The Messed Up Origins of Tarzan | Disney Explained - Jon Solo

[@ayanamcr.7303]

Makes friends with the *elements* Tarzan, you're the avatar.

[@bigttv392]

He ment elephants

[@rooiflitz]

@@bigttv392 r/wooooosh

[@niniesappa8107]

You know that he included the word elephant but I like the comment

[@hailedspace25]

@@bigttv392 r/woosh

[@mixedmango2870]

Yes. Just yes

[@ayosiku2]

I actually had this Tarzan graphic novel as a kid that had 100% story drawn out from the original 1912 novel. Very graphic and bloody and I appreciated the story a lot.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Is it the first dynamite lord of the jungle comic?

[@Garagedoordude23]

Link???

[@rorymcgregor625]

​@@Garagedoordude23 Yeah that sounds like it would be awesome

[@ancientdarkness3102]

I love the disney movie for how "realistic" the gorillas are portrayed. Not as violent bloodthirsty beasts but as peaceful and gentle society with a charismatic and protective leader. Also the way tarzan is built and the way he moves around is literally how a human would most likely do if raised by apes.

[@magnipettersson4432]

Well its actually wrong to say “hes raised by apes” when homo Sapiens is very much indeed a species of great ape. The story interested me from a different perspective. We are afterall much closer related to chimps and bonobos than bonobos and chimps are related to gorillas. Not just evolutionarily but also behaviourily and in fact without culture we share 95% of our body language with chimps. Thats to say our babies are born essentially speaking chimpanzee language to us and we do a damn good job understanding alot of the time. Chimps smile. They also show Teeth when angry? Ever seen an angry person before they might attack someone? Clenched Teeth and lips instinctually pulled back. Chimps have to deal with Two ape species. Thats alot of apes in one place. They have to deal with both gorillas and humans. Chimps understand our similarities and actually attack and invade both us humans but also gorillas. To chimpanzees we are just Big weird hairless apes. Heavily Ground based ones too. I also think we confuse Them and they just go with what they know from themselves and gorillas. Male=strong Female=weaker but still able to fight back for a while Child=easy attack to weaken enemy clan perhaps even food. Well in Uganda this was really seen. Chimps invade a village. Fully knowing its something like themselves. They find a Girl in her yard with her grandmother and then grab her and take her up in a tree. As the chimps Hoot in Victory and succes. Now they have a victory against their neighboring apes, But according to villagers they dare not attack when “combat aged” men are present Chimps are capable of jealousy and anger, unfairness and feeling unfairness. They have feelings but no moral compass. Well some might actually have some because their societies hold many personalities but that is a deep topic. We are not new to these creatures and in a way they are not new to us.

[@walterhoward5512]

Tarzan was one of the most popular fictional characters of his day and perhaps of all time. He's iconic well beyond the Disney movie.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

The ERB books are pretty much little known in comparison to the live action tv shows and more recently mockbusters.

[@walterhoward5512]

@@SlapstickGenius23 The character has grown past any single interpretation. Tarzan is an iconic character in fiction.

[@Shagamaw-100]

@@walterhoward5512 Agreed.

[@peterschadenberg9045]

I actually like George of the Jungle starring Brendan Fraser much more then Disney's animated Tarzan. I haven't seen (but should maybe get around to it) the Tarzan movies starring Johnny Weissmuller.

[@willlyon7129]

The story has been done to death in the movies and tv shows.

[@Savetheseas7]

I wonder how Tarzan never grew a beard, he lived in the jungle for his whole life and never learned to shaved.

[@lenarosic]

He did grew beard, but started shaving by watching/mimicing African tribe men.

[@allisonsanders1722]

Lena Rosic that makes sense

[@XxMistaOmgxX]

Not everyone grows facial hair also lol ive never shaved and I barely have a mustache nd a lil chin hair🤣🤣🤣

[@AgamemnonVsSocratesAandS]

Ya he didnt want any facial hair because he didnt want to be hairy like the apes, but smooth faced like many of the men in the picture books.

[@masongoser5627]

That's why he originally takes the hunting knife from the cabin, to shave with

[@Kayley199514]

"makes friends with the elements" Water Earth Fire Air Long ago the four nations lived together in harmony, But then, everything changed when kerchak attacked. Only Tarzan, master of all four elements, could stop him. But when the jungle needed him most, He fell in love with a British girl and vanished.

[@Ownlight11111]

BUT I BELIEVE AANG CAN SAVE THE WORLD

[@Plantlover8898]

UrLittleGamer nice timing

[@airotiv7916]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍💜

[@joycenoellalondole6601]

@@Ownlight11111 oml 😂😂

[@reallyreitumetse]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@TheeMademoiselle]

I loveeeee how you tell stories

[@MrJackandnikki]

Me too for sure

[@Josh-ru6dm]

I just really like his voice.

[@itstheundisputedsagboo]

Real shit, me too

[@panasonicyt1116]

No cap

[@MrPandarilla]

I love his scripts but I wish he would hire a voice actor

[@thunderfist25]

The fact that no one has successfully adapted the entire Tarzan series into movies or tv is astounding

[@tylerkister4628]

Yeah they had a live action movie about 6 years ago I believe it was meant to be a sequel however it was not great

[@conniecarroll747]

Johnny Weissmuller made several back in the 30s, and I believe there was a series somewhere in the 60s or 70s.

