The Moment The Silent Hill 2 Remake Lost Me | Save Room

[@pixelcount350]

The moment you lost me

[@zachtaylor5312]

Your comment isn’t clever. Quite lazy actually.

[@anotherland2462]

@@zachtaylor5312 and now, an even more boring and lazy comment to follow up to your lazy and boring comment.

[@Yoshikiraa]

@@zachtaylor5312 shut up jit

[@doverdoze]

"trading the subtlety of y2k anxieties for trivial 4k tropes" is the most pretentiously "vapid and reductive" statement I've ever heard about a video game. Thats the moment i just ended the video (except to rewatch that part to make sure i heard that correctly lol)

[@Randomness4362]

I want whatever this guy is smoking to have these takes

[@frankaliberti]

It’s the typical Silent Hill 2 fan. The Kardashians of video games.

[@subzilver]

so after watching the entire video and hearing all your opinions about the remake, I ask myself why I wasted my time with this. Basically I disagree with everything you say, and I don't want to waste additional 20 minutes in explaining why. If I would be a subscriber I would unsubscribe your channel.

[@paulwoodford1984]

Ffs the game was mediocre and generic AF. Like any old over the shoulder game. have some standards dude

[@zachtaylor5312]

Stop being so dramatic. You must be one of those that have to announce they are unsubscribing, like anyone cares if you do.

[@DravenxEyeless]

@@paulwoodford1984 have an original opinion first

[@paulwoodford1984]

@@DravenxEyeless My opinion is just correct. the end

[@DravenxEyeless]

@@paulwoodford1984 sure buddy, opinions are "correct" because an opinion is a fact. Go, son

[@SilentSpica]

Ironically enough the only "jump scare" I got in the whole playthrough was the one in the bathroom. I didn't consider most of them as "jump scares"

[@CallingAllMadMen]

Right?! A light bulb going out is supposed to be a jump scare? 😅

[@bbyjohn11]

A one way door is also a jump scare 😅

[@jeramyguzman7271]

old man yells at cloud

[@Harilyn42]

i think you're just regurgitating old concerns without giving Blooper a chance. Myself, a lifelong SH fan, have massively enjoyed the game. The original will never be replaced. I dont consider these all as jump scares and the combat has be revitalised somehow as its a remake. i think they did a great job and you're being too harsh tbh.

[@Foxhound_Veteran]

The remake will never replace the original. Having played the original many times and replayed it recently just before the remake which I enjoyed enough to 100% trophy complete. Bloober has done a fresh re-imagining of a classic game. They also took care to frequently give give nods to the original. I think they tried to strike a balance adapting the game for modern gameplay keeping it exciting for new and old fans alike. They did this while still respecting the original game. Alot of the character conversations are almost word for word identical. Admittedly, I do think that especially the original voice actress of Maria had more impact in her voice deliveries. But I find the remake Maria has her moments aswell. All in all, the remake is good. One could make an argument, why Silent Hill 2 did not get a near 100% faithful remake like Metal Gear Solid 3 is getting. It keeps all videos identical and gameplay/environments are exactly the same. Then again, I think due to how Silent Hill 2 was produced. It does not lend itself as well as MGS3 for such a remake. Especially when the videos in Silent Hill 2 were pre-rendered and not generated all in-game engine. Just my take.

[@__cmo]

Is this really how you move through the world and art, or are you just being contrarian to try to stand out? Honestly hope its the latter otherwise it must be exhausting to be you

[@bigrigjoe5130]

I have to disagree about the menu. The inventory menu and loading screens every door are things about the original that are just dated It doesn't help immersion to have to repeatedly open a menu, it doesn't make the game scarier or help symbolism It was just hardware limitations

[@bbyjohn11]

@@bigrigjoe5130 switching between weapons isn’t instant either and that’s by intention. Fumbling between weapons in real time creates more suspense than menuing would.

[@frankaliberti]

It’s indeed an obsolete game. Bloober Team did a phenomenal job taking that flawed game with a lot of potential and making a masterpiece.

[@bigrigjoe5130]

@@frankaliberti Strong disagree OG SH2 is nto obsolete at all. It's a fantastic game and better than the Remake that took everything that made the OG Unique and smoothed it out into an absolutely generic experience "For the masses" Action combat and double the game length do nothing but hurt what SH2 was trying to do. I just don't agree that the inventory menu being slow and breaking game flow all the time was part of that.

