The Many Misdeeds of Jasonafex

A dive into the heinous acts of Jasonafex (also Kabier too?)
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[@RainFeatherYT]

if someone is causing a riff in a 5+ year relationship by asking for rent, then it was bound to be a crash and burn relationship anyway

[@Dainahhatesu]

it seems like it’s been burning for the entire time just slowly continuing to build more fuel

[@themyofmy]

mo more more li MORE LIKE A YIFF

[@doctorsquid360]

@@themyofmy that was terrible, but great execution

[@pickles3128]

Whenever I hear someone blaming someone else for shit like that, I just want to shake them and yell, "You're an adult! YOU'RE responsible for your OWN EMOTIONS AND BEHAVIOR! Nobody is 'making' you do anything." I was half expecting them to move on to threats of self-harm or suicide if he asked for money again.

[@genehen6495]

@@pickles3128 100% this. there is no "You STOLE my partner!" or "You RUINED our relationship!" - your relationship is how you interact with eachother, communicate with eachother and respect eachother. Nothing more. It's not some 'magical element' that can be tainted. Good relationships don't need perfect conditions in order to survive - they MAKE their own perfect conditions even when times are rocky, because in a good relationship being together is the best option. She's an idiot if she genuinely thinks their relationship problems were caused by that guy - and a complete fucking asshole if she was just using it as venom.

[@trashman11]

"Can yall pay rent?" "YOUR RIPPING THIS RELATIONSHIP APART!!!!"

[@lime-flavoredneo1062]

Sounds like a problematic relationship for two problematic people and one poor guy who shouldn't have let them stay there in the first place

[@BunkoValentine]

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA!

[@AKindJester]

@@BunkoValentine Very fitting for the situation, seeing as Lisa was cheating on him

[@TOXTHEWOLVERINE]

What I hear is "Where's the rent?" "YOU'LL GET YOUR RENT WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR" XD

[@lolilikedragons3528]

She sounds like a karen who needs their daily dose of a therapist

[@HyenaDogmore]

"You're abusive!" She says as she most likely only paid the first rent, got gifted a free home and belittles him in the same way my drunk father did.

[@kurama670]

She probably learned that trick from _her_ drunk father

[@KroolZboza007pl]

Like a father like a daughter

[@tailsdblack463]

Gross. Sounds like mine sometimes.

[@NotRemmyCormo]

Same except mine wouldn't even be drunk.

[@rattles544]

If I have a roommate and they dont contribute to rent they are getting kicked out.

[@alexanderf.6396]

Then comes the "I'm being harrased by my roommate-" post

[@mana_beast_beats1114]

Search Reddit "Lived with SJW Furries and It Was Hell" - that's my story....

[@notawesternspy4924]

@@mana_beast_beats1114 reddit user who uses sjw unironically

[@mana_beast_beats1114]

@@notawesternspy4924 - Is this supposed to bother me? Reddit is at least a less toxic environment than either Tumblr or Twitter.

[@notawesternspy4924]

@@mana_beast_beats1114 knowing you use SJW unironically, of course you're gonna think that

[@LAZY-RUBY]

I can't believe Jason-"I'm gonna slide into this rando's personal twitter comic and inform them that their childhood abuse was good actually"-afex is a bad person!

[@CorpseOtter1]

I - honestly can we have anything

[@Flannel-Channel8837]

@@CorpseOtter1 we can always trust father touchboys and coach grabass

[@frontrackkid631]

Ok ecks dee

[@XTCYDVL]

@@frontrackkid631 the fuck does that mean?

[@eminempreg]

@@XTCYDVL "ok XD"

[@giannacherry1698]

Honestly hearing them yell at their old friend makes me disgusted.

[@fenneclord9581]

It sure was sickening She sounds like a danger to society

[@Foxxie0kun]

The definition of "Fair Weather Friends". They could mooch and leech and take advantage all they liked, but the MOMENT they were expected to help, to provide, to enter into the proper roommate position as a contributor to the living conditions, they turned on their "friend" and benefactor and slandered him, abused him, made false accusations against him, and burned that bridge with ten air strikes worth of napalm. Jasonafex and Kabier need to get their heads out of their asses and learn how to live like adults. Only toddlers throw temper tantrums when they get told it's their turn to pick up the toys in the living room.

[@BellHillMayor]

IKR? :(

[@hobomike6935]

@@Foxxie0kun "they could mooch and leech and take advantage, but the moment they were expected to help they slandered him, abused him, made false accusations against him" idk m8 is it _really_ just them? or is it a wider reflection of what the furry community is like? I've met many, many furries and like 95/100 of them behave this way IRL. your fandom is irreparably toxic and acidic, it's almost shocking how many bad people are in it.

[@DwayneTheSquidJohnson]

@@hobomike6935 It’s a case of Wolf in Sheep’s clothing, I’ve been in the fandom before and I can honestly say that nearly everyone in the fandom has some sort of alternative motive when it comes to people they enjoy. Wether it’s art, money, place to live, or simply to control someone. Furries arent good at hiding behind their masks at all, but that’s because people in the fandom simply ignore the numerous red flags because ‘Hehe their art makes me hard’ and shit. It’s why I keep my guard up at all times and have distanced myself from the fandom because it’s not safe or friendly there, it’s honestly a fire pit of hell.

[@Zeverinsen]

I'm just a random stopping by. Don't know anything about the furry community, yet here I am. The KZbin algorithm works in mysterious ways.

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

Lol

[@Frost_the_polarian_fox]

Yep, same for me

[@onyx9292]

same

[@TMBG1539]

same

[@thefunnyaerialman]

I half-expected people to reply with "One of us."

[@maripaws]

Jesus Christ this woman is louder than my laptop when I have my headphones connected at 40% volume.

[@O.M-]

She is louder than my neighbours that live above me and yell all day

[@kdoge]

mf louder than krakatoa 💀

[@NotRemmyCormo]

Welcome to my family.

[@wubbinz]

screams like a banshee

[@LittleParade_]

"can y'all just pay rent?" "YOU ARE *CAUSING* A RIFT IN A 5 YEAR RELATIONSHIP, YOU ARE USING *US* , YOU HAVE NOTHING" "well I have a house and now you two don't :)"

[@teammbomb1417]

It would have been so satisfying to hear Bleakly actually say that to them.