[@Blizzard-kf3qm]

I know there were a couple movies in the 80s.

[@duaneaikins4621]

Tarzan, legend of Greystone follows the book pretty well.

[@bradyd.6332]

Same with the wizard of oz books!

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

The original story sounds like it would make for an amazing open world survival game.

[@JassLJ]

Especially if Obisoft was the one to make the game? They would make it similar to Assassin's creed minus the martial arts and killing.

[@DrgnMage2536]

The 1984 movie Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, does a great retelling of the Tarzan story, showing D'Arnot teaching Tarzan how to communicate. It's a great movie!

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Honestly I have two DVDs of Disney’s Tarzan and Tarzan 2. Both are generally aimed at preteens in comparison to the more recent Constantin film, which is definitely aimed at teenagers and is basically a rather ill conceived competitor to the Twilight films!

[@darrylmallard2532]

I read Tarzan myself. Although the book was indeed a a good read, as an African American, I found it VERY disturbing in many ways and you really candy coated a lot of Tarzan's interaction with the Africans. I didn't see much cannibalism among their own people... or at all for that matter. However, it is seen from bones outside the village that they were cannibal. As in most cultures, these were probably the bones of captive enemies, probably not their own tribesmen. Tarzan does indeed kill M'bonga's son for killing his ape mother, but his treatment of M'bonga's people goes FAR beyond mere pranks. He habitually murders them for (not only their weapons, ornaments and clothes) but for fun. This even AFTER they begin to leave offerings of the same stuff to appease the believed angry spirit. Tarzan really terrorizes M'bonga's people and there's nothing funny about it. In book two, after returning to Africa, he even looks for M'bonga's people again for a bit of murder and thievery, but is disappointed to find they've finally abandoned the cursed place and cannot be found. So what does Tarzan do? He goes looking for them, of course. He finally finds a native hunter who he immediately notices is NOT of the same people of M'bonga's tribe, but is still black... so he begins to stalk him. Fortunately for the native, although at first Tarzan is looking forward to dropping a noose over the man's head and lynching him (his usual method of murder and terror) he now has a bit of conscious about it after having lived in Europe. He now begins to see his behavior (even towards a black man) as murder and robbery. His mind is finally made up when a lion jumps out and attacks the hunter and instinctively he rushes to the man's aid. To his shame and mortification, the grateful hunter takes him to his village and he is given freely everything he would have taken by murder and thievery. Oh, and the apes Tarzan lived with were NOT gorillas but a similar species called the "Great Apes" or "Mangani". The author makes a clear distinction between the two antagonistic groups.

[@megriorso4516]

I came to the comment section to make a few of these observations but you've really expressed it more than I have the will to. Thanks

[@dethkatmetalbaby]

Sign of the times. Canniballistic bad guys is similar to other groups of "bad guys" i.e. "Indians", "Nazis", "delinquents", "crazy people" and all kinds of stereotypes people have used until they get to know that group themselves. Don't take the "isms" seriously in 2019 or next we'll be picking apart gender issues in literature that's over 100 years old. Edit 2022: I can't believe I'm still getting messages on this thread. Calm down, I was illustrating groups that are used as generic bad guys. The "supposed" was because not everyone I listed would be recognized as "bad" i.e. Indians = not bad in most representations today, but back in an old western the Indians were often treated as the "bad guys" lumped in with people like the Nazis (BAD). Being mentally ill doesn't make you like a Nazi either, yet mentally ill people often get portrayed as bad guys. Capiche?

[@christmastiger]

@@dethkatmetalbaby "Don't take the "isms" seriously in 2019 or next we'll be picking apart gender issues in literature that's over 100 years old." We've already been doing that, there have been college classes for at least half a century dedicated to just that. Not saying it's a bad thing, but just saying examining the cultural meanings behind literature has been going on way longer than these recent years.

[@Anituer13]

I figured there may have been more to it when he mentioned him taunting the tribes and later stringing up the torturer from a tree. I figured that since it was made in 1912 that it may have been especially messed up. But anyway, thanks for this

[@meeg8778]

@@dethkatmetalbaby youre seriously messed up if you refer to Nazi's as "supposed bad guys" and essentially say they are misrepresented and then put them in the same category as first nations people... they were worse than just bad guys they were cold blooded murderers who tortured people

[@sapphiresorceress7007]

I swear when he revealed Clayton to be Tarzan’s cousin & Tarzan to be the rightful inheritance to Clayton’s wealth I spazzed tf out! 😂 it’s like I’m watching a soap opera 🍿🤫👀 😂

[@tenhirankei]

Where do you think their writers got some of their ideas?

[@dalemcgathy4996]

And that Clayton was actually a decent guy too

[@nikotylers4652]

@@dalemcgathy4996 which one? Will or "Tarzan*?

