The Might Of The German Airforce The Bf-109 | World War II | IL-2 Great Battles | Dogfight.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ IL-2 STORE: il2sturmovik.com/ Just a little complication video of all my 109 action having a lot of fun in this German Workhorse, my experience has been that as long as you energy fight in the 109 and you're patient the thing is an absolute animal and its very very hard to shoot down. Hope you guys enjoyed the video and thank you for watching, much love.

[@eliseivizitiu3979]

GS, of course we enjoyed the video, thank you for this content. It's much more cooler to see this diversity between your videos on the chanel.

[@kentwilliams4152]

Question: Does the 109 you were flying have twin 50’s or twin .30’s? Thanks…

[@jr0815_aka_gulredrel]

Great videos, thanks for that. As the late 109s had Kommandogerät and automatic cooling shutters, how do you fly the allied fighters with their manual mixture, prop, supercharger, coolant and oil radiator control? Do you manage them manually or use the game's helper modes for them?

[@guyb7995]

Would be great if you could do a little walk through of the IL-2 web site and store explaining the different editions and what you would recommend to get started with it. Its quite different to DCS of course.

[@rachelle8534]

Could you do more IL 2 videos

[@pixlpotions]

DCS kicking up the WW2 production cause GS got everyone playing IL-2 now

[@Tamburello_1994]

More like GS finally got on board the Il-2 train. Some of us have been playing the game for longer than a minute.

[@pixlpotions]

@@Tamburello_1994 of course I've owed IL-2 since 2016 I just saw the DCS newsletter today and it was nothing but WW2 updates xD

[@hansn.433]

And it helps, that with the sale going on il2 is a lot cheaper then dcs

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@hansn.433 I'm heavily invested in both games!

[@chrisadish]

@@hansn.433 from the time GS mentioned sale, I bought il2 gb and I'm hooked!! Gonna get more on Friday! So far I got BOS, BOB, BOM, AND KUBA with a hurricane and p40. Really enjoying it! I have il2 1946 BAT as well.enjoying both!

[@hanswolfgangmercer]

2:00 this is why the 109 is my favorite in both DCS and IL-2. You fly it differently against different opponents. You have to be an energy fighter against spitfires and yaks, but when you're going up against a big heavy American fighter you're more of a turn fighter. It's never a dull time in the 109.

[@leroter5941]

P51D with 150 octane wants to have a word with your 109.

[@tommyhijmensen6257]

Shut up everyone the mighty focke wulf 190 wants to play....

[@Garthbrooks4756]

@Prime Artemis mustangs are probably the most overrated plane ever

[@gabrieloliveira5727]

Spitfire are turn fighters in most scenarios, but he needs a bit of energy fighting against planes that turns better

[@Jacksonflax]

@@Garthbrooks4756 They're fast planes that can get an 1-2 incredibly tight turns when it has airspeed. They took a brain to fly and skilled pilots performed very well with them.

[@oskar6661]

I'd imagine it's still a feature - but IL-2 used to allow you to opt to remove the armoured shielding behind the pilot - increasing your rearward visibility...though exposing you to more risk of gunfire.

[@Jannik_Stein]

Yes

[@1SaG]

@F-15J Eagle Pretty sure that only becomes available on the regular/"non-late" G-6.

[@halodude4481]

@@1SaGI’m a year late but you can also do that with the G-2 model!

[@Darrylx444]

You can remove the upper head rest armor for better vis in the 109. Some modesl have armored glass headrests. Also, the 109 E7 is a pretty decent turner for a 109. Beware the Hurri though.

[@violentincendiary]

The mark of a good pilot is discipline and patience. It's pretty evident based on the fact it doesn't particularly matter what you're flying that you've got the fundamentals down. Nice stuff GS!

[@maxrigtrup8514]

I bought this because of your newest IL 2 vids, and let me say, the VR in this is the most fun I’ve had in a flight sim in a long time. Great vids!!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thanks Max, really glad to hear you're enjoying the sim in VR, its indeed pretty awesome, I'm sure you guys can tell how much fun I'm having in it.

