt moral message with the exception of religious texts, so I can understand the ambiguity. Ideology as an individual component of one's personality was not quite a thing in mainstream society until the 18th century.

[@Deatheater4444]

Considering Genji decides 'her little brother is fine too' when the court lady he's arrived to bang isn't there, I feel like you might have misinterpreted the authorial intent regarding relationships and morality.

[@insearchofprometheus]

Usagi Drop is such a wonderful anime. It would be horrible if it had a manga that went this direction. Luckily it was an anime original that has no manga. I wonder where all the panels used in the video came from, because there is no manga. Oh well, I can always imagine a wholesome ending for the anime as cannon with Daikichi marrying Yukari because it was obviously going that way, and THERE IS NO MANGA.

[@NightmareZV]

Let me guess... Copium?

[@insearchofprometheus]

@@NightmareZV Every day.

[@AryTehCapricat]

Sometimes you just really need it. 😔

[@ashisawsome621]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se 😊

[@Pollito_Con_Papas555]

@@ashisawsome621 There is no Usagi Drop manga in Ba Sing Se

[@No-Name0087]

The second part always felt to me like something happened to the mangaka behind the scenes and for the second part his publishers panicked and put someone else at the helm and that it didnt matter what this second one had in mind for the story as long as they could mimick the first one's artstyle.

[@DS-yg3sb]

"Before it wasn't a sacrifice because he loved his child now it wasn't a sacrifice because he gets to make love to his child". I feel you man I'm gonna be sick too

[@Plsrateeight]

Oh no, it's almost like, it's not his child!

[@pinxelated2799]

@@Plsrateeight Ok groomer

[@thamrew676]

average groomer commenter:@@Plsrateeight

[@ash_aiden]

@@Plsrateeight groomer

[@midnight8372]

@@Plsrateeight groomer self report is crazy

[@oomay1925]

The worse thing is that this manga really does presents itself as purely wholesome cute family manga. And even when the most disturbing romance ends up developing it still does it in a sweet slice-of-life way like this shit is meant to be cute 💀 this scarred me as a middle school when I read it.

[@shingshongshamalama]

nah the manga absolutely presented itself as freaky fetish literature for horny women and nobody in japan really questioned that.

[@Kujo_Saitama]

The fact that the mangaka along with their editors made the readers think that it is a wholesome manga yet at the same time dropping several hints of the wrongdoings at the first half and then bamboozling the readers starting from the second half makes the Satan himself being a prominent fan of their work.

[@ravaniphoenix5431]

Funny thing is that Satan actually consulted God before ever doing his despicable actions... So I do not think he'd be a fan of this kind of bait-and-switch evil. This fact aside, the way he deceives people and makes them do bad things is by telling that the bad thing will actually be good, with no subtlety to his words. He doesn't hide shit. At the end of the day, Satan is just another lackey of God (which opens a whole other can of worms, but enough of this). So they're worse than Satan, because they promised something, hiding sus shit very subtly and then betraying us in the end (also, according to Dante Alighieri, betrayal is the worst sin you can ever commit. It's in the deepest level of hell). Let that sink in.

[@Kujo_Saitama]

@@ravaniphoenix5431 I apologize for that. It seems like I have underestimated my knowledge capabilities. Than you dear Ravani for enlighten me with such great knowledge. This is a genuine comment if anyone's wondering.

[@frozenburrit053]

@@Kujo_Saitama what did the other person say?? They deleted their comment

[@ihaveanaceupmysleeveandits1611]

Eye man don’t do satan like that

[@ravaniphoenix5431]

@@frozenburrit053 If you're referring to me... I didn't. Seems like a KZbin bug where comments are just disappearing, even though they're still there. Can you see this one? I can see my reply, but looks like you can't.

[@brianawong312]

I used to read this manga, but I stopped because my library didn't have all the books. If only I knew what a bullet I dodged.

[@mōri_-3v3]

I've never had a dad. So when I read this as a kid I loved it and felt so much comfort from it. Until the last half. It broke me. 13 yr old me didn't know what to think of it.

[@DeathMelodies]

if I had read this as a kid it would have just been another piece of media that "confirmed" that my grooming was acceptable and okay. Talk about brain damage.

[@mōri_-3v3]

This is so true. Its so damaging. Not to mention ruining a loving story for twisted gratification.

[@ThatChristianMetaIhead]

oh you poor bastard

[@ww3196]

I'm genuinely sorry for you. I hope you're doing a bit better now that time has passed.

[@animelvr329]

I’m truly sorry you had that experience at such a young age. I can’t imaging reading this from that perspective, and even more so if you happened to be a young person abused by their father/father figure. Can you imagine being groomed as a child IRL, then reading this and thinking that it’s normal and encouraged?? Man I REALLY hate this manga author.

[@mikaelalynn7891]

Years ago, my mom and I were bonding over the anime, so I got her a couple volumes of the manga for her birthday or Christmas. Thank God I only got her the first 3 volumes. When I read online that Rin falls in love with Daikichi, I just announced to her that we wouldn’t be reading any further and to not ask why. Man, I can still hear that bullet whizzing past.

