The Modern American Intolerance

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[@arkgaharandan5881]

vee, only fans models are not right wing, the guy was right and i say this as a libertarian who does not care.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

vee what is the point of the right winning elections if they only thing they conserve is israel and they bring in liberals to the right who are pro censorship, pro lgbtq, pro only fans, pro open borders and hb1 visas, what exactly are you winning? NOTHING, hooray we won, we do exactly the same thing the democrats are doing but slower and we put maga stickers on it, such a victory. "we are not getting back to the 90s are we? They are never coming back" No vee, they are not coming back, it was never real it was fake, it was promoted by the media and the right were in charge so we needed more free speech to stick it to them, thats it, the 90s are not coming back because the "your god isnt real" people who stood for logic and reason became "but my 72 different genders are". So all those free speech "logic and reason" atheist liberals were fake, they are racists too towards white people, so no the 90s are not coming back ever. We are NEVER going back to the 90s. I dont think poverty will fix this, south europe for example is woke and socialist. Personally i worry that we get another middle eastern war.

[@nonusbusinissus5632]

Vee this was kinda meaningless of a video. There are sperg tards everywhere, on both, all and any sides. This is what metokur was perpetually doing as well. Pick the lowest of the low hanging fruits of society and then drama about them, even though its a spectrum and you can literally go off on the other end as well where rightwingers are full blown pphile supporters. They DO exist. The question here should be: Whats the norm and what is tolerated by the rest of the group. I for one always stomp with both feet on the rightwingers who cannot live and let live. The pr0n preferences of other people is not your problem or concern m8. If they make it your concern then sure, have at it. But to randomly go at other people's profile and act like you are some sort of moral arbiter, nah my dude we had that s for the past 10+ years, ya either calm your tits or i will wrap them around your head for you.

[@PhilippKlatt]

The problem you observe is middle-class puritanisim. In any normal circumstances the middle class is the one who can complain the least. They have a good living can affort XYZ and can be happy. But th eone thing a good living can not give you is attention (mostly from their own social rank). Poor people get attention from everyone (mostly polititions who only need votes but give a fuck about poor people). Rich people get attention by buying expensiv stuff and showing it off. Therefore to get attention the middle-class invents purity rules which have to get followed and enforced on other. Add to it the US-american culture of attention whoring and celebrity woreship and you can guess the result.

[@signa8]

yeah Vee, these people you are speaking of are the same people I've been using "Woke Right" to describe. Maybe it's a bad term, but this these people are the people I mean when I say it, and it's the people I imagine when someone else says it.

[@evangelion243]

"Intolerance will not be tolerated at tolerance camp!" South Park. 😅

[@Nobleheart111]

I ask for tolerance when I am weak and you are strong, because that is in line with my values. I deny you tolerance when I am strong and you are weak, because that is also in line with my values.

[@Ceronia]

"deny you of my tolerance" - there i fixed it for you

[@ikept_the_jethryk2421]

The first part is "your values".

[@Dwd84]

2 sides of the same coin

[@ArachD206]

Based Dune quote.

[@HaggisMuncher-69-420]

Man, you really messed up that quote.

[@wesleywalker4162]

I don't hear anyone in America saying "It's a free country" anymore. People used to say it all the time when I was a kid. It was given that if it wasn't illegal, dangerous, or immoral, you were free to do whatever you want. We went from being a free country to a nanny state in just a few generations.

[@masteroutlaw100]

It still is a free country as well even if nobody acknowledges it. Facebook and twitter still aren’t the law no matter how much they wish they were.

[@mariuschirita187]

@masteroutlaw100...you must not know about the patriot act.

[@Xplora213]

Yay Marxism yay police state

[@awesomeferret]

In some ways, that's a you problem. If you truly believe what you said, then in some ways you really are part of the problem. I use the phrase at least a few times a year. You can too. The more people agree with you, the more people will accept that such a phrase has become archaic. The best way to keep a phrase alive is to use it whenever you can, not complain about it on KZbin.

[@thetapheonix]

The problem is people think being free means doing whatever they want. Immoral or otherwise doesn’t matter. People have the right to be assholes and they abuse the privilege. So F ‘em. People aren’t considerate or polite, hell they can’t even dress right to go out. People eat crap and dress like slobs. We aren’t a free country anymore because we tolerate BS from people. We aren’t a lazy, fat, silly society and quite frankly don’t deserve ‘freedom’ because we don’t have enough responsibility to be vigilant about it.

[@woahhbro2906]

The HOA in my parent's neighborhood won't allow you to have a pick up truck. It could be a $100,000 vehicle. Nope, can't have it. And the people who enforce the HOA are all old retirees with power trips. Our family had a picnic at the community center and one of the gestapo ran over and yelled at my cousin because her newborn baby's diaper was showing. Her words "get some pants on that thing!"....yeah.

[@uninspired000]

What about cyber trucks

[@HaggisMuncher-69-420]

And yet you didn't spin her jaw for referencing to your family member's child as a thing? That's very tolerant of you.

[@januarysson5633]

That’s the worst HOA story I’ve ever heard.