[@fakepivot]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I also bought it after you mentioned about sale, I have one question for you Growling.. How do you recognise enemy plane so well.. does playing in VR helps with that?.. anyway i am new to sim world. playing mainly with a cheap stick and mouse for head movement.. think i will stick to singeplayer campain for a bit..

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@fakepivot tbh spotting and IDing is harder for me in VR due to the reduced resolution the way I've been doing it is looking at the wings, the spitfire for example is very easy to pick out due to the wing and nose (from side profile) but I struggle with Hurricane and 109 at distance. when you get a little closer and you can make our the nose of the hurricane its a little easier. Basically know you aircraft side/top/bottom silhouettes.

[@tonyrun5802]

There we go, one of the few remaining iconic warbirds. Maybe Zero and/or the actual IL-2 next? IL-2 would be awesome!

[@rring44]

IL-2 vs 110 is fun

[@tonyrun5802]

@Omar Khurshid oh I dunno

[@tonyrun5802]

@@funkyschnitzel ah, damn, would've been cool. Btw hello fellow Tomcat!

[@northroad1]

@Omar Khurshid IL-2 1946. older game but you can fly an entire A6M campaign off of IJN carriers

[@happyduckling02]

Hey man. I wouldn’t be apposed to you doing a bit longer videos. I love the content. Like to grab a glass of brandy and sip it as I watch. Should do a poll to see if people would prefer longer or shorter ones.

[@karim0302]

I'd like to see some longer videos too!

[@i_kazik_i8835]

Ok, that was a nice landing. I'm feeling like you did it for me XD. I'm satisfied with that one:D Especially, as far as I know, 109 is a tricky aircraft to land. Good stuff bro

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Yaaaa been practicing those landings with these ww2 planes I think I might finally be getting the hang of it a little.

[@i_kazik_i8835]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Wow, so you did practise. How proffesional of you:)

[@nicomeier8098]

I always like your vids right at the start. Never been disappointed.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

you're far too kind Nico thank you

[@nicomeier8098]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I'm serious. Your flying skills are excellent, nice planes and battles, good calm voice. Pleasant to see and nice to hear.

[@Ghostrider-gn8ml]

Great vid as always. Makes lot of fun to watch it. If you made the trasition to Germany it would be great to see you in the iconic butcher bird the FW-190.

[@jpgabobo]

Your IL2 content is tops, who would have thought in the 1990's that it would still be the best WW2 sim out there.

[@5000mahmud]

what do you mean this game wasnt out back then

[@1dudecrush]

@@5000mahmud I was gonna say…back in the 90’s I was playing Jane’s WWII Combat Flight Simulator, what was everyone else doing…?

[@mikejohnson555]

I thought the first IL2 came out in 2001? I have been playing IL2 since the early 2000s at least, I wasn't aware of one during the 1990s.

[@jpgabobo]

@@mikejohnson555 You might be right, I have the original CD's, but it seems like ages ago.

[@mikejohnson555]

@@jpgabobo Yeah I know what you mean, still that was by my game back when I was in high school, and it is still impressive that the series continues on to this day, better than it ever was. For 20 years.

[@tenbear5]

Bravo! 👋 I also got my wife through hers, bought her a zx6r (she could barely put a foot down) and headed off to the northern lakes of Italy. Let the good times roll!

[@vladimirvonmongol6368]

8:59 "They can't kill you, if you kill yourself" Man I spilled my beer 😂😂😂😂

[@stephengamble9388]

These vids are good. Just started playing in VR. For me it gives a huge advantage. So much easier.

[@graftonpoland6725]

Thats good to hear. Been thinking hout getting VR for months after starting to fly in DCS

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

8:52 Spit driver: "I'll hit the brakes and he'll fly right by"

[@ericsissenwein3601]

Well I’ve subscribed and watched quite a few of your videos. This one looked like a rout of your British opponents. I thought at first you stumbled upon a training flight but then realized you and the ME-109 were tactically superior and you are a very good pilot. Not to mention a fine shot! Congratulations 🎉

[@UntoldRelic]

These are fascinating and cool videos. It's uncanny valley territory. Over the course of binging a couple dozen videos, I have come away with two takes: 1) regardless of the plane, watching dogfights is fun as hell. 2) I am always happy when an Allied pilot succesfully ejects.