[@pn7600]

oh damn that was so close to be horrible

[@artificiallightk]

I've read this when i was 12 and my mom did too. I mean it's a wholesome story right ? Anyways both of our reactions where the same : "what in the actual fuck was that ending ?"

[@mimimi5656]

For real. It makes me glad that I didn't talk about this manga with anyone when I was in the middle of reading it.

[@emilybarclay8831]

Imagine meeting up with a guy who you went to a parenting school with and asking about their daughter only to find out _he’s sleeping with her_

[@tsuki3752]

the woman who he was in love with at the beginning seeing them and being “WHEWWW i dodged a bullet there!!!”

[@orektez]

isn't she also his aunt technically? she's the daughter of his grandpa. i might be misremembering but i have no intention of reading it again to check.

[@emilybarclay8831]

@@orektez it came out that they weren’t ‘really’ related apparently. Which always happens with these sorts of stories. ‘It’s not technically incest’ 🤢

[@orektez]

sheesh

[@You-are-definitely-right-but]

@@emilybarclay8831Completely overwrites the story just to force in a fetish

[@arrowofmilk]

This anime was always one of my favorites I cried for hours after learning about the second half. This was the anime that my uncle watched with me to learn to read. He would pause every line so that I could read it out loud. We did it every week when it came out.

[@Scrofar]

I'm so sorry. The only thing we can do now is to make sure your uncle never finds out about the second half.

[@yummines]

The worst part of the series is that it has forever tainted the perception of all future manga/anime about single dads. I remember seeing comments about both Sweetness & Lightning and Kakushigoto from people afraid of those series ending up like Usagi Drop. At least Yotsuba&! still exists as a palette cleanser.

[@lxi..]

I remember when Spy × Family first aired, people were worried/accusing that the main dad character was going to act sexual towards Anya. After hearing about this Manga I can see why the entire anime community has trust issues about found family anime, especially if the found family involves a young elementary school girl

[@serenepogi]

The "For my daughter ill defeat the demon lord" is just fantasy usagi drop.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

​@@lxi.. I think that the closest it got to it was in the 6th or 5th chapter where anya's friend is trying to find a dress to seduce loid and one of her dresses that is similar to that of yuri's is described as sexy as well the government official that kept a secret vault filled with pictures of young girls which he kept for the future

[@strawnut6652]

@@lxi.. same. I was absolutely disgusted when people even thought of such a thing on something as wholesome as Spy x Fam but then I realized mangas like this have such a terrible history and dads had a bad bad reputation because of Usagi Drop. Moreso, it was really popular for being wholesome and then the ending... Made it even worse ugh

[@BeyondTrash-xe1vs]

@@serenepogi No... please don't tell me that story did the same thing.

[@theoldmonk]

Just randomly turning everyone into a piece of toast and eaten by birds would have been a better than that horrible route.

[@blurryeyes316]

That sounds lovely in comparation.

[@GamingWithHajimemes]

Ah the orange fanta route. A classic.

[@KeitieKalopsia]

That’d be kinda funny

[@chrono9503]

Prometheus moment

[@melodicdumpster]

​@@chrono9503 they did my boy Prometheus wrong, he might be a pyromaniac but he ain't no toast

[@jsthecanuck6804]

i had a friend who talked about this one and im glad i didnt read it, this is the definition of “If you want a happy ending, it depends on where you stop your story.”

[@gicchi]

The anime is super heart warming tho. If you don’t want to see the manga ending, you can just watch the anime and stop there (I wish I did this, then I read the manga and get super shocked lol)

[@PichuElric]

Lmaoo that was literally what I told my cousin when he was checking my anime folder and asked about this anime 😭

[@อานนท์จอสูงเนิน]

The first half is perfect. No matter how it end.

[@Uzsjjbs.]

The second part doesn't exists. It doesn't exists, it doesn't exists, IT DOESN'T EXISTS

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Fredbear does not exist.

[@Forever_Rayne]

Canon can't hurt you if you forever live in denial.

[@isaachester8475]

What’s so crazy about this is how well the author did at telling a believable, well-written, wholesome family story. If it were left alone it would be considered one of the classics, a timeless piece that lived on fondly in people’s memories. It’s hard to believe that the same mind who came up with such wonderful writing could also come up with such a horrible idea and actually go through with it, for no reason. The story didn’t need this twist, it was already amazing. And now it’s shit.

[@Needler13]

Mostly because this whole manga was her own fetish. She has a huge Electra complex, she has a thing for her own father as well.

[@isaachester8475]

@@Needler13 So weird. I guess people are complex, they can be talented and understand the human condition, but also have a totally weird or messed up side.

[@wfjhDUI]

It really is fascinating that the same mind wrote these two halves. Was this the plan all along? The author obviously has a strong understanding of human relationships so how tf did they think this ending would be received??

[@isaachester8475]

@@wfjhDUI My thoughts exactly. Like how can you be so understanding of healthy human relationships yet also so far detached from them at the same time?

