For anyone talking about the "pulling the string off the fretboard for the squeal" part. Watch my new video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqXSpZeZlrB-iaM
@emiliopolvorinos76473 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike! I've watched your videos about some TAB scores and how bad they are transcripted some times. Would you recommend using scores or better try to guess what they do by ear directly?
@dmeemd77873 жыл бұрын
Anyone else remember these days just eating all kinds of jacked up? You wanted to assume it was legit but realized it was probably some guy being paid below minimum wage to crank all these books out? LOL
@robertjones95983 жыл бұрын
Dude. I was given this book when I was 16 years old. But I didn't figure out that any of it was incorrect! Wow, you've certainly enlightened me! The way you play the riffs certainly sounds heavier! But I did try that 'pull the string off the fretboard' trick more than once. Damn!
@jasondray82672 жыл бұрын
I have many of these boojs.played slot of guitar,early to late 90,s.I figured out,20 in 1995 the dive part.back then. And the g with the 3 open strinds,and d chords..I learned back then myself,it didn't sound right. I talked with 2 or 3 techs online early 2000s.they all said,they thought the author of those books,prob did slot of coke,writing the tabs.
@DaveSwart2 жыл бұрын
2:58 maybe the dude had buckers? I mean don’t get me wrong - ridiculous. Just sayin.
@Chris.18123 жыл бұрын
You're mistaken. This is the tab book for Pastor of Muppets, a concept album by Metal Licker featuring such hit songs as "Welcome home (Sanitary Pads)," "Disposable Wipes" and "Onion."
@MeatisMagic2563 жыл бұрын
The British version- Master of Crumpets.
@bryonjackson32093 жыл бұрын
The serial killer who uses shotguns to kill women he thinks are sluts version: Blaster of Strumpets
@dylanadams14553 жыл бұрын
there's a dog obedience guy in Australia called Master Of Puppies - wholesome.
@HCkev3 жыл бұрын
The actual Metallica font is named Pastor of Muppets 😅
@ericmojave60613 жыл бұрын
The interpretive jazz version - Jazzster of Trumpets
@michtarragon46653 жыл бұрын
The bass tabs book for And Justice for All is flawless.
@anderschristensen40723 жыл бұрын
what...you meen its perfekt or what...if so,i did not get it. there is all these open e along whit 7freet on a.string"also e" and the say to play it 16times in strait line
@jonaskragt30063 жыл бұрын
@@anderschristensen4072 think its a joke bcs the bass is barely audible on AJFA so it will sound good anyway lol
@AsianCole3 жыл бұрын
@@jonaskragt3006 “barely audible” might be giving it a bit too much credit
@LucarYT-zm1rp3 жыл бұрын
"there's actually no bass part here" (angry cliff, robert, jason, and ron noises)
@nebblin3 жыл бұрын
@@AsianCole lmfaoo
@SimonMillerYT3 жыл бұрын
You’ve no idea how much these videos have made me feel better about my childhood guitar playing. Convinced I just couldn’t play guitar for years 😂. Thank you, dude 🙏!
@Jeff_Kasmala3 жыл бұрын
Same here, I still never learned a lot of stuff off Justice, I had these books when I was around 15, I'm 37 now ugh. Memories hahaha
@madmarx75433 жыл бұрын
I love when two worlds collide like this, what's up Simon!
@josephfabriziodawson55663 жыл бұрын
I got the Death Magnetic tab book for Christmas and damn the All Nightmare Long solo was something to behold
@leetf3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too...never imagined that the tab was just wrong, especially after paying all that money for it!!
@UglyTheDuckling3 жыл бұрын
I was just watching one of your videos and then I see you on the next video in the comment section? Simon you really are the man.
@AndyD0705683 жыл бұрын
I had all these books (MOP & AJFA) and I genuinely thought I was just a shit guitar player. Turns out I am a shit guitar player, just not as bad as those books made me feel when I couldn't get the songs to sound right.
@albertosotelo99693 жыл бұрын
Me too! I had the cunning stunts VHS, that helped me see that everything on these books was horrible, could not get the songs from the video anyways I had to have some help, I only knew something was wrong, then, I noticed they tuned to Eb... and the gates of the kingdom of guitar greatness opened up before my eyes!!! :)
@nckhed3 жыл бұрын
@@albertosotelo9969 I love Eb. My favorite tuning by far. It's a lot moodier than E, but it's not too low and dark, either.
