The Matrix Awakens Tech Analysis + PS5 vs Xbox Series S/X Performance Analysis

[@marcuslee1684]

Easily one of the most exciting tech demos ever. The glass during the shooting shifting about oddly gave me goosebumps

[@MichaelDoesLife]

Weird. It looks and plays like shit.

[@marciamakesmusic]

@@MichaelDoesLife replying to every comment, why are you so mad people like things you don't?

[@kahnsealable]

@@MichaelDoesLife Do you honestly sniff glue to believe the things you say?

[@saputrasaputra3347]

ah so promising.. the future of gaming , 1080p 20fps as expected of weakbox and weakstation 5

[@marcuslee1684]

@@MichaelDoesLife I think if you look past the framerate, you'll be greeted by the art.

[@Shieftain]

I was hoping DF would do a breakdown of this as soon as the demo was revealed. Didn't expect to see it this fast though! Well done team, well done.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

No need for a breakdown. This demo is shallow AF.

[@otherprisma7354]

@@MichaelDoesLife Its a tech demo dude, not a whole game.

[@chaoticshdwmonk]

They said at the start of the video that DF got a copy of it ahead of release so it's not as fast as you think

[@Shieftain]

@@chaoticshdwmonk Right, good point.

[@crazyworldoutthere4379]

@@otherprisma7354 Dude is a hate baiter

[@MrHonwe]

This demo is another meta way of demonstrating the concept of the Matrix, outside of the previous Matrix games.

[@f44had]

Another 'meta' way??? lmfao.. ok.

[@astroman310]

we like to see this how it will look like on my potato pc

[@f44had]

@@nope4620 I don't think that's what he meant by 'Meta'. Anyway I appreciate the rest of what you said

[@AdiusOmega]

The most important aspect of these technologies are simplifying an existing workflow made difficult due to man-power/time restraints. Crafting an open world while still utilizing traditional LOD models is so incredibly time consuming. To balance that ratio of pop-in, fidelity, taking into consideration the multitude of console variations, PC hardware. Nanite completely rids of that necessity for static environment assets. Lumin? Same thing. Crafting a world that looks accurate in dynamic lighting conditions is another balancing act that just simply won't be needed in the future.

[@darrylrobson4376]

@@StringTheory365 They aren't easier to make. The tools are better sure but the games are also far more complex and require bigger development teams than they used to, which of course need to be paid.

[@iniside]

@@StringTheory365 You don't consider the amount of R&D going into technology. Well at least at Epic.

[@PortfolioPL]

@@StringTheory365 That is nonsense. Making AAA open world games are significantly more difficult than it was 5-10 years ago. The amount of iterations needed to raise the level of each feature and system to shippable level is insane . The tools are much more complex and we expect a lot more from GDs and LDs than in the past (they visual script important systems which were hard coded before). The tools got better, but the expectations are much higher (no one wants to end up like Days Gone which was made in UE4). Look at the GTA Definitive trilogy to see how difficult even to port an already existing game while maintaining the cohesion of art, gameplay, music, etc. Look at how Cyberpunk guys could not make the systems work as their engine is not on the required level (e.g.: there are no police chases as there is no driving system in the open world).

[@VariantAEC]

@@iniside R&D happens everywhere for every developer even tiny ones that do one slightly unique thing for their title.

[@megaxrobertson759]

@@darrylrobson4376 70 dollars is a garbage price point. 60 was fine. Stop worshipping your corporations you dolt.

[@troyphillips6481]

Honestly, unreal engine 5 deserves industry-wide applause for actually pulling this kind of technology off in general, not to mention on consoles. This is truly groundbreaking.

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

This is all carefully planned by the top leaders at Sony, MS and Epic Games and probably other big companies involved as well. They wanted Epic Games to show this tech first as they are in the best marketing position to do so for the whole entire gaming industry. This is a huge selling point to push the sales of next gen consoles/hardware forward. I can guarantee that Sony, Rockstar, EA, Ubisoft, Activision etc are all in developement of true next gen titles using nanite and lumen technology. The most impressive part in this demo for me is the Meta-Human technology which alone has a price tag of 1 billion US dollars. I'm super impressed with the whole demo though and i agree they deserve industry-wide applause

[@TheChallenger1000]

The consoles this gen are pretty powerful, so that part isn't much of a shock.

[@mrjones29]

not just consoles, but the two top end consoles. why you surprised?

[@sharathvasudev]

imagine my happiness. after a long search battle, managed to buy a series x on Dec 7 and the next day this drops

[@mrjones29]

@@sharathvasudev great buy and stroke of luck lol

[@Deprece]

Imagine this engine on a game that isn’t open world. The detail would be beyond belief

[@dazza2350]

We've seen something like that with the tech demo with the girl exploring the desert ruins from last year

[@ryanod9845]

Last of Us 3 👀

[@jitensi]

Hellblade would exactly be that

[@statcous]

@@ryanod9845 Naughty Dog is developing their own engine for this gen, so sadly no.

[@CR00K__Gaming]

@@statcous I wouldn't say sadly. Naughty Dog has always done very well with their own engines. Guerilla Games included. We'll just have to wait and see.

[@gdoumit]

This tech demo is so incredible. If they don't make a Matrix game with this, it would be absolutely criminal. We NEED a Matrix game with modern tech so bad.

[@localgames1]

You're living in that game right now.

[@ProtoNoah]

@@localgames1 oh fuck

[@mohammadreza199]

@@localgames1 Read this with morpheus's voice

[@UberNoodle]

Well the joke's on us. We're all existing in a matrix game right now.

[@FigmentHF]

I don’t know how you can make this whole incredible city and not throw in a random “Lady in a red dress”, a black cat that appears twice, maybe a small % chance of seeing Neo flying off in the sky. Just a bunch of little Easter eggs to find. You can’t convince me that any of this stuff would take more than an afternoons work.

[@Shezmen88]

About the dodging the bullets scene, I think all they used from the original movie was the textures for the environment (the building and the city). In the original movie Keanu was shot over a green screen thanks to a circular rig of synchronized cameras surrounding him. The cape too was real and blown back by a wind machine. Even in the movie, you can clearly see that the environment is fake, although really well done for the time. What we see in this Unreal demo was a real time CG recreation, which to me was the only scene that looked not convincing at all. Everything else was absolutely mind-blowing. Especially when the eyes are covered with sun glasses, which eliminates even more that "uncanny valley" problem of cgi.

[@DeadPixel1105]

Holy shit, you used the phrase "uncanny valley" properly. Lately, I keep seeing KZbinrs and game reviewers use the phrase improperly - much like the term "literally" the last few years. For example: I've seen several KZbinrs refer to the goofy, cartoony character models of GTA Definitive Edition as "uncanny valley" - when that is the exact opposite of what "uncanny valley" means. Pointless rant, I admit.

[@Zach_Films]

I think they were only saying that Warner Brothers had a digital neo asset from the movies that was used and updated for this scene, not that it was necessarily used in that shot(s).

[@troelsmller2970]

Neo's jacket is CGI, maybe that's what they meant

[@Shezmen88]

@@Zach_Films yes it could be that!

[@mrn234]

@@DeadPixel1105 I think the GCI character Ron Perlman plays in one of the horrible 2 "Harry Potter" movies with Newt Scamander falls under uncanny valley

[@morbid1.]

in Demo itself most impressive for me was draw distance and fact that every car had "soft body physics" which can create quite realistic damage model

[@Ayoul]

I haven't tried to do comparisons, but my gut is that some of that isn't all physics, but very good shading work or some kind of blend of baked assets similar to that bridge. Like there's a clean car and damaged version pre-computed and they smoothly blend between the two at points of impact. The reason why I think that and I guess I should play more around with it to check, but it didn't feel systemic to me. It didn't feel like it was 100% doing what I was expecting it to do and it doesn't get worse and worse at every impact as if there's a limit. There's also no "little damage" as we can see in the video. If you do a small impact, you'd expect a small bump but no there's often nothing.

