The Misogyny In Mass Telugu Cinema | Video Essay by Sagar Tetali

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Ай бұрын

The Telugu Film Industry still makes some of the best mainstream blockbusters but its regressive gender politics is quite apparent. Where do the gender dynamics of Telugu cinema emerge from? Join us as we try to unpack.
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@cineenthusiast1234
@cineenthusiast1234 Ай бұрын
Why so much hate in the comment section ? These are facts about telugu cinema, if these things are not eradicated from cinemas, irrespective of the box office success, telugu cinema will be considered as a failure
@jayakishore565
@jayakishore565 Ай бұрын
I see mostly agreeing to the video . Iam from telugu cinema . One side Iam proud of TFI . I agree to this video and change has to come . We are against to people who just bashes telugu film industry with out proper knowledge
@novkalp21185
@novkalp21185 Ай бұрын
I agree with you
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
Shut it.
@jarvis3630
@jarvis3630 Ай бұрын
@@jayakishore565 here u r again😂...pls explain that " proper knowledge" we will definitely like to know about that " knowledge"
@jarvis3630
@jarvis3630 Ай бұрын
Btw telugu cinema can't be termed as a failure..the pan Indian phenomenon which changed the schematics of different industries took place post bahubali... telugu cinema has the highest no of theatres and is a huge revenue generator...it's never a failure.. but it has flaws that's it ... telugu industry has shown that Indian cinema is not about Bollywood... I would say I like to see more ground breaking stuffs from telugu without this misogyny...and they r capable of that...but their r some dum*b fans who won't understand it
@nidmoses4600
@nidmoses4600 Ай бұрын
As much as I want to say follow the money, the lack of responsibility in the portrayal of women has to be a reflection of the makers. Just saying. These are not teenage boys but fully grown men and grandfathers who choose to make them.
@user-mr8qs6bo6h
@user-mr8qs6bo6h Ай бұрын
Indeed
@tejaa07
@tejaa07 Ай бұрын
True and I wonder why the women still agree to play such roles.. they can avoid..
@tokathu
@tokathu Ай бұрын
@@tejaa07because they wanted to survive in this industry .. thinking that one day , the might make it big .. bankable women superstars suck as Samantha and nayantara.. next it’s rashmika mandanna..
@tejaa07
@tejaa07 Ай бұрын
@@tokathu This is not the only industry they have. By the way, they are not native Telugu people either. There's some wonderful and sensible work being done in Malayalam and Tamil. Literally, there's nothing for actresses in the Telugu industry. They just come here for money and sideline their self-respect and morality for it.
@tokathu
@tokathu Ай бұрын
@@tejaa07 Eventhough that’s the case .. there are some really good projects in telugu as well .. there are actresses who does really amazing job and still manages to get paid more than the Malayalam industry.. Aishwarya Lekshmi for ammu, Samyukta for virupaksha ( it’s not a meaty side role compared to other telugu cinemas ), nazariya from antesundaranikki, there are examples … Samyuktha didn’t leave Malayalam industry just because she couldn’t act.. she didn’t have memorable experience from Malayalam industry .. their industry , and the content , no matter how good they are .. people behind the scenes , aren’t so comfortable to work with .. she isn’t the only actress who said this.. there are quite several actresses who chose to be in other language industries , due to the indifferent ( sometimes extreme ) attitude towards women .. wouldn’t blame them ..
@jacksonaniyan6144
@jacksonaniyan6144 Ай бұрын
navel show is a must in telugu cinemas...female lead saree navel is a must in telugu cinema...recently chiranjeevi,mahesh babu movie had these cringe scene...at a time when time telugu industry is getting oscars industry is still showing such scenes
@KotthavariNag
@KotthavariNag Ай бұрын
What about recent Tamil movie Rashi Khanna, Tamanna did😂😂
@dhaneeshas4997
@dhaneeshas4997 Ай бұрын
​​@@KotthavariNagits ok to be in some films..mostly it is reduced in tamil cinema...even nowadays tamil movies used to have only 2 to 3 songs only...sundar c is a kind of director who add these stuffs for promotion purpose...other than that, item song culture became ver very less in tamil
@kriz2281
@kriz2281 Ай бұрын
​@@KotthavariNag it's sunder c masala film.... Just look mainstream tamil commercial films.....even item dance is not scene in tamil films....tamil industry improved a lot
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
@@kriz2281 yeah 70s old man dancing kavaali da with 20s fair grl.👏 He's not an mainstream actor ri8.
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
@@dhaneeshas4997 All the clips he showed were 10/12 yr back. Recently released he only managed to show 2 movies clips which clearly means he was not able to find more. So there is some change it might not be in large scale.
@govardhanposina17
@govardhanposina17 Ай бұрын
That ending anecodote about the scene from Napeleon truly brings this full circle
@user-vb9jy8bl3r
@user-vb9jy8bl3r Ай бұрын
Not really. She cheats on napoleon.
@parinikasharma317
@parinikasharma317 28 күн бұрын
That doesn't make domestic violence okay. Nothing does
@RinatRocks
@RinatRocks 27 күн бұрын
@@parinikasharma317 it's OK as long as it's used to discipline.... like parents beat children sometimes without being considered domestic violence
@parinikasharma317
@parinikasharma317 27 күн бұрын
@RinatRocks well personally I think even parents shouldn't hit children. It screws us up and frankly if you can't raise a child without hitting the problem lies with you. But that is a different argument. There is a world of difference between parent-child relationship and spousal relationship. Spouses are equal in status and have no right to "discipline" each other
@RinatRocks
@RinatRocks 27 күн бұрын
@@parinikasharma317 no one is really equal... 1 person always assumes more of a leader role....2 different persons cannot be absolutely equal....usually this is men but it can be women as well... I am also not in favor of hitting the children but rarely we have to do it... purpose shouldn't be to hurt them or fuel your ego.... it should be the last resort.... When it comes to spouses yes it shouldn't be a normal thing of course.... but it's dangerous to judge a man coz he Beat his wife once In a bluemoon.... God has given higher physical strength to men for a reason....
@wishvakrish3583
@wishvakrish3583 Ай бұрын
It is just not about telugu cinema, its heavility rooted in our society too.
@THUGPUTIN
@THUGPUTIN Ай бұрын
Why blame men of such society issues... Women have only been taking advantage of this... A man who makes 50k per month will marry girl who makes lower income but a girl who makes 50k won't consider a man who makes lower in majority.... Have you ever visited police station in India? When it's man, he's guilty until proven innocent but for women, it's innocent until proven guilty.. Indian society is problematic for both sides... Not just man.. When given opportunity women have taken advantage of it for selfish reason rather than collective reason for growth... Indian men and women in majority are toxic towards collective growth of both.... Regardless of gender, they like to have control over others...
@user-mr8qs6bo6h
@user-mr8qs6bo6h Ай бұрын
Not in Marathi, or Bengali films, not so much in north eastern movie. So it wud be whataboutary to defend this excess in Telugu and Tamil films
@thejaswitharajesh
@thejaswitharajesh Ай бұрын
But it's celebrated in telugu cinema
@eaglemgtow2789
@eaglemgtow2789 22 күн бұрын
​​@@thejaswitharajesh Male beating in the name of Women empowerment Is also Rampant in your movies.
@Tarun.m.kumar6
@Tarun.m.kumar6 Ай бұрын
At last, some facts. I am a telugu guy and I have found this kind of problematic in almost all the Telugu films, where woman are put to humiliation and Objectification. Mass cinema has ridiculed women like nothing else. You can hardly count movies in which women have agency and are treated as human. Atleast new age directors are taking up charge and trying to change the narrative.
@drodro7672
@drodro7672 Ай бұрын
What is incredible about Telugu cinema is that their standard of movies are not compatible with "orthodox" or "sanskari" household norms (not communities based), which inhibit a considerable section of Andhraite society. How such vulgar cinema emerged without any problems there ? In Tamil Nadu, state political class elite are kind of promoting unorthodox (still, it's not community based) thinking and way of life. In Maharashtra, the section of society that is conservative is also vocal. A lot of boycotting and harassing happened there. But how Andhra without iconoclastic elite as well with relatively conservative people, achieved to produce such contents ? Sorry for the possible "generalisation" or "misunderstanding", not personally from Andhra. But, I mean, no one in regular middle and popular class in Andhra Pradesh or generally in South India, live likes the protagonists of Telugu movies, or have possibilities for (social norms and taboos, etc.). How all these norms and taboos breaking movies can be so praised and successful, without raising concerns among the audience ?