[@lindy10]

​@@isaachester8475 makes sense if you think of those who have multiple personalities, which is the only way I could reason the author's writing lol

[@TheHobgoblyn]

The reason why the whole "raise a little girl to adulthood and then have marries with her" is so prevalent in Japanese fiction is because it is part of Tales of Genji.Which is like THE origin of all Japanese fiction and continues to be taught in schools to this day. It's like the most extreme version of grooming, he totally kidnaps Murasaki, raises her to be his ideal wife. and once things don't work out with the woman he wants, he marries her.

[@kevinbell5674]

I know the second part is bad, but you know that's not how it happened.

[@hafirenggayuda]

Tales if Genji themselves are about sexual life in aristocracy, elegant but perverted. They're basically classic p0rn

[@thatonejoey1847]

@@hafirenggayuda ah, the mythical hentai with a plot

[@kingkapybara9964]

And then you find out that it was written by a woman!

[@TheHobgoblyn]

@@kingkapybara9964 So were Twilight, 50-Shades of Grey and the majority of whole "Romance Novel" sections at every bookstore that involve men kidnapping, controlling, raping and gas-lightning women presented as though it were positive.

[@zanthiablue5254]

This reminded me of a book series I read in which the main characters were adopted siblings that were raised together. Having siblings that work together and are friends more than rivals is weirdly uncommon and I have always been close friends with my siblings. But at the end of the series it is revealed that not only do they have romantic feelings for eachother, they have secretly been dating throughout the whole trilogy. This was made all the worse by the fact that I was recommended the series by my sister (before the last book was out) and so we were betrayed together in the most uncomfortable way possible.

[@clarehidalgo]

IRL Most countries legally treat adoptive siblings as though they are blood siblings which makes that like tripley worse

[@happybunnyntx]

I think the only "adopted siblings" trope I've been ok with was in "Next life as a villainess" and "Sister of the obsessive male lead". In the former they take in a distant cousin and he reminds the female lead that they aren't closely related from the get-go because he likes her. "I'm not actually your brother, you know?" In the latter the girl is a foster daughter and is brought in around 11 and in reality only spends a few months before being shipped off for *7 years* and then returns to her "brother" who has to sit her down and state plainly that they aren't actually siblings and he has feelings for her. She even states herself that she feels like more than a guest in their house, but not quite like family.

[@toontrooper4103]

Crazy that these plots exist outside of porn.

[@Chingakyckaling]

I remember this from a book series called Newsflesh I read a long time ago. The protagonists were independent journalists working together. It's revealed almost at the end, but the author laid out a few hints at the beginning.

[@zanthiablue5254]

@@Chingakyckaling Thats the series I was talking about. I guess we missed those hints.

[@ClaudioProductionsX]

This series ending is the embodiment of the meme of when your credit card is declined when going to a psychiatrist.

[@updog9567]

When you talked about the 1st part, it was so wholesome and adorable I forgot what this video was really about. I can't imagine how betrayed Usagi Drop fans felt, especially those who considered this manga as their favorite. I have heard of this before and didnt think much besides "wow, thats weird". But after watching you talk about how good of a parent Daikichi was, it suddenly hit me. This man was her dad. DAD. It doesnt matter he was an adoptive, he was her father. A father who overcame many struggles and deeply loved his daughter. How did the author even come up with that kind of ending?! Its sickening. Its disgusting. I literally dont know what to say. Just. Bruh.

[@SamGarcia]

The author didn't plan on the ending, it came about because she was being pressured by readers to give it an ending, so she decided to troll everyone.

[@doveydaze]

@@SamGarcia I just..... But why 😭 why put in this much effort to troll when he could've have just... made the story good??

[@SamGarcia]

@@doveydaze it's not a he, it's a she, a woman, who authored the manga.

[@deltaxcd]

@@doveydaze this ending is very likely preferable for the big part of audience and not forget that artists are not exactly normal people either.

[@deltaxcd]

Actually no. He was not a father figure we will very rarely see parent figures in anime ever. He was just her friend/brother from the beginning who lives with small girl and both had to cooperate solving their problems rather than someone taking responsibility for another person like parents do.

[@micahsheppa1434]

The entire time he was exposing the “Wife Husbandry” part I was just repeating to myself it “it should’ve ended at the child arc, IT SHOULD’VE ENDED AT THE CHILD ARC!” [Edit: Thanks for all the likes but JEEZ this has become an entire thread!]

[@deltaxcd]

then why don't you just end reading at that point? It is not like there is anything to continue or worth reading past that point unless you are going that route. Otherwise plain tragedy where she finds a boyfriend marries moves to another city and our former bachelor is left all alone in his room in the same pose as he started but just 20 years later lonely and forgotten.

[@micahsheppa1434]

@@deltaxcd yes but the fact it exists in the first place is just wrong. Even if you stop at the child arc.

[@deltaxcd]

@@micahsheppa1434 How it can be wrong just because it exists? If you dislike it treat is as some kind of tragedy or trolling other people may think that it is the best ending ever. there si same situation with Madoka Magica anime where quite a lot of people are whining that it did not end the way they wanted even if in my opinion it is excellent ending which pretty much put a middle finger to the face of conservative society indoctrinated by captain america and other superhero comics.