@leetf3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@mikew97883 жыл бұрын
It is frustrating when this is all you had to go by
@kopyforever3 жыл бұрын
forever shit ❤
@kingwahwah3 жыл бұрын
For so many years growing up, I believed that James and Kirk were out of this world being able to play what was stated in the tab books and being in awe that they must be amazing virtuosos.
@turntogod44102 жыл бұрын
James probably is a virtuoso though
@leagueofotters27742 жыл бұрын
@@turntogod4410 no, even he states they are “ok” as musicians
@anthonykargoglou7205 Жыл бұрын
@leagueofotters2774 he is just humble. James is easily one of the best rythm players ever
@joshcantrell8397 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@karpuzsever Жыл бұрын
@@anthonykargoglou7205 there is no such a thing as "ryhtm player", you are either playing the all thing or not. James is just a ok "guitar player" but amazing artist.
@JacksonDugmore3 жыл бұрын
Me: anticipating this book to assume Orion bass solo is a guitar solo Tab Book: does just that Me: surprised pikachu face
@sleepdeep3053 жыл бұрын
Did you change your name because of Andriy’s video?
@JacksonDugmore3 жыл бұрын
@@sleepdeep305 yes
@atarikamikazi3 жыл бұрын
Some days I'm happy ya know, life is good and my brain goes "hey daily reminder that the MOP Tab book made the bass solo in Orion labeled as a guitar solo" and I start to choke on pure cringe. I die thinking of that.
@logan65763 жыл бұрын
Tbf it's a guitar tab book, I like that they do that because I don't have a bass. I'm sure it's also in the bass tab book
@jeffgerdau94363 жыл бұрын
@@logan6576 it is not....
@nathangaspar49893 жыл бұрын
“I can’t picture Kirk doing this live.” Except he actually did something similar, on accident, earlier in the same solo. He’s been trying to recreate said accident every since.
@johnkren26363 жыл бұрын
I read an interview years ago where he explains that. I'm glad I'm not the only one who did their homework.
@jamofx29633 жыл бұрын
You guys are referencing the wrong part he's talking about. Yes, there is a part where he pulls the string off the fretboard on the 19th fret and produces a high pitched sound. This isn't the part he's referencing. There's a part where he actually hits a pinch harmonic and jumps on the whammy bar, and the book says to pull the string off the fretboard,, all the way to the pickup, then hit the whammy. He did his homework.
@owenm67003 жыл бұрын
@@jamofx2963 that's why the original commenter said "earlier in the same solo"
@dannicron3 жыл бұрын
Yea you can hear it in the isolated recording. It's the little pull offs after the trem picking (after the first lick).
@cleverj903 жыл бұрын
@@jamofx2963 Which part of the song is the accident kirk talks about? Been trying to find it.
@Sk0rpiu53 жыл бұрын
Love this series, this was my teenage years trying to work out why I couldn't jump from the 2nd fret to 24th fret 🤣
@joshpratt44483 жыл бұрын
Lol..
@ollie12862 жыл бұрын
Lol..
@Aluxiza2 жыл бұрын
Lol..
@Jayblox1122 жыл бұрын
Lol..
@mastrofpuppets2 жыл бұрын
Lol..
@Ceruleannn3 жыл бұрын
I often get the feeling that all these old tabs were actually written out as sheet music, and then somehow (automatically?) transposed to tabs, which would explain some of the ridiculous stuff.
@maxscardanelli61853 жыл бұрын
Alot of these books were transcribed by pianists.
@poopsebeb3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the guys back then used these little half speed machines and the pitch would change and then they would make an educated guess as to how it was recorded… it was a job with deadlines. And there were no KZbin videos to reference, and thrash metal was a fairly new groundbreaking genre
@yobrethren3 жыл бұрын
@@poopsebeb yeah, i'd figured the guys writing these tabs wouldn't see nor remember how Metallica plays them, that 22 fret solo bit is possibly the fault of that
@TheRVSN3 жыл бұрын
No way. It's a clear sabotage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGbVg42antpki6c
@genehodsdon52613 жыл бұрын
I love this whole series! Few questions: 1) Who transcribes these books? 2) Is the transcriber a guitar player? 3) Are the people who transcribe this stuff even able to play their own transcriptions? Would be interesting to interview person who transcribed this and just ask them wth were they thinking???
