The most important here is the final conclusion - it is not how good and precise the car is on the track - it is how big is the smile it gives you when you go to the grocery store.
@DearMajesty9 жыл бұрын
+benzfen HAHAHA best comment I have ever read!
@BenzinioB8 жыл бұрын
Gary Gorton Tell us what kind of beast you are driving for that smile :)
@Notorious40z8 жыл бұрын
C63 AMG Coupe :D
@FEGTTTSDH7 жыл бұрын
yes exactly, and you don´t need drive mad for make some drifts... now is more easy and fun
@TomHenksYT7 жыл бұрын
it's still illegal in most countries though, so you gotta be careful not to get caught doing it.
@jcooper_10 жыл бұрын
This video perfectly sums up why the Toyota GT86 and its Prius tyres are so much fun.
@Munkenba10 жыл бұрын
Toyota GT86 on space savers... Dear god, I think I'm onto something.
@ndinadis10 жыл бұрын
yeah its still underpowered, most drifts are clutch cick initiated or ebrake, it cant just power on and overwhelm the tires like you would want it too. My cousin bought one, I bought a mustang and modified it, they are very different when it comes to drifts
@bazzie8510 жыл бұрын
ndinadis then your cousin doesn't know how to drift. The GT86 can easily maintain a drift all the way through a corner. But you have to floor it all the way and not start off slow in the corner. I tried it last year, a very nice car to drive. Obviously it doesn't have a lot of straight line speed, but who needs that on public roads anyway?
@mazin28929 жыл бұрын
+ndinadis you have got a point, the drifts in the mx5/brz aren't 'power-initiated' it would be nice if they had slightly more power, at least 250bhp.
@ndinadis9 жыл бұрын
I drove his, it had headers and full exhaust, Im assuming intake and tuning, It prob made ok power but the lack of torque was disappointing for me in a "sports car" the stock prius tires I think made it easy to slide around.
@paullincoln8 жыл бұрын
Dear Chris Harris. Thank you for answering one of my lifelong questions.... driving a high performance car on space savers. I can die now
@eightosaurusspelunk15986 жыл бұрын
Paul Lincoln Goodbye, Paul. You'll be missed.
@the-boring-car-guy5 жыл бұрын
Eightosaurus Spelunk he died after putting an m6 gran coupe on bicycle tires
@MrJoshpit4 жыл бұрын
Right!
@mikejennings77794 жыл бұрын
I put space savers on my 944 in the snow, didn't get stuck
@the-boring-car-guy4 жыл бұрын
I'm back 1 year later for a rewatch and now so are you lot.
@RussianJan1tor10 жыл бұрын
and now use a koenigsegg with spacesafers
@quentinfreeman75169 жыл бұрын
That would be flipping over, blowing, up death. If they basically give the Merc 1200 hp and it's that crazy, how crazy over 3000 would be
@infernalGotYou5 жыл бұрын
Abuzer Komurcu savers*
@zackm4rtin7434 жыл бұрын
You may as well book a funeral for that one
@plateofshrimp10 жыл бұрын
It turned into a BRZ
@quentinfreeman75169 жыл бұрын
A BRZ on steroids haha!
@Fluterra7 жыл бұрын
plateofshrimp a BRZ with 1200 hp!
@nickmendez37077 жыл бұрын
Fluterra 480
@fgill65657 жыл бұрын
Unco Casey A stock brz has 215s and thats over double the size of these donuts so if you keep the power in line with the tires hes almost there actually
@xaviercastruita69327 жыл бұрын
plateofshrimp and
@devastate7549 жыл бұрын
"fun is better than speed"
@rajatgawande60235 жыл бұрын
Always
@slowestamg3 жыл бұрын
In other words, Miata is always the answer
@Werk4Cash3 жыл бұрын
@@slowestamg too slow to have any fun OR speed in
@slowestamg3 жыл бұрын
@@Werk4Cash You haven’t owned and built one, have you 😉 265whp goes a LOOOOOONG way in an NA Miata (
@Werk4Cash3 жыл бұрын
@@slowestamg you’ve gotta pretty good point there. My bad bro I’ve drove a bone stock Miata with a half cut header and wasn’t impressed but now that I’m thinkin about it Miata with some mods sounds pretty fun
@KBoardss8 жыл бұрын
Those tires are the epitome of "Never skip leg day"
@AaronJCourtney8 жыл бұрын
Beach boys don't hammer wheels!
