The MISSING Children Of The Tudor Royal Family

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OffWithOurHeads

OffWithOurHeads

Жыл бұрын

Inside of Westminster Abbey, there are six royal tudor burials and there are a number which are rather well hidden. All of those children to the notorious King Henry VIII are buried inside of Westminster Abbey. Two of his daughters, Queen Bloody Mary I and Elizabeth I lie interred in a rather large tomb in Henry VII’s Lady Chapel inside of a side vault. The tomb shows Elizabeth and only a small reference is made to her sister Mary I who ruled before the Virgin been. Also their half brother, Edward VI the direct successor of Henry VIII is buried inside of the Lady Chapel, and the location of his grave is marked by a modern stone. However sitting in the centre of the beautiful chapel are Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, the mother and father of the Tudor dynasty. Their tomb is magnificent, and closely Lady Margaret Beaufort, Henry VII’s mother is buried in the abbey. Also buried in the elaborate Abbey is Anne of Cleves, Henry VIII’s fourth wife. Henry VIII himself is buried at Windsor Castle along with his third wife Jane Seymour.
But there are a number of mysteries of the Tudor Period, and in particular there are at least four Tudor children who have vanished from seemingly the face of the earth. Their burial locations are not known, and it’s not entirely clear what happened to them after their death.

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@suemealor3180
@suemealor3180 Жыл бұрын
Many royals have had nicknames, mostly given to them by the common people, for example, Bluff King Hal, The Virgin Queen, Edward Longshanks, The Kings Whore, etc. Bloody Mary is just another example and refers to her zealous execution of Protestants during her reign.
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite Жыл бұрын
Furthermore, I really like when people talk about Henry, Duke of Cornwall. Henry tried to make history remember Katherine of Aragon as a failure because she had numerous miscarriages, stillbirths and the one surviving child who was a girl, with Prince Henry often forgotten. He was born a male, healthy and was Katherine's fulfillment of her duty as a Queen. He just sadly died young as many babies did at the time...
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite Жыл бұрын
@D C Big facts 💯
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
Curious, Henry's mother's experience with having babies is quite similar. Rh- factor? What I have read and seen on Henry VIII's health, rh- is one suspect, they've all but ruled out syphilis. (I don't believe he had it). The most recent review they believe it was another genetic issue. Look at the children from his father...
@lesliedavis6375
@lesliedavis6375 Жыл бұрын
I know this clip isn't about this. But I have always wondered if part of Elizabeth the 1st reason for not marrying and having children. Might have been out of spite for her father even though he was dead. Bc of his overwhelmingly desire to make the Tudor line carry on for centuries. Is what caused her mother's death and all the trauma she dealt with. So almost like "I will show you father it will all end with me, your name will be gone." I am sure there was several reasons but I try believe this might have been part of it.
@joannekerr8797
@joannekerr8797 Жыл бұрын
This may have been the case but I think she didn't have any children because it would have been very unwise. If she had kid's they could be used by her enemies to manipulate her, they would be under constant threat and keeping them safe would be a nightmare. Even if she gave up being the queen to have a family it wouldn't work because she's a tudor and her kids would have claims to the throne so they still wouldnt be safe.
@YLTxoxo
@YLTxoxo Жыл бұрын
As far as I know, she also didn’t want to marry bc the man would’ve had equal or more power than her. & she didn’t want that. And what would she have done if she were to die during childbirth or of the aftermath of that, like her stepmother Jane Seymour. She also saw her sister trying to conceive and failing with a husband who had power in England and in his own land. She would’ve had married a man of lower rank and not from England. Bc if she did marry a english man, the nobles would’ve thought she favoured his family. She would’ve had married a spare from an European royal house. But most of them were Catholic and Elizabeth wanted to stay Protestant bc of her parents. So I think Elizabeth made the right choice seeing her circumstances. But I agree, that it might’ve been as revenge to her father.
@jennamcguire5067
@jennamcguire5067 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was because she was scorned by love. She seems to have experience with a tumultuous childhood of being adored and then being written off. In my humble opinion, I think she didn’t want a child to go through that. A family in which either parent was missing or dead or not in love. I believe she was a great romantic.