@Tarun.m.kumar6
@Tarun.m.kumar6 Ай бұрын
@@drodro7672 I agree. We sell Telugu cinema as Star showering vehicles where deep rooted misogony is always portrayed as heroic. Ismart Shankar is such an example. Puri sells misogny as heroism. The worst thing is the audience lap it up and celebrate it. Look at Liger, great that it received criticism. On the other hands Producers and Directors sell the movie as Entertainer. Downtroding women is not entertainment. It wasn't since Mahabharata, how has it become a norm now? Stars and Directors need a reality check. Audiences just cant lap up movies in the name of entertainment, we have to make sure everyone who does such things stands accountable.
@rahuljig1731
@rahuljig1731 Ай бұрын
​@@Tarun.m.kumar6Ask FC why did they not review Sanju movie then give all the gyaaan to others😂😂😂😂
@gatech5190
@gatech5190 Ай бұрын
@@rahuljig1731 Sanju was a biopic, have some brains
@rahuljig1731
@rahuljig1731 Ай бұрын
@@gatech5190 that's the point idiot biopic movies legends ka karte drug addict aur terrorism mein involve hone walo ka nahi🤣🤣🤣300 plus ladkiyon ka saath soya hero boltha hain aur anushka sharma impress hoti hain isn't it glorifying misogyny. Sonam ke gale mein commode daltha hain aur best friend ke gf ka leta hain😆😆aise admi ko hero bolte ho aur uska biopic 🤣🤣🤣very inspiring 🤣🤣🤣tum inspired ho shayad uss movie se dikh raha hain🤣🤣🤣
@sravanthijoginipally3867
@sravanthijoginipally3867 Ай бұрын
Finally ❤Telugu cinema does have better movies... mass commercial movies are misogynist it is great that we are talking about so change will start which is long due...
@CouchPohtatoh
@CouchPohtatoh Ай бұрын
FACTS!!! BRAVO!! I never understood how much misogyny in cinema can affect young adults until quite a few douchebags in my class had started catcalling and eve teasing the girls in their class with dialogues from Desamuduru! It was traumatic to say the least. Never watched a Puri Jagannath film or any other “mass” films after that! Stuck to rewatching the likes of Anand, Orange, Godavari, Happy days, YMC, Ala Modalaindi etc..
@NirupamaPutcha
@NirupamaPutcha Ай бұрын
Thank you for talking about this - the blatant misogyny & sexism of mainstream Telugu cinema of the past 20+ years is abhorrent. As a Telugu woman, I am ashamed of the kind of films that come from our industry. It is such a sad reflection of our society that these films have mass appeal & hooting audience. As you rightly pointed out, there is a grave risk of exporting this into the mainstream of bigger film industries like done via the despicable movie Animal.
@rahuljig1731
@rahuljig1731 Ай бұрын
Are you proud of Sanju movie dear😂😂ask FC why did they not review Sanju 😂😂guess why because it was produced by vidhu vinod chopra and who he is husband of anupama chopra 😂😂😂you should ask questions like these too dear😂😂😂
@eaglemgtow2789
@eaglemgtow2789 22 күн бұрын
You're NOT ashamed In scenes Where Violence against men is celebrated In your films via Some "STRONG" female character?? Flexing her EMPOWERMENT... But you justify that under the garb of those men are goons and we're not Suppose to be Empathetic towards them.
@Ok99012
@Ok99012 9 күн бұрын
Aunty what about films like Mahanati, Pellichoopulu and bahubali etc where women are shown stronger than men? What's a strong woman according to you, akka nuvvu lite tisko em bokka telidhu neku 😂
@Ok99012
@Ok99012 9 күн бұрын
If showing navel is a bad thing so is doing nanga dances in western costumes, at least Telugu films are showing women as someone who can speak up and be loyal etc not in other industries where a girl smoking is shown as women empowerment
@thegoodgirl3382
@thegoodgirl3382 Ай бұрын
On one side, Rajamouli is trying his best to pull Telugu cinema out of these stereotypes but the inherent side is going stronger in misogyny.
@050138
@050138 22 күн бұрын
Rajamouli changed since Magadheera.... It was like Rajamouli 2.0 Sukumar is the commercial director who has least cringy female leads from the debut movie.... Before you shout Pushpa, I still look at Srivalli's character as someone with both voice and agency and not really a bimbo....
@050138
@050138 22 күн бұрын
Directors like Parasuram Petla, Anil Ravipudi, Krishnavamsi, Puri, Surrender Reddy, Sreenu Vaitla, Vinayak have the most caricaturish female leads, but some of them have made some decent entertainers in the past.... Trivikram who is hyped up and kept on a pedestal by the average Telugu audience actually has very cringy female leads, he just uses them as another comedian in the movie.... 🤦 He just gets away as he makes movies with superstars and tries to lick their fans by writing some bhajana dialogues a d philosophical dialogues
@050138
@050138 22 күн бұрын
But these are all old directors and failing now .... New directors like Krish, Hanu Raghavapudi, Gautam Tinnanuri, Prashant Verma, Tharun Bhaskar, Prashant Verma and some 20 other new directors have showed lots of promising writing in last 10 years....
@kriz2281
@kriz2281 2 күн бұрын
@@050138 are Telugu people supporting such new directors?
@theprofessor8821
@theprofessor8821 Ай бұрын
Someone has the daring to point out the fallacies of Telugu cinema when it comes to portrayal of women.
@RinatRocks
@RinatRocks 28 күн бұрын
Women aren't good by default... there is no 1 right portrayal of women....
@chandranakash02
@chandranakash02 Ай бұрын
Recently watched a Mass commercial cinema named Aavesham with my friend which left him stunned, he was hoping it to have a item song, a needless romance and sexy heroine the moment I said it's a mass film and he was surprised while watching the film that there was no heroine, an celebratory song with only mens, no misogyny, a testosterone heavy film that doesn't mock women to prove the heroism of the Hero 😅 When somebody asked thw director why there's no female lead in his film he simply said the story didn't required one so I didn't🗿
@vikramprasanna8908
@vikramprasanna8908 Ай бұрын
The comments here proving the point of this video right.
@LLl-zi1ef
@LLl-zi1ef Ай бұрын
Yes it's only I'm Telugu film industry only Tamil industry only makes films where women only play goddess roles And have roles only equal to hero 🗿
@79Dnivara
@79Dnivara Ай бұрын
How? How does disagreeing with the arguments made in the video prove the video right?
@goodsaint_001
@goodsaint_001 Ай бұрын
@@LLl-zi1ef yes that's why nayanthara has fans there unlike your telugu heroines.
@greatavielite
@greatavielite Ай бұрын
@@goodsaint_001 which dumbass is the fan of nayanatara? 🤣🤣🤣
@greatavielite
@greatavielite Ай бұрын
@@goodsaint_001 which dumbass is the fan of Nayantara??? 😆😆😆
@eldiabloindahouse
@eldiabloindahouse Ай бұрын
Finally. Someone said it out loud.
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
N🦍 u can find it anywhere around the world.
@anonymouspersonbehind5354
@anonymouspersonbehind5354 Ай бұрын
​@@Raizel_Noblessemalayalam cinema and tamil cinema have eradicated it at least malayalam filims have done it and apart from some tamil movies they have also removed that trend And netlix type ott released hindi cinema is also reducing it
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
@@anonymouspersonbehind5354 All the clips he showed were 10/12 yrs back. Recently released he only managed to show 2 movies clips which clearly means he was not able to find more. So there is some change it might not be in large scale. how many yrs it took for mallus to end their Stereotype of b grade film's. 🍒🍑 Change doesn't happen overnight.
