The Mario Forever Iceberg Explained

[@Looper231Xd]

With the release of MF:CE, I'm changing this comment to include the link here too mfce.rnx.su

[@gabornagy-lr6gw]

LooPeR231! It is true that there were earlier versions of the 9. world (made by Syzxchulun). I have it on my computer but I can't shere it with you.

[@gabornagy-lr6gw]

I could barely open the game.

[@gabornagy-lr6gw]

Sorry.

[@Looper231Xd]

@@gabornagy-lr6gw There are, but they hardly have any differences. It's better to play the remake version

[@gabornagy-lr6gw]

I am sure that these versions are no longer available on the internet. I think they are better than today's version in that they have fewer glitches.

[@Alfa_425]

I'm very unexpected when this my 9-year-old game was a fangame. Not only I like style SNES game, looking an Iceberg about history of Mario Forever is stunning. I hope you can make more videos about it!

[@walidbentaher]

Yeah same

[@xstar1456]

As one of the MF fans in the Philippines, I have my own MF fangame that is still available, developed and updated until today. It is called MF: Equal Worlds Series. It is so funny that there are more extra levels made than the series itself that have been planned. But thankfully, it is successful that I have made Worlds =1 to =3, and a demo of World =4 consisting two levels. But it hasn't released publicly yet. Soon. I also need somebody to help me fix some designs like the texts from the main menu and save game room, level maps, and theme suggestions hahahaha

[@fruityfuzzball]

it's so strange to see this malware infested fangame be filled with all kinds of myths, trivia, theories, and let alone a community.

[@Looper231Xd]

This game used to be malware-free until someone decided it would be a good idea to upload it on CNet. Right now, all of the versions, virus-free are uploaded publicly, so searching for those won't pose you a problem

[@Disbanded9998]

@@Looper231Xd is it in softendo?

[@dreamrockobfdi]

It's only malware infested if you get it from the wrong website

[@SamNaz065]

It was one of the only truly high quality PC Super Mario fangames at the time (2000's and early 2010's) which made it very popular amongst the Mario community, whether it was diehard fans who were looking for even more games after having completed the official ones, or people who didn't own a Nintendo system and wanted to play some Mario easily and quickly on their PC (not everyone knew about emulation). The Mario Worker (level and world editor that came along the main Mario Forever game) project was also something unheard off amongst casual players, it was made more than a decade before Super Mario Maker which was the first official introduction to Mario level editing. Yes, Rom hacking did exist but again, it was more for the modding/advanced part of the community. All of that made Mario Forever gain a special place in a lot of Mario fans' hearts, as dumb as it might sound it had marked childhoods, and it was even some's first introduction to the franchise (like me hehehe) As for the malware part, it was never intended to be a virus untill schizophrenia coupled with sheer amateurism hit the creator and he started experimenting a bunch of sketchy stuff on his own growing game such as trying to turn it into a franchise of its own by making a bunch of low quality "sequels", changing his whole one-man company identify into the bootlegy looking mess that was "softendo", releasing low quality updates with questionable features (I kid you not there were a "world of stupidity" and locked "Silver Stallone world", he also added some fan's world and completely butchered it and worst part, in one update, everytime you jumped, your browser would open on the softendo website, that's too specific to be simple bug imo) and most importantly allowing his game to be hosted on shitty websites that bundle their installers with viruses and spyware and all that nasty crap. That completely killed MF's reputation outside its community and it's why you think that it's nothing but a malware.

[@sternosaur]

Back in 2002 when you Yahoo searched or asked jeeves how to play mario on pc, there would be tons of places hosting this fan game. So yeah, if you were trying to give someone a virus it was common to take popular stuff inject some malware and have unsuspecting people get a virus, but that's only when you downloaded it from the wrong website.

[@Nieznvny]

Years later, I was reminded of this game and with it those "secret" levels and the lab I couldn't pass when I was a kid, and thanks to this ice berg, practically everything became clearer

[@Fatih_M177]

This is in my opinion by far the most interesting iceberg to be honest, never thought Mario Forever would have an iceberg.