@666demonknight6669 жыл бұрын
Gonna love the C63 AMG. Just the engine and the sound makes it all worthwhile.
@atranas60187 жыл бұрын
I can almost hear the Eurobeat
@viperr28717 жыл бұрын
Anas Takiyudin N-NANI?!
@opalpale79277 жыл бұрын
DE JAVU
@usdm420xauttpavgcpedcp86 жыл бұрын
*initial d intensifies*
@GF-mf7ml4 жыл бұрын
Small tires challenge
@emacemacii12 жыл бұрын
This video is a testament of how good of a driver Chris is. One example is how smoothly he was at making those steering adjustments. This guy is the only reason I watch Drive channel.
@Obi-WanKannabis Жыл бұрын
low grip drifting is a lot easier than high grip drifting, there is less snap and it's more progressive.
@soundseeker639 жыл бұрын
I guess this is why car testers always bang on about how much fun the Mazda MX5 is, even though it hasn't really got any power. You can drive it to its limits at legal road speeds. Even hot hatches these days have 255 section tyres and over 300bhp.... its all getting a bit silly and pointless if you ask me.
@jesdadotcom8 жыл бұрын
+soundseeker63 Unless you're Chris Harris who hates the Miata which makes this video rather amusing.
@bagelbytes694208 жыл бұрын
+soundseeker63 The lack of power can be easily remedied with a bolt on turbo kit. You can make up to about 275whp on an NA 1.6 with one safely on E85.
@rcajavus81415 жыл бұрын
@@bagelbytes69420 super stupid, do you feel super stupid?
@Sideways_Singh2 жыл бұрын
@@jesdadotcom that was the old miata, he loves the new miata nd, he said it on a episode of top gear when doing a quick review.
@fallencommaner8 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris looks like Mr Bean....
@mattstevens18907 жыл бұрын
Dnver gr8 Chris Harris looks like a top knob
@manfromnantucket95448 жыл бұрын
RWD might be fun, but a FWD would be cancer on space savers lol
@h2oaddict287 жыл бұрын
Man from Nantucket fwd is cancer in all situations
@bloodred98577 жыл бұрын
Actually it makes a burnout machine lol my buddies saturn was on em in the front and it spun for days. Never really went anywhere fast though lol
@Felixthecatz5 жыл бұрын
@@h2oaddict28 not in grocery getter situation
@mattyfeeney85224 жыл бұрын
The thought of all that understeer ....
@achilleaustin4 жыл бұрын
everyone thinks you can’t drift in a fwd all you have to do is keep the handbrake locked and keep it floored
@jeepcollector9111 жыл бұрын
Everyone should learn to drive with big power on skinny rubber. It would make them better drivers.
@BalkanBoyBiH10 жыл бұрын
Kneedragon1962 having so much confidence is bad and will risk a accident by a fuck ton if i were you do someting about it cause its the most dangerous thing you can have if you dont have the skill to back it up. my cousin has the same problem he thinks hes the best driver he already had a accident
@Dowa2b10 жыл бұрын
Kneedragon1962 Im pretty sure everyone can fly an aircraft with training.
@Kneedragon196210 жыл бұрын
That's not quite true. In principle, everyone could learn to walk a small tightrope with training, or sing a song (competently) in front of an audience. In practice, some people are just not cut out for that.
@quentinfreeman75169 жыл бұрын
Fading Light Not really, flying an aircraft is very complicated
@Kneedragon19629 жыл бұрын
Quentin Freeman Complicated... Depends. Yes, there's some complexity in operating an aircraft, but there's some complexity in driving through London or New York or Sydney too. There's some complexity in operating a motorbike. I rode them for 40 years and I still have an R6 race bike. Complexity is part of the problem, time constraints is another, task management and prioritisation is another. Being able to ignore you instincts and trust your instruments, is a huge one. Being able to correctly read and interpret those instruments, under pressure, is another. Aircraft can be hard, but you have generally got a few moments to think. A car or motorbike near the limit of performance & control, it has to be reflex. It does everything too quickly for you to think about, it has to be like standing on one leg - you have to just KNOW what to do. There can be situations like that in aircraft too, but you don't often get into them.