[@w_cgn]

I am a simple man. I see a new video of Growling Sidewinder flying the ME109, I click.

[@Vetospeedo]

Yo bro the amount you are posting lately is awesome!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thanks buddy working hard to keep the content flowing

[@01SOMWS6]

dude, good call on the sale! 85% off the base game, and at least 75% off the add-ons on steam, even! Been waiting for this. Subscribed :)

[@shademastergaming2640]

Really excited for this one and can't wait to get a headset of my own soon so I can experience it like this!

[@CNCTEMATIC]

Very cool. That one shot 20mm kill. I like the WW2 stuff. Seeing as you take requests, I love the Battle of Britain stuff. For me its more immersive, because you know those huge battles actually happened. More Spitfire please.

[@pavleneskovic2362]

Great video. You should try Lavochkin La-5, La-5 FN or La-7. I believe all of them are fitted with 20mm cannons.

[@x-man8889]

Impressive! Looks so easy, when in fact it takes so much skills... Thanks for your videos!

[@man_vs_life]

My daily chill pill. Really enjoying the WW1 & WW2 content.

[@EdMcStinko]

Imagine being one of a handful of Spitfire pilots, who had an entire country relying on you to fight off a constant swarm of 109s, and if you fail life as you know it may very well come to an end. Its difficult for me to grasp.

[@vczs]

From G6 onwards 109 uses Galland Panzer (armored glass behind the seat for better visibility) which is better for such situations, you should try them as well (dunno which models are present in the IL-2)

[@k3zu15]

Great video like always can't wait for more content like this!

[@midniteoyl8913]

8:51 Dude invented the Falling Leaf maneuver

[@frightfulbuffalo7081]

9:04 I'm sure that he was a war thunder player😂

[@eliseivizitiu3979]

100% bro🤣😂🤣

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

innit

[@waltergreif4836]

those Brits look great in the spin cycle!

[@DPPhD]

And that children is how GS beat Erich Rudorffer to destroy the most aircraft on a single mission :-)

[@skareip]

Love the starting and landing sequences btw

[@nicholasrowan387]

I really love the 109 cockpit for some reason

[@kenhelmers2603]

The pilot of many planes, master of most :)

[@andrewbranch4075]

The Hurricane spanked many a cocky 109 pilot and Spits made them look silly as well as our pilots weren't A I. Sorry just had to say that. There's lots of 109s in the Channel and buried in the British countryside to attest to that though 😁✌️

[@lonniebailey4989]

8:53 Spitfire has learned something from the Star Wars series: “I’ll try spinning; that’s a good trick.”

[@goddtzu4008]

I wonder why he didn't recover from this flat spin, he had so much time and it isn't that hard

[@lonniebailey4989]

@@goddtzu4008 maybe the pilot was dead

[@goddtzu4008]

@@lonniebailey4989 but he didn't get shot

[@Tbonyandsteak]

I am Cat person that do Dog figths

[@kazrab8894]

1:03 I know I had a situation once, except I was in the aggressive side, and I pulled the trigger, and the enemy just ZIPPED by, without a pilot

[@Kaiju3301]

I’ve never seen a spitfire go full jazz hands before.

[@half-dead877]

'Luckily we got lucky there." - GS

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

lol

[@nikbear]

Just fantastic to watch 👏

[@nicholasvanwaasdijk]

8:52 ill try spinning thats a good trick

[@MikeIsTooCommonAName]

Yo owe the guy who saved you from that Spitfire a beer. I mean you probably would have gotten away anyways, but it was pretty nice.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ya he came thru for sure, would shake his hand/buy him a beer.

[@asiftalpur3758]

Retracted tail wheel gang 😎 💪

[@burtpanzer]

6:52 Nice shooting... like a 20mm sniper rifle.

[@Jannik_Stein]

When flying in IL2 someone on the radio talks to me all the time

[@getit9066]

Would LOVE to see the Ta-152H-1 in action with GS!

[@rnginu59]

Awesome video thanks!

[@lpaulocp]

Great flight!