[@Xplora213]

If this actually happened to you, op, you failed badly. Such complaints must be met with aggressive warnings - this is no different to the police threatening you. It’s a show of force. A little kid in a diaper is not offensive to anyone. But interrupting my picnic and violating the memories of my family time is Ted kusinski levels of crazy. Respond in kind.

[@woahhbro2906]

@@Xplora213 My mom of all people (who is probably the kindest person on earth) got in the lady's face and tore into her. I wasn't in the immediate area when it happened or else I would have as well.

[@geogeer9911]

This is because we no longer desire The Truth, but want 'our truth' imposed.

[@bxntaiii]

Being considerate of others & tolerance is two different things. Tolerance has led us to many of the issues we’re dealing with today. We’ve been told to be tolerant of so much shit & if we disagree on something we’re called racists, bigots etc.

[@harby1337h4xx]

no the issue is the left is demanding acceptance. they want to control your thoughts not just your actions. tolerance means to tolerate that which you DO NOT like, and they want you to like it.

[@harby1337h4xx]

stop shadowbanning my replies reeee

[@dumm9714]

In the same vein they called a logical progression a slippery slope fallacy

[@Camiloken]

@@bxntaiii I think tolerance is not the problem. The problem lies on the “acceptance” part. You should not accept something you disagree with. Specially the now compelled acceptance and even compelled celebration of others ideas, cultures, religion, etc that you don’t agree or share.

[@DarkMiceFIN]

@@harby1337h4xx need to talk nicetalk only on KZbin.

[@vonvonvonvonvonvonvonvonvo7009]

Vee, what you are seeing is not a modern phenomenon, people have taken notice of this since the 1940's if not even earlier and have written books about it, and it isn't exclusive to suburbs either, it is something that exists in most of the US, and it is what can be called horizontal totalitarianism.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

People wrote books about a lot of make-believe things. Fact of the matter is, we're just not intersectional, and our loyalties are to our values, not figureheads, sides, or individuals. We are purely objectively just, and that is what made us great.

[@cidsapient7154]

@@DiogenesDworkinson You are just a toxic person.

[@cidsapient7154]

@@DiogenesDworkinson All of your comments are just contrarian nonsense. Buy a pet and take care of that instead. lol

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

@@cidsapient7154 you again? You got so triggered that you followed me to another thread? Quit defending the swamp, and quit cyber stalking. This isn't healthy.

[@wlaba272]

You shouldn't ask my wife or her female friends to comment on it because after that you would say that guy was gentle and moderate :D :D :D

[@timthompson468]

You’re seeking tolerance. What your missing is they’re for repressive tolerance. Marcuse’s essay is available on line, but the key is tolerate anything those who share our ideology do, including all forms of crime, but destroy those who don’t. 6:02

[@АндрейНеугодников-м6е]

Sounds like a great recipe to undermine a society for what purpose tho?

[@timthompson468]

@ That’s a very important question. The answer is complicated, but I’ll try to summarize. The modern Marxist espouse the need to destroy Western Civilization in order for the Marxist Utopia to arise. They believe Western Civilization makes the proletariat complacent, so they don’t have a strong enough revolutionary desire for the utopia Communism is supposed to bring. If they can either incarcerate, fine, silence or de-bank or otherwise weaken any opponents to their Marxist ideology, the path to utopia will be easier. Another facet of the plan is to allow criminals to roam free, so the citizenry will beg for more government protection from crime. This goes back to the Soviet Union as described by Solzhenitsyn. I think they’re focusing on the US because non-communist governments in Europe and Asia already lean socialist, and are propped up by the US to some degree. If they succeed in the US, the rest of the world will fall soon after. I’m reading “The Critical Turn in Education” and it documents their success in functionally destroying the US Education System in great detail starting in the early 1970s. Not everyone involve in this understands the plan. I’ve read that Lenin had a harsh term for people who support Marxism without understanding it, but I’d just call them dangerously ignorant.

[@ryu-kazuki]

My only issue with the topic of tolerance, especially when it comes to other people's property, is that it's not millennials or the younger generations telling people how their houses should look, or what they're allowed to have in their yard. HOAs are usually headed by retired boomers you have nothing better to do with their life than be busy bodies. I really don't care about other people's property if it doesn't affect mine. I don't care about the property value of where I live, I care about having walls and a roof. I'm not looking to make a profit off of where I live, I'm looking to have somewhere to keep me from being homeless.

[@RomanianTvee]

and you tell them to pike off if they do that. I don't understand the obsession with value when it creates places were nobody likes living in there or finds it incredibly frustrating. The internet is full of examples were in some neighberhoods people just buy the house to sell it later but have no intention living in there due to the HOA's ridiculous standards.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

​@@RomanianTveeExactly. We bought our house to live in, not to "flip" and sell. We don't have a HOA run by bored boomer busybodies (the bane of most HOAs) but as a neighborhood, we work together for things that benefit all of us. It's the complete opposite of the hellhole, fractionated neighborhood I was born in and escaped from, where no one and nothing was free from predation.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

i am of the opinion that we are not run by milenials but hippie boomers, eg during the eu elections they put some boomers dressed up in hippie clothes appealing to people telling them not to vote right wing. When the boomer generation is gone, things will change, but so far elon musk has disappointed as gen x goes. Zoomers are mega authoritarian though.