@StickyFingaz5012 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris is a legend. He's definitely one of the best and most entertaining Automotive Journalists ever. I hope he gets the recognition he deserves. He captivates many thousands through his written reviews and videos. He shouldn't be struggling to afford a GT3RS 4.0, it should be pocket change for someone in their industry of his calibre.
@clc2328Ай бұрын
He has it now.
@TheLaXandro7 жыл бұрын
That's one of the reasons why GT86 is so fun stock- it is sold on the same tires as Prius.
@benfillman40497 жыл бұрын
TheLaXandro it isn't though.
@jakobrkerr7 жыл бұрын
Ben Fillman what isn't? It isn't fun? Or it didn't have Prius tires?
@chrishazen3697 жыл бұрын
Jakob Kerr it isn't sold on Prius tires. Similar, sure. They say that I think because the wheels can fit on a Prius probably.
@chrishazen3697 жыл бұрын
RandomUser M it's also lighter than both of those. It's not a boring car by any means.
@LogieT2K7 жыл бұрын
TheLaXandro every one in the comment section has seen too gear.
@davidraezer59375 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. I had more fun sliding my old 77 Golf than a modern sports car. You can be slow and have a blast. We also did the 4 space saver trick when we were horsing around in the shop. Laughed so hard I was in tears. Let’s all go analog!
@7arakooni8 жыл бұрын
lmao looks like a guy running in heels
@tbvdb10 жыл бұрын
So I should drift instead of going a bit too fast on public roads now? 6:43
@M3rVsT4H8 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I only just found this vid, it's instantly one of my favorites. I've spent most of my hooning life extolling the virtues of cheap skinny tires to friends. And it's been a very unpopular theory. But there is simply no better way to make a car "feel" like it has more power. And it's even safer because its way easier to gather things up at the lower speed where your tires let go. Really great tires still let go, just at much higher speeds.
@sbrenx71328 жыл бұрын
Merv same here, ended up mounting 145 section, very old snow tires on my friend's E30 to prove my point, and it worked greatly!
@sbrenx71328 жыл бұрын
Merv same here, ended up mounting 145 section, very old snow tires on my friend's E30 to prove my point, and it worked greatly!
@joaosoares37198 жыл бұрын
3:33 - 3:49 How is a 125 tire 1/3 of the width of a 255 tire? It's obviously 1/2 (0.4902, if we're nitpicking). Your photographer Neal should've tried to finish his 5th grade, methinks...
@haseebchowdhury43078 жыл бұрын
+João Soares ITS *NEIL GODDAMMIT!!!!!
@ritaamorim54558 жыл бұрын
+Haseeb Chowdhury Both spellings are correct; I don't know who the man is, so I went with Neal. It's irrelevant... What's not irrelevant is Neal's lack of mathematical skills.
@haseebchowdhury43078 жыл бұрын
bruh chill I was kidding ya know?
@haseebchowdhury43078 жыл бұрын
do you not get sarcasm?
@pjbadgersuw268 жыл бұрын
+João Soares To be fair, the section width is measured from widest part of the tire and unlike the standard 255 which has a flat sidewall, the 125 has a rounded side wall so the tread is actually narrower than 125mm. It probably is close to about 1/3 the amount of surface area of the stock tires even though his math was way off.
@BigOwnz11 жыл бұрын
Chris, you've really made me rekindle my love of driving. Thank you for your video's.
@edwardrex64588 жыл бұрын
OMG, I always wanted to see this. Any high performance car on all spare tires.
@calebd5127 жыл бұрын
Edward Rex I was just thinking the same thing the other day and finally looked it up. good choice
@calebd5127 жыл бұрын
Edward Rex but I wanna see someone just completely wreck it
@Playingbyear11 жыл бұрын
The reason the GT86/BRZ is touted as such a fun car. The most fun car I ever had was a little peugeot 106 rallye. 1.3litre 8v engine with just over 100bhp and 175tyres, 900kg, no power steering, no safety features. Steering on the throttle, yes, drifting on four wheels, yup. 0-60 took a staggering 9.2 seconds, and you had to work the thing to go anywhere fast, the power band came in at 5000 up to the 7200rpm redline. But what a fun car.
