The Misdirection Of God Of War - God Of War (2018) Review

[@underthemayo]

I appreciate you stating "The combat is just flat out better in the old games," without having to state "in my opinion" or whatever. It's still shocking to me how people underrate those original games when the combat in the new GOW is so much mashier than the originals. And that point about how combat encounters open is so f*ing important. Because of the way runic cooldowns are set up, every fight's opening strategy is just activate runic attacks and atreus power and shock arrows, and half the fight is already over. Just kill the stragglers. It suuuuucks. Love the point on active versus passive combat design. GOW 2018's rpg mechanics take a series that rewarded you for playing better, and turned it into a game where you don't actually need to play better you just need better gear and you can keep playing badly.

[@garsedj]

@Cameron Hawthorn Devil may cry 5 gameplay evolved, god of war 4 didn't, it just changed in a downgraded form.

[@garsedj]

@Cameron Hawthorn No man, you're just wrong. It's okay to like simplistic games made for casual audience, but don't deny the truth.

[@garsedj]

@Cameron Hawthorn a subjective opinion is saying it's better or worse, an objective opinion is they removed a lot of stuff to fit their narrative approach.

[@garsedj]

@Cameron Hawthorn That's what i said, you know? They factually made the game less complex. You like walky talky game, try guardians of the galaxy, lots of walky talky, you'll love it.

[@kuroryudairyu4567]

@Cameron Hawthorn hahahaha hahaha hahahahahaha hahahaha hahaha

[@kataimason3230]

This needs more likes. You summed it up perfectly. Sadly the people that supported the new God Of War are not beat em up gamers.

[@abirahmed8015]

What's your favourite games?? Tell us some names...

[@kataimason3230]

@abirahmed8015 I grew up playing games like devil may cray all of them, first three Prince of Persia games, TeKken, metal gear games, and elder scrolls games.

[@abirahmed8015]

@@kataimason3230 Now I understand why you don't like new god of war game...Devil may cry 5 gameplay was shit for me...After beat that game, I never show interest to replay dmc 5...Dmc has tons of combos but only combos doesn't make a game good..Specially the ants like enemies of dmc are garbage.. Some enemies are good but some are shit...Overall the dmc gameplay was shit....On the other hand I agree og gow triology was best in gow series but that doesn't mean new gow is bad...gow 2k18 and ragnarok gameplay is good..

[@glowinTHX]

@@kataimason3230 excellent taste, friend. That's what I'm talking about, those games are still impressing on this day

[@kataimason3230]

@abirahmed8015 I understand you....we just have different taste In games. I grew kinda bitter towards the new god of war games because honestly it was not what I was used to. But that doesn't mean others can't enjoy it. It's not for me n over the years I grew to find peace in that

[@Ma1q444]

I’m still mad how they did TC Carson.

[@Takaroku.]

Just tossed him aside, pure pieces of shiet.

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

They didn’t even bother to give him a call.

[@Ma1q444]

@@Myth_or_Mystery76 horrible scumbags

[@John01ization]

Facts, karma will catch up with them.

[@gamemaster2192]

@@Myth_or_Mystery76 thats mess up

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

*picks “Give me God of War”* Loading God of War 2….. Me: “Now this is what I wanted!”

[@pblreza]

Yes the og God of war games are the best

[@jayDee92133]

I wouldn't go that far but they do still hold up pretty good.

[@lightmohamed5700]

@@jayDee92133 they are better than most

[@cvzanikos1]

The first God of war still has the best story. you could just end the story there and it would be perfect

[@lightmohamed5700]

@@cvzanikos1 GoW1 story is just flashbacks it’s too small to be the story of Greek mythology or a dark odyssey. Everything comes full circle in later games

[@christianhenry4173]

Here's my honest take Gow 2 Gow 3 Gow Ragnarok Gow 1. Gow 2018. Those are my top 5 but you can rearrange them. I personally liked Ragnarok over 2018

[@necrosteel5013]

Games being "cinematic" Is such an insulting and derogatory statement regarding what gaming should be. It's akin to say imitating hollywood make a story deep and serious for some screwed up reason. Yes i Unironically would call the new GOW as the god of us 4: neil duckman edition. Sure it's alright, but it's presented in a cliche way, it feels cliche to play and has a shoved in RPG system ( a major red flag in any action game). Idiots can call it a DMC clone all they wantwant, but that foundation was always better than what current day dogwater AAA action actually is.

[@eponymous3784]

Its like calling a movie "book-like" as a point of praise because it consists mostly of text scrolling across the screen (with horrific prose writing)

[@chris_player2995]

i'd take DMC clone anyday over Naughty Dog presents : god of war

[@Modeloman8]

Mayo sent me here ... loved this break down . So many games want the "cinematic experience"... makes me not want to play .I want a game ! ... RE3 was so heartbreaking

[@paulcourtemanche3549]

I feel like the success of the masterpiece the Witcher 3 has hurt the overall games industry. More studios are trying to make something like it than innovate and do something new and better which is stifling the industry as a whole. Ubigreed is especially guilty of this.

[@rawmaw]

Yeah, absolutely! Poopisoft just keeps spewing out games like that

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

Because studio’s think copying a few superficial elements will make their game a hit, without ever understanding what really made the game good.

[@tahabmw195]

everything is rpg now days

[@dotcomgamingd5564]

hell yeah a 90 minute video, just what I needed today

[@bigmoe9856]

Sigrun is a good boss and final conclusion to the Valkary in Normal. The problem is is give me God of War Mode which takes away some your counter interactions (like throwing the Leviathan Axe to disrupt many of her aireal shenanigans) in a game that is all about Defensive Counter play instead of Aggressive Active Play.

[@ap4702]

The disappointing part of this is that you must connect with the father and son relationship narrative to be able to enjoy the game fully, as every other aspect hinges on it that central theme. I didn't really care for Atreus. I found his appearance and general personality just bland and Kratos was very reserved the whole game even at crucial moments.

