The Mazda MX-30 R-EV Revives the Rotary...But It's Absolutely NOT What You Think!

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[@dmandman9]

A plug in hybrid doesn’t really need fast charging capability because it can operate as a hybrid for distance driving. And will only be used as an EV locally where it will be plugged in overnight.

[@C-Henry]

Definitely an interesting development. The 50 miles of electric only range would easily cover most commutes, while still allowing extra range for emergencies or vacations. All without the hassle of having to go rent something else as some would suggest doing. I hope to see more content on this one as it becomes available.

[@evang3943]

Agree. It's just a tough sell to convince people this approach is all they need, when it's the long EV range and fast charging that gets all the attention in pure EVs. The added weight of big batteries (that you carry around all the time) detracts from the overall efficiency of the vehicle. I'd like to go full EV (e.g., Kia EV6), but $50K?? Hopefully the MX-30 R-EV is priced right to be bottom-line competitive.

[@mpeugeot]

Super smart use of the rotary, because as a generator, it can be tuned for max efficiency and low emissions at one particular rpm to charge the battery pack. I would guess that a direct injection 800cc rotary could easily make more than 75 HP.

[@craigquann]

Yea the extra rpm probably helps spin the alternator/generator a little better for charging too. Nice to see the rotary coming back.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Yes.....but not at 2500 RPM...........Maybe 25....................Paul

[@AkioWasRight]

It's not smart. It gets worse mileage than their regular non-PHEV crossovers.

[@230k19]

Low emissions out of rotary is completely impossible.

[@mpeugeot]

@@230k19 at a stable and tuned RPM its possible with direct injection.

[@trustbuster23]

My first reaction to this was that it is a crazy idea. But when you think about it a bit more it actually makes a great deal of sense. The rotary engine can be very small and light and generate a lot of power for its size. And it will be very, very smooth and silky quiet. Yes, it will still be much less efficient than a traditional gas engine, and yes the engine seals will still eventually wear out and grenade the engine down the line. But for a vehicle that is a city car 90% of the time and rarely runs the engine at all, neither of those downsides much matter. You are getting all of the major benefits of a gas electric hybrid without nearly as much weight penalty, particularly if you leave that large gas tank 1/4 full unless you are going on a road trip. It is basically the idea of the Volt, but with a gas engine design significantly better suited for that backup purpose. It wouldn't surprise me if the internal combustion components in this setup weigh about half of what they did in the Volt. Unlike the first MX-30, this is potentially a very interesting offering.

[@worldtrav72]

IMO, unless there was a packaging constraint, they should have used more battery and a smaller gas tank to target 275 miles range. 50 miles EV range is not much…I’m living with 60 miles on i3 and routinely have to run the Rex on the way back from the airport 25 miles away when at typical highway speeds and temps 75-85F. Suspect these will sell poorly, but in future years those who pick them up cheap will be able to battery swap for 150 miles of range from next gen battery tech. Once they depreciate to be under the IRS cap for used cars, they could be a fabulous buy. One option is to lease where contracted resale is high, then buy it at end of lease at actual value.

[@trustbuster23]

@@worldtrav72 Yes, I would have swapped some gas range for a bit more EV range, but I suspect that $$$ constraints were more the issue. When you add more battery the cost goes up a lot. I've lived with a Volt and its 40 odd miles of range for a while now, and I agree with you that particularly in cold weather and when the batteries get some age/cycles on them, you want a bit more even for a city car.

[@johnburns4017]

The rotary is more efficient in power/weight. The rotary is a part time engine, so will last. It is lighter so less weight for the batteries to pull. It is the annual cost of fuel that counts.

[@avlisk]

Piston engine goes "boing, boing", Mazda engine goes "hmmmmmm".

[@dmandman9]

I remember that commercial well from my childhood. 😅

[@TalismanPHX]

I remember that from the early 70s TV commercials

[@markwoods6943]

I had a 1978 RX-7. That rotary was amazing. Great handling vehicle. Hope the rotary makes a comeback.