[@generalripper7528]

Imagine how stressful this sort of combat must have been. Being in a B-17 and not knowing whether you'll ever see home again. They (bomber crews) had the second highest casualty rate out of all services out of all armies in WWII. The highest casualty rate was among German submariners, my grand-uncle having been one of them, a Lt. on a German U-Boat. Never returned home and he knew that before he left on his first and final combat mission.

[@direktorpresident]

First and final...knew no return...kamikaze, then. The bravery of these young men is beyond modern understanding

[@fraserihle4847]

No one cares about your grand uncle little fella

[@mcarthur1857]

is this PvP dogfight? goo vid!

[@VengeanceMkII]

Give the Fw-190 variants a try :). I'd love to see the D9 too.

[@pillboxbunker6735]

You are a Tornado to those Hurricanes!!! LOL

[@Xenon4d]

Nice that IL-2 actualy is actualy on sale at steam 😄

[@speedy761]

109 f4 i would say was the best model of them all

[@spearshaker7974]

I just heard today the top 3 German aces all flew 109’s and had over 900 take downs between the 3 but also 10% or so died on landing takeoff so it wasn’t so great at that.

[@nighthawk6755]

I’d say at least 80% of the top 100 are 109 pilots

[@asiftalpur3758]

That's largely because US didn't allow aces to be on the front lines and were sent back to train newer pilots. The Germans had no choice, they had to send out whatever they had and had qualitative degradation overtime as they started to loose their aces.

[@hippoace]

One reason the fw190 has wide undercarriage was due to the feedback on the 109 tricky landings.

[@sird4vy501]

Only tough thing is climbing and finding enemies 😔😂 But il2 is really cool when the fight is on

[@Thunderkorn]

Love these WW2 vids

[@darrenjones2933]

I'm digging on the IL-2 stuff. I don't know if there's a Pacific War expansion for IL-2 but I'd sure love to see some Corsair action.

[@HerrWayne45]

My personal faves of the 109s are the E-4 because of the wing guns and the G-6 because of the gun pods what can I say besides that I love me some more dakka.

[@stefanb5189]

4:12 the hurricane istn´t good at not burning, no firewall seperates the fueltank in front of the cockpit from the pilot, and it can just spill underneath the pilot in the fuselage. That guy had wet socks and really really hot knees

[@pspr1977]

Great videos! Love to see them. This one, not a fair fight between a Bf-109G2 and Spitfire Mk.V and Hurricanes... Try some Mk.IX or Tempests... 😏

[@Hshs726sjyz]

He did in a k4

[@haulperrel2547]

You should record your other eye so we can see the sight better.

[@skeeterd5150]

Gs you should do a campaign series on a particular plane. That would be pretty amazing

[@danandbaggyshow]

Actually the hurricane caught fire alot due to the oil cooler below the pilot, during the battle of Britain alot of hurricane pilots were badly burnt.

[@Pablo668]

I watched an interview with an old British BoB fighter pilot. He said that they didn't worry about the Me109's being higher than they were (higher service ceiling) as they felt that if the germans wanted to fight they had to come down to where they were. I guess the fighters were more focused on downing the bombers anyway.

[@MDzmitry]

"Baiting" the germans lower remained a proper strategy even by '43, if memory serves. In James Edgar Johnson's book there is a fight mentioned, where a group of Spitfire Mk.IXs flew underneath a group of Fw.190s (or were it 109s?) waiting for them to attack. And it actually worked out in the end.

[@eliasa.5408]

You know you gotta fly any of the 190s next!!

[@DE-rd1zl]

Man...may have to look at getting this one. I have DCS, but can't play it until I can upgrade my RAM and graphics card...but looking at the specs for IL-2, my pc can run it as is.

[@sethlaporte7140]

Hey great video again GS. I recently got into il2 and I'm wondering if anyone has any tips regarding their preferred control setup or anything they think is helpful to know.