[@skyyswaggstudios2934]

I found him annoying and I didn’t care much for him, which really hurt my playthrough because by the halfway point I didn’t care for the gameplay and then I didn’t care about the story in a story based game

[@GeteMachine]

The thing I hate even about that story, among Atreus being annoying, and obnoxious, I just hate how unoriginal this dumb story is because its been just another trend a dev team thought they needed to cash in on. It doesn't feel like you're playing God of War until the final boss.

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

It's almost like not all stories are made for everyone

[@hermonymusofsparta]

It feels like God of War 2018 is ashamed to be a video game. I'm 10 hours in and bored. I just want to finish the main story and never play it again. It's not even a great story.

[@zacatkinson3926]

it has no story

[@padzman91]

it has no story... wow. Imagine being so delusional

[@zacatkinson3926]

@@padzman91 it has no story it’s a long fetch quest

[@zacatkinson3926]

it has no story

[@Idk98268]

@@eponymous3784wtf are you yapping about

[@ThatSamoanGuy]

Holy shit man, I could tell this must have been a real passion project for you. I'll throw a like and a subscribe just for the dedication and detailed breakdown. More power to ya dood!

[@OrphanSocks12]

watch jospeh anderson if you want an actual good review and critque of this game

[@perseastheodoropoulos7367]

@@OrphanSocks12 why this one is amazing

[@magicjohnson3121]

Watch Joseph Anderson if you want to cringe.

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

@@OrphanSocks12 More like a review that agrees with your opinion, correct?

[@younessdahou3007]

Baldur wasnt hostile towards kratos because he knew he was kratos He tought he was a giant baldur was sent searching for the last giant in midgard faye

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

Yes

[@tasnimbari4012]

Actually, baldur was there to find Faye, the last jotnor giant. But he ended up finding kratos and confusing him for a giant

[@christianhenry4173]

​@@tasnimbari4012it's stupid because they left missing plots about Faye. She was worse in Ragnarok

[@JoeyDerpFace]

1:22:45 “Kratos becomes the god of hope” Devs saw the video were like “write that down and put it in the DLC for Ragnarok!!!” Man understands kratos more than the devs LOL

[@th3seek3r60]

the DEVS lost their balls

[@theemotionalremix]

Blame Sweet Baby Inc for that one. Everything they touch turns to turd. 💩

[@dimeterchevaeros8480]

41:30 Let's be honest here. We all miss the sex Mini-games.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

Yeah, despite how dirty that sounds.. we all misses them, the north mythology doesn't have that shit

[@dimeterchevaeros8480]

@@Omega-jg4oq there's nothing dirty about being a man bro, eventually it's who these games were made for

[@BoredomandVanity]

@@dimeterchevaeros8480 exactly. I’m tired of women entering male spaces and subverting the highly held opinions and judging the story in a feminist view lens. Like lady, this game wasn’t made for you. There’s a term why they do this too. It’s been studied and applied.

[@dimeterchevaeros8480]

@@BoredomandVanity yeah, right? Imagine going in their spaces and doing the same. It’s like trying to get involved in something like Sex and the city and expect it to be more targeted towards men. Imagine the outrage. I guess they just know that their properties are basically trash, so that’s why they have to suck the fun out of ours. Sigmund Freud called this: Penis Envy

[@ye87]

@@Omega-jg4oq🤔did you just say that as if sex wasn’t a big part of every religion back then if it was realistic for the Greeks and sexuality Kratos and most other men would be gay

[@YEY0806]

About the story, one of my biggest criticisms is Baldur who is both a terrible antagonist AND as a reflection of past Kratos. Throughout the game the writers try really hard to make Kratos relate to Baldur such as the final fight but it is laughable as Kratos in the past games had definable character traits such as being ambitious, patriotic of Sparta, respectful of women and children and loyal and caring towards his allies (Orkus) and family (Deimos). Then after the tragedy of his family Kratos settled in his worst tendencies of being alcoholic and sleeping with women in order to forget his nightmares while doing everything to seek REDEMPTION not Revenge. Baldur on the other hand gets barely any characterisation beyond being a manchild who was both hedonistic and spiteful, which by the way is ONLY what the writers present of his backstory that is meant to make him come off as sympathetic but is utterly laughable. Seriously there is more time taken to characterise Thor and Odin a.k.a the two barely present in the game. There is less attention given to Baldur the games main antagonist who largely becomes forgettable and no longer intimidating as Kratos has put him in his place through every encounter. Also Baldur unlike Kratos comes off AS a one dimensional brute who's only character trait is his tragedy of "not feeling pain" as beyond that there is nothing more to him, he also commits stupid mistakes constantly and only succeds when the plot bends backwards to make Kratos and Atrues completely stupid like that section on top of the midgard mountain. It's soo funny and ironic that people see Kratos in Baldur who comes off as the parody of the character that people THINK Kratos was in the previous games.

[@anujsreenivasan5040]

And then you realize that Thor was the reflection of kratos (not a good one, but still) and baldur was just a way to tell that kratos has a chance to stop someone from following his path.

[@christian751]

For the mystic gateways I find standing still and waiting for a door much faster than running around.

[@samsonlawal1600]

I enjoy the game for the most part, especially the lore but I will say that I'm a big fan of action games and it sucks that they over-prioritized story rather than gameplay. The camera becomes an issue very quickly when you're playing on harder difficulty and surrounded by enemies. I constantly find myself frantically running so that I can view all enemies at once. It's even more annoying having to fight a teleporting enemy with the restricted camera. On my first playthrough, I was never incentivized to play well until I saw GBG's combos. Therefore, it would be cool if they expand the combo options in the next game and add a combo meter. It's way more satisfying pulling off cool combos rather than effortlessly throwing your axe at enemies and spamming Atreus's arrows.

[@king_isshiki]

N word.