[@MiccaPhone]

How many kilometers or miles until the motor was defect or needed severe maintenance?

[@elmerperez5697]

@@MiccaPhone el mio tiene alrededor de 310,000 km con su motor original sin reconstruir, es un 12a 1985.

[@MiccaPhone]

@@elmerperez5697 thanks, I even understand this! :-)

[@Kurtiscott]

Had an ‘85 Rx-7. Thing was a total kick in the pants to drive. So, nothing but fond rotary memories despite the relatively short 150k average lifespan.

[@worldtrav72]

So if old rotary’s got 150,000 miles, then hopefully this one would last the life of the car as 70-95% of total miles traveled should be in EV mode. I’m at 78% EV mode on my i3 with the 60 mile battery range.

[@usmcvet0313]

I've been saying this is the way to go for a long time. The benefit of electric propulsion, with the advantage of refueling quickly at a pump. It utilizes the infrastructure we already have in place, without putting an unreasonable burden on the electrical grid.

[@donswier]

Well worded. Use electricity from home for most local trips. On long trips, use public charging IF convenient, otherwise use widely available & super quick gasoline refills. Never be hostage to sketchy public charging that's often ICED, occupied or broken.

[@isaiah123456wp7]

So they basically made this a Chevy Volt or Honda Clarity alternative. A decently high range plug in hybrid. If they kept the CCS fast charging, then it should be quite competitive. A good replacement for my Clarity. Hopefully the price isn't to bad. The original mx-30 was a complete waste of money. They definitely should've launched with this model

[@markcoopers1930]

This new one has a bigger gas tank and expected range than my Mazda3 turbo. Would love to see a comparison of the old i3 and this R-EV model. Just looked up the msrp of those old i3 and man.... Many people aren't able to make a full EV work, especially without extra home cost. This works for a lot more people for now, and you probably can get away with charging it with a standard wall outlet. I don't think anyone is looking to compare this to a full EV.

[@craigquann]

Plugin/range extender setups are the best of all worlds, gasoline range, and hybrid regen braking and full electric driving for in city/short trips. Plus a small back up power solution (if it's compatible) for your home in an emergency. Think that's a super important selling feature that more car companies should focus on. Vehicle integration as potential household power.

[@kuznacbendelejev6924]

​@@craigquann lmao

[@paulholterhaus7084]

@@craigquann Worst of both World's........Two separate engine types......Double complicated..........Just make the batterie a bit bigger and forget the additional power source..................Paul

[@craigquann]

@@paulholterhaus7084 it depends upon how you want to use it. I'm not saying it's the perfect powertrain per se. I'm pointing out how it's technically more well rounded and can do a little bit of everything. Long road trips, no problem. Putting around town on pure electric driving, no problem. Doubling as an emergency power source/generator for your home, if set up properly, could cover your ass for a few days possibly longer. So this Mazda isn't do much perfect itself, just the general concept. Like the new Ford lightning hybrid. 7200watt generator/battery bank. Being able to use a hybrid car in an emergency is a huge selling feature for some. Think of how many people already have backup generators at home, and it's cost... That's money you could save and buy a damn car.

[@gregkramer5588]

@@paulholterhaus7084 Or best. Maybe not this model but there is no reason to think PHEVs are going to have significantly more issues based on the data that exists.

[@x2c.diamundz]

Hoping this revives the RX sports car, even if it's a electric hybrid thing because of this setup, as long as it has ample power I'll be happy

[@KalleSWBeck]

This would have been much better with half the gas tank size and a bit more battery capacity 80 miles of range and a 6 gallon tank

[@sidneyrobinson9186]

Yes peoiple focus on the range, It is kind of important. Like Mpg is important to ICE vehicles.

[@minienigma]

Range is only important if people cannot find places to charge whenever, wherever they want, which is the state of the charging infrastructure we have now. Let see if gas stations are as numerous and located as charging stations are now -- would they still not care about the range of the car, but only its efficiency(MPG)?