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

“Doggy stairs for their bed.” Yeah they did it with the dog.

[@tikki2340]

Awful addition: They later worked together to release a comic where an anthro girl and guy fuck the girl's feral dog and it was just as bad as it sounds

[@yupok8425]

@@tikki2340 W H A T

[@tikki2340]

@@yupok8425 I'm so sorry you had to learn this way but it's real

[@NIHIL_EGO]

@@tikki2340 Okay, feral, but like, IRL feral, or furry feral ? If the later I have flashbacks of a certain someone.

[@probablybird3927]

most likely furry feral - like they arent anthro and are just animals which is a bit unnerving

[@elir648]

One thing to correct about this video is that their relationship wasn't legal under Australian law at the time, the max age difference is 4 years in Australia when one of the partners is 16-17 and Jason almost breached 6 years. So the dude is not only morally fucked, but he is legally a predator. That nsfw audio of Kabier you mentioned is actually a reason why her and Jason were banned off of fur affinity a bit back before they had to get it removed. Just wish it stuck.

[@MizuSky]

Actually that varies depending on state. In some states as long as you're over 16 you're fine. Other needs to be 18 no excuses no lee-way, no if ands or buts. (SA doesn't fuck around). Others is as you described. QLD & NSW I think is the most lax with it all.

[@II-pu9is]

This also is illegal in canada as well, there is a maximum five year age gap.

[@DaiminsDenOFVids]

@@MizuSky yeah I was about to say the same thing, In my state (QLD) it's just a flat age of consent at 16, unless it's a homosexual relationship, which requires both persons to be 18+ ... I do remember that there was some movement to make this fall in line with the standard age of consent laws, but I'm not sure if there were any actual changes.

[@frostedlambs]

thats barely an issue, most of the world 16 is the age of consent, its retarded to call someone a predator for dating a 16-17 unless theyre like 40 and even then unless they have a very small iq they are incharge of theyre decisions

[@MizuSky]

@@frostedlambs Honestly low key annoyed the shit out of my that someone who was 19 was getting slammed for /talking/ to a 17 y/o & were accused of "grooming" that's such an over reaction imo. I understand it's different had it been someone who's 25+ doing it. But 19? Come the fuck on.

[@dragonv0942]

To this day, I still regret contributing to his growth by offering my voice and audio services. Sadly for me, it took "Servants of the Serpent" and "Amorous" for me to see that I was backing a group that had no real passion and empathy, only a facade. And I paid the price by becoming stock sounds for most NSFW artists. And my initially promised role to play exclusively as Coby to be pushed aside when Kaitlyn convinced Jason (who personally approached me for the opportunity to play Coby) that both I and everyone else involved with the voice acting department would be too much and not worth it. It was sad to see all the time waiting for nothing... only to then realise that instead, all of my old low quality voice samples from before the game was even conceived were put into the game for every single male-on-male scene... the final insult that made me remove him from my contacts and shed all communications with him that I once had.... and I bet he never even noticed/cared. Thank you for bringing this story out, for all to hear.

[@yurigagarine6998]

Lmao he probably doesn't even remember you.

[@dragonv0942]

@@yurigagarine6998 Of course, I mean that should go without saying, why would you remember someone you don't care about?

[@BrookRaccoon]

Jesus fuck, man- I’m so sorry you had to put up with that bullshit. Jason’s an a absolute shit-stain for all of this, and to all of the victims of these two freaking SCUMBAGS, I wish you all well. And I hope that all of you are recovering/doing much better today. 🙏💖💕✨

[@kingdedede1715]

@@BrookRaccoon There's three now.

[@macky1660]

yo, I remember watching Coraline and playing second life with you years ago from Dinoparty.

[@unholychazer]

And now they got some woman with the handle PeaceWolf to ditch her husband and adopted kid to be their sex toy. Wonderful people, them.

[@michaelbecket4901]

Made worse when it’s found out that Jason groomed Peacewolf as well years ago Lol I love the fact she ditched her husband for cheating on her meanwhile they had repeated threesomes in front of her child and even sent a fuck u sign to them basically saying she hated both of them Also hilarious she says Jason and Kabier treat her with respect while Kabier says she’s a good girl and pet and Jason compared her to a used condom and bowling ball “u pick her up stick your shit in her toss her in the gutter and she rolls back for more” we’re his exact words Truly she decided to replace the trash with the entire dumpster

[@NotRemmyCormo]

And she treats them like her "saviors" or something.

[@michaelbecket4901]

@@NotRemmyCormo that’s child grooming for u

[@Gibbon420]

PeaceWolf is a whole other can of awful worms but the info about her leaving their child is incorrect. She and her husband didn't have kids, he was lying to gain sympathy.

[@NotRemmyCormo]

@@Gibbon420 I thought it was just some adopted 17 year old?

[@unorthodoxic4691]

Hope this doesn't sound rude or anything but if I had to live with someone who sounded like Jason's girlfriend, I'd probably pick living in the streets.

[@wilmagregg3131]

no offence to people who suffered but if some started treating me like that because i asked them to SOMETIMES pay rent id probably respond with "no wonder your fathers a abosive alcholic id need to drink too if i had to listen to you screame 247"

[@Impalingthorn]

