The MCU DOESN'T Understand Spider-Man

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@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
DISCLAIMER: This video is not a personal attack on anybody. If you love this version of Spider-Man, that's great! Just remember to keep a healthy and non-toxic discussion in the comments. The purpose of this video is to share my own opinion. But I'd love to hear yours! 💙
@EagleTronStudios
@EagleTronStudios 2 ай бұрын
You’re editing skills are crazy insane. Good job keep up the good work.
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much bro!!!
@blubrrybeanie
@blubrrybeanie 2 ай бұрын
I personally love TASM 1, but I'v only recently come to appreciate Tom's movies as a unique take on his character instead of trying to see it as a 1 to 1 retelling of the comics. I liked the video bro!👍🏾 Also I recognized the pizza tower music in the background lol
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
@@blubrrybeanie Yeah! The MCU movies are pretty good on their own, it's just when you look at them through the lens of an adaptation that their flaws come to the forefront. And thanks so much!
@jaddenn7660
@jaddenn7660 2 ай бұрын
I always thought that Far From Home instead of Peter being pressured to become the Next Iron Man, It should've been Peter having to deal with grief over losing Iron Man and that it reminded him of Uncle Ben and having to come in terms with that.
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
That would have been so much better!
@nitinnair4353
@nitinnair4353 2 ай бұрын
Can anyone recommend some novels that are similar to the Fantastic Four, in the sense that it blends elements and themes of family, action/adventure, exploration, and sci-fi together? Please recommend novels/books not comic books or graphic novels.
@wenbinx
@wenbinx 2 ай бұрын
Let them cook in spiderman 4
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
I believe they will!
@prettycoolguy-d2c
@prettycoolguy-d2c 2 ай бұрын
ngl homecomings my favorite since it has the most street level stuff, i like tonys cameos in it but i can see why people dont like this movie and im fine with it
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
Same! I do wish Tony had a smaller role though
@ImMaseMlexe
@ImMaseMlexe 2 ай бұрын
Mcu gave spiderman to much tech
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that's another issue I didn't really touch on. He's way too OP.
@ImMaseMlexe
@ImMaseMlexe 2 ай бұрын
Fr
@LJStopMotions
@LJStopMotions 2 ай бұрын
ROMANNNNNN
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
LUUUUUUKKKKEEEE
@nitinnair4353
@nitinnair4353 2 ай бұрын
Can anyone recommend some novels that are similar to the Fantastic Four, in the sense that it blends elements and themes of family, action/adventure, exploration, and sci-fi together? Please recommend novels/books not comic books or graphic novels.
@Comicclass
@Comicclass 2 ай бұрын
My favorite is the amazing spider man movies
@randomPATTA-ICICLE
@randomPATTA-ICICLE 2 ай бұрын
MCU SPIDERMAN MAKES ME DISLIKE SPIDERMAN
@アップルという名前
@アップルという名前 2 ай бұрын
I liked how the first couple of the mcu Spider-Man films are about Peter being his own hero but also include iron man and other characters which I didn’t like
@TomasVM3
@TomasVM3 2 ай бұрын
I like mcu Spider-Man
@dennybarkleysoueu
@dennybarkleysoueu Ай бұрын
If they hire @DoomBlazer, they can finnaly understand about Spider Man and make Spider Man 4 good
@dumi_chenu3730
@dumi_chenu3730 2 ай бұрын
I like mcu Spider-Man but he’s definitely not the most comic accurate.He gets the core values of Spider-Man right tho
@literallylloyd7678
@literallylloyd7678 2 ай бұрын
How is he not comic accurate ?
@dumi_chenu3730
@dumi_chenu3730 2 ай бұрын
@@literallylloyd7678I never said he wasn’t comic accurate but he’s not the MOST comic accurate he acts more like miles from the og Brian Michael Bendis comics
@TyronSpiveyBrown
@TyronSpiveyBrown 2 ай бұрын
@@literallylloyd7678 Honestly, he's most comic accurate Spider-Man actor at least.