[@mrgurulittle7000]

This EV finally has a soul.

[@Athingmaybe123]

To be fair ICE cars don't have souls either they drink them lol

[@mrgurulittle7000]

Soul is gasoline?? It's the engine, dude.

[@Athingmaybe123]

@@mrgurulittle7000 well way to make my already dumb comment come back on me and make me even more stupider lmfao

[@Athingmaybe123]

@@mrgurulittle7000 I tried to make the comment hurt when u read it just to show how dumb I be

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@ThePsycho Gamer. Apologies if I insulted you.

[@schmoab]

It’ll be Interesting to find out if this becomes a novelty or actually a reliable useful vehicle. There are a lot of RX-8s sitting around rusting because they need new engines.

[@minienigma]

Honestly, I was very interested in the pure electric mx30 when it first came out, but I decided against it not because of the range -- my Mini SE also only had about 100 miles range -- I was disappointed by the MX-30's abysmal efficiency and capabilities. It had a 35.5kWh battery, but still only gets about 100 miles range? Mini had a roughly 32.5kWh battery (about 28.5kWh user accessible), it was able to get 110miles or so range. Then there was the charging speed. while it advertised the same 50kW peak charging speed as Mini, but it typically charges at about 32-36kW, where as the Mini typically charges at 45-48kW. The Mazda significantly slower. I'm not really comparing the MX-30 with the SE per-se , but merely what other manufacturers can do -- go further and charge faster -- with similar battery size or less. So I was very disappointed at MX-30's capabilities -- it just feel like Mazda could have done better.

[@qx4n9e1xp]

I sincerely hope this new rotary works out for Mazda. Lots of nay-sayers in these comments, saying mpg is worse than Mazda's non-hybrids, rotarys will never be efficient or reliable, etc. That might be true, but we should be optimistic that the rotary was brought back, that Mazda is trying something different, and the new engine just might surprise us. It could probably be better at things we didn't think about then a mazda piston ICE.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Not gonna happen... canceled

[@LlyleHunter]

This is in fact how I thought Mazda would RE employ their rotary engine when I heard they were redeveloping it. Rotary engines emitted a great amount on wind down so it makes sense that in using the rotary as a generator they can monitor its operational speed. It’s a different concept than using it as part of the drivetrain

[@rotaryperfection]

This car works exactly like the 2nd gen Chevy Volt. 55miles of range pure battery plus a gas engine for cross country hauls. I have a 2014 Chevy Volt and it only gets 35miles on the battery. This is the perfect upgrade because of the same range and more usable interior room.

[@johnborges5938]

Finally a true series-hybrid vehicle. I suspect this configuration will satisfy the needs of a lot of people whose needs can't be met with a BEV.

[@cpftank09]

If they marketed this as a hybrid, it would fail hard. 26.6 mpg is horrible. Based on 320mi/12gal, assuming they don’t include the entire fuel capacity in their range figures. Pretty much every plug-in hybrid SUV beats that by a long shot. I would love to see a rotary agin, but I don’t think this is the way.

[@jacobfoster3021]

And my escape phev is rated 105 mpge. I think the all electric version of this is rated around 92 mpge average. And if I temember right they said the erev version is a little heavier than the all electric. And I think it'll start running the range extender at 40 percent battery capacity...

[@Sawyer1117]

I have a kymco 500cc four wheeler. I’ve had it since 2014 and it’s reliable as hell but its crazy to me that BMW I3 is using a atv engine to help extend range.

[@genebond]

It will be interesting to see what the MPG is once the 50 miles of plug-in charge is used up and you are running the engine/generator/motor...

[@sking2173]

Total advertised range of 372 miles on 13.2 US gallons … Not very good …

[@davehoffman515]

Being a rotary fan I'm interested but I'm not sure if it's big enough to replace our CX-5

[@markcoopers1930]

It is not, very much closer to a CX-30. Eventually Mazda will expand this setup to larger vehicles (they'll have to in order to get economies of scale). But this is more for someone who might want a 3 or CX-30 sized vehicle. I am a sucker for the doors though.