@gentelmanjunkie5422 жыл бұрын
I gotta imagine some can play and that sometimes they're like "Yeah, this'll really mess with their brains haha...."
@joshcantrell8397 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the same questions
@stasgasilin64813 жыл бұрын
It's true, if you want to play "Master of Puppets" correctly, you really must play D, the full chord, and also hum to yourself, "How many roads..."
@gandalf82163 жыл бұрын
And it has to be the full bar chord, not the open chord.
@SwirkH3 жыл бұрын
The Thing That Should Not Be being in "drop D" is one of the most common misconceptions regarding Metallica songs.
@wahmeister6663 жыл бұрын
I have read many in recent times thinking it's drop D. They must have a really shit ear as it sounds nothing like drop D whatsoever
@dannyrussell11683 жыл бұрын
I still thought it was thanks to this book!
@tellemstevedave55593 жыл бұрын
What's funny is it's also not in D. Kirk said it's Db in the Gibson icons interview because they wanted to make it even heavier.
@ethanpederson3 жыл бұрын
Same with people thinking Pantera - Walk is in drop D, where it is actually in D standard
@Brandonmtlhd3 жыл бұрын
@@tellemstevedave5559 It also debunks Bob Rock's "theory" that he introduced them to lower tunings.
@georgew.douche26yearsago653 жыл бұрын
Do Slayer's Tab Book. That's confusing for sure.
@thelastfeast38493 жыл бұрын
You’d imagine the tabs for the solos are just like the lotto results - just a stream of random numbers.
@AkkayHT2283 жыл бұрын
Slayers tab book is 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
@nckhed3 жыл бұрын
@@AkkayHT228 And these "official" books just might fuck that up, too! 😂😂
@darkstar81963 жыл бұрын
They are confusing properly tabbed
@thesaw2393 жыл бұрын
I have a couple slayer tab books and actually for the most part they seem right. But yeah i dont see homie being a real slayer fan...
@joshwmusic68383 жыл бұрын
Omg you should try find a Van Halen one!! Because I'm pretty sure I saw a bad one in a shop some time, excellent video though man!
@joshua24003 жыл бұрын
God Christ Jesus bless you both, have wonderful day my broskis
@BlakeSpohn2 жыл бұрын
@@joshua2400 my parents were killed in a car crash
@gogopowerrangers-gogo3 жыл бұрын
There has to be a Black Sabbath book that is completely wrong to how Tony actually plays it, surely... and unfortunately
@erikrandan72943 жыл бұрын
The "we sold our soul for rock n roll" is full of errors, wrong tunings, missing notes...NOTHING in there is accurate😂 They even have Sabbath Bloody Sabbath in the wrong key!
@Homie37943 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Paranoid riff…even Rhoads plays it wrong on Tribute
@afanofblacksabbath2693 жыл бұрын
Internet tabs are almost all wrong so tab books might also be
@nckhed3 жыл бұрын
@@Homie3794 Probably couldn't have played it exactly for risk of copyright infringement, but that's just an assumption on my part.
@HCkev3 жыл бұрын
Like paranoid being played at the seventh fret
@ChrisFerrand773 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about those Cherry Lane books is how it would say in the upper right corner "Play it like it is". Lol
@woodyg7682 жыл бұрын
More like,play it like we wrote it.
@horgecondaliza66443 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this guy is getting recognition. Been watching off and on for years. Congrats man!
@doomguy8324 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@scottglynn69942 жыл бұрын
In my black album book one of the tracks had octaves written out as: A--2--- D--9-- Instead of: A--2-- D----- G--4-- Took me years as a new guitar player to realise what was wrong and that he wasn’t playing a 2 fret to 9th fret stretch.
@JustAGamerPerson4 ай бұрын
What in the name of Hendrix have you done with tablature?
@whitezombie65943 жыл бұрын
“The tab that should not be” that was good I had to bow my head because of how funny that is 😂
@flint17683 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I'm with you all the way!!! For decades I thought I had pure gold in my hands. MOP was my first tab book and everyone was jealous of me, and I could not play all the cool parts right, thinking I had no guitarplaying talent. But now, finally thanx to you (and Ben Eller), I find out I CAN play guitar!!! And I'm enjoying it at age ( almost ) 53. You're never too old to rock!!!