@anonymouspersonbehind5354
@anonymouspersonbehind5354 Ай бұрын
@@Raizel_Noblesse now they have resource to filim and if u know about malayalam filim industry u would know whole thriler artistic filim wave was dead in 2000s and came back in 2011-12 by just one filim the whole industry came back and changed So what is the problem to avoid a item song in a movie it is absolutely bizare women is treated as sex toy At least show some art value Tamil cinema is also bringing in progressive thoughts smoothly through their cinema
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
@@anonymouspersonbehind5354 how ignorant can someone can be. Man if u don't know just say so. Tryna to act smart. All young director like naga Ashwin, Prashant varma, Vidyadhar Kagita, Sandeep Raj & many more. They all directed film's like gaami, Mahanati, awe, kalki, agent sai etc. All these directors ain't following item song concept. Yeah we still have those 40s director. So can u stop babbling.
@thehypermonk89
@thehypermonk89 Ай бұрын
FINALLY!! Bravo to Sagar for writing the ever-present & never-questioned misogyny of the Telugu Cinema….& kudos to FC for approving a video essay that takes not just a sharp mind but also the courage to say it out loud! After years of criticism subdued as unfunny humour by Hriday Ranjan, FC comes up with this banger!! Damn!! Wish it was longer & dived into the nuances a lot more than just scraping the surface… May the force with you, Sagar!! For all the implausible mess that’s gonna directed at you… Good attempt but in vain…for as G.B.Shaw said…”Never wrestle with a pig. You’ll both get dirty & the pig likes it…” Cheers!! And much love…❤
@prasanthnaidu9999
@prasanthnaidu9999 Ай бұрын
Our society likes to hide things rather than facing / discussing them openly. That's what our parents and society taught us. This comment section proves it. Kudos for openly saying it. But not for long though, it's changing and will change as soon as all the old people die.
@siddharthdhulipala24
@siddharthdhulipala24 Ай бұрын
Most of the commerical telugu films are still helmed by directors who are way in their late 40s or are immature adults. They still cant seem to get past that "heroine" template. Its time producers stopped playing safe and work with young directors.
@eaglemgtow2789
@eaglemgtow2789 22 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 Hahaha. Male supremacy is IMMATURE and women beating up men in "feminist" Films is MATURE?
@Ayush-en5it
@Ayush-en5it Ай бұрын
I still don't get it how so many Telugu people like Guntur karam.
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
And how is that important to u?
@Ayush-en5it
@Ayush-en5it Ай бұрын
@@Raizel_Noblesse maybe because i like to watch good Telugu movies
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
@@Ayush-en5it oh really that's good.
@cineenthusiast1234
@cineenthusiast1234 Ай бұрын
They need only hero focused movies even if its a crap they will support they need to see their idol on a big screen thats enough
@LLl-zi1ef
@LLl-zi1ef Ай бұрын
Still fail to understand how Okkadu is better than cringe puking Ghilli
@jarvis3630
@jarvis3630 Ай бұрын
The no: of comments bashing this video is really alarming...guys relax if this issue is addressed it will definitely change the perspective of atleast some people.. rather than appreciating...u r bashing it lol
@cineenthusiast1234
@cineenthusiast1234 Ай бұрын
Ya 😊 these guys are frustrated for pointing out an issue in their language films
@jayakishore565
@jayakishore565 Ай бұрын
I see not much bashing . Iam confused where is bashing . Iam from TFI . I welcome this video . I just don’t see much bashing
@jarvis3630
@jarvis3630 Ай бұрын
@@jayakishore565 just look through all the comments..and if.. still u don't see it..then that's a serious problem...
@jayakishore565
@jayakishore565 Ай бұрын
@@jarvis3630 friend I see problem in ppl sitting on ivory towers and judging like u . I clearly said there is no much bashing . That means comparatively to the comments who support bashing comments are less . Try to be humble when giving replies
@jarvis3630
@jarvis3630 Ай бұрын
@@jayakishore565 nothing more to say mahnn...is bashing the problem or content of the video a problem..why r u frustrated... their were a lot of comments..still their r...i didn't take numbers...u r comment clearly says " u were confused..where is bashing" I hope u r confusion is rectified...
@cineenthusiast1234
@cineenthusiast1234 Ай бұрын
Tollywood, bollywood and to some extent ( a very low %) kannada cinema should learn how to treat women from other industries
@raja-jl9os
@raja-jl9os Ай бұрын
In terms of women represent bollywood is superior than south industry
@goodsaint_001
@goodsaint_001 Ай бұрын
😂 still tamil industry has loosu ponnu.
@cineenthusiast1234
@cineenthusiast1234 Ай бұрын
@@goodsaint_001 iam a malayali brother this DP is a curse for me
@agfitts
@agfitts 27 күн бұрын
Depends on type of movies they are making and every Telugu movie doesn’t make these stereotypes of women but it exists because telugu vallaki edi kotha em kadhu these kind of movies are rooted in TFI from 1960s
@generalact2529
@generalact2529 Ай бұрын
Finally a sensible film critic. Someone we need but don’t deserve. Thanks brother. Keep churning out good stuff like this.
@vaishnavimathivanan6420
@vaishnavimathivanan6420 Ай бұрын
As a woman, i find it to find a movie that i can remotely relate to and sit through the entire movie without flinching or hurt. i love watching movies in theatres but i had given that up now as it feels like a punishment to watch women being belittled in every aspect which js enjoyed by the audience. And that thing about pronoun is the same in Tamil.
@puffdaddy4920
@puffdaddy4920 Ай бұрын
The last bit about napolean film in theatre is disturbing. Yet when people with genuine intention contempts such films that deforms the minds they are branded as woke, feminist etc.
@victoryv116
@victoryv116 Ай бұрын
Defaming feminism is infact mysogyny because it question later ..
@somewhereunderthesky7093
@somewhereunderthesky7093 Ай бұрын
Telugu cinema = Hero entry + punch dialogues + beautiful heroine with navel show + item dance + villian killed by hero + couple of other songs…. Thats its. May be one or two will be different but not noticed by audiences. Thats the phenomenon of Telugu industry.
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
Those A list actors release a film once in 5 yrs & ur r saying all Telugu movie bla bla
@somewhereunderthesky7093
@somewhereunderthesky7093 Ай бұрын
@@Raizel_Noblesse Take leading actors last 5 movies…. Its not about the entire industry. There n no of good movies like rangastalam, ratacharithram, hit, falak nama das…. But still the leading actors should choose right scripts. They are still 10-20 years back.
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
@@somewhereunderthesky7093 then what's with that comment. U know that comment does not apply to whole industry.
@Raizel_Noblesse
@Raizel_Noblesse Ай бұрын
It would be better to take down the comment. Stop degrading whole industry.
@somewhereunderthesky7093
@somewhereunderthesky7093 Ай бұрын
@@Raizel_Noblesse when the leading actirs movies got released, that will showcase in another language also. So when the movie cross the border, it’s comes under industry. Only selective audience only watching all movies. Others generally watch only leading actors movie…
@Preeti-vg5wf
@Preeti-vg5wf Ай бұрын
It's an irony that pushpa won the national award
@jaschowdhari3463
@jaschowdhari3463 Ай бұрын
And RRR didnt
@greatavielite
@greatavielite Ай бұрын
its irony that jagan 'REDDY' voted as a chief minister while pk and cbn didn't 🙄
@venugopalaraothamiri7246
@venugopalaraothamiri7246 Ай бұрын
Allu Arjun won national award not movie
@SeizeTheDayMukhtar
@SeizeTheDayMukhtar 26 күн бұрын
With that cringy chest press. Im surprised how many choose to not even talk about it.
@authoenthu
@authoenthu Ай бұрын
Finally someone made video on this. That too reputed channel like film companion. Hats off
@venkatadri1299
@venkatadri1299 Ай бұрын
3:39 while venkatesh maha's observation was not wrong, you missed something. "adhi" is used if you disrespect someone or to refer someone who is very close to you. we use "thanu" generally to refer a woman. and we also use "ame","meeru" and by name if they are younger. So refering women same as inanimate objects is not the only way but a rather disrespectful way. Just like using "vadu","veedu" for men, despite being diiferent pronouns from inanimate objects, those pronouns are considered disrespectful and used when you hate someone or someone who is very close.
@JayZRY
@JayZRY Ай бұрын
very true, I rarely see people using thanu meeru athanu aame aaina, especially in telangana
@lvshwl
@lvshwl 27 күн бұрын
Why people are not realizing this is true and this is impacting larger section of youth. 😢 for the 1st time I feel like I want to add 1000 likes for an youtube video 😫🤓 👏🏼. People who are not understanding the content and commenting should learn to see the reality. Exactly those are the people who looks actors as demi gods.