[@rbelljr29]

My biggest issue with the game, is the level system not being tied to gameplay, but armor level. In a game like sekiro, bloodborne, dmc5, or the original gow games, your skill at playing the game IS the difficulty level...in 2018, it doesn't matter how good you are, a lvl 5 base dragur, vs you at armor lvl 1, you're getting one shot. Period. I also think the enemies themselves were the difficulty level in the og gow games. Saytrs, Medusas, cerberus'....aren't on the same level as a base legionare.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

It's crazy Kratos the god of war needs Armor and leveling up to protect himself and survive, even the god armor in God of war 2 was to represent that he is a God now and it's immediately got broken after the first boss in the beginning of the game, this new game is just big joke excuse

[@Ma1q444]

The game doesn’t even feel like your playing as kratos

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@Ma1q444 it's not even the same Kratos nor the voice actor, it's retired old man that can't even single jump, at least they could have shown that he is still violent just a bit and he still acts like a Spartan Kratos and he is trying to change, this game is more like non canon reboot than a Sequel

[@Ma1q444]

@@Omega-jg4oq facts

[@YEY0806]

@Omega the issue is that they skipped writing a potentially interesting Redemption story but instead simply skipped that journey so that Kratos in the game is just a boring stoic side kick who follows the whims of Atreus.

[@fancyAlex1993]

1.09:49 i TOTALLY AGREE, it ruined GOW 3 ending. The fan theory of Kratos being dragged to a different universe which was the NORSE universe would have salvaged the story but they decided to take a really silly route of explaining that Greece was just a part of the world.

[@garsedj]

God of war 4 is really hard to like because it feels desperate. It's desperate to prove it "grew up" so it has a sad kratos who's a passive protagonist in his own story It's desperate to be taken seriously so it has the last of us camera and walking sections It's desperate to feel modern to it integrates wonky elements of RPG and open world It's desperate to appeal to their own grown up audience so kratos is a dad now.

[@kuroryudairyu4567]

Maybe one of the best comments I've EVER seen 💛

[@garsedj]

@@kuroryudairyu4567 Thanks ^^

[@legendarymarston9174]

In trying to be "mature" it just comes off as childish

[@garsedj]

@@legendarymarston9174 remember dmc reboot? at least this one was fun

[@legendarymarston9174]

@@garsedj And dumb in its unique way 😂

[@dandyman2182]

Such an underrated video couldn't agree more what gets me honestly is how even people like maximilian dood whos played god of war 3 and praises the dmc games for their gameplay said god of war 2018 was flawless and above a 10/10 at the end of his playthrough cx

[@rawmaw]

Yeah, Maximilian ain't exactly the most reliable guy out there on the Internet either lol

[@aureum7479]

So ? because he enjoyed the Gameplay of God of War 3 that means he can’t praise the Gameplay in God of war 4 ? That doesn’t make any sense, idk why you have to separate Gameplay styles and assume which is right or wrong. Just because Santa Monica chose a different perspective of the Gameplay doesn’t mean it is bad, it’s just worse to you.

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

Max only takes fighting games seriously, and is a huge Capcom fanboy, so he really doesn’t have the perspective to comment how things have changed.

[@cookingwithkratos]

@@aureum7479 u people slow. Did u not read his comment???? He said the guy gave gow2018 a 10/10 so WTF r u typing about kid

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

I'm a fan of the old GoW and dmc, I wouldn't call this game a 10/10 but i certainly loved the story and the gameplay was ok. Solid 7-8/10

[@cruelcumber5317]

On the combat review section and wondering why people seem to be under the impression that it's deeper than old GoW, as someone who gets really into JRPG combat mechanics I have a bit of a theory. Basically, I often get the feeling that people judge how complex a combat system is based on the aesthetic elements (for lack of a better term) than how the actual core mechanics work together. To put it another way, people see GoW 2018's combat as more complex because it has multiple cooldown timers, enemies have break bars, gaining new moves is done through a skill tree like UI rather than getting a chunk of moves when upgrading the weapon directly, slower is synonymous with more strategic for a lot of people, etc. A lot of things that create the appearance of more depth when it's really stuff that's basically the same but presented differently (like break bars and the skill tree) or something that doesn't add all that much depth, but results in more stuff on screen (like cooldowns).

[@jandoor2068]

TOTALLY agree. God Of War 2018 was a huge steaming pile of donkey shit..... with very pretty graphics. Sony needs to realise we want GAMES not endless cutscenes with simplistic, dumbed down gameplay every so often. Sony has not released a decent games in years now, yet because their games are very polished, people lap them up. I'll stick with the PROPER God Of War games and avoid Sony first party releases until they release games that are NOT movies. :(

[@xenogen372]

Problem is, Sony isn't making games for us anymore. They're making games for people who don't play video games and found games of the 6th and 7th generations childish and juvenile.

[@AbirZenith]

Amazing content, the amount of effort that went into this is commendable .

[@nigelblythe6627]

21:27 The dude just runs into a bunch of enemies and dies, having 1 runic attack ready. 21:43 "I mastered it and it's combat" Master of standing and throwing axe, right? 22:01 Blocks an unblockable attack. Do I need to watch further?

[@UnderTheBun]

You're literally just on a "first impressions" section. At least watch the breakdown of combat. I finished the game on Give Me God Of War, including all the valkyries (which I mention/show in the video). You can't beat Sigrun on GMGOW without understanding the game's mechanics. You're getting mad without even watching my entire argument.

[@nigelblythe6627]

@@UnderTheBun Sorry for being a dick, yes. But I actually watched it further and I shouldn't have to. This is just Under the Mayo copypasta, and his points are so bad. I never played a single TLoU game, I beat all the GoW games on the hardest mode so I know what I am talking about. The new game's combat is more deep. Many people just don't understand it, they don't understand why the camera was made this way, they don't grasp the runic attacks and their cooldown. The only issue is balance while using certain items like the talisman that recharges all the runics. And I'm not telling that the combat in the older games is bad or button mashy, it's just that the new one is an evolution of what was before. So calling it a misdirection bothers me.