I had somewhat of a similar situation to this, except the roles were a little reversed. I had three friends, only one of which I am still friends with and close friends at that. I had just returned from Georgia after a break up with my girlfriend and was moving back home. I needed a place to stay for a bit and my circle of friends had offered to take me in if anything were to go wrong and I was following up on that. They'd moved into this swanky new apartment and everything seemed chill for.. maybe 4 hours or so. It became very clear something was wrong though. See, before I'd moved friend A and B were dating. Friend C was new to the circle and had begun openly cucking friend A by banging friend B; so B was pretty much openly cheating on A. A was keeping his composure, but it was clear he no longer cared about his relationship with B. Meanwhile, C was a former shut-in and this was his first taste of what being a man felt like and was acting like the "Big Man" in the house while B ritually bossed him around and molded him into a generally shitty person. They told me A was a terrible roommate and had "fallen from grace", but I had to bunk with the dude and it was very apparent that they were projecting all of their own issues onto him and had just been ganging up on him and bullying him for the year that I'd been away. As a result, A just stayed in his room and kept to himself. B and C attempted to court me in their favor and turn me against A as well, but when it became apparent I still wanted to be friends with A, they turned on me as well. And all of this while they acted like they ran the household; like they were the breadwinners, they did all the work, and they were the reason this situation was possible, which they held over my head. To express how PETTY this had gotten: I was still recovering from the breakup as I had spent ALL of my money moving in with my girlfriend and had spent the last of it making my way back. I had just started a new job and needed to survive two weeks to my next paycheck. Mind you, we are 4 people living together and I had been more than generous with them in the past, so one night for my nightshift at work, I realize I need something to bring to lunch so I take a SINGLE blueberry bagel. I am literally suffering from low calorie intake (I am also a fit man, not obese) and am eating less. I do not want to be reduced to eating what is basically two slices of bread for lunch, but that's where I am at. Apparently, taking a single bagel out of our stockpile of food while I am living with them was crossing a line and needed to be addressed, and I needed to bow down and ask permission to take that bagel like I was a peasant some peasant pleading from my lords for my daily bread. Naturally, I never looked at them the same after that and out of spite, I bought him an entire bag was bagels after I got my first check just to say "I hope these were worth the cost". Anyways, so none of their bullshit was true. B and C were NOT the breadwinners, that was A. B and C were NOT responsible for the apartment, A had literally taken thousands out of his savings to establish this for everyone and they were taking the credit from him. They were NOT doing the majority of the housework, I was. Example: B and C produced a metric fuckton of dishes. I normally LIKE handwashing dishes, but I would literally go through an entire pile that encompassed the sink, and the countertop around it, leave for a few hours, and then come back to see they'd filled it back up. A and myself did not eat anhthing from the pantry (see the "Bagel" story) and opted to just order off Doordash. And we did this because if we used so much as a single dish, B and C would act like we were responsible for the pile. I got bitched at for doing my own laundry, I couldn't let a centimeter of skin touch the new couch let my human oils touch it and forever taint the fabric (this personally offended me because I'm a germophobe and a very clean man) while those two fucked on it, so on and so forth. Eventually A and I moved into our own place and literally never had any issues from that point forward, but I had to get that story off my chest because Jason and his girlfriend reminded me so much of those two, even in just the way they sounded.

[@Foxxie0kun]

Harpies are annoying as fuck, especially when they start stealing scraps of asbestos for their nests.

[@dentheduck2095]

So leave your own house like a pathetic worm? Not a slav approach.

[@Silver77cyn]

On the backstreets. 😏

[@EchoNoctua]

5:29 - You can't call someone a child, and then use their virginity as an insult. That's super childish.

[@ThrashMetalWolf666]

Have rather mixed feelings about Jasonafex, and his wife. On one hand both are talented artists that have a lot of potential to be great with their visually appealing artstyle, and animations, but their bullying, and shitty attitude towards criticism is what's holding them back. Listening to their full argument with Bleak pissed me off as someone who grew up with verbal, and physical abuse. While Jason is fairly tolerable, Kabs was just nonstop yelling and interrupting Bleak, to the point of annoying the shit out of me, I can't fully understand what was going on because of this. If Kabs was a victim of abuse she would not have the audacity to get into someone's personal problems and act like she knows anything about them, and saying shit like "you deserve what you get". Jason seem ok to have a conversation with but Kabs just seems like a insufferable person to speak to, They have huge issues and hopefully they get their shit together at some point. I will always like Amorous, and their fursonas but their attitude is what made them from respected to hated.

[@Crow0567]

Unfortunately, there are abuse victims who continue that same abuse towards others. I've known people like that. It's really sad. Idk if she's a victim, but honestly, whether she is or not doesn't change her accountability for her actions. Edit: I hope they get their shit together soon. For everyone's sakes.

[@cupoftea3499]

Well their art isn't the best, it is just that they draw a lot. They care more about quantity over quality. Compare it to someone like braeburned you see a sudden changed, braeburned actually takes time with his work, makes the art actually feel special instead of just another piece.

[@lysandervalerius9837]

Jason's definitely backing and empowering her there without being as loud.

[@jerichoakuma7441]

I just separate art from the artist, I enjoy their art and think it's really good but until he and his wife work on their attitude I'm not gonna support them financially just view and leave.

[@colbycoolby1592]

@@jerichoakuma7441 and that's how it's done right there.

[@iFeelGlee]

"you're causing a rift between a 5 year relationship" as a man who enjoys watching things burn, i would LOVE to be the wedge inbetween them. god that would be so satisfying.

[@daisakukuze9627]

God I used to be such a fan of him and Amorous, but with him and his gf promoting zoophilia and transphobia I immediately felt embarrassed and moved onto other artists, it’s a shame since they were my first non mainstream exposure to the furry community.

[@Furrazii]

Where

[@LagoVirt]

@@Furrazii The zoophilia I believe is referring to Kabier's NSFW comic containing zoophilic themes. I don't know about transphobia myself as I haven't started the follow up I have planned just yet.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@Furrazii kabier draws feral art aka anthromorphic characters screwing animals aka animated BWORD eastiality

[@deathbringr0005]

Wait where's the transphobia from?

[@notawesternspy4924]

transphobia??

[@mrchills7433]

Hearing that conversation was rough. I don't know how the guy just sat there and took it

[@thisisbetterthanmyprevious6674]

Ikr I felt so bad 😬

[@mrchills7433]

@@thisisbetterthanmyprevious6674 I know... I wanna to help the guy lol

[@bibby659]

Patience and probably knowing alot about the people your living with, I wouldn't be surprised if he saw this coming at one point or another. Not to mention something tells me this isn't the first time he had to listen to their bs, the difference shown is that he recorded it this time and forced them out after, making sure to back himself up knowing they would undoubtedly try some shit later down the line.

[@TheNexDude]

The fact that they yelling at the dude who is asking them to pay rent makes it so much worse. Disrespectfulness lile that can be hard to sit through.