@qrpprocs5845
@qrpprocs5845 26 күн бұрын
For those who spread hate against telugu cinema and point fingers on telugu cinema. No one in the world could make a shankarabharanam and make it the blockbuster it is and no one could come anywhere near k.vishwanath sir as a director. The so called commercial mass masala cinema stars like mahesh babu did seetamma vaakitlo in the peak of his stardom with venkatesh sir in a family drama. Forget whistle worthy moments it doesn't have a single punch dialogues or action episodes. You take these disasters (films) as reference and show them as this is what telugu cinema is. Have you ever watched a prashant Varma, vivek aathreya, tarun Bhaskar, Rahul, ravikanth, hanu raghavapudi or the previous generation babu, vamsi, karunakaran, vijaya Bhaskar, chandra shekar yeleti, shekar kammula many more there are and many more to come. I don't have a problem with having an awareness on this topic and discussed and addressed as well. But don't try to , don't dare to label telugu cinema like this
@sai6275
@sai6275 Ай бұрын
I don’t think DJ Tillu series has anything to do with gender non equality..just because the grey shade is a female character.. doesn’t mean it’s generalized.. the movie is just talking about some kinds of people who are on purpose cheating the other. No where it’s specific to only gender. Even DJ tillu character itself had a little grey shade but in comic way.
@cineenthusiast1234
@cineenthusiast1234 Ай бұрын
Ok explain me: an officer of cbid (or some organisation) need to kill biggest criminal in india so they need a man named tillu who is a murderer, so the lady officer make friendship with tillu and has sex with him and eventually he disclose she is a police officer and he is under arrest 😬, what the hell is this ?, this shows a lady officer can easily make a man convinced by offering a sex ?
@moviewick3207
@moviewick3207 Ай бұрын
I agree, dj tillu is comedy duology and it has nothing to do with misogyny
@prashantsunariya7986
@prashantsunariya7986 Ай бұрын
Sahi kaha bhai
@akashreddy2928
@akashreddy2928 Ай бұрын
Agreed. DJ Tillu's women characters are very smart and authoritative. It's Tillu who is an idiot.
@moviewick3207
@moviewick3207 Ай бұрын
@@akashreddy2928 they are grey shade characters, the point of dj tillu is that there is a guy who always falls in love with wrong women. These critics want only positive women characters, why there can't be negative shade or grey shade women characters.
@akhillian
@akhillian Ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis, and so well researched and written. Refreshing to see proper critical thinking applied to Telugu cinema. This industry has innovated so much thus far-imagine what it could do with a more rich and robust plurality of stories and perspectives. Thank you, Sagar and FC South 🙏🏽
@dhribbler7303
@dhribbler7303 Ай бұрын
Its simple treat women leads in movies as human beings and not pieces of meat. I know the usual comments will come along the way regarding the treatment of women in films saying the usual drivel about audience wanting it and the lead is an aNtI- hErO, but there is a much more basic problem that the video highlights, that it is not about even writing good parts for women in mainstream cinema, even that's some distance away, but rather is something much more basic about treating women characters with some basic dignity rather than some piece of meat for the hero/anti-hero or villain to ogle at or harass. Even in films I otherwise enjoy like Ala Vaikunthapuramalo, there are elements like the hero staring or rather ogling at the heroine's knees which are quite avoidable and do nothing in service of the plot except for showing the hero as a creep. This is just one example among many from films that I otherwise like and just leave a bad taste in the mouth.
@AidenR19
@AidenR19 27 күн бұрын
Message to the comments section, first of all he's talking about the Telugu cinema industry, don't get triggered like he attacked you personally. Second if you can't take criticism then you can't evolve into something better.
@kPk_editZ
@kPk_editZ Ай бұрын
I agree with this video wholeheartedly. But there is hope. Movies like Jersey, Vedam, Ante Sundaraniki MAHANATI......Ig we will one day break this regressive gender tropes indefinitely.
@wasim.ahmd.
@wasim.ahmd. 26 күн бұрын
Well, it's unbelievable that Balayya worked in a movie which was actually progressive. Bhagavanth Kesari actually was pro-feminist.
@pranaya2800
@pranaya2800 Ай бұрын
I do not think TILLU is misogynistic. Because it is not about hating women it is about women who cheated him.
@rahuljig1731
@rahuljig1731 Ай бұрын
Bro this channel targets telugu cinema. They did not review Sanju movie because it was produced by vidhu vinod chopra husband of anupama chopra. So it's clear that they are biased and intended to pull telugu cinema down which will never happen 😂😂😂
@victoryv116
@victoryv116 Ай бұрын
So when women cheat , you should leave her ...why to go such length to revenge to hurt ..then you become more worse than the person who cheated you ..moreover I have never seen any movie where women go after man taking revenge because he is cheated ..if she did it then she will be declared as psychopath., she will the villian ..but here in movie hero is justified ..that's why it's mysogyny ...cheating is wrong but the way it justify the crazy hysterical behavior of man is wrong .
@pranaya2800
@pranaya2800 Ай бұрын
@@victoryv116 Those heroines in the both the movies of TILLU not just cheated him but they tried to put TILLU into a trap. Murder trap in part 1 and in part 2 also she is a criminal. In both these movies he never tried to take revenge he just tried to get rid of all this mess by exposing them with proofs, because he might fall in that trap. Did you even watch these movies bro?
@victoryv116
@victoryv116 Ай бұрын
@@pranaya2800 there is concept of female fatale which extension of stereotyping women i to categories -pure and another is vamp , they are like black and white categories which is rooted in our culture ..so such movies in ocean of similar type of movies only strengthen such stereotypes..I think video also discussed it ..moreover female characters are written in such dumb way so stereotypical conforming many sexist tropes ..give some personality to villain also .
@pranaya2800
@pranaya2800 Ай бұрын
@@victoryv116 I support this video but still Tillu franchise is not misogyny to be specific. I am talking only about Tillu series.
@jilljacobson13
@jilljacobson13 Ай бұрын
I am a non-Desi long time fan of Telugu films. I have never understood why women are portrayed in such a way, even often disappearing entirely from the 2nd half of films. As an outsider I am less offended (my culture has its own issues with misogyny) and more perplexed. Do women not buy movie tickets there? Why do the men who presumably have Mothers, Sisters, Wives and Daughters still make films this way?
@harishmemories
@harishmemories Ай бұрын
Hi, telugu guy here and good that you are fan of telugu films😊. Where do you come from? I think, I can answer your question, till black and white era, telugu industry has made really great films as the cost of films were considerably low and directors can show their true art skills. but once the movies have shifted to color films that’s were the problem started and also to add to this problem telugu industry have to move to hyderbad during 70‘s and start from scratch again. From there, Telugu industry started making popular movies or so called mass movies to sustain. You have to understand hindi industry were initially started by elite and well educated class and our neighbors Tamil movie industry have their fair share of dravidian and Rationalists technicians who has influence in their movie making. Where as the telugu industry were always driven by few small individuals with pure passion and business mindsets and care less about ideals as they are not that educated like in bollywood. That’s what I think happened, people started here making films on what public like and care less about ideals, misogyny etc. That’s why if you see in the video, our telugu states have highest number of movie Theaters in the country and all it has to do with perfecting the art of popular film making. Of course, there are great directors here even in color era like viswanath, bapu, sangeetham srinivas, shekar kammula etc who cared less about popular cinema and made films on what they like but they never reached their heights as other commercial film makers. Even today the industry is run by individuals with passion and business mindsets, that’s why the industry could even dare to make bahubali. Yes, women here in our telugu states don’t like the way they are being portrayed but unfortunately the only way it can end is by rejecting it so that filmmakers would realise it and change how they are portraying women in movies. Although, I am still hopeful 😅 because the industry is now replacing slowly with young educated technicians. Hopefully in future, we might able to see more commercial movies with good women characters😊.
@jilljacobson13
@jilljacobson13 Ай бұрын
@@harishmemories Thank you, yes that all makes sense to me. I wonder what Shekar Kammula"s film with Dhanush will be like. I am from Minneapolis, Minnesota. Have watched Telugu films 2009-ish Have seen almost 200 at this point. (I watch all the language Industries from India)
@harishmemories
@harishmemories Ай бұрын
@@jilljacobson13 wow you have watched 200 telugu movies , which means you are true telugu cinema lover😊. keep going👍. Regarding to sekhar kammula film with dhanush, I am excited as much as you, it is definetly going to rock as he has always written every character in his films with equal importance😃.