@LightningBoltRaiden
@LightningBoltRaiden 2 ай бұрын
​@@TyronSpiveyBrownMore comic accurate than Tobey's Spiderman that's for sure
@TyronSpiveyBrown
@TyronSpiveyBrown 2 ай бұрын
@@LightningBoltRaiden Yeah.
@conyer8104
@conyer8104 2 ай бұрын
Say what you want about how the MCU handled spiderman, but you can’t deny how they’ve set him up for the future. He has no one to go to, zero stark technology, and a comic accurate suit. They really have to fumble the next movie to fuck it up.
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome Ай бұрын
Absolutely. They've laid the ground work for possibly the best Spider-Man, there's no way they can mess this up... Except there is because Sony exists.
@swordchannelfires
@swordchannelfires 2 ай бұрын
Ok, this video is gonna collect lots of controversies, as not only was the whole “marvel doesn’t understand Spider-Man” shtick outdated since 2019 (as they have proven that they not only do, but they just prefer to write a different take), but most of the corroborations u used here don’t back out some of the claims u had, like Peter refusing a spot in the avengers, he didn’t even become an avenger by his own choice so why is this a problem now all of a sudden? Sorry if this sounded either rash or provocative, I just don’t like the idea of the video and most of the corroborations used here, still ur channel is pretty good overall, keep up the good work
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
1. That's okay, you don't have to like the video. 2. I never said Marvel doesn't understand the character. I said the Marvel Cinematic Universe doesn't. I understand they're writing a different take on the character but when you write a Spider-Man(a character who's known for dealing with the world's crap on his own) who never mentions Uncle Ben and gets mentored by a billionaire that doesn't scream "understanding Spider-Man" to me. I'm fine with it being a different take, I and many others just don't like it. 3. He could have just said "Oh, I'm just here to help" or literally anything else lol I'm not saying it's the end of the world that he became an Avenger, it's just not like the character to do that. If you read the comics you should know he's the type of guy that works alone, he even refuses to join the Avengers multiple times. And thank you!
@SquidowuidoLobder
@SquidowuidoLobder 2 ай бұрын
@@ZoneOfRomethey mentioned Ben in homecoming and Far From Home
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
@SquidoWuido When?
@blackbolt6027
@blackbolt6027 2 ай бұрын
​@@ZoneOfRome Saying the Marvel Cinematic Universe doesn't understand Spider-Man but then also saying I understand they're writing a different take on the character just sounds weird. its like saying "I understand but at the same time I don’t"
@SquidowuidoLobder
@SquidowuidoLobder 2 ай бұрын
@@ZoneOfRome In homecoming it was near the end of the movie (or middle, might be both) and Peter mentions Uncle Ben near the beginning in far from home
@plsdontbeahero
@plsdontbeahero 2 ай бұрын
Been saying the mcu just completely misrepresented Spider-Man
@jaythegreat1301
@jaythegreat1301 2 ай бұрын
That’s one of the things I didn’t like about mcu spider man they make it seem like he’s some sidekick like he’s his own man
@CraftsTimReview
@CraftsTimReview 2 ай бұрын
Personally even though I'm more of a fan of the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies, I still found the MCU Spidey movies a lot of fun rewatching, especially Homecoming because I do love the character growth of Peter learning that he doesn't need to be an Avenger to make himself happy. The only cons that I have MCU's take on Spidey that I can think of is that I wish there's an animated origin story because when Spider-Man: Freshman Year was announced, I was hoping that it would be a great opportunity to see how the MCU would do their own spin of how Spidey got his powers, only to find out that the show isn't canon to the MCU.
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
10000% yes for everything here 😂 I REALLY wish Freshman Year was gonna be his origin man, I thought that too at first. It really sucks that it won't be, but at the same time that also gives them more creative freedom.
@comicbookking3446
@comicbookking3446 2 ай бұрын
How would you feel if Peter kept the Iron Spider suit only in Infinity War and Endgame establishing that the Iron Spider suit was meant for Peter after he joined Iron Man’s side along with keeping the Iron Spider suit comic accurate ?