[@robertkeyes258]

@@zxyatiywariii8 My house is already worth 10x what I paid for it 5 years ago, some of that by my work and some of it is people fleeing horrible cities towards an idyllic small town.

[@Steve-ev6vx]

​@@RomanianTvee You don't buy a house in an HOA if you don't want to.

[@DrexHawkens]

We need to gate keep. If we don't we will be gate kept. Simple as, tolerance is for the weak.

[@robosoldier11]

Indeed tolerance has been conceptually abused too long. Now our state of affairs is terrible. So if a little more assertiveness helps correct stuff. Then let that be the case.

[@mikesavage8793]

Strong fences make good neighbours. And looking at the thumbnail, there's no fences between those houses meaning not good neighbours. No privacy either.

[@KurgerBing-p5i]

i miss the MW2 lobby and halo lobby days

[@GeneralProfessor]

Inquisitorial zealotry is a universal phenomenon and a universal problem. It isn't exclusive to any side or ideology. And it's probably the number 1 thing that should be gatekept on all levels, if any semblance of healthy anything is the goal.

[@gabrielclark1425]

Nah, it’s only a problem if it’s misguided, It’s the very same impulse that drives people to gatekeep immoral behavior. The problem is the false shepards that abuse peoples’s trust to twist them into sacrificial tools.

[@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p]

No what should be gatekept is this libertarian "tolerance" which has always just been a red carpet for marxists. No we shouldn't tolerate a chick with an OF pretending to be conservative or Christian. We shouldn't tolerate that at all

[@anom5389]

Exactly! Someone said i wasn’t right wing because I supported not censoring lewdness in video games. I lean right on 80% of issues but just because of this one instance Im “no longer right wing” according to this random commenter.

[@HaggisMuncher-69-420]

It's very strange that this is a hill you're willing to die on. Right wing is obviously not conservative anymore.

[@januarysson5633]

That’s what happens when the sports team mentality is applied to politics. 🏀 ⚽️ 🏈

[@thelordofcringe]

Thats called a right wing sjw and it's the real woke right

[@cidsapient7154]

I always ask people to define what they mean by right-wing. You not supporting what you think is over reaching regulation, is right in line with what I think is right-wing. I am right-wing because I believe in less regulation, if not almost none. The right will never be locked into just conservatism/traditionalism.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@cidsapient7154 Using the levers of the State to ban porn and keep anime uncensored is good, actually

[@player1enjoyer]

The "Live and Let Live" is no longer applicable in this time. You (the citizen) have to be involved at something somehow ALL THE TIME.

[@Xplora213]

Being involved was a Marxist lie specifically to waste the lives of the energetic youth. Adults don’t have time to protest and complain, they have things to do. Being involved wastes the time of the youth for the benefit of the machine, and they will stop when they get old. But the damage is done and they don’t get their time back. No refunds!!

[@awesomeferret]

That used to be a staple of liberal values, and now people who call themselves "liberals" in the USA are the most likely to be terrified of truly liberal values. Live and let live was a really good summary of liberalism only a few decades ago, and now the "conservatives" are the actual progressive liberals.

[@awesomeferret]

That used to be a staple of liberal values, and now people who call themselves "liberals" in the USA are the most likely to be terrified of truly liberal values. Live and let live was a really good summary of liberalism only a few decades ago, and now the "conservatives" are the actual progressive liberals.

[@awesomeferret]

That used to be a staple of liberal values, and now people who call themselves "liberals" in the USA are the most likely to be terrified of truly liberal values. Live and let live was a really good summary of liberalism only a few decades ago, and now the "conservatives" are the actual progressive liberals.

[@awesomeferret]

That used to be a staple of liberal values, and now people who call themselves "liberals" in the USA are the most likely to be terrified of truly liberal values. Live and let live was a really good summary of liberalism only a few decades ago, and now the "conservatives" are the actual progressive liberals.

[@NoahGooder]

Tolerance and consensus got us into this mess now we need to break up the mess.

[@Camiloken]

@@NoahGooder Tolerance is not consensus. Tolerance is nit accepting others, or sharing their values, but recognizing that you do not have the right to stop having those values, aka “tolerate” them.

[@odinsrensen7460]

@@Camiloken He did say "and". Not "Tolerance *is* consensus".

[@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p]

​@@CamilokenI don't tolerate them nor should I have to. Particularly in a Christian country with certain ideals

[@robertkeyes258]

I am an American, and live at the edge of a village which is surrounded by many miles of forest. The county is one of the least densely populated in the eastern US. People here stay out of one another's business. My neighbor smokes a lot of stinky weed, and the wind sometimes takes it into my yard. I don't complain. He is always running his lawn mower ad leaf blower. It annoys me I don't complain. I wish he wouldn't. The house across the road is in horrible shape - they torn down the attached barn 5 years ago and there's no proper siding, it's unpainted, and there's all sorts of junk in the back yard (old boats, wrecked van, broken appliances), and that REALLY bothers me. How much can you expect? I wish owner, who sells several properties around town, would sell this one and use the money to fix up his other ones. Oh, this guy also grows marijuana legally. I don't like the stuff, but it's legal. People here take care of one another though, if bad things happen we come together. All of the people I've mentioned either have had Trump signs on their lawn or have told me they supported him, as do most people in the town. The fellow who runs the bottle redemption center had a Harris/Walz sign up. I am surprised, but he's nice enough so I don't make an enemy of him. We don't have HOAs around here. I try to keep my house nice, but I need to put new shingles on the roof and the front porch is uneven, my front stairs need repair. Maybe others would like my house to be in better repair. When I have the money I'll fix it. I try to keep trash off of my property and those nearby. The main road runs by and so of course there's some litter. I pick it up not only on my property but also 1/2 mile in each direction up an down the main road. I know some other people do this but many do not. I see too many energy drink cans, what's going on there. Anyhow I think I understand - not everyone has to act the same. As long as things aren't a huge problem, don't make a big fuss about them. If you want change for the better, lead by example.