@fireblade36557 жыл бұрын
Andrew Goodman FWD OR RWD?
@jayo5032 жыл бұрын
the old adage, driving a slow car fast is more fun than driving a fast car slow
@StalePhish8 жыл бұрын
Hilarious hearing them called "space savers". To me, a space saver is probably like a cabinet. Who else here calls them donuts?
@Stryke6077 жыл бұрын
"donuts" ?! never heard that before. we call them spare tyres.
@jmoneyent97 жыл бұрын
yeah i call them donuts as well
@nickmendez37077 жыл бұрын
StalePhish I call em pizza cutters
@fireblade36557 жыл бұрын
They are called space savers because they save space in the trunk
@fireblade36557 жыл бұрын
Galatzó Disc Jockeys
@kelly0000011111111 жыл бұрын
This was the video that got me hooked on every single video to come from Chris Harris. He is, hands down, one of the most pleasant and informative automobile reviewers to date.
@Poopeepooo1238 жыл бұрын
c63 with donut = king of initial d.
@SharkByteOfficial7 жыл бұрын
"On the street, fun is better than speed."... well time to go drift corners and do donuts in intersections
@jasonleon19766 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, I won't be cutting you out of your vehicle when you wrap it around a tree.
@FEGTTTSDH6 жыл бұрын
If you want drift, with a bit tyres, you need speed and more power, with narrow tyres is just at less speed with less power.
@chova11238 жыл бұрын
Skills, made it look like the car was skating on ice
@993m4S8 жыл бұрын
The C63 on stock 225 winter tyres is just the perfect recipe for everyday fun. You can go sideways nearly everywhere- dry, wet or snow. It needs a settled character to live with..
@dafiltafish9 жыл бұрын
this is why the BRZ is so awesome.
@syedomarnorth25619 жыл бұрын
Not really,Not enough Power
@512354657899 жыл бұрын
SYEDOMAR North Power to rubber ratio is good enough
@JordieMotive9712 жыл бұрын
his last sentence
@nintendoatarikiller10 жыл бұрын
This is why the Toyota 86 is on Prius tyres.
@moorerobbie4012 жыл бұрын
Ahh so nice to rewatch old episodes. Great reminder how to always watch chris with it in mind that driving is not about fast or the car its about having fun.
@akaSkItTLes2310 жыл бұрын
cops will have one hell of a field day seeing someone using space savers on all 4 wheels.
@bazzie8510 жыл бұрын
I don't think they'd know what to do... I doubt there is anything about this in their field manual, lol
@bananamontana39566 жыл бұрын
Basel Kader dangerous driving, driving uninsured, driving a vehicle unfit for the road
@essayedgar5 жыл бұрын
@@bananamontana3956 all not correct
@bananamontana39565 жыл бұрын
@@essayedgar surmising
@ravennexusmh5 жыл бұрын
They'd be ideal for running some proper rally spec ice tyres.
@thegiantgaming75925 жыл бұрын
So they are just lowkey telling us all to drift/hoon to work. I like it
@jesdadotcom8 жыл бұрын
This is why old Miatas are so much fun. And now we've come full circle.
@radim33358 жыл бұрын
+JesdaG Chris doesn't like those.....
@crackuhjack1238 жыл бұрын
+Radim Přibyl nobody likes those lol
@radim33358 жыл бұрын
crackuhjack123 barbies and hairdressers likes those...
@EZCarnivore8 жыл бұрын
I... I like those... I own one =/
@radim33358 жыл бұрын
エックザック I need new haircut, can you help?
@JakobusVdL11 жыл бұрын
I love Chris's enthusiasm. This experiment kind of supports my idea that the Toyota 86 is over tyred for the road. What was the wear like on the 125 tyres? I've seen road tests that say the C63 can shred its full sized tyres in a few sideways track laps.
@zackrogers933410 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that noticed that they changed SO MANY variables? The wide tires, they left traction control and auto shifting on, with the donuts they turned off traction control and manually shifted.. Although it looks much cooler this way, it throws out the equality of comparison. I'd much rather see the comparison with the tires being the ONLY changed variable. That ruins this entire video for me, tbh.
@nickmendez37077 жыл бұрын
Zack Rogers this clearly wasn't for comparison
@johnsimun65337 жыл бұрын
Zack Rogers,I was wandering how good the nanny systems would hold it.