[@dalemcgathy4996]

Both actually

[@WingChunHall]

Good review. One correction: the creatures that raised Tarzan were not gorillas. The series makes it clear several times that they were a different, heretofore undiscovered species alternatively called, "Great Apes," and "Anthropoid Apes." The novel was written about 50 years after, "The Origin of Species," and Burroughs was playing with the idea of evolution. Burroughs' Great Apes had a rudimentary language, which makes Tarzan's transition more believable. In their language they refer to themselves as, "Mangani," and to the gorillas as, "Bolgani:" not the same species.

[@WingChunHall]

No. Look here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangani

[@gajeeI]

Jon: *made friends with the elements* Me: HE KNEW THE AVATAR !?

[@nicolasacosta1673]

They should make a gritty high budget series out of the Tarzan books, this sounds great.

[@darthpancake7639]

I’m here before “the thieves” make a video strongly influenced by this one (not to be confused with stealing. They definitely don’t steal. Definitely)

[@JonSolo]

They would NEVER do such a thing!

[@SakiBlablabla]

Wow sad that can be to have such a lack of originality - -'

[@TheClari25]

What's the story behind this? Who's videos are "based off" of Jon Solo's videos?

[@BadPerception]

TheClari25 It’s not TheThings. Definitely.

[@allanlaerz7525]

Because no one ever talked about the original story about Tarzan before February 12 2018.

[@jmurphy95]

This feels like a missed opportunity to be wearing a loincloth Jon.

[@JonSolo]

How do you know I'm not?

[@graceelliot9985]

Jon Solo oh 😂😂😂

[@stellar.snailz1946]

+Jon Solo interesting

[@highsocietypottery9381]

😂😂😂💀☠🤦🏿‍♀️🥂

[@Hazel17484]

You know nothing Jon 'Clayton'...

[@kenziehurlock]

I prefer George of the Jungle starring Brendan Fraser

[@animethighssavelives]

Yeahhh

[@DreamFactories]

Watch out for that tree!!

[@simonj3413]

🎵George, George, George of the jungle

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

Did you ever notice that George of the Jungle and Titanic have the same plot? Curly-haired beauty is being pressured by her mother into marrying a rich twit. While on a journey, the beauty is saved from death by a poor but handsome rogue. The rogue whisks her away into a world of much cooler friends and dances with her. The rich twit nearly kills the rogue, who is resced by the beauty. In the end, the beauty, clad in an elegant white gown, is united with the rogue, clad in his simple garb, while a mixed crowd from both the rich and poor worlds look on in joy and admiration.

[@antonydrossos5719]

The cartoon was an absolute fave of stoned college students in the '70s

[@glenjennett]

I remember watching a movie that came out in 1984 called "Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes". It's a live action depiction of the story that I think you might be interested in if you enjoy the story as it shows what it might be like if Tarzan were found and brought back to civilization.

[@jeyfomson6364]

Tarzan was played by Christopher Lambert in that movie.

[@mistiroberts1576]

I remember that movie

[@iwantgoals1566]

What’s crazy is the fact that the book plot was actually better than the movies and a set of books written over 100 years ago has enough material to make a series!

[@AjRangler]

“Makes friends with the elements.” 😂😂

[@isaiahadams1996]

Niyah the savage He meant to say elephants. I’m surprised they didn’t edit that while making this video

[@oceanbannedontwitch8270]

Isaiah Adams r/woosh

[@guilhermefranco2930]

@@oceanbannedontwitch8270 Why. It was a joke. The original guy commented on something that didn't make sense. The other guy just explained it. It's not a r/wooosh

[@natashaestes154]

@@isaiahadams1996, there's an asterisk that fixes it on screen :)

[@4Valentinus]

Niyah the Savage he's the Avatar

[@mange2696]

Comment and like on this if ur frogs are gay

[@pattonramming1988]

Disney logic friend

[@mrdude88]

GayBae Tragic

[@bighara]

In the book, Jane was from Baltimore

[@nctpti2073]

@@bighara And in the book, he learns English from a French man who was in the same expedition as Jane, after being taught French by him

[@BernardProfitendieu]

*evolution*

[@MartyRotten]

One other thing Burroughs made clear in his book was that the apes that raised Tarzan were NOT gorillas. He referred to them as Mangani, or great apes, a made up species that was actually somewhat more evolved than the gorillas of the jungle. Also, William Clayton was not at all the villain in the first book, he was just Tarzan's civilized cousin, who later gets engaged to Jane (who really loved Tarzan) and claimed the title of Lord Greystoke in John Clayton (aka Tarzan's) absence. Tarzan later discovers his claim but nobly steps aside, thinking Jane would better off with William, and goes to France with Paul D'Arnot. (SPOILER ALERT) In the second book, RETURN OF TARZAN, William dies heroically while trying to protect Jane from the Beast Men of Opar. This video should be about everything Disney got wrong about Tarzan.

[@ZIM626]

I just finished listening to the audiobook. Absolutely loved it. I'm a language nerd and I laughed out loud when d'Arnot taught Tarzan French phonology through English vocabulary. Whenever Tarzan came across an English word he would read it aloud in French. As an example, when he saw the word 'man' in English he would say the French equivalent 'homme', thus associating the French sounds with the English letters. Basically, Tarzan could read and write in English but he couldn't speak it. Whereas he could speak French but he could not read or write it. Absolutely hilarious.

