The Marvels Box Office - LOWEST MCU Opening Weekend EVER

The Marvels Box Office today! $47 million lowest opening weekend MCU Marvel history! Breakdown! Top Ten Box Office & Top Ten Streaming today!
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The Marvels Box Office today! Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph's reaction and breakdown to the $47 million opening weekend box office for The Marvels for Disney, Marvel MCU! Domestic, Foreign and Global aka Worldwide! Breakdown of what went wrong! Nielsen ratings aka viewership plus a look at Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple TV, Max, Peacock and more! Share your own reaction to The Marvels opening weekend box office! And be sure to make Beyond The Trailer your first stop for movie and entertainment news here on KZbin today!
CHAPTER TIMES
Intro - 00:00
The Marvels - 00:14
Overall Top Ten - 17:09
Nielsen Ratings - 19:24
Netflix - 20:41
iTunes - 21:52
This Coming Weekend - 23:00
Interact with host & creator Grace Randolph!
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[@SHAD0WN1GH]

The fact this movie is clearly aimed at the female audience and only 35% of the audience was female is a real eye opener. It makes me really interested in seeing a survey on what percent of female cinema goers are interested in super hero movies and if they are why didn’t they go and see this.

[@sophiag612]

The majority of the CBM fans are male so the majority isn’t surprising. But Marvel is *failing* at getting female moviegoers (who aren’t typical CBM fans) to see these movies. They think that they can have lazy scripts and cringey girl power lines and that will be enough for women to show up to support these movies. It’s kind of insulting when you think of it like that.

[@chrischreative2245]

The majority of comic book fans are overwhelmingly boys and men but the writers and industry have for years been calling men/fans toxic and saying ‘’it’s not made for you” so they listen.

[@bobbyjohnson1739]

It’s the WNBA problem they say women want it but doesn’t support it 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@marpj6138]

"Girl power" movies that market themselves as such have a track record of not being good movies. So if you are already not interested you will not go unless there is a lot of fanfare about it being amazing or being an event -and neither can be used to describe this movie

[@abloshow91]

Why is this even remotely shocking this is common sense no?

[@franchutekikito6920]

The absolute hypocrisy on Grace, acting like she didn't support all this to the cliff.

[@budgiecat9039]

Hey if Loki can change from being a villain and save the multiverse....Grace can change and denounce the panderverse 😂

[@junior523]

​@@budgiecat9039exactly

[@thebusmanz]

But she didn't. She was worried about the Marvels from the start.

[@Hauerization]

Lets just say The Marvels wasnt Graces first rodeo.@@thebusmanz

[@brenth8821]

I've come to realize it's really bad for Marvel when Grace has admitted that all the stuff people are saying is true. Not saying she didn't think it was true. It's the fact she's mainstream. She has to play the game. It's game over

[@ZensanFGC]

Bingo

[@mabusestestament]

Disco

[@vegetajp7]

I knew this movie was going to flop, and whoever was the writer on this movie she is trash the villain was trash, didn’t do a good job. They should’ve never change the villain to a woman in the first place maybe if they added the three marvel men that are in the group in the comics maybe the movie would’ve came out better, but they don’t follow comics at all anymore

[@cruzanassassin]

Why all the male centric movies flop this year?

[@mabusestestament]

@@cruzanassassin The female centric Oppenheimer 🍻

[@doomedhuh]

here's a truth that might be hard to swallow, the women who were big fans of marvel and star wars liked it for what it was and don't want to be pandered to either..

[@kookiecat79]

Exactly! I’ve loved it from the start. But now they are trying to tailor projects towards me, I don’t enjoy them. I just want a good film. But then the women I love die, like Wanda and Black Widow.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

So what you’re saying is they didn’t want to put a chick in it and make it lame & gay? 😁

[@griffgames9538]

​@@kookiecat79Wanda is quite alive. She teleported out of the collapsing temple.

[@kookiecat79]

@@griffgames9538 that’s what I thought but they have recently confirmed her death.

[@realebogakgobokoe468]

Exactly!

[@notefish328]

Just a note: Men don’t see movies for male actors specifically. Like, we don’t go to Wonder Woman pumped to see Chris Pine. Men see female-centric movies if the movies appeal to narrative interests. Because Wonder Woman and WandaVision are so integral to the comic book space, men watch those properties. A movie like The Marvels doesn’t suffer because it’s an all-female cast; it’s because the male audience senses the story is not the important factor, but rather the push for inclusivity.

[@dansuduhast1051]

FINALLY you've put in to words exactly how most of us feel. We just want good movies no matter male or female black or white. I ADOREEED Maleficent, I lovedd the first Wonder Woman, the devil wears prada is one of my favorite movies of all time. And i didnt enjoy them cause its female centric...I enjoyed them for their stories and their well developed characters. Just because they are female characters doesnt mean I cant relate to them as a man.

[@sophiag612]

This is a great comment & I agree as a female CBM fan.

[@sophiag612]

@@_M.... Men are also the largest fans of CBMs… It makes sense that they were the largest group.

[@TheLifeOnHigh]

To put it simply, men can see manufactured bullshtt a mile away and we won’t support it. If something doesn’t feel organic and natural it will not appeal to both men and women alike. We just want good stories but instead studios are pumping out trash that insults our intelligence and never feels real or organic. It feels like all films made after 2010-2013 are just garbage.