@lesliedavis6375
@lesliedavis6375 Жыл бұрын
@@jennamcguire5067 she definitely had strong feelings for her mother that she had to keep hidden. She even wore a ring clear up until the day she died that was like a hidden locket that had her moms face carved inside with hers. So what happened to her mother definitely played a big part in her life even though she tried to hide it. That's what makes me think there had to be some resentment for her fathers wishes. I know there was alot of things that probably went toward her decision. But knowing what all Henry VIII did to his wives and children I kinda like to think of her kinda having a chuckle to herself that she was a better ruler and a girl when he felt such a need for a male heir. And that his line ended there even after all his actions to try to make the Tudor line go on to rule for generations. Like that saying people have I bet he was rolling in his grave.
@peaceful3250
@peaceful3250 Жыл бұрын
@@YLTxoxo I think you are closest to the real reasons.
@maryellencook9528
@maryellencook9528 Жыл бұрын
Princess Catherine Tudor may have been buried with her mother, Elizabeth of York.
@dolldoll2914
@dolldoll2914 Жыл бұрын
👩‍💻I thought the same thing. Why not bury Queen Elizabeth of York and little Princess Catherine together, most appropriate and makes the most sense. Much love and peace. 🙋‍♀️🪔🌠🐞🥰&♎🇺🇲🇬🇧
@margerycurnow2739
@margerycurnow2739 Жыл бұрын
Thats what usually happened when mother and baby died during birth x
@dolldoll2914
@dolldoll2914 Жыл бұрын
@@margerycurnow2739 👩‍💻Thanks for mentioning that. I figured since little Catherine was a royal baby, she would gave her own little place for a royal burial. I appreciate your insight, thanks. Much love and peace. 🙋‍♀️🪔🌠🐞🥰&♎🇺🇲🇬🇧
@jenniferroland350
@jenniferroland350 Жыл бұрын
@@margerycurnow2739 Many times they were buried together. That would make sense and I’m sure many mother would want that.
@jenniferroland350
@jenniferroland350 Жыл бұрын
may not be the case here though? So sad.
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and an unexpected topic. The children of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York who died prematurely are usually mentioned as just minor name in the chapters of their mother's birth record but very few people talk about Princess Elizabeth's funeral services for example. Great video!
@itsjustme7487
@itsjustme7487 Жыл бұрын
My grandma had three young siblings who died of the Spanish flu. They were buried in un marked Graves. Very sad.
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
My great grandfather's first wife died from the Spanish Flu too. She was pregnant at the time. Mother and child both died within hours if each other. They were buried together in the same coffin. I had another great grandmother who died from the Spanish Flu. And another family, living in Nebraska, another great grandparents. They were quarantined in their large farmhouse. Only family members were allowed in the home. They buried like 9 members, parents, siblings, inlaws, and grand kids.
@lexicook7967
@lexicook7967 Жыл бұрын
Why are some commenters so angry about the use of the nickname Bloody Mary? That’s what Queen Mary I was known as historically, not a spiteful personal nickname by the narrator. It might not have been entirely fair to the queen to be given that nickname, but it’s a very well known nickname with historical precedent.
@Leno323
@Leno323 Жыл бұрын
They don’t want to face the truth about Queen Mary I being bloodthirsty or the fact that Queen Elizabeth I being a major proponent of slavery. They’d rather call her “the greatest queen in English history” - even though she was not a good person just like Mary I.
@BTScriviner
@BTScriviner Жыл бұрын
Because this narrator always does it, and Mary's reign is more than that. Without the foundation as regnant queen that Mary established, Elizabeth would not have reached the heights she did.
@lexicook7967
@lexicook7967 Жыл бұрын
@@BTScriviner again, i agree that the nickname itself is reductive. i just don’t agree with people losing their minds over the narrators use of the nickname. it’s not like the narrator made it up herself, she’s just using the nickname for the queen that was around even during her reign.
@adrienneclarke3953
@adrienneclarke3953 Жыл бұрын
The drink named after her is fantastic
@boiicrazy01
@boiicrazy01 Жыл бұрын
You don’t hear her refer to Queen Elizabeth as the virgin queen nearly as much though so it definitely comes off as being done with mal intent.
@ambreeniram2268
@ambreeniram2268 Жыл бұрын
So many infants used to die due to lack of medical science. Mothers had such difficult labour. Thank goodness we are past that. But still a lot needs to be done for mothers and infants in developing countries. May every child live to see a long happy life ahead of him/her.
