The Mind's Eye (TNG S4E24) | Star Trek Journey 205

[@targetaudience]

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[@DamienDrake2940]

That hallway scene was a fisheye lens. If I remember correctly, it was LeVar's idea to use it and planted the seed for him to start working behind the camera.

[@meganega123]

That's not what the director said. In fact he said Levar wasn't a fan of having the camera so close. But who knows

[@sherrygarcia5708]

How expressive Levar Burton was near the end talking to Troi is impressive.It's much easier to show joy or intense anger even without the eyes visible,but his face he had after he said couldnt remember, you could absolutely feel it. Great job by him.

[@zekehunter2473]

The Klingon Ambassador was played by Larry Dobkin (16 September 1919 - 28 October 2002; age 83) was an Emmy-nominated actor, television director, and occasional writer and producer who directed the Star Trek: The Original Series first season episode "Charlie X", where he was credited as Lawrence Dobkin.

[@TheElderBlotch]

This is Star Trek meets The Manchurian Candidate with a dash of Clockwork Orange. Disturbing, tense and a suspenseful final act worthy of Alfred Hitchcock. S-Tier well deserved!

[@silikon2]

Lol, I literally was planning on mentioning the Clockwork Orange influence.

[@marydodsonmt]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed a similarity to "A Clockwork Orange."

[@nelsonoberg9747]

Only 11 more episodes until Star Trek 6.

[@jonbolton3376]

My favourite Star Trek film, and in my top 20 movies.

[@harrysarai3947]

​@@jonbolton3376, 12 for season 5 Ep 10, the last TNG episode, before DS9 starts.

[@smarimc]

​@@jonbolton3376 same!

[@Isengardtom]

@@jonbolton3376yes

[@targetaudience]

@@harrysarai3947 DS9 starts during season 6 of TNG

[@VonPatzy]

I love how Burton’s monstrosity of a visor actually added to this episode by hiding his eyes/headspace from moment to moment. He could switch from regular Geordi to puppet while we were in the dark.

[@dirtyburd71]

Valcris was the first klingon to say "Qapla!" on screen. She said it to Kruge just before he destroyed the freighter. It means success.

[@mjbull5156]

"Let us not go to Risa. It is a silly place."

[@JaspenKerplunk]

Talking about Vash, "She turned me into a a newt".

[@yehudahecht1520]

Talking about the Enterprise, "It's only a model."

[@urbangrouse]

Thank you! LOL!

[@Vulcanerd]

Bc of the spankings?

[@Vulcanerd]

Because of the spankings? B/c I kinda like that part...

[@token1371]

LeVar Burton provided an outstanding nuance performance. Also Spiner:s Data had impressive acting as an investigator without emotion. Finally, a great use of Troi's skills as a psychologist. *S.*

[@ThomasReeves-s7u]

I think when TNG started Burton was, probably, the biggest name in it for Americans because Roots and Reading Rainbow were pretty huge.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

I think it is clear that the Romulans found out about Geordi's VISOR's capabilities by debriefing Centurion Bochra following the events of TNG Season 3's *The Enemy.* Geordi popped up on the Tal Shiar's radar as a consequence.

[@personzorz]

Got to wonder how he would feel about that.

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

@@personzorz I think he would be horrified. Even the Romulan military dislikes the Tal Shiar.

[@GreatCollapsingHrung]

I know Troi takes a lot of flak, but she seriously has to be one of the greatest counselors ever born. How else would everyone on the enterprise not have crippling PTSD?

[@jonbolton3376]

Never any flack from me, Troi is my favourite character. Admittedly at times i pisstook Marina Sirtis about Troi in person and on Twitter, but only because I know she has a sense of humour, and gives as good as she gets😋

[@ThomasReeves-s7u]

That's a good point. Considering how many of them get kidnapped and/or tortured it's kind of weird so many want to go to Starfleet. At least with the military or the Peace Corps they sometimes sell it as experience that will be useful "in real life" or will help pay for college.

[@Zikar]

@@ThomasReeves-s7u That's just the conciet of a long running episodic show.

[@charlottehammond8975]

​@@jonbolton3376 please explain what pisstoon means. may be my new favorite word

[@vincegamer]

I wouldn't say Troi takes a lot of flack. More the writers get flak for not knowing what to do with her most of the time.

[@CaminoAir]

The final build-up to Geordi's assassination attempt involves characters walking. That sounds unexciting, but it does really work in the episode. Data is purposeful, LeForge is mechanical, Worf is initially uncertain. The actors body lanuage, the camera angles and the music all make it compelling.