[@deficientartist8396]

This video comes off as more of a personal problem with the devs and not a real review lmao, very disingenuous, poor coming from a "reviewer"

[@deficientartist8396]

Also the "review" just has outward lies lmao, what a fraud.

[@bbyjohn11]

Most of the jump scares are from the mannequin enemies. I wouldn’t say the game is built off jumps scares. Just that enemy is. If thats even the stance you want to take.

[@laurenz6760]

Very accurate take. I think they didn't even try to achieve the deam-like, uncanny and silent atmosphere of the original. I guess they wanted to create their own and "improved" vision, while appealing to the Tik Tok generation that looses excitement when there isn't a ton of action and things happening. Ironically these additions actually take away from the atmosphere and what made SH2 special.

[@TheExcarlos]

The game was good lol. Idk how a light bulb popping is considered a jumpscare for most. It added to the atmosphere if anything.

[@johnrodriguez7464]

you took that as a jump scare, its intention was to bring attention to the fact you were now outside in the dark. I agree with most of the other posts to where SH2 overall just missed the mark with you and youre leaning on what people tell you about SH vs actually knowing about it.

[@panik6274]

I hear you. I believe Bloober made a "better" game, but in turn made it a worse piece of art which loses a lot of what Silent Hill 2 is. i simply yearn for a master collection like rerelease of the first 3 Silent Hill games.

[@Yoshikiraa]

theres a reason why this video only has 1k views after a whole day

[@jeffmanning2195]

Game is fantastic. Considering this was supposed to be a flop your grasping at straws

[@ToonLoBro]

Nah this remake was peak. Idk wtf this bloke is on

[@Randomness4362]

this has to be ragebait I love the og as much as the next but this is the most pretentious smug take I have ever heard. I thought twitter was bad jeez.

[@the_judge5083]

I agree!

[@rishabh2982]

Blud think the "bulb exploding in a distance" used for creating atmosphere was a jump scare, smh. Media literacy in dust. Besides, most of the jump scares mentioned earlier in the video weren't just cheap jump scares. There was a purpose to them, which was to block the pathway.

[@vilewisher8786]

i think he's just too scared to play the game and too scared to admit it 🤣

[@babygiraffeman]

Maybe as they were wrapping the development the world was too static so they have to add all of these aspects to further pull you in, which makes it feel like artificial since it was completely absent. Back in the day our imaginations really did a lot of the heavy pulling so maybe they just didn't nail it just right. Friendly reminder that The Evil Within is completely competent series that has retroactively fallen back chad gameplay loops.

[@badmeister499]

Sorry mate Left A dislike, I loved playing silent hill 2 and 3 and the room when I was a kid and they will forever be part of my top games ever played. But you can’t say the remake was in any shape or form bad compared to the original. The remake was a masterpiece and the developers passion truly shows with call backs to the previous games.

[@vilewisher8786]

Man i think you might have the most unpopular opinion formed on this remake thus far. 😂 You can't expect a developer not to take certain liberties with a remake almost 25 years later. It's a different zeitgeist we're in entirely. It wasn't going to be the same copy and pasted game and we all knew that going in. Give it time and I'm sure the mod community will come up with a "static camera" mod or something. Idk, I was born in the mid-80s. Ive been a lifelong fan of SH and I think Bloober crushed it; Y2K has v little to do with that. 🤣 Your take on this though...it's like youre saying, "The game's not bad but...it's bad." It sounds like if it's not the carbon copy of the original then you have every reason to tear it apart and that's fine but, this whole video came off as nothing more to me than someone sweating super hard that the remake isn't the exact same game as the original created by Team Silent. I don't think you tried to give this game a chance. I don't even think you played it.

[@valentds]

this game doesn't even have chip jumpscares, resident game have way more. those are all gameplay jumpscares

[@jishwagent]

You really came at this game with a pre conceived mindset of the “original is better and how blooper even try and remake this game” everything you’re complaining about is still there, you just rolled your eyes because you didn’t even want to try and like this game. I promise everything you complain about is still there you just knew what to expect because you’ve played the original

[@icarusuzumaki1537]

There are genuine issues you could have raised like performance/optimization issues but you chose to cope.

