16:36 - There ya go… boosted + mod = pure gold tone 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@denverrandy71437 ай бұрын
Thanks for the timestamp to delicious brutality.👍
@bradleejaymz7 ай бұрын
I had a Badlander. I liked the tones, but found myself playing the Badlander and staring at my JP2c and wishing it had as much gain as the JP did. Methinks the Badlander should now be back on my wish list...along with a Legendary Tones Mod! Thanks for doing this!!!
@lieutenantdan22177 ай бұрын
If you have the JP2C I'd say you've covered mesas best ground. Play that thing instead lol.
@JorisGriffioen7 ай бұрын
8:20 "without further ado, here we go!" ... *continues talking* hahaha
@Fuzzybunny-ki1cw6 ай бұрын
lolll
@ilikepotatoes13457 ай бұрын
I think I prefer the unmodded one, to me the modded one sounded more bassy and saturated but also more compressed, the unmodded one sounds more open to me and the lesser amount of gain wouldn't bother me because I don't go for ultra gainy sounds anyway. Very interesting comparison, thank you for sharing this with us!
@belligerentamateur7 ай бұрын
are you sure? I even mention later in the video that the modded one sounds less compressed because the onboard gain isn't being maxed out
@ilikepotatoes13457 ай бұрын
@@belligerentamateur That's how I percieve it, maybe I'd have a different opinion if I tried both amps in person but this is what I truly hear from the video.
@VanillaGorilla_8087 ай бұрын
I agree, the unmodded sounded better to me as well. More gain isn't always better.
@joelspaulding59647 ай бұрын
@@VanillaGorilla_808No
@djkolcun7 ай бұрын
It’s cool that you’ve given Mr Scary a shot and that it works! I’m so new to the Mesa family my Badlander 100 hasn’t even been delivered yet (this afternoon!!!!). Have to admit the thing that attracted me to this amp was its…focused?…gain. So, as I unbox this afternoon (and probably cream my own…er…never mind), I’ll keep in mind that the Mr Scary mod is a viable option should I want “more” 😃 Thanks for posting!
@NinecoreNeil6 ай бұрын
The group is looking great so far and seems such a cool and relaxed place to be for gear nerds,thanks for the admin invite and also the mention on your channel 👍
@TobyKBTY7 ай бұрын
"Thankfully he's gone now" Holy shit I just realized I haven't seen that dude around for a while. Lmao
@6slayer6sam627 ай бұрын
O he had some entertaining content sometimes lol
@juanmacaceres27027 ай бұрын
Who was it?
@rob610917 ай бұрын
What did I miss?
@ronnieo.66477 ай бұрын
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@6slayer6sam627 ай бұрын
@@juanmacaceres2702 louis torres i believe.
@robertmiller41673 ай бұрын
THANK YOU KYLE!! ❤❤❤ I’ve always had a love hate relationship with Mesa. But.. after watching your video I bought a Badlander and Mr Scary and I couldn’t be happier. I bought the 100w rack version and the tone was ok but wasn’t great, for me almost unusable. After installing Mr Scary.. AMAZING! It feels amazing and sounds amazing. I couldn’t be happier. I’ve been hunting this particular tone for 15 years and my search is over. Thanks buddy!
@tj14867 ай бұрын
It blows my mind Mesa hasn't just added another tube gain stage to these things yet, so many people out there like myself would probably be rushing to buy one.
@geraldrauch17017 ай бұрын
yup, put the mr scary mod in my 50W badlander back in october...whole different animal after...pairing it with my engl fireball 100 in a stereo rig at the moment...yikes!!! cheers all!!!
@BPToneReview7 ай бұрын
Well, not popular opinion but in this video, I actually liked the stock BL better.
@EDWINPIERCE1687 ай бұрын
Same
@odyssey66847 ай бұрын
The extra tube (not a 12AX7) allows for more headroom to go along with the increased gain. Similar principle to Soldano's preamp design. David even mentioned that's it works well with high gain for that very reason.
@therapscallion234 ай бұрын
does the mod can be used to a stilleto and a recto verb?