[@Foxxie0kun]

Disrespectful toddlers throwing a fit about being expected to grow up and contribute to the household like proper roommates/adults. They disgust me, and I'm glad that their artwork is so painfully generic that I tired of it after a week almost five years ago now. So many better artists and animators, like BraeBurned and Dacad. They take more time to produce their works, but every one hits a massive row of buttons that all say "YES" to me.

[@whiskers662]

I feel so bad for the guy that got verbally abused by them no one deserves to be treated that way I wish him the best

[@NullConflict]

I wasn't sold on the anti-Jason/Kabs bandwagon until now, though I never directly supported either of them. Agreeing to move in with someone and contribute, then never doing so sucks. The situation would be worse if he wasn't living rent-free in his family's house, but it's still a shitty thing to do. They're envious of his wealthy supportive family so they feel justified to leech from him because "he's just mooching off his family anyway." He's literally entitled to that house, they are not. They're lashing out because they're losing their big beautiful home and location over being too stingy to contribute a couple hundred bucks each month. Red flag #1 should have been their "plan to have friends visit and sleep over for extended periods of time." That's a violation of most formal rental agreements (and illegal in some places) but they were acting like they owned the house before they even packed their bags. The worst part is the revenge with fake sexual harassment claims... that's truly unforgivable. It creates more stigma against innocent men and simultaneously makes victims of real sexual abuse less likely to come forward because they know there's so much scrutiny on them for the burden of proof. Acting this way makes me question the justifications they've given for the many other accusations and rumours over the years.

[@timdixon3391]

That woman needs to be charged for false arrest at the very least

[@TheScrootch]

Agreed. What a ghoul.

[@plexyglass429]

She's gonna fuck with the wrong person someday and it will bite her in the ass, people very rarely live like that and have nothing bad happen to them

[@setsers1]

YEEEEES

[@tackytoby1219]

The fact that Jasonafex is still around and making money really annoys the shit out of me.

[@ruane211]

Furries cant live without drama is what I have learned after years in the fandom.

[@MysRyuza]

Fam you’ll learn that in any fandom

[@yelansdeodorant2026]

You’ll learn that every fandom has a drama one way or another

[@tigrerojo9685]

I mean, we allowed the fandom to spread into both 4chan AND Twitter; it could be much, *MUCH* worse...

[@Spectre-69]

That's a pretty unfair generalization towards all furries. Being a furry myself, I honestly hate drama and it stresses me out, so the last thing I want is to be involved in it.

[@cirrus1286]

holding a person for accountable isn't drama.

[@Aimela136]

I will say, no one should insult someone for being a virgin like she did. Everyone goes at different paces, and there's nothing wrong with that, and having sex doesn't make you superior.

[@Helaw0lf]

Thank you!! They likely think it is a race to get all these blasted goals done and over with before say 30. Live at your own pace and ignore the whining from societal members thinking one should live fast.

[@wubbinz]

@@Helaw0lf yeah because theyre both neanderthals that have a life expectancy that long

[@andrewb6194]

@@wubbinzdon’t insult them like that Neanderthals were actually quite sophisticated. Even making music and burying their dead.

[@wubbinz]

@@andrewb6194 i apologise.

[@andrewb6194]

@@wubbinz it’s all good man, I’m just goofing around

[@darkmask5933]

I once lived with a dysfunctional young married couple years ago back when I lived in Florida, he was a WoW addict (like not go into work for days at a time addict) and she was a bitter immigrant who had no support system in the US. I will confirm from at least my experience they loved to use me as a scapegoat for their misery, everything wrong with themselves was somehow my fault or at least exacerbated by my presence. I remember moving out and just wanting to borrow their vacuum so I could clean some if the dust off my carpet, and not only did the wife refuse, but she ordered me to get down on my hands and knees and pick the dust off the floor, or she threatened to refuse to allow me to leave the lease and would refuse to pay rent just to ruin my credit, cause her credit was already ruined. Yeah, I noped out of there. >.

[@smokeskull16]

Ugh, using the excuse that you’re a “distressed female” is so stupid, people who use that act like their pro equality but saying that just further differentiates men and women

[@slimebunny5700]

I hate it too, it's incredibly annoying and disgusting

[@9Spliffs]

Better hope you never get the cops called on you by a "distressed woman". You'll go to jail for a couple days at least. I know...

[@feebsz384]

That girl is frightening.

[@SolarpunkJackal]

wow... this is one train wreck I can't seem to look away from. Jasonafex is truly infamous now though. Next time he and his girl friend are behaving that way toward other people they should just say they're channeling their raptor fursonas's awesome power .... ( _to call the cops and report false rape allegations, Yeouch!_ ) pretty cold blooded, hard to listen to stuff, man.

[@MindOfGenius]

heh, unintentional lizard joke.

[@setsers1]

@@MindOfGenius kek

[@stevendao8303]

Pick-me twats of the raptors’ bloodline lmao

[@britnicox3929]

Oooohhhhhh oh my god if someone spoke to me like they did Bleakley I’d be going to the court to file an eviction notice that day. Poor dude I hope he’s okay

[@MirrorLuxOrune]

God Kabier sounds like such a Karen. I pity the poor child who has to grow up with that as their mother.

[@donovanlocust1106]

They have a kid?

[@MirrorLuxOrune]

@@donovanlocust1106 Last I heard, Kabs was pregnant with their child. It may have changed without my knowing, I haven't kept up with them lately for obvious reasons, but that was the last I've heard of their situation.

[@donovanlocust1106]

@@MirrorLuxOrune time to call CPS

[@MirrorLuxOrune]

@@donovanlocust1106 Right there with ya: that kid deserves better than their abuse.

[@donovanlocust1106]

@@MirrorLuxOrune or anything to do with them at all

[@pillgrimm]

Weird, sociopaths dating psychopaths. It's like he's the furry version of Onision.

[@StinkySeaGoat]

JFC, they sound like abusive parents......

[@noodlynoodle]

YEAH that's what I was thinking! i had to skip through the call portion because it hit very uncomfortably close to home :/

[@BellHillMayor]

IKR? Hearing them made me so uncomfortable.