[@micahsheppa1434]

@@deltaxcd I get what you’re saying but I think you are reading to much into it. Where I live, wife husbandry is illegal. We just both have different opinions on the ending.

[@deltaxcd]

@@micahsheppa1434 Thats just another reason why it is good ending because law is nothing else that oppressive system it is very nice to do wrong things at least in fantasy because you can't do it in reality. :) I love when heroes break law like Gokudo anime

[@Danothyus1]

Before reading usagi drops, i always said that "if the journey is good, even if the ending is bad, i can accept it". This manga made me stop thinking this.

[@SakuraMoonflower]

XD

[@ShadowFri3nd]

For me it was GoT HBO series but yeah, usagi drop also apply.

[@meh.96]

GoT is testament that even if you start strong and have great story, you still need actual good ending. The Mist(movie) is also testament that an ending can elevate the story.

[@blacklight1104]

This is why I sometimes spoil myself first. To make sure there's no funny business bamboozling me at the end. Far too many times I've seen this with a series that I've been left on a cliffhanger. When I return I check if it didn't turn out into a trainwreck (like the character personalities and actions turning 180). Often times I'll be left with the feeling that this could've been much more had this author focused on this and that or tidn't rush it. (looking at you "The Devil is a Part-timer" It's their story and prerogative but maaaann why you had to go there my dude?

[@ShadowFri3nd]

@@meh.96 the ending is everything for me now, for example look how Blizzard butchered wow history line with their last 2 expansion's, their writing is utterly garbage.

[@Mutualititve]

Every. God. Damn. Time I see a new family manga or a family centric dynamic, I can't even see them at face value anymore, I just have to randomly reminded of Usagi Drop at the back of my hand.

[@Zakaker]

It somehow took these characters less effort to accept the idea of a relative being in a love relationship with her dad than to accept her existence in the first place

[@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW]

quite honestly

[@zoeb3573]

Genuinely, they all made such a fuss learning who she was, but learning her new dad is gonna impregnate her? that's fine.

[@bearbear3133]

I don't know if it's intentional or not, but the word "Usagi" as in "Rabbit" is such a befitting word for the title of this manga, since rabbit is one of the most common species to do inbreeding. They're quite known for their behavior of mating with their own offsprings, siblings, or whatever as long as they've sexually matured, ironically, unlike wolves.

[@Twocat5side]

Rabbit can also be bunnies which are connected with children (that was my take at the beginning) Now reading this I am getting sick

[@ShuTheIdiot]

I have a dnd character named ugi(well it's his adventuring name) and it shortens from usagi lmao could you guess what animal he was cursed to be mixed with and for what reason he was cursed lmao

[@natashairene3535]

@@ShuTheIdiotpls tell me

[@purplethrill352]

@@ShuTheIdiot Now I'm curious

[@RickyUzumaki993]

@@Twocat5side Same…

[@sugarpapaelmo2004]

“YOU’RE THE DAD! THE DAD! STOP! STOP!” Was basically my reaction to this manga

[@GT-legendary]

me before this video "how bad can this be, the internet sure do love to exaggerate things" me after this video "...oh"

[@pkaiheart4776]

I feel like it could’ve been an interesting plot point if after Rin brings up her feelings for Daikichi it’s approached in a way of her misunderstanding what those feelings are, in many cases in the real world people can often misunderstand romance, they can think they have romantic feelings for someone when in reality it’s just a different form of love (like love for a friend for example) and for Rin having the childhood she did (where, to her understanding, she lost her “real” father) she could’ve begun to misunderstand how she felt about Daikichi and go through the story learning that it’s not really a romantic sort of love but rather she loves him so strongly because he’s her father, the man who raised her, but uh… Obviously they didn’t do something like that LOL

[@pkaiheart4776]

It could also form in a way of her exploring and learning from her trauma of losing her first father, as if her romantic feelings are actually just a fear of losing Daikichi and trying to hold but, but realizing rather romantic feelings for him this is just a trauma response she’s having to not properly recuperating after losing her first father figure Like, I feel like it could’ve been possible to make a “she has feelings for her father figure” plot line work, rather than it ending with all the adult figures in her life encouraging her to continue this toxic mindset and turning her father into a genuine predator

[@waifuri]

This is my headcannon now, thanks

[@candyloverthegreat871]

@@pkaiheart4776 I'm just going to pretend this was how the story rlly went and forget everything I heard the second half of the video T_T

[@Kaika433]

This anime doesn't have a manga, its completely original, the story ends in the anime :)

[@alialluaibi3008]

The manga is a not related spin-off !

[@Kaika433]

@@alialluaibi3008 what manga?

[@alialluaibi3008]

@@Kaika433 no bloody idea !

[@SingingSealRiana]

Exactly!

[@ImGast]

Stupid fanfics, am I right?

[@TheMedicatedArtist]

Usagi Drop: I can excuse a partental figure marrying their child (whom they've raised since they were in first grade), but I draw the line at marrying someone you're blood-related to. Every Sane Individual on Earth: You can excuse a parental figure marrying their child?