@prestonbowden10087 ай бұрын
I know a lot people are kinda of meh on the bad lander but I LOVE it for super down tuned 7 string stuff. This mod just makes it even better to me.
@johnfinlay49633 ай бұрын
Exactly what I’m needing Got my Badlander 50 2 weeks ago. Love it but was missing a little something. Cant wait to get this . 🤘🏻
@21stcenturymetal317 ай бұрын
Hell yeah a noticeable difference even in youtube compression land. So in person I bet it sound even better. Thanks dude for making this video.
@vnvtraining72037 ай бұрын
I love the Badlander 100.. it’s more like a jacked JCM 800. I think you can also use an EQ pedal in loop and in the front, use a Seymour Duncan 805 to shape and add a little push and a similar result. I do use the 805 but not the EQ as I get enough bottom for my style with the MESA Rectifier 2x12. This head is amazing for classic rock, rock, alternative, alternative rock, punk but I’m not sure for metal as I don’t really that style. One thing to keep in mind this amp cuts through the mix and playing with a band as it has a little more upper mids which is great. I don’t think MESA’s intention was to replace the older rectifiers but to give another voicing more on the Marshall side.
@naturaljoe7597 ай бұрын
I’ve been wanting to throw a Mr. Scary Mod into my Single Rec for a while now. Very interested to see what it sounds like through the Swamp Thing/ DV-77 cab I just put together.
@erikrummel62777 ай бұрын
Dude buys a second $3k amp so he show us the difference back to back. Some heroes don’t wear capes. Or maybe you DO wear capes Kyle, I don’t know or judge, I’m not Capephobic
@Yamallama5856 ай бұрын
Cup those balls 😢
@-KingOfKhaos7 ай бұрын
Yup! No doubt it definitely saturates much better and you’re right about the quick attack punch
@andrewdykes45897 ай бұрын
Something i learned the og hot mod was originally built by David Hicks in Tulsa. He was contracted to built the hot mods for Soldano. I recently had a Hicks Mender which is a hot mod but for fender amps that is footswitchable and it was great!
@thatguy15587 ай бұрын
Kyle was definitely in Goofy Goober mode on this video.
@chrisgibson94167 ай бұрын
Now I’ve got that song and scene from the sponge bob movie stuck in my head now 😂.
@Rustinpeace1177 ай бұрын
I think both sound good regardless. I can see wanting more saturation and low end punch, its a pretty dry amp, but I think it gives it a lot of clarity. I'd be happy with either!
@Starch1b2c3d4a7 ай бұрын
Torres had some good hot takes. Did not mind his personality… Its a New York thing.
@sk81257 ай бұрын
Yeah Davids the man. Recently put one of these in my jcm2000 dsl and it rips. Opens the amp up quite a bit. David was super helpful too when I had some questions.
@nickharper81457 ай бұрын
DSL 100? I have been curious to give one a try in my own. Would love to hear some vids of it! 🤘🏻
@sk81257 ай бұрын
@@nickharper8145 dsl 50… I think Legendary tones youtube has a vid of it on their channel
@emobutpoofy7 ай бұрын
I want to hear an Orange TH30 or Fender Bassbreaker the Mr Scary Mod. I feel like it would be gnarly
@daagaarasplaysvideogames9807 ай бұрын
Trade gain against skill, and any hi-gain, or even mid-gain, amplifier will sound fantastic.
@hebguy4207 ай бұрын
Nice to see a different cab again :D playthrough sounded great!!
@mrhubbard75927 ай бұрын
Kyle! Please check out that drop A tone using an EVM 12L black label! More cream for the jeans!
@amirtak98866 ай бұрын
I see a 6534+ in the background. I'd love to see a review of that. I played one in 2013 and it was one of the best high gain amps I've ever played through.
@sword-and-shield5 ай бұрын
Some good versatility in that chunk...thx for the vid
@noahsteinberg62274 ай бұрын
Do you prefer this badlander with the mod over the mark 7?