[@thetapheonix]

Im an American and live in a big city, one of the largest in the country. I generally stay out of people’s business because poking around can end up with very bad consequences but if someone is loud and I say something they’ll tell me to F off. Their dogs get out, shit on my yard with mountains of shit everywhere (not 1 or 2 times but constantly), they say to F off. Their dogs roam the neighborhood and they menace people (pit bulls). They say to F off. They have huge parties with hundreds of people on a Tuesday and you have work at 5am. Guess. What they tell you? HOAs are necessary because people aren’t considerate and don’t know how to act. They do it to themselves. Watch what happens in the city if you let a ‘lady’ cut in line at the grocery store because she has only 1 item and you have a cart. Watch her push through and bring in 3 carts with 5 kids from 4 different baby daddy’s paid for with food stamps and not even say thank you, or worse, complain you didn’t do it sooner and for that she acts like you OWE her. People suck, and if HOAs make their lives suck as much as they make my life suck I am 100% in favor of them.

[@thomgizziz]

Learn what a paragraph is.

[@dragonturtle2703]

No, poverty can absolutely throw fuel on the fire of extremism. Especially when you weren't extreme before.

[@cabnbeeschurgr]

Can confirm, went from being a progressive liberal in 2019 to a radical constitutionalist in 2021 due to my economic situation among other things. When proles start waking up shit gets wild

[@dragonturtle2703]

@ yep. When it gets really bad, people just start saying “do something” without even glancing at the contract they are signing. Btw, hope things have gotten better since.

[@АндрейНеугодников-м6е]

​@@cabnbeeschurgrit must have been terrible for you what caused the realisation?

[@cabnbeeschurgr]

@@АндрейНеугодников-м6е living in portland during the pandemic and summer of love

[@edmondgreen7970]

​@@dragonturtle2703and that's the EXACT moment commies wait for

[@meh2972]

Tolerance only has a specific bandwidth by definition, in engineering everything that exceeds it gets rejected.

[@alexkairis3927]

I call the HOA, the Homeowners Assholeciation

[@willythemailboy2]

They're the Head Obstructing Ass committee.

[@edmondgreen7970]

Living under one is a choice. I don't feel bad for the CHOICE other make. That's on you. Stop whining over the choices you make. Be an adult and deal with it.

[@willythemailboy2]

@@edmondgreen7970 In a lot of cities it's quite difficult to find a house that isn't included in one.

[@sveniusz]

Personally I think the 90s will come back, but not for another 65 years.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

maybe less than that if you hope on gen x doing it, but i doubt it, i dont think the 90s are ever coming back or the 2000s, i think the 30s and 40s and the 70s are gonna come back.

[@TheBayzent]

I agree. They will but not in my lifetime.

[@ReallyAwesomeBoy]

You are likely talking about the second digit, and that is indisputable. The culture will come back also, probably earlier. The children of the new moral busy bodies will grow up to be the new boomers, peace and love, and when they are fresh parents the 90s culture will be back.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

The 1890s?

[@JunkYardDawgGohan]

Its already back in the majority of places in the states, it's just with new absurdist hopeful strong aesthetics and culture, which I believe is actually truer to the spirt of the states.

[@Techgunius]

B.S. Ill take notes from my father and uncle who buys up property to flip it. People who live by the, live and let live philosophy in regards to their neighborhoods run into one of two problems; 1) The price of the area is driven down so low upper middle class people move in and drive the prices up. For the struggling family living there, they end up becoming misplaced or homelessness. 2) the place become so bad that you drive the price down to the point the people you dont want around you move in, causing crimes, forcing white flight, then when the dust settle devolopers move in to buy up your homes on the cheap; hence causing displacement and homelessness. As my father always says, the poor are keeping the poor poorer.

[@cassianopaulo1]

You are right, it’s the broken window all again. Leave one broken and soon you will have two, and then all of them will be broken.

[@cvangemon1307]

@@cassianopaulo1 My country doesn't have home owners associations and everything works just fine. If you're not exaggerating then it sounds like an American issue.

[@cassianopaulo1]

@@cvangemon1307 you have tagged the wrong person

[@Snakedude4life]

I mention horseshoe theory and people go crazy. Maybe that’s the point. 🎩 🐍 no step on snek🇺🇸🇭🇰

[@malicekerendu3574]

Like a horse high on ivermectin they scream "NAYYY!"

[@AMMAZZARE]

If you think they go crazy over the horseshoe theory, then you should try telling them about the bell curves theory.