[@elpeluca7780]

You got punked

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

@@UnderTheBun fair enough but I suggest showing better clips of you actually being good at the game when you say you've mastered the combat

[@tex3420]

Imagine if DMC6 came out and it was over the shoulder, slow turning, no air combat, half weapon amount for switching and combos and that's basically what happened to god of war. Saying these games are the same is a straight up lie and the older games will always be better

[@thewanderingartists]

Is Under the Mayo your brother ? 😁

[@UnderTheBun]

It's a really crazy coincidence that we have similar opinions about similar games lol

[@DanielFahimi]

@@UnderTheBun And a similar username.......................... Awfully suspicious!

[@UnderTheBun]

@@DanielFahimi purely coincidental. Though Mayo and I are cool with eachother.

[@SteVen-eg4sq]

Yeah, I wasn't really a big fan of this game. It's the only game in the series that I couldn't be bothered to replay.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

Bruh, I wouldn't even bother myself to buy it, because it's not Gow game

[@SteVen-eg4sq]

@@Omega-jg4oq Yeah, well, I thought I'd feel this way about it but I decided to give it a chance anyway. Should just trust my gut feeling on these things.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@SteVen-eg4sq no matter if you find it good or bad, it's will never be even close to the old games

[@ernestofelix6734]

@@Omega-jg4oq THANK YOUUUU, YOU ARE RIGHT MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@ernestofelix6734 are you here after Ragnarok brother? cause the entire game is basically walking and talking sequence and even the camera doesn't show what's happening but only the characters and camera for the player is just awful

[@AIAffiliator88]

Kratos isn't top g in this game let's just say that. The single dad narrative make him look like a beta male. Plus I'm not religious at all, god or no God makes no sense to me as a gun blazing COD player

[@michaeljason2593]

The biggest problem I had with this game was trying to make Kratos human again instead of keeping him dead and his journey be stories and legends for the Vikings that appeared on the Earth or use a Frost giant who has heard of Kratos and his violent tendencies against the gods of Greece. You know make a new IP and not make God of War something it's not.

[@ArmaBiologica35]

I think the video game industry has a pretty big misconception about what a video game story should be. And a game like this is a reflection of that. Video game stories are not dumb and one dimensional because the developers couldn´t do better and players would have not cared anyway. Video game stories are self-aware, regardless if they are dumb and one dimensional or not, which gives them the luxury of doing whatever they want without feeling embarrassed. PS2 God of War was self-aware. Devil May Cry 5 is self-aware. Dad of Boy isn't. The fact that they want to advertize this as a mature, complex, intelligent and emotional work of high art that will make you cry and makes every other game you´ve experience feel like garbage when at the end of the day what Sony cares about is to make sure each game they put out sells a billion copies by making them check every box in a list of market trends feels extremely pretentious and patronizing by comparison.

[@YEY0806]

I find it really disingenuous that people throw the title "Masterpiece" all over the place that it simply means "game that is decent and I like." Like this game, which wants to be taken seriously of being art, while still being made as a PRODUCT first to get all the money possible. Let's face it if the Last Of Us was not as successful, then GOW2018 would be very DIFFERENT.

[@warrenharshaw7677]

I don't get why Atreus wasn't trained as a spartan with a spear and shield. He can still have the bow because I am sure that they trained with a bow. But it was a missed opportunity for Kratos to show his greek culture and how it clashes with the norse culture. And no, I don't mean that Kratos trains Atreus as brutally and ruthlessly as he was trained because that is his son. There are other lessons and techniques from the Spartans to be learned.

[@Mysteriouscloakhood]

I love the old god of war games the god of war 2018 is a cheap knockoff of the last of us

[@IronWarriorBarrak]

Nice raycevik reference at the start, also great video, editing, script and points

[@shintenku]

The old God Of War games are effing epic and phenomenal , From music , To the brutal fast gameplay , Amazing Greek settings , Great stories of fallen characters and a wronged spartan warrior who is robbed of his humanity , To his redemption , I love the addicting fun fast paced gameplay , And to see how the series transformed from a badass brutal franchise to a series for fragile people and last of us junkies in 2018 pains me so much , Been with the franchise since the 2005 and I loved all of the amazing classic GOW games , RIP GOW , It was an amazing run ,,, 🤦‍♂️😔

[@Omega-jg4oq]

Same bro, it's such disappointing and depressing that this is what we get after so many years, I rather accept Gow3 as the end of Gow and Kratos died at the end, because Kratos doesn't feel like Kratos, he looks someone is Cosplaying as him

[@shintenku]

@@Omega-jg4oq Facts , God Of War hasn’t been the same after 3 , I really miss the old classic GOW games , Luckily I have the entire franchise on my PS3 via HD collections , I would love to get the saga collection of all classic GOW games on PS4 enhanced , I’ll buy that ASAP , It’s clear as day light that these so called fans who praise this new garbage of Dad Of Bore never played the old games , We don’t get games like the old God Of War games anymore sadly , People need to play the old franchise .

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@shintenku you are lucky to have PS3 or even PS4, I wanted to play at Gow3 and Ascension for very long time but I couldn't, at least I got PS2 and PSP and Pc.. What? I live in very average country but it's not only matter of time until everything will change, and yeah I'm afraid that the next games will be the same thing generic open world boring walking simlature game, it's called God of war but there is no war, just fight some random enemies and bosses like WTF?!

[@shintenku]

@@Omega-jg4oq Yup for real , There is no war in this Dad Of Bore game , Everything that made God Of War so iconic and special is completely gone here , It’s sad when a shitty bootleg clone of Last Of Us get so much praise even after dumbing down everything , It’s clear as daylight that whoever praise this crap is not a fan of God Of War , They are fans of the last of us , And it’s alright , Not everyone can afford a PS3 or a PS4 , But when you do get a PS3 I highly recommend “ God Of War Saga “ a one disc collection with all God Of War games , Even the excellent PSP games .

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@shintenku there is a disc collection?? Thanks for letting me know I appreciate it bro and I won't forget about it, I mean Gow2018 and ragnarok you can already see and know just by the way it's looks and how everything is going that the developers just wanna be so lazy and so stupid to the point they expect you to be okay with everything they do and that's what the casual fanboys do, it's depressing that this is it, the future Gow games will be rpg open boring world and it's not only with Gow, there is so many games that dissappointed me so bad and it's always the new games, the old games always stays legendary, now every company can milk the casuals and the fanboys and get a lot of money with less efforts and with shit lazy bad game because they are so greedy

[@Ma1q444]

It’s funny how they all talk of movie script as if that’s a good thing in a GAME.

