The More HORRIBLE Crime Ive Seen

[@Dxstiny_2pretty]

As soon as I seen Shannon Gilbert’s picture, I immediately went into shock, this makes this case really depressing for the family because Shannon’s case was so sad. She was so young too at the age of 23. Her disappearance actually led to the discovery of the other victims at the beach ( the serial killer was caught earlier this year, it was everywhere). There’s also a movie about her case, it’s called “Lost Girls”, it may still be on Netflix.

[@Dxstiny_2pretty]

And imagine losing your sister to a serial killer then losing your mother to your other sister, that’s gotta be horrible.

[@kingkat_]

goddamn, words can't even begin to cover how tragic all this is. i wish nothing but peace for those still living, and those who were taken so senselessly. no doubt all the media attention made all their problems even worse than they had to be

[@clowneggion]

Kid never got to meet his aunt because of a serial killer, and then watched his dog be drowned and his grandmother brutalized by his own mother in the span of 6 months. What the fuck.

[@shayyman]

I feel so bad for the whole family. So much tragedy. I hope they at least found some peace now that their other sisters murderer was caught.

[@matcha_zuki5597]

Those kids are going to be so traumatised I feel so bad for them. They will need SO MUCH therapy.

[@RatfinksMethinks]

Hi, during the beginning of my psychosis struggle I also believed that television/music/media was speaking directly to me. I'm thankful I began seeking help the moment I realized I was losing touch with reality and even possibly going down a path that could lead to hurting myself or god forbid someone else... And it seems like her family was aware of her situation- constant welfare checks, updated on her mental state- this woman was likely offered help and denied it. But, it's harder still to make head or tail of, because someone with genuine psychosis does NOT BELIEVE they need help. I'm unsure what to make of this. What a hellish case. Please stay healthy and seek help the moment you think you might need it, at all. Stay safe guys.

[@gremlininblue2601]

Animal abuse/cruelty ALWAYS escalates to people. It needs to be criminalized and taken more seriously by the law. If it was, a lot of people who have suffered/lost their lives as well as more animals wouldn't have been murdered

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

Yeah it’s one of the biggest indicators of future crimes towards humans.

[@petalpotionsart]

Delusions are no joke. The smallest things can set them off, even something as small as the beep from a fire alarm.

[@GenX_files]

My sister went into psychosis for 3 years it's really hard to explain how convinced they are of their own reality and also how they can almost come and go in and out of it at times.. until my family went thru this i had zero idea of what it was like and how hard it is to get someone help who doesn't believe they need it. Can't say for sure this lady's legit but the things she's saying about the music and messages and the ways she's acting is crazy similar to my sisters brand of delusion

[@number1loser410]

Health insurance companies dont want to pay for treatment

[@Nathan-sh1zg]

deny defend depose and all that

[@FEKana]

Okay i know it was really stupid of them to let her wash her hands...but the Sargents reaction...was kind of priceless. You could tell she was holding back anger on that one.

[@Kaltagstar96]

It seems like everyone from the kids to the cops will need therapy after this case. I just feel so bad for everyone involved. Also, I've never been a cop, but what was that cop thinking just letting the killer wash her hands? You could tell by the sigh that she knew she fucked up.

[@CatherineNess-pl5lq]

As soon as I noticed that I was capable of this kind of activity I sought mental health help, and was later diagnosed with bipolar1. It's something that I have to be super mindful about because can I still spiral every few months and if I don't take my medication properly and/or allow my responsibilities to go to shit my behavior gets /super/ weird and ragey. Big problem is is that I totally get a high from the unwarranted anger/spite and burn bridges for fun. Those around me know to do a wellness check when I "stop making sense". I sometimes wonder what I would be like without the proper help.

[@jeffpienta4532]

Congrats on having that insight and seeking help. Not many can see those signs for themselves, or outright ignore them being pointed out from others. Im glad you have the proper social net in your life and I hope you have many years of happiness!

[@Hi_Its_Z]

Obligatory “nerd” comment: No hate, of course (and Pig was probably joking anyway), but some symptoms can be mistaken for schizophrenia. "Major depressive disorder with psychotic features" is a diagnosis, for example. Many diagnoses include psychoses: bipolar, schizophrenia, paranoid schizophrenia, catatonic schizophrenia, disorganized schizophrenia, residual schizophrenia, early-onset schizophrenia (childhood), childhood-onset schizophrenia, schizoaffective (bipolar), schizoaffective (depressive), schizoaffective (childhood), schizotypal, schizophreniform - That being said, she's definitely manipulating & doesn't seem to have schizophrenia or psychoses genuinely. 🧢

[@GribReport]

hi, actual schizophrenic here. This person did not seem incoherent. She fully manipulated the situation , and was not able to back up what the hallucinations were. In almost every type of schizophrenia, hallucinations this severe will cause intricate story building that even when incoherent is very vibrant and specific. To me it seems like she was having a blackout related to a regular mood disorder, rather than a neurodivergant psychosis.