[@SterileNeutrino]

And YT yanks the comment ... so ... ironic.

[@DrCruel]

It's not a horseshoe. It's the same damned Left fascist thing.

[@clareornias1120]

Replacement "theory" enters the chat.

[@CopperCooper420]

I live in the middle of the woods in the middle of nowhere down a one way dirt road. No HOA's here.

[@MrJointvmp]

You deserve what you tolerate...

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

You say multiple times "I'm not talking about everyone moron", but your video premise itself is about America culture. This is like the unarmed black people killed by police argument, they happen but statistically it doesn't actually happen

[@hcsnake122]

Imagine lecturing people about not being tolerant while living in a gated community..

[@viermidebutura]

you're the type of person who can't answer the "How would you feel if you didn't had breakfast today?" question

[@hcsnake122]

@@viermidebuturaOffended by my comment? Very intolerant of you

[@viermidebutura]

@@hcsnake122 proving my point again... hehe

[@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p]

Vee has always been a lefty libertarian but lately he's become really obvious with it. Same thing when he said it was no big if a chick got with like 20 randos

[@SterileNeutrino]

Wasn't there an X-Files episode where Fox Mulder goes undercover in the superbly kept and rule-based neighborhood but then unallowedwise plants a pink flamingo in the garden to make the evil come forth?

[@WardenWyrd]

Yes, there was some sort of black magic entity being used to eliminate any neighborhood residents who didn't follow the HOA rules. Entertaining episode.

[@edmondgreen7970]

Yep. Back when X-Files was good with self contained episodes. The season long stories SUCK

[@ORLY911]

"Solidarity" is one of the most dangerous spells ever cast by both left and right wing idealists. It works via coercion, which is the antithesis to a civil society. When I started seeing that word get popular in leftist discussions I got a bit worried, it's a word you use to justify atrocities.

[@louferrigno4712]

the constitution is normative. It only operates in times of peace and even in a totalitarian government you wouldnt notice in times of peace. Every time a crises happens the rules are either broken or a state of emergency is called which is a loophole that lets civil servants ignore the rules. It's in these exceptions to the rules democracy is bypassed and the real governance happens. it was always just window dressing. This is the first challenge to the liberal consensus since world war II and they immediately canceled freedom of speech. it's a joke.

[@ConsueloWubba]

The camps are coming.

[@temag_the_engi_man1756]

Rare L take from Vee. Common moral foundation is the basis of society. There is absolutely nothing wrong with segregating yourself from the broader group of people with mixed views and creating a "pure" living space. People deserve to live in an actual community where you have a sense of shared culture, morality and faith. I am all for the fragmentation of western countries.

[@ArachD206]

Could argue about the extent of it, but we definitely need some of that.

[@JohnDoe-cf8ho]

He has been having more of them lately because his coom brain won't accept that rampant degeneracy destroys civilizations

[@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p]

He's a lefty atheist libertarian and his entire ideology is basically postmodernism pretending to be about "liberty" when it's really just a red carpet for all our current problems

[@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p]

He also said it was no biggie if a girl got with like 20 random guys in another video. Hes now malding about an OF grifter being told she's a grifter

[@octapusxft]

Too many Americans seem to be getting a high out of preaching their virtue and expecting a standing ovation.

[@louferrigno4712]

it's a race issue but the media wont let us publicly state as such so it takes all these weird forms. The things the right points at as bad are the cultural practices that differ from European practices. Tribalism will always win.

[@octapusxft]

@@louferrigno4712 It is not related to races, it is the puritan culture that manifests both through conservatives and hypocritical "progressives"

[@louferrigno4712]

@@octapusxft nobody would be mad about immigrants if they were Swedish or German. They are mad about POCs coming in. Cope all you want.

[@michealturner9498]

One blessing of my life is never living within a HOA.

[@willythemailboy2]

They're the Head Obstructing Ass committee. Edit: responded to wrong comment but still applicable lol

[@edmondgreen7970]

It's not like people are forced to. They chose to then whine about how awful it is. Excuse me? What??? You mean you didn't do ANY research into HOAs and are now unhappy!? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!!

[@HappyNeuron-qu9sx]

Our tolerance is what got us in this problem.

[@ldmt1995]

We cannot become intolerant zealots like the woke people, tolerating people was not the problem, listening to obvious psychos and con artists was. The "p0rn destroys the Roman empire and my way of life" guy is an obvious psycho, if we don't want to become what the left became we need to tell those people to piss off.

[@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p]

Don't let that obvious fact get in the way of vee telling you to not tell other people what to do. most self aware postmodernist

[@maatoha9097]

Hey Vee! Have you seen J.K. Rowling blaming men and misogyny for the trans thing?

[@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT]

Ain't no way bruh are you serious

[@WardenWyrd]

Many years ago, she wrote on Twatter that all men are potential grapists. That's when I knew she was a lunatic. Haven't paid any attention to her since then.

[@nikkili8944]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised.

[@WardenWyrd]

Years ago she was posting on Xitter that all men are potential grapists, that's when I realized she was nuts and to ignore her opinions lol

[@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT]

@@nikkili8944 I wanna say I am but I'm not. However trans nonsense is 100% a product of feminism.