@HandsomeAlex257 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one, but it doesn't take away much from the demonstration. Look elsewhere in KZbin for standard C63's drifting around a track.
@PlatypusVomit6 жыл бұрын
Just remember the show is for entertainment purposes only. They don't have to be scientific, they don't have to be thorough, they can lie about anything in the show. The only purpose of the show is for them to entertain you enough that you sit through an ad.
@swogettiswindon81626 жыл бұрын
Thats cool and all. But why not both? Simply follow up the silliness with the facts and everyone is happy. I think they missed an oportunity to educate here.
@jdc4aub11 жыл бұрын
Load does increase traction to a certain point but after that it only takes away. The wings are used for higher speeds where tires start to lift off the road. The downforce is used to keep the vehicle planted on the ground and handle better more than have less wheel spin at the start. Wings will actually decrease a vehicle's top speed (due to drag) but increase stability at speed. Handling does rely on more factors than just tire grip, however, the weight affects every one of those factors.
@NGNMYokohama12 жыл бұрын
"On the street, fun is more important than speed." Couldn't have said it better myself. Well done Monkey!
@capnthepeafarmer4 жыл бұрын
Eight years of waiting, perfect timing KZbin.
@_exl_accord7 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a Hellcat on spacesavers 😂
@ElQuesoGuapo5 жыл бұрын
I've done this on my Miata, using 10 year old space savers. Even with the Miata's anemic 135 HP, I was doing quarter throttle third gear drifting. It's a load of fun!
@mzaphod648 жыл бұрын
Car on heels is what it's called.. :)
@legomass10008 жыл бұрын
Mzaphod Bibl triggered
@milemuncher-lightisright55184 жыл бұрын
After first seeing this video years ago, I finally got around to trying it with my own track car - only an MR2, nothing with the power of the AMG, but still was a lot of fun and lots to learn! (on a private track, obviously) - Thank you, Chris, for this amazing idea of 4 space savers !
@po.russki10 жыл бұрын
125 is about half of 255. Not 1/3.
@rawr240010 жыл бұрын
yes but the contact patch is about 1/3
@frankyn829 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's really really close to exact half as much
@0909-p1v9 жыл бұрын
+Po Russki Depends, I had a pair of 245s as wide as my 275s. More of a reference than an exact measurement (In the US at least)
@joaosoares37198 жыл бұрын
+rawr2400 No, it isn´t.
@ziomel1057 жыл бұрын
+Joao Soares Yes, it is 90cm^2 and 250cm^2 calculated roughly.
@antonispetrou44729 жыл бұрын
Last five words are the whole meaning!!! "Fun Is Better Than Speed"!!! Well, Chris should try to Drift and I mean normal drift with drift car. That would be awesome!!!
@mmhoss11 жыл бұрын
"Never skip leg day"
@HandsomeAlex257 жыл бұрын
How have I not watched this until now?! This is absolute gold!
@javidhuseynov75367 жыл бұрын
this is how much traction all mustangs come stock with
@fontheking511 жыл бұрын
The noise of that AMG V8 is enough for me to like this video but these drifts were very fun to watch as well :)
@juliancwcwcw7 жыл бұрын
Looks like he's driving on a footpath through a park lol
@jamesmiller1133 жыл бұрын
Who else wanted to see the state of the tread after all those hot laps. Aren't space savers only good for 100 miles or so?
@razznation62057 жыл бұрын
ersatzreifenfelgen sehen besser aus als meine sommerfelgen 😅😧🙈
@cherrybomb149311 жыл бұрын
this is exactly why I love my NA miata on snow, with 175-width snow tires. driving perfection.
@AndiKravljaca9 жыл бұрын
Chris, is that the same jumper you had in the old Focus RS video from 2008?! :D
@AGStylZ12 жыл бұрын
@DaveDude571 No, it's the fact that the car is still controllable, even with those spare tires/lack of traction. That's why he says it's the best handling car in the world. Perhaps, it's just the fact that he's a great driver and makes it look effortless.
@zacchin45288 жыл бұрын
have no power in your drift car? there you go space savers.
@NZcarBlog7 жыл бұрын
Exactly the trick they use on the GT86. Smaller section tyres equals less grip and more fun.