@tonya41577 ай бұрын
Hmmm, wonder what that would do if I plugged it into my old Valvestate? I'll have to check the list. 😊
@LegendaryTones7 ай бұрын
The Valvestate is one we definitely will need to look at because technically that tube in there is a cathode follower. But there is a lot of other circuitry and things going on there so we’ll hopefully be able to validate it one day.
@tonya41577 ай бұрын
@LegendaryTones Thanks for your reply. I do appreciate that. I admit, I did check the list just in case but didn't expect it to be there. I just bought a VS100 combo in excellent condition and it really is a pretty decent old amp. After watching Kyle's video I couldn't help but wonder.
@zombies4187 ай бұрын
Was literally on the fence about getting rid of my multi watt for a badlander because I’ve always thought they they just weren’t as saturated and aggressive but this just solved my issue
@troyredford1497 ай бұрын
I bought one for my JCM800 last year and loved it. Now i need to get one for my Badlander lol
@joshshultz12507 ай бұрын
Would've loved to hear it in low tuning with the dirty tree
@jazzmasterbator6 ай бұрын
This sounds absolutely insane. I played one of these amps a couple weeks ago and I absolutely hated it (maybe I’m just too used to my 6505+) but that mod makes that thing sound NUTS
@snapascrew7 ай бұрын
At first I had the amps mixed up but now that I know which is which yes I prefer the mod. Great video.
@ericledford15467 ай бұрын
You should do a series on amps the Mr. Scary mod works with. I bet the Mesa Mark/.50 Caliber Ampeg Vl etc would breath fire with that mod.
@DeanBaco7 ай бұрын
Wow, 2 Badlander 100’s! Probably more than someone can find in Europe at the moment, lol. Sounds great, need to try that mod too!
@InTheSh87 ай бұрын
Why not clean-boosting it or using an OD-pedal with not only Level to full but also adding a bit gain? Yes, certainly there is a difference with the mod, but I personally would try the 2 possibilities I mentioned and/or a high-output pickup like DiMarzio X2N. I think Ola made it also sound very good without 2 additional tubes!
@Jficklen7 ай бұрын
I immediately ordered one after watching your video. I have a Badlander 100 and already love the tone… kind of contemplating using it in my JCM900 that I have never liked.
@yannfortin70356 ай бұрын
Tried it in my 900, honestly don't like it, sounds much better in my 2-channel Dual Rec or my 2203KK.
@Jficklen6 ай бұрын
@@yannfortin7035unfortunately I couldn’t even use it in my 900 (model 4100) but I do love it in my Badlander
@33cattt497 ай бұрын
Bro looks like he wears cargo shorts on a date to “the Applebees “ in a lifted truck .
@derickcutter84857 ай бұрын
shots right out the gate. i love it.
@TONEWARSgearshow7 ай бұрын
Wow! Great video. Im gonna try this
@soundstorm95083 ай бұрын
Gotta say I much preferred it without the mod. More open and articulate, and I think it would record much better. Big fan of the Badlander amps (have my second one on the way).
@NinecoreNeil6 ай бұрын
Totally agree with playing different when using a recto Definitely not for light pickers
@louiebe7 ай бұрын
If you havnt tried. Try the DV-77 speakers with this amp, im loving that amp with that speaker right now. One of my top 3 amps forsure regardless
@ehiracheta7 ай бұрын
Man I wonder how that sounded in the room! Seems like a great improvement!
@Sm0kn7 ай бұрын
I hated my Peavey Supreme 100 at first. Then I accidentally dialed in correctly with boost coming from a boss hm & blues driver and it blew my mind. My Bandit was similar, At first it was heavy but not as brutal as I remembered my Bravo 112 being.👨🏻🚀
@dddd7177 ай бұрын
You add an hm2 to anything and it will make any amp brutal… but I think the supreme is awesome… peavey really had something good there with both transformers
@OfRiffAndMan7 ай бұрын
Great sounds man! Would be interesting to see molecular with this mod.