@phunkym83 жыл бұрын
i love these tab book videos. it looks to me that they were made by people that know musical theory but probably arent used to metal and normally doing notations for orchestra or vice versa transcribing classical music or whatever. i think for doing this just by ear its pretty close. their mind in the right place, theyre just not used to metal music. like when theyre trying to replicate a dive bomb without knowing it exists or the high orion bass part that would sound like a distorted guitar
@ΓιαννηςΠιτσιος-ι5ε Жыл бұрын
I am feeling shit right now. I spended hundreds of hours 25 years ago when i was a child to play this master of puppets perfectly as it was in book and now you destroyed all my memories 😂
@MrJoobafob3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, palm muting all the notes in the first Master of Puppets riff is actually closer to how James played it in the original demo.
@KeithShelley13 жыл бұрын
2:59 I remember back in the day a transcription of "Shine" by Collective Soul in Guitar World magazine had a similar transcription during the solo. It said, "Let string pull off the fretboard." I thought it was total crap. I see now they meant to say, "Slide up the fretboard until your finger leaves it." Maybe that's what they were trying to say in the MoP book?
@highlander65823 жыл бұрын
its so messed up when you consider that these books cost more than the albums, $25, $30, $40.. an they didnt even bother proofreading it. maybe every band does this but its not right. i always wondered what id ask metallica if i ever got to meet them, now im just gonna hand them my tab books and say "dont bother autographing it, keep it."
@maxscardanelli61853 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see that lol. If you do happen to meet them, please film it lol.
@AhYesIndeedItsFunTime3 жыл бұрын
The Master of Puppets pre-chorus is also wrong. I was playing it wrong for years thanks to this book. It took a minute to unlearn the years of muscle memory of playing it wrong.
@mattthomas88343 жыл бұрын
Wow, I am amazed that the tab books are this bad. I watched the Nevermind video as well. Once upon a time these books were the only thing available and highly regarded. This really puts it all in perspective and tells me I was right when I abandoned these tab books and decided to learn from other musicians and eventually from internet tabs in the late 90's. I think the problem stems from the fact that these books were written by contracted educated musicians that weren't interested in the bands and didn't listen to the material on a regular basis, they just rushed through it to make a buck on downtime between paying live gigs.
@doomguy8324 Жыл бұрын
Same here.... They were into "boring" music and only did this for monetary reasons.
@superdudeman6663 жыл бұрын
For every video in this series I have learned that I have been living a lie for almost 30 years. Unlike most people (it seems) I haven't realized that a lot of the stuff is wrong until NOW! It's honestly shocking a lot of times.
@flint17683 жыл бұрын
Been there!
@schurb Жыл бұрын
I concur...
@doomguy8324 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.... holy shit... the Master of Puppets tab book has everything played double and backwards.... like wtf... suprised he didn't mention the bridge to Puppets or the solo to Orion...
@ThankfulHeart103 жыл бұрын
Damn right it's a series. Wooo we're with us Mike!
@babackd.64853 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Times really have changed
@clipzone22 Жыл бұрын
Bro playing controller of dolls 💀
@fromashestoangels3783 жыл бұрын
3:43 or so. I was anticipating him snapping that E string and slicing his finger open 😂🤣😁
@metallaholic3 жыл бұрын
This tab book made me feel like I was bad at guitar at times.
@meysiong3 жыл бұрын
me too make me can't play guitar..
@Sicktoid3 жыл бұрын
No idea how I got this video in my youtube recommendations, but I'm glad I did. I remember trying to learn some of these riffs from the very same book since my local library used to have it. I don't remember any specifics, but I do remember being extremely confused at all of major chords in place of regular power chords. IIRC, it was a repeated theme in even some of the Testament and Slayer tab books... SLAYER! I was just a kid back then and only just learning the instrument, so I was naive enough not to question the tabs in the books. I thought the makers knew better than I. I just remember being extremely confused at some of the chords like "wow, it doesn't sound like this on the record - I guess I must be hearing it wrong". Thanks for taking me down the memory lane, man! :)
@skovol0073 жыл бұрын
I used to have the tab book for Def Leppard's "High 'n' Dry" and "Pyromania". They were close (especially "high 'n' dry") but they were also flat-out missing parts. I think they didn't even bother to transcribe the solos on a few songs.
