The Martial Map (10-year anniversary YouTube version)

[@testianer]

Everyone involved in martial arts, self defense and/or combat sports, teacher or student, should hear this

[@michaelbuelow9275]

Ten years ago, this podcast clarified my personal pursuit of the martial arts. My original karate schools taught that learning kata and tournament point sparring would prepare me to fight effectively if I were involved in any sort of altercation. This notion is wrong and dangerously so.

[@michaelterrace8692]

I have been doing martial arts since I was 5 (41 years now). I grew up in a tough inner city and had my share of street fights growing up. I've known the info in this video innately since I was in my late teens, but have never seen it laid out and explained so well! Keep up the great content!

[@slowlyworkingthingsout]

I've listened to 16 mins of this, already hooked and the gears in my mind are whirring with thought. I was going to pick a martial art for self protection and I was viewing it as fighting. You've done the best thing Mr. Abernethy. You got to me before I wasted time, bought into the lies or made a costly dangerous mistake. I'd have to imagine this is the exact reason you put this out into the world. Well done on doing what you set out to do. Most never do. You can sleep tonight knowing you're a success.

[@aidanmurray8283]

Iain, you’ve completely reinvigorated my training spirit! All of your videos are packed with incredible information. You’ve opened my eyes to looking at kata and the way to train them in an entirely new way. Thanks for putting all this stuff out here on youtube for everyone so see. I hope to attend al class with you some day

[@thespeedybee]

Such a great approach. Knowing what you want to get determines how you train. X gets you more of X, not Y.

[@manjitheerratic5127]

This is an hour of precious wisdom. Here is a support but I recommend one should take time listen to the whole video for the first time than just a certain parts because you just listen to some parts and lead to personal assumption which may be wrong and incomplete. Those assumptions may mislead you and people who are received it. 1- PURE self protection 9:35 2- PURE martial arts 17:10 3- PURE fighting 22:42 4- Martial art x Self protection 28:00 5- Self protection x Fighting 33:40 6- Fighting x Martial art 46:40 7- Common ground between three areas 51:25

[@72cjrowe]

Well done Sir! Thank-you for sharing it.

[@dexaler9008]

When I heard this the first time I realized that I needed to question my training and my goals much more often and in greater depth. I really enjoy the fact that this is as relevant now as it was the first time I heard it. Thanks for posting this to KZbin Sir Iain I hope your MA journey continues to be fulfilling and gratifying!

[@milescoleman3150]

That is outstanding. Ive never heard it put together so clearly and in totality.

[@SenseiEmmett]

Awesome Iain, been waiting a long time for this to appear.

[@dartharaneus67]

This is indeed the best model to understand for anyone who's navigating the range of possibilities in an attempt to choose a school or a style!

[@grantoaklands4724]

After a lifetime of high risk work and studying martial arts I couldn't agree more, fantastic informative presentation. From my experience, I have concluded that training in the sport and martial arts aspects does by its very nature provide/develop an individual's confidence, which in my opinion along with awareness is the most effective proactive weapon against assault!

[@MasterBrianJohns]

Fantastic podcast/audiobook! Very well thought out and I shall be revisiting this, especially area #4. :-)

[@manjitheerratic5127]

Indeed, the martial way of self-protection without fighting is something much be more emphasized

[@FandabiDozi]

This is fantastic information. Made my path much clearer. Is there a text version of this available anywhere? Thank you

[@sakissakis7992]

This is a very good explanation! Thank you very much!

[@budocity]

Muchas gracias por sus excelentes videos tan educativos y didácticos 👍

[@practicalkatabunkai]

¡Gracias! ¡Me alegra que te gusten!

[@shrijitpaul2604]

Sensei, in India there is Kalaripayattu which very few people know about and there are all three in it Martial arts,fighting as well as self-protection....

[@shrijitpaul2604]

Yes that's true, coz people view India to be a country of Gandhi not a country of warriors which it actually is

[@LeinonenHannu]

I am a pragmatic martial artist who does karate for fun and health. But I do like the technique to be functional.

[@LandProfe]

Por favor, alguien que lo traduzca en todos los idiomas!! Exelente!!!

[@sakissakis7992]

Mr Abernethy, I have a question about this map:Could you mention an example of techniques which belong in areas 5 and 7?For example, could a Judo throw or a strike belong in these areas? Thank you for your time.

[@practicalkatabunkai]

It’s often not the technique, but the tactic that separates. What are we using that technique for? To develop a strong technique for the enjoyment of doing so (Martial Arts), to knock out an opponent in a boxing match (Fighting) or to facilitate escape when face with criminal violence (Self-Protection).