[@DrDolan2000]

And when Tarzan meets Jane, it is one of the cutest/funniest moments

[@JonSolo]

Thanks for watching, the love, and the support #SoloFam! So happy we reached our LIKE goal this week!! :D

[@scottedwards8733]

Jon Solo I love your work! ☺

[@absolutechaosgaminggamesvl6456]

JON JON JON JON TARZAN'S SON IS JACK THE RIPPER DUH DUH DUUUUH😱

[@amerzada]

Did you know that tublat appears in Tarzan : the series

[@Foustdoodles98]

Jon Solo could you do a Messed up Origins on Treasure Planet? I'm sure you would have a great time watching Treasure Planet and have fun reading Treasure Island.

[@xcmet]

you should do the messed up origin of the jungle book.

[@puyearprod.929]

I read one of the Tarzan books while in jail. Also read books like To Kill a Mockingbird, Zoo, and The Protector. All good books

[@ajwall1]

You forgot the part where tarzan hangs black tribesmen to steal their arrows and for fun

[@tsuvex2989]

He said they were African

[@deairajones3795]

Aiyaluna Yourke not all Africans are black

[@tsuvex2989]

@@deairajones3795 obviously

[@machicote1225]

Aiyaluna Yourke not all Africans are black tho Tarzan was technically African

[@hawkeyemihawk4492]

@@deairajones3795 Not all Europeans are white?

[@brandonbyrd1307]

I didn't think much of Tarzan before this video, now I see him as a certified badass.

[@mohamedhamza456]

The first time I read the word TARZAN, was in the philosophical novel _Hay ibn Yaqdhan_ (Alive son of Vigilant ) of Andalusian philosopher *Ibn Tufayl* who lived in the 13th century Ce. That word was the name of the island where the main character of the novel was raised by a female deer, after loosing his family in shipwreck to which he was the only survival.

[@TheQuestionmarkstudi]

Tarzan the prankster lol I can see it now..

[@mikegrossberg8624]

Burroughs added that Tarzan's sense of humor was, shall we say, rather "dark"

[@theflyingspaghettimonster4165]

"iTS jUsT A prAnK brO"

[@royalestfoolofspades8252]

"Teaching himself to weed and wright" Me: *WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE* "He makes friends with the elements" Me: *WHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* Thanks for the laughs John :D

[@MarzAttacks]

Wow i want to read the book now! Great video jon!

[@JonSolo]

thanks Marley! :D

[@nerdyvariety3105]

John Carter of Mars is better, ignore the terrible movie

[@MarzAttacks]

Diminsonsam terrible?! It was amazing!!! 😃

[@KhadijahJoySams93]

You should. It's good.

[@jessemiller5831]

Smh

[@animehuntress9018]

There is a recent Live action of Tarzan that is not Disney, and I absolutely loved it since it followed the books closer. They did it in a retro faction so its more of a Tarzan Sequel that retells the first book through the incidents they encounter. Facing the chief of the tribe who's son killed his mother and so Tarzan killed the son, and so on. I'm disappointed that it didn't get as much of the recognition it deserved because it was amazingly done and absolutely a great watch.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

The WB legend of Tarzan is good, but too dreary for my liking.

[@trinitywatson7783]

“you know what’s even crazier?” love that transition into gaining that coin

[@shor3.s]

11:20 That was smooth

[@elizabethboydmusic]

Woah! The original story was awesome! I hope they someday make a film adaption that closely resembles the book (I loved the Disney cartoon, of course...I mean, Phil Collins).

[@brianworden7022]

Elizabeth James Go watch the old movie.. it will be in black and white but they are based on Edgar Rice Burroughs book.. Oh Yeah it is a film from 1918 so you can probably find it free on here at least that is the oldest adaptation.

[@mikegrossberg8624]

That was with Elmo Lincoln. Actually, the portrayal of Tarzan closest to Burroughs' description of him was tv Tarzan Ron Ely( except that Tarzan's hair was supposed to be black, and Ely was a blond)

[@boatman8736]

They actualy did in the 80's tarzan is played by christophe lamber

[@basedmek]

I think most recent and canonical Tarzan adaptation is called George of the Jungle

[@madialba]

Elizabeth James same Phil Collins

[@TheHouinMark]

I'd love to see a open world game based on Tarzan!

[@Meela9088]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few out already

[@Hassan-ww8jf]

​@caitlinmorris9088 there were a couple of games but they were based on Disney's Tarzan

[@TheHouinMark]

@caitlinmorris9088 None that is open world.

[@chavamara]

Tarzan in the book also feels superior to almost everyone and everything around him, including the apes who raised him, to an uncomfortable degree. He is also basically a Gary Stu, being impossibly good at everything. He learns how to use definitive pronouns CORRECTLY from books, which definitely impossible to do without outside help, and knows how to spell his own name, despite not knowing what sounds the letters he writes should make. And Tarzan is described as a, "forest god," every other page. (I don't mind if an author develops a crush on his character, but I don't want to have to hear about it all the bloody time!)

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Gary Stu logic.