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Cancelled

[@webcomment8895]

Of course, people focused on the range of the MX-30. That’s a super important feature when it’s so low and it doesn’t fast charge. Most people don’t need to take cross country in their cars, but the MX-30 doesn’t even have enough range and charging to be practical to drive a couple hours away from home and back on the weekend.

[@seniorious4719]

It does however make sense as a city vehicle for just 1-2 hours of max drive time both ways included. Cheap, extra economical and practical. For a very very niche market, yes. That's what makes it so easily criticizable, when even something like a Hybrid Ford Maverick approaches 40mg+

[@webcomment8895]

@@seniorious4719 No. it makes no sense. It’s not that cheap. You can get a Bolt which is not great for trips, but you can at least drive over twice as far out of town without recharging and you can drive cross country with frequent 45 minute charging stops if you really needed to and it still costs much less.

[@johnbaumgartner4309]

This is the blend we need especially for a pickup then we can tow uphill. Trickle charger is fine for most who cares about charging just let the engine charge it .

[@ljpr360]

I Love mine, I don't need the range and the standard features are so much better than the competition. Ironically my first car was an Acura Integra so seeing the RSX promo was amazing!

[@mattolfson9230]

4:30 Ah! It's like the Chevy Volt (they deserve more credit than they get).

[@cartopia6161]

Tommy, I think you meant spinning tortilla (chip) due to its shape not spinning burrito.

[@samuelorellana2603]

The saying is spinning Dorito, rhymes with it and just one letter off sound wise

[@jalto10]

ahhh the cars and bigs competition has arrived! haha great video guys

[@MA9494AM]

When comparing prices with countries in Europe it's important to remember that VAT/Sales tax and other extra costs that adds to the MSRP in the US is included here.

[@gregoreosRGV]

Tommy is all grown up 👏🏼

[@johnb7430]

This is a power train design that makes sense. Low costs in the expensive heavy battery with an onboard generator. Locomotives have done this for decades. And operating at a single rpm / load the tune can be VERY efficient

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

Then why isn't Mazda making it???

[@g.richardson6883]

Very interested in learning more about this drivetrain.

[@RigiLiquid945]

PHEV's make a lot of sense as long as they are not too expensive, very fuel efficient and have good highway range.

[@michaelvella8511]

Looking forward to this powertrain and how it will perform.

[@k2229]

Its an APU, auxiliary power unit. Great idea

[@timingenkamp3973]

The horsepower of the rotary is of no concern as the wheels won't see any of it. The rotary is only going to charge the battery while spinning at around a constant 2000-2200 rpm. Mazda has stated that this setup will enable the car to reach mileage estimates of 1L/100km. The car will also feature a charging mode which will keep the rotary engine running to recharge the battery while idle/parked.

[@thejohnnerparty]

Since we would be using gasoline to move the car forward, what is the cost per mile for charging and gasoline?

[@mcspartan1227]

33 pounds lighter than an REW or a Renesis is not a lot. That has one less iron, ones less housing, one less rotor, half the E-shaft, and all the seals and gaskets. 33 pounds is one housing alone. Thats an XL dorito for sure. The displacement is 33 percent higher than a single rotor for an REW. Im invested. I hope no one buys them and the price drops like crazy and so i can buy all of them. -peace

[@ebels3]

I love this idea. And after Chevy killed the volt, there hasn't been any range extended EVs that I could find. 50 miles is still enough for my long commute one way. And I don't particularly like EVs, either.