[@TheRealVolk]

Kaplah (Qaplah) is Klingon for Success or Victory. Now rewatch that scene and it appears that that each man was wishing victory for different results. Great scene.

[@qam2024]

6:03 testing a weapon right in front of the Warp Core which is full of anti-matter, Safety always comes first in the Federation.

[@liberaldanradio]

To be fair, it was away from the warp core... lol

[@j.rileyindependentproductions]

@@liberaldanradio True, but if it overloaded?

[@Anubis78250]

Oh, come on. It's Star Trek, there's always time to verbally command the computer to erect a level ten force field in section 326 bulkhead 42, then tell your crewmates to take cover before diving behind a console. Perfectly safe!

[@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh]

Good point- I would think they would have some kind of testing area instead of right there in main engineering.

[@Reepicheep-1]

"Should we reuse the Locutus engineering lab set for this?" "No, let's just commit an Interstellar OSHA violation and risk blowing up the ship. Save $26,300 in crew cost."

[@RubesGoodBrainCoffee]

As far as inspiration is concerned, I would point to the film, 'The Manchurian Candidate.'

[@jamesalexander5623]

Absolutely! Geordi why don't you play a game of Solitaire ....

[@jamespungello8361]

@@jamesalexander5623 Geordi LaForge is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

[@karidrgn]

The geordi torture method is shade of A Clockwork Orange. A twisted classic.

[@moonrock41]

In A Clockwork Orange the main character's unconscious mind is manipulated, but Geordi's unconscious and conscious mind is controlled.

[@paul_andrews]

@@moonrock41I think the similarity is using a head restraint and the clamps forcing his eyes to stay open.

[@moonrock41]

@@paul_andrews The eyelid clamps weren't needed with Geordi, since they injected images directly into his brain through his visor ports.

[@matthewcollins4773]

That was indeed Romulan script in Geordi's visor-vision. One of the great things about Trek design is that every race and culture, even the most minor, has distinct script and graphics.

[@omegastar19]

5:30 Love this moment. Picard did the exact right thing, he stood up to the governor, he acted like a Klingon. The governor changes his behaviour towards Picard afterwards, in later scenes he actually listens to what Picard has to say instead of dismissing it outright. Picard earned his respect.

[@Daniel-Strain]

Now they know why we were all warning them about seasons 1-2. But I also love that they gave a lot of us more appreciation for 1-2.

[@Spock4771]

I love how this is like a columbo episode in we know what the mystery is and the fun is watching the crew figuring it out

[@brocktree4]

Glad you guys enjoyed this one. I was nervous that you wouldn't like being ahead of the crew and knowing about Geordi's brainwashing. The episode works around that by not telling us who Geordi is being 'trained' to kill, and by revealing who the inside man was. Vengeance Factor told us who plus practically why and how halfway through the episode. Mind's Eye shows that you can reveal some information without giving away everything to create a still entertaining story. Thanks for the content and get ready for season 5!

[@libertubey2199]

You know, I've always found a Romulan Warbird decloaking far more scary that any Klingon ship doing so. None more scary than this episode where Geordi is in a shuttlecraft. Great episode, very possibly a nod to The Manchurian Candidate. Also, Larry Dobkin (Kell) is actually Lawrence Dobkin. In addition to being an actor, he was also a TV director, helming episodes of The Munsters and a certain episode of TOS. Hint: combine the name of a cartoon mascot for canned fish and the general name of a generation of people born between 1964-1981.

[@Anthyrion]

You can at least kinda talk to a Klingon Commander and most of them are bound to their honor. With a Romulan Commander you have to be extra careful because you never know his true intentions.

[@jonbolton3376]

Romulans are my joint favourite alien species. I won't say the other as Alex and Josh have only met them once so far.

[@Scuzzlebutt142]

I think that may possibly come down to music choices, in that when it's the Klingons, it usually plays there theme, which is kinda militaristic, giving you far more clear music intentions than the Romulans, who are far more subtle. Also the D'Deridex is freaking enormous, so it showing up kind of intimidating.

[@joshcreek9531]

Probably because Warbirds are huge. Relative sizes aren't always clear in the model work for ship exteriors, but you could park a Galaxy, Sovereign or Negh'Var in the negative space in the center of a D'deridex.

[@harrysarai3947]

@@Anthyrion same with Star Fleet Admirals. either they get a desk job, and are forgotten, or turn evil. i personally would be ok with being an ensign. Lower Deck!!! Lower Deck!!! Lower Decks !!!