[@forlornfoe]

As a kind of minimal hardware I recommend a joystick with twist axis (rudder) and a head movement tracker: that tracker helps immensely allowing hands to use more controls and less fiddling around trying to spot stuff, especially vital when dogfighting. I use a DelanClip head tracker and freeware tracking software, mid-level price for great performance once you survive the setup process. Graphics settings are fairly easy to experiment with even during flight. Generally V-sync eats some resources but eliminates screen tearing and obviously mirror, shadow and anti-aliasing quality are not essential if your PC is struggling to keep up. Most of the settings offer a small explanation what they do once you hover cursor over them. Camera settings matter quite a lot, experiment to get proper ones for your control setup (and likely tick "head shake" off, easier to at least start without it). I am not a master of the game by any means, simply tutored a few friends into it so feel free to toss questions when they arise and I might be able to assist.

[@sethlaporte7140]

@@forlornfoe thanks. Much appreciated. I've been using my mouse to look around and a cheap thrustmaster joystick for flight control. Also my mouse buttons control rudder. I'll definitely look into head tracking

[@forlornfoe]

@@sethlaporte7140 I too used mouse for looking, took me 8 years to get into head tracking and never looked back. Far as I know, there are three major options for head tracking systems and probably more niche makers I have never heard of. The most popular head tracker is likely TrackIR, which uses its own software. I have heard them working well and being easy to use, with minor hiccups like occasionally not registering a head movement correctly. Generally TrackIR is the most expensive but also easiest to use choice. Then comes DelanClip that relies on freeware software like Opentrack. The setup took me maybe 3 hours to get running properly (mainly Delanclip's camera being picky about USB ports and then Opentrack not finding that camera). After slogging through the setup, that system has worked flawlessly for half a year. Price-wise DelanClip is in the middle. For going very cheap, modified camera and signal sender (just 3 infrared lights on a stick) can be home-made and then simply coined with freeware software. I was too lazy to research this properly and just bought a set.

[@christopherisherwood1328]

You can remove the headrest in the 109s for better vis looking back

[@ViVaDeo]

Great Video... but how do you get only one image on screen... I always habe two eyes mirrored. Regards from Germany

[@tjv-logs]

Schönes video my friend :)

[@noxu4756]

I can't see behind even it's all open, cant turn my neck that much in vr. :D

[@aries-3536]

Brilliant indeed, gets my tick in the box. Might be better for me than DCS to be honest.

[@Karza_357]

You should try the fw190. That thing rips.

[@sharkmjk]

Waiting to order chair, mounts and hotas setup to give this a legit try since mouse and keyboard isn't cutting it for me

[@Outlaw.Dharma]

WTF happened to that Hurricane 8:58 ?!?!

[@rocksteel44]

...I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS BRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[@AnrichMarais]

Love the 109

[@shermansquires3979]

I have 2 questions for a newcomer to IL2. I don't think i have ever seen of or heard of 109s having leading edge slats before, and seconly, are you fighting computer spawned enemy, or other online players? Thanks.

[@pixlpotions]

You should make a new Air Combat Basics video with WW2 planes

[@TRabbit1970]

“Smile for the camera…”

[@thearno2885]

I know it would kill the immersion but would be nice to have some videos with throttle settings etc so us noobs can see what you are doing with engine.

[@forlornfoe]

True that it helps newcomers but thinking of throttle as percentages is not very good in the long run. In the case of Bf109 and Fw190, keep an eye on the a.t.a meter on the right side of gunsight: I think that model's average sustainable a.t.a is up to 1.1, GS was running the engine mainly in combat power (up to 1.3).

[@Pfandflasche]

The german fighters just have the manifold pressure to look at. Not that hard to remember two or three ata-limits.

[@thearno2885]

@@Pfandflasche yes that why it put “etc” in the question , so he could show prop/mix and manifold pressure. But if GS just has combat power all the time then probably no need.

[@palker4]

You could've get that last Hurricane if you did not shoot the flat spinning planes.

[@MGB-learning]

Great video

[@shermansquires3979]

Been watching bith IL2 and DCS, never played either, but IL2 looks better.

[@brbrdeng9122]

The only downside of the bf109, is it's range, it was a formidable dogfighter but in the battle of Britain it only had a 30 minute window for attacking before it had to return back to base

[@leroter5941]

Depends where it fought, it got outflown by spits and hurris as well. So you can't generalize it.