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
That would have been perfectly fine as long as he got rid of it after or it got destroyed or something
@learn_gk
@learn_gk Ай бұрын
Tobey Maguire is the best spiderman. Let's see if any Tobey fans here.
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome Ай бұрын
I agree he's definitely the best but he's not my favorite personally
@hoomakoa
@hoomakoa 2 ай бұрын
Far From Home was ATROCIOUS
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
Honestly imo it's not as bad as everyone says but it's definitely the worst of the trilogy lol
@Mr-doom-43
@Mr-doom-43 Ай бұрын
7:01 Nuuh I subbed 20 minutes ago
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome Ай бұрын
THANK YOUUU
@Bashii64
@Bashii64 2 ай бұрын
"YOU aren't subscribed" I am! I am! Put the gun down!! (Great video btw)
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
WOOOOOOO
@RomeAnims
@RomeAnims 2 ай бұрын
I agree with all. 🌞
@Anupamprime
@Anupamprime Ай бұрын
Hate to Bust your Bubble But MCU handled him way better than Raimi or Tasm Series Did
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome Ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree! 👍🏽
@zzay3345
@zzay3345 2 ай бұрын
Algorithm
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
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@blissvii
@blissvii 2 ай бұрын
Whole video is invalid fr because it's not like Tobey's or Andrew's Spider-Man is comic accurate either. These are all different versions of Spider-Man and it's not supposed to be a copy of the comics
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
It's just my opinion, so being valid or invalid doesn't really apply at all, but ok. I never said it had to be a copy of the comics. Andrew is literally my favorite and he's way different from the original 😂 I'm okay with it being a different take on Spider-Man, but we as a community are allowed to speak up if he doesn't act like himself. Different people like different things.
@Sjono
@Sjono 2 ай бұрын
Far From Home pressuring Spider-Man to become the next Iron Man not only disrespects and devalues Spider-Man but Iron Man as well. They make it seem like a person as major as Tony through all he’s accomplished outside of being a superhero can be easily replaced rather than just letting him stand and a figure Not a fan of every person being a mantle that needs to be replaced.
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
Fr! Tony's legacy deserves to be respected, and Spider-Man taking it on just doesn't work.
@Sjono
@Sjono 2 ай бұрын
@@ZoneOfRome Like imagine as soon as MLK died, society as a whole went “well who’s going to be the next MLK?”
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
😂
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 2 ай бұрын
@@ZoneOfRomeyeah like they Ignored War Machine for no reason as like Spider-Man the MCU doesn’t get and have ruined are also Thor and Hulk as Hulk is a more reluctant hero because he never asked for the power and wants to be cured of the Hulk, Thor on the other hand is a different can of worms if you have seen the MCU villain problem videos especially since making the MCU Spider-Man villains be connected to Stark which is pretty lazy
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. They really did forget about War Machine 😭
@OPrime_Edits
@OPrime_Edits 2 ай бұрын
7:01 pfff liar....I am Subbed
@Venom_zm
@Venom_zm 2 ай бұрын
nah its not them its the community they don't get spider-man, every universe has a different spider-man with a different origin
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
I don't think so, but you can have your own opinion. It's okay that this is a different take but we as a community are allowed to speak up if this version doesn't act like Peter Parker.
@dumi_chenu3730
@dumi_chenu3730 2 ай бұрын
7:24 No Rome don’t die of loneliness!😭
@jack_spidey90
@jack_spidey90 2 ай бұрын
its true lmao
@aprizuniverse
@aprizuniverse 2 ай бұрын
good vid
@AkaMantheBear
@AkaMantheBear 2 ай бұрын
The title:😕🤔
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean by that 0:55? Yeah I could say a lot but we would be here for a long like years ago before Amazing Spider-Man 2 came out I always wanted Andrew Garfield to be the MCU Spider-Man like keep the first movie the same but change the rest of Amazing Spider-Man 2 One thing none of the Spider-Man movies haven’t done yet is looking at the organised crime side of things like there could have been missed opportunities in those previous movies and that they are going to do another multiverse movie for the MCU Spider-Man 4 which makes No way home completely pointless because they should have stick to the fugitive subplot and the sinister six instead wipe it off like it never happened and speaking of have you seen Across the spider Verse?