@serahloeffelroberts9901
@serahloeffelroberts9901 Ай бұрын
Maternity and early childhood were perilous times well into the 20th century. A disease such as diphtheria could not only take out an entire family of children but also their mother due to its highly infectious nature. Countless other children were left blind, deaf and maimed by other infectious diseases. Thanks to vaccines, serums and especially antibiotics what was a possible death sentence can be a minor illness easily managed at home. Most children born today can look forward to a normal life span.
@Mashka14
@Mashka14 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating informative video on the gravesites of the Children from the Tudor Family Tree
@tosh.m.k
@tosh.m.k Жыл бұрын
I think "Bloody Mary" is kind of badass
@angr3819
@angr3819 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Curious, isn't it?
@jandrews6254
@jandrews6254 Жыл бұрын
Might Elizabeth Of York and her infant daughter, Katherine, have been entombed together. Their deaths were only a day apart
@heathercarpenter5497
@heathercarpenter5497 Жыл бұрын
That does make the most sense.
@bernadettemcmanus7975
@bernadettemcmanus7975 Жыл бұрын
Id love to know what happened to King H the 8th's illegitimate children.
@marymarth7298
@marymarth7298 Жыл бұрын
Like the rest they were of no importance and since they did not have child support the poor woman had to fend for themselves. Henry 8th was a real pig of a man/leader/husband. There you go.
@suzycreamchez123
@suzycreamchez123 Жыл бұрын
And what of Sir Roland de Velville, son of Henry VII by a Breton woman while in exile?
@zzzzipy12
@zzzzipy12 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if babies or small chikdren are often placed inside the coffins of their mother? Especially if their deaths are close together.
@rileyc172
@rileyc172 Жыл бұрын
That's my guess in this case, as well. Especially because it was common for the time.
@suemealor3180
@suemealor3180 Жыл бұрын
They were often buried with a female of no relation too
@rileyc172
@rileyc172 Жыл бұрын
@@suemealor3180 very true. less common for royal children, but it did happen. a very sad thought😥
@maryblushes7189
@maryblushes7189 Жыл бұрын
Yes, even done in my family less than 70 years ago. Babys buried at the feet of a relative, no plot for them but put in a relatives plot. My aunt buried 2 that way and granny buried 3 like that. One set of twin boys and my father's twin sister, who I am named after. Children died pretty often back then. Granny had 5 children and only 2 lived to adulthood. Premmies happened a lot back then. Daddy was a miracle baby as he weighed only 3 pounds but lived. His twin sister weighted less and did not make it. That was in 1927.
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
@@maryblushes7189 My great grandpa's first wife died when the Spanish Flu caused her to deliver her first child, who died hours later. They were buried together, requested by her parents (to save money), and probably just the idea of a baby being alone in death. In my genealogy experience, I have come across where babies were buried with their mothers when they died around the same time of delivery.
@Sngbrd1001
@Sngbrd1001 Жыл бұрын
Um, doesn't logic dictate that the baby who died the day before her mother was buried WITH her mother? Unless they've opened her tomb and verified that there are no bones of a baby in the tomb? Or, maybe there is documentation somewhere stating that Elizabeth of York was buried alone? If not, then my guess is that they buried them together.
@Heothbremel
@Heothbremel Жыл бұрын
@lesleyhawes6895
@lesleyhawes6895 Жыл бұрын
As an ex-English teacher, this comment is nothing to do with the historical content, which is interesting and as far as is known, accurate, but the commentator's insistence in saying "inside of"Westminster. abbey" you don't need to use OF !
@joanbroad3528
@joanbroad3528 Жыл бұрын
I would love to know what happened to Mary Seymour daughter of Catherine Parr and Thomas Seymour.
@i_luv_hecklefish
@i_luv_hecklefish Жыл бұрын
Me too! Sadly, the records pertaining to her are few. Besides a few questionable mentions, her trail goes cold around the age of two. 😪
@christineingram55
@christineingram55 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad they were lost.But when you go around graveyards a lot ,especially the older ones , there are lots of headstones with no markings on that seem to be children ,some just say Infant children of at the end of a headstone. It maybe the case with children of the Royals then too ,they were just buried and not left with the names on a Headstone. It depends on what the King Wanted to be done.
@sarahclaireclaire7586
@sarahclaireclaire7586 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering why there are no records at Westminster Abby🤔🤔🤔
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
Based on a documentary, all the historical documentation that English made throughout their history. And the English were prolific record keepers! (Thank God). And they are still digitizing those records. There are these like 6' wide, and thousands of feet long of vellum documentation! All kept in the Tower of London. That's why some of us can research our ancestors so far back in history. English diligence to record keeping. Right down to what a king's poop looked like day and night. I'm not joking!