@playthefightriffjohn8437 ай бұрын
I’m glad my initial disappointment with the Badlander ended up leading me to the Triple Crown which I love, if it had sounded like this stock I’d probably still own it. Also, what is that light that you have behind the amps? It looks like it’d be useful to have for my practice space
@denverrandy71437 ай бұрын
I really cant wait to get a Mr.Scary mod.👍Ive been seeing them for a few years.Last time i looked they were out.Fingers crossed.
@DCDacey-cq6nb7 ай бұрын
Kyle, I recently purchased a Gibson Tony Iommi model pick up. Just for reference, I think a channel switcher jcm 800 is a high gain amplifier. I do own a Mesa Tri-axis and a stereo 2:100 rectifier tube power amp what I’ve discovered is, playing a high (or a bugera g5 with the gain dimed) amp, the iommi pickup retains lots of clarity. I own all sorts of pickups from Dimarzio air to x2n. And from low ouput seymours to black winter pups. Lots in between too. That amp on this video sounds very clear…was wondering if you have experienced a gibson 500t (probably) or an ole sckool X2N. Or maybe even a tony iommi model pup. IMHO it seems as though low to med output pickups sound “muddy” through high gain amps. Also, I own all of the AMT bricks for guitar. I was wondering if you ever checked out any more than the 5150 model . The rectifier/Soldano model sounds just like surfing with the alien but I believe what is the Fred pick up in my Ibanez-I believe all of those AMT bricks are pretty awesome. As I’ve stated, I have them all was wondering if you could do a review a few more of them
@georgeespia3347 ай бұрын
Interesting. But I think the unmodded one is a lot more versatile though. I use different kinds of overdrives with varying amounts of saturation in front to push the amp. I have a maxon tbo-9 which is a tubed tube screamer which I can vary the amount of saturation that I want. I also have a friedman golden pearl, jhs screamer, boss sd1, keeley phat mod, and a rat 2. All of them sounds different and makes the badlander interesting. I have a rectifier 212 cab... that thing is bassy even with v30s. I have a single rectifier that I don't use anymore... because the single rectifier with my rectifier cab... is just too much lowend. But with my badlander 25 to the rectifier 212...the lowend is just right.
@clintn66777 ай бұрын
I mean I see what you are saying but for a new amp.... I dont want to have to buy another device. I have got to the point where I want to by an amp, I want to be able to plug in straight and not "need" anything. Granted I like using pedals and what not but I dont want my enjoyment to require additional gear.
@bobbybailey15217 ай бұрын
Kyle bull you really need to demo the bluguitar amp1 iridium. It is very impressive
@TudorAdrian7 ай бұрын
The Mr. Scary is kick a$$ in my Ceriatone stuff (Molecular, Chupacabra & King Kong). Perfect timing on the video Kyle - Mesa ought to be back in Europe this quarter or the next. Looking forward to getting my hands on a Badlander to at least try out.
@Tomcat825 ай бұрын
@kmjoyce-gb9wcMy Chupacabra is not a thin sounding amp. The Badlander without the Scary Mod sounds thinner.
@mccoy43546 ай бұрын
The mod sounds great, but tbh this is nothing an EQ can't get - specially with a great amp like the badlander. It has all you need and maybe you can EQ it to get the "punch" on low end you need. Glad you are enjoying your mod and this awesome amp! Keep rocking \m/
@belligerentamateur6 ай бұрын
Sorry dude, but an EQ can not add an all tube gain stage to an amplifier. Sure, you can get more low end out of an eq, and you can push the front end with the level up to achieve more saturation, but pushing the front end vs more natural gain from an extra tube gain stage are not the same thing in function, sound or feel. Appreciate the comment!
@-KingOfKhaos7 ай бұрын
16:06 - You begin the boosting phase of the program lol… I asked my last question about the tube screamer too early 😂
@resington7 ай бұрын
Dude, bringing the best demo videos everytime!
@juanmelgar1522 ай бұрын
My God. I need this amp Maybe the combo or the 25 for my home studio.
@joelspaulding59647 ай бұрын
Just what I need. Seriously. I need it. You received a positive mention on Glenn's channel a few days back. Nice
@fadingdimension6 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to compare the modded amp against unmodded with a tube screamer in front.