@T1GWBJAH3 жыл бұрын
I'm almost starting to think that partly reason for some tabs showing the wrong location of a note is that it probaly was written as sheet music and then translated into tabulature instead of being tab first with the sheet doing the rythm value. Like the G5 chords that are written 300 instead of 355 usually screams that for me when looking at tabs.
@sheegs13 жыл бұрын
I remember having so many of these books as a kid and giving up on so many songs cause I couldn’t make it sound like the recording, and then as an adult just learning them by ear🤦♂️
@Jeff_Kasmala3 жыл бұрын
Please make more of these, really brings me back and answers questions I had 20 years ago.
@RickP20123 жыл бұрын
This was actually one of the best TAB books in the day. Even as a novice I realized some books like Iron Maiden were completely wrong.
@kedbreak1363 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these! Learning these songs with the tab book way before the era of KZbin made me think I was really terrible at guitar. The amount of material now available on the net is really awesome - no more frustrating insane tab books!
@DanielHuman19963 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I remember learning Appetite For Destruction from the tabs, and being shocked by how differently Slash played all of it. Then I got the GnR live in Tokyo and meticulously watched his hands, and relearned the songs. The tablature and notation is never perfect, but it is very helpful. Just be prepared to read between the lines!
@poemonroe88483 жыл бұрын
Leper messiah, the first song they had us play live in music school. I'm excited to see more of your channel. It hurt knowing these tab books were wrong growing up.
@adamthirdbourne3243 жыл бұрын
Thanks for setting the record straight Mike. Argh!!! Sucks that those were the only referrences we had in the 80's. I always knew that those TAB books were more misleading than helpful and not what original artists did.
@pthibault6302 жыл бұрын
Oh, and also... the way they transcribed the chorus for Master of Puppets... I actually still to this day play a hybrid version of the way the book has it, and the way its actually played. Like the part where it shows a full D chord being played... I always kinda liked the way that sounded. But instead of the full D, I leave out the high F# and only play the chord through the D on the B string.
@Sw87sw873 жыл бұрын
I had this book when I was 14, still got it actually. Even then I knew a lot of stuff in the book was wrong and just odd. I just played it how I thought it was played and used the book as a guideline basically.
@PeterJohnson763 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I just wanted to say this was a great video. I'm 45 and have been playing since I was 17... I bought the Master of Puppets book when I first started playing. For people who are new to guitar, unfortunately these books can give people a real bum steer and you are also correct that back then there were certainly no you tubes or much in the way of other resources to help people. Not only did I and others spent countless hours trying to play parts tabbed wrong and almost impossible to play properly, we now have to spend time learning them with more accurate tabs fighting against 20 years of muscle memory... it's really poor given these cherry lane books are supposed to be authentic,.
@rafaelvalimfernandes3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who plays metallica should know that most chords are fifth rather than standard chords. So it helps a lot to know that there is a transcription error.
@chrispercival97893 жыл бұрын
The first transcription book i ever bought had "Ace of Spades" in Eb and had clearly been worked out by someone on a piano. Started my scepticism of formal methods on day 1.
@Harrythe1st3 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that they didn't want us to learn it correctly 😅. Back in the the 80's metal was bad for you😸
@CosmicHarmony583 жыл бұрын
Facts bruh
@rippywilliams21393 жыл бұрын
I gave up learning to play a lot of them songs in the lid 90s because of that tab book. Wow. I'm gonna go back and learnt these songs now. Thanks for this video. I just thought James had some magic to the way he played it that i didn't.
@justinvallange3 жыл бұрын
The major barre chords make a little more sense when you think about how the major 3rd is one of the stronger overtones in the series and and the album's very distorted tone brings that overtone out pretty clearly. It's not pronounced enough to hear it as a real note being played but technically it can be heard so it's not as crazy as it originally seems
@thewickedwizard3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video. Now I know why I struggled to learn so many of these riffs when I got into guitar. I still have the tab book but I might go chuck it in the recycling now. Cheers!