[@BigdogGaming-sm3lj]

Your statement just proves that grace don't know what the hell she is talking about. A movie goes has no gender when it comes to seeing a movie. Your statement is 100 correct. I have never saw a movie just because it stared a male character. The story is the most important thing for me. The marvels is a fun little movie with Alot of editing and writing problems. The MCU can fix their problems. But they must be honest with themselves and get rid of those people who the cause of this mess.

[@caffeineman72]

The more Grace talks about what she likes the more I realize that she is the audience these movies are made for, and it's not in line with enough of the audience to make money.

[@PerroneFord]

This. 100%.

[@joncarter3235]

💯

[@TheLifeOnHigh]

Good insight. While Grace has honestly addressed the failures in the MCU’s direction, she still makes ‘representation’ and identify politics part of her entire channel. She constantly points out LGBT, POC characters (or the lackthereof) in almost every film she reviews. So as you said, SHE is exactly who these films are made for. 😒

[@PerroneFord]

@@TheLifeOnHigh Do note, The Marvels has three leads. Grace didn't mention one of them a SINGLE time.

[@anerrantknight8077]

@@TheLifeOnHigh I found it interesting when she points to movies like Oppenheimer for not being diverse enough, but points out people should see movies about other people when it came to The Woman King. It’s just as much bullshit to see a movie because of its representation (instead of it interesting you), as it is to not see a movie because of representation.

[@PACIFICBboy]

I find it funny when Grace speaks facts but she delivers it in an undertone of "This may or may not be true" lmao

[@justicierodelaliga]

And don´t remember Black Adam (for instance) having that kind of defense.

[@nameisamine]

She’s just letting people down gently

[@lmc4964]

who us the neckbeard in the video?

[@Blizofoz45]

The "Post-pandemic" excuse is another case of not dealing with reality. INFLATION is forcing people to make more careful buying decisions. In 2019, it wasn't a factor. Maybe tanking the US economy for political reasons wasn't a good idea.

[@Stumme-40203]

She wants to keep her job.

[@sumarianprince]

Finally she agrees on M-She-U 😂.

[@billyiswaiting]

I refuse to believe Kevin Fiege and the people at Marvel didn’t know this was going to happen. This film underperformed for MULTIPLE reasons, and the biggest is the onslaught of poorly received projects within such a short timeframe. There was a time when people would see a Marvel movie because it was a Marvel movie (Antman notwithstanding lol), and that good faith has been eroded bit by bit. The Marvels was never going to do well, no matter what the quality was, because people have stopped believing Marvel will deliver a good product.

[@kmichael9787]

100%, burned too many times, Love and Thunder was the last time I'll see an MCU film in the cinema for brand alone

[@rubenzavala2084]

Absolutely

[@je2409]

PREACH. I truly don’t understand how the marvel studio execs are still employed with the amount of loses they’ve taken since the launch of Disney+. The answer is clear, but their response is to make more of what fans are rejecting

[@MotorCityPhoenix313]

Simple as that. Well said.

[@sandal_thong8631]

Scott Lang was introduced as an engineer and whistle-blower who went to prison, then became a joker/goofball (perhaps to survive in prison) but we didn't see him wise up and show his engineering skills in the movies. They also took the romance with the Wasp away in the second movie, having her pissed at him.

[@Winterfang]

I cannot believe that after all was set and done, it was White Men who was the main audience in this movie. Goes to show how out of touch online discussions can really be with cold hard reality.

[@thespitefulartist]

Oh wow. Damn so they really don't know their audience 😮

[@trey4285]

It’s kinda funny how marvel keeps alienating and making fun of there strongest fan base. So weird.

[@DountHead2533]

Online discussions have always been echo chambers. Social media is no different from the internet forums of the late 90s and early 2000s. It's just that today, Hollywood takes it literally.

[@thelivingear990]

Ooooooh, you got a heart from the ghostly looking white woman…..

[@sfdko3291]

@@trey4285 That's the thing...how tf did they make fun of White men with the Marvels? I missed the white man jokes.

[@UserName-vv1ws]

Captain Marvel was only successful because of positioning between Infinity war/Endgame. It was touted as "must see before endgame"

[@kityhawk2000]

Captain Marvel was also touted as being a really big part of Endgame so audiences felt they had to see it get the full story of the Infinity Wars saga

[@paulr9562]

Captain marvel was successful because they were making fun movies then. It had nothing to do with gender.

[@Art-X-W]

​@kityhawk2000 Same goes for ant man 2. Continuity is what was helping mcu movies earn so much money. The stories were connecting. But now series were made and only put on streaming services, which put some fans in the dark.

[@ItsArchieYo]

I don’t know how people don’t understand this

[@AlwayzFresh]

It's official, mainstream outlets can now finally talk about how they actually feel in regards to Disney content without fear of their own backlash.

[@thebusmanz]

They've been doing that the whole time though...?

[@josesarango3408]

facts

[@Hauerization]

Yup, keep telling yourself that bubba.@@thebusmanz

[@AlwayzFresh]

Hmmm really, have they though?@@thebusmanz

[@manfredhaupt8674]

Captain Marvel was the start of the disinterest in Nick Fury, Secret Invasion was the result of his character assassination.

[@jimmytidwell1499]

Agree 100%.

[@tomchris60]

The reality is that "people looking for better representation in the blockbuster space" are outnumbered by people who just want to be entertained.