[@frankaliberti]

The original is an obsolete game. Poor controls, bad acting, and a handful of fans triggered for 2 decades making up excuses for what was just another Resident Evil clone. Thank God Bloober Team saved this game from itself by taking what was a lot of potential and making it into a masterpiece.

[@CallingAllMadMen]

Play with aim reticle off and no ammo or health hud. Then you'll cry

[@LukaszR86]

Silent Hill Collection is playable (and in store) for XSX. You may not like it and it's ok. But stop pretinding it does not exists

[@panik6274]

Its hard to reccomend the HD collection when it is well known for being the worst way to play both Silent Hill 2 & 3. so quite frankly its hard not to pretend it doesn't exist.

[@ShigmaChannel]

Well i do pretend it doesn't exist. Hd collection is pure trash and should be Thanos snapped out of existence. Noone loses then.

[@LukaszR86]

@@ShigmaChannel Both of you guys tell me that: Am I only one here to care about facts here? . If you say HD Collection should be Thanos snapped out of existence it's your opinnion. You entitled to it. But statement that there was no way to play OG SH2 now its not statement of opinion. It's statement facts. And it's incorrect. Publiclly exspressed mind you. Do your guys opinion have a power to change material reality? And I mean actually changing it. Like if I stop writing this comment now and chack my games case would my physical copy of HD collection disintegrat now due to yours opinion?

[@caid13]

most INSANE hot take

[@CallingAllMadMen]

Hey, please don't tell your mom, but I'm your dad.

[@karolt4591]

Is this ragebait

[@drbastion6951]

Got time to nitpick why dont we see your remake of sh2

[@anotherland2462]

as much as i don't really agree about his take, i don't think he needs to make a game to have an opinion. are you a young kid or something?

[@drbastion6951]

@ no just a firm believer of putting your money where your mouth is

[@visualush4347]

dude these pseudo-intellectual silent hill 2 super fans annoy me beyond belief. so much nitpicking, I'm glad the remake wasn't made for you. all of the sound design moments you highlighted as cheap jumpscares aren't even necessarily there to be main scare events, they're supposed to just add to the atmosphere of the town being 'alive.' everyone playing this game with those same critiques went into it knowing they were going to hate it- with an unforgiving compare and contrast list that instantly took the remake to a failing grade with the absence of the fixed camera. "iTs NoT aTmOsPhErIc AnYmOrE!!!!!"

[@hotlinemiammary]

“Oh no my childhood” is what most of the video game commentary boils down to anymore.

[@anotherland2462]

almost like a woman that had a 10 chad once and now compares every single thing to that. these people are annoying.

[@cobloh861]

Those that we experienced the original Silent Hill 1 and 2 at its launch understand what he is talking about. It was truly a unique experience of horror. That feeling of James being a sloppy character, with limited resources to combat, just created the anxiety he is referring to. The remake is still an outstanding game, but I definitely agree that it feels now more action oriented and less physiological.

[@kujumz]

I’ve been here since the beginning too and I’m thrilled to have both. I think they did as great a job as possible but they aren’t Team Silent. bring on more I say.

[@crescent_moons]

"at its launch" sure, silent hill was revolutionizing the horror genre at that time. now it's 20+ years later and people have a different tolerance for horror and it needs to evolve with the times. i grew up with the games, was obsessed with them as a kid, but going back and playing them again i find myself desensitized towards them and more annoyed than anything at the "ear assault = scary" moments (which are rampant) and laughably easy combat. like being able to literally run circles around enemies in ogsh2 with the plank and taking them down in a few consecutive hits because they get stunlocked and don't retaliate. 2 and 3 are pretty bad for this. 1 is, ironically, maybe the scariest and "hardest" out of all of them. at least in remake they fight back and can get the drop on you, which is a lot scarier in my opinion! the horror genre has advanced a lot in this time and bloober team has done a great job of improving the game to modern standards. the original games are masterpieces for their time, but silent hill needs to do more than just rest on its laurels if it wants to come back and succeed. there's too many good games out there now.

