The Meaning of the Titanic

[@RatOnDaKeys773]

KZbin needs more longform educational content from academics. This video is a prime example. A higher standard of content vs shortform clickbaity History content. Keep up the great work.

[@peterd4579]

I completely agree! I "discovered" this amazing channel a week ago and it has been my absolute favorite ever since. Thanks Sean for all your interesting and captivating historical documentaries and all the effort you put into them! Best regards- Peter "Dragonlake"//Sweden

[@shmackydoodRon]

It’s out there. The algorithm won’t push it though. Gotta search.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

Just six minutes into this very long episode Sean Munger demonstrates that he hasn’t done his research properly, so I have to conclude that the rest of this monologue is full of errors and not worth my time. Some people talk and talk and talk and still say nothing. I watched a few of Sean’s shorter presentations and subscribed because I liked them. But in this episode and his closed-minded, three-hour plus speech on the JFK Assassination, he demonstrates beyond any doubt that he hasn’t looked at all the possibilities. He’s been very subjective when objectivity is what’s called for, so in the future I will listen closely from the beginning for any of his biases and factual errors, and if hear any more rookie mistakes like what he said about why so many of the travelers on the Titanic died, I will probably unsubscribe on the spot.

[@daniellivingston7699]

@@lumberlikwidator8863so you’re a conspiracy theorist who’s butthurt about the JFK video. Got it.

[@tommycaraway9762]

This is great stuff.

[@user-jm4el1dn9c]

Videos about the Titanic are a dime a dozen, but I love how you approached this as a lens to explore so much else. It's the long, complicated part of history-- but also what I love about it.

[@SeanMunger]

Thanks! Exactly what I set out to do.

[@Phylonyous]

For reals! I love the unbiased, in-depth and well organized approach to curiously interesting topics!

[@geekmeee]

What you said.

[@terrywaddell1767]

😮

[@sarahbrown6493]

Just wanna say that I’m so glad you decided to continue the long form content here. I found your channel through the Iran contra video and I think I’ve watched basically everything you’ve posted now lmao. I studied history in college and I really missed having access to people with your level of expertise who communicate without the youtube clickbait history stuff. You’re a great teacher and I look forwards to whatever you choose to talk about next :)

[@SeanMunger]

Thanks so much!

[@SuperStrik9]

Agreed. I love the long form videos.

[@sunnyadams5842]

Yes!! I was dispairing of ever having an intellectually interresting conversation ever again since COVID. Your videos come close enough to that to stay my sense of nothing making sense any more for awhile longer. 😂😂❤😂😂

[@reygordo]

Stick to the long form please. I thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish.

[@DataLal]

At the start of every single long-form video of yours (that I've seen, anyway), you say you don't expect people to watch straight through from start to finish, and to use the chapters to nagivate the video instead. I don't think I'm an outlier when I say that I LOVE watching these videos from beginning to end in one sitting. It's like a fascinating University lecture with fun "slides" and book props to boot, or a great book I have to keep reading into the night because I can't put it down. Although considering the office setting, it also resembles the best Office Hours with a prof EVER. Still, I appreciate that you DO make the effort to put in chapters with titles for these videos - it gives my ADHD brain guideposts to latch onto so I'm less likely to veer off into the comment section [while the video is still playing], or go off on an internal tangent - which means less having to repeat sections of the video [3-5 times until my brain finally pays attention] or just give up trying, thereby missing valuable information that I could have otherwise gleaned. The best teachers also divide their lectures into chapters, or sections, to keep interest going. So, all this is to say: you're an excellent, engaging teacher, and please keep the long-form videos coming!

[@bobtaylor170]

So, I'm not the only one whose "interesting" brain keeps forcing him to go back time after time after time to rewatch things!

[@MrNb131]

I've been a history fan for a long time. Most youtube history content isn't brand new information to me. This channel is different. I'm constantly learning new things here. Thanks!

[@rainingfallout3043]

Such a shame such quality content doesn't get the veiws it deserves

[@ryanschweikhardt]

He doesn't get the views because he tells actual history. Conspiracy theories are what get all the views on KZbin unfortunately

[@BrutalSnuggles]

Part of me loves it. Feels like we're in a private club

[@pullt]

These feel like a lecture you'd get from a quality professor in college or a community event. There's far fewer people who consume that content rather than merely watching a flashy "The REAL secrets of the Titanic" on History channel.