@tommurrayGTR3 жыл бұрын
The harmonic /pick up / dive bomb thing was a mistake Kirk made tracking the solo and loved it so they kept it in knowing that it couldn't be reproduced live. But yeah, I remember trying to learn MOP from this book and wondering why it sounded so shit🤣
@TheArtofGuitar3 жыл бұрын
Actually it’s misunderstood. The part he pulls off the fretboard was right before the harmonic whammy bar part. You can hear it as he’s doing his phrase.
@tommurrayGTR3 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtofGuitar Ah my mistake! of course you knew that🤣
@phadrus3 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtofGuitar I just learned something. Always thought the part where he pulled the string off was the harmonic too. Dang I may have a chance of playing this now LOL
@producermind90303 жыл бұрын
Definitely a blast from a past. Those tab books were instrumental in my guitar learnings. Well done.
@noahdguitar14543 жыл бұрын
I love the bad tab series keep it up
@Mrcloc2 ай бұрын
I have a similar tab book - has the same thing about pulling the string and fretting it on the pickup. Taught me a lot! But common sense must prevail. I always played the interlude bit from Leper Messiah jumping around, never gave it much though. It's a super fun riff to play - probably my favourite of all.
@kodemasterx3 жыл бұрын
It is books like those that make you quit playing sometimes... Back in the 2010s I had a book with many different songs and sometimes I would find a load of BS that would make my fingers cry in agony.
@meysiong3 жыл бұрын
that's true..😭😭
@skeletonrowdie17683 жыл бұрын
I love the pace of your videos man they're like snacks
@aek40183 жыл бұрын
Love your "shitty tab books" series :) However on the original recording Kirk actually pulled the string off the fretboard by accident :) Pretty sure they also butchered the main Damage, Inc. riff, and more stuff.
@tylercady39853 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it wasn't during that part. If I remember correctly he pulled the string off the fretboard during the faster climbing part
@Kernelcruncher3 жыл бұрын
Kirk did pull off the string, but it was during the quick descending lick before the harmonic, but ur right he did
@brunoalves39582 жыл бұрын
Man, your guitar tone is amazingly tight, heavy and beautiful.
@greggrozdanis57373 жыл бұрын
“Ya that sounds really good” “And this is how it should be played” “Nevermind, that was terrible”
@martonbalint48172 жыл бұрын
5:21 “if you’re 555 then I’m 666”
@SaintsCheat3 жыл бұрын
The ABSOLUTE worst one was Alice Cooper’s Trash album book. I really wanted to learn the song Poison and I had zero knowledge other than tabs…those chords ..were just unreal 😂
@Gurra88 Жыл бұрын
So the tab book was.... Trash? I'll show myself out.
@chupacabra84793 жыл бұрын
I think I like this series so much because it takes so much experience and talent to play something wrong perfectly out of a book just to show as an example. Extremely impressive.
@doomguy8324 Жыл бұрын
You caught that... much agreed.
@soupalex3 жыл бұрын
ngl i kind of like some of the voicings they've written for "master". never liked crüe, but that extra b on the e5 chord sounds pretty cool.
@limsniff3 жыл бұрын
Haha! About Sanitarium. The part you showed. My book says the EXACT same thing. I had a gut feeling that something was not right. Thanks for clearing that up.
@misterfuzzyflippers3 жыл бұрын
"that's something Megadeth would do" Somewhere Dave is agreeing with you.
@dumpsterplayer51333 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a Mustaine riff that they didn't credit him for. Over the years they've slowly changed their tune from "nope he has nothing to do with it" to "ok maybe he inspired it", while sounding nothing like anything they've wrote before or since.
@danielalmeida73823 жыл бұрын
@@dumpsterplayer5133 yeah but that was a mistake on the tab book not how the actual riff is played
@gergoretvari63733 жыл бұрын
it was a Mustaine riff
@ignacius84663 жыл бұрын
Mustaine mentioned that they used one of his riffs in that section so I wouldn't be surprised. I also would be surprised if Mustaine's memory is off.
@ignacius84663 жыл бұрын
Also forgot I think he said it was from an earlier song they were writing titled The Hills Ran Red.
@Zakk_Ross3 жыл бұрын
Also you play so well and it makes me happy. Makes me wanna get my shit together and practice as much as I can
@bsal77363 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to me with the led zeppelin bass tab book. Even my bass teacher was confused, and checked it out and saw so many mistakes.