[@aggelostsirepas444]

@@Ayoul cut the crap troll. The demo using chaos physics engine

[@nolram]

@@aggelostsirepas444 Chaos is a rigid body solver (seen on the cached bridge for instance). Afaik it does not have a Softbody solver; and indeed, I don't think the car deformation is a real-time calculation, but I am not entirely sure. Haven't tried the demo myself yet.

[@Iamfirebird360]

These three guys talking games tech is so enjoyable. Its just like 3 best friends discussing their passion.

[@Case_]

Which is essentially exactly what it is.

[@astroman310]

if you like this on consolle you will chill on your pc low end like mine with gtx1050ti

[@hi_its_jerry]

20:45 that was the highlight. The movement, the detailed closeup on Keanu's face and the dim lighting/soft shadow. It's 99.9% perfect.

[@astroman310]

my metahuman looks good on Ue5

[@joker927]

Interacting with this Matrix demo was the coolest thing I have seen in tech in years. Excellent discussion DF.

[@astroman310]

imagime the engine playable on entry level gpu

[@darrenchilds5034]

@@astroman310 series s

[@GameDynastyPro]

This tech demo was insane definitely wasn't expecting the graphics to be so realistic.UE5 is true beast of gaming engine

[@override7486]

I guess you meant graphics engine. Because there's not much game of any sort, except the visuals and rendering solutions running on all cylinders. And as workforce is limited, you have to kinda decide what to spent your time (and money) for. Find balance between jaw-dropping visuals and VFX all over screen versus gameplay and "fun" part of the game itself.

[@attemptityourself5662]

@@override7486 well its an engine demo soooooo. Most gameplay elements of any game are tailored by the game makers. Sure epic will include a trove of stock assets and animations but every engine, even those made by studios for in-house production, will have bespoke elements created for an individual game from that studio when compared to another by the same studio on the same engine. You're splitting hairs on pedantics to be contrarian. Additionally on the workforce front they literally talked about multiple points of using the engines ai for world creation allowing smaller studios to dream bigger and also about improving performance across the board. For an unoptimized demo to showcase the abilities via real-time rendering on console(not pre rendered cgi on a pc) it is pretty mindblowing and delivers on the "next gen" everyone was hoping to see.

[@GameslordXY]

Yeah and framerate sucks from what I can see . For now. Question is, how well can consoles maintain THIS level of visual fidelity targeting smooth stable 30 or so , never mind 60 or more fps at this or higher resolution. 4K60 for example . Or 1080p120 Dynamic even .

[@GameslordXY]

@@attemptityourself5662 Word bespoke is reserved ExclusivelY for the members of Digital Foundry team. And YOU ARE NOT it. Best replace it with something else. 😜😜😜😝😛😛🤪🤪🤪

[@gamer123ab]

@@GameslordXY LOL!!!!!

[@cwehden]

the way the characters walk breaks the illusion in a big way..

[@MiggeX]

This is true

[@undeny]

Eyes are glassy not looking with ''intent'' as a human being would and mouth as well as head movements during speech look like puppets or bobble heads.

[@samiboy1368]

It was a problem on the last demo too

[@PersonPlaceThing1]

it's because they're in a simulation. It's lore accurate lol

[@antonioviramontes7619]

And the horrible pedestrians lol

[@37Kilo2]

I was absolutely stunned with this demo. Flying up to the top of skyscrapers and zooming into the rooms, and textures, gargoyles, etc., looking for any flaws, and finding very, very few. Now I need a game that takes place in this city, it's amazing and gorgeous.

[@deathtrooper2048]

It's not impressive outside of the first cutscene

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Finding very few? Lol are you blind?

[@HugoStiglitz88]

@UnjustifiedRecs exactly bro. Not only that but just the general scene looks like the low budget demo that it is, not a full fledged game People are overrating this demo like crazy just because it's UE5 when in actuality it doesn't even look better than Spiderman

[@devo229]

@@deathtrooper2048 no, walking the city and driving and the collision physics is quite impressive and flying up and see the grand size and detail of the city is very impressive

[@HugoStiglitz88]

@@devo229no it isn't lol not when it looks as bad as it does. Runs bad too and looks like a series S game even on series X. Spiderman 2018 makes this look like a joke lol

[@MrSTVR]

I love tech demos and hope they're more readily available on consoles like this

[@hovdog]

Man...this so much...

[@walrus-splice-renewable]

Why though? I would like try to games implementing the new Unreal Engine, I don't give a fuck about tech demos.

[@MrSTVR]

@@walrus-splice-renewable well they're free and you don't have to wait 3 years for them to release

[@hupekyser]

@@walrus-splice-renewable it's great for people who like technology. Which is part of the point of a technology demo.

[@prateekpanwar646]

@@walrus-splice-renewable Well then you'll have to wait 3 years atleast. When any new console comes out, It needs atleast 2-3 years to fully utilise the hardware. See forza horizon 2 on Xbox one and forza horizon 4. Same console, But bump in quality is exceptional.

[@drztopgun]

I checked out this Unreal Engine 5 demo on my series X last night. I couldn't believe my eyes and the prospect of this being the future of gaming.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

It looks horrible

[@eSKAone-]

Yea 30fps again the future of gaming, great.

[@eSKAone-]

Now we really need PS5 Pro

[@sprintingsnail9492]

@@eSKAone- why?

[@SoumyadeepChanda]

@@eSKAone- Do you expect a 3090 in a $500 console?

[@Pedr4m]

I love that Winamp makes an appearance in the video around 18:22 playing an mp3 from the Matrix soundtrack downloaded from Kazaa. What a great 90s throwback!

[@ThaMobstarr]

LOL defintely could‘t be more retro! Winamp is a program I haven’t heard of in ages. Although this would probably be more early 00s to me. :D

[@TylerNessss]

Hell yeah baby! This was just pure nostalgia.

[@astroman310]

just look at what this gen of consolle is capable of

[@marcuspierce124]

I haven't seen the DF crew this enamored with a tech demo in a long time. Sidenote: Would anyone else love to see a Virtua Fighter-esque Matrix fighter using this tech?

[@LarnelleChambers]

obviously i wanna see that. pleaaase hurry up

[@jayclarke777]

I would just like a new Virtual Fighter altogether

[@beingatliberty]

would there be much point? nanite is making city scapes possible in such detail, a couple of characters fighting would barely touch the sides of this technology. ;)

[@LeonidThe90sKid]

Hey Marcus Pierce, are you a bit FGC as well? :) i’m to find developers for a fighting game using this tech (or similar tech in the near future). Some companies seem to not want anything to do with fighting games at the moment (probably from looking at fortnite numbers and comparing them with fighting games).

[@baronsengir187]

If it can keep 60 fps

[@TheKafairy]

I’ve been waiting for an example of a Next Gen game unhindered by past technology considerations - this is really cool

[@MichaelDoesLife]

Maybe learn how things work before running your mouth and making a fool of yourself. Last of Us 2 looks better. And that ran on 2013 hardware. Get real, bro.

[@gavinderulo12]

@@MichaelDoesLife is the last of us 2 open world, does it have dynamic lighting? This demo shows way more than you think it does.

[@Departure4885]

@@MichaelDoesLife I gave you a thumbs down not just because you’re wrong, but also because how rude this comment is.

[@kylelochner5686]

@@MichaelDoesLife last of us 2 textures look low res on the rocks and most of the assets. It looked good at the time but these new games look better in every way.