[@ianmarshall1574]

It just got another fan. Deserves many more.

[@froggyspond1133]

A year later, it’s finally getting around through the algorithm. I’m a new sub, this stuff is great

[@cathe8282]

Dude! So good. I like your "quiver" theory and think it's got merit. I like long lectures and your style and concise-ness (probably not a word) keep me very engaged.

[@jennifer60515]

How about brevity? That’s a word you could use rather than conciseness. But I think they are both words.

[@KRISTIANITY_]

I'm having this kind of 'proud tower collapsing' moment in my life as of 2020. Before that, yeah, I had my own problems like any person. But I was living in a bubble, thinking ever since WW2 ended, those kinds of massive catastrophes were a thing of the past, and our modern age was an age of perpetual peace and prosperity. And then Covid happened. Then Russia invaded Ukraine (I live in Eastern Europe). Now the Palestine horror. I feel like the world has been crumbling steadily for the past 3 years, and I also feel as if there's something even larger looming over all of it. I think we're getting close to our own version of Titanic. And I'm a complete atheist, so I'm not talking about some kind of mystical apocalypse and stuff. Just a massive societal draw-back.

[@martinalewis2844]

I agree 100%

[@borginburkes1819]

The world is ending

[@KRISTIANITY_]

@@borginburkes1819 It's not, we're gonna be fine. There's just gonna be some kind of a crisis.

[@user-ok8yq6nc6x]

If that's what you thought, then you weren't paying attention to world events Many, many similar events happened between ww2 and 2020. It's nothing new and the world isn't crumbling

[@lukebarry1417]

I’m an Irishman myself and was pleased to see your recognition of the mistreatment of my ancestors, a large majority of the worlds population - propagandised by their colonial/ex-colonial nations - is ignorant to the plight of the Irish. Thank you!

[@jaded_burgher9702]

Just found your channel yesterday through your epic of debunking JFK conspiracies, I love your form of organization in your essays, it makes it very accessible and shows how passionate you truly are about reclaiming history especially with all the slop these days. Anyways, keep it up man, subscriber for life! ❤️👍

[@bobtaylor170]

This channel's two part JFK assassination video is first rate, greatly needed work. It's a delight to see such rationality and sheer sense on display. There is one other thing on KZbin which is extremely different from this video, but which complements it well, LEMMiNO's computer graphic re - creation of the assassination. It's primarily about where the shots could have come from ( hint: only that sixth floor corner window ). It's one of the best things I have ever seen.

[@coherbia]

Even having watched several of your longform videos, I didn't expect this to be so riveting. Thank you for doing this and making it available for free!

[@Jgiordanono]

This was one of the most well said and thought provoking videos I think I’ve watched on KZbin in some time. In particular I feel humbled by your theory that we are currently feeling the quivers of another great catastrophe due to our belief in the cult of technology and I cannot stress enough how profound you putting it that way in relation to one of history’s great tragedies the titanic is, and that much like that poor woman clutching a St. Bernard in the frozen Atlantic we may all be bodies grimly disposed of by value too if we do not start making more thoughtful and future positive decisions as a society. This video truly felt like being shaken to my senses almost and again I can’t thank you enough for making it. I’d really love to see your channel get more views because this was truly a masterful video.

[@heathalysa]

I know right! His videos are awesome

[@tonymontana8741]

You're a great historian. I think that historians more than anybody else need to approach historical events through various lenses and that is exactly what you do with every video. Very educational and informative, thank you!

[@StopLookingAtMyAmygdala]

Best channel on KZbin right now. Criminally underrated.

[@Tiglath-PileserXIX]

Sean, that was AMAZING. I am not an expert in history. History was an idle interest of mine. My profession has nothing to do with history. Barbara Tuchman was my original inspiration. The early 20th century is my favourite topic. Thank you for putting all these issues together in one compact story.