[@thisisanaccountalright]

Aaaand now they're actually parents, so that's great! /s

[@ShiroNyankotv]

As someone who lives with family and helps pay rent, it pisses me off that people think they can get off scott free and make others suffer. Not only that but verbally abusing them and blackmailing them about certain things. It pisses me off. There's a reason why the furry community has such a downlooked viewpoint. Because of the minority loud voices that are jasonafex and kaiber. It's like the karens of furries. The furry community is mostly chill and nice and super wholesome, but then you hear about these mentally deranged people crying and whining and verbally assaulting people because they're shitty people. Don't let fame get to your ego guys.

[@hobomike6935]

furries are the leeches of society and if you are one, you need to GTFO as soon as possible so you don't get dragged down with them.

[@stevendao8303]

Giga chad right there

[@rezleroux1053]

the quote a wise man ; "don't act dumb"

[@zena2239]

*Donacdum*

[@fascistwhiterunguard7919]

@@zena2239 this was the first thing that popped into my head when I read the comment

[@cretinhisterian]

Houston?!?

[@Moomoomoofer]

Ayo my groomer I think is friends with this guy and forced me, who was 15-16, to have a character in the game amorous. I despise anything jasonafex related

[@kenetickups6146]

I'm dorry to hear that dude, hope things are going better for you now

[@kpeters909]

Sounds like a you problem

[@Moomoomoofer]

@@kpeters909 fair nuff

[@vicefurco.9134]

Oof size: large, I guess

[@sporky9861]

wait wdym forced you to have a character in amorous?? did he put your character in the game or

[@stingerjohnny9951]

Man, you gotta fuck up BAD if you’re hated in the furry community of all groups. From my experience they are some of the nicest, most laid back weirdos you could meet.

[@donovanlocust1106]

Thank you

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@donovanlocust1106 Youre Welcome!

[@NotRemmyCormo]

That's what you would think at least.

[@Super-Shafs]

7:22 "It's a fuckin' building, I could live anywhere" Okay, then move. If Bleakely asking for rent is too much, then move. I'm sure Kabs would like that, considering she also mad at Bleakely

[@liarzolizard4755]

All i know about jasonafex is that he created a game called "Bare Backstreet" which is a Nsfw game but other than that I don't know more drama is he making.

[@jackieversa5470]

or lesson learnt or bedplay or amorous, dude wow he has impacted society.

[@doctahjonez]

I learned about him because of Amorous in like 2016 or somthing

[@wolfboy150]

Honestly you might want to keep it that way

[@YupItsame]

i wish all furries a really great evening.

[@vicefurco.9134]

Ah, thank you.

[@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094]

Thanks.

[@EEProductionsEJW]

[@crowMilatonin]

I wish all “eww furry dont touch me” people a very terrible evening

[@rayloanghelli3657]

Thank you my friend

[@azureskyrin]

Aside from my previous whatever, wtf is this pacman? Shit looks dope

[@haaxxx9]

It's called *"Pac-man Championship Edition DX+"* that came out in 2013! Originally came out in 2007 for the Xbox 360 (Live arcade) but NAMCO decided to touched the game up for a bit to make it more flashy. It's on the Xbox game store (I think) and Steam for $10, but if you're lucky you can get it more than half off! For PlayStation it's sadly only on the PS3. They did made a sequel called *"Pac-man Championship Edition DX+ 2"* but honestly it's not as good as the first one. A lot less engaging and skill to play it... On it's own it's a fine Pac-man game but it's a disappointing sequel to Champman DX+. And by the way, I put about 240+ hours on Champion Edition DX+ alone and my favorite course in that game is championship 1, Highest score in that stage is 624,000. Did it without using bombs at all and the speed was at 50 at the last minute. I already fucked you up so don't even try ;) P.S: *GET THE BGM PAC-STEPS NO MATTER WHAT.*

[@spaceace9103]

It's nice to see fellow Pac-Man enthusiasts

[@MysRyuza]

@@spaceace9103 A rarity these days

[@RatRatRattyRatRat]

So let me understand this right, the conversation went like Beatly[?] "Hey can you pay rent because you agreed to pay rent?" Jas+Kab "Literally die you're ruining our relationship all our issues are because of you." That 'bout right?

[@CandyPawz]

As a Canadian, the consent law is 16* with certain rules Basically they still have the be within a certain age range, (If I remember correctly, when you're 16 the oldest they can be is like 18) and even then, it's socially still frowned about and gross

[@coldshoulder8550]

Unfortunately you are misinformed about that law. 16 is when the romeo and Juliet laws drop off. A 16 year old in canada can hypothetically date and have sexual relations with say a 40 year old if they so chose . the only "certain rules " that apply are any form of nude pictures or videos are illegal till the age of 18. It is also illegal for someone under 18 to have sexual relations with someone in a position of trust , authority or if the younger party is dependant on that person . So a teacher, police officer or a nurse/doctor if they are in their care for example. Ya laws in canada are a bit all over the place and may even change drastically from city to city such as laws about what kind of pets you are aloud to keep.

[@Shyvorix]

@@coldshoulder8550 Romeo and Juliet laws have saved a ton of lives cause it prevents consentual teenagers close to adulthood from being charged by a set of parents who don't like the relationship regardless of what the couple might think and the kids running away or worse (as is seen in the romantic tragedy). It has some inconsistencies but it's what helps prevent a bit of leeway for the court of laws to deal with as a result. Still, it provides a good baseline to prevent tragedies from occuring. Many US states have similar laws as well but not all.

[@Zeno11Salazar]

It's gross to be two years apart?

[@CandyPawz]

@@Zeno11Salazar I mean, as a 19 year old I wouldn't dream of being with a 17 year old lmao

[@xeschire706]

I think it would be better if the age of consent was 20 instead TBH

[@th4tp1nkybo18]

"Can I have rent?" "How much?" "Like You both pat 33%each" "Hm... yeah that is reasonable ^^" Its that simple

[@hobomike6935]

33% is a bit excessive. if you still want it to be "your apartment they're living out of" then you need to pay most of the rent if you're only paying as much as they are, then that makes your roomates your equals. by paying more, it allows you to have more ground to set the rules of what is and isn't allowed (and this guy DEFINITELY needed that.) I'd ask them both to contribute say, 20% or 25%. that way they're combined only paying close to half and you're still mostly the guy in charge of the living space.