[@Adanmacreates]

Is entertainment mutually exclusive with representation?

[@leec8988]

@@AdanmacreatesUnfortunately the way they are doing it I would say yes.

[@braydendukes6633]

Hahaha yup

[@neospock5034]

@@Adanmacreates not fundamentally, but when representation is emphasized AT THE EXPENSE of entertainment, that's when it becomes mutually exclusive.

[@DountHead2533]

Movies/TV need to follow the three E's. And its HAS to be done THIS specfic order: 1) Entertain 2) Enlighten 3) Educate Marvel/Hollywood lately have mixed up this order.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

All these years, all these failures and all the money lost.....the word "troll" should no longer be uttered. This is getting to the captain of the Titanic levels of delusion and deflection.

[@JoeJosJourney]

It boggles my mind that Japanese anime consistently appeals to boys and girls with shows like Pokemon etc while Disney can't do any better than “boys vs girls” for adults. Shameful.

[@MST3KNJ]

The attitude that people must see a film with diversity because it is "the right thing to do" is a major part of the problem. Hollywood needs to get off their high horse and stop telling the public what they should be enjoying and start listening to the audience who is not beholden to spend their money on poorly written, preachy movies that would rather scold the audience than entertain them.

[@willt3223]

well they thought it would get them gurantee money lol!

[@jskrabac]

I think it's just projection. Hollywood was so exclusive for so long and in an effort to atone they get on a very aggressive soap box. I mean Hollywood created all the issues surrounding a serious lack of diversity in the first place, and now it's audiences fault to fix it somehow?

[@Blizofoz45]

Oh they went way past "preachy". Its been heavily about making male characters look weak and stupid. It has eroded the fanbase to the point where its no longer profitable.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@willt3223no, they didnt.

[@nameisamine]

To be fair what’s more preachy and scolding of audiences more than Avatar, those are some of the most successful films ever made. You could also argue Barbie was very preachy. Those films made billions. It can be an ingredient, just not the entire recipe.

[@jonasfranzen6493]

I saw the movie today, there were 10 people in the theater (out of 300 hundred seats). After the musical scene, 2 guys walked out!!

[@emanuelrodriguez9044]

Oh, that’s bad. 😬

[@Cinemagrins]

That is honestly funny

[@Adanmacreates]

Men walked out of Barbie too, btw

[@manniking233]

@@Adanmacreates . This is 2 out of 10. That whole scenario is an L, compared to the juggernaut that was Barbie. A bunch of guys walking out of a filled theatre? No one cares. 2 out of 10? That's a disaster off rip.

[@souravdatta9990]

@@AdanmacreatesBut barbie was like an event & a one time movie, not a sequel or something like that. And barbie has the nostalgia factor too hence it succeded. Similar to how movies related to games r doing good now.

[@RossLeonardy]

The reality is that the tier of female characters who could support a marvel movie is like Jean Grey and Storm and not Carole who has always struggled. They got high riding the wave of the mcu’s peak and forgot that Carole is just not a fan favorite.

[@MrNH718]

You do realize people said the exact same thing about Captain America and Iron Man right? It's not about the characters, it's about the execution. Marvel has been focusing more on pushing an agenda than making quality products.

[@nailinthefashion]

A lot of this. If things were perfect, Ororo would be the Carol of the MCU right now. But, we have to wait. She literally became a battery and brain for an island sized kaiju recently lmao they have to make multiple Storm movies and just rake in the cash Ironically, Nia got this job with a pitch including characters you mentioned so we know they know and they know we know they know, just be patient

[@curtiszyr]

@@MrNH718if you had said Deadpool I’d have believed you . Cap and stark are fan favorites

[@tbonez7331]

​@@curtiszyrThey are now. When their first movies were being made, you can bet many fans would've chosen other characters ahead of them

[@TheMrSpawnTrap]

@@curtiszyrhow long have you been in the game? Iron Man was a C-list character until 2008. There’s a reason all of the Marvel merch until 2008 was of Hulk, Wolverine, and Spider-Man.

[@AmArtGraphics]

Representation in US movies is dead. Those groups are loud loud in social media but they never show up when needed. It’s done

[@ShellymanStudios]

Yup!

[@FuckTheSimulation]

Those are bots generated by companies specialising in generating artificial hype/success. Hollywood hires this bot companies to generate it.

[@DanteM17]

Well yea because the vast majority of people aren’t on social media. It’s a very tiny fraction actually. It’s even smaller when you leave out the people that don’t really post or anything and just like comments every now and then.

[@ion6538]

The loud ones are mostly women or LGBT men who don’t even care about the product. They just want to push their politics. I don’t know why Hollywood keeps catering to them.

[@Rafael-vg1ou]

They showed up to Black Panther, you just have to write and market it in a good way. Shazam did't have any "representation" and it flopped

[@AndJusticeforAll567]

"We need more women!" Yes, let's sideline the most popular one (Wanda) and kill off characters like Maria Hill immediately. 😂

[@dansuduhast1051]

Imagine the stupidity...she is right there, done dirty underutilized even when fans expressed how much they lived Wanda. The character is so butchered that even Lizzy doesnt want to come back. But no lets focus on Ironheart because shes popular emma rite?

[@manniking233]

They literally killed off Gamora and Black Widow, too, right when they wanted to push women. Is this some sort of joke to them?