[@frankjoz2803]

@@MichaelDoesLife It doesn't look better. Facts

[@Omikron1011]

The detailing in this demo is absolutely absurd! So many building and other assets, rooftops and stuff, it is mind blowing!

[@richwong403]

It would be better if they put environment reflections on their black glasses.

[@astroman310]

woul this playable on the gtx or ati with raytracyng?

[@thomashewitt8104]

Played this on PS5 last night and it was incredible. I’m especially impressed with Nanite, I spend a good hour just zooming in on random props on the street and architectural features on buildings and just being absolutely blown away by the amount of geometry, and how seamlessly the level of detail changes as you move closer / further from it

[@kc-me6wl]

same dude...lost 30minutes just walking around the streets...was a point when i caught the sun coming right down a street and it just bounced off the character so incredibly felt as though as i was basking in the sun myself... if metaverse VR captures details like this were screwed lol

[@-1nterruption-960]

Played this on my Series X for a few hours just flying around looking at the detail on everything. Just Amazing

[@v1kt0u5]

Beautiful in HDR/DV and smooth rendered by this machine.

[@NikHem343]

As a teenager I wondered if it will ever ever be possible at all to achieve photorealistic games. 15 years later and we are almost there. Mind bending.

[@Blottski]

Exactly this. I really am looking forward to when the current gen consoles ditch the old gen and can fully move towards what this Matrix tech demo shows us. I remember at the start of the PS4/Xbox One gen I thought BF4 was an impressive looking game....man how far we have come even since that time.

[@DimitriosChannel]

When I was a kid I collected every PC magazine and I still have the old one from MAXIMUM PC where the Nvidia CEO stated we almost have TOYSTORY graphics and he also stated in 15 years or so you wouldn't tell the difference. This article was made 1999 I think I gotta find it in my pile at my parents attic. I'm not joking I have 2-3 ft worth of PC Tech magazines. Ia also saved the Demo CD's as well! Even the DOOM demo.

[@NikHem343]

@@DimitriosChannel That was an impressively accurate statement then

[@Sinn0100]

@@michalthekind What?! No, this demo is playable on a 500 dollar console right now. I'm as middle class as you can get and we (fiancee and I) have both 9th generation consoles that I picked up at launch. We just played the demo not 10 minutes ago and thought it was amazing. I played on the Series X and she on the PS5 *physical. Addendum- The only reason it took so long for us is I thought the demo was just a glorified trailer for a movie. I had no idea what I was missing...

[@astroman310]

@@Sinn0100 my gtx 1050ti will run this at 25fps

[@JimmyZeng]

I'm really impressed XSS could hold up that well.

[@Balthazar2242]

The beauty of using The Matrix for a tech demo is the whole thing makes sense in-universe. Any glitch, any inconsistency, even the fact that you are manipulating the world, works as part of the Matrix. It's like you're an AI constructing the world.

[@andymontanez56]

Someone definitely needs to make a new matrix game

[@andyward8430]

Yes it is the perfect setting for an open world game with very “gamish” mechanics and flaws.

[@skid6641]

@@andymontanez56 insomniac would do a good job

[@andymontanez56]

@@skid6641 thatd be cool. Think I would prefer remedy more though for this game

[@weaverquest]

@@andymontanez56 A Naughty Dog Matrix game would have been a dream imo. They already got the state of the art motion capture and very realistic animations, action set pieces from Uncharted as crazy as the action sequences from the Matrix movies, the visceral gunplay and melee from tlou 2, and with a graphics tech like this would be mind-blowing.

[@nico5179]

I played this on my PS5 on my 4K HDR monitor and it was just mind blowing. I honestly never seen this level of realism in a game like ever, and I have been gaming on the PC for over 2 decades now. Just amazing!

[@TheAltafir]

You haven't seen a graphic like this 20 years ago? What bullshit you played

[@nico5179]

@@TheAltafir not even today with modern gaming PCs have I seen graphics like these. I have a Ryzen 7 5800X and an RX6800XT gpu for your information!

[@pilouuuu]

It's a real shame this demo is not on PC.

[@ShatteringKatana]

@@pilouuuu It's a good call in the sense that people can't claim "oh, this runs on an overspecced PC" (that's what the team claimed). I would like to play it on PC though, as it's totally capable of doing so.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Wait till you see it on OLED

[@r.o.6180]

Tried on my Xbox Series S (24" 1080p display) and PS5 (4k 55") it's an amazing demo. I was shocked!

[@braiaposts]

Me too, it's Very good. But remember, it's a bad optimized demo. Ue5 optimized games will be awesome

[@JasonZakrajsek]

24 and 55 foot TVs? Incredible!!!

[@TerraWare]

@@JasonZakrajsek OP is ahead of all of us it seems lol

[@UserInterface00]

After it was announced at the Game Awards that this went live, I’m sure all of us were waiting for the Digital Foundry tech review

[@v1kt0u5]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@jaymac7203]

This was the first time my series x actually felt like it was being utilised. Awesome demo.

[@devo229]

So true

[@Blue_Brawler]

agreed! i’ve been waiting for a game to truly wow me!

[@NextgenPL]

Of course! ... Before this it was like big crossgen nonsense!!!! From now we start a true next gen experience! Amazing time!

[@sevn8757]

@@Blue_Brawler Ive been waiting for a series x to actually be in stock

[@RareManga]

Nah don’t forget about the greatest game…Halo

[@M.W.H.]

This is probably the biggest move forward in visuals technology in video games since the days that ushered the 3D graphics. Most impressive indeed, let's see where this will go.

[@neilranson4185]

Seems the holy grail of gaming graphics has now been met being what looks at least like infinite detail abs photo realism. I knew these consoles could do a LOT more than what we have mostly seen so far but even then I was shocked I couldn’t tell what was real life and what was real time in engine visuals

[@M.W.H.]

@@neilranson4185 this also proves that the publishers/developers were lazy.

[@jayroman3384]

@@M.W.H. it doesn’t. At all. Unreal engine 5 is brand new. It takes time for games to start being made with the engine. I think the only confirmed game that’s being developed in it so far is Black Myth: Wukong

[@alexbrown5658]

@@jayroman3384 Hellblade II is also confirmed to be running on UE5 and we just saw that at the TGA. It looked absolutely nuts.

[@GratefulDave93]

@@jayroman3384 Star Atlas is being developed with UE5

[@TheWeeky]

seein Neo so real as a GAME character was actually unreal, the whole demo is insane but how realistic they made Neo is actually amazing

[@FinerSide321]

U r correct it is unreal .....unreal engine 5 xD

[@raijinn5139]

its not a game

[@fafski1199]

@Transistor Jump It's not exactly AAA or even indie quality though. It's just a showcase tech demo, with a couple of basic and simplistic gameplay elements added.

[@1ChilledDude]

I knew from the moment I'd laid eyes on the in-game visuals and playing this tech demo, I was witnessing a game changer. Your analysis of the tech is a vindication. This demo is truly revolutionary given how closely it mimics in real-time what was once considered only the realm of pre-rendered CG. This genuinely looks like the pre-rendered scenes from the actual Matrix movies and each of those CG scenes took literally days to render! I was equally astonished at how smooth everything ran on the PS5. If this is a taste of what this generation of consoles has to offer, the future is looking very bright indeed. If they can maintain this level of fidelity for VR experiences developed with UE5, the immersion level will be beyond mind blowing!

[@1ChilledDude]

@@faultyservice There are companies that have released procedural building creation tools on Unreal's Marketplace before, but it looks like EPIC's internal devs have taken this to a whole new level in this demo. The rule sets that govern how structures are populated within the environment seem quite sophisticated.

[@astroman310]

my gtx is ready for this or i need a better configuration for the 2023?