[@setsers1]

@@hobomike6935 what??

[@necroximus]

@@hobomike6935 bruh

[@hobomike6935]

I’m awaiting my critics’ questions and concerns to answer them as best I can. I *have* been homeless before (hence the name) Let me know what you think is fair/reasonable below!

[@wadimek116]

@@hobomike6935 No, untill it's his father house he can get 0% rent paid and still set the rules

[@akaire2785]

“Becasuse we do the right thing” haha funny

[@gahlainrigh5927]

damn. they have such good art tho. ty for being concise. i saw a lot of other videos just trash talking them

[@Frost_the_polarian_fox]

@Cole Taylor same

[@naniwo4438]

@Cole Taylor guess we just have to separate to art and the artist on this one

[@drakologarnus7248]

@Cole Taylor drama can also be caused by people who avoid it.

[@drakologarnus7248]

@Cole Taylor its always connected to the artist due to the artist creating it. You can *separately * it however you want its still their work doesn't matter how good something is if someone shitty made it you should avoid it

[@thegman9125]

I am just finding all this shit out today and like dame they have good art but they don't seem like nice people

[@Pyrocanis]

There's a surprising amount of artists like that in a "Love the art, hate the artist" type of deal.

[@NexLegacyAccount]

You can really tell when people are being manipulative and malicious when they flat refuse to let the person they're conversing with speak at all. That wasn't meant to be a conversation. That was an intentional attack.

[@nuadha5868]

I remember seeing his stuff when I was a teenager and never thought anything of him, didn't start hearing bad things about him until 4-5 years ago. It's not much of a loss, though. Also, it's a shame so many people believe he's a victim and not in the wrong at all. It's kind of frustrating. Also, Kabier attacking that person and treating them like shit hit home for me because when I lived in Texas, I was hated by absolutely everyone but my ex and two of my friends even though I contributed the best I could since I was unable to find a job, I spent months and months trying to look for a job with no luck what-so-ever and I was yelled at like that by one of my roommates at that time, it really, really sucked and well.. it made me even more afraid of people than I already was.

[@Kuromii_Waddles]

That's terrible. I hope you're doing better now.

[@VicMeep]

🫂

[@intergalacticspacewizard1966]

I actually got a note from him many years back, if my memory serves me well he was offering to animate a piece I had recently commissioned at the time. I respectfully declined as I didn't feel like it was worth my money and knowing all this stuff I'm glad I did

[@stevendao8303]

But apart from that shitty note, i’m pretty sure your art is amazing

[@fluidwolf]

Oh no how dare the owner of the household ask them to pay rent. What a monster. How vile. It's somehow going to hurt their relationship too. How crazy. It is legitimately painful to listen to these two tear into this person for the apparent crime of wanting them to contribute to the household they are in like adults. And just as sad to hear how defeated sounding he is. And for his good deed of letting what he thought were friends stay with him that long they blow up on him, accuse him of vile things, actually file a false police report, try to drag him through the mud online, etc.

[@wubbinz]

shockingly evil, truly.

[@lotusdragonjbh]

Hold on , I know the age of consent is 16 in that region but doesn't the law stipulate that it's legal for 16 year olds to have sexual relationships with those within and below their age groups? Not full grown adults? They still are considered minors until the age of 18 where they then are considered legal adults. Jeso-whater ans that other guy not only took advantage of a minor , they more than likely still did something illegal. many misinterpret the concent law as anybody of any age dating said person when it simply isn't the case. That's part of why cosmodore's excuse don't work because he used that same law. (And the minor was still underaged so there is that.) I am open to correction here but that is what I recall.

[@sagemonarch3627]

Yes its only the minors that are allowed to consent to eachother, no one over the age of 18

[@lotusdragonjbh]

@@sagemonarch3627 I thought as much, thank you! if the limitations haven't run out buddy could still be charged. Who knows. Regardless, he's a predatory sleezebag and no one should forget that. Like... She was fifteen.

[@eminempreg]

You're completely right, so glad to see people who actually understand the aoc

[@jasperrose1930]

True, so many people seem to think that the age of consent is a give all to any age- But it isn't. Typically the age of consent is either no one over 18, or no one 4-5 years older (Depending on what age the consent law is)

[@Techno-Universal]

Actually in Canada the age of full consent is 18 but if you are under that age but over the age of 16 you can still consent in Canada but only to anyone who has an age difference of less than 60 months which is exactly five years! Of course Jason has an age difference bigger than that with Kabier so their relationship would of been illegal until Kabier’s 18th birthday in 2015! Also Australia has the same sexual age of consent laws as Canada however in Australia the maximum age difference in a relationship involving someone that’s over 16 but not yet 18 is no more than 24 months which is exactly two years! :)

[@Mark6O9]

Update Update: They both got banned from Furafinitty

[@pokkkat]

About the rent situation, I saw archives of the tweets that Jason and Kaiber made, they were describing Beeghly as a insane sociopathic predator when the poor guy just wanted them to pay rent.

[@stevendao8303]

Pick me parasites lmao

[@seraslain962]

"Love the art, not the artist" I'm pretty sure that's how that quote goes.

[@drakologarnus7248]

dont love the artist at all and i never will. ill never love the art either its a connection to them

[@vicefurco.9134]

@@drakologarnus7248 Bruh.

[@sovietnomad6651]

@@vicefurco.9134 i dont think he gets it

[@tigrerojo9685]

@@drakologarnus7248 good for you fam, sounds like an enjoyable way to live life.

[@drakologarnus7248]

@@sovietnomad6651 not entirely. What am I missing?

[@noxyoshi]

Kabier's gaslighting skills is legendary holy shit.