[@abloshow91]

Sif and black widow 😂

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@abloshow91 Sif (and other characters) were underutilized in _Thor 4._ They needed another 30 minutes of scenes with the non-Thor characters. Considering they filmed enough to make a four-hour movie, I'm looking forward to one day seeing an extra 30 minutes that might fix the film.

[@tyliop9984]

@@dansuduhast1051 yep, I don’t think Olsen is coming back tbh

[@dynaguy3]

I'm still convinced the first Captain Marvel did so well because a lot of people thought she was the mascot of Marvel based off her name

[@elijahgilleanrodriguez9242]

She was hyped up to be an important character in Endgame, and her movie was less than two months before the hype released.

[@lacolem1]

The beeper that made a billion dollars

[@neospock5034]

@@elijahgilleanrodriguez9242 she was important but Endgame was mostly about the original six Avengers

[@dude247316]

I think it the first captain Marvel movie made so much money because it literally came out less than 2 months before Endgame. And people, even average viewers wanted to see how it was connected. Remember, the Endgame trailers had come out and people were hyped for it. I remember going to see Captain Marvel movie because I thought it would be really connected to Endgame so I had to see it.

[@christianogden2825]

@@neospock5034she wasn’t even remotely important. What are you talking about?

[@aussierob390]

Even grace has forgotten about Asoka....week after it ended and it's already of the list entirely

[@raymondjohnson1824]

The seething cope everytime she needs to admit the people who coined M-She-U were right all along is something to behold.

[@v78michel]

Msheu is a stupid saying and thankfully is dying out

[@baderaw25]

@@v78michel Stupid or not its the truth

[@user-vg8ox3he1i]

I absolutely HATED the term M-She-U. I was convinced it was internet weirdos whining about women. But honestly film after film. From Dr.Strange to Black Panther. Men are pushed aside for young women. Men are idiots. Women are strong. Then in She-Hulk when I saw that boulder throwing scene, I was like "Well. There it is. They were right." Disney convinced me the M-She-U people were right. That's a damned shame.

[@agoosecalledxaro6679]

Seething? I don't think she's mad, just disappointed that Disney has devolved so much.

[@vanessalore9942]

Grace is only guilty of genuinely trying to be positive if she can. You guys are always too hard on her.

[@themissn]

Im hispanic. im NOT looking for better representation. I couldnt care less. Im looking for amazing stories and adventures and this is not it. why is this so hard to get??

[@Anime4Life35]

How do you know that when most people already made up their mind not to see the film the moment they saw only women?

[@chrisaguilera1564]

Same here. I don't care.

[@themissn]

@@Anime4Life35 The villain is generic and uninspired. the whole plot is a contrivance. its very lazy writing and execution. thats why they are in trouble. i can tell right away and clearly after watching it.

[@lafeil]

Agree

[@dejajade6726]

You may not be looking for it or even care but there's someone out there who does. The trick isn't to have no representation at all but to do it well. If it's great representation in great stories, then everyone's winning. You're happy with the amazing story, someone else is happy with the representation, and others are happy for both.

[@SibsReviewsThat]

This year has definitely been a massive wake up call for Marvel and DC, worst of the worst performance wise for each franchise..😢

[@Hootie1971]

I think more of the wake up call has been for Marvel.

[@chaotic-doxxer]

I mean guardians 3 did pretty damn well but yeah

[@zackadams309]

It did but fans view Guardians 3 as the last of the glory days. Same people returned to make it and it seems Gunn had way more creative control in his movies than Marvel gives most people so you trusted him and the crew to deliver one more time on their way out, and they did.

[@LeonardoMenezes03]

The wake up call for Marvel was Antman.

[@MD19853]

@@Hootie1971How if DC did worse ?

[@iFaFo_0]

It’s crazy how any years it takes for some people to come to realizations that others had years ago. Majority of people really are so slow, it makes me sad for humanity as a whole.

[@dogstar5927]

I think it's also an undeniable fact that the MsheU is absolutely terrible for business ! 🙄🤦🏽

[@zkeletonz001]

99% of the good will the MCU created in phase 1 and 2 is gone. Feige has to re build it from the ground up by going to back respecting the characters, stories, and the FANS.

[@sandal_thong8631]

Some of those movies weren't fantastic; it sees like only when they got together as the Avengers did it become a phenomenon. Maybe if they added three guys then _The Marvels_ could have been an Avengers movie and still have the female team-up and bonding scenes.

[@stephensmelley2939]

He is now part of the problem. He is the one encouraging the direction they are going. They should have learned from Star Wars.

[@ScoobyandShaggy5554]

Start adapting good comics not the all new all different marvel no one cares about

[@zkeletonz001]

@@ScoobyandShaggy5554 Exactly.

[@ikexbankai]

⁠@@sandal_thong8631the first Captain Marvel made a Billion Dollar without any male superhero. This movie did fail because it had 3 women characters. This movie failed because Marvel’s goodwill is gone. The movies are all connected and thus each movie affects the next. The every movie before this one besides Black Panther has been either so so or bad because of the WRITING. Thus the goodwill is GONE. I even felt that recently and then they really let me down with Secret Invasion. I’m saying that as a super fan. Like y’all it’s not that hard. It’s not that women it’s the WRITING STUPID! I feel like I’m bill Clinton it’s the “WRITING STUPID”

[@Nitaka12]

Wild how the industry is trying to lay all of MCU's recent problem on this singular film.