[@dogeatinghomework]

30fps VR would be absolutely sickeningly unpleasant man. The current gen consoles have nowhere near the horsepower for a proper VR experience at this level of graphical fidelity. Even 60hz VR is unpleasant.

[@cmo5807]

@@dogeatinghomework You are aware the new ps5 vr unit will run 90 and 120.... Yes I understand you mean the power of the consoles but Im just pointing out at least this Playstation vr unit will not be as bad as the last. But yes the games will not be this good looking but I expect by the midlife of the VR unit the games will look good.

[@Rawnchie14]

The fact we can get this running on a console - before the improvements and optimizations coming with a new engine - is astounding. It's going to also guide PC performance and quality for games to sky high levels if console is squeezing this out.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

It doesn't't look that impressive, dude. Chill.

[@azziek3246]

@@MichaelDoesLife Ok dude

[@paul1979uk2000]

Do have to wonder what developers are going to be able to do with this engine on the PC, especially once the engine gets more optimized with this level of results on consoles.

[@harlenkelly7331]

This is just the first year of the consoles, developers will be able to get more out of the consoles as they get more accustomed to their intricacies.

[@LauritzenLucas]

@@MichaelDoesLife It's the best looking game ever made currently dude, chill.

[@frostyone182]

This tech demo was absolutely stunning. Parts of it looked nearly indistinguishable from real life. I am so excited for this engine and the future of gaming. The only issue is the NPCs, once you start walking around. They kind of ruined it. Even then, the buildings look super realist and the sense of scale is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. I didn’t feel like I was a small person walking around a model city, like in every other game ever made. I actually felt the size of the buildings. If that makes any sense.

[@seangalvin3196]

I agree. It made me excited for it's use in something like a Spider Man game. It looks so real that you would be nervous about jumping off something like a building. When it looks this real it's all feels so much more dangerous. I hope I'm explaining that right. Very exciting indeed! Oh yeah, I wonder if it will be more nerve racking and emotionally intense to fire a weapon at an NPC at close range when they look so real. Lots of interesting questions.

[@autotropicplaybench1819]

True but as a demo it seemed clear to me that they focused mostly on showcasing how well the Lumen lighting system scales on such a big area with a vast amount of buildings, traffic and rendered people over long distances all at once more than anything else - after all there's not much collision/physics mechanics other than the cars you drive ingame that don't explode for example, so it's clear making effort to add even more real NPCs wasn't the priority on the demo. Which is fine because that can always be refined by proper devs, and regardless of what people think of Epic (I myself still will not bother to get an Epic Games Store account), their Unreal Engine 5 demo is technically impressive

[@izzyarland5304]

My eyesight is poor but yours must be worse. NPCs as you say look like anything out of a five to ten year old Assassin's Creed. Frame pacing is crap, no physics on anything that's not scripted, jaggies everywhere. Real life? I don't think so. But it's nice they made it free, obviously a good marketing move considering Warner Bros. paid Epic a bucketload of money to do this.

[@johnlake2545]

Nanite and Lumen were able to achieve such hyper realistic visuals for the city that MetaHuman, no matter how impressive it is, ends up looking like mammoth turd and irritating the hell out of the uncanny valey sense.

[@pilouuuu]

We need more A.I. Lots of it.

[@antjarvis]

The cross over in tech from games to movie production and back again is fascinating. The last 3 big commercials I worked on, all featured Unreal in some form or other. It is becoming as ubitquitus as the camera, and has enabled the widespread use of LED volumes. Surely they are up for the Science and Technoloy Oscar?

[@XPuntar]

That is for sure! In the end credits of the movie The Matrix Resurrection there is a mention of Unreal Engine 5!

[@astroman310]

we need this with ati or nvidia partneship

[@zhaf]

Keanu Reeves: “What is real? How do we know?” DF: Oh we know….. we analyzed the shit out of it.

[@frogbelly45]

HAHA 😄 🤣

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

69 likes Niceeee

[@dragonskull473slayer9]

This tech demo was insane definitely wasn't expecting the graphics to be so realistic

[@sharathvasudev]

I lost it when they said the initial scene neo opening his eyes was rendered. I thought it was video playing.

[@astroman310]

It s still insane did you deleted it?

[@Nielo_Gan]

Anyone who isn't totally blown away by this doesn't understand the tech involved. There are lot more at play here than just 3D visuals. I'm still collecting my jaw off the floor. The physics alone is 👌. And all running on 500 dollar consumer hardware. 🤯

[@jazzycup9274]

Hit 130mph on the freeway circle, saw Epic themselves couldn't keep their engine from bogging down, said "neat" and turned it off. It was cool, but we aren't going to see anything using it to its *full potential or seeing a consistent 60 or 120 frames until Xbox "whatever" and the PS6. *We will definitely see badly optomized games come out before then though.

[@stop965]

Hell 400

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Except tech isn't everything. Who gives a shit how advanced the tech is if it doesn't look as attractive as something else?? There are plenty of games with more advanced tech than Demons Souls but that doesn't change the fact that demons souls is by far the best looking game money can buy right now.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

@@jazzycup9274 exactly. Ue5 is an unoptimized mess and still doesn't manage to look better than many last Gen games let alone current Gen LOL

[@Nielo_Gan]

@@HugoStiglitz88 When you boost visual realism, you also need to boost animation, physics, AI, etc. If you don't, you get disjointed mess, which basically the bulk of current games. Look pretty, makes great screenshots, falls flat at everything else. This is the first playable content I've seen that brings it altogether. Hence the overwhelming praise by many. Impossible to pull off on last gen. UE5 is still in development, this was developed by small team with limited budget & time. Can't wait to see what this engine can do once its properly set loose.

[@lohitpeesapati3846]

I played it yesterday on a 1080p screen, on my XSX and it still looked remarkable. Thanks for the great analysis as always, was waiting for this! I hope Epic updates this demo with any future improvements.

[@mrroachclip8444]

I got a series x quick question..how can I play it?

[@GotSawst]

@@mrroachclip8444 push Y and search for the Matrix in the store. 🤔

[@mrroachclip8444]

@@GotSawstthanks

[@CrashBashL]

That's because the game is still rendering in 4K in the VRAM then it gets downscaled to the TV's native resolution , thus keeping a much higher quality. It's not the same for playing a game or this demo directly in 1080p on an 1080p screen. Then it will look bad.

[@sharathvasudev]

@@CrashBashL exactly. I play on my 1080p monitor than my 4k tv. it always looks better on monitors. monitors definitely come with better tech unless you buy very expensive TV from a big brand

[@mtdubdachamp6917]

Seeing this running on my PS5 was jaw dropping. I haven't been this impressed with something in a long time.. if this is the future of the next gen systems and PC then I'm glad I'm already on board. UE5 is a true beast. I can only imagine how flawless this looks on PC..

[@griffgames9538]

... with adequate CPU/GPU and crucially storage speeds.

[@landfillao4193]

As a PC player imagining is all I can do as well because we didn't get the demo. lol. Sounds like it'll come as a free update in Unreal Engine 5 but I'd like to play it without needing to download the whole engine. But whatever. I hope to try it at some point.

[@mtdubdachamp6917]

@@landfillao4193 damn I thought it was on PC as well.. well I can tell you it was jaw dropping imo. Just beautiful.

[@colemin2]

@@griffgames9538 A slow ssd will be fine for UE5 games.

[@paul1979uk2000]

@@mtdubdachamp6917 Sounds like it might be with the engine on release but clearly they wanted to try and impress with the new consoles first. Once games target PC and the new consoles only whiles using newer game engines to take advantage of them is when the real true next gen gaming begins because for now, games are cross gen whiles using engines that are designed for the last gen consoles. Still, I have to wonder what they could deliver on the PC if this is the results they are getting on consoles in an unoptimised form.