[@stevef]

Just found your content. Loved the Amway video. Been a Titanic “fan” for 45 years and this is a great video. Love how you tied social trends and connected other historical events. So many study and write on the Titanic in a singular manner. Great stuff.😊

[@alexburt6995]

To me it serves as a warning against mankind's arrogance. However powerful we might become, nature is far more powerful.

[@sidneycarniello5068]

Shelly would be proud

[@mrjones7222]

Those students are very lucky to have you as their History teacher sir... thank you for all your great work.

[@rycolligan]

Your point about the oblivious hubris preceding WWI being recapitulated in our present epoch is something I have been telling my friends ad nauseum for nearly ten years. I greatly appreciate the effort you put into elucidating the threads tied to this event.

[@bobtaylor170]

Yes, how else can the entrance of Ukraine to NATO have been fostered by the West despite Russia's repeated warnings that such a thing would be an intolerable infringement of Russia's proper sphere of influence?

[@stevematthews4489]

Love Sean's videos, really great stuff. One small "quibble": I find the word "quiver" confusing bevause in my mind it means a quiver of arrows or someone shaking. When Sean uses "quiver" as a metaphor for the first shakes of an earthquake, I think "tremors", but thats just me.

[@TheGangsterousG]

This is probably one of the best videos I've seen on KZbin. What a wonderful angle on the Titanic disaster.

[@sharonshea3261]

Your intelligent, long videos are the best thing on youtube. This one, plus the one on Manson and the one about Watergate, are amazing. The one on Watergate was so amazing I watched it a second time on the same day. It's such a relief from all the short, meaningless fluff. Bravo to you, Sean.

[@brendatrickler9016]

Bravo! My only quibble is your relative lack of mention of the flu pandemic circa 1918. I think that pandemic, carried worldwide via technology and war, was at least as great a shock as WWI itself. I also think the two events together triggered the hedonistic aspects of the 1920s in Western Europe and the US.

[@rootstockdesigninc.717]

Outstanding video - these long form videos of yours are brilliant and utterly engrossing - you are the least pretentious, and most well written historian I’ve encountered in a very long while - the scope of detail explored enriches the history you’re constructing and narrating - truly a thing of beauty - thank you

[@walkerh2745]

you are quickly becoming my favorite video essayist. keep it up, i enjoy these so much.

[@dionysuscreativellc7569]

Wow, your demarcation of this event as a quiver of the era is such a precise realization and wonderful account of that moment in time. You are becoming my favorite historian.

[@RWSCOTT]

great content, I like your quiver theory. re: 1:11:40 - reminded of the line in Max (2002) where Cusack's character (a survivor of the battle at Ypres) comments: "I've seen the future. Believe me, it came straight at us. There's no future in the future.''

[@peterpayne2219]

Super great video! I love your ability to dig meaning out of broad, potentially unrelated topics. In case you don’t know, there was a Japanese man on the titanic, his name was Masabumi Hispano,, and when Japan learned that he survived, he got trashed by the entire country. He was forced out of his government job, although he got it back a few years later. He was the grandfather of a famous Japanese singer, which is why his story is extra famous inside Japan.

[@spankflaps1365]

After the Titanic’s sinking, the Olympic’s crew in Southampton requested full lifeboat compliment for the next voyage. The WSL refused, so the crew went on strike. The crew were arrested and tried for mutiny. The judge found them all guilty, but immediately pardoned them, and ordered the lifeboats be provided. Then in WW1 the RAAF refused to provide parachutes for fighter pilots, in case they didn’t bring the plane back. This meant most of them crashed and burned. Fast forward to WW2 when parachutes were provided, 70% of Allied air crews shot down, bailed out and survived.

[@6ViolinRed]

Give yourself a moment to Google Joseph Laroche, the Haitian man aboard the Titanic who got his pregnant French wife and two biracial children on lifeboats but didn’t survive himself. Sean, genuinely thanks for addressing the diversity aboard the ship!

[@lemonlime5435]

Thank you for helping me realize that learning wasn’t something I ‘was just bad at’ in school. I’ve loved going through your longform content

[@Harry_Ballsonurphace]

And as it turns out, long form videos is your niche and my addiction. You are an AMAZING teacher

[@Suzyslly]

I found your channel recently and wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your long form, historical deep dives. Thank you and please keep them coming!