[@ClamBurger66]

The subtle transformation of the show.

[@mjreid30]

I was afraid there wasn't going to be a Friday episode. Glad it made it before i went to bed. One of my favorite episodes.

[@The_Real_Mr_Al]

Dang, American timezones must be wild, it's already a saturday morning here in Europe =P

[@atrus3823]

This is basically the plot of The Naked Gun.

[@RubesGoodBrainCoffee]

...and so Gordie is Reggie Jackson?

[@pauld6967]

...and the plot of many, many shows before & after ST:TNG.

[@liberaldanradio]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@actor_jim]

I would definitely watch a movie that had Geordi trying to kill the Queen on a baseball field.

[@CaptainJZH]

"I must kill...the Queen..."

[@paul_andrews]

32:45 if Vash hadn't turned up in a later episode, we could've wondered if _Captain's Holiday_ was just a botched Romulan implant too.

[@liberaldanradio]

One of the best books I've read was called The Secret History. They start the book by saying what happened. And the entire story is figuring out why and how. That's kinda what happened here. And that's what makes it so good.

[@moonrock41]

There are several books with this title. Which one are you referring to?

[@HubertMotleyJr]

Yes, I would like to look this up.

[@liberaldanradio]

@@moonrock41 Donna Tartt is the author.

[@qam2024]

With how many times shuttles crash and/or their officers are kidnapped on the way to conferences, you would think the Federation wouldn't let their high ranking officers travel alone across potentially hostile space without es courts, but as we know, security of their ships and its officers apparently just isn't a priority for the Federation for some reason.

[@j.rileyindependentproductions]

To be fair, the shuttle was traveling at impulse and would arrive in 3 hours... This means he was already in the Risa system, ie believed to be safe territory, not at all expected to be hostile. It'd be like the U.S. military not wanting one of their Lt Commanders driving themselves from a military base to Disneyworld for shore leave. Should be expected to be safe from enemy countries interfering.

[@matthewcollins4773]

I always appreciated how well the twist of the villain works. It should be obvious, but it's so great having an amiable older Klingon that you're enjoying his scenes too much; the reveal is an unpleasant surprise. Good stuff!

[@kojiattwood]

Great performance by LeVar Burton

[@5thRace]

Imagine all the screaming Jordi was doing the in the mind control machine was as a result of him being shown an Andoreian waiter that kept getting his order wrong ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

This is actually one of the darker episode, when you think about it. I don't remember off the top of my head if we've seen a crew member being tortured in such horrific fashion before. There's something absolutely terrifying about being FORCED to watch something terrible, and not even having the choice of closing your eyes and looking away. There's an episode of Ghost in the Shell where they're tracking a serial killer, and they find out that one of the things he does before he brutalizes his victims is he hooks up his visual output to them so they're forced to watch, through his eyes, as he mutilates them. Obviously a much gorier version of the same idea, but the same horrifying concept. I remember I passed out when I saw that GITS episode.

[@TimelyAbyss]

There are a few Trek episodes where it’s “Star Trek does…” and for the most part they turn out pretty good. As other people mentioned, this one’s Manchurian Candidate with a little Clockwork Orange for flavor. It’s one of the greatest strengths of Trek where they can do almost any story with any style and pull it off under the Trek banner.

[@bodine57]

The classic example of the audience knowing is "Columbo". In this instance, Data was Columbo, piecing together what we already know. Works when done well.

[@The-Secret-Door]

I liked how we saw Geordie was showed in reflections in mirrors and other surfaces in a lot of shots. Like, he's Geordie but not Geordie might've been the symbolism. Cool, anyway. It was also neat to see Worf's Discommodation mentioned again to remind us.

[@hagbardceline7118]

So behind the scenes it's been said David Livingston was a pretty hard headed producer and then as soon as he was in the director's role he would butt heads with the producers, he felt that was the job he was assigned either way and that's a neat way to look at it if anything.

[@VonPatzy]

Geordi finally had a successful date with a real girl! Oh wait.

[@kalamari8243]

39 episodes of TNG and one Movie until the Pilot Episode of Deep Space 9!

[@LukeWarm05]

Golly...I wonder who the Romulan woman in the shadows could be! 🤯 Will the TA boys ever learn the answer?!

[@ThatJunkman]

They didn’t seem to care

[@Reepicheep-1]

They will.

[@Scuzzlebutt142]

@@Reepicheep-1 They have, if you're on Patreon they've already watched Redemption part 1

[@jamesalexander5623]

Perhaps .... Sooner than Later!