[@S8n9]

I'm a fan of the Original God of War Games as i played them all. For me the reboot of God of War on Norse Saga with the crap story and Gameplay Settings have ruined the Legacy Of GOW as the game is not anymore about God of War and Kratos. It feels they are just Milking now the God of War and Kratos names.

[@mochathought]

Overall a good video you earned a new sub

[@UnderTheBun]

Thank you!

[@broFH]

I will never buy this "Kratos viking" crap to begin with. I mean, how is it possible to change the core aspect of a game so much and still keep the same name? The franchise ended after the third, and there's nothing wrong with that, because it was perfect the way it was.

[@chadgrimes252]

Exactly the OG Kratos and OG God Of War is GOATED and will always be better than the boring bullshit current direction

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

What I hate most is what it did to the franchise. Not the game itself. On a side note, anyone notice how dead Corey looks later on?

[@Omega-jg4oq]

totally, I can't believe he would just go change it after all the fun and creativity they've putted in the old games

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

@@Omega-jg4oq The combat was the focus. Now, it's the story only. The game is at odds with what it should be, and what it was.

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@Myth_or_Mystery76 Bruh old games focused on everything, if the story in the old games wasn't good enough, Gow wouldn't be popular as it is now and Gow 4 wouldn't be a thing

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

@@Omega-jg4oq The combat being the focus doesn't mean that was the only feature worth talking about. I mean what do you do in those old games? Fight. What do you do in the new game? Talk, row boats, and distract the player from how bad the combat is. I never claimed the story wasn't good.

[@georgios712kon]

the only good thing I found in this game...is that it made realise how much I had underastimated the old GOW games. I expect ragnarok to double down on anything this game did wrong and poorly. It's sad how so many people believed this game's insulting markting too.

[@J.Wolf90]

Old God of War makes these new games look like fucking chick flicks.

[@god-of-war-fan]

@@J.Wolf90 delusional

[@thedarkdojo5115]

@@god-of-war-fan No u

[@god-of-war-fan]

@@thedarkdojo5115 you're actually deluded asf if you think a game where you rip apart valkyries from wing to wing, split orcs skulls and literally tear apart your enemies is a 'chick flick'. stop embarrassing yourself with your shitty nostalgia. the old god of war games were godly, and the new game is godly as well.

[@BoredomandVanity]

@@god-of-war-fan nah u man.

[@jojowor]

Man if they did use the old gow music when he got the blades of chaos that would've been epic but that opportunity was wasted just disappointing

[@oimickey6110]

Wow man, the music change at 1:25:52 with the blades would have been fucking legendary! Had to rewind that part several times.

[@cookingwithkratos]

Tyr is alive sir

[@UnderTheBun]

At the time this game released, it was implied Tyr was dead. Someone at Santa Monica must have thought that was stupid, so he's now not actually dead and will be in Ragnarok.

[@cookingwithkratos]

@@UnderTheBun well in our defence. *the following contains ragnarok spoilers* *"I warned you... You would not listen."* tyr is dead... We just go back in time to a time when he is alive and well. Im tired of keeping this gotdamn games plot a secrect. Enuff already. This kid i knew for over 3 years only wanted to play ragnarok in 2022. Thats all he wanted. He didnt wanna facetime some bs celebrity who dont know shit about the real world we people live in, while they post their bs (make a wish) caption and comment all while plugging their new album, movie, show, or book. He only prayed the game would come out before his time. He even told me he would settle for a another trailer. That's all the kid wanted to see man. Needles to say... 🙏 😢 🙏 And for this im omg 😠 im so upset over this. Words cant explain how mad i am at this moment. Yet here we are. Rolling into june 2022 and still No news *Absolutely Nothing.* Only Just a bunch of fanboys and shills who keep saying "tAlE aLL tHe tiMe y0u nEeD" 😠 i fkn hate people man.

[@bluefortytwo]

This was the most thorough, spot-on review I've seen for a game. I'm a huge fan of the series and also had the same issues with 2018 that you stated. My main complaints with GOW 2018 were: 1. Combat: The axe combat just doesn't feel anywhere near as fun and fluid as the blades or even sub weapons in past games. And I'm simply not a fan of the many RPG elements introduced in 2018. 2. Story: I miss the epic storytelling of the previous games. I had the same issues with the slow opening. For Ragnarok give the fans the classic GOW opening act that starts with a bang. I also found Atreus annoying and didn't feel sympathetic for him at any point in the game. The overall story just lacked the punch and grandiosity of the older games that I found so much more entertaining. It's clear the impact that TLOU had on this game. Let Naughty Dog carry that torch but I want to see SMS return to what they do best. 3. Camera: either bring back the fixed camera or something more along the lines of DMC5. I did not like the TLOU-style camera. I still think 2018 was a good game, but in my opinion it was the weakest in the series. It's hard for me to rank the franchise but my favorites are: GOW1: story and favorite overall GOW2: world GOW3: gameplay and bosses Looking forward to Ragnarok fixing some of the gripes with 2018 shared by many of us longtime fans of the series.

[@UnderTheBun]

Thank you for watching! I'm excited to see where Ragnarok goes as well. Hopefully it has some improvements to the formula.

[@AIAffiliator88]

Wukong definitely beats this game

[@fwamable394]

To quote Cory Barlog him self, "jumping is overrated"

[@fatmanzeitgeist816]

Was waiting to hear your take. Haven't played this one and haven't played the originals in years though I remember finding them a bit monotonous. Very well written and edited probably your best work so far. I jokingly said in the beginning that I should take a shot every time he says "Old God Of War." I glad I didn't so I could he alive to type this review lol great work

[@UnderTheBun]

Thanks for watching man! I have the bad habit of saying certain phrases too much haha. I've noticed I say "as well" a lot too.