[@joshuarosen465]

Either you like EVs or you don't, if you don't like them then stick to gas if you do then get a BEV. I love EVs and I'll never buy another oz of gas because my car and my yard equipment are all electric. I had a Volt which I brought in 2016. It was a great introduction to EVs because it had many of the benefits of an EV and at the time the Supercharger network was inadequate. But the Volt had the downsides of an ICEV, it needs regular service and it was much less reliable than the Tesla I replaced it with. It was also frustrating because 53 miles of range wasn't enough. It was so much better as an EV than an ICEV, I dreaded hearing the noise from the engine so I did every hypermileing trick to extend the battery range. With a Tesla I don't have to pick back roads instead of highways because I have enough range. And I can go everywhere I could go in the Volt because the Supercharger network is 100% reliable and there are chargers everywhere.

[@webcomment8895]

@@joshuarosen465This still works for people where the EV range works for them for 100% of their normal daily driving in all seasons, but want to have the gas backup only for rare road trips out of town and they also aren’t going to spend the extra money on a Tesla or just don’t like the Teslas currently on the market.

[@joshuarosen465]

@@webcomment8895 It's not extra money for a Tesla. The Model 3 RWD is cheaper than this car after the tax credit. Tesla's are made in America with American batteries so it's eligible for the full credit. This car is made in Japan so no credit.

[@webcomment8895]

@@joshuarosen465 We don’t know what the price will be for this car yet. Plus the tax credit is only temporary for cars you can take delivery of by March. Also, many don’t like how low riding the Model 3 is with it’s sports car style seat heights. To ride at a normal level, you need to bump up to the Y which is still very expensive.

[@ebels3]

@@joshuarosen465 I don't like EVs. They drive like crap, and have a planned obsolescence like any other permanent battery powered device. I also don't like Biden's high fuel prices, nor do I like the emissions fuel puts out. I live in the country and I travel via my car a lot and need the reliable mileage of an oil powered car. I can't afford to wait hours to be able to keep driving. I also want better efficiency so I don't have to pay so much for gas. The best option would be a plug-in hybrid, but the battery range is so low, it doesn't justify the cost over a traditional hybrid. Going to an EV with a generator is the next best option. You get the range of the battery for fuel efficiency and the range of an oil powered car for extended mileage. It's literally the best of both worlds. It's great that you like your Tesla, but I have not heard good things about them. They are a status symbol, like the Prius was when it first came out. There are better options out there and everyone is going to have a different opinion; think of iPhone v. all of Android. And I don't particularly like having to wait a year just to get the parts to have my car get fixed. If I'm keeping a new car for the next 10-15 years, you're damned sure it is going to be exactly what I want. So maybe don't be so pretentious as not everyone lives the same life as you.

[@citizentex5720]

I rode in a rotary RX7 when they were first invented. I was SHOCKED at how smooth and powerful they were. But the explanations are legion why a rotary engine doesn’t last, burns oil, etc. I hope the problems have been solved.

[@sking2173]

Engineers have been working on that engine for 65 years, and still haven’t gotten it right. Perhaps Mazda should have followed Nissan’s lead and chosen a small turbo …

[@pudermcgavin4462]

The rotary is tech larger than it's 1.3l displacement, it's how it's measured as only one of each lobe is considered it's displacement

[@dimitriosfotopoulos3689]

Agreed. It's a little known fact that the proper way of measuring a rotary's displacement is to measure all three chambers of each rotor, all three of which are producing power. Mazda has been lying about this for decades, and measuring just one chamber on each rotor. Which explains why an RX8 1.3L only gets 20 MPG on a good day. It's not really 1.3L, more like 3.9L. The real genius of the Wankel is that they packaged the equivalent of a 6 cylinder engine into a much smaller & lighter package, but opened themselves up to other issues like seals wearing out.

[@robertrobinson3861]

Only one rotor 'face' fires on each revolution of the main shaft. The rotor is obviously revolving at only one third the speed of the output shaft. Therefore, in a twin rotor engine, there are two firing per revolution. For example, a Mazda 12A (600cc per chamber - 1200cc total) engine is comparable to a 1200cc two-stroke in terms of displaced capacity per revolution.

[@johnborges5938]

The BMW i3 was crippled by administrative limits in order to be considered an EV rather than a hybrid. This Mazda is a true series hybrid.