[@ilyaselgourcifi]

The Iceberg: 1. The Sky 0:55 2. Tip of the Iceberg 3:35 3. Surface level 6:20 4. Below the surface 12:00 5. Middle of the Iceberg 15:15 6. Bottom of the Iceberg 18:05 7. The Abyss 21:20

[@erzol9760]

3:28 This toolbar was added in the 3.5 version, but in 4.15 installer the option to opt it out was implemented. Funnily enough, the similar window as shown in the video is also in Icy Tower 1.4 5:58 The Lost Map 2 by Mario Worker was also in MFR 2.7, also revamped as said in the video in comparison to the original version, but it had a bug which caused to not play "level complete" sequence after defeating the final boss 6:43 In fact, Mario Forever supports popular module music formats as MOD, XM, IT, and also perhaps S3M, although in the oriignal Mario Forever were no S3M tracks 9:30 The 2.16 fart version of Yoshi's Island castle theme was probably originally meant to be used in the Human Laboratory World Level 4, but instead there was used a standard 1-4 version if this track 10:12 I wonder if Banesoft is actually Skell Zoft (creator of the Kulkis game)... By the way, I know that was also fangame called Super Sonic Mario created by Banesoft, with Mario replaced with Sonic and weird level design in 1-1 that I couldn't beat it :P

[@Stankem]

as someone who's always been into Mario world/64 romhacks and fangames like SMBX, its weird finding out an entire community like this exists by chance. Is there any kind of resource that gives a summary on what this game and its community are all about?

[@Looper231Xd]

Sadly, there is still no documentary about Mario Forever's community. I do have thoughts about making History videos of for this game and I have a long documentary script lying in my archives... So it's uncertain, yet.

[@bubbythebear6891]

@@Looper231Xd Late reply I know, but I would LOVE a history of this game. It's hard to find info on this game, so anything would be greatly appreciated!

[@Looper231Xd]

@@bubbythebear6891 If I find time to finish the documentary up, then no problem

[@NotArmani30]

It's interesting to see that there's more to this random flash game I liked playing long ago with all this iceberg content. Might try it again sometime thanks to this!

[@alexicon2006]

Extremely well done video! I love that this type of content is finally starting to appear in Mario forever community. We would love more videos like these for sure. I've been connected to this community for God knows how many years now. Usually there are little to no fandoms which interest me for more than 2 months. But I've kept coming back here for years now. Shows just how to talented the western and eastern parts of the MF Community is.

[@Looper231Xd]

Glad to be the first to experiment with content in MF ;)

[@alexicon2006]

@@Looper231Xd I definitely hope you're not the last. I know you won't be. And I've been thinking of starting to make content on MF too. Well I'll definitely won't be popular or revolutionary in any way, but I'm not striving for that at all. I'll still do it because all I want is to play my favourite games with the people from my favourite community :)

[@Looper231Xd]

@@alexicon2006 The most important thing is to be passionate. That's when you'll be the most creative. God bless ;)

[@SUPERSMASH2010]

0:55 YKY REMIX???

[@RenatoLamelaPinheiro]

I recreated this fangame in Super Mario Maker 2. The super world code with the 32 main levels is: SXH-DL7-4WG

[@YourBoyAlex]

I watched this video three times over! You did great!

[@Sm64wii]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO ILL NEVER FORGET THIS GAME. I remember the level editor and absolutely loving this game as a kid cause my SNES broke and its all I had to play older mario games on. Great video!

[@davidholanda1]

I'm glad someone made a Mario Forever iceberg video, which was my favorite childhood fangame back in the day! Great video, man! Btw, I'm trying to find a Discord server dedicated to Mario Forever, but I can't find it anywhere Do you know a public discord server I can join?

[@Looper231Xd]

You can try looking at channels like TheMarioVariable or Crist1919, they have links to the public MF Discord server

[@taddeoprocopio3682]

@@Looper231Xd I tried clicking them but they only send me to the discord page, and don't truly work as invitation links

[@Looper231Xd]

@@taddeoprocopio3682 you can try joining this one: discord.gg/VwgV6GmwXv

[@LevBC10]

This video is amazing! There are so many fun facts, as someone who just saw like the thirst third of the "This Mario Fangame will DESTROY YOUR PC" and assumed it was just some random fangame video but now after seeing this video it is very cool!

[@Playeru4]

I never thought this small game having huge mysteries inside. Nice one Looper.

[@isthatsoldy]

7:51 Yes, this is real. Anaconda is long dead now, since it can't decompile games made with CTF 2.5 versions newer than build 283 (Clickteam added extra protection and build 283 is years old anyway). (THIS NEXT PART MAY BE INACCURATE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG) Anaconda was apparently the runtime engine of CTF from what I know, and since then Mathias made Chowdren as a sort of succesor to Anaconda. Mario Forever being an older game was probably very easy to decompile.