[@neoqwerty]

@@jojobod I'm going straight to hell because I laughed

[@JordanSmith-yi3ji]

Same.

[@lolstalgic9602]

Community Moment

[@krysivory493]

Even if they're not blood related, it's called grooming, doofus. 🙄

[@Zezlemet]

I always hate when media treat's this sort of a thing like a Brazzer's scene "Were not related so it's okay Step-bro"

[@cynx1321]

''The Manga That Betrayed Us All'' Is such epic title that i had to watch this video

[@Sandmann629]

if you like it you'd probably love the channel he's ripping off in title, thumbnail, and format alike

[@Kriggleton]

@@Sandmann629wait fr? Damn who is it?

[@Kriggleton]

@@Sandmann629 Andd no answer

[@Sandmann629]

@@Kriggleton yeah lmao my bad i don't exactly check my youtube notifications that often and when I do it's mostly subsciptions. Anyway I was talking about Super Eyepatch Wolf here

[@Kriggleton]

@@Sandmann629 You’re such a good boy.

[@QueenMariposa5]

I was excited at the time skip because it was cool to see an older version of the characters kinda like Rugrats All Grown Up. It was so frustrating for Rin to reject her friend for seeming like a brother, but would gladly date her father figure. The whole "there not actually related" was just a cop out. Since apparently the romance was built up from the beginning, that would make Daikichi's decision to be a parent rooted in pedophilia

[@mylesleggette7520]

If you think him wanting to be with her because he raised her is pedophilia, you seem not to understand what that word means. It might be creepy or weird, but sexual interest in an *adult* is not pedophilia, just because you knew that adult as a child.

[@mimyeko894]

@@mylesleggette7520 that litteraly IS pedophilia, he basically saw her growing, he raised her, etc etc, that is basically pedophilia and grooming.

[@CherryMiyaaa]

@@mylesleggette7520 one word: grooming

[@katybcat8286]

@@mylesleggette7520 Quoting the original comment "Since apparently the romance was built up from the beginning" Yes that's pedophilia, if the romance was built up from the beginning it means it was built up when she was still a child, it's also textbook grooming.

[@snapcracklebop]

@@mylesleggette7520 also i want to mention that it’s entirely okay for a child to go through a ‘puppy love’ sort of stage in liking an adult figure in their life, they will get over it in most cases since kids are still figuring out emotions and how to handle their thoughts. however, the adult figure in no way shape or form should ever respond to those feelings and they would be taking advantage of a child if they do. children cannot consent

[@terpsidance.]

I watched the first season of Usagi Drop years ago, and adored it, until someone on 4chan told me how it ends. I'll never understand how a writer could understand so well what it means to be a parent, and at the end of the story suddenly have no clue what it means to be a parent....

[@runny.nose_]

What I also don't get is the fact that the author was female. Some comments say she has Elektra complex. There is also a comment that the ending was her trolling cause people are forcing her to give the series an ending instead of an open ended one.

[@MrLastlived]

@@runny.nose_ I can believe that second part, its such a deviated tone shift that it sounds like a completely different authorial intent from the first part.

[@theonewhoclickedyourballsclean]

W anime w ship w end w plot twist

[@NorahdjVV]

I reaally hope its the second one

[@VultRoos]

I was a foster child at one point, when I was very young. The beginning of usagi Drop was really sweet. I related to Rin on a basic level visceral level since my family members couldn't really take me in for a lot of reasons (all reasonable, but all not very easy to explain to a very young toddler). On an impulse I peeked at what the ending of the series was like in the middle of going through it. Utter disgust and betrayal doesn't even begin to describe how I felt when I realized where things eventually go. Just beyond disgusting. now I'm just really glad I didn't waste my time reading through any more of the garbage after that peek

[@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135]

thats fucked dude😡🤬🤮💀💀💀

[@rudyhernandez4595]

Woody Allen would love this manga

[@lornbaker1083]

I hate myself for how much I laughed at this. It's funny because it's horrible and true.

[@bodhidaruma2824]

his favorite manga probably

[@realkraid]

Ugh

[@falconeshield]

I can't believe that horrible man is still alive and relevant to public conversation

[@WhinyB]

I always hope when these kids are crushing on these adult figures they would handle it differently. Like kids get crushes all the time, it would have been nice to see him handle this “school girl crush” instead of going “yeah, sure I’ll marry you.”

[@MinqApoc]

Lately i've been feeling like a LOT of mangaka have no clue how the real world works, how real humans work and how real humans make decisions.

[@zid9611]

@@MinqApoc umm fantasies are like the bedrock of writing stories. Also this happens in RL too. Just not common.

[@catdogfishdogcats]

@@zid9611 Yeah in some fields its common for research students to end up marrying their professors due to how much time they spend together. So the age gap isn't the issue. It's the familial bond. But I think authors are like Male lead, Female lead? I guess they have to end up together by the end, even if it's probably not a good ending. Maybe the Japanese readers are more for this ending who knows. This is a Josei. I guess they expect us to take it with a critical lense on some mental Gymnastics where it makes sense. I'm sure other cultures do stuff like this, but we reject it for a reason.