[@anglepsycho]

Yeha, hearing her not be able to back up events was a lot more like blacking out than it was anything else. I mean kudos to the research, and granted there is a reason there are spectrums for disorders and mental illnesses, but this is a bizarre case of she lost it and her mind is scrambling.

[@PsychoPony1]

Hey OP, schizophrenic here. Out of the examples you provided, you can abbreviate all but one of those diagnoses as schizophrenia spectrum disorder. Every patient has a unique combination of positive/negative/disorganized symptoms that overlap between each subcategory, making the hardline distinction between subtypes effectively pointless. It also saves you from typing out a ton of words! As you correctly stated, bipolar can lead to psychosis. Extreme cases of depression, stress, heavy alcohol and drug use, and sleep deprivation can do so too. Cheers~💜

[@Hi_Its_Z]

@PsychoPony1 Thank you! :) 🫶

[@Jynxxx5]

I hope the kids are ok. Poor pups and mom..

[@attackinglizard3429]

I can't believe Eminem would make her do this

[@lbm3233]

People do get help before bad things happen. We don’t hear about the bad things cause they don’t happen. When a few people slip through the cracks, yes bad things can happen. We will never know the ratio of lives saved to lives lost.

[@perturbedpigeon333]

As someone with Schizoeffective (schizophrenia + mood disorder) the fact that people always point the finger towards schizophrenia as soon as someone is psychotic makes me roll my eyes lol. People with no mental illness whatsoever could have a psychotic break from stress, or even sepsis, ect. Most often than not, especially in my case, is the psychosis and/or delusion usually leads to the harm or death of the effected person. In saying that, this is fucked up and she should've sought help once she felt the slip.

[@ald7282]

yeah, i agree. one of my diagnoses is "brief psychotic disorder" because i had a one off episode triggered by my insomnia. been off the meds for that for years and have never had another one.

[@jennamaryjean]

holy crap. Lost Girls on Netflix is about this case I never thought I’d see the actual footage oh my god. Growing up on Long Island we always joked about the killer and he ended up being my ex’s neighbor

[@kingkat_]

"more horrible" heheh

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

So while that one chatter was right (not every person with psychotic symptoms has schizophrenia, I have psychotic symptoms due to severe ptsd, I’ve been tested for schizophrenia, I do not have it) this actually could be a case of schizophrenia. Or at least a schizoid disorder of some kind. She has a life long list of different symptoms that her family seems to know about well enough to know how to handle things when she starts going out of reality. So this wasn’t the first time. That does not make her inherently dangerous, very few psychotic people are actually purposefully dangerous to others. Most of us are more dangerous to ourselves than anyone else. But she has shown a violent streak. Psychotic people do not know what they’re doing when they’re in psychosis. It doesn’t excuse harmful actions, but it does explain it. They are not themselves during those times.

[@saltydinonuggies1841]

Other conditions that can have psychotic symptoms that aren’t schizophrenia: severe depression, bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, severe ptsd, the other psychotic disorders obviously, and a lot of other ones.

[@abbyearley9427]

Shannon Gilbert is one of the bodies found where the Gilgo Beach (Craig’s list killer) victims were dumped. She helped in her death with the finding of a serial killer and got him behind bars. So much tragedy. I wonder if this is the sister that got called by a potential suspect.

[@Luther_Luvin_Brad]

This entire situation was extremely sad. Also, shows that more should be done to make accommodations and treatment for mental health. I am disappointed though, that even with her family confirming she has a disorder and likely got worse from losing her sister, watchers and commenters are intentionally ignoring this and pushing that detail under the bed purely because they told about the dog. It’s really disingenuous And does more harm to the image of mentally troubled people.

[@Xxg0r3r4bb1txX]

26:17 “I don’t want them to see ME like this.” Says everything we need to know 😬 like what abt them seeing ur brutalized mom?!

[@Fr0stria]

Yes I caught that! I knew right then that she was almost definitely lying about the voices and manipulating the situation. I mean I was pretty certain before, but that sealed it for me.

[@moatsofdust3210]

This is crazy, I grew up like half hour down the road from this place. I used to drive through (and ride through as a kid) Ellenville, all the time. I've been to the Kingston hospital many times. Feels extra weird when it's in places you're familiar with.

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

The reason it wasn’t a first degree murder is because in New York its only considered first degree if the victim is “a police officer, peace officer, correctional employee, judge, or a criminal case witness.”