[@Geellun]

…have a way of showing up when you least expect them…

[@HubertMotleyJr]

I just realized on your rewatch. The Troi/Geordie scene when she's playfully trying to get the deets on his time in Risa clearly showed that shes not a mind reader. She gets surface thoughts, intentions and emotions. The Romulan programming slipped past her perception check. Its only afterwards,when she's focusing on the known variable that she could begin to work out Geordie's headspace.

[@benlinus1310]

Carbon Units are required to like and subscribe.

[@personzorz]

We must record the behavior of the carbon units infesting KZbin.

[@benlinus1310]

@personzorz Resisting the Algorithm is futile

[@Reepicheep-1]

The Carbon Units will not comply.

[@curtisberard7831]

Don't forget the "ugly bags of mostly water"

[@benlinus1310]

@@Reepicheep-1 This is Illogical. Carbon units will comply.

[@EvanG529]

Can't believe this is the first episode with those federation phaser rifles... and they're not even the genuine article.

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

Wow, and they dont show up again until Descent a full 2 seasons later.

[@EvanG529]

@@ThatSlowTypingGuy I guess that's not really a spoiler but be careful mentioning future episodes.

[@clearsmashdrop5829]

For me there is three times this episode hits the mark. 1. Geordie playing games on a shuttlecraft as it adds detail to the world. 2. Data ordering Wolf to take Geordie into custody and when Worf basically says "say again"...Data add that is an order. Adds so much realism to the situation. 3. Georgie and Deanna working on what happened. We see Geordies pain and Deanna is doing her job well.

[@thewitchiebunny]

I feel like you can really see where LeVar Burton tapped his performance in Roots for the torture scenes - same vibes, same agony and suffering. He's a superb actor, as is Brent Spiner.

[@mindlessmeat4055]

There are a few more episodes that do continue this romulan plot. They are pretty good.

[@jamesalexander5623]

I have no idea why the next Episode exists .... Where it does!

[@helloweener2007]

Captain's Holiday gave them a trauma. ^^

[@Isengardtom]

And tbh that’s probably the only decent Risa episode in all of Star Trek

[@JuanSanson73]

Love the pace you are reviewing these shows, the issue with many other reviews is that it takes forever to go through seasons of a show, not with you guys, and i love that you do it in release order,

[@JuanSanson73]

The nice thing about next Generation for the most part at this stage of the show is that even the so so episodes are enjoyable to watch, there is always a nugget of something to like

[@itequipment8251]

Poor Geordi he thought he had got lucky but it was just a false memory.

[@matthewcollins4773]

Even worse, the Andorian waiter wasn't real too.

[@rlickers1946]

Must have been the memories of the fake Geordi. Guy can't win.

[@kerry-j4m]

I've had dates like that too,it's called a nightmare. LOL.

[@scgreek1114]

"The Manchurian Candidate," TNG style.

[@kathyastrom1315]

With a Klingon Angela Lansbury!

[@CrimsonRevenant666]

One of my favorite episodes.

[@mindlessmeat4055]

I love detective things, movies and books and such, most have you learning as the detective does. Similar to this episode, Columbo has you watching as he figures out the mystery that you already know. I like Columbo.

[@ronhubbardjr2624]

Everything about this episode is great.

[@traverserred]

Seeing geordi shooting O’brian is pretty disturbing even though it was just a hologram

[@Reepicheep-1]

O'Brien must suffer.

[@paul_andrews]

Holo'brien lol

[@Lumibear.]

I love how much you guys enjoy these, warms my soul. Well, when they’re a good one!

[@SanjayMerchant]

So, every time I see this episode (bearing in mind I've seen it dozens of times) there is a part of me that wants a silly joke where the Romulans abduct him and right after he's gone the computer says time's up on the trivia question it had asked. It'd be dumb and tonally completely inappropriate, but part of me still wants that to have happened.

[@togroglog2457]

"Captain's log, stardate four BEEP!" That was epic timing.

[@MichaelLesesne]

I can't wait for y'all to get to my favorite episode of all time: Season 5, Episode 18.

[@Isengardtom]

Love that one

[@silikon2]

Let’s test this weapon in main engineering! At least this time they have it pointed away from the warp core. 😊

[@patsk8872]

And when it's off let's idly stand in front of it!