@smarkalet90783 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this series. Vindication decades later still feels good.
@mark-granger3 жыл бұрын
I recently got hold of this version after learning from the UK release. Even using both, slightly different, transcriptions, you don't get fully accurate tab.
@beanman22063 жыл бұрын
i have this exact tab book!!! at first i was impressed at how well set out the book is and then after a while i started finding so many holes and notes that are wrong
@ThankfulHeart103 жыл бұрын
Holy crap this otta be good. Just read the Title this gonna be epic 😅
@Brandonmtlhd3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had this and many other iconic albums' tab books. In fact, I think I might still have them somewhere. I remember getting frustrated trying to learn some of my favorite songs. It took some time to find out that even though they were the "official" tab books, they were still wildly inaccurate. Goes to show, there really are no shortcuts to learning and mastering your craft.
@prometheustv65583 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why some tab books have you do full chords rather than power chords.
@216trixie3 жыл бұрын
Because they are wrong and that's the point of the video?
@adboss1453 жыл бұрын
Because they assume that you are playing alone and wants you to cover more frequency spectrum for a fuller sound maybe.
@K1llerTunes3 жыл бұрын
My bet is that it’s transcribed by non-guitarists using something like guitar pro to translate the notation to tab.
@MrGul3 жыл бұрын
@@K1llerTunes Absolutely not! You couldn't be further from the truth. All of these tab books mentioned in this video series were made before Guitar Pro was even invented. The transcribers knew more about notation than tab back then. There are a few factors that make the end result so bad for these books. The first one being "time = money" which means that the company wants the product to be done as quickly as possible, which leads the transcribers to hurry up getting finished and that of course means that they often make many mistakes. Another one is that back in the days of these books, you couldn't just go online and get live footage for how bands played their songs, so there was not as much information like that available. Yet another reason is that sometimes the transcribers working on these books weren't necessarily all that familiar with the genre, which makes things much harder. That fact, in combination with how distortion works, makes it somewhat understandable that they could hear a distorted power chord and imagine that it's a full major chord, simply because distortion introduces harmonics to the sound (check out "harmonic distortion" if you want to learn more about how that works). These added harmonics are in no way near as impactful as the actual notes played, but it's sometimes enough to fool the ear that a major chord is played when it's actually just a heavily distorted power chord. With more experience in the genre, you'd know that, and you'd be less inclined to make that mistake. The bottom line is that the companies selling these books don't really care if the end result is 100% accurate, they just want the product out on the market as quickly as possible to make as much money as possible, and enough people are bying the books to justify their actions even though many people complain. Thankfully, newer companies like Sheet Happens are working together with the artists to create more accurate tab books, but the downside (at least for someone old-school like me) is that they only have the rhythmic tab staff from Guitar Pro, no standard notation.
@MrGul3 жыл бұрын
@@adboss145 No, that's not what they're doing. It has to do with how distortion works. It introduces harmonics to the sound (check out "harmonic distortion" if you want to learn more about how that works). These added harmonics are in no way near as impactful as the actual notes played, but it's sometimes enough to fool the ear that a major chord is played when it's actually just a heavily distorted power chord, and this is especially true if you aren't that familiar with the genre of music that you're transcribing.
@JawTooth Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with Black Sabbath tab books. You should see how they start Iron Man! Lol
@ajizzle4rizzle3 жыл бұрын
"The Tab that Should Not Be" Lmao 😂 soo good
@eleonn3 жыл бұрын
The harmonic in Master of Puppets at 3:00, well actually the producer or engineer have confirmed that it was a mistake of Kirk but they liked how it end up so they kept it in the song. What the producer (it was him) said about the mistake kind of goes with what the tab says
@avaris12803 жыл бұрын
Well. Kirk has said interviews that the high harmonic in the solo was made by accident when he bent the string off the fretboard and caught the fret and he never has been able to reproduce it. So that part was technically right.
@calamityjohnny16463 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I read that in a guitar mag interview with Kirk right after MOP was released.
@GustavoShrapnel2 жыл бұрын
I remember that fretting against the pick up thing in the book on Master of Puppets. Totally thought I had it when I pulled the string down, definitely did not, lol.