@georginamannor4373
@georginamannor4373 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you say Mary the first?
@faisalatcha1783
@faisalatcha1783 Жыл бұрын
She's not particularly bright or maybe aiming these videos for children.
@Lulu-ut9pv
@Lulu-ut9pv Ай бұрын
I didn't realise that Elizabeth died 7 years before Henry 7, what if he remarried... Perhaps another "York heir" like Margret pole so their child... If a son could hold a strong claim,there could have been no Stuart's
@i.p.956
@i.p.956 Жыл бұрын
I have always wondered where the children have been buried. You read about these royal children who died too young but it's never said where they are and that's kind of sad. I know back in the day children were not considered that important until they became ready for marriage and child mortality was so high, people didn't really mourn as much but it's still so sad when you hear of a baby or a 2-year-old that has died. It's even more sad that their tombs are gone and basically lost in time. Even if we find their bones today, we would never know who they are and they will just be nameless.
@roberttelarket4934
@roberttelarket4934 Жыл бұрын
I’m very interested in the children who were forbidden from being spoken to as an experiment to determine what language they would speak!
@chrisoulalakkas7401
@chrisoulalakkas7401 Жыл бұрын
Give yourself permission to walk away from anything that gives you bad vibes.
@jaquelinexavier1843
@jaquelinexavier1843 Жыл бұрын
Certa vez eu vi um vídeo onde dizia que a princesa Daiana era descendente desses Tudor é verdade?
@maryblushes7189
@maryblushes7189 Жыл бұрын
It has always been my inderstanding that the word "bloody" is considered a bad word in England.
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
I've been told that it was an insult reference to the Catholic emblem of Christ on the Cross. I can't prove that though. Except, I think its possible "bloody" came from referencing to Mary Tudor I, "Bloody Mary" because of her ordering those who would not support her mother's marriage, to torture and burning at the stake. It was all for revenge, not something righteous. I think the word "bloody" the Brits like to use pertains to Bloody Mary or something older.
@KhaosProtogoneia
@KhaosProtogoneia Жыл бұрын
I'm English (born and raised) and the word "bloody" is used to express anger, annoyance, or shock, or simply for emphasis. Mostly emphasis, annoyance and anger.
@angr3819
@angr3819 Жыл бұрын
It depends on context. Although it is often used as a swear word, in its proper context it simply means bloody. Such as "I stumped my toe and it is bloody now". "I stumped my bloody toe" would likely be using the word as an obscenity about the toe, that might not be bloody. Bloody Mary was her nickname because she had so many people, non Catholics, put to death in a quite short reign. Elizabeth might have had as many put to death but over a great many more years.
@id5girl
@id5girl Жыл бұрын
Not Queen Bloody Mary lol just Bloody Mary. Well-known that she was a Queen.
@nazlsenay7312
@nazlsenay7312 Жыл бұрын
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@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
My DNA profile has connected my ancestors coming from Mary Boleyn, Queen Anne's sister. Two of her children are believed to be Henry VIII. To prove this claim, descendants appealed to Elizabeth II, but she quashed these attempts, citing, "the results would not be in GB's best interest." Then there's the suspicion amongst historians that Elizabeth I may have had as many as 5. Two, believed to have been adopted by Sir Nicholas Bacon and his 2nd wife.
@conclavecabal.h0rriphic
@conclavecabal.h0rriphic Жыл бұрын
There's no wayyyyy Elizabeth I could have covered up one pregnancy- let alone 5. No "historian" that's actually studied European history would believe that.
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
@@conclavecabal.h0rriphic This is issue is a dispute between British Historians, revered Historians! Not just some hokispokis blurb on facebook. And it most certainly could have, based on historical documents that only specific historians are allowed by the Crown to have access to....now. Both historian sections agree, the documentation that there were at least "5" times Elizabeth I left, I think, where ever she held court, and 'retired' to one of her residents. She had like 5 or so, and stayed there each time, "9 mos" before returning to court. This is all documented! While residing in her residents, she did not receive just anybody. And she did this 5 times. Sir Nicholas Bacon's two sons with his 2nd wife, Elizabeth paid for their education, paid for their living expenses when they went abroad (mostly France), and upon their completion of their "professional student" lifestyles. Elizabeth I gave them both their own Manors that she owned....AND she arranged that they both received an annual stipend (I forget how much it was, 1000 pounds? I forget), and to receive that stipend until their death. Nobody else in Elizabeth I's life received such generosity. Curious.....not to mention, that my Grandpa Nicholas Bacon adopted those boys, because his 2nd wife was barren...according to family story. Ever compared their sons portraits with Robert Dudley's? Curious. btw, Grandpa Bacon has been proven through dna connection...thru his 1st wife's children.