[@BintyMcFrazzles]

Good episodes. One of those episodes to show people that Star Trek isn't a kids TV show. Don't worry about Geordi, he'll be okay by the next episode........ 🤣

[@pauld6967]

I was about to call it a night since it was 0015 here on the East Coast when the episode showed up with much to do Saturday morning but I had to see how you two enjoyed the episode. I still expect the fake out .... that it will be revealed that there is no third planet, oops, no new filming location. (Alex, that was a reference to Commodore Decker in _'The Doomsday Machine'_ - we know how you are with names & episodes. 😉)

[@philly83]

One of the early scripts for yesterday's enterprise had the vulcans and romulans rejoining and conquering the Klingons then turn on the federation but the war was with the Klingons in that timeline

[@philly83]

That wasn't Geordi at Risa, that was his stunt double

[@pinsentweebly]

This is a favourite of the season for me. Love this one.

[@thebigboo5]

I remember HATING this episode the first time I watched it. I think I was waaaaaaay too young for it! Watching it many years later, I was able to appreciate the episodes darkness. Now, having watched tons of Trek, it's wonderful to see a really great (and, you know, terrible for him) Geordi episode. I knew you two would love this one, I thought an easy S, same for me (now I'm old enough lol). Everyone's acting was great in this one, LeVar got to really show off for a change and the writing and production was perfect. It's been mentioned below already but yeah, I've read somewhere that this "Geordi" episode got LeVar in to the Director role. As ever, thanks guys, great reaction!

[@airmaildolphin7013]

When you think about it, the idea of secretly supplying rebels with Starfleet phasers would be pretty stupid. They HAVE replicators so they could make any kind of weapon including Klingon disruptors to give to the rebels.

[@ThomasReeves-s7u]

Are the replicators allowed to replicate weapons? It feels like allowing that could be a problem.

[@airmaildolphin7013]

@@ThomasReeves-s7u I think there are safeguards from preventing ANYONE to replicate a weapon, but if Starfleet could easily get around it. Look at the 'Self Replicating Mines' used in Deep Space Nine.

[@curtisberard7831]

The Klingons are likely VERY thorough with their searches. Just imagine a full body cavity search by them.

[@greenbrown7776]

Strong A for me. I really dig the Worf/Romulan/Klingon arc in TNG.

[@rscottdjr]

I enjoyed the Geordi vs. Geordi aspect. He would perform an act under the influence and then try to figure who did it. I did find some fault in that when asked for an Alibi, Geordi did not have one and everyone, including the Klingons, just shrug their shoulders and move on. Great episode though.

[@rscottdjr]

I also meant to mention that ST:TNG seems to consistently hint that the Romulans are a little bit ahead technologically. In this case, the charge of the phaser rifle was significantly more efficient than Federation standards.

[@jasoncaldwell5627]

I feel like that Klingons Ambassador was about to get "questioned" to death.

[@Vulcanerd]

I'm surprised we didn't get Alex yelling, "SHOOT HIM!!!" 🤣

[@headrockbeats]

While I'm not quite as keen on this episode as you are, I certainly consider it a must-watch as part of the TNG arc. Despite all of the Worf discommendation plot in this season and previous, I think this was the point where TNG suddenly revealed that it was leaning into becoming serialized. No spoilers today. No need, since you are both about to be redeemed.

[@donovanbradford8231]

I love that we know it's the Romulans doing this now the question is how do our heros save the day. Burton's acting is great in this and this is also one of those times we get to see Data take command and see he is no one to mess with. Story is great, acting top notch, basically everything you could want in a great episode.

[@j.rileyindependentproductions]

So many things you would never realize that you've triggered fans wanting to say [REDACTED]. And tell you how your random statement about [REDACTED] becomes [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED][REDACTED][REDACTED] with a [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] on [REDACTED].

[@ldifalco2010]

The Romulans continue to be the best bad guys of TNG!

[@bobmathis-friedman6742]

This reminds me of the film The Manchurian Candidate (both versions), which I LOVE!

[@vohbovohborian28]

Yesterday's Enterprise features a war with the Klingons, Romulans are not involved in this. The only Romulan involvement is that they attacked a Klingon outpost 20 years ago, which is where the Enterprise C intervened and died honorably, thereby preventing the war with the Klingons.

[@fakecubed]

Of course it's not a one-off, it's a continuation of all the other Klingon episodes you've seen before. That's why they referenced all the stuff with Worf and Duras and Picard helping find the new leader of the Klingon Empire, and of course you remember the Romulans being involved with the Duras family. Certainly seems like an escalation. Would this be the final episode in this arc? Probably not.