[@Looper231Xd]

Thank you everyone for 10 000 views.

[@alcestopeth]

soo much nostalgia dude, great video

[@mariohighsierrafox]

3:19 MF toolbar was actually bundled with v4.0 or maybe even v4.4

[@mechas7433]

deserved a sub, rip 169 number lol also the iceberg turned out to be interesting, by the way I really want to hear more about that great drama tho, good job

[@Looper231Xd]

I'll think about the drama coverage. Thank you nonetheless!

[@GetPixeled]

i remember seeing a creepypasta uploaded on youtube about mario forever in which some guy was looking in the files of the minus worlds or whatever and he found an .exe, and when he opened it it was just a single pipe and if you go into it, there's some distorted creepy music with what sounds like mario saying "here i go" but extremely creepy and the level design was god awful (almost everything was normal blocks, enemy spam, lava everywhere, blood puddles here and there). i remember he entered another pipe and it had "I LOVE YOU : )" written in coins and then he died to enemy spam, and when he finished the level, it showed a picture of chopped up testicles. i can't find the video because it got removed, privated or unlisted. is there anyone else who saw this or did i just have a fever dream? i doubt the second one, considering i watched it multiple times

[@Looper231Xd]

That's an interesting piece of media you've remebered. I haven't seen anything even close to what you've described though

[@NSHG]

Sounds like something made by VibingLeaf ngl

[@GetPixeled]

@@NSHG can't wait for brian2p to play it

[@MatiEP09]

also, im quite happy that there is at least one polish Mario fan game that gained popularity :D

[@TFYFTFI]

16:50 can you explain what happened

[@Margulan217]

What happened to buziol (Michael Gdaniec)?

[@efeugurYT]

I dont know... pretty sad

[@igamesthehero]

There is a polish video mentioning about Mario Forever’s history and Michal Gdaniec whereabouts - he is still alive, as he puts up videos up to this day on his youtube channel, on his Instagram posing... rich men’s life... aka his cars, watches... and twitter. As it turns out, he became a cryptobro, and was overall toxic to anyone who did not agree with him about liking a certain group. The guy straight up told that he is a weak guy.

[@Mort69]

So it's time to shine! I am Polish guy what chilhood looked like playing Mario Forever on my old PC ( I still have that PC) and i wasn't know that the back story of it it's really disturbing.

[@C1200A]

Holy shit.. I can't believe how well you did this and how your voice matches this.. grats..

[@epicstar86]

Man I knew that MF had lore, but I didn't expect a lot of stuff to have happened. Peak video

[@17uka]

welp i’m still happy this game has an active community even after almost what, 2 decades?

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

I am new to the Mario Forever modding scene. I suck at the original because of how difficult it can get in the castle levels. I was wondering what are the best mods to get into for newbies like myself?

[@Looper231Xd]

It's hard to say, but in my opinion, Space Travels is the good way to start

[@DeluxeGamer705]

Incredible work

[@каркар-у5ц]

I loved Mario Forever and New Super Mario Forever so much as a kid, I wish there was a way to download these games without giving my computer AIDS

[@walidbentaher]

I remember playing the flash version of this game since I didnt know how to download actual games back then but for some reason there are alot of fangames of the flash version that I found. I know one where you are this green block character and your fireballs are more like bullets since they dont bounce and bowser is replaced with an evil oval character if anyone knows the game im talking about then please let me know

[@Walid-mk4jo]

Its called squario it took me awhile to remember lol

[@Disbanded9998]

That mario forever font is so good (the mario 7.01 version) and the title font

[@myfilthybean511]

Nice video! I think you should make a video about the 1 year long drama cause it would make for good content like how this video did.

[@Looper231Xd]

I'll think about it, thank you!

[@myfilthybean511]

@@Looper231Xd You're welcome!

[@icebigs]

Amazing work!

[@tetris450]

This was the first game I ever played. Back when I was little, I used to stay in school after class to go to some kind of computer classes they were giving in the afternoon. The big kids were learning things about computers but I was way younger than them, so the teacher let me play games instead of taking classes, lol. There were very few games installed on the PCs but most of them had Mario Forever, and every computer had a different version. I obviously don't remember the version but some of them were veeeeeery old and had very limited content. Those computers were thrown out a long time ago. Who knows, maybe they had an older version of MF in them.