[@mrdot1126]

there is only one glaring issue with small battery's... you deplete and charge them on a more frequent rate, thus the cycle count goes up, and the degradation process speeds up... just saying... i mean a regular person driving 40-60 miles a day, if you have a 300-ish miles battery car, you need to charge it not that often... but with a small battery like this which is "constantly" charged up by the "small" petrol based rotary motor, the battery will loos range compared to the "big boy's" fast...

[@alecmally5433]

As its now mid 2024, have you gleaned anything about 2025 changes/upgrades/facelifts?

[@joe1071]

Rotary is interesting. Word from mechanics is it’s an expensive nightmare to work on them if they need it

[@581rma]

Looks like Mazda is bringing back the second GEN Chevy Volt. Similar set up but the volt had a smaller gas tank 9 gallons is that

[@sking2173]

Doesn’t Mazda have a small SkyActiv diesel laying around somewhere ??

[@UltimateCARNUT]

So best case scenario, once the battery is dead at 53 miles..... you get 24MPG off the dorito.....this might make it the most efficient dorito engine ever but still dismal compared to conventional.

[@mak9x18]

Interesting, but bring back those flying triangles as main propulsion! My Rx-2 was a blast!

[@camer140]

I hope this is them spreading rotary costs across more volume cars to get is that next RX.

[@edd2184]

I say this is a great beta tester for a future RX- model. If this rotary does well and proves it's reliable.

[@MiccaPhone]

What's the fuel consumption at constant 120 km/h when running 100% on gazoline (i.e. with accu charge same before and after the test cycle)?

[@someotherdude]

That's the question to ask. I guess no journalist is yet driving this, I hope we can find out soon. I'm very interested in owning this car.

[@gregkramer5588]

I doubt it will be competitive.

[@MiccaPhone]

@@someotherdude I saw this Mazda has a drive mode which keeps the charge at a defined level, e.g. 50%. So if you start your drive with this state of charge, it should be easy for a journalist to determine the real life gaz-only consumption. Would be interesting for me if it had 4WD (because of snow and steep roads).

[@lise1255]

And 8 months later, I am still waiting to see a real review of this wonder, - and how it sounds and works in real life !

[@minienigma]

While it is an interesting idea, but I don't think people will be able to accept it. After all, people rejected CVTs that revs the engine at constant speed during acceleration, which is why car maker put in artificial "shift" points to simulate standard automatic transmission. This application will basically be the same -- engine revs at constant speed to maximize efficiency and emission to generate electricity while the electric motor propels the car forward....

[@markcoopers1930]

It should drive just like any other EV. But like the clarity plug-in the gas motor just kicks in to generate electricity. There's no "rubber-banding" on EVs like on CVTs, and because rotaries are smooth you shouldn't notice any difference in driving when it is on or off apart from noise if there is any.

[@thomas735]

Everyone has CVTs nowadays, people are warming up to them!

[@hankpeng]

There had to be other factors suppressing consumer interest of the MX-30. Our 2023 Mini Cooper SE basically has 100 miles of range and we love it as a city car. Apparently 43,744 electric Mini Cooper SEs sold during 2022, an increase of 25.5% over 2021. And everyone knows the range is terrible! Maybe Mazda didn't market it properly?

[@jacobfoster3021]

Only sold in CA

[@worldtrav72]

Sigh…was looking forward to 100 miles EV range + range extender. That would have meant less cycling of the battery and I was hoping for faster acceleration too. Now with the EV tax credit in US, I’m still thinking this is DOA…sorry…and I really wanted to upsize my i3.

[@talkandplay]

Less than 347 miles on a 50 litre tank, some are saying it is even less than that ..not sure how Mazda keep getting the MX-30 so wrong.