[@Exarch-ee9fi]

That's pretty much the appeal of Tarzan and John Carter awesome early male power fantasy

[@markgilbertjr413]

I’m listening to the audiobook again after all these years. Gary Stu is right. Every other page is praising the guy. if you want proof, read the second book and listen to the dialogue Tarzan is given. Bear in mind, he’d been speaking a human language for around a year

[@Melissa-wx4lu]

I read the first book almost 20 years ago and funny enough there are two things I remember most about it. One is the heartbreak of Kala carrying her dead baby for a while before finding Tarzan and, seeing an infant that is alive, switches her dead baby for Tarzan. Tarzan even finds the tiny skeleton of the dead ape in the cradle. And the second is that Tarzan's famous speech to Jane was actually written to her on a leaf, since he couldn't talk.

[@izzienewton-cross512]

Could you possibly do 'The Emperors New Groove' (if there is one XD) it would be so funny

[@evandangel8173]

It's based off of The emperor's new clothes... so... That's about as close as you're gonna get. It was originally gonna be called Valley of the sun, so, maybe Aztec origins?

[@lunasuji]

Evan Dangel actually Inca. It takes place in the old Inca empire, Peru. The Aztecs ruled the Valley of mexico.

[@evandangel8173]

Oh. Well, you knew what I meant. Thx!

[@oliviag.5486]

Izzie Newton-Cross oh yaaaaaaaaas please

[@shellaholcomb9226]

Izzie Newton-Cross LLAMA KILLER

[@jamesmcginnis6707]

I literally shrieked every time you said “dee arnot”

[@lorenaf3573]

The story of Tarzan is inspired by the story of Jane's life which was based on real life

[@systemofahoedown9664]

I can't express how much I love Tarzan. It's my all time favorite movie in the world and you certainly did it justice with this video. I thought I was crazy how in the movie, Terk it a female and Tarzan's bff but in the book, Terk is an enemy. I never knew how batshit wild Kerjack was. I dislike how in many of the comments, people are painted Tarzan to be a bad person. I understand that murder isn't great, but come on! They killed his mother. Are you telling me that no one would do something equally insane if someone even touched their mom? Those villagers had it coming and it has nothing to do with race. Tarzan couldn't have the ability to be racist when he was raised in a jungle by apes. Clayton being related to him is just wild af to me and I love how much of a badass his parents were. I loved this so much that I'm gonna watch Tarzan now and make it my business to read all the books. Thank you so much for making my night with this 🥰

[@infuryz.4306]

Tarzan really is a badass in the books, he always suprises lol

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Terkina is a female gorilla while Terkoz, her counterpart in the books, is a male Mangani.

[@orangeslash1667]

I'm not sure why Disney made Terk a girl, when Terk was a guy in the books???????

[@18breaths66]

Just read book last year. Tarzan murdered the Africans for fun. His preferred method was hanging. You seemed to downplay this.

[@canaisyoung3601]

He probably had to...to keep the KZbin complaints at bay.

[@Whoisthatguy906]

A nice monetization a day keeps the KZbin police away

[@BJ-bi9xv]

don't (they) always.

[@A.S._Trunks]

I mean the book was written is 1912 so yeah

[@Andrew-fq7pu]

He hunted & killed a certain tribe. There were obvious reasons for this. They hunted and killed his family, including his mother, and were also murderous cannibals. They deserved to be killed.

[@gabriella9357]

Love the vid,can't wait for the next messed up origins their my fav

[@melmac1164]

Hahah i love making friends with the elements. Luv ya Jon

[@jamiegarrity6439]

I love the way you tell your stories Jon. I also appreciate how much time and effort you put into researching everything. I'm a huge history buff and always look forward to watching your vids! 😎😀😁 plz keep posting more stories! Stay safe!

[@canotajman]

I never knew Tarzan had such an interesting origin story.

[@michaelogrady232]

I used to have a 1914 edition of Tarzan along with a 1905 edition of the Elder Eddas. Great books!

[@hiiambarney4489]

imagine disney didnt own all the rights to everything ever and this could make for a decent but gritty netflix series.

[@Shagamaw-100]

Depends on who owns the Film and TV rights considering how Tarzan is partially in the public domain

[@anthonyfrias5533]

Yay it would someone tell Netflix to make it

[@kevinsaviro2708]

There’s a movie about Tarzan from like the 1930s or something. Its pretty messed up i think

[@anthonyfrias5533]

@@kevinsaviro2708 what's it called

[@kevinsaviro2708]

@@anthonyfrias5533 Tarzan lol

[@sca8217]

As a kid, reading Rice Burroughs's original books, Tarzan was an exhilarating vine swing through the deep forest. The young mind somehow does not register the inherent white superiority and dark savage tropes (which you start recognizing as you grow older and worldwise). The story of Tarzan is brutal, unforgiving, littered with literal skeletons of all of Tarzan's parents. There is intrigue when seeing Tarzan's written communication with Jane's party unfold, joy when tarzan finally encounters Jane, a slight sadness when Tarzan returns to 'civilization' reclaims his title of Lord Greystoke, only to learn that the duplicitous world of civilized humans is not his cup of tea... It's a rollercoaster ride.