[@FeralAscendant]

Disney can afford to burn a lot of money but the Marvels has been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

[@AllInTheGame01]

Yeah at this stage of the MCU this movie could have had 3 straight white dudes in the lead with the same underwritten script and rushed feeling and it would also have bombed cos the problem goes deeper!

[@hammerr3]

It’s just the logical conclusion to all of their poor decisions, this movie happens to be the pinnacle

[@lacolem1]

It’s a culmination, don’t be dense

[@alexlazzerly3677]

Ain’t no way you actually believe that. People have been pointing out issues with the MCU for multiple movies and tv shows now.

[@tubalub69]

I think it's because they're highlighting female characters by putting down the much loved male characters and all men are BAD or STUPID in these movies. Audiences are over it.

[@lead6186]

Did they do it in this movie?? Or do they even mention that they are women???? No. If you watch it you would have known.

[@judmac1]

@@lead6186 because they’ve done it in too many other movies, so audiences have assumed it of this one

[@tedflips1501]

​@@lead6186i meaan Nick fury isn't acting natural at all,like he isn't as organic as he was.(ruined him in the first one, invasions and that's why we keep telling people these were years in the making)

[@lead6186]

@@tedflips1501 he already got his character àssassinated in secret invasion. I dont think fury is acting dumb in this movie, you could say the same thing about Thor in l&t as well.

[@unnirajac8617]

@@lead6186. Watch She hulk. If you can’t see it then there is nothing to say

[@samestrada]

The idiotic idea that someone needs to see a Mexican or Vietnamese character in the film to feel better instead of having a good story, good acting, love, and respect for the comics is beyond comprehension

[@Romeloblade]

They can have both

[@radiantveggies9348]

Its a symptom of the huge amount of narcissism we have in the world today and it keeps getting worse. Especially prevalent among women. They literally cant relate unless somone looks similar to them. Insane.

[@Ruylopez778]

You nailed it several years ago when you said Wonder Woman was like the original Superman movie (gender roles reversed) - audiences want to see men & women working together and not being made to look stupid. It's that simple.

[@Ray03595]

It seems Hollywood can't release a film like this anymore. In fact we are mostly seeing men being dopey and women being extremely competent in just about every blockbuster now. These studios don't realize all the good films from earlier decades that are "now considered offensive", actually do a far better job at relating to men and women, and writing realistic portrayals of both.

[@trevormoffat4054]

@@BaithNaI’d call it for the original Black Panther.

[@nameisamine]

I feel like we all knew this film would underperform for a long time though, is anyone actually surprised about The Marvels opening weekend?

[@SomeBsMovie]

nope

[@Hootie1971]

I'm not surprised

[@bbtank3000]

No.

[@fx4g172]

Yes, who would have thought that an activist MCU film would be a mega flop.

[@TRIBECHIEFTAIN]

I’m surprised it’s not worse… I haven’t watched any Marvel film since 2019! 🤬📸

[@DouglasRickard]

Finally! Someone pointing out the irony of Disney attracting more "male fans" and then switching to the "M-She-U"

[@tripttwe]

The backpeddle would make Michael blush.

[@w800imaiz]

Majority of women just aren’t a fan of superHERO movies.

[@willt3223]

not a fan of superheroine either judging by these metrics

[@TheWisestWizards]

I'm so happy there is now no way Disney won't be forced to make some quality movies. Maybe even write scripts before filming the movies! Unheard of!

[@handler8838]

I wouldnt go that far. You want Kathleen Kennedy to lose her mojo!?

[@TheWisestWizards]

@@handler8838 Oh of course not.

[@josephjohnson8502]

I’m here just to see Grace admit the truth and see the commenters making excuses. 🍿🍿🍿

[@dodumichalcevski]

😂😂😂😂 Truth

[@leonthesleepy]

I mean what did they expect? The budget for this should have never been this high

[@christopher1003]

Grace having to keep repeating “AND THATS THIS WEEKS MOVIE MA-“ four times in a row at the end had me dying lol

[@II_501_II]

I was waiting for it at the end after reading your comment and ended up 😂😂😂 she's too funny.

[@tyrusquiroz8810]

i cant unsee it now

[@II_501_II]

@@tyrusquiroz8810 😅🤣😂

[@better-dayz-r-ahead]

I saw THE MARVELS on Saturday night at my local theater in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. The theater I was in was slightly smaller than an IMAX but held a seating capacity of 215 (not including front row handicap). There were only six people including myself in the entire room. Two left halfway through, leaving the remaining four. This was undoubtedly the lowest turnout for a big budget Hollywood movie that I’ve seen in almost 20 years.😢

[@Lshadows13]

Good.

[@angelarch5352]

4 people watching this to the end is still too many.

[@better-dayz-r-ahead]

@@angelarch5352 It was entertaining enough.😂

[@evertonporter7887]

The last few movies I've watched over seven years have played to mostly empty auditoriums, including Endgame and Oppenheimer, mostly in the mornings and afternoons.

[@better-dayz-r-ahead]

@@evertonporter7887 Yep, those are matinee hours. Monday through Wednesdays are always the slowest days at movie theaters. Things start to pick up again on Thursday and Friday nights heading into the weekend. If OPPENHEIMER and ‘ENDGAME were vacant when you there it was probably during one of the slow days, or after the films were already in their 3rd and 4th week run.