[@Mrcharrio]

Intolerance has always been there, and after years of watching it be promoted and cheered it's set in the psyche of online users especially on social media sites. The curtain has just lifted a little and the real human nature is coming out.

[@sellis2819]

you cant have tolerance if the gate is open. the gate on america is wide open and has a sign saying its a law free zone. your lucky you can live with the gate closed

[@TrickyNekro]

In one video, you probably described, the American (or better Anglosphere) puritanism, their cultural imperialism and why we in Europe didn't have yet a Trump phenomenon and copies of it have failed.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

We are not intersectional... We don't accept one evil to escape another.

[@cidsapient7154]

Because no one is as intelligent as OP. I wonder if he will grace us with the reason he used the word "intersectional." Or if he will just claim we are not intelligent enough to understand. LOL

[@yatarookayama8329]

Not sure what you mean , but Vee was 100% correct about the OF example !

[@JoTheVeteran]

The Easter European way: "It would be a shame if this and this happened to you.."

[@DeanAdventure]

"Intolerance" is a subjective word. You obviously know very little about how actual US Americans live and interact. Internet culture doesn't accurately reflect our true intrinsic nature.

[@nightowl9519]

You see V, we don't have any interest in tolerance because we see what results. We have no desire to tolerate evil.

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

Woe to you who call good "evil", and evil "good."

[@JohnPrepuce]

We Americans were "tolerant" for decades, nothing good came from it. Maybe things where Vee lives are utopia but it's not like that here. If you do not stand your ground, you get run over.

[@RomanianTvee]

@@JohnPrepuce When exactly did this culture of tolerance happened? If you missgendered someone or said a racist joke youd get fired.

[@Lost_Echo1]

They don't want tolerance, they want subservience.

[@JohnPrepuce]

@@RomanianTvee - We tolerated homos on TV, we tolerated single motherhood, we tolerated increasingly more foul language on television and radio, we tolerated millions of illegals coming over unchecked, we tolerated more and more of our rights to be taken from us by our government, we tolerated hatred and discrimination towards Christians, we tolerated institutional preference towards non-white people, the list goes on.

[@Alex_Plante]

My guess is that your only knowledge of this is from KZbin or TikTok or X videos. Remember that only the most extreme cases go viral.

[@leandrobenitez292]

people often say i am extremist about things such as shrinking government bureaucracy, abolishing taxes, purging censorship and derregulating the market. But I know that i'm simply not extremist enough and will never be no matter how slipery the slope on my acelerationist purity spiral. my goals are by themselves so noble that even infinte extremism for all eternity is still lacking

[@tiberius8390]

The issue I see currently with that whole "woke right" discussion is that classical liberal have been counted towards "the right" for years now, but they are not really right wing people. So what happens now is that actual right wing people and liberal "right wingers" have a disagreement... Actual right wingers want to have a moral high ground, just like the left claims to have. They want to ban certain things, they compel others to live a certain way. Classical liberals intrinsically think "you do you and I do me" (as long as it's not against the law)... basically live and let live.

[@RomanianTvee]

i think this is an accurate assessment

[@JamesF-v4x]

And liberalism is how we got to this no shame, no accountability society

[@kateshiningdeer3334]

​@@RomanianTvee My problem is, this "live and let live" idea only works if EVERYONE agrees to do so. As soon as ANY fundamentalist group decides you should follow their rules, we have a problem. This is what's happening in all the western democracies where they're butting up against Islamic fundamentalism. They think "Oh, live and let live", not realizing that the fundamentalists are not going to do that, but instead, will see your tolerance as weakness, and they now have a chance to gain a foothold before you even realize they're a threat. I'm not sure how to retain the liberal "live and let live", but ALSO not allow our cultural norms to get trampled. ESPECIALLY in the US, with our ideas of religious freedom. Any good ideas on that one?

[@bmardiney]

Liberals are not the same as “classical liberals”. Liberals are just leftist-lite. Libertarians are closer to what you’re talking about. Liberals are NPC sheep.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

Sorry, but it's time people realized that live and let live is how we got here. Because live and let live still leads to everything you currently don't like. They just were forcing an acceleration of it. It will always end with men saying they're women in your little girl's spaces, children being transitioned, people in fetish gear acting out their fetish in public, etc. What we've just experienced is our future. You just want to reach it, driving the speed limit instead of at 200 miles per hour. I don't want to ever reach it. People like you seem to think you can just roll the clock back a little and magically keep it in that position forever. You can't. The clock will always tick forward. Edit: You want the left out of everything but are going to complain about the conservatives trying to conserve the culture and way of life. Not being able to shame people for bad behaviors in the public square means we always end up right back here because there are no social norms, and the public square is just a place to get your rocks off. Liberalism will always lead to the Weimar Republic. Live and let live means PDF files also get to live out their desires. Just like love is love includes MAPs.

[@cadis4257]

Any organization thats not explicitly right wing will become left wing over time. This lack of tolerance didnt come about for no reason.

[@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p]

He's completely right. She's an actual whr. Videos like these remind me that you're actually a left leaning libertarian

[@MrKago1]

You think you know how bad HOA's are, but you don't. One can be started in your neighborhood without your consent or knowledge. There is no rhyme or reason to which homes are included. You have to get a lawyer to stop it. They often put leans on homes over frivalous issues, and yes, people have lost their homes to this. The courts will often side with the HOA by default, especially in liberal states.