[@Disbanded9998]

When i get into 5th grade i am gonna install mario forever in it

[@theonevisionary1337]

holy shit i miss this game

[@supersebbl2259]

I think Mario Forever Galaxy as well as Mario Forever Block Party deserve more recognition. Nobody ever talks about these softendo games

[@Detoox21]

MFG in specific (not to be confused with MFGG lol) is actually pretty damn fun, i've played through the entire thing and, while some parts were def quite boring, getting overpowered guns and blowing everything up was peak enjoyment.

[@supersebbl2259]

@@Detoox21 Yes I agree with you ! I love the Mario Forever Galaxy game. He should make a sequel. But I still wonder how a one man studio was able to make this epic game. Michal Gdaniec was really ahead of his time. The graphics of mario forever have always been dope. Really great design (i think it was made with Game Maker Studio which is impressive)

[@kavekkusu4534]

Marvelous work!

[@RandomPlayer02]

Yo, cool video! It's so cool, that's the iceberg meme got into MF community. I was aware about mostly of all entries, except the discord section.

[@Somario24]

Interesting. Very VERY interesting.

[@Looper231Xd]

20 000 views, amazing. Thank you everyone.

[@maxis044]

very interesting video. keep doing what youre going, it turned out really good

[@Looper231Xd]

Thank you for the sub, man

[@maxis044]

youre so welcome, had a ton of fun watching this

[@nuketeehee640]

Hey great video! Kinda interested into getting into mario forever after this, I've known about it since early childhood but never played it, with what/where do you recommend starting?

[@Looper231Xd]

I recommend starting with Mario Forever Remake. It has all the main game worlds with included extras. Once you finish that you can start going through other fangames as well

[@basicallysnake]

The fart remix caught me off guard

[@Biggerman159]

You just gained a new sub👍😃👍

[@RandomStunt]

yet no explanation about what the hell even New Super Mario Forever is

[@Looper231Xd]

NSMF was created by Softendo in 2012 and is in no way related to Mario Forever at all. It's just a rip off of the DS games.

[@ericklostreloaded]

@@Looper231Xd It was supossed to be the real sequel to Mario Forever according to Softendo/Buziol,yet it bears no resemblance to the original game,being more similar to the Newer Mario games.The game has became infamous,not for the content nor for being different to MF(2004),but for a malicious toolbar that appeared before the game that contaided a potential virus and changed radically the user's toolbar into a Mario Forever/Softendo one,slowed the computer and the stopped the antivirus programs from working. Though unlike may people say the New Super Mario Forever 2012 game wasn't infected,but the toolbar cleary was.That it's why the next Mario Forever releases didn't include that dangerous toolbar.

[@Margulan217]

Lost clones from human lab

[@wswthemfplayer2699]

Awesome video and nice work! I just found I missed a lot of details in MF xd

[@Looper231Xd]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@NSHG]

You got me good with tier 7 lmao 💀🤣

[@mario2233]

Well done, dude. Looking back to my work from now(excluding H Series and LightningEditor), I honestly despise it. Human Lab X and MF2014 look wack to me that IS the reason why I decided to NEVER update MF2014 again. Since my absence I have lost my interest in creating new levels. But I will update H Series for sure

[@Looper231Xd]

Oh hey! Thanks for the comment! Will be looking forward to it

[@DoctorMario606]

Bro I definitely got a viruses on my computer thanks to New Super Mario Forever as a kid 😂

[@sidoupearce146]

can someone explain the iceberg to me shortly please . i didnt understand mcuh things

[@Looper231Xd]

In short, the iceberg is mostly centered around the community behind it, but there are also some facts about the original game and its developer. It shouldn't be hard to understand because it's told in a simple language and has subtitles as well

[@fivesprint]

Hey i would like to know about the drama you talked about the video that lasted a year could you do a video about it?

[@Looper231Xd]

I have an unfinished script lying around. I'd be down to do it eventually

[@Eytl]

WHY DID IT TAKE ME TEN MONTHS TO FIND THIS AAAAAHH

[@filipooos8445]

Could you please tell me, are the official mf versions on the softendo site (such as 7.02) still malwared? or are they safe rn?

[@Looper231Xd]

It's 50/50, I think. I'd not recommend downloading from there. You can download safe versions from TheMarioVariable's website instead

[@filipooos8445]

@@Looper231Xd thanks. its always so damn sad for me, how buziol fucked up a great game with alot of potential for more and more updates, worlds, items, enemies etc. he even had a growing fanbase that loved his game. At least fans gave MF a second life and thats what we can be proud of

[@luziano--4539]

@@filipooos8445 There is also a ROM hack of SMW that recreates Mario Forever based on v4.0.