[@juutakaster]

reading your comment reminded me of asuka's crush on Kaji that quickly got taken down by kaji's obvious rejection because he's an actual SANE adult (plus his love is reserved to Misato). even if kaji's a character, he's definitely better minded than the author of usagi drop. also props to Hideaki Anno for being such the W author behind evangelion

[@Shimamon27]

I think this weirdly sounds like a really good psycological horror concept. They bait you into wholesume safety, have many hints and breadcrums make their way barely noticed... Like itching you in the back of your mind as you keep ignoring it... And then it lets in the extremely disturbing stuff, but does it as if it was completely natural, where no one acts off, everything still carries on the wholesum wonderful vibe ,except you. You feel extreme dread. Damn, I'm inspired by how horrible this is 😀

[@SirNemr]

Doki Doki Literature Club kinda...?

[@Shimamon27]

@@SirNemr It wasn't wholesome, it had a dating sim base. Dating sims are sexual/relationship fantasies... They are never innocent at heart. You need true heart warming moments that makes you forget your predatorial side... Pretty much, fully be a child in the moment seeing a story that catches your feelings, drops your shields and truly connect at an innocent level. And than you discover they were cannibals all along, you were just too occupied by their pure emotions to take a look at the content of their plates.

[@t65bx25]

@@SirNemr Or Omori, or Evangelion, or

[@Kedamohno]

i agree honestly, that could be a great way also if in a situation like this involving children, to show how the trust of someone who was supposed to protect you can shatter like that, and make the reader feel almost as betrayed as the child...depressing but honestly sounds like great storytelling

[@gringusgaming]

@@SirNemr first thing I thought of from that description lololol

[@Edramon53]

I remember watching a series of lectures by Brandon Sanderson on writing, one of his lessons was on setting the readers expectations for your story. This is practically a case study in betraying that.

Exactly, subverting expectations is a fast track to failure unless you are DAMNED skilled and have a really good plan for it. Look at The Last Jedi, it betrayed so many expectations and outright lore and character personality traits that many hated the film for doing it. The reason because we had the Original Trilogy set our expectations for what Luke would be like as an older wiser Jedi Master and it sure as hell wasn't going from "My father may be a mass murderer, mailed fist of the Empire and traitor to the Jedi, but I sense some good in him and can turn him back" to "I had a dream my nephew could be evil one day, MUST KILL HIM!"

[@BknMoonStudios]

@ One example of a _subverted expectation_ done right would be the true nature of the protagonist, K, in *Blade Runner 2049.* In fact, you can even make a comparison with Rey in *The Last Jedi,* since the (intended) twist for both movies is "the protagonist is NOT the chosen one". But we've known since the previous movie that Rey IS special. Even if Rey wasn't born from an important family (which was retconned in Rise of Skywalker, lol), she still had insane powers that came out of nowhere, so her not being a Skywalker (or a Kenobi, Katarn, Palpatine, etc.) would've made no difference to the story anyways. By contrast, K being unsure of whether he is Deckard's child or not is of massive importance to the story, and when it turns out he isn't, it makes his actions all the more impressive. He was literally a nobody, the same as any other mass production replicant, yet through his strong will and efforts was able to reunite a broken family and save their lives. The subversion in BR2049 *_enhanced_* the story, whereas the subversion in TLJ ranges from *_irrelevant_* to *_awful_* depending on who you ask.

[@thunderspark1536]

@@BknMoonStudios Hell they could have made Rey just....a scrappy underdog, using her wits and tech in a world of space magic. Make this literal junk trader someone who wins through grit and skill.

[@BruhMeme85]

@@BknMoonStudios that's a better example first thing that came into my head is the absolute dumpster fire that is school days the start was shit the middle was shit everything that lead up to the ending was shit every single character was shit so they just killed off the main character. not the solution I was expecting but that also works

[@blackharu159]

This happened with an anime with the title "If for my DAUGHTER, I would defeat the demon lord"... I watched the anime hoping not to get Usagi Dropped, and when I looked to see if they would make a second season and was spoiled with the unwholesome ending 🙃

[@abrahamlupis9354]

well, at least there was more accepted

[@sarahouillette1357]

You captured my feelings all too well, man. I felt gutted after being spoiled...

[@zedmedina8591]

13 year old me watched a few eps and I liked it, then the ending got spoiled for me and that was the first time I said an audible "what the f*ck" to a story's events lmfao. I usagi dropped the anime after that, twas just a waste of time at that point.

[@yesyes2736]

i like how this whole masterfully crafted story is just an excuse for i n c e s t

[@johans3164]

Groomers: The Anime

[@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135]

therse alot more storys like this and i really hate this shit ngl

[@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135]

@@johans3164 yes 10000% anime be gross like that no cap 😡🤮

[@yesyes2736]

@@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 tbh same, this crap makes me angry

[@Limegreenedragon]

Inseki, actually. Incest is blood related, inseki is not blood related

[@jonasboel2473]

When I saw the title of this video and heard that it was about a father and child, I knew where it was going. Then you told me about part one, and I let go of my suspiciouns and hoped to the deepest part of my soul that the titular "betrayl" was that it spiraled into a soap opera or something. Great video, you guided me on an emotional jurney masterfully crafted, and I got to feel the betrayl and desgust you described.