[@ReasonQuest]

"This is the kind of speculation best done between bong hits in your college dorm room." I LOVE it! This was an EXCELLENT treatment of this event. Thank you!

[@lucasmembrane4763]

The musicians in the small band on the Titanic did all die from the sinking. Their families received bills asking them to pay up for the band uniforms that they failed to return.

[@Paddy984]

I learn something new every time I watch your videos. However, you went above and beyond the usual in this particular one and incorporated so much more. Being Irish, the Titanic holds a special significance for me, and although I am a recent subscriber and have only watched about five of your videos to date, I am now completely hooked and intend to watch everything you have made available. Thank you.

[@lukebrown2236]

Thank you so much for this! Since I was eight years old and the movie came out I became obsessed with anything and everything Titanic but as I grew up I started reaching for non fiction material more and more. Now as an 30 year old adult I really appreciate someone taking a historical deep dive like this on the topic! Beats Kardashian Reality junk everytime. Two hours definitely not wasted and throughly enjoyed!🎉 Thank you!

[@jonemerson2386]

This is a completely refreshing and substantive way to look at this event, does deserve more views

[@dbeihl]

Love your work! I’ve been watching all your videos since I found you

[@Threewulphmoon]

Its a gift when a presenter has a voice like yours. Tonality, annunciation, cadence all make for a very easy listen.

[@karenokeane6461]

Your narratives are thorough, articulate and thought-provoking. Am most grateful to have stumbled upon your superlative content.

[@ljrt5010]

Sean, on this APR14, just sending you a note I've watched this a number of times start to finish. Wonderful insight and work. Clearly spoken, well formed hypothesis, in all, enjoyable to watch and re-watch.

[@kenosabi]

Another interesting point that connects to the larger picture: Isidor Straus was a US politician and member of the House of Representatives. He was vehemently against the forming of the US Central Bank fearing it would be operated by Wall Street, would give the gov too much power, and would harm the American people. He died on the ship along with his wife - he was unwilling to leave her. He was also correct - the central bank is indeed dominated by Wall Street interests and isn't exactly a force for good or even kilteted economic liberty. Great work as always. Thank you for your knowledge contribution.

[@charlessarver1637]

I like how you explained all the different groups aboard the titanic. Very detailed. Much I didn't know

[@vandon6402]

Such an incredible video, I'm glad you've stuck with making more longform videos.

[@frankforgett7409]

This video was totally successful from beginning to end, especially closing chapter. Extraordinary put together. Thank you

[@radkobachvaroff]

You knocked it out of the park with this Sean. I really enjoy the idea of a quiver

[@achillesheelys5139]

This is my favourite video of yours. I've never watched something so thought proving and rich as this youtube. Thanks so much for making this

[@jeremyd1869]

My second time through and I enjoyed it even more. Sean packs in so much thoughtful analysis that one time isn't enough. I'm sure I'll be back a third time.

[@kbr517]

This video is great! Loved the spread of topics covered and connected to this event. Also: BEST EVER introduction to bringing Jung and his crew into a discussion.

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

Masabumi Hosono and his family were the only Japanese aboard the Titanic. Masabumi's grandson, Haruomi, would go on to become an enormously influential musician

[@mikeborgmann]

The titanic actually affected me PERSONALLY. I went on a cruise ship and i was not feeling good! Just wanted to lay down in my room! But they MADE me go to the lifeboat drill, and i remember thinking "thanks alot TITANIC!!!

[@drkA666]

I bought The Red Book of Jung when it came out but never read it. Your video motivates me to do so. On the other hand I studied history and linguistics in France, and your scholar type methodology mixed with atypical and entertaining topics is a fresh air.

[@vanpelt2321]

Professor, I have written three books and one historical novel and yet you have sent me back to school. I can listen to you every day and, in fact, I do for the first few hours of my early mornings. Thank you for your exciting and eminently informative presentations.

