The Marxism of W.E.B. Du Bois w/ Jeff Goodwin

W. E. B. Du Bois’s "Black Reconstruction in America, 1860-1880" is one of the greatest modern studies of revolution and counterrevolution. While it deserves its place alongside the classics, it is also an extraordinary example of a materialist and class analysis of race under capitalism. In recent years, the latter aspect of the book has been obscured and even denied. Jeff Goodwin seeks to restore Du Bois’s great work to its rightful place on both counts.
Goodwin on W. E. B. Du Bois: catalyst-journal.com/2022/06/...
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[@claborn79]

Black Reconstruction is a great work of Marxist historiography. It's also the book where he formulates the notion of the "psychological wages of whiteness", a sort of precursor to how white privilege divides the working classes. I see Black Reconstruction as an intersectional Marxist work. He is attuned to the intersections of classes, races, genders, and nationalities.

[@Ianpact]

Thank you, Jeff Goodwin and Jen.

[@milanalexich2136]

This is why people like Marism no matter what the Elites say.

[@DarkAngel2512]

Nope. I hate Marxism.

[@HERES_JAWNiE]

Really should have tried to have Dr. CBS speak on this. I'll never understand why leftists spaces prioritize "white" people's voices on black topics No disrespect to him but there will always be something missed

[@HERES_JAWNiE]

Yeah, nah, I'm at 18 minutes and this guy is trash. Du Bois was 100% right in what he was saying. I get its hard as a white guy to admit it but acting as if black workers were on the same playing field as white workers is just ignoring history. White leftists really get weird on the topic of racism

[@DarkAngel2512]

Thats very race essentialist of you. Brains domt have a colour. You can absorb information the same way as anyone else

[@phillylifer]

And his point at 20 doesn't change that white superiority among workers was a real driver. The point could be likely true. But suppositions and facts are two different things.

[@theironworker781]

Yeah it was a driver. A wedge. A tool and ploy of the elites.

[@phillylifer]

@@theironworker781 Dubois saw that black labor equality created anxiety and frustration in white workers who historically saw themselves as preferred by the wealthy and saw the shift as conspiracy and reacted. The wealthy saw this flow and used it in their engineering of Jim crow.

[@jfreeman6130]

To demand evidence of the attitude of white superiority as mere "suppositions" challenges one's intellect. No personal offense intended.

[@SacClass650]

...and his fondness for the Völkisch movement.

[@milanalexich2136]

Two asian and white elites.

[@MagnificentMaimonides9797]

I read Du Bois and Black reconstruction, he's great but his 10% ideology is beyond elitism.

[@biketickler65]

Even Lenin thought intellectuals had a role to play in revolution...

[@MagnificentMaimonides9797]

@@biketickler65 yes but liberal arts are overrated. Intellectual good. Worthless degrees bad

[@dionysianapollomarx]

@@biketickler65 precisely to teach workers what they didn't know, since workers complained to Lenin that they didn't want to hear from the well-educated what they already knew, which they kind of saw as patronizing

[@doepicshizzle6465]

@@dionysianapollomarx 🤔 where did Engels come from? Oh, yeah. Lol.

[@ynotlearn4190]

Conceivably you’ve learned that he changed his position and no longer advocated for a talented tenth or the 10%

[@medicuswashington9870]

The fact of China has changed the desig

[@36cmbr]

Goodwin’s conclusions that WEBD supported ideas of classism demonstrates an insurmountable prejudice toward the socialist subject matter for me to take his comments seriously. One can easily see DuBois 10% notions as a concession to building cohesion in the socialist ranks. Goodwin’s conclusions in regard to a westernized version of history regarding Stalin is plainly ignorant and lacks a necessary closer inspection to understand where an “other than Marx” communist ideology fits into this historical dialectic that is still unfolding - Scientific materialism notwithstanding. This interview is a rather typical reactionary or anarchic endorsement of the collective failures of socio-communalism to this historical point in time. The economic short-sightedness of capitalism is well matched by a profound lack of imagination of would-be modern Jacobins. I paraphrase Lenin having said it best: our movement lacks a necessary new narrative if we are to compete with the those whom have falsified history for a political living since Adam Smith. A deeper look is required.

[@lawrencesneed7567]

Idk if this is strike two or three for me; tighten up Jacobin!!!

[@tonguemybumb]

cya race reductionist.

[@Disconnectmyself]

Care to explain?

[@jfreeman6130]

Your analysis of the need for Dubois to better explain white workers' need to feel psychologically superior suggests that you have a major blind spot. Dubois did not feel the need to explain something that is readily apparent to all Black people but apparently not to you. But then you are not his intended audience.

[@theironworker781]

What difference does it make?

[@orlamcmanus9019]

How do you know who his writings were intended for? If, as you claim, black people were already aware, why bother write about it if his intended audience was particular? I would have imagined if he was dedicated to eradicating racism he was writing to all people.

[@dionysianapollomarx]

Let's not do a materialist analysis of history

[@dionysianapollomarx]

Lol

[@doepicshizzle6465]

Learn solidarity.

[@chamolove305]

Reperations first, everything else will follow 🦋

[@debraperez7171]

Is it racist of me to have expected a black scholar? I'm white but I kind of thought oh no.

[@chamolove305]

@@debraperez7171 It’s sad but always the case. Everybody gets invited to talk about Black issues in the US except African American Descendants of Slaves. On the other hand, when something bad happens to communities made up of African American descendants of Slaves, the media call for help for “Black and Brown communities”

[@debraperez7171]

@@chamolove305 I don't think it's inappropriate for white people to study American history about who we were/ARE. Studying and understanding history of the of the horrific treatment of Afican Americans by anyone can only shed light on a subject that has been erroniously fabricated by so many people for so much time. I'll give you a very brief example of my ordinary rational train of thought. I used to be a very regular customer at one specific store of a chain business. (Fuel/truck stop) The girls that ran the counter were absolutely on it and great. One day there was a group of guys in ties and clipboards inspecting the aisles. I asked what was their purpose. Some guys from management deciphering stock flow. All I could think to say was why don't they just ask you.

[@theironworker781]

No.

[@doepicshizzle6465]

Cut the check!