@mjean6762
@mjean6762 Жыл бұрын
@@MeagainIA2011 can you provide any evidence of who these revered historians, that so debate this, are?
@i.p.956
@i.p.956 Жыл бұрын
@@conclavecabal.h0rriphic I agree. People would have began to gossip if the Queen hid away for 4-5 months until she gave birth 5 times. Back in those days the monarch not being seen for days or weeks was cause of concern because people began to gossip he/she has died or is gravely ill which is a breeding ground for conspiracies and plots to overthrow them. So imagine the Queen disappearing for 4-5 months and her belly growing. Her servants would have spilled the beans that she gave birth 5 times, regardless of how loyal they were to her. One pregnancy - maybe, highly likely if she had sex with Dudley like some gossip of the time claims. But 5, I doubt it.
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
@@mjean6762 That's whats wrong with people today. They don't want to do anything to research for themselves. Its just plain laziness. Investigate it! And remember, these are "debated" by English historians and college professors. Which doesn't make my comments erroneous, but a bit more informed to make my own conclusions. Lastly: why did Queen Elizabeth II deny access to get dna samples from Henry VIII, and others? LOOK IT UP!
@rebeccabriggs5839
@rebeccabriggs5839 Жыл бұрын
I apologize before hand. It was proven Queen Elizabeth did fall in love and actually got pregnant. But he was a married man and unfortunately she loat that child. His wife actually survive a horrible fall and there was speculation he did it. But her advisors told her not to marry him. Hence why she became bitter and never got married and never had children. I'm sorry again I'm just a histor buff and actually have respect for Queen Elizabeth. She ruled her country without out a man called king. He would have taken over her country
@hjahansouz
@hjahansouz Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! I wish you did not call Mary “Bloody Mary”. Thank you,
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
not a handle that any of us gave her, her citizens penned that nickname, and it was meant to be insulting. We are simply telling a bit of history.
@faisalatcha1783
@faisalatcha1783 Жыл бұрын
@@MeagainIA2011 You can still refer to her as Queen Mary I ? Or are you reading to 7 year old children?
@MeagainIA2011
@MeagainIA2011 Жыл бұрын
@@faisalatcha1783 I'm not the one who called her "Bloody Mary Queen of England"........but "Bloody Mary" WAS a nickname given her by English persons!
@faisalatcha1783
@faisalatcha1783 Жыл бұрын
@@MeagainIA2011 by "English Persons" - Do you call Elizabeth a cousin murderer? Or Henry the 8th a sociopath wife murderer? No you don't! Save "nicknames" for children, this is meant to be a more sophisticated account, which it clearly isn't with it's blatant amateur vocab!!
@tiffanyrennie4768
@tiffanyrennie4768 Жыл бұрын
She was known as that, get over it
@christianfreedom-seeker934
@christianfreedom-seeker934 Жыл бұрын
Missing children? Well let's just say that for political reasons a stillborn child might be buried in secret but "exists" as a "paper royal" as long as the King or Queen needs them....that is my educated opinion.
@Chipoo88
@Chipoo88 Жыл бұрын
It’s Queen Mary I, if it’s Queen Elizabeth I. Showing bias only demonstrates a lack of maturity and deeper knowledge
@flanamom
@flanamom Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing.
@Syrenbeybei
@Syrenbeybei Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@lisasawyer5670
@lisasawyer5670 Жыл бұрын
Yes, enough with the Bloody Mary.
@KG-gg5pj
@KG-gg5pj Жыл бұрын
This has been commented on before. I don't think she bothers reading her viewers' comments.
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 Жыл бұрын
@@KG-gg5pj it is kind of an honor, as women could be as ruthless as a man.