@chidercorrect
@chidercorrect Ай бұрын
"Do women not buy movie tickets there? Why do the men who presumably have Mothers, Sisters, Wives and Daughters still make films this way?" - Majority of the audience are male. Male audience cheer for these scenes, in spite of having women they love at home. Interestingly women also watch these movies and cheer and often don't realize they are glorifying or continuing misogyny. The reason for this is Telugu cinema being misogynistic for many generations. All these men and women were once little boys and girls who grew up watching Telugu style misogyny and it became normal for them. So they don't realize what they are watching. And that's how these movies continue to fare well at box office.
@harishmemories
@harishmemories Ай бұрын
@@chidercorrect hey I don’t know where you come from but this is really bad generalization on entire telugu audiences😕. Yes, I agree that our filmmakers have failed in portraying movies with good women characters but that doesn’t make us bad, telugu audiences are known for their benevolence and we encourage any type of good films. What made you think we have highest number of theatres in the country? 😅Just to give you anecdote, when misogyny was it’s peak in movies during 80s director’s like viswanth, bapu were thriving and giving us cult classics and we made them superhits even when their films were released with some other mass masala films. When telugu industry lacked good film makers during 90s, we used to love director mani ratnam and his dubbed films were insanely successful in telugu states. Please stop generalizing us🥲. You are even generalizing telugu women, I don’t know how you have derived it, as I know that women in my house point out many times whenever there are problematic scenes shown in telugu movies🤷‍♂️.
@deepthipedagandham8281
@deepthipedagandham8281 Ай бұрын
At last someone speaking my mind . We do have some good movies which see women as a equal .. would like to see more .. of them Very good view of telugu movies ❤
@anniyanayalaan
@anniyanayalaan Ай бұрын
That one scene in arjun reddy... where the hero visited heroines hostel and kissing her in their third meeting where heroine never didn't show any objection...
@antonyarulprakash3435
@antonyarulprakash3435 Ай бұрын
It's the fact of Places where the so called litratures Bible, Quran, ramayana, Mahabharata etc are considered as word of unknown God 😢 unconditionally love and forgive make world paradise ❤
@rameshgopal3394
@rameshgopal3394 Ай бұрын
100% agreed , have been feeling the same since decades in TFI , especially starting from Raghavendra Rao films..surprisingly RGV never had such scenes in his peak...having said that other industries were never far behind , its just that they had more other side of films to offer
@Attitudezero884
@Attitudezero884 Ай бұрын
It is becoz other industries changed for example in one scene of 2007 vijay and asin tamil movie sivakasi asin comes to market wearing shorts and gets teased by few boys then vijays saves her and tells her that if you wear this kind of dresses you are bound to be teased and if you wear good dress people will not look at you but in recent master movie when there is similar scene the same vijay says there is nothing wrong in the dresses girls wear but there is wrong in eyes who see them wrongly and people who have wrong thoughts will see wrongly whatever dress girls wear, this is one huge change happened in tamil movies from past to now.
@GodofShinobi-rx5od
@GodofShinobi-rx5od Ай бұрын
Mysogny has been an undercurrent theme of this society. Every industry from hollywood to here in indian linguistics based movie industries its prevelant because Movies are a medium of expression of thoughts and imagination of an individual and group. The presence of a special song itself is a case of objectification of a women and using it as tool to promote movies. If you can extend your research more you can find mysogny in every linguistic film and you can also find higher virtuous value providing movies also in every industry. To label and confine only Telugu Industry as mysogynist in nature itself shows either your lack of research or a clear clase of biased propoganda to attribute that to Telugu filim industry. Movie is an art form there is nothing right or wrong about it. If at a larger scale the writer and directors representation is not suitable to current social fabric the Censor board can remove those scenes or label it with appropriate certification such that those sections of people can view it. Film Companion must stop its selective propaganda of targeting Telugu film by and large with these ridiculously narrow research based content that is by and large a phenomenon in every art medium. And to that end remarks where you saw a crowd applauding to certain mysognistic scene and conviently pushing it on to the impact of generational telugu movies i beg to differ you can walk across any hall in the world and you will find some one enjoying such scenes coz we are humans and we resonate to what we feel not just because what they show. The same crowd does have tears at a emotional scene, yell slogans watching a patriotic movie, hold their partners hand when they see a good romantic movie coz move is a form of expression that must be seen as a whole and not just through lens of progressive ideas and modern elitist viewpoint. Lets leave this one space where we can be what we actually feel and resonate with. Of that is something not okay people won't appreciate it as with the case of family star movie which was a disaster. Movies are one of those spaces where someone sits in a closed hall ready to confront the most ugliest and most virtuous thoughts that are portrayed by an creative individual and come out with his own perception about it. Its a free medium and anything beyond censor board has its hands spread to remove it. People by and large have mysogny don't attribute it to movies and especially to telugu movies that shows a very narrow viewpoint from your end for such reputed page that is aiming to celebrate movies and creativity. Feminism and progressiveness are needed for society but its not the fulcrum you fit Art. Art is endless and beyond the scope of our own morality and rules.Its just an expression of our consciousness. Iam not supportive of mysogny, Iam just against of subjection of art to limited space of moral ness and Iam completely against these ill researched propaganda based biased journalism. You have the liberty to make this video and I have the liberty to comment on it.
@ToeHogan
@ToeHogan Ай бұрын
The more pressing question is why actresses agree to perform in such misogynistic Telugu movies. Ultimately, it comes down to money.
@lvshwl
@lvshwl 27 күн бұрын
nobody wants to miss big team offers especially from big production houses. Look at baby actress now. I don’t understand why did she chose “love me if you dare”
@birdtrails
@birdtrails Ай бұрын
Brilliant essay. More of such honest and much needed topics, FC. It is long due.
@arunguduru7608
@arunguduru7608 Ай бұрын
you had me till you mentioned DJ Tillu
@moviewick3207
@moviewick3207 Ай бұрын
Me too
@muhammed.a.k
@muhammed.a.k Ай бұрын
What an essay. Wow to the creators. Much needed video.
@user-hv7nv5wy7h
@user-hv7nv5wy7h Ай бұрын
Not to defend the tillu franchise but, i don't really think it was promoting misogyny. Ofc like any other film that does, they could add songs/dialogues like 'aadallu maha mudurulu' and 'nammoddu aadavallani nammoddu' to spread the disbelief and ignorance against women. It was all about "RADHIKA" whom tillu feels like is the main problem for his life. I don't think the makers have tried to address the whole woman community. It is only my opinion. But if you talk about the way people are and have been taking it and cheering such scenes where women are not shown properly, yes it is concerning.... and also, I actually feel glad that someone's talking about this and pointing it out as an issue. Good work!
@sasankburugu945
@sasankburugu945 Ай бұрын
Filmmakers are products of their society. They seek to absorb the ideologies and theories that are reflected in it. However, society often exhibits deep-rooted inequalities that cannot be eliminated overnight. As a result, most filmmakers attempt to follow in the footsteps of their predecessors, but in a contemporary manner.
@punneeth89
@punneeth89 Ай бұрын
Loved it. A well made video essay. Another suggestion for a video essay would be, the movie posters. In pretty much every movie poster, the male protagonist is angry and ready to kill someone. As if aggression is the emotion we men feel and express. The women is some where there as a sex object.
@krishniarumugam
@krishniarumugam Ай бұрын
It reflects the society we live in
@akhilatanmai7322
@akhilatanmai7322 Ай бұрын
True …good video n nice research 🎉
@vishwaramesh
@vishwaramesh Ай бұрын
What a fantastic video. Very well analyzed.