[@TheBayzent]

Wth...I thought you had to sign them off.

[@robertkeyes258]

HOAs can't start unless it's a part of the conditions where you buy the property. There are government 'neighborhood rules' that can come into effect without your consent but these are easier to fight.

[@BCNeil]

HOAs for the most part are great. Nobody wants loud music at night, or someone's large dogs roaming the neighbourhood all night. But they get overly involved. I got a letter once, because someone saw me smoking weed.....at a park 1.2km away from our property. It's not a fineable offence, but they wanted to tell me anyways

[@rozoro4215]

Noise ordinances exist outsid of HOA's and people can receive fines for them even without living in one. No HOA's, are and will always be a garbage system that only serves to satisfy mini tyrants and grant a dopamine hit to busybodies who get off on exerting some degree of control over their fellow man.

[@RobzdaBlade]

3:00 I live in a housing co-op here in Canada, Ontario. Townhousing units. I mean. there's a group thing for mine as well. (Except I never show up to any meetings. I just leave everyone alone and mind my own business)

[@roquettothestars9751]

I`m soooo going forward to see The Spoon ripping you another hole with this video, lol.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

We proved we can't all get along. Why keep pretending otherwise? America FIRST means America FIRST. Period. I get why this doesn't fit your personal benefit, but you have a home. Go there, vee... Make it a nice place, and let us fix ours.

[@LordKarnage12345]

There are two big reason you see this line of thinking. Zero tolerance and attacking literally everything not aligning with their ideology has been very successful for the left. Why wouldn't you use tactics that work, especially when they have been used against you for decades? The second one is that a lot of these people are sheltered from the wild west of the internet. Especially the type of people who sperg over 2D porn, who would probably die if they went on something like 8chan back in 2018. They only know echo-chambers, so they never develop any tolerance.

[@marekkoodziejak1513]

90s were the best times in human history, at least for us from behind Iron Curtain - we had real unbashed freedoms! ...untill we joined NATO and UN, when regulations started to pile up so much that soon we'll have taxes depending on lungs volume, because of carbon dioxide...

[@eddobh]

About religious zealotry, there's a reason people call the woke a cult, specificaly. We knew the signs from before. Edit: about poverty, I don't know, Vee. The progressive left was very successful in seeding intolerance and division, and the reaction to them is banking on that too. A big economy crysis could lead the world to some not desirable outcomes like those from one hundred years ago.

[@lomaxionpeerixonez2022]

Like, worse than the dustpan of the 20-30s?

[@bionizard5480]

As a Zoomer that’s a libertarian (with some conservative values on immigration and border control.) I legit have learned to treat any other Zoomer as a radical of their ideology. I cannot exist with the lefties because anyone on this channel knows how anti gun and “leave me alone” I can be, and the right wing on how pro LGBT And drugs I am. So I have come to terms with two things. 1. You make your own side with an actual community of people with the same values, seems conservative but see my reasons on why I’m not one. 2. You CAN turn the other cheek in the form of tolerance, but the problem with the left/right wing is that they take any form of mercy and exploit it until your out of said community. Regardless my intent is the woods at this rate.

[@Astronopolis]

How can you be anti gun and libertarian at the same time

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

I don't give a damn about what other people think, they can freely exercise their own natural rights - so long as they don't try to take those rights from others.

[@bionizard5480]

@Astronopolis, my bad I mistyped, I’m anti drug laws. Dare I say we should legalize more drugs. I’m very pro gun and think that we should abolish all gun laws within reason.

[@Dionysus24779]

I would love to live in a gated community that values peace of mind and quietness, I have noisy neighbors and they are the bane of my existence. I also wish that mindset of "If you do this stupid thing that will bother me, I will do a stupid thing that bothers you" was more normalized.

[@octapusxft]

Social media made seeking conflict way too easy and way too safe. I do not think that Pandora's box can be closed

[@WinterSoldier7207]

>tells wife to not get chickens because it would piss the neighbors off >tells neighbor to not get chickens because it would piss him off Maybe you're the inconvenience here.

[@srcmaker9825]

Vee that Karen two houses down from me is still complaining about me because of my drones and I haven't flown any since we spoke that time...

[@CopperCooper420]

Just tell her those are alien orbs drones, not your problem.

[@radicalcentrist4990]

Did you use those drones to strike weddings?

[@22magnum68]

Humans had to struggle to survive every day for hundreds of thousands of yesrs. We hsve not yet evolved to handle success. That is why it never lasts.

[@jamoecw]

The pendulum swings from right to left, but social conflict breeds authoritarianism while harmony breeds liberalism. The harder the pendulum swings the further into authoritarianism we go, and the slower it swings the further into liberalism it goes.

[@K05H]

The overton window swung too far to one side and now it's swinging back the other way with force.

[@disenfranchised2.073]

To be tolerant of something in societal terms means that you disagree with it but are either trying to be nice or are too scared to stand up for your personal beliefs. From a strict definition, we tolerate something we otherwise don't like.

[@DarkMiceFIN]

Vee, you summed it perfectly in the end why someone is against the OF girl. OF culture is part of what took away the family unit.