[@90Cmart]

I’ve been here since the beginning on PS1. SH2 was my first PS2 game. I completely disagree that the game feels action oriented. I’ve actually been having trouble trying to get a new player into it because it plays so much slower than today’s action horror experiences

[@pm8rsh233]

I experienced both from launch and I don't understand their motivation or reasoning behind what they said here, other than "it's cool to hate on Bloober". You think you are speaking on the behalf of everyone who played it at launch, but you're projecting your own opinion onto others.

[@yanille4109]

Honestly, game studios just need to stop remaking games. Original fans will never be happy. Most of the people complaining about this game, or the resident evil reboots were children when they played the original games. You're a hollow husk of your former self, you will never enjoy things like you used to.

[@ashleighwillis8564]

Should there be less? Perhaps. However then we wouldn't have this gem that brings in new players and people into this franchise I've loved since being a kid. As long as a remake is about preservation and making it more, say, mechanically relevent and not rewriting preexisting story. Then they'll be great.

[@anotherland2462]

just don't buy em, they can keep making remakes if they want. who cares about the original fans, they had their time and their own experience when they were kids. let the new kids have theirs, gatekeeping with the "just need to stop remaking games" line, what a goon.

[@vilewisher8786]

See, Ive been a fan since the original SH in 1999 and I think the remake absolutely ruled. My bud's also been a lifelong fan and we cant shut up about how great it is! I think there's just a particular niche of people you're never going to satisfy. Not necessarily original fans, but just a certain ilk of people who have contrarian tendencies about everything that comes their way. This video feels like one of those times.

[@kirilparushev5385]

Man, are you so desperate to stand out as "the one with the unpopular opinion", that you would go ahead and make this joke of a review public? I would call this "nitpicking" if there was some truth to it, but there isn't. you basically wanted to find *something* to trash, couldn't find, and started making stuff up. The bulb going out - are you really reading this as a jump scare and not atmosphere setting? Becuase it is not supposed to startle you. The various walls/doors/cabinets falling over are also not supposed to startle you - it is supposed to block your way back and just indicate by a sound that something happened. Are you suggesting that there should be no sound when a wall collapses? This is the first of your videos that I watch, I just stumbled upon it. It will definitely be the last, though. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but in all honesty - I do not believe you trust your own words on this. I had to even switch accounts to able to comment here, which I almost never do, no matter how dumb the content. I would suggest you don't review games anymore. Rather, look for a facebook group of moms discussing how kids should avoid sugar like their lives depend on it. smh. Final words. I do believe Silent Hill has a weak spot and it is its combat system, which, at some points is really hard to control and I often lose my place among enemies in tight spaces. The 180 degree turn never helped me.

[@iamnaenaebaby]

who greenlit this lol

[@TheBlueLink3]

Are we really going to act like every little noise is a jumpscare? By this logic, all of the original games were full of jumpscares. Are we seriously going to pretend that the original SH2 wasn’t very easy? There is little friction and tension in the original. All of the enemies are easy to deal with. Going into a menu kills a lot of tension because you’re safe and can take your time. The remake has much, much more friction and tension just by being harder and making the combat more engaging. Even SH1 did a better job at this than SH2. There are some fair points in this video, like maybe SH2R has a bit too much action, and the originals should definitely still be made available to play on modern systems, but they’re buried under a mountain of nitpicks and a sheen coating of pretentiousness. Trying to make “blooberism” a thing is one of the most pretentious things I’ve seen in awhile. Ultimately, this video feels like a prime example of “old man yells at clouds”.

[@hy2707]

This is definitely NOT a good point, you still have time to delete this bro🙏💀

[@zombierevival591]