[@theartfuldodger5326]

I love your videos, so informative & insightful. I feel like I'm back in college in my favorite history professor's class. I miss this level of intellectual stimulation! Thank you!❤

[@Iron-Bridge]

First time here on your channel. Man, I wish you were my professor. Love the level of detail and how you structure and present your points. Also got me to further research certain threads on my own and think critically about why certain outcomes came to be. I would not have been able to thread the different points the way you did here. ☝️👍👏

[@mtdavis9568]

All excellent points- this is a Doc that needed to be made! The Titanic was like a final Coda to the elements of 19th Century Western Civilization that Barbara Tuchman covered in "The Proud Tower". And yes, I always thought that the sinking felt like the opening act of the Symphonic Opera that was the Great War and the fall of the Eagles all across Europe.

[@bobtaylor170]

I think that in musical terms, Stravinsky's music was the theme for what was to come, but Titanic could certainly be seen as a grand, terrifying prelude to the grand, terrifying event of the war, and the destruction of the Old World order of Europe which followed. I remember a compilation of Duke Ellington's music which had liner notes on the back of the LP. The annotator referred to Ellington's music as one of the few delightful things which was produced in the 20th century. He described that 100 year period as "our sad, beat up century." That was understatement, in my view. And what about the 21st century, so far? Jesus Christ, help us, and that is not a curse, it's a plea.

[@debmccorkle4845]

In measuring the value of this comprehensive view.. gratitude for your work goes beyond thank you.. feels more reminiscent of a term of endearment. How fascinating to glean the world stage and begin to understand how all these facets evolved. I am immensely enriched by the definitive form of your lecture.

[@theboyisnotright6312]

Not sure i agree with all your conclusions but love your format. You have also gave this some serious thinking 😊.

[@TheWarriorprincess09]

A thoroughly stimulating discourse. Enjoyable from start to finish.

[@GenX_-um2ct]

In every one of your videos you chapter them very conveniently for me, and I never use the feature and listen from beginning to end. You are an excellent historian!

[@OrganicBeats1]

Sean, I love your modesty… But I have to say, your videos are best enjoyed watched in one hit beginning to end. Love your work! Thank you from London.

[@yokumato]

Top notch content, well worth spending the time looking at the whole video. Thanks for your work!

[@timflatus]

I like longform videos and video essays. 1912 was a pivotal year, in a way it was the year the 20th century really got going. I really appreciate just being able to sit down and take a deep dive. Thanks.

[@daniildanzig2842]

So. GOOD! Love your content, professor!

[@anitabunting7277]

I have always loved history and I think I love your channel more than any other one. I like your lengthy, detailed reporting. Please please continue doing it! Thank you so much.!!🎉

[@jimtalbott9535]

Meidener was, I think, drawing on something that was already known, but much less well known that it is now. Many of the images and facts of industrial war had already been seen, albeit on a limited scale, via other “quivers”, no less. The Balkan wars, the Boer war, the Boxer rebellion, the Spanish-American war, and even images from the American Civil War.

[@teresamanning5016]

One of the best videos I have ever viewed. I appreciate how you have integrated history pre and post Titanic . History cannot be viewed in a vacuum. History is a living topic like yeast. You have given me so much to think about including books that I want to read and meditate on. Ironically, Stravinsky is one of my favorites and have never thought about it as you discuss. "quiver's theory" shows such fascinating links between events. One of my current thoughts is about how Artificial Intelligence will impact us. Now I will begin looking for the reading material you have discussed. Keep up the great work.

[@apollofell3925]

2:01 Too bad, buster! I'm listing to this all the way through and not skipping a thing!

[@sethmeyer2443]

My grandmother's sister was born the same day the titanic sank. My grandmother who was born in 1908 said that was the first story she remembered that everyone was talking about all the time for years.

[@wolfgrade1955]

A brilliant video examining the impact of various events in those the times. Like the economy, politics, and life in general, it is certainly complicated to understand and predict; however, there are waves of social consciousness that are fascinating to examine in context and how they may have affected other significant changes in our world.