[@lifeafter40plus]

It's so bad at Marvel right now even Grace has to admit it

[@hdvsmith]

They are making this way too complicated. Tell a good story, develop good characters, we will come!

[@kadylady9364]

no you won't.

[@starwelters9011]

The fans were the villains in She-Hulk.

[@cleanerben9636]

they don't know how to do that

[@jackie__villa]

not true...there are plenty of films that have all those good qualities and still don't do well at the box office

[@starwelters9011]

@@jackie__villa What are some examples of good quality films inside an established cinematic universe that have not done well? When it comes to Marvel/Star Wars or anything that is a known entity, if there's a well told story, it will do well at the box office. Marvel is suffering from the double whammy of telling bland stories and having alienated a huge portion of their fan base.

[@stevenslifestyle9623]

They tried to appeal to everyone, but they appealed to no one

[@neospock5034]

Yup.

[@Ineddiblehulk]

Lol. The amount of times Grace tried to wrap it up, “And that’s this week’s movie math-“ before having to give another sotto piece of commentary 😂🤣😂 so much to all about next week!

[@myveryowndisneyroom]

Came here for this comment. Was gonna say the same thing!

[@Winterfang]

I didn't even noticed it the first time LMAO

[@gilbertoportillojr1387]

It was hilarious, I love it

[@quickpawmaud]

It is not just superhero movies that skew male it is the entire action genre. I can't think of a single action movie or franchise that is majority female fans. Women tend to like dramas more.

[@itsbeyondme5560]

That is not true

[@Ikejosh9]

​@@itsbeyondme5560That is true. Not all but majority

[@itsbeyondme5560]

@@Ikejosh9 look at breaking bad and succession.....most of them are male. I'm saying that dramas tend to draw males and females

[@Ikejosh9]

@@itsbeyondme5560 The op said women like dramas more than action movies, didn't say men don't like dramas as well. As for action movies, it's more males

[@itsbeyondme5560]

@@Ikejosh9 That's not true. Give me stats or a tv series that most women watch? None

[@Shrike1988]

The MSHEU is offensive? Why saying MSHEU be offensive? MSHEU is just a descriptive term, it's not my fault the MSHEU sucks. MSHEU MSHEU MSHEU

[@angrytoybox2033]

People like grace should of pointed this out earlier, even she is afraid of ding dongs out there.

[@RealJamieBarclay]

I loved the 4 attempts at "AND THAT'S THIS WEEKS MOVIE MATH" at the end hahaha, she just can't help herself from speaking sometimes haha

[@DavidM_10]

I occasionally use the term M-She-U, but I don't use it to be malicious; I use it as a statement of self-evident truth. Almost every Marvel movie and show produced in the last few years has been *baked* in feminism. Even the male-led projects are not truly male-led: they're *designed* to exalt women: to depict women in the most positive and progressive light possible, often at the expense of men being men. It should go without saying that that is not entertaining *to* men.

[@griffgames9538]

"...often at the expense of men being men." ^ Explain that (without trying to speak for everyone).

[@handler8838]

​@@griffgames9538dude no explanation is needed did you not see the news story about Blade being the 4th lead in his own show/film after 3 women? GTFO of here

[@griffgames9538]

@@handler8838 You know that is rumor, and you know the situation you mention was ended. It did not come to pass. It did not start filming. It is a non-entity.

[@MrValiant61]

That beeping noise you hear is Grace flooring it in reverse.

[@jamesheatherly4209]

It’s almost like the people they are pandering towards really weren’t that interested in the film to begin with.

[@1D4ever]

🎯🎯

[@lifegood3322]

Definite truth in this post! 💯

[@bai-ingabangura6388]

Or just people also want to see good superhero movies too.

[@damoncurrie7103]

Right lets tokenize more

[@jaccl4539]

"but we had a good time " ..... Thats nice what does that have anything to do with what the movie was suppose to be about.

[@chakkra69]

I'm really happy with these results. Disney needed to be taught a lesson; they got cocky and thought that they could do whatever the hell they wanted and we were just going to shut up and give them our money. Somehow somewhere along the lines they forgot that we had the choice to go find our entertainment somewhere else.

[@Regina.Falange]

your misogyny is showing

[@albertojhernandez]

⁠​⁠@@Regina.Falange your weakness is showing

[@walterchavez3081]

@@Regina.Falange R u being sarcastic?

[@MONTALVO-rf6so]

@@Regina.Falange OK Amber

[@miketapia4527]

​@@Regina.Falangewhat a dumb response. Wanda is my favorite character. The Marvels was straight garbage. The singing was so cringe

[@matthewmalovich64]

the one point I have to add to all this is that the MCU overall story has been very convoluted since endgame. Since then its followed Star Wars in telling almost meaningless stories that audiences just aren't convinced they "have to see". Not only that but these stories don't feel nearly as well choreographed as the first several phases.

[@89426]

🎯

[@sandal_thong8631]

I can't help thinking that if Doctor Strange was owned by Sony, we'd have had _Doctor Strange 3_ by now, just like we've had 3 Spider-Man movies.

[@GaryThornton-kq8sq]

Never thought about a Sony Doctor Strange movie but I know they would do the character justice. The potential in Doctor Strange is all there can't believe Disney fumbled him so bad in multiverse of madness

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@GaryThornton-kq8sq It still sounds weird to say a $900 million movie was messed up. But we've said the same for _Star Wars_ movies: that if done right they could have made $1.5 billion or more.