[@falkner9072]

The anime ignores the weird part of the story, so if you want the wholesome part, give the show a try.

[@gabetalks9275]

@@falkner9072 I don't think it's possible to watch the wholesome parts knowing what comes next. It's like watching the calm before a horrible storm, and trying to stay calm. It's impossible.

[@falkner9072]

@@gabetalks9275 I do and I still enjoy the anime.

[@channguyen8549]

@@gabetalks9275 I only knew about the manga recently and luckily read the comments and review first before jumping in, I watched the show long ago and I really like it, the anime and the live action version is quite different compare to each other so its ok

[@skye387]

@@channguyen8549 I heard that the live action was made pure, they didn't have script.

[@deuzdeuz8115]

I used to work for the editor that published this manga in France, and I can tell you we were all shocked when we translated the Last tome… I personnaly worked on this title and I was thinking of quiting my job at that time: it was the Last drop, lol.

[@BknMoonStudios]

The last (usagi) drop?😏 ...Bad joke, I know... Feel so sorry for you and your coworkers.

[@deuzdeuz8115]

@@BknMoonStudios I admit: pun intended ;)

[@theonewhoclickedyourballsclean]

W anime w ship w end w plot twist

[@boba4540]

@@theonewhoclickedyourballsclean i hope karma kicks your shriveled little ballsack, you edgy bitch.

[@theonewhoclickedyourballsclean]

@@boba4540 wtf 😬🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DaydreamxDazed]

Thanks for unearthing this traumatic memory!! Xoxo

[@charonavery1993]

If you want an actual good story about a man coming to terms he now is a father out of no where, read My Girl by Sahara Mizu. It's actually very touching, sweet, and doesn't do anything gross and sus like Usagi Drop did.

[@DestroyDEI]

Boring

[@ekauranium]

@@DestroyDEI someone gotta check your harddrive

[@mthalter]

​@@DestroyDEIabsolute bottom tier garbage taste ngl

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

@@ekauranium Lol!

[@mirroredhour]

Yeah Sahara Mizu would never pull this shit.

[@CrystalDragen]

To me the worst thing is because of the mixed marketing of it being a "wholesome tale" its at my Library in the teen section alongside other "teen books" like Kitchen princess. meanwhile actual slice of life only semi tragic "The girl from the other side" is stuck upstairs in the adult section with berserk and beastars :/

[@HxH2011DRA]

Oof

[@AuthorityCat]

I mean, this story could've been good if it had a part 3, showing the terrible ramifications of such a fucked up relationship. The power dynamic is disgusting and you know Daichi is going to abuse her and she's going to abuse her child. But since that's not the case, I'd recommend bringing it to someone's attention so no one else has to see it sitting in the kid's section.

[@catandrobbyflores]

I've been freaking out because of where my work put kaiju #9 and attack on titan. Right next to the bad guys and fnaf. I moved chainsaw man as far away as I could.

[@CrystalDragen]

@@catandrobbyflores I see alot of parents/older gen who automatically assume any manga is okay for kids because its "Just cartoons/comics" they also didn't count it for improving literacy 😐

[@catandrobbyflores]

@@CrystalDragen yeah its frustrating when I try to tell Management that it should not be here. One manager finally got it when i opened Batman: the killing joke after he put it in the same section as the kids books.

[@DCHunterxx]

Man, this reminds me of that one time I tried to get into “If it’s for my Daughter, I’d even defeat a Demon Lord!” after seeing out of context wholesome clips of the MC raising his demon daughter that was treated badly by everyone… If only I knew what would’ve happened in the end… I was SO disappointed and this video perfectly described my descent into madness as I slowly realized that it was one of those pieces of media. I definitely hate it here…

[@DGKnight20]

Wait no. I have the first manga. Please tell me your lying. I have to get rid of it!

[@ferdinandarroza548]

@@DGKnight20 he's not lying.

[@clarehidalgo]

The thing is lots of people love the dad raising daughter wholesome bond, so it is such a betrayal for everyone when shit like this happens. I dropped “If it’s for my Daughter, I’d even defeat a Demon Lord!” at chapter 7 after hearing spoilers

[@kossettereaditte7552]

Wait did that show do it too, noooo

[@DCHunterxx]

@@kossettereaditte7552 IIRC, the show ends like Usagi Drop, wholeheartedly wholesome and free from whatever degeneracy that comes along afterwards. So just like the others in this comments section, I think the anime had a proper ending and the manga is just a What-if scenario.

[@noheterotho179]

Crazy, I saw the first 10 seconds with the cover art, went 'oh he dates the kid', heard your description and went 'oh, I was wrong, damn', you mentioned a timeskip and I went 'oh no I was right'. This and me clocking Made in Abyss after seeing the cover art?? I never miss, nonce clocking skills perfect. Side effects of being an anime fan for 15+ years.