@ArjunArjun-mt3rc
@ArjunArjun-mt3rc Ай бұрын
As malayali there is no sexism in Malayalam cinema..There are more and more films in Malayalam which talks about women empowerment.. 1)How old are you (2013). 2)The Great Indian kitchen(2022) 3)Jaya jaya jayahe(2023) 4)22 Female Kottayam (2012) 5)Uyare(2019) 5) Vaishali(1988) 6)Nandhanam(2002) 7)Achuvinte Amma(2005) 8)Helen(2019) 9)Take off(2017) 10)5 Sundarikal (2013) 11) Rani Padmini (2015) 12)Godha(2017) 13)C/O of Saira banu 14)June (2019) 15)Kalimannu(2013) 16)Ohm shanti Oshana(2014) 17)Kannezhuthi pottum thottu(1999) 18)Padam onn oru vilapam(2003) 19)Elsamma enna Aankutty(2010) 20)Akashadhootu(1993) 21)Panchagni(1986) 22)Naalu pennugal (2007) 23)Khadamma(2011) 24)ozhimuri(2014) 25)Sallapam(1996) 26)Ente Sooryaputhrikku(1991) 27)Aranyakam(1988) 28)Parinayam(1994) 29)Adaminte Variyellu(1983) 30)Perumazhakalam(2004). This will be very useful for those who loves good films..❤❤.. conquer the world with love...❤❤..spread positivity around everyone
@JuJuDen87
@JuJuDen87 Ай бұрын
Nirthi pode
@davanasantosh4180
@davanasantosh4180 Ай бұрын
Someone close to me has watched telugu movies all his life right from childhood It has shaped his personality and is a big time misogynist Even in every day life he uses film dialogues for regular conversations and he thinks it is very 'cool' to do it😮
@user-qp2vy3xn1u
@user-qp2vy3xn1u Ай бұрын
is this restricted to only telugu cinema😒it is same in tamil,kannada,malayalam as well but you cant question tamil movies bcoz their audience will bash you and thats why you dont dare to do that you are asking a right question but it is completely biased and targeting only telugu cinema
@silparema7555
@silparema7555 Ай бұрын
Is it same in Malayalam?
@Attitudezero884
@Attitudezero884 Ай бұрын
Tamil cinema came out of it long back bro even actor like vijay who uttered misogynistic diologues in past have changed his diologues today.
@ArjunArjun-mt3rc
@ArjunArjun-mt3rc Ай бұрын
​@@silparema7555As malayali there is no sexism in Malayalam cinema..There are more and more films in Malayalam which talks about women empowerment.. 1)How old are you (2013). 2)The Great Indian kitchen(2022) 3)Jaya jaya jayahe(2023) 4)22 Female Kottayam (2012) 5)Uyare(2019) 5) Vaishali(1988) 6)Nandhanam(2002) 7)Achuvinte Amma(2005) 8)Helen(2019) 9)Take off(2017) 10)5 Sundarikal (2013) 11) Rani Padmini (2015) 12)Godha(2017) 13)C/O of Saira banu 14)June (2019) 15)Kalimannu(2013) 16)Ohm shanti Oshana(2014) 17)Kannezhuthi pottum thottu(1999) 18)Padam onn oru vilapam(2003) 19)Elsamma enna Aankutty(2010) 20)Akashadhootu(1993) 21)Panchagni(1986) 22)Naalu pennugal (2007) 23)Khadamma(2011) 24)ozhimuri(2014) 25)Sallapam(1996) 26)Ente Sooryaputhrikku(1991) 27)Aranyakam(1988) 28)Parinayam(1994) 29)Adaminte Variyellu(1983) 30)Perumazhakalam(2004). This will be very useful for those who loves good films..❤❤.. conquer the world with love...❤❤..spread positivity around everyone
@ArjunArjun-mt3rc
@ArjunArjun-mt3rc Ай бұрын
​@Sayooj.shyam8As malayali there is no sexism in Malayalam cinema..There are more and more films in Malayalam which talks about women empowerment.. 1)How old are you (2013). 2)The Great Indian kitchen(2022) 3)Jaya jaya jayahe(2023) 4)22 Female Kottayam (2012) 5)Uyare(2019) 5) Vaishali(1988) 6)Nandhanam(2002) 7)Achuvinte Amma(2005) 8)Helen(2019) 9)Take off(2017) 10)5 Sundarikal (2013) 11) Rani Padmini (2015) 12)Godha(2017) 13)C/O of Saira banu 14)June (2019) 15)Kalimannu(2013) 16)Ohm shanti Oshana(2014) 17)Kannezhuthi pottum thottu(1999) 18)Padam onn oru vilapam(2003) 19)Elsamma enna Aankutty(2010) 20)Akashadhootu(1993) 21)Panchagni(1986) 22)Naalu pennugal (2007) 23)Khadamma(2011) 24)ozhimuri(2014) 25)Sallapam(1996) 26)Ente Sooryaputhrikku(1991) 27)Aranyakam(1988) 28)Parinayam(1994) 29)Adaminte Variyellu(1983) 30)Perumazhakalam(2004). This will be very useful for those who loves good films..❤❤.. conquer the world with love...❤❤..spread positivity around everyone
@kaparthisrishyam2892
@kaparthisrishyam2892 Ай бұрын
@@Attitudezero884 this is a joke. i think u have stopped watching his movies.
@mu2thehotness
@mu2thehotness Ай бұрын
This is an impt video and talking pt. Thanks for making it
@Anu90421
@Anu90421 27 күн бұрын
finally someone said it out loud i’m sick of it
@munslow_ak6248
@munslow_ak6248 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Scrutiny is what brings change, hope more Film enthusiasts and even Telugu film personalities talk about this, so the this process is catalysed. Been tired of cringing at this stuff.
@remaanisha740
@remaanisha740 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this perspective. I wish it reaches the directors of Telugu cinema.
@jananeerchandran9866
@jananeerchandran9866 Ай бұрын
Loved the content! Finally someone talked about it!
@thilagavelu8507
@thilagavelu8507 26 күн бұрын
Great insights! Hopefully filmmakers can tap into it.
@davanasantosh4180
@davanasantosh4180 Ай бұрын
I resonate very much with the last sentence in this sentence 'i think telugu cinema taught him'
@srividhyag.b.738
@srividhyag.b.738 Ай бұрын
only 552 likes and 277 comments, don't know how many dislikes! What's more alarming is the mindset of the Telugu audience who enjoy this bs!
@Sweetxy-wc4ei
@Sweetxy-wc4ei Ай бұрын
Tamil ppl should be the least one to say that. Wait until someone starts to dig Tamil films. I would love to read those comments. We saw what happened to Jayalalithaa.
@srividhyag.b.738
@srividhyag.b.738 Ай бұрын
@@Sweetxy-wc4ei Nobody here claimed Tamil cinema is without question. Atleast, not in 2024, we make films like this. No Tamil person celebrates the incident you mention, when it happened or was depicted onscreen. Vulgar objection of women is still prevalent predominantly in Telugu cinema, whereas such movies in Tamil are frowned upon here. The last movie I could remember in Tamil that objectified women is as recent as Aranamanai 4, with its item number and all. But no main star does movies like this here. Even Vijay's Varisu had a very bad love track, thanks to a Telugu director. So the point here, golti, is that you are a golti!
@siddharthdhulipala24
@siddharthdhulipala24 Ай бұрын
​@@srividhyag.b.738it's bold of you to assume that just because the audience enjoys a mass movie with misogynist elements, the audience is misogynistic. A mass movie, or any movie for that matter, has several elements that could be liked or disliked. Dance, songs, plot, leads performance, so on and so forth. So a movies success may not be a right indicator to measure the audiences progressiveness is what I would like to conclude. I cant imagine anyone coming out of a theater and saying, " Man! love that scene where hero called her a $lut." Most people choose to ignore and enjoy the rest of the film.
@Sweetxy-wc4ei
@Sweetxy-wc4ei Ай бұрын
@@srividhyag.b.738 sambar uhh the smells 🤢🤮 then why is that 0Id fart dancing kavali da with 20s grls.All ur actors acted in those type of movies🤣😂 All those clips he showed in video were 10 yrs back. Vijay J that 🦍 can't stop to remake Telugu films He won't be doing remakes if you Tamil ppl don't like it. Now ur trying to act so funny. The incident show the mindset of u ppl btw he was ur leader u elected him. Sambar da
@Sweetxy-wc4ei
@Sweetxy-wc4ei Ай бұрын
@@srividhyag.b.738 sambar uhh it smells 🤢🤮
@antiwokehuman
@antiwokehuman 24 күн бұрын
Let’s be real. Most mainstream telugu movies are just embarrassingly bad. Writing, acting, screenplay etc are all substandard
@chris-hl3lr
@chris-hl3lr Ай бұрын
Finally some one spit out !!!