[@christenhope4416]

Oh my gosh every time you upload I don’t even care what I’m doing but I’ll drop it to watch your video!☺️

[@seanmar1738]

After reading Princess of Mars (Disney's John Carter) by the same author, I realized that Edgar Rice Burroughs must have been familiar with the old story, "King of Tars", and that he was consciously utilizing the theme of the noble person transported to survive in the savage world liberally. I say "consciously" because you have the obvious and repeated naming parallels employed by the author; Tarzan, Tars Tarkas, and Princess of Mars. Working my way through Tarzan right now.

[@Mystcret]

I just want to clarify that Tarzan wasn't raised by gorillas but unknown ape species. Gorillas were their enemies. Sometimes I found Victorian style of books a little bit hilarious. For example, after killing the first man (black cannibalist) Tarzan was ready to eat his flesh but he couldn't because some strange force told him not to do it. So, Tarzan just knew western moral code though he saw the villagers eating human flesh.

[@shadowfire9118]

Awesome video Jon. 25 books eh that’s some reading right there

[@emilyjackson9759]

Hi Jon can you please do Peter Pan. I always wanted to know what messed up origins await in that story.. 😁 if you do that I will be very grateful.

[@antoniasirotich7021]

Emily Jackson It's not something special really. We had to read it in 3rd grade and the book is pretty much the same as the movie.

[@TishaMae]

Peter is a jerk who pretty much forgets Wendy and her brothers throughout the books, even forgets tinkerbell when she dies. Hook isn't as much of a joke but very handsome and charming actually ala ouat or Jason Isaacs version. It's second to the right and straight on til morning, no star. And Neverland actually is a place you go in your sleep and Wendy had been there before (she actually has a wolf). Lots of little things that i remember at the moment

[@antoniasirotich7021]

Tisha Yes, but the animated movie still is pretty accurate, and the original isnt really messed up

[@angelashook3717]

Antonia Sirotich he did because I saw it he did look it up

[@angelashook3717]

Antonia Sirotich how do you do that?

[@noxturne16]

“Long hair, wears a loincloth” Me: Kars is that you?

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Also reminds me of a JoJo character watching his favourite Tarzan movie ever, the 1981 so bad it’s good softcore cult classic!

[@bebemaala]

I devoured these books when I was young. Had forgotten some details since that was a long time ago. So happy that they are still being read and appreciated and enjoyed. Great entertainment. Wish the movies would have followed the books a bit better. Tarzan with Johnny Weismuller was fun, but really disappointing to someone who had read the books. I don't know if you read any other ERB books other than Tarzan. He did know how to weave a good yarn.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

I don’t mind Cheeta the chimp, but he’s such a cash grabby substitute for N’Kima, which means he’s become a long term scrappy in the eyes of most Burroughs purists and a growing number of fellow Burroughs fans in general.

[@ahleenah]

I can understand why this book was so popular

[@gusty7153]

the book ending can sorta count as a happy ending in a way. one of those odd endings where the moral is about giving up selfish desires to help loved ones be happy.

[@kyokushinnojoe]

In the book, I thought it was interesting that Tarzan had trouble eating another ape (or was it human?) due to realizing their similarities. It's been years since I've read the book, but it's so much darker than the movies.

[@jenniekelly571]

I love listening to your version of the origins of stories. I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago, and have been playing catch up as often as I can. I personally prefer the Tarzan movie starring Alexander Skarsgard, I like the eye candy..I mean that version. I grew up watching Ron Ely playing Tarzan on Saturdays, and always enjoyed the upright moral messages.

[@karinajakobsen8045]

I loved these books when i was a child, and also watched several of the old movies (I'm 40, so this was waaay before the disney adaptation). I don't think i read all of them, but it's a pretty extensive universe, with all those books ;)

[@peppermintparasite]

Can we please talk about the fact that Tarzan, who's never heard a human voice in his life untill Jane and her father show up, and yet, in the movie, Tarzan speaks with an American accent. If he's learning to speak English from British people, shouldn't he have a British accent?

[@hannahbellebraden1883]

A Frenchman taught Tarzan how to speak, so he would have spoken with a French accent.

[@rileyackison4495]

Yes I’m responding to a 2 year old comment. Anyways. Fun fact that was the original plan for the Disney cartoon. Tarzan would speak ape with an American accent and English with a British accent. One problem. The voice actor couldn’t do a British accent. So they ran with it.

[@jollyestjolly]

Hi jon i luv ur channel ur the best youtuber ever

[@LinneaM]

*Roller coaster indeed*

[@Mr.Lubbox-Lobsterlegz1]

Linnea M More like tree surfing

[@wontshutup1144]

Jon Shot first.... Real smooth and classy!

[@barbarahouk1983]

I am watching this again 5 yrs later. I am fascinated by the physical change in Jon's face. His dedication did not change; he has only gotten better. Now married. They are pet dog parents: Gunther as his dog and Penny as her dog; both are devoted to these fur babies. Currently an Ireland tour is planned. I wish I could go but alas I am too old physically. I shall enjoy the reports later. My wish is the universe treats all that goes with fairness and enrichment. I like Jon's endeavors and hope he has many more years producing his content.