@jonydelacruz51486 жыл бұрын
BEST CAR EVER C63 AMG.
@mmsharp5 жыл бұрын
Jony De la cruz lmao
@EngiNetion4 жыл бұрын
no
@bigdeano199111 жыл бұрын
"Fun is better than speed" - you hit the nail on the head there Chris!
@llavero58 жыл бұрын
Really the conclusión in this video is 90% wrong, because the compund of the tires is very diferent between stock tire (continental sport contact 5) and the little skinny. Try high performance semislick motorbike tire, and you will see results very near to the stock big tires. Add the factor that the skinnys can be crystallized for long time without use. Grip is 90% load + compund, theoretically 100%, but in extreme load the size can affect a little, but ONLY A LITTLE. People who think: "more contact area = more grip" is usually wrong. +1 contact area = +1 load = same grip, like i said only theorically, the proportion is like +1 load area = around +0,9 grip. Anyway, very fun video!
@roosterandabaldguy11 жыл бұрын
Toyota/ Subaru watched this and made the GT-86! Well done, Chris!
@Vizenz121_OR10 жыл бұрын
What if you put those tires on a Viper??
@doublebassrox10 жыл бұрын
lol good luck even moving
@bighennybihh85327 жыл бұрын
Abraham Barajas *hellcat
@austinfleck86647 жыл бұрын
Avspgod *demon
@niklasschmidt66427 жыл бұрын
Austin Fleck* civic
@standardannonymousguy5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this and doing the experiment for us to see. I can see how efficiency could be increased with thinner tires if the roadway was straight, however on the corners it is a whole different story. Honestly it looks like a fun drive!!
@jakublesiak47379 жыл бұрын
that rims, winter tires and snowy mountain road :D Chris?
@Pete7629 жыл бұрын
Jakub Lesiak I think that will be close to impossible to drive but nevertheless give me an c63 amg and I will try :D
@nyc86312 жыл бұрын
explains the fun of the toyota 86 - which runs on prius tires. Actually, if you reduce the width of the tire you don't reduce the grip at anything like the same rate. The more narrow the tire, the more lbs per square inch. The higher the weight per sq inch, the more grip per sq inch. There are other factors too, but a wider tire doesn't add grip through simple increase in contact patch.
@yoseppijoe8 жыл бұрын
awesome, I have been wanting to do something similar for years
@TheBalrog1118 жыл бұрын
same here. But a rally car with plenty wide roads
@JoeyCHROME16 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Chris Harris. Has become the big face of motorsport entertainment
@Killswitch19918 жыл бұрын
Wrong torque figure? It's more than that....
@idealized_3 жыл бұрын
Had to come back here to remind myself what a proper AMG sounds like.
@Munther958 жыл бұрын
this could win the Formula D
@LETHALF907 жыл бұрын
Munther AL-sulaimi itd be illegal
@UlissC7 жыл бұрын
Medo Gabr why?
@hipgnosis52085 жыл бұрын
Had to change a tire this morning. I wondered if anyone made a video of a high performance car driving on all space savers. Found this video. Joy.
@salahbrahimi48387 жыл бұрын
Is Chris Harris a driver or what!
@rpn45311 жыл бұрын
This is why I love driving on slippery winter roads with studded tires. Grip may be low, but traction is consistent and weight transfer effects are negligible. The car constantly moves around beneath me in a predictable manner. Effortless at-the-limit driving (when not held up by slow traffic) at legal or near-legal speeds.
@R-R-R-R-R6 жыл бұрын
whos watching this 2018?
@chrisdabom5 жыл бұрын
2019 ftw!
@Alexwaltman8504 жыл бұрын
This video inspired our autocross club to play King of the Mountain during fun runs with a 1.6L Miata on Miata spare tires. That was a hoot
@tcoffin0149 жыл бұрын
That math is horribly wrong haha good video though
@Streamliner00911 жыл бұрын
On a flat road you can cruise at 50-60 mph, which also is top speed. It depends mostly of wind direction. We don't have very cold winters here in southern spain, but in summer the convertible top is a joy!