[@DonkeyRhubarb21]

Played through this today. I'm so appreciative that they released this for free. I know it's in their own interest to do so, but I'm so impressed and it feels like the newest gens of demos we used to get.

[@AmariMarvelous]

Very very impressive tech demo. This is the future for now current gen games moving forward once devs utilize the Unreal engine to its advantage along with the power of the PS5/xbox Series X. Last time I was enamored and felt characters looked life like was LA Noire in terms of graphics and face models. Till this day I think the best photo realistic games are God Of War, The Last Of Us part 2 and Red Dead Redemption 2.

[@astroman310]

Alex agrees with me to see the matrix on pc hardware

[@astroman310]

you cant deny that

[@LonghornsLegend]

It was such a great surprise seeing this and being absolutely blown away. Just incredible. Can't recall the last time I've played a game and was visually blown away

[@griffgames9538]

Remember: *This is an extreme stress test of Unreal Engine 5 on these MSRP $299-$499 consoles* with a sprawling seamless open world packed with activity and effects. Yes, the frame-rate buckles under that pressure but *this is due to sheer volume of geometry, assets, AI, and effects work pushing the consoles* Now, dial it back a bit. Very few Unreal Engine 5 games will go for this raw scale. Imagine "wide linear" games like Halo Infinite, Far Cry, etc. running on UE5. Imagine smaller scope yet densely packed and detailed games like Control on UE5. The consoles can certainly brute force through more conservative scope game designs on UE5, and 60fps is absolutely still on the table. We need to keep the demo's massive scope in perspective when criticizing the relative performance/frame-rate. There's no need to jump to conclusions like "the new consoles are back to 30fps now!" because we'll obviously see many different game types/world complexity in future UE5 titles on Series and PS5.

[@icqpimp]

Great post. Only the top tier companies will (obviously) develop these games smartly to run properly with this new engine. Looking forward to it. Playing this thing on PS5 Friday I was just like: "This is THEE actual first-time next-generation game I've played on my console." Even the best first party games from Sony can't touch this. Not even Spider-Man Remastered, Miles Morales, or Last Of Us Part II.

[@icqpimp]

I hear you. This game/demo has put all other games into perspective. They're all gonna be cross-gen. I can't do that. I'm not looking forward to that.

[@julien2231]

Dont use logic. Its not welcome here.

[@AngryChineseWoman]

Can't wait for the PS5 Pro and the RTX 4 series

[@LucDutra92]

Totally. Just check out the latest Hellblade II trailer. Though it doesn't seem quite as impressive as the reveal trailer (maybe that was CGI afterall) it's still a huge evolution compared to past gen games.

[@chinodigitalbath]

Let's hope this tech transfers into future projects...its really very impressive and extremely surprising to see this kind of playable tech demo on consoles. Finally some true next gen software running on the new machines...

[@alexsilva28]

Hope? Lol what do you think they will use this tech on? Ofc it will be used in future projects

[@chinodigitalbath]

@@alexsilva28 Well, after there have been quite a lot of disappointing releases in the last couple of years, it for sure doesn't automatically mean that UE5 and this tech demo in particular is the saving grace of video games now...especially not if upcoming titles focus on graphics & presentation only 😉 there are big differences in the industry, especially budget wise. UE actually only is a "set of tools", it doesn't make the actual job of creating something obsolet... you still need a skilled team and millions of cash nowadays, in order to create a true next gen (blockbuster like) title, which looks, feels, runs and plays great...all at the same time and across different machines.

[@sasukegodmode7213]

@@chinodigitalbath Because Ps3 and Ps4 were never good.

[@genfactor3390]

When Series X and PS5 came out I struggled to figure out what the big deal was. It took a year but I'm finally impressed.

[@apimpnamedstepback1431]

Supply issues are holding this generation of consoles back.

[@WllKiedSnake]

@@apimpnamedstepback1431 And this hold back of this generation is why we have so many cross gen and remasters going on recently. Very easy to do those vs the bigger games.

[@andymontanez56]

Really? The jump was obvious at the beginning

[@rogerm4a1]

@@andymontanez56 not this obvious though.

[@GeniusCenaa]

You didn’t watch the UE5 demo they showed in 2020 did you?!

[@SpontaneousWeasel]

This really blew my mind - loved how closely they got to a truly photo real version of the original movie's introduction of neo waking to his pc from the matrix rain effect. I wasn't sure what to expect from the teaser countdown but this really cemented what the new console hardware can do!

[@galaxy_freezer8293]

Regarding Series S and objects in the distance: Nanite tries to show every mesh with a tessellation level where every polygon equals one rendered pixel. Less rendered pixels => lower mesh resolution. More rendered pixels => higher mesh resolution. Therefore the difference in mesh quality for distant objects.

[@jemandetwas1]

That's really unfortunate for 1080p gamers.

[@lumking972]

I can't wait to see companies holding back and not using the full potential of Xbox Series X and Playstation 5 just for the game to be able to run well on Xbox Series S.

[@ehsanghazavi470]

@@lumking972 Last gen is what's going to hold back these consoles not the series s. This is such a stupid take

[@Zakurablade]

@@lumking972 they have been doing it to pc for years. Your argument is so flawed that it should hit you back.

[@superioritymelee]

@@lumking972 It won't hold them back cuz games will be designed with scalability in mind. So when developers go full next gen you'll see that PS5 and Series X will get all that 4k textures and stuff and Series S will be running those games with lower texture quality and resolution. And this kind of optimization is easy enough due to all consoles sharing same architecture.

[@sneakkyz3696]

You gotta love and respect digital foundry for this stuff especially for the fact they get videos out so fast.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

They need to get a real job

[@nickabbott319]

Absolutely

[@akaimizu1]

Definitely a pretty impressive demo. Tried this on my XBX today. It's true that the buildings and such have no pop-in. The only pop-in is actually with the vehicles. They do have a limit of how much they actually draw the cars before they disappear, so if you move around high enough (like with the flying cam) you'll see where they suddenly pop-in. Needless to say, it's still impressive that the buildings do this. Also impressive is the distance the cars do render. If you don't go flying high, you'd never see where the cars stop. I would say they render far enough that if you are driving in a reasonably fast car (ground level), the cars/peds will render far enough to be just beyond vanishing point. While I would probably give this up to the limited time in developing this demo, the main distraction is that certain layered textures, for certain specific objects) spaz out. Like dirt map on a certain sidewalk texture that is flashing in and out. But I could say it fits as this *glitch* in the Matrix. You'll also see a funky shimmer at distance buildings at certain distances. The Pedestrian AI is definitely a step above, in most places. They avoid each other's and your character's path, and there is real collision used. Also, many people are good at going around various routes almost like they have somewhere real to go. They seem to also choose random path choices when they come to a place where they can choose a direction. I was thinking individuals had a fixed circuit or something, but I've stalked an NPC to see them almost do that Chaos theory thing when they approach the same location, if they make back around to it. I did find some very specific places, in the city, (one case, not far from those specific Chain-link fences shown in this video) where the pedestrian AI goes off the rails and just sits there walking into a wall. You can try to bump them to the sidewalk, but they'll just do their animation where they react and look at you and your audacity to bump into them, but won't really budge to fix themselves. I would guess that would take a little more hands-on massaging, of spots like that, to fix so that the AI doesn't get trapped there. Still, impressive demo, and definitely shows where they can go.

[@TastyPapaya]

there's obvious pop-in at 13:46

[@akaimizu1]

@@TastyPapaya I do see what is sort of a geometry update on an existing object, but not full object pop-in. It's kind of like those glitches in the system, I was talking about. Especially when you see it on an object that is closer than other objects, and objects on the same line not doing the same.

[@daeraloth1115]

For the price, that series S is one impressive little box.