[@ThyShadowAngel]

He’s my favorite character in the Disney movies and iv grew up doin stuff Tarzan did and this story makes me like him even more!💪🏼

[@tinkerjeeppublications9823]

I've read many of the Tarzan books, some of them several times. Some people will definitely take offense at this, but the beliefs of society in the era these books were written seem to be racist and sexist, and classist. Right? I mean, the protagonist is essentially a superman, a seeming demi-god. And he's a white, male, heterosexual, Noble-born, manly-man who kills wild predators and cannibal savages with primitive weapons. You can't get more anti-woke if you tried. Hitler must have loved this stuff, right? Here's the flip side. Tarzan hates modern civilization and frequently decries how modern man lies, cheats, molests, predates, brutalizes members of their own race, while this behavior is unseen in the animal kingdom. So he is a-humanist. He believes animals are the purer of the two types of creatures. Tarzan does persecute black men, but only those that hunt other humans for sport, torturing them then slaughtering them and eating them. PAUL (not William) D'Arnot was one such victim-to-be of the cannibals. Tarzan hates and punishes cannibals, but he has saved and befriended blacks who are good. The Waziri, for instance. Tarzan hates slavery and attempts to wipe out the trade in blacks as carried out by the Arab slavers. Tarzan also persecutes and prosecutes via jungle justice white men that break the law of innate right and wrong. And he is far from a vengeance-machine, letting the Russian rogues free numerous times before they met their respective demise, which Tarzan did not mete out. Tarzan is a member (by birth) of the white, privileged ruling class of England, but has no love for the title, the culture of hypocrisy, and the stuffiness of that society. In fact when things in the civilized world quickly go south, his acquired civilization is quickly shed like a thin veneer. Tarzan is a faithful lover, friend, and protector of justice, even though on occasion he is tempted to the lips and beds of other women, is placed in compromising situations, and falls on the wrong side of the written law. Tarzan, as written by Edgar Rice Burroughs over a century ago, is a complex, and one might say an ideal example of how a white noble man should act these days. He is above personal politics, does what is right, and does not respect or condemn people based on race, creed, or caste, but on their actions. Maybe we should overlook the veneer of Tarzan as he is often portrayed, and follow his example - interacting with our fellows honestly, and judging others by their actions.

[@infuryz.4306]

Man, that's totally right and this should be top comment. I've read the 1st 9 novels and number 12 and 17. I enjoyed these a LOT. I'd say I know a lot about the story aswell and can confirm this yea, Tarzan really hates humanity. E.g. In Paris, he gets chased by the cops because the woman he rescued betrayed him by telling the police that she's been attacked by Tarzan while in fact she's been attacked by some criminal group. This really annoyed Tarzan since he actually wanted to save the woman. Tarzan dislike society stuff like clothes and money.

[@jeyfomson6364]

I'm happy you mentioned this. Bless you for this.

[@samueltschetter2092]

This is like the only video that actually made me wanna get the app they are promoting

[@monicacastillo2246]

Cool, keep up the good work, I can't wait to see what messed up orgin is next!☺

[@SilverTwistVI]

What's fun is that disney made spin-off/sequell series that often took lot of ispiration from books... Tublat, a village of natives and some other interesting things from book can be seen

[@dangdiggity9916]

idk if its a coincidence or not but with some long slightly messy hair and a few years in the jungle you could honestly have the looks of a perfect tarzan. i think thats a compliment

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

ಠ_ಠ I just wanna know whether or not Kala nursed Tarzan or not. Actually no, I take that back. No I don't. But it is the only way an infant that small would have survived....

[@bighara]

It's expressly stated in the books that she did nurse him. However, ERB was a bit sloppy in his writing about young Tarzan/Lord Greystoke. A one-year old doesn't need to nurse. They can eat solids no problem. Also, he describes the "baby" as unable to even hold up his head. Most children are walking by one (or not long after).

[@scorpiusjoecrux2039]

@@bighara you are clearly from this age... At the time the author wrote, these were the characteristics children back then. Most children born in the 1980s for instance were born ' blind' they couldn't see.

[@wrencampbell1339]

He wouldn’t have needed nursing because Tarzan was at the age of one when his parents were killed.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@bighara nonhuman great apes breastfeed their young for longer than most humans. Usually four years at the median. Also, Tarzan would have been pretty hungry for a yearling toddler, because he was born to aristo parents in the tropics.

[@chooseyourpoison5105]

@@SlapstickGenius23 They weren't aging. Tarzan's father is described as having "come into his inheritance" and thus presumably in his early thirties, and Lady Alice is his "young bride" and thus in her early twenties. There is absolutely nothing in the book to say that they were "inbred" either; Alice's maiden name was Rutherford, no relation to Clayton or Greystoke is mentioned. Nor does living in the tropics retard a baby's growth, otherwise a large proportion of the world's population would be stunted, wouldn't they?

[@michaeloluwajuyemi4546]

I would love to see this version!

[@lawr5764]

There are 24 books in the series INCLUDING the first one. You should've mentioned the racism in the story. Not just the cannibals, but Jane's servant also. ( I think her name was Esmeralda) She is like the old "fat mammy" stereotype. I loaned an extra copy I have to a black co-worker friend. I gave him a heads up beforehand. He read well into the book, but finally quit and gave it back. He told me he couldn't take it anymore because of her. It's pretty shameful by today's standards, so be prepared. In the second book, Tarzan gets accepted into the WAZIRI tribe. Less raceism here as they are described as having "high foreheads" and "noble bearing". They were "good guys". At least there was some improvement! All the books are a good read. Tarzan fights Germans in WWI, Japanese in WWII, and discovers several lost cities. Also... When I was in college, I showed the book to a French gal who came to study in the U.S. She told me to pronounce "D'arnot" as DARNO and not DEE-ARNO.