@dannyloughman11 жыл бұрын
125 is almost half of 255, not a third. #geeklife
@ziomel1057 жыл бұрын
Contact path 90cm^2 and 250cm^2. #geeklife
@namestnikoff Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that all the sliding shown in this video has nothing to do with width of these tyres. The force that makes the car go is called friction and calculated as F = uMg. Thete is no "width" or even "surface area" in this formula. All you guys did is put C63 on spare wheels which has less friction coefficient. I guess those who develop those skinny spare tyres just don't bother to put a "sticky" (or should I say "rubber with high friction coefficient)" rubber on them.
@wazmanths10 жыл бұрын
hes a Great driver tho
@noxious8912311 жыл бұрын
The theory is in terms of weight per square inch making a difference, but in actuallity it wouldn't work like that Re: grip levels. You'd overload the smaller tyre at a far lower speeds than the wider tyre. More weight on a tyre will give it more grip, but only up to a certain point. Beyond that point the tyre becomes over loaded and loses grip.
@frankyn829 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you skip leg day
@Trades4612 жыл бұрын
I remember an episode of Top Gear where James May was saying it was more fun to drive all out in a 2cyl Fiat Panda vs a supercar going 1/20 of it's limits. I agree with that actually. This and the GT86 proves my point even further; a conventional car being pushed to the limit is great fun; and it won't get you on the wrong side of the law as easily. In case of speculators, yes: The GT86 runs on the same rubber size as the Prius that was being sold right beside it.
@Emersoncampogrande3 жыл бұрын
vim pelo petrolhead
@herrgolf12 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for those tires to pop. That looks like so much fun.
@Mladjasmilic8 жыл бұрын
My car has 145/80R13 tire
@ilibertywalkedmybaconct44458 жыл бұрын
neka
@RM-qm6op7 жыл бұрын
Mladen Milić I have 215/55R8 :( I might get some space savers.
@stanislavpavlov63117 жыл бұрын
Mladen Milić 165/75R13 😅
@HoloEN_GawrGura7 жыл бұрын
Even my 77hp Fiat Grande Punto has 195s
@stanislavpavlov63117 жыл бұрын
MrsMcMuffin Isn't a 195 overkill for a 80hp car...I mean like what will you do with all of that ? Can you atleast spin the tires ? And if you tell me it's on a 16" wheel then I'm done 😂
@gcu28105 жыл бұрын
Thin tyres can be more fun. They communicate road grip better than wide tyres. You get a second chance with narrow tyres where as if you lose grip on wide tyres it’s usually very serious trouble
@tlakehlubi12148 жыл бұрын
960 hp not 1200
@kaz3d5 жыл бұрын
i have a mk7 gti with performance pack currently on driver side space saver (125) and i will have to agree with Chris, for some reason the handling is just sooo much better!? Despite the GTI having sport mode but running on the space saver i noticed a huge difference in the way the car eats up a bend or corner and overall just so more responsive and have such a better feel for the road!! haha
@felipeqww98453 жыл бұрын
quem veio pelo cabeça de petróleo?
@derbigpr50011 жыл бұрын
Width of the tire might be half, but the area with which it sits on the ground is much smaller, and space savers have nowhere near as much grip as the normal road tire, so 1/3 of grip is quite accurate.
@jimmyjohanes907 жыл бұрын
increase mpg lol
@stewie8412 жыл бұрын
"On the street, fun is better than speed." ... but sometimes stopping is good too.
@pipacs748 жыл бұрын
You are fooled here! Fr = μN ! Which means, the friction force is independent from the size of the tires (in the theory:A) ! If you are more like a practical person, just imagine: would it be easier to pull a brick, just because it is in a upright position?
@fireblade36557 жыл бұрын
Gabe, Varga Umm yes it is, its easier.
@fireblade36557 жыл бұрын
Gabe, Varga And in the formula, the fatter the tyre the bigger is the value of co efficient of friction
@JeepCherokeeful12 жыл бұрын
Correct, this car in the wet would have performed the same with the normal tires fitted and traction control off. It would have made a huge difference in the dry though. Maybe they planned the test for dry weather conditions but their "track" reservations fell on a rainy one? Most disappointing is that we were not shown the tires after this thrashing!
@turbone547 жыл бұрын
I feel dumber after watching this
@nismoztune805 жыл бұрын
Well you are a Honda
@Aussie5012 жыл бұрын
This is why space savers should never be banned :D, so much fun when you have 4 of them :D