@6slayer6sam627 ай бұрын
The jeans joke made me lol 😂..
@davevanconant74887 ай бұрын
Holy cow I think this is what I've been looking for for my badlander. I always wanted just a bit more oomph f you will and this would be great!! I always wondered if mr scary would work with this amp!
@wadekresak21495 ай бұрын
Catching my eye is the MXR SB OD being on. Was it part of the signal, besides cream jeans? 🤣😉
@Fanafranky7 ай бұрын
Holy crap. I knew that mod was great on lower gain Marshalls but never thought it would work on anything with higher gain 😛 Now I want one! (Or at least a NAM or ToneX capture 🙃)
@tractorgt7 ай бұрын
Interesting you have a McCarty 594. The necks on those things are like baseball bats.
@JorisGriffioen7 ай бұрын
I tried that mod in the mini JCM800 and it RIPS
@corpsefiendriffs6 ай бұрын
These Mr. Scary mods are so sick. I just wish they'd work with older amp platforms like my Peavey 5150 II. No possible way that could happen though lol.
@belligerentamateur6 ай бұрын
curious why you would want to use it on the 5150ii though? that amp has insane amounts of gain and low end, so I am curious what you think it would add to the amp?
@corpsefiendriffs6 ай бұрын
@belligerentamateur My idea is to use the Mr. Scary mod to get away from overdrive pedals, as I'm a huge fan of the amp by itself. I just feel like it needs a little more push in the preamp section harder to get the clarity and harmonic richness I'm after. In other words, I'm a caveman and I want to chug just plugging straight in lol.
@belligerentamateur6 ай бұрын
@@corpsefiendriffs this does not do that. it doesn't tighten or add input signal. it's simply another gain stage being added to the preamp
@corpsefiendriffs6 ай бұрын
@belligerentamateur Oooh, for sure. The search continues for me, then. 🤣 Cheers, man!
@gkswift19997 ай бұрын
I got to say, I'm a bigger fan of the 50W because it is tighter, more low mid and hi mids bold, and sounds like a raging pit bull lit on fire
@mikeham31237 ай бұрын
Would you consider doing the new line 6 pod express?
@LizardWizard_6 ай бұрын
Can you put that in one of those bantamps by joyo? 😂
@bradleejaymz5 ай бұрын
I realize this is the wrong channel to ask this question but just in case someone tried this what did the mod do to the Badlanders clean channel? Nobody seems to have a video for this.
@llnkv_3 ай бұрын
I’ve talked to a few people. They mentioned the cleans are still great, you just need to turn down the amp gain more than you would without the mod
@bradleejaymz2 ай бұрын
I ended up answering my own question. Bought a Badlander and a Mr Scary. It basically adds more gain but doesn’t turn the amp into a blues machine. Still tight and compressed. Also I love the amp stock. I don’t use the Mr Scary in it. I does work great in the Friedmans I tried though.
@hyperbolekid7 ай бұрын
Sounds siiick! Which version of the Mr Scary mod is it? Standard or Reversed?
@sir.shreddington7 ай бұрын
Standard is what works with the badlander
@omarheavy20097 ай бұрын
I had a Roadster and I did my best to like it but unfortunately could not! I would like to give a try and get a mini rectifier.. my question, would that Mr. Scary work on Mini rectifier?
@josephbutler1487 ай бұрын
Mini recto was fizzy enough stock just balance the presence and bass. Can't believe you didn't like the roadster that amp with a peppers dirty tree is the best mesa I have heard. Sounded better than the dual rec did with that same boost or any other boost and sounded better than the jp2c I had.
@omarheavy20097 ай бұрын
@josephbutler148 I sold it already.. could not deal with it 😅 and yes, I've tried it with DT but not for me at the end. I still like my DC-5, DC-10 & Mark V more than the Roadster that i had!
@Voronguitar7 ай бұрын
Excellent comparaison man! Thanks a lot! Have you tried MrScarry mon on your Tripple Crown amp ???? Will be nice o hear it!