[@fatmanzeitgeist816]

@@UnderTheBun no worries dude every person who makes videos does it lol it's habitual

[@debashisprasadjena5075]

Now that it is revealed that Tyr is alive I can say that you are not happy.

[@guilhermep.1311]

That's why I'll never play god of war 4. I don't want to spoil my fond memories of GOW2

[@hrast4109]

great video man :)

[@rawmaw]

Great video!

[@dhauz___7855]

I'm a big Last Of Us fan, and I hate this game. The gameplay is boring, combat clunky.

[@CurbStompa]

Haven't watched the video yet but god I hate the combat in this game 🤦🏾‍♂️. The camera is way too close, enemies with near INSTANTANEOUS attack speed will eat your health bar on GMGOW difficulty because you couldn't fucking see them. And then I-frames are terrible too, enemies will just tank your special attack and start wailing on you, but since you're locked in some long ass animation with no way to clip/cancel AND have no invincibility frames... you're fucked.

[@123VRa]

new combat is more tactical, old one was more button smashing. i enjoyed the new one definitly more

[@perseastheodoropoulos7367]

@@123VRa thats a flat out lie unless you are playin on the easiest difficulty

[@onceyougozach2607]

@@123VRa spam square to son stun, r2 heavy attack. God of War 2018

[@moth5799]

@@123VRa empty all your runic attacks, use talisman of unbound potential, empty all runic attacks again, congrats you've cleared every standard encounter in the game. "tactical". there are some good bosses, first baldur is really cool, same for magni and modi and sigrun, but the combat is not tactical most of the time.

[@padzman91]

it's almost like Kratos only has two eyes in front of him and can't see everything like GOW 1-3.

[@TheCyclicGamer]

Classic God of War: "You should play God of War because it was will get you laid." New God of War: "You should play God of War because you never got laid."

[@joedatius]

bro back when that shit came out it was the cringiest shit ever. the entire marketing for classic god of war was edgy trash that made the game look bad

[@thedarkdojo5115]

@@joedatius As far as I know... The cringiest ish ever said is now: "What are we hunting?" "You are hunting deer" "Where do we go?" "In the direction of deer"

[@joedatius]

@@thedarkdojo5115 in what world is that even cringe? "i don't like this dialogue so its cringe" fucking morons lmao

[@kingofeverything8833]

U said everything I wanted to say. So here you go

[@bigmoe9856]

For why Baldur is only hunting Kratos and Atreus _now._ Technically he's hunting Fae, the wife/mother who was interfering with Odins' plans. Until now, she had a barrier placed around their home which prevented anyone from finding them-but with a caveat. The barrier was built on the trees she marked. The trees she requested Kratos to cut down and make her Pyre with. Knowing that this would inevitably reveal him and Atreus to the Norse Pantheon and force them into moving.

[@elpeluca7780]

Why would she ask the to cut the trees then?

[@bigmoe9856]

@@elpeluca7780 So that they would be forced to go the journey that she prophecized.

[@calvinripley9093]

OMFG why dosent this have like 3M views or something, bruh.... KZbin is bad

[@mitchie2267]

It feels like what 343 did with Halo 4.

[@Denneska]

They emasculated Kratos. They did not like him and did their best to make him "politically correct", woke.

[@Eincrou]

I have a long way to go in this video, but I wanted to pause because it's already remarkable that the reviewer and I have similar thoughts. I recently got GoW (2018) and have about 20 hours, so far. This is the first GoW game I've played (I've played character action games inspired by it, so I have an idea of how the original games felt), but I've noticed the same thing as the reviewer who is a long-time fan and had just played half a dozen games in the series. At some point in my playthrough, I came to believe that the game known as GoW (2018) should have been its own new franchise instead of redefining the God of War series. The overbearing & deconstructionist narrative and slow, methodical combat are totally alien to 2000s-era character action games. Complete speculation since I know nothing about the development of this game, but I suspect this game was made to intentionally deconstruct a violent, masculine & "badass" character... and also the people who enjoy that kind of entertainment. Like the Disney live action remakes of classic cartoons, God of War was meant to fix the "errors" of the original and be a "superior" replacement. As the vintage footage of the original developers shows, GoW was made by young men. The new games were made by a diverse team of various cultures, religious views and gender identities. (To paraphrase Ubisoft's standard disclaimer.) Games like the original GoW will no longer be made by modern Western AAA studios.

[@smellyeggrolls21]

The one thing i despise about this game and its sequel is any climbing section, they are actual snooze fests. I know its important for a first time playthrough, as thats where dome of the story is displayed. But on replays of the game, maybe do what ragnarok did and just teplave the climbing sections with much faster traversal

[@chris_player2995]

they tried to hide loading screens like Uncharted did in 2007

[@Ma1q444]

This needs more views

[@thiagobravo]

It always bothered how Kratos felt so weak in GOW 2018. The man is a wimp.

[@fab137]

1:04:55 not sure how you feel about this point now, but in Ragnarok, a plot element like this would've made Atreus an exponentially more interesting character, he's too boring in the second one for someone called "Loki"

[@josesosa3337]

Looking at this from afar, one aspect I don't like is enemies that can one hit kill you or do serious damage without the right gear. That is forcing you to play and look a certian way! I wasn't feeling that. I want to get into god of war(the series) but I am probably not gonna play this.

[@elpeluca7780]

Definitely play the ogs (even the psp ones, chains of Olympus has the most powerful ending of the franchise)

[@chris_player2995]

play the ps2 games , the psp games (they are all available on PS3) and GOW3 (PS3 / PS4)

[@SnowCrust]

u hit the nail in the coffin. this game should be rename they just kept name likeness because it's popular, it has nothing to do with previous gow. this game is boring wayy too long, if u missed side missions u surely cant deal with the bosses until u upgrade. just plain boring

[@Omega-jg4oq]

Gow ragnarok would be the same or even more than the last one

[@thewanderingartists]

Gow 3 is the greatest of them all ! I still have it, I sold Gow 2018 in a month 😆

[@UnderTheBun]

Nice Lelouch pfp

[@Omega-jg4oq]

I won't even bother to buy it in the first place

[@thewanderingartists]

@@Omega-jg4oq I got that free with buying a PS4 :P

[@justblaze.]