[@GaryThornton-kq8sq]

@@sandal_thong8631 yeah it made money but I’m talking about the character and story.

[@chrischreative2245]

None of these characters are popular. Period. They keep trying to force them on people to make you like them and no one dies. Not even in comics do they sell

[@solidshake12]

Make a product that appeals to a tiny amount of people and act amazed when you lose a fortune. The Disney cycle.

[@svenveader7755]

M-SHE-U is black girl magic

[@jumpingjoy20]

I'm a woman who has enjoyed Marvel since Captain America. You know what I liked about it? Getting to watch good-looking, hero men with love interests be heroes. My friends and I often talked about which Marvel hero was our "type" and it was fun. Women like watching men too. That doesn't mean we didn't want to see female heroes. If we could relate to them, that would be awesome. I loved Wonder Woman. Even the 2nd one! But these female heroes are too perfect and bear the burden of being mouthpieces for an ideology instead of having their own compelling characters and stories. It's like the WWII propaganda cap does in his first movie. None of that is compelling or worth my time and money. It's a damn shame because these ARE good characters.

[@TheCinemaElite]

Exactly. Believe it or not, there is a brand of masculinity that is appealing to both men and women equally (James Bond for example).

[@smita568]

I sat through the marvels and not once felt that they were burdened to be mouthpieces of an ideology. Carol isn't portrayed as perfect in this either, so imo your 2nd para is rather irrelevant to atleast this movie.

[@jackie__villa]

literally what ideology are u talking about? what makes them different from wonder womans character in her movie?

[@rena4050]

They need to make a Black Widow origin movie.

[@Shearedfield]

Don’t forget that a ton of people are boycotting anything owned by Disney right now.

[@gonzotown9438]

The “problem” is that these movies are being made for people like Grace, but the group of people like Grace just isn’t big enough to support these movies

[@Rafael-vg1ou]

They said the same thing about Barbie... but the majority of the audience was female. It just comes down to doing a great marketing and being actually well written and produced

[@neillgowans4350]

@Rafael-vg1ou who said that about Barbie. Barbie clearly has strong female appeal and was always key demographic. Superhero films appeal to men. The key is the writing and a well contextualised backstory.

[@spidy278-nm7tu]

​@@Rafael-vg1ou Barbie was popular among women? You don't say Sherlock. 😂

[@chakkra69]

@@Rafael-vg1ou Movies made for women will always thrive with their intended demographic, see: Barbie, Beauty and The Beast, Moana, and pretty much every Disney princess movie (except Wish, of course). The problem began when they started to try to convince more women to watch Superhero movies (and action movies). It should have been no secret that the majority of women do not prefer this type of content, for whatever reasons. So they managed to push away the original demographic for these movies, without attracting a new one.

[@orange999]

The fact of the matter is that movies initially targeted at a male audience tend to be more fun to watch.

[@razor60]

Grace finally admitting MCU is becoming M She U but still thinks fans are like toxic. This lady is a a walking contradictory

[@joelanthonyalvarado6947]

I was one of those ppl that walked out 💀

[@marsspacex6065]

Men watch superhero movies and they have insulted their main audience. What did they expect?

[@TrippyCommentaries]

Turn off all the men from watching your super hero movie... genius. Why don't you make a Barbie movie aimed at men while you're at it

[@raymondbritton-white3839]

Why, would a 65% male audience, offend anyone? Honest question.

[@LostNF0und]

Not only did Marvel alienate their core audience but the earliest sin was the great decline in quality as early as phase 3. It’s all just catching up to them now.

[@starwelters9011]

The fans were the villains in She-Hulk.

[@jrod78415]

how

[@starwelters9011]

@@jrod78415 Not sure what you mean by "how?"

[@alejandromolinac]

These “how” responses are just weak sauce attempts at being dismissive…. They splay stupid on purpose….

[@user-zs8xt4fw2x]

​​@@alejandromolinacI think alienated doesn't make a lot of sense. This film isn't in your face with feminism or any of that stuff. But these characters aren't that popular with the core audience, and so an average marvel movie in a crowded marvel base with characters (even if well acted) that don't appeal to the core demographic aren't going to do well. But like acting wasn't the issue this film had. Acting was fine so I don't get the idea of alienation. And while the script wasn't great, I also don't see anyway it's going to offend marvels core audience or conservatives. Just that these characters don't naturally appeal to the demographic. This movie needed to superb in this market and it just was average.

[@juans8356]

We all saw this coming. Lets be honest.

[@insidethedoors6998]

Chickens are coming home and grace has to finally tell the truth after almost 5 years of this

[@MajerHawk]

It’s like the conspiracies that came out during 2020 that we found out were all true now lol

[@alittleplaceofwonder]

Imagine trying to convinse a friend or a spouse to go see this movie. " So before we go to see this movie you have to watch at least three other movies and two Disney + shows. Wat do you say, are you in?🤣🤣🤣

[@lordfuture1]

Seeing a movie "because its the right thing to do" makes no sense! That implies we are there for THEM not the other way around. Why are we still trying to put everything in for everybody? Let everyone make what they want to see! Your budget is defined by the size of your audience. (but you can always add your own money)

[@AnonymousUser_86]

If you wanna know what the problem is, just watch the newest South Park episode. That explains everything in layman’s terms. Very exaggeratedly funny, but very true.