[@mixey01]

Finally. The only tech analysis the whole gaming community has been anxiously waiting for 😊🙏

[@HipnotikHylian]

Not really lmao. I didn't give a fuck about this

[@Beaut_Beau]

@@HipnotikHylian Yet here you are commenting on it...

[@RokkieSparrow]

@@Beaut_Beau right 😬

[@awesomegtadude1752]

@@HipnotikHylian lmfaoooo christ

[@TheSolidfoxhound]

@@HipnotikHylian Here's a lollipop 🍭 for you kiddo

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Amazing, the character models look on par with the cg character models of matrix revolutions which was professional grade movie production, one of the most expensive movies of its time

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

I agree it's amazing. That Meta Human technology Epic Games showcases in this tech-demo has currently a price tag of 1 billion US dollars and it's still under developement

[@astroman310]

the stream from the ssd ps5 did a good job on this demo

[@ryanschindler923]

This demo and seeing Hellblade Senua 2 are making me super excited for the future of games

[@marty8370]

Hellblade 2 looked boring as hell

[@hog33333]

Already excited now playing halo infinite and forza horizon 5! The future is now! Haha

[@jal.ajeera]

I played this on my PS5 and it looks absolutely stunning!!! Frame rates are wonky though. But if the future is even 60% of this, it's going to be amazing!

[@dom4591]

I tried it on Series X yesterday and I think the low frame rate ruined the demo. Everything else was impressive though.

[@krono5el]

if you mess with the density setting it can run great.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

I hope the future is nothing like this. Game looks like garbage.

[@saputrasaputra3347]

ah so promising.. the future of gaming , 1080p 20fps as expected of weakbox and weakstation 5

[@krono5el]

@@dom4591 yeah but it doesnt stutter as much

[@권용대-b5v]

This is the arrival of true next-gen graphics. Can’t believe what I’m watching.

[@voodoovibes1909]

I love the fact that Epic got The Coalition (unreal masters) to help with this project. Can't wait to see how Gears 6 will look.

[@marwanyousif7456]

Yeah gears of War 6 will be UE5 for sure

[@jayclarke777]

They needed to get The Coalition because the PS5 runs better on average. That 12Tflops has been outdone once again.

[@Suavellous]

@@jayclarke777 how does it run better??? 😂 oh, you’re just fanboying. Like the ppl on twitter showing buildings rendered in on ps5 and not xsx, then didn’t bother showing buildings rendered in on xsx and not on ps5🤦🏻‍♂️

[@idflr1]

@@jayclarke777 one fps advantage. Watch the video again...

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

@@idflr1 In one scene too lol.

[@caiop.4972]

This demo allayed my fears about Xbox Series S not being able to run true next-gen experiences.

[@Rawnchie14]

It may not be the prettiest, but the features will be there, which is excellent news down the road as Series S continues to provide a pathway for gamers to next gen at a lower price tag.

[@blenderguy2598]

I honestly have no horse in the console wars but it worries me also. I have a feeling it’ll hold back Xbox exclusives for this whole generation sadly. Meanwhile playstation devs only have one set hardware to work with. Time will tell though and maybe some Xbox exclusives will still blow my socks off down the line!

[@supermadkid]

@@blenderguy2598 he said allayed his fears I.e. he's not worried about it anymore. Basically he's impressed at what the little machine is achieving in this highly demanding game. I am too. It's got 1/3rd the GPU power of series x and half of the ps5 but is producing almost identical results. Like nobody outside of DF could have noticed these differences even with a side by side except the obvious resolution differences. It only bodes well for the future of the machine.

[@blenderguy2598]

@@supermadkid lol whoops, you are correct I completely glossed over his word choice and assumed. My mistake, that’s what I get for leaving a comment right before bed. Thanks for pointing out my error, I still stand by what I said that I still have my doubts about it. That being said, for this demo, the fact that series S is running it definitely does blow my mind too!

[@richardtucker5938]

@@supermadkid its more like 2/5 the power of ps5 right? All the teraflops metrics are talking about peak calculations for each system.

[@greengamerguy623]

The Collapsing Bridge is an animation but I bet its technically a 'cached' chaos physics simulation played back.

[@elbiggus]

I went through three stages when I tried this. I thought it was all just a video until the rooftop bullet time thing and then went "that's pretty cool, but it's not interactive so I won't get too excited", then the on-rail shooter started and I thought "OK, it's a *bit* interactive, but it's still constrained and highly scripted", then they handed the controls over and I did a little wee...

[@saxoman1]

My exact reaction as well!

[@augenlutschen]

I played the demo blind after waited for the damn countdown to end. It blew me away what it offered for a tech demo. A funny thing to do is a massive traffic jam, never seen before.

[@DarthRaver-og7qq]

This demo only scratches the surface of what will be possible in games in the coming years. Really exciting stuff.

[@Hirnlego999]

Yes, but the problem is that a lot of studios won't be able to afford to do this level of graphics

[@kajmak64bit76]

@@Hirnlego999 actually it's opposite... these stuff make making good graphics easier and faster... so it's actually gonna be cheaper and easier so... uhh.. yeah... that happend apparently

[@Hirnlego999]

@@kajmak64bit76 Fast and easy is marketing talk. Bioshock Infinite cost 100 million USD to develop and it's nowhere near this complexity

[@kajmak64bit76]

@@Hirnlego999 exactly... because all the realietic lighting is fake... manually crafted by the developers... Lumen and Raytracing is just flipping a switch... and voila... realistic lighting... the devs only place light sources.. props... and proper textures... flip raytracing on... and boom good lighting... while previously they had to manually craft and make raytracing knock off lighting with regular non raytracing way aka rasterization ( i think that's what it's called not sure ) So yes it's more simpler to make and more cheap

[@Hirnlego999]

@@kajmak64bit76 LOL no, the textures and a lot won't pop into existence from out of nowhere. But sure, raytracing lightning will be faster but it's gonna be many many years until the average person has enough RT power so that will be the only way things will be created. Don't expect this to happen fast.

[@leonthesleepy]

Playing this blew my mind. Its the first time i've genuinely seen anything that made me think "oh this is next gen"

[@JVIoneyman]

If they fix the frame times, and the odd ghosting from what I am assuming is the upscaling, this will be a huge leap ahead.

[@wingedhussar1453]

Ghosting is worse then frame rate.30 fps is ok

[@BDreGaming]

I was totally blown away when first exploring the city in this on PS5. It's very close to photorealism

[@astroman310]

yeah the ps5 is strong enough for what its shown

[@BDreGaming]

@@astroman310 as is the series X. The PS5 runs the demo at a slightly higher frame rate, as digital Foundry showed in their analysis.

[@VideoGameKillCounts]

I was so mind blown that I was playing THIS on a Series S… I kill counted it just for fun.. it was an experience like no other, wow! What a time to be alive!

[@ImIncluded166]

People really underestimate the series s for sure

[@ReginaldVannison7777]

With these visuals, I think it’s safe to say next gen is finally here. It’s about damn time too.

[@adk4986]

I dont like it, as so far its sacrificing a lot of performance

[@ReginaldVannison7777]

@@adk4986 yeah that’s a huge cause for concern. I’m starting to wonder will the FidelityFX Super Resolution make a difference now.

[@loitersquad93]

The screen tearing and dropping frames was not it for me

[@danielweiss4498]

Tim Sweeney Epic Games :"PS5's storage architecture is way ahead of anything currently available for purchase on PC for any amount of money." "I'm referring to actual speeds, not theoretical specs. The PS5 can transfer and decompress textures and geometries from memory directly to video memory, with no CPU decompression and driver abstraction overhead, making overall performance much higher than on the PC"

[@garnetnelson1419]

The first time EVER I been excited for next gen. Epic is standing up to their name as well as the Unreal engine name. 🙌🏽👍🏽🔥

[@teehundeart]

The temporal super resolution blew my mind. When the demo switched TSR on and off the difference was huge.