[@AhmedMido-uh3ry]

Sir how i training for self protection

[@YoukaiSlayer12]

Sweet, is this going to be included to your podcast on Podbean?

[@practicalkatabunkai]

Thank you! It was there 10 years ago :-) You can find it here: iainabernethy.co.uk/content/martial-map-free-audio-book

[@YoukaiSlayer12]

@@practicalkatabunkai Sweet 👍🏽

[@romaissaroro5453]

We can say i do martial arts for self protection. And ohter do martial arts for combat sport . Ohter for other thing . Martial art ış general term

[@practicalkatabunkai]

There are lots of people who teach and train self-protection that don’t consider themselves martial artists. That is particularly true for those that focus on the personal security aspects. I also know fighters who compete in combat sports that don’t consider themselves martial artists. Many of the boxers and wrestlers I know would fall into that category. I therefore don’t use the term “martial arts” as a coverall term as there are notable exceptions.

[@KicKandRoll666]

Very nice, that map is a good :) But i won't go as far as degrading the byproduct myth at only a myth. I would say is a solution with need for another smaller solution. Like is someone wants to listen to music and gets a radio without electricty, i wont help directly but with on only a battery added it really does help. I think its the same with martial arts. Some people just freeze in a violent situation. With some added scenario training, they might be prepared for such a thing. So yeah, its not enough to get a byproduct by itself, but with the the knowlege what is lacking, its not just a myth but a valid solution. Therfore i like your map even more, because i think with it people can turn that myth into reality.

[@practicalkatabunkai]

It sounds like you may have misunderstood what I was meaning by the “by-product myth”. Apologies if I was unclear. The myth is that training for Goal B will give all the skills, applied in the right way, for Goal A. If you want the skills for Goal A, then train specifically for Goal A; as opposed to training for Goal B in the belief that you will get ALL you need for Goal A as a by-product. As an example, a person wants to learn self-protection (avoiding harm from criminal activity: Goal A), so the take up boxing (which has winning boxing bouts as its objective: Goal B). While there is undoubtedly some cross over when it comes to the physical element, boxing will not cover self-defence law, escape skills, home security, de-escalation, criminal behaviour, etc). However, boxing will cover skills which are not relevant i.e. provoking trained responses, using the ring, closing the gap, etc. So, that’s the myth: that training one thing will, as a by-product, give you all you need for something else. Training needs to be specific. I hope that helps.

[@KicKandRoll666]

@@practicalkatabunkai thanks for the response. We think the same. Maybe i missunderstood something initally because english isn't my first language.

[@terciary]

Good try to structurize this domain. But not without fundamental drawbacks prone to confusions. For the start he uses undefined ambiguous terms - MA and Fight. There are no commonly agreed way to interpre the MA. Fight should be subdivided into no holds barred, aimed for life or death Combat, and tightly regulated Combat Sports. Combat and self-defense are quase synonyms - no self-defense exists sans combat. Relation is obviously not intersection. And even most aggressive fighting means self-defense against possible counterattacks.

[@practicalkatabunkai]

You are right there are no universally agreed definitions, but I do include the definitions I have used in the map. You Wrote: “Combat and self-defense are quase synonyms - no self-defense exists sans combat” I disagree. “Self-Defence” is a legal term and is defined my the law of the appropriate jurisdiction. Very important people know was that is an not simply say it’s “combat”. There are also many elements of “Self-Defence” (I prefer the term “Self-Protection”) that are non-combative i.e. home security, mobile-security, awareness of criminal patterns of behaviour, verbal de-escalation, etc. If people are serious about self-protection, they can’t simply learn to fight and say “Job done” as they are misisng key skills. Additionally, not everyone interested in self-protection has the inclination or ability to learn to fight. They are related, but distinct; as per the map. These videos explain more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2jJe2yQod-KnLM and kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqu4gKGqqL6KiKs

[@terciary]

@@practicalkatabunkai thanks for such a profound commentary. I dont want to answer in a rush, need to think it over. One notice only. to me Self-Protection is not equal to Self-Defence. Because the former includes precautions against possibility of aggression, while the latter deals with direct aggression lashing out this very moment. imho

[@practicalkatabunkai]

@@terciary You are welcome! YOU WROTE: “One notice only. to me Self-Protection is not equal to Self-Defence”. I agree. It’s a legal term and one in common use, so we are stuck with it, but it can cause confusion which is why I used the term “Self-Protection” for the map. The bits where fighting and self-protection overlap is covered by Area 5, but I think it is vitally important to acknowledge the key differences as well as the commonalities which is why I don’t see the “drawbacks” you alluded to in the model i.e. both differences and commonalities are covered. All the best, Iain