[@SolidSnape84]

They seem to eventually burn every bridge they make with people, this doesn't even touch on the Roxier drama, which that's a huge fucking rabbit hole on it's own But I think the main recurring theme being they tend to use and manipulate people and they can't seem to handle criticism or self reflection. This is reflected in just about everything they've done and everyone they've befriended or have relied on to complete projects like games. In fact, it's fucking amazing they've managed to complete any game, considering how volatile and unprofessional they are to anyone that's ever had the displeasure of working with them

[@cupoftea3499]

Furries like to burn bridges. You should see how many discord servers I have been banned from. Though the odd thing is some of them oddly die after I leave. Weird.

[@thefunnyaerialman]

"huge fucking rabbit hole..."

[@hellonokay1925]

@@cupoftea3499 do not fucking lump this type of people to other furries or people in general.

[@APunishedManNamed2]

@@cupoftea3499 based

[@JustAMountain]

@@cupoftea3499 it sounds like a bad omen when you leave or get kicked from the server that it's destined to die.

[@steventalvinzvestal420]

The fatherless behavior with no grass attached is displayed very strong here with this one. Well done on the video.

[@chrisalan5610]

@7:19 "It's just a building, I could live anywhere" Anyone who's ever had to sleep outside of a house would never say some entitled bullshit like this

[@Busterdrag]

"You are trying to tear a rift between our 5. YEAR. RELATIONSHIP." I'm pretty sure the Shibe's already did that, considering Jason 'joked' several times about how he's cheating on Kabs with em. P.S.: Yeah I know its a haha funni joke, but Jason would be literally the kind of person I wouldn't be surprised to hear is screwing animals.

[@ax-50]

After finding a character/fursona that I loved (cant believe how I got attracted to her) from one of jason's game Amorous, I immediately knew the whole stories of him the artist within the next day, yes it feels so bad that once I know the artist had done misdeeds, its good that he's gone from twitter and most of the platforms for a while. It might took a while for him and kabier to fix their public images, after all he did left the whole Amorous community hanging.

[@GungeonPro]

He's making Amorous 2...

[@untrust2033]

@@GungeonPro really? Thought it got cancelled or something

[@ThrashMetalWolf666]

@@untrust2033 Amorous 2 is confirmed by his Twitter, and a character poll before he got suspended, but most likely won't be in development until BBS gets finished.

[@anifsky1065]

Came back to here because of *The Whiteboard*

[@goodragon3511]

I came back to this vid because we got some more drama to add to the list.

[@DirkthePanda]

Kaiber made it sound like they were ones paying rent instead of the other way around. I’m confused as hell about that. Why would you scream that they’re doing the thing you’re actually doing? Sounds like 3D projection to me!

[@Frost_the_polarian_fox]

Why? Why does my favorites Furry artists haves to be antisocial and uncarring? I should be concerned, but i don't know how to react. I still like the art his wife make and the stories he create, and i can't wait to see his game fully produced, but i'm still conflicted...

[@8755013]

Mid 2010’s was a much simpler time for the furry community

[@Frost_the_polarian_fox]

@@8755013 Yeah...good times.

[@MysRyuza]

Why does it have to be the most admired people that end up being shitty

[@Frost_the_polarian_fox]

@@MysRyuza I also ask myself the same thing!

[@tylercolby1426]

@@MysRyuza Because often times the admiration that people start to cultivate over time sadly ends up turning people into massive egomaniacs. That's what happened to both Jasonafex and Kabier; textbook narcissistic personality disorder.

[@sparkyfolf9487]

And now the duo have gotten guest of honor at freefurall 2023 by con chair piecewolf. I wonder why.

[@wubbinz]

arent they a nazi

[@waterninten]

The line at around 8:00 where kabier said that? i had to walk away. that upset me so badly. there is so much wrong with that, oh my fucking god.

[@blue_roast6585]

Jesus Christ, the way they gang up on that dude "wheat" or whatever at 4:19 almost reminds me of how the creators of Peter and Whitney act on their Discord based on what I've seen and heard.

[@saintsheepy6682]

Wait, what? What did they do (I only was on their Discord briefly)?

[@Irobert1115HD]

neat to know: Jasonafex is now banned on FA for at least 2 months.

[@Irobert1115HD]

@@gobacktoreddit the symbol infront of the FA uername gives it away. !=banned.

[@dinosaysrawr]

Listening to Kyber rant evoked flashbacks of an ex-friend of mine who was "chill" when we first met, and quickly revealed herself to be anything but when anyone within earshot contradicted her political views even slightly. When I refused to take her side when she started bullying a friend of mine (whose politics I generally disagree with) she went off on me in a very similar fashion.

[@setsers1]

Wow. That's Low Of Them.

[@TheBonkleFox]

Jason made Amorous? Well shit, time to do something I haven't done since planet coaster: remove a game from my steam library

[@haaxxx9]

Sadly yes... I remember playing that game in 2016 though, I remember liking the writing for each characters! Too bad the game is made by an ass(es).

[@thoghtugs584]

@@haaxxx9 and y'see that's why you separate the art and the artist sometimes, It might be made by assholes but if you enjoy it then really you shouldn't focus on who made the game, you should focus on the memories you had playing it

[@MackenziiRivers]

Separate the art from the artist

[@cupoftea3499]

@@thoghtugs584 I don't play amorous anymore, I went crazy for days, playing it for like a week, then I went on the jasonafex discord and got banned later, then I looked into a fucking mirror and was like "God my mind is in a pit right now..." So I turn off my computer, boot up my Xbox, and play a lot of slime rancher, no jerking for like 3 days, just mental relaxation.

[@thoghtugs584]

@@cupoftea3499 thank you for throwing your 2 cents in and talking about something completely unrelated to my comment, I appreciate it Btw, what you get banned for

[@loganzealotbronze824]

I also remember Labs had an argument with someone on the server about something, and this dude wanted to be in the Marines and all I remember is that Kabs said that she hopes that dude dies as soon as he's deployed and it would be hilarious. The banshee has no heart at all. I think she would have been better of with Davy Jones from pirates of the Caribbean, one thing in common, heartless.

[@Spectre-69]

That's offensive to banshees. Even they hate Kaiber

[@loganzealotbronze824]

Bruh I just noticed all my incorrect grammar...fooook...

[@stevendao8303]

Banshee lmao

[@deltasquad8817]

This aged like wine

[@Looona_fan]

Remember, this was the same guy that made funny gmod videos several years ago. How time has flown.