@pthibault6302 жыл бұрын
Dude... that jump in the Orion solo had me absolutely flummoxed as a kid learning these songs. I always thought "why in the hell would he do that??". But I was young and naive and actually believed that the artists themselves provided these transcriptions. (Give me a break. I was really young) So I never even thought to question it. 25 years later, I'm older and slightly wiser. I've worked out the correct way to play most of these riffs on my own, but this video helped me figure out a couple I was still missing.
@DelaryHap3 жыл бұрын
10:38 Rage Against The Metallica
@cesarefrancescoriggi3 жыл бұрын
I freakin' love this kind of video, man! Keep goin'
@Archangel893 жыл бұрын
Ozzy and Randy Tribute tab book is really spot on its almost scary (its the first tab book I purchased) and my next purchase was Metallica MOP and I knew instantly that it was incorrect. Battery fooled us all because it is almost accurate so it makes you think the rest of the tabs in MOP are good to go.
@LDXReal3 жыл бұрын
5:07 had me DEAD LMAOOO “The Thing That Should Not Be lite” by far most accurate description
@m.r.44553 жыл бұрын
It’s funny because I have just bought the full set of Metallica guitar’ books (used) in order to have the official way to play everything. How naive can I be????
@joelglanton65313 жыл бұрын
Idk about the other albums but the master of puppets book has been revised since at least 2009
@meysiong3 жыл бұрын
need to renew metallica all guitar tabs books..😭
@woodyg7682 жыл бұрын
I bought mine new back in the day, and I've been playing some shit wrong ever since,your not alone bro,lol.
@aldomichel9473 Жыл бұрын
I know what it feels like, back when I was starting to play bass I tried to learn songs by reading really bad written tablatures, it didn’t take too long for me to realize it would be better if I just tried to learn those same songs by ear which helped me to develope a very good hearing ability over time.
@fatihmfajar53033 жыл бұрын
Youre not hetfield until you hold the pick with 3 finger
@dwainphillips3 жыл бұрын
Had this book and the master of puppets tab was the same as what was in guitar for practicing musician magazine. I had learned most of it a year later and knew it was wrong at 14 and 15 year's old. Great lesson as always sir, great time in life and music that 84 to 88 Era was really good.
@BATTIS943 жыл бұрын
Wait, you're supposed to play the intro to Master of Puppets all over the E string? Fuck me, I didn't know.
@jasonweinberg9323 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Your eye for detail is commendable!
@Glintingbeetle3 жыл бұрын
I remember buying a dream Theater tab book of 'Images and words' Most of it (e.g. the Time signatures) was wrong, but can I blame the people who transcribed it?
@leopoldovasquez9353 жыл бұрын
Try Evan Bradley’s tabs…spot on (he is on you tube)
@stewbacca20754 ай бұрын
3 years later I’m here bc im just now trying to learn it. And man I do remember the tabs of stuff being weird back in the day. Problem is I probably didn’t have confidence enough to believe the writers of the book could be wrong and I was right. Anyway I commented bc of the happy bar chord. I laughed really hard at that. You are awesome dude. 🤟
@josevasquez82133 жыл бұрын
Nice guitars all of them look cool
@spike0079803 жыл бұрын
Won't lie, some of the tabs i've read or attempted to play definitely made me scratch my head. Seeing this and seeing you perform the songs, makes me feel better that, I wasn't alone on the head scratching.
@caelmcleish12123 жыл бұрын
Man, those major chords just do not feel right. How wrong is Damage Inc. though?
@guitarwizard9873 жыл бұрын
I have this exact tab book and that fretboard jump is insane. I was always like no way
@tomt.57993 жыл бұрын
Great explanations as usually. But regarding the opening descending riff of Master of Puppets, shouldn't there be pull offs on all the E string notes? It doesn't sound as if it's played plainly 12-11 and 7-6-5-4-3-2, I can hear pull offs to 0 on every note, is it right or am I imagining it?
@gentelmanjunkie5422 жыл бұрын
Usually, especially in fast metal I'm finding as I learn, that efficiency is usually what determines how something is played and where on the fret board it's played from one note to the next, and it's already hard to make it sound just right playing that fast. Hammer-ons would put it in the impossible league for me...
@jonathancapps11033 жыл бұрын
@3:40 To be fair, Hammett does talk about accidentally pulling the string off the fretboard on the take that made the album. He doesn't do I live. But it's a different note near that part.