[@natiakina8608]

i did not know georgians could make such good content. amazing vid 👍

[@MrWiktor15]

Good video nice work

[@-PV-]

Hey LooPer, may I ask if this iceberg is able to be solved by people who are not in the know, by the means of them doing deep research, or are most things in here first hand informations/first reveals, I'd really like to know, thanks!

[@Looper231Xd]

Definitely not, because lots of info about wasn't documented at all, and were all taken from people who remembered it

[@czlowiekokap]

I love this vid My childhood game has an entire lore, God Damn! I also have just one theory that I'd love to add to this vid because I found it rather strange to me and I couldn't get it out of my mind. But I don't wanna do it over comments

[@Looper231Xd]

If you want to share it, my DMs in Discord are always open open! (looper231)

[@besihodja393]

Was Mario Forever 1.16.45 fake or real? I googled it but i couldn't find anything

[@Looper231Xd]

Everything in tier 7 is fake

[@walidbentaher]

Can there be a part 2 to this iceberg?

[@Looper231Xd]

50/50. This video needs to be redone quality wise. I'll maybe add some new things to there, but definitely not making a part 2 out of it

[@walidbentaher]

@@Looper231Xd Oh what there isnt much more info about mario forever other then the information that was in this video?

[@Looper231Xd]

@@walidbentaher There still are some bits and pieces, but not enough for a whole part 2 video, maybe only for an updated version of the one currently uploaded

[@walidbentaher]

@@Looper231Xd oh I see

[@walidbentaher]

Well I hope to see an updated version soon

[@shadow_7865]

You have a sensual voice looper XD!😂😂, excellent job! 🖒

[@Looper231Xd]

I was hella sleepy when recording this xd

[@eelamite]

Elwood and Dave the brave. those two.

[@MatiEP09]

I mean I have Mario forever with buziol games logo so if im right its a beta version?

[@Looper231Xd]

MF games until 4.0 have the Buziol logo. If you could specify the version

[@candystealer420]

is mario forever remake a virus? (the one on themariovariable btw)

[@Looper231Xd]

No, it's not

[@candystealer420]

@@Looper231Xd i ran it through 2 app virus scanners and it says "malware detected"

[@Looper231Xd]

@@candystealer420 False Positive. Clickteam Fusion's compiler is really bad amd causes apps made on it trigger antiviruses all the time. If you are interested in a truly virus free Mario Forever, there is a new revival in the making called "Mario Forever: Community Edition".

[@candystealer420]

@@Looper231Xd is mario worker remake a virus too tho? when i downloaded it it says virus detected and it wont let me download

[@Looper231Xd]

@@candystealer420 Not a virus

[@BESTTRIO-721]

19:21 creppypasta

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of The Mario Forever Iceberg Explained momentum 100

[@C1200A]

Hey btw do u know what happened to Soig2? Can't see his world 9 video anywhere.. thx

[@Looper231Xd]

He deleted it without any reason, unfortunately. It's even unknown when did he do that.

[@C1200A]

@@Looper231Xd well shit, there goes my proof of existance in 2012

[@Looper231Xd]

@@C1200A His starman running WR is still online

[@C1200A]

@@Looper231Xd yeah but i used to comment random shit when i was like 6 years old on that video :( that was my only knowledge of my older self

[@C1200A]

btw, from what i know he also had a youku account, soig2, do u think u can find it? i tried but i can't

[@BESTTRIO-721]

21:20 conspiracy theories

[@russianmansmwc]

Look, ma, I'm infamous! Infamous enough to be mentioned on here.

[@Looper231Xd]

The man, the legend commented!

[@derpycat9347]

I don't think this game was made by softendo i thought they made viruses

[@Looper231Xd]

Softendo and Buziol are the same person

[@Bowser2532]

21:01 bro im too turkish and if you re wondering there s probably nothing

[@efeugurYT]

This is so usefull

[@talshou]

ХАХАХА меня с седьмого сектора порвало конкретно

[@GumSkyloard]

While this video is alright, it does confuse me a ton. Some of the info shared, as well as some of the pronunciation just sounds a little dodgy, or like you're speaking around in circles, or even stuttering. The varying quailty in sound between your regular recordings and the ones that were made later can be excusable, but the volume change is so incredibly drastic, and should've been fixed in editing Also, Tier 7 should've been cut entirely, as it was filled with annoying, fake entries made just for the "spooky" factor. Still, I can appreciate the effort, as I can see that you've actually tried to make the video understandable and entertaining. I think a remake of this video (with a better iceberg, one that's not confusing nor filled with annoying, fake entries) would be wonderful to see, especially with the fact that this video was made 2 years ago, and there's bound to be more stuff about MF (rumours, controversy, new hidden content) that has come out since then.