[@worldtrav72]

The BMW i3 range extender output is 34 hp and it simply doesn’t have enough output to stay above 70 mph over long distances & hold the charge. Thinking 75 hp for rotary in a much heavier vehicle like MX-30 will be similar. Will watch for top sustained speed without losing charge, but guessing this isn’t the road-tripper I was hoping it would be. 😢

[@sandervanderkammen9230]

That's why both cars were canceled

[@PriestP33]

It's basically a Chevy Volt but with a Rotary Engine. Cool

[@nunyabidness3075]

Does HP even matter here? I would think torque would be the better measure. In fact, the real information you want is mpg, right? Or how fast it charges the battery, so kW?

[@robertrobinson3861]

When running a generator, output power is the whole aim of the setup. Torque doesn't really factor into the game except as far as keeping revs to a sensible level. After generating losses are deducted, what power is left of the original amount translates directly to what energy in is going into the battery. More 'HP' means more output charge.

[@danu65]

Sounds like a good replacement for my Volt.. 😁

[@hellogoodbye.]

I have i3 Rex. I jail broke it with Bimmer tech. I drive everywhere on gas. I fill it up 2-3 times a week which is annoying. BMW missed the mark on that set up. 10 gallon tank with hybrid mode and it would have been one of BMW’s best sellers.

[@AkioWasRight]

So, worse gas mileage than a CX-5, CX-30, CX-50.

[@Sgemblunx]

I think mazda got things right.. By using high reving rotary as generator (more rpm ur make equal more volts obviously) at the same time reliant on electric motor torque which rotary weak on.

[@directorjustin]

This would have been great if Mazda didn't slash the battery size in half. What were they thinking? I think sub-$40k EVs are going to leave this in the dust in terms of sales and performance.

[@kevindavis8143]

So a gen 1 Volt? A rotary can be very efficient in a narrow rev range, but I wonder how they are getting around the emissions of planned oil burn 🤔

[@sking2173]

Judging from the fuel mileage stats, this rotary isn’t very efficient …

[@kaliman198117ify]

@TFLnow, are there any news about a future RX-7

[@jroch41]

Mazda please FIRE designer who made clam doors on MX-30 R-EV. It needs to be a real 4-door if Mazda wants to sell it IMO.

[@johnburns4017]

What is the rpm of the rotary?

[@jharris280zx]

Mazda wants to see how the rotary works in this application, with a new design there are a lot of unknowns, i'm sure they will put these in their fun cars later after they have proven reliability in vehicles that are known for being neglected (crossovers, SUVs). it's also one of the most popular sizes of vehicle which will give them more feedback as it will sell more than some of their sporty models, they cannot afford to risk this kind of major change on something that is established or risk losing those customers.

[@OldThomMerton]

There we go. I assumed that the MX-30 EV was just a poorly marketed introduction to test the chassis and basics until they had the rotary range extender worked out. Now, the question is, will the kinks be out of the rotary or will it be another mess like seemingly every one of it's predecessors? I really do hope this one works for Mazda.

[@someotherdude]

Yep and the only place containing enough clueless buyers would be CA, lol. They only sold a few hundred, I think

[@HaroldCombs]

It’s a fundamentally flawed design. Great power to weight and rpm capability…neither of which is pertinent here. BMW i3 with a reliable (boring) motorcycle engine is all that was needed.

[@OldThomMerton]

@@HaroldCombs . . . unless you want to do an extended trip. As Tommy said about the i3, the generator is nearly worthless once you start climbing hills.

[@devonbikefilms]

Mazdas desperate last throw of the dice. They’d have done better spending the money on bigger batteries. It won’t stop them going broke shortly.

[@markcoopers1930]

Holy cow the bots

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

0:11 spinning burrito? 🤣🌯

[@wzDH106]

370 miles of combined range on a 13 gallon tank. That's frightening. A Gen 2 Volt would do 420 miles combined on 8.9 gallons. This engine must average 25 MPG.

[@wzDH106]

@@romari2706 The Volt is wider and longer. Either case, a horrible MPG figure where a Kia Niro will do 45 -50 MPG for apples to apples

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Burrito.....bruh come on

[@dmandman9]

In other words, it’s a Mazda plug in Hybrid.