[@f.h.4552]

paintedjaguar Was that suppose to prove something? Lol

[@DWOlsen]

Lawr 57 "CLAIMS BOOK IS RACIST" also Lawr 57 "I HAVE EXTRA COPIES I LOAN TO BLACK PEOPLE"

[@yourbabytee]

"I loaned it to a black co worker" um maybe that wasn't necessary to say?

[@juanrosales5564]

...

[@jman4668]

@@yourbabytee y?

[@justenooo]

He makes me wanna read but once I touch that book imma be like “Jon solo just make a video so I can hear your voice” SUCH amazing content

[@GD3HXCSRH]

I started procrastinating but I'm on book 4 of the series. Burroughs also did a crossover with Tarzan and his Pellucidar series. Tarzan book 13, "Tarzan at the Earth's Core" brings these two to life. I actually was fascinated with the Disney TV show when hollow earth was introduced. It's technically book four of the peluicdar series I believe. Burroughs inc still has authorized authors writing more Tarzan...in looking forward to giving Tarzan vs Kong a shot

[@fictionrumble]

the messed up origins of hunchback of notre dame

[@yessienova8485]

yesss!!

[@MzPink1992]

Isn’t it already messed up lol

[@fictionrumble]

Sharney the original is

[@fictionrumble]

cupp cakke yes

[@deviljho4260]

Sharney wait till u hear the origin

[@ritapak12]

So I used to get so upset when I watch the live version Tarzan because of all the changes like his mother dying and actual people in the village other than Jane and the people she brought, but I see they went a little more accurate to the origin of Tarzan now that I’ve seen this so thank you 😊

[@inoaulukou4558]

That's insane I grew up watching Tarzan loved it but the book is way more interesting nd has a lot more detail 💯🤙🏽

[@AssassinRavenCherry]

This movie makes me cry now sense I am a mother of a wonderful baby boy... and seeing the beginning of the Tarzan movie just brakes my heart

[@kristieb1301]

We all know your delightfully douchy ad drops are neccessary evils and after all this bingeing, a good one slipped the cracks 🥳🤣 Marvelous elocution Solo!! Sneaky whippersnapper, best one by far👏 On Topic Thought; Thrilled to see the utter depth of Tarzan properly being spoken on. So few know how heavily chronicled the tale gets. Keep'em coming🧡

[@CodenameJameslee]

My dad said Tarzan was a African story which was told to he as a kid but it was totally different from this story.

[@jedielliott]

What was the story you were told?

[@purtykatz]

True

[@MaryLou913]

Tell it...

[@snapmyneck8818]

What’s the story? :0

[@princessponee7916]

@@snapmyneck8818 Jungle Book

[@mysticanna5545]

Please do the messed up origins of Moana

[@isaiahadams1996]

Actually, Moana is completely original. No need to do a Messed Up Origin episode on that

[@jaziellara6984]

"Makes friends with the elements" *Clap Clap Clap* Good job Jon, good job 😂😂😂😂

[@Drewski_ZA]

That short hooked me so quickly

[@TapeApe341]

Lmao same

[@Jamaicanprincesss]

Love how tarzan just slides into frame from behind the tree to save Jane 😂

[@elineroebersfan]

Nobody: Litteraly Nobody: Not a single soul: Jon Solo:DeE-aRnOt

[@tayloredwards9144]

Please do the Hunchback of Notre Dame

[@neveahpotter-harrystwin2438]

Great video. Was really good. Would really like to you u do Pocahontas. Or Frozen

[@mikedeangelo682]

I grew up watching the old black and white Tarzan movies they were awesome

[@majorthe3rd]

That beat at the end. I’m just waiting for Bo to say “All the seat at the Sunday masses, filled with a massive mass of..” 😂😂 ahhh…nostalgia

[@LadyCeag840]

I loved the Tarzan series as a kid!!!

[@melisacangele9718]

In the Paramount s version of Tarzan and in the Disney s 1999 version of Tarzan it's kerchak the one who gets killed although Kala almost die in the Paramount s version but gets revived in the 1999 Disney version of Tarzan Kala doesn t die instead kerchak is the one who dies Kala stills alive because the african tribe didn t appear until the legend of Tarzan tv series in witch they use some things from the novels and others original characters like i remember that they use Tublat and Queen la

[@richardranke3158]

I grew up with the old Johnny Wiesmuller Tarzan movies. In my late teens I decided to read the actual books when I was in my late teens. Tarzan is one of the many stories I knew before I saw the Disney version...even before it came out.

[@Meela9088]

Ok never heard of those, maybe I should see them

[@michaelcorleone3286]

I used to watch Tarzan all the time as a kid during 4th grade. Your video makes me want to read the books!

[@fabiashii]

I'm right now reading the Tarzan book, it's so amazing. Specially when Tarzan and Jane Porter are together..