[@cbinette100]

This is what we call a galaxy building episode. In a vacuum with no other context this episode is just ok. When added to the deeper start trek TNG universe this is everything we need.

[@charlottehammond8975]

yet another great LetsTortureGeordi episode

[@paul_andrews]

26:55 an old joke: Three students at the CIA Academy were about to graduate. The instructor called them into a room and said to the first one, “Take this gun and go into the next room. Assassinate whomever you find there.” The man took the gun and went into the next room, where he found his mother. Returning to the instructor, he threw down the gun and quit, saying, “I can’t do this.” The next student went into the room and saw her boyfriend. She hesitated a moment, then she, too, resigned. The third student took the gun and went into the room. The instructor heard six rapid shots, followed by screams, thuds, crashes, then silence. Then the door opened and out came the third agent all bloody, and his shirt in shreds. He said to the instructor, “You idiot, you gave me blanks! I had to beat my wife to death with a chair!”

[@jdb101585]

Someone is looking adorably baby-faced! ;D

[@jdb101585]

(You look *really* good, dude!)

[@jdb101585]

...and those arms and thighs and boxers tease...huh. 😅

[@damienkakoschke3099]

OMG! This is a bit of a deep dive. Hadn't seen this episode in ages. The actor playing the Romulan in charge of Geordie's conditioning is an actor who the4y bring back a lot in assorted prosthetics throughout this era, but i think he comes back as this character years from now in a late season of DS9 (that or he's playing another Romulan intelligence officer). Wow. this is a great episode, A & B intwined so well as so captivating that they're both A plots. The episode ends with "Lots of therapy for you Geordie." - Klingon culture & Picard, he said best in one of the prev episodes "You may test that assumption at your convenience", in modern culture, we call that FIFO! LOLs.

[@Xallisto1]

S ranks galore in season 4 from you guys lol :P

[@BeachcomberNZ]

Interesting time for this to drop - approx 6.15pm, Saturday, New Zealand time.

[@pauld6967]

Ah, it was 0015 on the East Coast of the U.S. I was about to call it a night but I had to see how the guys enjoyed the episode.

[@harrysarai3947]

time zones are a thing.

[@StonedVet81]

The "Main" Romulan is a re-occurring actor in Trek. Keep an eye out for him

[@josephram1843]

Over the years there will be episodes and stories that just stick with you that are iconic of the series. "Best of Both Worlds", "Measure of a Man", "Drumhead" (a few to come in season 5!) are examples that are truly S tier. There are lots more A's and B's that are good to great like "Mind's Eye" that are fun to rewatch but don't stay with you in the same way. I guess retrospectively you'll get what I'm saying and your S tier will be more refined.

[@deathbysnoosnoo8640]

I believe it's called a fish eye lense, but I'm not sure

[@albertmartinez2539]

Picard's Klingon swear is essentially, "I have a thousand things on my plate," which is a way of saying, "I don't have time for your shit!"

[@josephram1843]

There will be a big reveal of the "shadowy romulan" to come. I didn't know they forshadowed it in this episode until now.

[@greenbrown7776]

I don't understand the need of so many commenters to say this. That in itself is a spoiler. Call it Spoiler Lite. Thank goodness there's a good likelihood that they've already seen the episode you've just referenced.

[@seanbumstead1250]

I give it a C+

[@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276]

Those romulan shoulder pad jackets are called Breadboxes.

[@itubeutubewealltube1]

tos enterprise incident... the klingons and romulans were exchanging technology.... thats how klingons got the cloaking technology...

[@kalofkrypton]

So close to the ACTUAL best Star Trek film!

[@hagbardceline7118]

All of your speculation is just giving me a big Riker Style shit eating grin. All I'll say is you're gonna enjoy ds9 quite a bit

[@Semaj4747]

The writers always had an unwritten rule that the Romulan Empire was always smaller, with fewer resources, than the Klingons and the Feds. Given how closely tied the Feds and Klingons are thanks to seeing it in The Defector, their alliance threatens their smaller Empire. I’ve said this in many comment sections before, but this Fed and Klingon alliance is vital. The Organian people might have some insight into things… This episode is a bit of foreshadowing for many future events. I wonder who that shadow person was? 🤔

[@richardkinzett3424]

The writer knows the MK Ultra programme / Surhan Surhan story.

[@Aqweius]

That Shadowy Romulin will have reveal soon enough 🤫🤔 I’m surprised you didn’t find the voice familiar.

[@victorjohnson7512]

I like this episode, but Geordie's phaser blasts a hole in the ceiling at the end and nobody even mentioned it.