@DLR19767 ай бұрын
Great ! I wanna try it on my Elmwood M60 to get new sounds ;)
@stefanokrivtzoff15937 ай бұрын
Man that’s one sick mod.. it’s like gates of hell opened
@DCDacey-cq6nb7 ай бұрын
Also, seems like pick ups that have lots of low end or mid range. Sound kind of muddy also. To me, it sounds like the ones that most people think are trebley Sound very clear through a high gain amp. I’m wondering what your thoughts are?
@CaptainFantastik17 ай бұрын
“not enough gain in the original”? I would argue 100% of the people who said that actually need less gain and more practice.
@belligerentamateur6 ай бұрын
I would argue you are huffing your own farts and nobody cares what you think.
@davevanconant74887 ай бұрын
Hey kyle looking to purchase that mod, was that the standard wired one you had purchased?
@LegendaryTones7 ай бұрын
Standard wire for the Badlander and it also needs a socket extension which I can supply as well.
@douglasdog17 ай бұрын
“Jeans creamed by somebody else” intrusive thoughts coming to light?
@jackconvex95246 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait so I could potentially put this in my blue doo doo
@FartCoffinStudios7 ай бұрын
You’re not afraid of the gain! I love it! Sounded sick. Cheers man.
@yousocrazy11997 ай бұрын
i only have the 25 watt but it sound really good. im not sure if that mod works with a 25 watt version. but for me this amp sound really good different flavor but good. upon listening to the video i dont think i need a mod, just add a OD and emg like 57 even with 25watt the gain is more that enough. OD could be a Gridslammer or a Tempest.
@danpena79226 ай бұрын
The mr scary would be cool in a plexi..
@smeemusic7 ай бұрын
I thought the badlander was incredible from the start. But this mod is really cool. I definitely enjoy what it’s doing. Also, I want a purple light for my amp!! How do I get a purple light for my amp?! But I’m not sporting a badlander. I got a 100 watt evh.
@michaelv33227 ай бұрын
Boosted stock amp sounded the best!
@mikehorowitz27935 ай бұрын
Hey Kyle! I was about to pull the trigger on this mod for my Badlander, and came across the KSR Orion 45. Are you going to get your hands on one of those bad boys anytime soon? Just wondering your thoughts if/when you do!! Thx, Mike
@MetalHeadProductions7 ай бұрын
"Thankfully, he's gone now." Truth.
@ejw30063 ай бұрын
I wonder if this would work with the Ironheart, I know it’s not on the list for the mod but I just wonder since without the boost it tends to lack gain for a high gain amp
@irishRocker16 ай бұрын
Stock vs modded is interesting of course but should have compared boosted stock vs modded no boost. that's the real comparison anyone with one of these amps wants to hear. "buy the scary mod or a boost pedal"
@CinemaPuree7 ай бұрын
great tonez!
@HVACRTECH-836 ай бұрын
Awsome, big difference for sure, but can i ask what was wrong with the ltd tuning wise? I have 3 ltd's and although ive never had any issues with any of mine in any way im curious if you found the issue in case i ever have the same problem. Thx bro
@toddcontino7271Ай бұрын
I need to do whatever it is you do for a living so I can have all that amazing gear….jelly…
@VP-eq4nc5 ай бұрын
Wow the Badlander is the best sounding Marshall that Mesa ever made I think?🤔
@MK-oz2lf7 ай бұрын
Hey Kyle, you know that GUPTECH PEd EQ pedal you have. What if you use that to add more resonance to the stock Badlander?
@iwannarockon20107 ай бұрын
That was pretty sick 🤘
@madmikemike4 ай бұрын
Omgawd Kyle you're the best. Dood buys another amp head for a/b comparison. ❤
@KelticKabukiGirl7 ай бұрын
Haven't checked yet, but have been thinking about the Mr Scary mod to possibly get my ROckerverb100MKII closer to Revv G4 tones, and if it works in a Dark Terror That would be crazy..... Apparently only for the OR50 since I just checked. Maybe I should just sell the Orange for a Revv 120