[@motshwari]

This is my favorite channel right now. Great work

[@Guitcad1]

The thing I don't like about 'The Guns of August' is that it's just a straight narrative. "This happened, then this happened, then this happened..." Tuckman doesn't write much about *_why_* things happened. Also, I had it on audiobook and the British narrator had the irritating habit of reading quotes in what he imagined the person's accent to sound like. And like everyone else who fancies they're good at doing foreign accents, he's not. So, for example, Ferdinand Foch, Josef Joffre, Georges Clemenceau, etc. all sound like they're being read by Pepe le Pew. I seem to recall a couple of quotes from Americans who, in the narrator's voice, all sound like Edward G. Robinson. "Yeah... *_see!"_*

[@martingooding8989]

Really interesting history of 'stuff' mildly linked to the Titanic. But even when society is confident about its technology and systems it's normal to have mistakes accidents & disasters, and it is normal that they will represent the society that they happen in - and the weaknesses of that society. These 'quivers' might be anything that makes people look under the surface of their assumptions. I think they might be an inspiration rather than have meaning. This is a really interesting channel. 👍

[@brutkastentv]

Easily one of the most informative and thought provoking videos I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing your research and the idea of the Quiver! Though I´m similarily sceptic about technology I must say that these are the moments when I just love the internet (:

[@brendonbonner3309]

I really liked this video. Most of us know about the Titanic sinking however this takes a fresh look and gives us race and gender and class and truly broad context. I liked how we are reminded that it was a ship built in Ireland by Irish people. Not often said. I appreciated the story of the Chinese on board, the fate of the Italians who worked in the restaurant that was contracted on the ship. Your mention of Ludwig Meidner (1884 - 1966) and his "apocalyptic" series of paintings showing scenes of horror amid war and bombings and death ... in 1912, was fascinating. Well done.

[@michaelwilliams-nq6zg]

You and your teaching style reminds me of my old 6th grade Social Studies teacher Mr. Larson. My love of history came from him and I'm so glad I found your channel.

[@hannahbrown2728]

Im so glad Ive stumbled on your channel. My brain yearns for knowledge both useless and useful(and yours is incredibly useful), I just came here from your Iran-Contra video Ive been putting off watching for a while. Ill definitely need to give it a few rewatches, but golly I truly appreciate how in depth you get in to topics. So very glad you seem to have kept with the long form subject. Looking forward to working through your backlog and continunally revisiting. I tend to avoid a lot of more recent history cause its harder to make that disconnect when you can see how the actions of a few over the course of a few centuries have shaped the world we live in, quiver is a good word for it, maybe ripple. You make it all much more platable, a great jumping off point into topics I know I very much need a better grasp on. Thank you so much for your hard work!!

[@ArthurB26]

You remind of Paul Harrell but you cover history and not firearms. Very clear, concise and informative videos. No filler, fancy intros or graphics. Just pure unadulterated education material, bravo 😂

[@SmokedCig]

I know I’m a bit late to this vid but wow! What a fantastic video, keep up the great work!!

[@SeanMunger]

Thanks!

[@bonnietodd1216]

I enjoy your programs the longer the better. I just get to enjoy more history & something intelligent , thank you for doing these. I appreciated the ones on Oswald

[@gregcampwriter]

The sinking of the Titanic was a genuine example of tragedy, i.e., hubris that led to a bad end. Sadly, Morgan missed the boat.

[@anthonyruby2668]

Since icebergs are sometimes associated with conspiracy theories, another meaning of the titanic can be when reality collides with paranoid fantasy. Or when icebergs represent reality, then when fantasy collides with complicated reality

[@chrispez9]

Nothing makes me happier than to consume long form historical videos thank you so much for all the work you put in

[@kungfujoe3000]

Hey there, I really enjoy your videos! It let's me feed my brain regularly

[@courtneyraymer6586]

Like so many of the other commenters, I was captured by your “quiver” metaphor. As you went through your early examples, the word “microcosm” occurred to me, and not 60 seconds later you used it yourself. Another metaphor that occurred to me was that of the mirrored ball that used to used in old dance halls of the 20th century. Each tiny mirror’s reflection could be one of the quivers. As you went through your analysis, I couldn’t get that image out of my mind as you danced our minds around your brilliant insights.

[@philbob_d9254]

The best and most thorough doc on the Kennedy assassination that I've ever seen. Excellent work! Thanks

[@giovannirastrelli9821]

Captain Smith’s famous quote about modern shipbuilding was from 1907, said right before the maiden voyage of RMS Adriatic, two years before the sinking of the Republic. That quote didn’t become associated with Titanic until many decades later.