[@Looper231Xd]

It's painful to admit that the audio quality sucks. I had PC problems and all of this was recorded with a phone, not to mention this was all edited by an another person which made this harder for me, because I didn't want to bother the 3rd party too much about it and just compile my voice lines into one. Tier 7 is a 50/50 for me at this point, but I do prefer for it to be cut out entirely, lol. Anyway, a complete rendition of this does sound like an interesting offer. If I find time to record all of ot properly, I'll give it a try, although there is not much additional rumour or controversy to add, honestly

[@maximvazhov6904]

Спасибо за видеву!

[@thedragonsden2004]

Do an smbx iceburg

[@Looper231Xd]

I don't know anything about smbx and I don't like it as well

[@thedragonsden2004]

@@Looper231Xd oh ok Well smbx was my smf so uh yeah I’m just gonna leave it at that

[@ericklostreloaded]

@@Looper231Xd SMBX had some Mario Forever remakes in it,you should mención it in a future Mario Forever iceberg.

[@Илья-г8д9ь]

9:15 вообще прикольный музон, жаль, что почти не используется в фанатских играх про Марио 8:42 а вот здесь какой-то унылый

[@teamusic581]

but you rogot to talk about Mario Forever xfx world's,it was one of the best mf fangames ever

[@Looper231Xd]

This iceberg video is not about MF fangames

[@JohnzVN]

Cool!!! 🔥

[@banjogyro]

In my opinion the iceberg could use less facts about community, local memes, creators in the first two tiers and focus more on the content of the original. Tier 1 should also have the malware fact, as it is very popular

[@Looper231Xd]

The content of the original wasn't that rich enough for an iceberg to form, in my opinion, but your feedback is always valuable!

[@barrya457]

you know Turkish!?

[@Looper231Xd]

I live in Gurcistan, so I know a little turkish :P

[@mouadthegamer2389]

You need more sub

[@yourmomthner8960]

clumsy engin

[@gabornagy-lr6gw]

I am sure that these versions are no longer available on the internet. I think they are better than today's version in that they have fewer glitches.

[@OutFreak28]

This video is a mess😂

[@Looper231Xd]

Couldn't be any more right...

[@Margulan217]

Ні

[@fearofcry]

на русском нужно, локализуйте кто нибудь пжж пжж))

[@Looper231Xd]

Были мысли на субтитры

[@graysongdl]

Annoying when an iceberg video is interesting for most of the tiers, only to go off the deep end with laughably stupid trollpasta nonsense at the very end. Really wish people would stop ruining their videos with this garbage.

[@Looper231Xd]

It's not interesting that way

[@graysongdl]

@@Looper231Xd ??? What definition are we using for interesting? If I wanted to read bad creepypasta I'd just go read Sonic.exe, or the worse sequel that has somehow been getting traction lately. I don't want that in otherwise-informative videos.

[@Looper231Xd]

@@graysongdl Out of 83 comments, you are the first one to take this way too seriously

[@graysongdl]

@@Looper231Xd Am I... not supposed... to take it seriously? Out of all the iceberg video creators I've seen, you are the first one to think there's no genuine interest in the format, and that it's just a complete joke. Like genuinely, do you not think the first 90% of this video is actually interesting? Were you producing this under the assumption nobody would care, and people are just supposed to skip to the part where you recite creepypasta cliches everybody's already read a thousand times? Or is this video supposed to be a creepypasta, and you gravely misunderstood what people mean when they say it requires buildup?

[@Looper231Xd]

@@graysongdl I've never said that the whole Iceberg content is a joke, lol. You were talking about the last tier right? You got my answer. My aim was to only document every known fact the team could gather and organize it by tiers. For me, personally, 90% of the video was not as interesting as for those who didn't know anything about anything if this game.

[@lmccc]

@LooPeR231 are you working on that drama vid ? im very hyped for this kind of content

[@Looper231Xd]

If I find any time to do so. Time will tell

[@lmccc]

@@Looper231Xd ok, i hope you will find some time for that project, GL

[@boykisserbussin]

BRUH I JUST WANTED TO PLAY MARIO ON PC BUT THIS GAME IS FUCKED