[@bartfratze9529]

much better as the blurry mess TAA Temporal Anti Aliasing

[@MichaelDoesLife]

Regardless of what tracks they have up their sleeve, it's still muddy 1080p. Sad. You can't play the demo without connecting to the internet first. They're going to eventually pull it.

[@NeoTechni]

The temporal stuff is always terrible

[@NeoTechni]

@Sonic all temporal effects look terrible. Control looked the worst.

[@Patr1ck2332]

@@bartfratze9529 infinite 👀

[@alphacompton]

NEO SLEEPING BY THE PC IS REALTIME UE5????? OMG I was positive that's ripped from the movie. That's insane. This way above anything out there.

[@MoonSarito]

I really need to say, this is impressive, the Unreal Engine 5 looks very promising, it's shown to scale well with Fortnite even on last gen consoles ( and Switch ) and now demonstrates its graphics potential with Matrix on next gen consoles, I'm really curious to see what games will come out in the future that will use it. Can't wait for that.

[@kazioo2]

Fortnite uses tons of custom optimizations and scaling tricks that Unreal Engine doesn't have (because doing it in a more universal and adaptive way for all types of games is much more difficult). There is a long presentation on youtube detailing it all.

[@jitensi]

I am more excited about the world's this can make for the movies. The Mandalorian was a good starting point

[@kevinball5340]

090

[@killkiss_son]

Huuuum , I don't think talking of Switch is a good idea while talking of graphics (and fortnite is looking like PS2 on Switch)

[@rowns814]

Playing this blew me away. Can’t wait to see what the future holds.

[@MichaelDoesLife]

Miles Morales looks just as good on PS5. Get real.

[@rowns814]

@@MichaelDoesLife I have MM on PS5, no it doesn’t. Go cry into your PS3. 🤣🤣

[@maciekan]

@@rowns814 I was thinking the same thing though, take miles on a walk and it's quite better with rtx, only difference i see is less vehicles.

[@rowns814]

@@maciekan it’s not just the walking around the city segment. It was mainly the car chase scene for me. That was next level immersion, I was gripped. Remember this is only a tech demo. I’m purely saying imagine what games will look like in 10 years with this kind of tech fully developed and optimised. People need to chill out.

[@addidaswguy]

@@rowns814 seriously, It's unbelievable! The fact that there was no visible pop-in, and you could see a building WAAAAAY out and just continually drive towards and it stays visible the entire time, I can't remember that in anything ever in a big city or world setting. Can't wait to see the future in 5-10 years. Also this makes me want a Spider-Man, Batman, AND a Superman game in a badass city like this.

[@Cassp0nk]

Cyberpunk could do with some of this! The color grading in this demo is phenomenal. Straight from the movies.

[@supermadkid]

People are hating on the series s version but I was seriously impressed by it. Unless you have these side by side comparisons to notice how the 10-12TF consoles are doing things better, the series s version looks really damn good. Its doing all the same things like RT and stuff and with the upscaling solution it looks really good. I doubt people on a 1080p/1440p display will be complaining. It's a mini beast imo.

[@DocRobotnik]

People complaining about the Series S, aren't playing on Series S.

[@Deedric_Kee]

We just got an amazing demo,but I know they have so much more and I can't wait to see the first party games that we'll get from this phenomenal engine 🙌

[@Aaron25thinfantry]

This is an exciting time to be gamer.. I started gaming on an Nintendo and to now be gaming at this level is mind boggling to me. Very impressive open world

[@lilpp4791]

Graphics aint shit if the developers have no souls or passion for the games they create

[@astroman310]

yep the ps5 and xbox will have a long life with this tecnology

[@maineman5757]

Imagine a VR game looking this good.

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

@@colbyboucher6391 Foveated rendering will help a lot on the upcoming next gen VR

[@retrosimon9843]

Half-Life: Alyx ?

[@animeshpande1915]

@@colbyboucher6391 Exactly that's why its still at least 5 years away to be realised in VR.

[@estebangomez7955]

In 10 years VR is gonna be insane

[@5izzy557]

One day... maybe 20 years, is the number I'll pull out my a$$

[@sapan.p]

The demo was incredibly impressive. I just wish it was available on pc...

[@MichaelDoesLife]

It's really wasn't, but OK

[@lemmy154]

@@MichaelDoesLife you again

[@Tjmoney4200]

Michael does crying

[@skydiamsteam6005]

@@MichaelDoesLife We don’t care about you but ok

[@YoungMachette]

@@MichaelDoesLife well you have to admit his graphics with that profile pic. Really gives him every right to be so edge.

[@Cangaca777]

Neo in this demo looks better than the cgi in Matrix Reloaded! it's crazy how incredible technology has evolved!!

[@jeremygreisz4111]

keanou reeves is all about nfts hes part of problem ....

[@ls200076]

Imagine a game with these graphics, amazing gameplay, outstanding AI and incredible story. May take 5-10 years for that to happen but the possibility is higher now.

[@femto8402]

More like 5 years max, in ten years it will be the end of the ps5/Series era

[@ps2progamer814]

So gta 6?

[@Ray-dl5mp]

@@ps2progamer814 yea gta6 - hopefully rockstar looked at this demo and went that is where the bar is. They need to hit close to this.

[@VeggieBond]

@@Ray-dl5mp Maybe but I don’t trust rockstar anymore. They only care about milking gta5 + gta online

[@Ray-dl5mp]

@@VeggieBond true. But their last game was rdr2 and it was probably the most impressive overall open world game ever. So I will only doubt them if they don’t set the new bar next time.

[@orijimi]

Oh wow, you know it's some landmark shit when they bring Richard in for one of these.

[@carljthatsme94]

We're in for an insane gen. Imagine what smaller scale titles and full optimisation will bring

[@astroman310]

this is the true question

[@smokethatgameb9937]

For what UE5 is, it’s pretty sweet to see what the gaming world can look forward too :)

[@mtdubdachamp6917]

Fax. No matter what console you on its gonna be beautiful. I'm excited for this engine to really show off here soon.

[@Ray-dl5mp]

Exactly. We might have to wait a generation to really show this off in ideal like way, but at least we are close.

[@MoonSarito]

I really need to say, this is impressive, the Unreal Engine 5 looks very promising, it's shown to scale well with Fortnite even on last gen consoles ( and Switch ) and now demonstrates its graphics potential with Matrix on next gen consoles, I'm really curious to see what games will come out in the future that will use it. Can't wait for that.

[@smokethatgameb9937]

@@MoonSarito it’s really impressive 😁

[@arthurhex770]

Finally a game that actually looks next gen

[@k1z4cz3k]

It's not a game. It's a tech-demo.

[@halo3boy1]

@@k1z4cz3k Your mom is a tech-demo

[@arthurhex770]

@@k1z4cz3k ik ik ikkkkk 😑😑😑😑

[@TerraShockwave]

@arthur hex did you played rachet and clank rift apart ? if not go play that it looks next gen and plays great

[@JethroDyx]

@@halo3boy1 shut up dude

[@floppa9415]

I think a massive part of why this looks so insane is that they opted for a very realistic color palate and not a oversaturated modern "videogamy" one.

[@thewakandankingtchaka5331]

The world reminded me of the recent Yakuza/Judgement entries. Can't wait small team of developers to get their hands on this. Great stuff

[@LividCreature]

I think if Epic delivers all the tools in UE5 to everyone without a paywall or a big dev blockade we will be seeing some amazing creations. Additionally, if Rockstar isn’t using this for GTA6 it’s going to look cartoonish now that we’ve all experienced this.