[@brbrdeng9122]

@@leroter5941 In Poland and later Russia it was a absolute beast, but it was somewhat outclassed by Spitfires and Hurricanes by tech and design, but a large factor for the Messerschmitts effectiveness being blunted was by pilot fatigue.

[@JazzJaRa]

@@brbrdeng9122 Even in the late periods of the war the Bf-109 was still a very serios opponent, especially the latest versions. And just as a reminder, the Bf-109 was designed long before the outbreak of World War 2. So it was WAY older and still got a very good reputation.

[@nunucello]

Great video !

[@VikingrBerserker]

I'd love to know what settings you are playing at. Great video as always.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Hi man, I have everything cranked up to full/max.

[@adsfasdf1847]

I just bought it for $8 on steam it’s currently downloading

[@bryanmyers9977]

In DCS how does VR work with respect to the obscure cockpit switches you need to throw? I image you have the headset on, the throttle and stick controls with lots of buttons.. but you can't see these things or the keyboard/mouse and don't have the VR hand controllers in your hand. I imagine you get used to the stick/throttle controls by feel. What about the rest of the cockpit? How do you make that work? Sorry if this is a dumb question- I've used VR only once or twice and don't own one yet.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

DCS has multiple approaches... 1) Just map everything to HOTAS with modifiers 2) Use keyboard blindly (needs practice, obviously, but is possible actually) 3) Have a cursor locked in the center of view and mouse buttons and scroll features mapped to HOTAS or keystrokes 4) Just use the mouse like in pancake 5) Take the VR controller (interact with finger tip while grip is pressed or "laserpointer" + cursor and mouse buttons + scroll wheel mapped to the stick and trigger 6) Get PointCTRL which is a set of tracked rings with a few buttons on it so you don't need to grab anything (basically emulating mouse inputs, but positionally calibrated relative to the headset) I use the VR controllers - I mean I'd have to take a hand off either throttle or stick anyway, the advantage of the controller over a mouse is that you point at things in the cockpit around you, regardless of where you look at (should be visible though so you see what you flip) whereas when using the mouse, the cursor wanders with head movement which basically makes it hard to get muscle memory on it. But many went the PointCTRL way as it's an improvement over grabbing the mouse.

[@sird4vy501]

Can you do tributes to aces? With IL-2 content a bit of history, and gameplay would quite cool, at the end of the day just more gameplay.

[@hippoace]

With its slats, the 109 is pretty good at one circle fights and high AOA moves...

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ya its not gonna beat a spitfire tho

[@52down]

To hell with wahmen when you can love Bf-109!

[@johnmartin7165]

When do we see videos from people that got shot down by GS?

[@Tamburello_1994]

Next time it might be helpful to list the variant since there is a bunch. Looked like a G-6 ? The F-4 is the best of the lot

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

it was in the video thumbnail, g4

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Never even looked at writing in the pic ma bad -- thanks Ace. Try the F-4 with period adversaries. you'll be ruler of all you survey.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

It's the G-4. Short guide: G-2: has retractable tail wheel G-4: tail wheel sticking out (strengthened gear being the main difference, also had a different radio set IIRC) G-6: 13mm guns with bulges right in front of the cockpit G-6 late: Bigger vertical stabilizer and usually the Erla canopy with better rearward visibility (not entirely sure about the canopy in Il-2 GB at the moment since there's many options to mod the airplanes like taking the headrest armor out) G-14: bigger gear bulges on top of the wings due to larger wheels (and MW-50, but you can't see that)

[@Tamburello_1994]

@@CakePrincessCelestia Thanks. I was being lazy as GS pointed out, I took a quik look and guessed. Gustav was good, but I'm a Friedrick kind of fellow.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

@@Tamburello_1994 Fair point - the F-4 is considered the pinnacle by many, except for Galland probably, who preferred his personal F-6 that had the wing cannons added and a cigar holder in the cockpit :D G-2 is closest though, still pretty agile, but faster.

[@kevinstruke1031]

The 109 looks kinda like a mustang and a spitfire made a baby.

[@hippoace]

I thought that would be the Yak

[@hippoace]

@@kevinstruke1031 the yak has the under body radiator like the Mustang