[@markdimeo7060]

Is it intolerance when a politician from a party, that threatened the powers that be,is dissolved because he won the popular vote? Maybe you should clean up your own home before you criticize others.

[@johngrisham4097]

All these things and tolerance is common sense. At least for me, why not for everybody else? That question will never be answered, unfortunately. The human condition.

[@NevisYsbryd]

Because common sense is an oxymoron and tolerance is anything but an obvious logical conclusion because it is an obvious losing strategy.

[@monononny3974]

"If you get chickens I get pigeons" now that's an eastern european quote

[@harby1337h4xx]

I make a distinction between tolerance and acceptance. You have to live and let live, but you don't have to be happy about it, just know the alternative is worse.

[@gr33dl0cknein3]

I died at "I will get pidgeons, feed them laxatives and they will shit all over your house and car".

[@irishking2040]

🤣🤣🤣🤣God Vee I love your rants!!! Keep strong my man. :)

[@ShortbusMooner]

I would NEVER live in a community with an HOA.. 🤬

[@savevsdeath]

'Both sides!!!' I'll pass on this one. I sense a trash take coming.

[@tomeboaventura9054]

Pidgeon Laxative Blackmail is on another level

[@flanflanjp_]

Gatekeeping prostitutes is a low enough bar that it should be fine, but I get your point about having a broad tent

[@John_1-1_in_Japanese]

My thoughts every time I see some internet-rightist throw a fit over someone not being a complete ideological clone of themselves on the internet.

[@Dwd84]

Again 2 sides of the same coin.

[@WhyteVintageWine]

There is a difference between patience & tolerance.

[@yoink128ify]

I think Vee should make a compilation of Romanian sayings for us Westerners. He'd make a fortune!

[@roadrunner681]

You sound like bill Mauer wishing poverty on people

[@theclowninghasbegun3442]

The slippery slope is real, and people are traumatized

[@sloppyfloppy79]

I'm a rare American. Never voted. How many other Americans do you know that are in their late 30s who has never cast a vote, local or federal, their entire lives?

[@johnf7683]

You get what you vote for, or don't vote for.

[@sloppyfloppy79]

I wish that was true. My county voted Red and was so by tens of thousands of votes. If I voted blue, the outcome would still be red. If I voted red, same outcome. I figured this out in highschool after the 2000 election debacle with Florida and the Supreme Court ruling unfaithful electors to be constitutional (recently overturned)

[@Coconut-219]

"oh look, low societal trust and lack of accountability"

[@GFXCXZ]

"It collapses the roman empire" stoic and tradcath larpers were obnoxious before this. They're going to get so much worse.

[@killerkonnat]

5:27 "Seize the means of reproduction!"

[@kyubbikcat2281]

Home owner Association is neighborhood communism. And the double standards drive me insane.

[@RonWiki]

There's a curious overlap between the conservative stance on issues like porn and OnlyFans and modern feminist criticism. Religious conservatives often argue that these platforms promote lustful desires and view them as morally problematic. Meanwhile, feminists critique the 'male gaze' and the objectification of women, which, in turn, seems to alienate many men. Personally, I wish religious conservatives would reconsider their focus, move away from these similar talking points, and recognize that 'wokeness' might be the real issue at hand."

[@Unapologeticweeb]

as an atheïst libertarian that leans right i have been in this position on the right quite some times too

[@Phaeron123]

With freedom takes like this, his vtuber model should be a bald eagle.

[@figlego]

The problem is education in the US is terrible. Like I am fully aware that Elon and Vivek just care about the money but they had a point.

[@lainiwakura1776]

Good luck buying a new house in the housing tract without an HOA! HOAs were a mistake. Screw your property values.

[@awesomeferret]

How do you "tolerate" dogs on a leash? Is this a cultural difference thing? The way you said that sounds very strange to many (probably most) Americans. Here in the USA, you can be fined hundreds of dollars if your dog is NOT on a leash.

[@yatarookayama8329]

I disagree that more poverty would fix anything , could very much push people (on both sides) to more extreme views and even actions too !

[@IlmarBeekman]

Vee, while I agree with the problem of extremism, I disagree with the solution. Poverty and loneliness is what is causing the extremism in the youth. They need jobs and opportunity badly. Tolerance flows from contentment.

[@Ekdrink]

I’m so over being tolerant of the intolerant

[@MisterHades666]

Vee I have a question, what's the difference between the romanian accents? If there is any. Like Nothern, Southern, Eastern?

[@AscendantStoic]

You should check the recent research (in 2023) on the damage marijuana does to the brain, heavy cannabis use can lead to cognitive impairments. These include a decline in IQ, memory, and attention problems. another study highlighted that heavy cannabis use and cannabis use disorder (CUD) are associated with structural brain changes and altered brain connectivity.

[@bruceknee4941]

It makes sense if you look at it as a war mentality. If you as a soldier say yeah i was fine with every military op we did in the past but not THIS one, then you get punished or discharged from the service.

[@josephahner3031]

Lol, that mindset of you get chickens I get pigeons is alive and well in old school rural non HOA America.

[@marcob.1012]

1:00 Thats why i am living on the edge of the village in a clearing in the woods.😊