Coming from someone who played all the games but over a long period of time I remember loving this game when I first played it from the hype and the hack and slash aspects it was cool but when I thought about the game compared to all the others I felt cheated and then I thought about the downfall of videos games as a whole it’s depressing really

[@padzman91]

you just grew up like everyone else. What gave you the most joy in old games back when we were teens, is hard to replicate in our old age(30+ :p). Maybe I'm just assuming your age or gaming history, but I find people I talk to IRL who dislike the game, to be in the older demographic

[@xtrwq]

@@padzman91 Actually, the old games are more fun. It's not about things getting less enjoyable with age. There's a world of difference between playing a good game and these boring movie games. There still are a lot of people who primarily play old games and enjoy them a lot. Too many new games are only hype.

[@kuroryudairyu4567]

Absolutely agree with you

[@lostalx]

Fantastic content, really passionate towards old God of War and that brutal power fantasy. Unfortunately all of that is gone and they butchered it hard. Kratos just became a weak man now, in Ragnarok they emasculated him even further and butchered Nordic mythos hardcore. The franchise is just dead. God of War III remains the absolute peak forever and as time goes as well because it's a timeless game. Also you mentioned DMC 5 that's how a game should provide fans what they deserve and what their characters need not this mess.

[@padzman91]

32:08, this is IMO disingenuous. GOW can be as SIMPLE or COMPLEX AS YOU WANT. You can breeze through GOW 1-3 just using Square spam, or you can do all the other extra stuff and have fun with your combos. GOW4 is much the same, albeit slower. It can be as SIMPLE or COMPLEX as you want. Edit: watched a bit more, and I agree that Runic Attacks are a problem to gameplay. Combat starts as (Runic > Unbound Potential > Runics > Attacks > Repeat). Maybe in Ragnarok, remove it entirely. IMO, if they make a combo meter and once you reach a threshold, THEN you can use Runics. ALSO, remove Unbound Potential. I didn't even use it in GMGOW, I much enjoyed the TimeStop Dodge one, as it incentivizes me to dodge perfectly. Edit2: Not sure, but the fast travel time is probably because game takes that long to "load" the map. they tried to alleviate the boredom somewhat via Mimir's stories. But once again, if you don't enjoy the Story or enthralled to hear the worldbuilding aspect, this WILL be boring to people

[@YEY0806]

Then you never played the previous games clearly, as anyone who played the games will tell you that the square square triangle and square spam combo is a very ineffective damaging combo even on normal and the harder difficulties. The combo does not work on every enemy, and it is a death sentence to use on specific encounters that require different approaches and it doesn't guarantee you a lot of health to be left with or exp to be earned in combat. The combos are more used as a punt that allows you OPTIONS for follow-ups for big damage, increase in hit counter, and keeping enemy airborne.

[@didibus]

Maybe it's because I played Demons Soul's just before, but to me, I see God of War 2018 as taking Souls games influence in their gameplay, where-as the old God of War had DMC influence. Then it just depends which type of gameplay you prefer, but it makes sense that 2018 is based on Souls since that's what's hot and cool right now, where-as before it was DMC and Bayonetta that was all the rage.

[@leonardfabian8942]

They didn't fix the camera in ragnarok sadge.

[@cookingwithkratos]

If your fav is Gow3 then your gonna love Eric Williams directorial debut. Eric is responsible for Poseidon, Hercules and Hades boss fights. 🎰🎰🎰

[@JuleZz__z]

Ragnarok is even worse its a disney movie now, constant moral bs about tOxic masculinity & empathy in a fkn god of WAR story, og kratos knew in order to beat these psychotic & corrupted gods who conspired against him he needed to be savage af & not hold back just like in real life wars.

[@philip47478]

Really nice review overall. However i do have to say one thing. Gow 2018 is NOT an open world. Yes you have more freedom to explore than the previews games, there are more open section and branching paths, but overall is still a linear game. The game greatly limits and controls when and how you can explore certain areas. At best, i could say it's a semi-open world-ish game, but it's nowhere at the same level as Red Dead 2, Skyrim, Botw, Fallout, Gta etc.

[@elpeluca7780]

I assume you mean Red Dead 3

[@trumpflavourednugget9325]

@@elpeluca7780 ofc he meant a game that doesn't exist, duh

[@MrUploader14]

My feelings towards GOW 2018 is that it feels like it is ashamed of the prior games and the fact it is a videogame. The originals felt distinct, the combos were better offering rewards for players that played well. If they were going to make another GOW game they should have iterated on what was already there.

[@eumesm9770]

01:28:19 Yeah, i agree. 01:00:39 Atreus has a condition because he is a god! And that drags on the story even more. 10:01 19:43 The new games are totally cinematic. 15:05 Because they wanted to surf in the fame of the the title based on the previous games, that's the reason why. The next game will be the last one! We are never going to enjoy the norse mythology based on the GoW universe ever again! Probably they will ruin the next game based in the egyptian mythology as well. 01:09:51 Tyr could travel in between the pantheons. 01:07:42 Maybe the persian gods could transport the persian army too as well.

[@Ghost-vd5mc]

I agree with you 1000%…The thing I hated most tho is the new camera angle.That shit is entirely too close and annoying.Atleast give us the choice to pan the camera back a little.The Valkyrie fights on god mode was 🔥🔥tho

[@thewanderingartists]

How do you feel about Ragnarok reveal ? 😂😂

[@UnderTheBun]

Disappointed for sure lol. Just posted a vid talking about it.

[@thewanderingartists]

@@UnderTheBun Imma hop onto it !!

[@keanureeves9802]

Trash. They’ll bite some more from the last of us 2 and get praises for it I hate Santa Monica now their some copycats.

[@keanureeves9802]

@Cameron Hawthorn first they copied devil may cry’s gameplay in the first few GOWs releases. Now they copied naughty dogs gameplay. Their KNOWN for copying whatever games that are selling the most.