[@vincenttorrijos9680]

I think the worst part about the second part is that it recontextualizes the first in such a way that its ruined outright. You can't just tell someone to only read the first part, because then you either have to explain why, which puts the idea into their head as well, or you'll have to leave that question unanswered, forcing them through the exact same roller coaster of emotions. I don't think I've ever seen something completely destroy any narrative value it has in such an absolute way as Usagi Drop does. I've read some deprived shit, watched some deprived shit, I've seen all kinds of terrible, self indulgent, outright fetishizing plots and plot twists, but this, right here, is the single most disgusting thing I've ever read specifically because for how long it strings you along before getting to the bad parts. Most of them are eager to get to the decisive moments, the "make or break" moments, but this, its patient, it takes its time, its playing the long con and it knows it.

[@Homiloko2]

Just tell them to watch the anime - the manga absolutely doesn't exist, they should never read it, and it's completely unrelated... lol

[@theonewhoclickedyourballsclean]

W anime w ship w end w plot twist

[@cinnamonroll96]

the way you described it - the story doesn't just feature this slowburn of a father grooming his daughter (i just can't understand how this rotten shit exists), but also the story itself tries to groom the audience with it. they had you in the first half and then just trauma

[@黒上悠子ちゃんネル]

Bruh you all are overreacting, explain to me why non blood related incest is bad

[@Scringus]

@@黒上悠子ちゃんネル Please take a shower

[@lev_n]

"The manga doesnt exist, the anime is canon" -Me, after finishing all of usagi drop

[@chancefreely]

It's rare when the headcanon becomes the official canon for fans, but I think we found it.

[@GabrielShitposting]

What manga? It's an anime only.

[@Raiden-si4ru]

@@GabrielShitposting my guy, we literally just watched a video of the guy analyzing the manga

[@GabrielShitposting]

@@Raiden-si4ru my guy, I'm trying to gaslight people into staying with only the anime

[@Raiden-si4ru]

@@GabrielShitposting and im kanye west

[@TTchirimoyatristeTT]

The fact Japan has a huge problem with teen girls running away from their home because their fathers saw them in a way a father should never see a daughter, makes this manga even more disgusting to me.

[@deivid-senpai]

womp womp

[@bigbones90]

@@deivid-senpai Did you just say “womp womp?”

[@janinebelleestrada7096]

It's kinda funny that this usually happens when the dad works 12 to 15 hours a day and rarely sees his kid. My stepdad and grampa were astonishingly annoyed because I tend to ask a lot about stuff and then I follow whatever chores they do like hammering nails to the wood taking care of chickens and doing laborious jobs in general and after I turned a teenager they literally treat me like a male worker or a son giving me instructions on how to measure wood and where to drill the nails and holes and making doghouses and sheds. They even gave me industrial grade pressure washer for my birthday because they know I love cleaning pavements and walls. I always wanted a wet vacuum cleaner but maybe when I turn 30. It's kinda funny because some men do see me not as a woman but rather as another man. Maybe because I act like a dad and has a fat dad mom bod staring at construction workers all day along with the other dads.

[@bigbones90]

@@janinebelleestrada7096 It’s usually about the environment and people you grew around. Judging from what you said, you have loving parents that treat you like family. When it comes to Usagi Drop, the audience was manipulated into thinking it was just about family, but turned out it was about how bad people exist…and that’s about it. Just….mentally ill people exist, they view people they should never view as love interests, and it’s sad. That’s what it dulls down to.

[@happilyevernever4289]

​@@janinebelleestrada7096 there's something wrong with your reading comprehension. OP said something about how there is a societal problem in Japan where teen girls leave their homes coz of the sexual deviancy of their fathers and the author still chose to make this into a disgusting story despite this. And u made it about yourself as if that's what OP was talking about.

[@Electric0eye]

Honestly? The thumbnail set my expectations for being horrified so high that the actual content in question seemed tame in comparison.

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

For real 😭

[@exudeku]

Usagi Drop to me went from "holy shit Fatherhood restored" to "I will burn this heretical texts to the inner core"

[@animatoraoi3672]

Take the bleach and incinerate it

[@maymay5600]

😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@averylazydevil]

I heard about the manga after finishing the anime people were telling me, there was something wrong with it but never told me what, I kinda refused to read the manga because of it, cause I didn't want to ruin my experience, although eventually a friend started commenting on the manga as he was reading it in discord and completely told us that which everyone believed he was trolling and made us actually read the manga, it was sadly true and ruin the experience for all of us

[@air2723]

I didn't really know anything about this manga but let me tell you. I genuinely started crying when I realized what the second part was about

[@stoutsprout4297]

Use those tears as lube, you'll get over it

[@euclodies1719]

Sauce pfp?

[@ZenitsuKunn]

@@euclodies1719 ur mom

[@ZenitsuKunn]

Jk

[@ladynoluck]

Valid

[@Noname__55]

The story literally started as one of the most wholesome and then went complete dumpsterfire.