[@thewakandankingtchaka5331]

@@LividCreature honestly though Rockstar and Naughtydog are the exception to that rule. I remember reading way back in late ps3 era that Naughtydog them self has a team developing engines for PS first parties and helping on their own engines. That may have now been transferred to Guerrilla Game possibly. And Rockstar had 1000+ developers working on Read Dead 2 which cost around half a billion to make. These juggernaut companies simply got the resources and time to make masterpieces with the help of master art directors. They will probably have most of these techniques implemented by the time their next games comes out.

[@mota2028]

Imagine a dead by daylight sequel in this engine

[@WillFaustCuber]

@@LividCreature I think Rockstar's in-house engine is probably advancing in a similar way to UE5, but just away from the public eye of course. For example what we saw with RDR2 on the PS4 was pretty crazy. I would definitely expect them to stay up to par with UE, but who knows until we actually see something from them haha.

[@eatenbyghouls1849]

If developers can hash out frame rate issues this would be phenomenal

[@MichaelDoesLife]

Nah, Spider-Man PS5 looks just as good. Nothing fancy about this overhyped tech demo.

[@metallicafan416]

@@MichaelDoesLife this demo from a game engine still in development does things Spiderman can't and is gonna be used in 1000's of games versus 1 cookie cutter series that's base gameplay is very similar to Spiderman 3 console generations ago. This gen I bet you won't ignore unreal engine 5 games and just play Spiderman 😉

[@quatz1981]

Super impressed that this is running on consoles. It looks tremendous.

[@megazenn22]

"Running" 50ms lol

[@ThePipojp]

Both consoles have GPUs that are between a 3060 and a 3060ti in raw power, of course they would run It

[@quatz1981]

@@ThePipojp Oh god ive started something here. Im well aware of the raw power of these systems. My point is that we are getting something of this quality on a home console. Its really showing what this gen is capable of which is something we haven't really seen yet.

[@mitchellratliff6268]

Y yall weirdos always downplay consoles xbox and Playstation exclusives are light-years ahead of pcs yall lucky yall lucky yall have xbox exclusive otherwise yall a have ps2 graphics with yall world of war craft exclusive lol

[@megazenn22]

@@mitchellratliff6268 this is the worst comment ive read all month

[@discod992]

I've been waiting for this one. This demo has me hoping for a new full fledged Matrix game. It's been too long and with this tech it could be amazing.

[@superbadisfunny]

@@ramonandrajo6348 the matrix is literally woke lol

[@RokkieSparrow]

@@superbadisfunny he’s bait

[@chiefsmainsqueeze9939]

Series S just keeps surprising me with all the things you get for 300$ it's a true powerhouse for the price

[@ericosv12]

@@RodrigoOliveira-to3xs Hello fellow Brazilian. I have a question, considering you were able to compare them on the spot: how far is the series s? You think the results indicate series s will be able to keep up with the quality? Ofc, with a lower resolution which is to be expected... I want to know how you feel. I love the series s, what an impressive little machine.

[@JaimeIsJaime]

It works on series S but that's about it

[@jamesryan3438]

Winamp! It really whips the llamas ass. Edit: totally got side tracked and forgot to thank you all for the amazing breakdown. You did great and thank you kindly!

[@HardTahc]

I never really understood why all these tech demo's were a huge thing, I guess until this one. This one I just go "Neat" at, mainly because this one is playable. "Here's what our engine can do!" isn't so exciting when there's nothing physical to back it up.

[@css1323]

The tech demo gets me excited for the future of gaming. Wonder how we’ll reflect on this in five years.

[@93redcamaroz28]

Spider-Man needs to feel like it’s this scale. The buildings feel SO much bigger in this than in any game I’ve ever touched.

[@amnril]

The lack of pop in and texture load is the real takeaway for me. Played on PS5 and came away very impressed.

[@VariantAEC]

@Let me offer you this Key words here *CLOSE TO NONE.* It's still everywhere in this demo though.

[@TerraWare]

@@VariantAEC There is some distant shadows pop ins but as far as assets there don't seem to be any.

[@VariantAEC]

On the right with the cars windows at 6:54 or with the red building center frame at 9:14 or again the car windows also center frame at 9:18 or even in the upper right hand in the slow panning city shot you can see a whole block loading in at 9:25, there are literally loads of shots in this video that showcase the problems with Nanite that should be plainly apparent. LoD swapping is still happening and in the actual Unreal video (on their channel uploaded yesterday covering the Matrix Awakens Experience) you see these issues repeatedly especially with regards to the way the bottom of the underpass structure is rendered overhead, Digital Foundry curiously omit the vast number of those shots in this 51 minute video however.

[@amnril]

@@VariantAEC your moaning astounds me. This demo is game changing to so many and here you are…. Complaining. Seriously, get a grip and understand this is seriously impressive.

[@VariantAEC]

@@amnril You _"get a grip"_ this isn't new. Literally everything here is an extension of older technologies which already work well. Nanite is literally Mesh Shaders with a different name which is an extension of Tessellation. All of that is an revolution from vertex and fragment shading drawing polygons to meshes... geometry shaders were first created and implemented in graphics APIs back in 2010 with OpenGL and 2007 with DX10, but versions of tessellation were used in PS2 games as early as Jak & Daxter (2001) and Ratchet and Clank (PS2). Anyway nothing here is that remarkable to me because without knowing it I was already playing some of the best looking games with groundbreaking tech decades ago. This is obviously the next step, but it's not anything that impressive because of the lack of variety. Sure this is the best looking demo city I've seen, but it doesn't push ground in the same way other actual games do. PS5 also leverages next generation geometry shaders. Nanite is software primitive and mesh shaders are hardware accelerated and PS already has some stellar geometry processing APIs which run the gamut which pushed old software to new heights even way back on PS2. Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart isn't exactly a showcase for realistic visuals yet even so we see scenes with massive amounts of unique content on screen and several different types of AI ridiculously detailed world geometry and textures running at the same resolution as this demo (or higher at points) while also maintaining 60hz performance with the appearance of full resolution RT via checkerboarding. So while R&C doesn't seem at all comparable to this tech demo it really is a lot more comparable than you think and we see that with Matvel's Spider-Man and Miles Morales which were made with PS4 in mind. Insomniac Games already stated they're working on better leveraging PS5 power including hardware accelerated geometry shaders which weren't used in either Spider-Man title or Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart. This tech will be utilized by all PlayStation developers and who knows how developers like Polyphony Digital might use the tech. PD were already using tessellation on cars since PS3 with GT6 and this trend continued on PS4 with GT Sport so who knows what exactly what GT7 will bring and that us just for starters.

[@rs-flamingo]

DF should collab with Corridor Digital, they’ve been looking a lot at Unreal Engine’s push into cinematic applications

[@SilverGeFer]

I really hope Corridor will review this demo. I’m sure they will

[@richardtucker5938]

Basically my two favorite channels

[@tacoface7047]

it looks incredibly close to uncanny valley, but the fact they've come so far to actually pass the curve is just amazing, it'll only get better from here on

[@transtechgirl8786]

This makes me excited for when we finally drop last gen consoles.

[@keithnmoore2]

Played this on PS5. Really impressive. Makes me excited for games that come out mid to towards the end of the gen

[@eSKAone-]

Excited for the revival of 30fps.

[@eSKAone-]

I'll wait for the PS5 Pro

[@Astristul]

What end gen?! PS5 & XSX are the last consoles launched as we know it. There won't be any future Xbox / PS6! The cloud gaming is the future!

[@Ray-dl5mp]

@@Astristul either way. You still need beefier hardware to run this type of game ideally than the ps5 and series x. It doesn’t matter if you’re playing the game on local hardware or not. The point is the hardware needs to be better

[@Astristul]

@@Ray-dl5mp the hardware will not be in your house! 🙂