I think everyone is in titled to their own opinion, and this video might come off as a hot take. I agree with The Gamer on some things, but I don't agree with everything. I do think the new Silent Hill 2 is very much a remix/retelling of the original. I also think it is very Linear like when you crawl through a hole in the wall and something Collapses behind you. Or when Pyramid Head Chases you down a narrow hallway. I definitely agree with the jump scares and predictable enemy ambushes, I shot 1 of the Mannequin through a window at the Appartments that was hiding behind a shelf but Fully exposed in said window. I agree with the quick swapping of Weapons and Dodge mechanics making the game way easier. Made me think of Silent Hill Homecoming. I would end up shooting every enemy in the leg and then run up finish them with the metal pipe. I miss the fixed camera angles and how they force your Perspective like when you get the flash light its focused on the light to draw you in to investigate. And when you pick it up James make note that its his wifes clothes. In my opinion it made you game feel more cinematic, like each new place was a new scene in a movie. I also like how the original had James look at points of interest to clue you in to a hidden item. I think Bloober did a good job with the game, but I don't agree with all their changes. Like the first fight with the Lying Figure they move it to inside a house but high lighted the original fight in the boarded up tunnel. Or when they made a new boss fight area for Pyramid Head which was way bigger and not as cool when he leaves by going down the flooded stair way. I liked the original abstract Daddy boss fight room better. It was more other world like with its flesh walls and pistons moving in and out and was more telling of Angela's terrible relationships with her father. The new one was more of the run down Appartments. To me it just felt like they changed these things just to change them with little reason behind it. I really think this is one of those situations where you ether love it or hate it with very few on the fence about it.

[@ShigmaChannel]

You are going to get a lot of hate for this video for the sole reason most people really want a "Resident Silent Hills 2 Remake". I understand some of the thing you say, even if i liked the remake a lot. But as i can tell some stuff is inferior in the remake, many other things are way superior. It's a different take. My biggest gripe is the ammount of fighting you need now compared to the original. It's not scary, it's just annoying. The walk when exiting the hospital leading to the prison was too much, and didn't make that much sense at all. That's the part i hated most in this remake. It's so "not silent hill at all". But for example, the labyrinth got more interesting. The first part of the hotel is also amazing because its again lonely and, well, silent. But this time at least you don't get 200 enemies thrown at you. To me this is the sweet spot. Thing is, that kind of slow paced horror that we loved back then, isn't what people want now. I used to love Silent Hill and Fatal Frame for its own style and pace, but just look how niche Fatal Frame is now still (somewhat) using that formula. In the other hand i would take anyday what Bloober did VS Silent Hill being totally dead, or well, Downpour levels of "ugh".

[@Xsroa12345]

I thought the remake was pretty good, though by the end of the game I was pretty sick of the leg monster things ambushing me around damn near every corner. Overall I enjoyed it and would recommend it, although I prefer the original and would recommend that more to someone with the means to actually play it. (And as long as they are willing to put up with old game jank.)

[@luis_pifano]

The only jump scare here is the number of bots and inactive accounts subscribed to this channel

[@LyraHorrorz]

This is perhaps the most pretentious video I’ve ever seen.

[@Ovnwyr]

I don’t know, man, I’m a huge fan of the original, but the sequel was keeping me in tension from the start to the end. I don’t consider that tension as something that went “wrong” either. Even those screamers you mentioned, in my opinion, were appropriate 🤷‍♂️

[@ymh.smokespot]

1 minute 30 seconds in and I’m disliking the video and clicking off🤡

[@lucholaz4656]

Same, this guy is just criticizing for the sake of it. Everything down to the characters redesign make sense.

[@TheBroThatSurvived]

1.76 million subscribers, 1.9 thousand views, released a full day ago. I would feel worse for you if your take wasn't as contrarian as it gets.

[@Fractualized]

Delete this video lil bro

[@shatterpointgaming215]

Man you can really tell when someone is holding some kind of a grudge lol. Alot of what is said here comes down to personal taste and being easily startled and scared. The lightbulb pop is symbolic of you being out in the dark now.

[@refugesl8359]

3:39, the moment I stopped caring what your opinion was and realized that you have little to no concept of what horror is, at its core, thus making whatever interest I had in hearing you out moot. I don't think this video did what you hoped it would. 1.76 million subscribers, and in a day's time, you haven't even broken 100 likes. You still have time to take this down.

[@Ashroller22]

A lot of people tend to forget that this is a psychology

[@MrRAGE22]

Nobody cares about what you trash game journalists have to say

[@ebrahimalgaoud7660]

brother. you've really managed to yap for almost 19 minutes straight.

[@Jenartik]

the remake is hot dookie in a cold glass

[@josephbullaro4560]

I thought silent hill 2 on ps2 wasn't as good as the first game on ps1 and sold it as soon as I beat it. The part you drive a boat was so stupid and easy it should of just been a cut scene. This game is so overrated.

[@KA-mr1zi]

18 minutes 35 seconds you lost me. The most nit picky video.