[@shalomadepoju7475]

Thanks Mr. Munger. Wonderful as always. Thanks very much.

[@Ladon88]

Your approach to history reminds me of James Burke’s “Connections”. Well done!

[@matteff3814]

I've really come to enjoy your telling of history...and especially this video, taking a shot at summing up a large event into the events of the world before and after...well done

[@killahurtz6786]

I like your explanation at the beginning about "popular" vs "scholastic" content about history when it comes to consumption of said content. Im an amateur WW2 historian, and its tough to find content relevant to whatever aspect Im studying at that moment. Beyond all the fake-Hollywood, the black and white "now we are seeeing here!" narrated propaganda reels, History channel gibberish and fan boy vehicle fictions...its tough to find content that just objectively gives me the information Im seeking when im trying to "deep dive" a specific aspect. You do a good job of providing objective content. I watched both your JFK videos earlier and came here from the recommend. Also, long form videos are good for people like me because im usually tinkering with some kind of machinery on my desk and dont like the video changing every 5mins.

[@micaelaferreira8337]

Amazing documentary. Thank you so much for the time and effort. I would have never have connected Titanic to such events and yet it all makes sense. Also, I have to applaud the final chapter. You made a very respectful point about the lives that were lost.

[@rylandorr]

Man your videos are some of the best I have watched in my quest of history. You are a hero to say the least.

[@joeyrufo]

1:25:57 OK, I gotta admit, when you mentioned an "obscure painter from Berlin," I couldn't help but wonder who you were talking about, and then you flashed his painting on the screen, and I was like, "nah, the person I'm thinking of wasn't that good... Also, come to think of it, I'm pretty sure he wasn't from Berlin" 🤣🤪

[@ebnertra0004]

No, no, you're thinking of the painter from Austria

[@kodabar]

The problem with all of this is that it is only Titanic's meaning to you. Plenty of people who know nothing of the other factors in the society of the time finding meaning resonating in the Titanic story. If their cultural knowledge and touchstones bear little relation to yours, then you cannot claim any kind of empirical meaning. The concept of 'quivers' (aren't these just portents by another name?) is fine, but if one can only discern them in retrospect, then they are of no value. Identifying pre-cursors to WWI in paintings is particularly weak - how far in advance of a conflict can these occur for you to link them? A few years? A few decades? If such things presage events of significance, but cannot be distinguished from the cultural noise or ascribed meaning until after the events they presage, then they are pointless. I am reminded of a scene in a Douglas Adams book whereby a man is touring round a mental hospital. In one of the rooms, a patient is reciting stock market figures. The doctor is asked if they are live numbers. Oh yes, they are. Well, that is amazing. No, it would be amazing if they were tomorrow's stock market numbers. And that's the trouble with quivers. As portents of disaster they can only be interpreted in hindsight. At the time, they meant nothing. And any prediction in them is likely more in the interpretation than any inherent meaning. With that said, I enjoyed this video. I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts and exploration of the wider societal context. I might disagree with a few things (suffrage wasn't just about women's right and most suffragettes weren't concerned with working class women), but it was an interesting video and I hope you'll make more in the future. I enjoy your presentation style and calm demeanour - a rarity these days!

[@thearthritisgamer946]

Im only 25 minutes in and gosh, you never disappoint. I feel like I'm REALLY learning about the Titanic for the first time. Excited!!!

[@emsouemsou]

30:19 "Asquith's government quickly tabled the issue" It should be noted that "tabled" means two completely opposite things in US English (to remove something from consideration) and UK English (to put something up for consideration)

[@Soundbrigade]

This is SOOOO interesting! When you, at the very end of Pt 1, talks about using quivers to foresee coming events, I instinctively thought about Nostradamus. Many believes he tried to prophetise upcoming events, but I read somewhere that he was into ‘quivers’, trying to match observations of comets, earthquakes, solar eclipses and what-not to other events. However it was much about natural phenomenas, so he was wrong, but still (philosophically) a bit right. PS. Barbara Tuchman’s books are “bricks”, some are tough to digest but The Zimmermann Telegram and The March Of Folly are absolutely FANTASTIC and hints us that we never learn from history.