@ssh0059
@ssh0059 12 күн бұрын
Finally someone spoke about it, thank you!
@ratnasakritip8466
@ratnasakritip8466 12 күн бұрын
End of this video is extremely disturbing than anything, that literally shook me.
@sreeharshanrusimha216
@sreeharshanrusimha216 Ай бұрын
great work!
@lvshwl
@lvshwl 27 күн бұрын
I am happy that Film companion made of video about this 😌
@mohnishr481
@mohnishr481 Ай бұрын
Brave to make a video on this very topic after you are from film companion south, you know your flaws and your strengths, ❤
@015divyan4
@015divyan4 Ай бұрын
Correctly worded, well said!💯👏🏽
@lx7lw
@lx7lw Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!!
@sneha.........
@sneha......... Ай бұрын
Growing up in the 2000s I have never seen a strong woman character that I could relate to in telugu cinema...it was only Rani, Kajol and Priety I looked upto as they did most of the movies in 2000s till 2010.. the fact that pretty woman can be a strong indvidual is not at all shown....a pretty woman is always shown as someone who needs a guy to tell her what to do in life...and a strong woman was always protrayed in negative characters.....I mean mentally strong here....
@ravitejasikhakolli
@ravitejasikhakolli Ай бұрын
Dj tillu is not misogynistic, get it corrected
@naveens696
@naveens696 Ай бұрын
I agree to what u said...there ia misogyny in telugu movies. But in case of the movie baby....what is wrong in the movie...there are women who cheat or are gold diggers and there are men falling victims to them...what is wrong in showing that in movies.....had the genders been reversed that movie... most reviewers would have been appreciated it....why this double standard.
@Abhi-lj7xp
@Abhi-lj7xp Ай бұрын
The can't accept the reality 🤡 according to simps like him and feminsts all women are saints 🤡
@chidercorrect
@chidercorrect Ай бұрын
The point of bringing Baby movie into the discussion was to mention what Telugu male audience typically cheer for - scolding a heroine. And that is not Telugu men's fault. It is society and decades of Telugu cinema fault. Showing bad women has become either a major conflict point of the movies, or a simple filler scene/comedy dialogue that audience could easily relate to. Male characters who are flawed are usually heroic and we clap for them. But female characters who are flawed are usually scolded and scolded. It is about constant pattern that is still continuing. Not about one single movie.
@Acetvn-kg6ty
@Acetvn-kg6ty Ай бұрын
​@@chidercorrect there is a difference. Male characters having flaws grow to character. And Male characters go through many tough situations. a woman cheating is still a bad case. You don't see audience cheering for Men who cheat women. Then don't expect women to get excuse when they does the same.
@eaglemgtow2789
@eaglemgtow2789 22 күн бұрын
​@@chidercorrect SAME WITH THE FEMALE AUDIENCE!! female audience also get influenced by Females beating Up men in female empowerment films.... What makes you think Female audience THINK OTHERWISE??
@tejpratapmarella9767
@tejpratapmarella9767 Ай бұрын
i do agree with a lot of things you have pointed out, it needs to be pointed out, that change and realization is very important, as a telugu person i feel you should have done and presented more research on both the mysogny elements in the mainstream and also the good movies. Because it looks like you have presented very less about the good movies. I know that it is the mainstream movies are the ones more watched and so its effect is more so it needs to be critcized but the telugu film industry is just not those shitty movies, i also watch the other ones, i also believe that things will and are changing with emergence of new film makers like vivek athreya, vidyadhar kagita, shouryuv, srikanth nagothi. I dont know how films like family star and guntur karam performed at box office but i have seen fans, the audience disliking the films but i think it because of overall bad writing not necessarily because of treatment of women character, but i hope that these regressive character treatment (especially in the mainstream movies) does become a topic of discussion as it is very important for the change we want to see. As a telugu guy i do not want such movies cause a black mark for the whole Telugu Film Industry, while there are good movies like month of madhu, ante sundaranili, hi nanna, brochevaru evuru ra, gaami, to be ignored. i dont think that dj tillu 2 was a bad movie, it was entertaining, i think there is a difference between wrong treatment of character and writing a character, DJ tillu 2 has characters which are written well serves the purpose of story while not being regressive, cmon guys it was just two people making out with consent. At the same time there exists movies like pushpa which is according to me a nice movie but with a regressive character of rashmika, the lead pays money for a kiss, and potrayed as romantic, the whole love story subplot of the movie was just sensless, but removing the subplot it was a nice movie
@MaheshReddyB
@MaheshReddyB Ай бұрын
Thoughtful and truthful insight unlike this video’s script. The writer wakes-up and decides to conveniently over-look good movies where women are treated right/represented well in Telugu and intentionally doesn’t point out misogyny in other movie industries per say. I hope the same writer wakes-up one day and spit the facts about other movies from different industries where women were/are ill-treated and mis-represented. Which I guess wouldn’t happen. I would be happy if proven otherwise
@prashch5223
@prashch5223 Ай бұрын
​@@MaheshReddyBhe won't do that if he starts to expose other industries that day he will be jobI3ss. All this trying to bring change is a joke he just wanna please his w0ké master's.
@tejpratapmarella9767
@tejpratapmarella9767 Ай бұрын
​@@prashch5223 i don't think he wants to please anyone, it is true that when compared to other industries in the present time many mainstream Telugu films which mostly are also screened outside two Telugu states still have regressive themes which other industries had in the past too but eventually the amount of these themes reduced, I hope even TFI changes, no hate to the writer of this video he has done the right thing, Watch tried and refused productions, he talks about even other industries in context of regressive themes
@Attitudezero884
@Attitudezero884 Ай бұрын
​​@@prashch5223 lol in other industries these were pointed out and criticized by audience itself even tamilians didn't leave vijay itself in such a way vijay changed his diologues in master from whatever he uttered in his past movies
@yashwanthchoudary8302
@yashwanthchoudary8302 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this
@madadventures8184
@madadventures8184 Ай бұрын
Hope your message reaches out to telugu movie directors.
@peaceoflife6707
@peaceoflife6707 29 күн бұрын
Some one had to say it.. So damn true
@prashanthmotadoo6084
@prashanthmotadoo6084 23 күн бұрын
Even though Telugu films are good at entertaining, the portrayal of female leads is atrocious. When a top director like Sukumar says: "For me, a song means only item song", you can imagine what a terrible state we are in. Anyway, Satyabhama is a female oriented movie made against the advices of top film makers in TFI. I hope everyone watches it in cinemas ensure it becomes a mojor hit. The story and the performances are top notch. I hope people will return to the cinemas as they used to before when Vijayashanthi portrayed such roles.
@durgar4283
@durgar4283 21 күн бұрын
Spot on....
@arjunhari6384
@arjunhari6384 Ай бұрын
Well written!
@ThePromptHub
@ThePromptHub Ай бұрын
And the last sentence that's what we call stereotype. By single sentence or whistle you decide the audience and the industry. I think you haven't seen most of the telugu films.
@JayZRY
@JayZRY Ай бұрын
you better listen and understand that last line again, you clearly did not get it
@kaparthisrishyam2892
@kaparthisrishyam2892 Ай бұрын
he spoke about "baby" movie and said how some fans were whistling and cheering... movie grossed more than 100 crores... there are crores of telugu people in AP and TS. Different people react differently. Don't blame the cinema for that. Especially in the Baby movie, the director did not portray the movie with that perspective... I agree that there are many mainstream movies which are misogynistic in its nature.... but you just generalize and bash everything...see criticism is not the problem... I want it to come.. I want people to realize and vote for good cinema... But by criticizing the work of this industry so much, you are in a way undermining what they have done right. Telugu cinema is beyond that. Different kinds of movies are made here. There are many movies where women were respected, where there is no misogyny. Lets take a mainstream movie only. "Bhagvanth Kesari" featured by Balakrishna and Sreeleela - the movie was about women empowerment and women dignity... what I am trying to say is people should not see this in black and white just like how the journalist in the video has seen it. I am not interested in any comparison but for that matter I can show many tamil and Hindi films which have misogynistic episodes... Don't defame the industry with half truth arguments. Ones who watch telugu movies can decided it for themselves.. But others will be influenced by your propaganda... thats my request.