[@JustGonnaChangeToWhatsNew]

if you do new game + and god of war mode despite the armor you have you can get one to two shot BY THE FIRST ENEMY and you don't even insta kill them with the buffs

[@anujsreenivasan5040]

Bruh why do you care so much about gore?

[@mochathought]

Their should be a ability to replay boss fights in the menu, change my mind

[@HussCraft]

played all 3 of the originals but still not played this one, after watching this review I have to give it a go atleast

[@josesosa3337]

What did you use to edit with?

[@UnderTheBun]

For this video? Footage was captured with a Startech USB3HDCAP (HDMI) into OBS. The editing was done with Filmora Wondershare. But the God Of War 1 footage, it was captured using a different capture device. It was a component input one, so not quite HDMI. I don't remember the brand off hand.

[@BoredomandVanity]

It’s still puzzling me on how this game won GOTY but not Red Dead 2?

[@StevoStaple]

IKR

[@YEY0806]

FACTS, RD2 was the most ambitious game to come out with the next level immersion, great characters, fun gameplay, and felt actually NEXT GEN 👌

[@abirahmed8015]

Rdr2 has a mediocre gameplay buddy....It is a horse riding movie simulator..

[@ISAACHALLEY3000]

the other day i was playing god of war 2018 on NG+ and got so boring, i just left in the middle of the fight XD they need to bring back the brutal and badass hack n slash

[@nicolascastillo6319]

theres no tooth fairy and theres no new GOW

[@creeperYT9824]

I loved gow 2018 but I love gow 2 and gow 3 more, 2 is my most favourite

[@blacxice]

This game sucks Sony triple a crap behind the shoulder shooter for a beaten up…. And this game is a sequence of chamber to chamber of killing enemies trashhhhh

[@debashisprasadjena5075]

Your name is surprisingly similar to someone else's KZbin account name.🤔🤔

[@cvzanikos1]

Calling Not of war a masterpiece is like loving beef jerky when you’ve never tried steak. I fucking love steak. I’m stuck at 20:25 and I hate this bland boring game. Kratos murdered the entire Greek pantheon and now I have to worry about armor stats. 🤦‍♂️

[@andrewvillers6447]

Just a minor nitpick with your calling GoW 2018 GOW4. There are other games that could claim the GOW4 title. In my opinion it should be GoW: Ascension. I could also claim Ghost of Sparta, but I’ll go with Ascension because of console release.

[@hermonymusofsparta]

Those other games were not main titles. They were prequels and side stories. GoW 2018 has the best claim to number four and should have been called that.

[@elpeluca7780]

That makes no sense cause they were prequels, not sequels. It's insulting that this shitass game is gow 4, but it is

[@cookingwithkratos]

Dude u didnt listen to any of the story!! Balder came now bc kratos cut the last tree down that faye atreus mother had marked. Once he cut the last tree down the protection stave broke around their woods. Also sir balder magni and modi wasnt looking for kratos they were looking for atreus, *the last giant* which is why balder tried taking him to Asgard. Another thing, the reason why atreus/loki acted like a complete jerk is bc he is half good and half evil aka loki. You kno its clear u dont have kids. Come back and play this when u have one. Until then keep playing gow 1 2 and 3. 🤷

[@UnderTheBun]

Having kids shouldn't be a prerequisite to enjoying a story.

[@cookingwithkratos]

@@UnderTheBun how is it that out of EVERYTHING i stated, you only addressed the kids part if my statements

[@UnderTheBun]

@@cookingwithkratos none of that is explained in the actual game, or at least explained well. Regardless, there is much worse in the story than those couple things, which I address in my video. Also Atreus being Loki doesnt explain the whiplash we get in his character development. It was poorly done. Loki also isnt "half good half evil", he's a trickster who ultimately causes Ragnarok. I've read books about Norse mythology, I have a general understanding of Loki. Atreus is just an annoying kid. A Loki move would be revealing himself in the next game as Loki, not Atreus, and betraying Kratos. Basically the whole time he was a kid was an act, so that Kratos would get close to him and Loki could trick him for maximum harm. All of that time Kratos cared for Atreus would be a lie fabricated by Loki to fuck with him.

[@frvo]

I am a fan of The Last of Us, still hate this God of War.

[@chris_player2995]

same , I like the game / story / gameplay from the last of us still this game bored me , at least TLOU started off strong with Joel's daughter and the outbreak but this starts off with Kratos carrying a tree...

[@frvo]

@@chris_player2995 haha! True. I also HATE the new idiotic combat system of 2018. What a disappointment.

[@glowinTHX]

Finally, I got to play GOW at an amazing quality and framerate on PC (The game is really well optimized) and I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. Point to consider 1. I'm not fanboying for any company, except maybe Obsidian and old Bioware. 2 I'm used to playing on difficult and I like a well-balanced challenge. 3. I got the game for around $16 on Steam. Here's what I didn't like: 1. I can't stop rolling my eyes every time Atreus speaks. The kid's annoying af... 2. I can't believe they decided to go with an American accent. Everything sounds out of place. The expression they use don't match the theme of the game at all. 3. I hated how the game takes you for an idiot. The menu tutorials gave me the impression that it was meant for slow people. 4. Commentary during combat, gets annoying, again this is Atreus. The issue could have been solved by ditching the over the shoulder camera during combat, similar to other games. You can't never know what's happening behind you without the boy yelling at you or the attack detection arrows. 5. On the hard difficulty enemies are sponges, that's it. 6. last but not least... Kratos is beta now... He's disrespected by everyone. The nail on the coffin was when he was sent to cut flowers... This is not the Kratos I remember during the PSP era. Don't get me wrong, the game is really well done, art direction is ok and combat is great, but the direction they took screams "below average casual"

[@uusrikas]

Enemy pointing arrow can at least be turned of bad man god of war is 100 times the game compared to that

[@glowinTHX]

@@uusrikas yeah, Kratos used to be the ultimate bad ass

[@uusrikas]

@@glowinTHX i agree its children's game at best before 18 +