@faisalatcha1783
@faisalatcha1783 Жыл бұрын
Do you refer to Henry 8th as a sociopath / wife murderer too? Since you're being literal about Mary I. Do you also refer to Elizabeth I as cousins torturer (for locking up Catherine and Mary Grey due to her insecurities) do you also refer to her as cousin murderer for executing MQS..and so on...
@emilypresleysee
@emilypresleysee Жыл бұрын
I'm curious why this bothers you so much... it's what she is known as. For good reason.
@ptolemyglenn79
@ptolemyglenn79 Жыл бұрын
You're sounding like a sociopath yourself.
@faisalatcha1783
@faisalatcha1783 Жыл бұрын
@@emilypresleysee it's not so much about bothering me..irrespective of what any monarch did..killed, usurped..this account is so amateurish she might aswell be preaching to 8 year old kids
@emilypresleysee
@emilypresleysee Жыл бұрын
@@faisalatcha1783 then might I suggest something I do myself when something gets under my skin; just don't watch any of their videos anymore. Not being a smart ass, being genuine. When I get there desire to make a negative comment, I usually catch myself, stop looking at whatever I'm looking at and move on to something else and write that account off entirely. Negative comments are almost always going to get negative engagement and only serve to further annoy you. It works for me the majority of the time. Much more peaceful.
@faisalatcha1783
@faisalatcha1783 Жыл бұрын
@@emilypresleysee oh believe me I don't. I watch credible accounts. All the best.
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 Жыл бұрын
Bloody Henry....henry vii was a nut too. Queen Mary proved a woman could rule. A women's name always gets dragged through the mud for acting like a man.
@BloodSweatandFears
@BloodSweatandFears Жыл бұрын
Killing over 280 innocent people because they disagreed with her is acting like a man? She earned the name.
@lotfibouhedjeur
@lotfibouhedjeur Жыл бұрын
It's not entirely clear what happened to them after their death? Only god knows. Oh, wait, he doesn't exist...🤣
@CherokeeBird
@CherokeeBird 4 ай бұрын
Right. We all ended up here perfectly with no design. 😂
@jitaamesuluma9730
@jitaamesuluma9730 Жыл бұрын
Oh please very 7th, my ancestor , did not give a flying off about his children, other than Arthur, he had nothing to do with Henry till Arthur died, I descend from Margaret via James 1st and 6th,he barely saw them , he was cold and heartless by all accounts, not caring one but his daughter Margaret , he married her off to one Scottish royal after another all in the attempt to get Scotland too for his family to rule, same reason Mary was married to the king of france, Margaret had no relationship with her father, but Henry 8th loved her, the grew up together isolated from him , it would have remained so if Arthur had not died, his children were just spend for his ambitions and his wife just their producer , Elizabeth of York my ancestor making me Richard 3rd many times niece sadly I have a scoliosis thankfully not as bad as his , I forgive Henry 7th but his karma is his line is now only on a female line no more of his make line from him left, that's for having my uncle's murdered and blaming Richard, of that I am sure, Richard built hospitals and schools for the poor Henry have them to the church to stop the poor having an education, did not stop the health care mostly because the church kept the hospitals open to the poor , Henry was not a nice man , what he did to Richard post death proves it and the fact he perpetuated the lie is why no Tudor king now
@jitaamesuluma9730
@jitaamesuluma9730 Жыл бұрын
Auto correct is mental , I obviously typed it in English but it auto corrected it to gibberish
@jenniferroland350
@jenniferroland350 Жыл бұрын
I actually agree with much of what you said here. I think God punished the Tudors in ways as you have said…for obsessing of a male heir etc. Their female heirs proved to be just as brilliant and had they had the proper up bringing and balanced life, they likely would have continued the Tudor dynasty for many years, which surely it had the potential. But when you behead wives and future saints it catches up to you. So I’m curious, they say that Elizabeth Woodville, her mother and that family were in to witch craft and this cursed the Tudor line. I steer clear of anything like that and believe much of it to be bs but, I’ve actually learned through the church that spells and curses can be placed on a person and involve demons etc but is rare. IDK honestly. Just curious. Amazing that you have such deep history and able to follow your line. I know who my grandparents were (I live in NS Canada) and know one side immigrated from Brittany France and the other likely from England, to Newfoundland then to NS (Bungay is the Surname on that side) and they were all deceased when I was born.
@jenniferroland350
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My only reason to question Richard III is those boys in the tower. Or was that the work of his (Henry 7) mother Margaret Beaufort? I guess we can never know. But maybe there are family stories.
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