[@blastandboom]

her ability to dance around saying specific words like male etc is amazing. Her admitting basic truth like comics book heroes being more male or star wars being a male movie. This was made obvious yeaaaaaaaars ago!

[@davidguy209]

"Oh, mister Feige, I have a seat for you, over here. Don't worry, it only LOOKS like a trebuchet..."

[@souravdatta9990]

To be honest, I, personally, have started watching most movies at home rather than going to theaters to watch it. I got too comfortable in pause & fast forwarding some parts if the movie is mediocre. With the exception of a few recent movies which personally excited me like Mission Impossible, John Wick, Oppenheimer, I was not interested in going for any other movie to theaters.

[@pb.j.1753]

Groundbreaking. I am watching movies at home since VHS exists.

[@desertlandscapecreations577]

And you don't have to deal with rude people

[@miz4535]

" fast forwarding some parts if the movie is mediocre." *facepalm*

[@evertonporter7887]

Oppenheimer is the only movie I've watched in the cinema in over three years.

[@thomasodenkirk6444]

Disney needs to learn how to read the room. Imagine how successful a well done scarlet witch movie could have done instead of the marvels

[@jabarinath2452]

Males wants to see good movies. Females wants to see good movies. Make good movies

[@Thomaswake]

There has been a clear downward trend for Marvel and if this doesn't wake them up to make real changes nothing will

[@shafikah3340]

I find it funny how the marvels did worse than the flash when mcu fans made fun of the flash when it flopped. That what people called karma.

[@irfandagman8044]

It BOMBED in India that’s what happens if you open with Tiger 3

[@Michellex1]

As a female, let me tell you that I also want strong male characters. I want romance. I want to once in a while see a man save a woman. This Bechtel stuff has to go. It makes all the movies follow the exact same trope and they become BORING. I LOVED Iron Man. I LOVED the romance aspect.

[@upfulsoul826]

Captain Marvel is a Supe woman. She doesn't need to be saved.

[@YouTuberOnlineNow]

I don’t think you know what the bechtel test is…..

[@philippe-cb8wj]

@@KZbinrOnlineNow The bechtel test was created by a woman as a joke.

[@zoso73]

This is what my GF said to me walking out of Black Panther 2 and The Marvels.

[@Dosmthnew]

@@philippe-cb8wja joke of sad reality

[@CVal012]

@Grace now you see why professing blind virtue signaling or representation for that matter is not a healthy way to make movies or anything at all.....

[@brorican1]

Unfortunately this is the most accurate account, in my opinion, of how Disney is handling the Comic and Star War spaces for the male audience. The other issue is that men love comic book violence exploited by superpowers and Marvel refuses to show "blood" because of the young quadrant. This is why The Boys and its spin off are doing so well. We will switch brands to get what we want!

[@Dividendsmattertoo]

My god the boys is amazing and gen v too can’t wait for the boys season 4

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

Representation without reason is just pandering. No one likes pandering and this is a clear example of that.

[@F1989C]

Exactly 💯💯

[@andrewbryan595]

How is watching a movie ever the “right” thing to do? 😂 I just want an escape

[@elykalontar3847]

Why are we acting like we didn’t have representation back in the day! When it’s done in good taste and serves the story; people will watch.

[@russellbraeuer2512]

I drag my wife to marvel movies, not vice versa. Most women could care less about female centric superhero movies. Because in the end, it’s still a superhero movie.

[@jeffhreid]

Is the same Grace who just said how much she enjoyed the wacky fun movie?

[@bjjukes4969]

Marvel is losing its audience for the same reason that no one watches the Oscars any more.

[@03blaird]

Its amazing to me how they messed up star wars, learned nothing from it and went and did the same thing to marvel.

[@crashfellow82]

Whoa grace.. I’m shocked hearing you say that’s been clear for a while but it’s become acceptable to admit it’s true lol but thanks for getting here finally, and i believe you did so for good reasons, hopefully this can lead to better quality productions.

[@pirazel7858]

Wow! I can't remember Grace being in such a mood. She is a team player but she does call it out when sh*t hits the fan and a 270 million Dollar production opening at 47 million is sh*t hitting the fan

[@griffgames9538]

You gotta' quote the full global haul if you're going to quote the production cost. 47 mill is only the domestic.

[@KinoTechUSA69]

​@@griffgames9538It did horrendously in China as well. This thing is a certified bomb.

[@griffgames9538]

@@KinoTechUSA69 I said global, not "don't forget China".

[@JesusNav]

Good, marvel needed this wake up call.

[@lightquest2]

Now MCU fans know what DC fans have been dealing with for years now

[@ZensanFGC]

Yep quality control.

[@ogochukwuodii5840]

whats with grace and representation? cant we just have a good movie?

[@truecrimescotsman]

This review is like watching a bus arrive at the stop so late that the bus due after it has already picked up all it's passengers.

[@Shock-xf7lu]

When you are raised in the everyone get a trophy generation…then you are going to get shite for a result

[@YaotlHec]

Criminalizing the so called male gaze while doing massive fitness and shirtless scenes while also shitting on fans like SheHulk did... and oodles of bad decisions to turn a boy brand into a princess brand that hates boys. It was only gonna end here.