[@hadesomegamoto7639]

Man my Rav4 Prime could get 50 miles of range if I hypermile it.

[@chrisecker9341]

Now power the Wankel engine by hydrogen and we are on point.

[@rickknowlan8949]

I pay for KZbin premium and don't want ads in my viewing. This is the last video of yours I will watch.

[@EricFB]

I’m sure it’s nice today but you need to ask yourself. Would you pack your family into one that was 10 years old and go for a 5hr road trip in Minnesota in the winter?

[@someotherdude]

with the rotary engine? Yes.

[@markcoopers1930]

Minnesota? Why?

[@EricFB]

@@markcoopers1930 Harsh conditions, unlike winter in Texas for example…

[@markadams5823]

I have a couple of rotary engines. They are fast but their gas mileage sucks

[@pkaps5799]

Haven't they ever heard about small displacement turbos? How on earth they are still mainly insisting on underpowered engines and now again rotary engines that were put to sleep some time ago with the discontinuation of the rx-8? Wasn't the exact same rotary that plagued the otherwise excellent rx-8? Why do they bring it back in a car that in theory would have helped them to make the big step forward to electrification? All in all a bad combination, they should do it the Toyota and Honda way on similar projects, no wonder these 2 companies are top and Mazda still struggles.

[@K6GSXRider]

Personally, this was very disappointing from Mazda. I was hoping for the current battery range PLUS a range extender. That way I could do 99.9% of all my driving and have the generator as a back up for longer/unexpected trips. Cutting the battery means I need to constantly use the full battery then rely on a hybrid that gets 8L/100km. Sad.

[@cazbantu4233]

This seems the best a good concept but to compete this car will need a new luxury exterior design.

[@jharris280zx]

Can't wait to see what Rob Dahm does to the new one..... in 10 years.

[@ranig2848]

While I think there might still be a reason to have hybrid pickups (especially for towing), the age of hybrids is over. Having driven a Tesla on long road trips, with a decent charging network (still evolving for non Tesla but will happen in the next 3-5 years), there’s absolutely no reason to have a hybrid. The longevity of this Mazda will be questionable since we all know rotary engines have longevity issues and a smaller battery means more charging cycles from empty to full which will shorten its life… I would never even consider buying this hybrid - though if they offered it on a lease, it might be a decent option for those with range anxiety

[@ChicagoBob123]

So it's a pluggin hybrid and a complicated car that needs a ton of maintenance and no mechanic will be able to fix

[@brianfloster2609]

Great, so now when you're just out of warranty you not only get to replace a battery pack, but also get to replace apex seals!! 😏

[@532keithj]

i think he meant dorito. what is a spinning burrito?

[@sking2173]

I thought he was just trying to be funny …

[@gregkramer5588]

I do not see this having success. I like Mazda and hope it does but......

[@jacksmith7726]

So it's exactly what I thought

[@f__e__e__l__e__e__p]

So it's gonna burn the whole tank in 600 km?

[@f__e__e__l__e__e__p]

That's 8,3 l / 100km plus the charging cost??

[@DouglasLippi]

If they had kept the larger battery I would have bought this to replace my Volt. As it is, nope.

[@lenggenhagermarkus6964]

how stupid. Mazda will not survive the electrification

[@nix4644]

AWD?

[@will1977a]

Did he say “spinning burrito”?🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@joshuarosen465]

It's going to sell about as well as liver flavored ice cream. Rotary engines are really inefficient. This car is only getting 26MPG, that's horrible. When I had a Volt I got 44MPG on it's gas engine and the Volt was quicker. There is no point to EREVs anymore, plugins are only useful to people who have home charging and if you have home charging why wouldn't you just buy a BEV. The Model 3 RWD after tax credit will be the same price or cheaper than this.

[@directorjustin]

I think it would have been smarter for Mazda to spend the money they did on this range extender on DC fast charging infrastructure instead.