[@Cinderpelt2036]

hoho oh boy peacewolf life is not very "peaceful" after the twitter post drop

[@timdixon3391]

Dude. Never allow these type of people into your home

[@BillieSharkTooth]

Came here after the Peacewolf fiasco

[@espresseaux]

Here after the Peacewolf comic

[@The_13th_to_awaken]

i don't know why but i love hearing about drama concerning people i have no knowledge of

[@Saturn005]

Your video really helped out the most with giving me a clear view about Jasonafex. Besides this whole topic though, I really did enjoy your commentary! Definitely will check out more of your videos.

[@mypeeisred24]

it’s unfortunate honestly, i used to really like Kabiers art and comics before i found out about the drama.

[@Spectre-69]

Theyre both also zeta furs and self-hating furries now (meaning furries who happen to be anti-furry, hating their own kind)

[@xavery1853]

Anyone else here from twitter?

[@thegigahxrtz]

I am and Jesus Christ this is one wild ride im going through. I knew all of those ppl in the cuck situation were weirdos but JESUS this jacob guy is a grade A degenerate and i bet the rest of the people in his weird circle of friends are too. I’m starting to think people like this aren’t really as much of the “minority” of the community as furries would like people to believe

[@zaenimubarak]

And to think this video could even be updated with another 10 minutes of content

[@malakairedmond5023]

"take that, lizardman." one of the best things i've ever heard.

[@oracledba123]

oh this is funny to come back to with recent events, i guess tearing apart relationships is fine when theyre the ones doing it

[@chiggyivyclaw4357]

Holy shiiiit, I used to be in a discord server with these people (about 3 years ago i think) and I gotta say: I'm not at all surprised. They always gave me super weird vibes, glad I left pretty swiftly after I got invited.

[@Finishinmenicely]

"eat that lizard man" you've got my sub

[@lizardfishbird]

This is... a deep memory. I’d blocked him from my mind

[@Mark6O9]

It'll be interesting to see the argument animated to spread awareness

[@finalfroggitapproaches6418]

Let us not forget the terrible zoophilia comic where an anthropomorphic dog gets busy with an *actual* dog.

[@MustardCrow]

Ya, it’s very disgusting and disturbing. They should stay away from animals.

[@SmuckEmOut]

Wtf that's a thing???

[@MustardCrow]

@@SmuckEmOut Unfortunately yes :’(

[@SmuckEmOut]

@@MustardCrow oh god this fandom im in is getting worse...

[@yurigagarine6998]

@@SmuckEmOut how is that particularly disturbing?

[@SnoFitzroy]

2:42 LOVE the artists response here. "it would expose how bad your 'animations' are" *FINISH HIM!* "you haven't had any training in real animation" *FATALITY!!!*

[@TheDemonicHellshark4980]

Sheesh the scolding from Ky-Ky-Kaiber? Whatever, sounded like my mother scolding my father lol. Holy crap, that’s some crazy volume.

[@red-taperecorder1521]

Jesus Christ what version of Pac-Man is that? It looks awesome!

[@haaxxx9]

It's *Pac-Man championship edition DX+* for the third time! It's on Xbox (Store), PSN (For PS3 only), and on steam for about $10. I spend over 240+ hours on that game and I have to say it's one of the best Pac-man games that I played! Try it, it's lots of fun! And please, get Pac-steps. It's the ONLY way to win at that game!

[@red-taperecorder1521]

@@haaxxx9 Thanks, man. I’ll definitely check it out. But what do you mean by “for the third time”?

[@haaxxx9]

@@red-taperecorder1521 The third time to tell people about Champman DX+. I'll smoke you like a joint in that game c:

[@red-taperecorder1521]

@@haaxxx9 That’s awesome, I bet you would, I’ve never played it

[@Localpondfroggie]

Man just wanted his rent- didn't even raise his voice once.

[@Thats_funny_yo]

Ngl, now I see why Jasonfex got so much hate. It's kinda scummy what he did.

[@TinyFoxTom]

So much drama in the fandom! In the words of the Nostalgia Critic: "I JUST WANT MY PORN!" Also, I think it's hilarious when Americans make the surprised Pikachu face when other countries have a lower age of consent _and their citizens have sex at that age!_

[@kurtwagner4663]

Even funnier it is when you tell them that you can drink stuff like wine and beer at 16 and everything else at 18 here in Germany lol

[@wilmagregg3131]

its still creepy as shitte and for once i fully support a country mocking and degrading another for having WAY to low ages of consent. germanys actuall isnt bad as its only 14 if its with another underage person NOT WITH A OF AGE ONE

[@TinyFoxTom]

@@wilmagregg3131 Yeah, but Jason's mate is 16. The legal age of consent is 18 in America. As long as it's after puberty, I'm not that judgemental about a country's age of consent. Kids make mistakes, and as adults the best we can do is teach them what the consequences of those mistakes are so they can make informed decisions. ...wait a minute. DID YOU SAY ONE YEAR OLD? WTF

[@TheInnerEvil]

@@TinyFoxTom i believe they meant someone of age as in legally considered an adult, not someone at the age of one.

[@MysRyuza]

@@TinyFoxTom The AOC varies in different states. In my state, it’s 16, but you’re a legal adult only when you’re 18 or older. And honestly I wish it was 18.

[@xecutiongaming7227]

Jasonafex’s animations are all we will remember of him.

[@mirandapanda5439]

That woman is 100% a narcissist.. the gaslighting is astounding.

[@annepamgkrth]

I know this video is a year old(I've only just found your channel and binging) but as an Australian, the age of consent being 16 has only been recent by 2018 if I remember correctly. I remember the year because my friends and I in a highschool class found out about it and complained loudly to the point we got in trouble. Unless it was changed only a few years earlier before we found out, it was still a recent thing at that time.

[@MizuSky]

It's been 16 for a looooong time. It's varied though from state to state, SA being 18 I believe, and other places being 17. Majority 16.

[@dunairy5076]

People still throwing shade at this dude's FA today. Holy hell lol.

[@dunairy5076]

I checked the profile on FA and there are comments a day old.