@victoryv116
@victoryv116 Ай бұрын
It's not about defaming telgu cinema .every cinema has it mits about justify and resistance to change because inorder to pander the audience
@Madhuwellness
@Madhuwellness 18 күн бұрын
Cannot agree more. Movies are reflection of society. Gender politics that exist in the society, that is what we should be questioning. Dowry!!! Because of which rich girls can afford better grooms. When they offer high dowry they get more demanding. Think about it, this creates agitation on both the sides. Feminism is about equality. Few mistake it to superiority of women. No! Gender equality is what it is, that is what we should focus on in all possible ways.
@ravitejasikhakolli
@ravitejasikhakolli Ай бұрын
Is it necessary to give spoilers for Napoleon movie, God these critics 2 brain cells
@dpasumarthy
@dpasumarthy 29 күн бұрын
Being a Telugaite myself, I have maybe watched very few movies in the ones mentioned, from which I could catch the context rather easily. I also see that many (almost all) telugu men of my generation mirror the male characters on screen, and truth be told, it's infuriating to the point that I would never want a Telugaite partner, although I love the language and certain things about my roots.
@rishikareddy3412
@rishikareddy3412 24 күн бұрын
Been writing at the intersectionalities of caste and gender politics of tfi for a while now, but who cares, nothing’s gonna change. However if u would like to explore further, The strong women played by bhanumati g. Varalakshmi, kannamba, santhakumari (each of them have been involved with direction and production enabling them to wield more power and autonomy) in not just the films but in mentoring some of the big male superstars and how Jamuna stood her ground and gave it back to the likes of ntr and anr successfully, from those days to how with the rise of the superstar and the disproportionate pay scales, minimised screen times of everyone but this hero (of even character artistes, remember how rich relangi, svr, rajababu, suryakantham, girija were) has now paved way for today’s voiceless mannequins to titillate the chads make for a great thesis. Yeah, the reason for the rise of the super hero cult is in itself entrenched in the fan wars that are a proxy for caste conflicts, and it’s definitely one of the many reasons of the sorry state of affairs here. an interesting academic discussion to have in order to find solutions would be to take a deeper look at understand the changing syntax of cinema over the years within the socio cultural setting of Telugu households, our refusal to evolve and stick to status quo and if there are any lessons from the past that we can adapt to change this.
@naninani1549
@naninani1549 Ай бұрын
I agree with this posts concerns but It's not just in Telugu cinema alone every industry has movies like this but targeting only Telugu and your blindness towards other industries is quite noticible, instead you could have made entire indian cinema, and also do one on anti hindu and Christian conversion propaganda in all the industries ..
@Attitudezero884
@Attitudezero884 Ай бұрын
Other industries changed them already if you see even actor like vijay who uttered misogynistic diologues in past have changed his diologues today the example for it is sivakasi movie dress scene where he says girls are bound to be teased of they wear indecent clothes and will be respected if they wear decent clothes but in recent master movie in similar scene he says there is no wrong in girls dress but wrong is in eyes you look at them and a person having wrong thoughts will look at girls in wrong way only whatever dress they wear.
@sitachowkulkar7324
@sitachowkulkar7324 Ай бұрын
Every word is true.
@siddhuy315
@siddhuy315 Ай бұрын
Why don’t film companion put a round table, bring Telugu directors and ask the same question? Adding to that, stop pretending some other industries are not doing the same.
@Sageyear
@Sageyear Ай бұрын
This is also partially why lot of Telugu girls are discouraged when it comes acting in movies. You will see mostly actresses from other regions. Didn't they find this misogynistic? They can choose to not act in these objectified roles, but accepted for financial incentives and fame. They are equally to blame. In fact, Telugu industry has always made more movies where male actors are usually simps, this crazy obsession for a girl, lol.
@krisskross6074
@krisskross6074 Ай бұрын
Tamil cinema has a huge list of films with simps as the lead male characters. They have been making such films for decades.
@dnapolren
@dnapolren Ай бұрын
Heck when are we going to move on to female superstars and female only protagonists
@harishmemories
@harishmemories Ай бұрын
Hi sagar, I want to say this is a interesting point of view that you are trying to say. I am with you because I also want to see more movies like Anand and protraying of women in telugu movies in a progressive way. But you missed one fundamental point that is if the movies is about lets say a lower class and uneducated person that is living in 80´s or 90´s like in pushpa movie, do you really expect him to have moral compass towards women🤷‍♂. I don´t know what to say man. It is exactly these type of views that is now causing so called anti´-feminist waves and fundamentally eradicating cause of simone de beauvoir🤦‍♂. I just want to say let the movie makers create their own characters, yes even I don´t like it how they are protraying women but I also don´t like when a character like pushpa acts like a feminist. It is rediculous😅. Yes, you are right on one thing that we are celebrating too many so called ´´ rowdy heros´´, but you have to understand the business of movie theatres as majority of audience are young men and everyone like to see gray characters rather than good guys these days. The only solution for this problem, the actors, directors and producers need to do some kind to correction within themseleves before the start of shooting the film. For example, take family star, Has the character Govardhan could really said those unbearble and stupid lines towards the villain? The director could always defend his lines and tell why he could say it in that situation but the actors and producers could have stopped it and say it honestly that this really stupid and rejected it.
@chidercorrect
@chidercorrect Ай бұрын
"But you missed one fundamental point that is if the movies is about lets say a lower class and uneducated person that is living in 80´s or 90´s like in pushpa movie, do you really expect him to have moral compass towards women" - Problem is showing such behavior as a cool thing. Ultimately he is still a hero who is cheered for and he never faces consequences for his actions. Problem is not showing misogyny realistically like you said. Problem is glorifying it.
@harishmemories
@harishmemories Ай бұрын
@@chidercorrect Good point raised but let’s agree to disagree, first let filmmakers make how they want to make. Yes, I don’t like it but if you think about it, it is a thin line, when the movie is about let’s say pushpa and movie was narrated by his friend who has similar ideals as pushpa. I don’t know man, what to expect from him, he will of course glorify about his friend each and everything including misogyny. It’s all about character perspective that the movie is trying to say. Yes, it’s problematic that hero is not facing any consequences, but that’s also how life functions as well man, some people never face any consequences for their behavior but majority in general do face it and that’s how society in general move forwards. As I said again, we are celebrating too many movies on so called rowdy heroes, but I still have hope that in future more film makers would make movies on normal heros, the one telugu cinema has made during black and white era. Then it could balances out😊.
@saisrikargubbala6862
@saisrikargubbala6862 Ай бұрын
Used to watch this channel for BD before and Ram venkat srikar now, but this is too much and yeah unsubscribing this channel now!
@prashanthsinehan2894
@prashanthsinehan2894 Ай бұрын
Watch pelli choopulu, Fida, Lovestory, Arundhati
@vipulpathak8882
@vipulpathak8882 12 күн бұрын
Film companion south with a western Moral system
@rasputin774
@rasputin774 Ай бұрын
Na they are just following their uppercaste ego in their movies. Atlast this industry is about few families and a million brainless fans
@Ayush-en5it
@Ayush-en5it Ай бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻
@GreyMostly
@GreyMostly Ай бұрын
If you were going to make a video on "Telugu Cinema", It'd have been appropriate to have the narration in Telugu or at least subtitles in Telugu. Since it is obvious that the audience and makers consume cinema in this language. I'm curious to know about the intention behind making this Video Essay which is not in Telugu. మీరు "తెలుగు సినిమా" గురించి వీడియో చేయబోతున్నట్లయితే, తెలుగులో కథనం లేదా కనీసం తెలుగులో ఉపశీర్షికలు ఉంటే సరిపోయేది. ప్రేక్షకులు మరియు నిర్మాతలు సినిమాని ఈ భాషలోనే వినియోగిస్తారన్నది సుస్పష్టం కాబట్టి. తెలుగులో లేని ఈ వీడియో వ్యాసాన్ని రూపొందించడం వెనుక ఉద్దేశం గురించి తెలుసుకోవాలని నేను ఆసక్తిగా ఉన్నాను.
@ajaybhasi
@ajaybhasi 25 күн бұрын
Cinema is a reflection of the society.
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