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
I meant that they never mention Uncle Ben lol but that whole organized crime thing is definitely the direction everyone wants, it would be so beneficial for this version of the character post-No-Way-Home. And I did see ATSV! The first one's still better imo but I loved every second of ATSV.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 2 ай бұрын
@@ZoneOfRomeyes and he got was his name in the briefcase in Far from Home, I forgot that this Spider-Man has some Peter Pan syndrome and as for Across the spider Verse what do you think about this canon thing like how does it work and if there isn’t any then what really happened to Miguel as I really want them to address in the sequel
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
He got his name on a briefcase yeah but I don't count that as a mention. It just bothers me because he's always been such an important figure in Peter's life and nobody's even said his name once. For ATSV I'm not too sure but my theory is that maybe it's because of the spot that Miguel's alternate universe was corrupted. Like maybe every time he opens a portal it comes at the cost of a universe, unbeknownst to him. Idk it's just a theory lol
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@ZoneOfRomeyeah exactly like when he meets the Sandman and the other Spider-Man they did sorta mention Ben but he didn’t seem to notice it as the same when Vulture said about Stark he just shrugged it off like it was nothing, especially that why five villains by saying that they knew Peter is Spider-Man which that doesn’t make sense especially for Electro because he never knew who Peter was and he never interact with Peter Parker outside the costume in Amazing Spider-Man 2 it’s like Batman and Penguin in Batman Returns Don’t you mean erased from existence for Miguel’s alternative universe and it would make sense for the Indian Spider-Man universe as Miles save the police Captain and as Miguel says that he was not meant to be Spider-Man because the spider was not meant for him as it was meant for the earth 42 Miles and he ended up being twisted. This is a video I highly recommend called Peter Parker is Broken.
@Spark_0076_w
@Spark_0076_w 2 ай бұрын
Yooooooo
@Nobody_Shroom
@Nobody_Shroom 2 ай бұрын
For the most part I agree, but I don't really understand how him keeping the iron spider suit is that big of a deal. Like, why wouldn't you keep the suit that's better in every way and was forced onto you in the first place? Maybe I just missed something (I'm not exactly bright after all) But overall, good video
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
It's really just the symbolism of it and what it represents.
@Nobody_Shroom
@Nobody_Shroom 2 ай бұрын
@@ZoneOfRome Ah, that makes sense, I guess that just went over my head, lol
@spider-man500
@spider-man500 2 ай бұрын
The fact that he has access to such a powerful suit whenever he wants is bad. Peter is famous for using his own initiative and limited resources to win the battle, it's his charm. By having the Iron Spider available at all times, it Removes the threat of the situation, it removes Peter's more down to earth nature
@Nobody_Shroom
@Nobody_Shroom 2 ай бұрын
@@spider-man500 Yeah, I have no idea why I didn't think about that, lol.
@MooDog_Draws
@MooDog_Draws 2 ай бұрын
WOOO! LES GOOO
@LJStopMotions
@LJStopMotions 2 ай бұрын
BACK WITH A BANGER
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
WOOOOOOO
@Droneman711slurpee
@Droneman711slurpee 2 ай бұрын
did they not fix all this in nwh?
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome 2 ай бұрын
We don't really know yet since we haven't seen anything at all post-No-Way-Home but I sure hope so!
@spider-man500
@spider-man500 2 ай бұрын
Yes, but the fact that it took THIS long to do so is bad. He shouldn't of been like this at all
@JanmarcoFortoul
@JanmarcoFortoul Ай бұрын
This is such a dumb title, it has nothing to do with the video. You should change it to something like "I don't like Spider-Man: Far From Home" so that it better represents the video.
@ZoneOfRome
@ZoneOfRome Ай бұрын
The video is about why they don't understand him as a whole, so I think it's a great title. You don't have to like it 😂
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