[@jeambeam3173]

The person bashing your metaphor was stupid. You can compare the justice system to a janitor without it being an insult to the janitors. A janitor being a janitor is them doing there job. Also pig the people that are part of the system are the system. There isnt a distinction between the too

[@sleepjay6615]

I think your right but not at the same time can you make that into like 1 sentences because i don't got much time

[@randomartz8417]

@@sleepjay6615just read faster

[@awt2024]

This seems more like a manic episode than just straight psychosis. Bipolar but one of the severe ones. There’s like 7-8 bipolar typea

[@olgaavramov5020]

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[@olgaavramov5020]

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[@jackmarshall3255]

The way her mom was treating her only for her to do that hit like a ton of bricks I’m like nooo come on the dog now the mom like I felt so bad for the people who saw her like that then the kids crying like that hit like a ton of bricks.

[@Lena-xt7jp]

the 180 i felt when she said "the dog" followed by pig saying "Poop sock"

[@vickster97]

Absolute devastation to absolute hilarity in a matter of seconds hahahaha

[@Cadhlasta1]

I would assume shes legit messed up. They mentioned some medication, I dont remember what the bame was, but in the beginning when the cops were talking to the sister, she said that Sarra has always had mental issues. Sarra also knows the name of the that one cop, Mike, I think? Like, she talks to him so casually, calling him into the room like hes a friend or relative or something. I think shes known for having mental issues in that area.

[@Annausagi2]

The kids crying broke me :(

[@Fr0stria]

The part that made me even more sad was that the kids likely have no idea why their mom is so upset and they are only crying in response to seeing her so devastated. She’s gonna have to try to explain this to them. What a nightmare.

[@Annausagi2]

​@@Fr0stria You took the words right out of my mouth. (I tried putting the same thought into words in my first comment, but my English failed me...) Not only their mom (obviously mostly her), but their grandma's husband, too. :( Seeing two of your adult family members in such distress and not being able to understand what's going on must feel terrifying.

[@highflybirdy851]

45:37 "Then they attack Eminem because I rap this way"

[@Cutthecamerasdeadass1899]

Imagine trying to get INFORMATION from a PSYCHO that's literally rambling and doesn't even know what she's talking about either....BOOK HER crazy ahh

[@karmatickenny]

This is absolutely heartbreaking ... nearly cried here almost twenty times. I really, really hope she gets the help she desperately needs.

[@adiandaniels6327]

There's nothing like watching someone critique the justice system when they clearly don't understand it, lol. What do you expect them to do? Lock her up for something she hasnt done yet? Lock her up cause she is crazy? Read the Bill of Rights and get your questions answered instead of blaming others, lol. Entertaining though i suppose, which is what you are here for, lol.

[@dropdeaddrawing]

I don’t know, perhaps don’t let someone in custody go that’s clearly a danger to herself and others? Just a once of common sense perhaps? I guess you wouldn’t like the taste of their boots if they had that though

[@adiandaniels6327]

@dropdeaddrawing The taste of their boots, lmao. Yea, yea. The only people who hate cops are criminals because, in reality, you don't hate them. You're afraid of them. Stay afriad, keeps the world a safer place.

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

39:22 why does this feel more like a skit than a genuine police force.

[@Snakeofwrath]

God those poor kids will never be the same after this

[@dantdfd8271]

All I need to say it’s not the cops fault she got out.. it’s the judge. Bc they do all the sentencing and stuff

[@Revealingstorm.]

I'm guessing that was supposed to say most on the title

[@fyrehawke]

Tatonka!

[@RagingButtafly23]

The demon was in there the whole time? Look at her eyes... Thats pure evil.

[@samanthajohnston9269]

Not sure what else the justice system could have done here. She was locked up and sent to a mental hospital. Unfortunately her mom bailed her out when she obviously shouldn't have. If she had made it back to court they might have done more. I think because her sisters high profile murder(LISK) and her moms involvement with the police and media in the years following contributed to outsiders overlooking her red flags to a certain extent.

[@Yacatagames]

Erm, actually… I think you meant “most”

[@heyysimone]

Im sorry, the 'what sock' ?!

[@Wendigo-Bait]

So wait- she did the murder with no pants on, then took the time to put pants on, BUT KEPT ON THE BLOODY PANTIES???? WHAT??

[@Imjustvibin-eq4wq]

I felt like leaving the room when she said Eminem was doing it.

[@michael____afton]

God pig, why did you make me watch thisss😭

[@matteovenuti]

the crime is the name of the video (the more horrible)

[@infiresnation7430]

No fr it hurt me to read that ngl 😅

[@Rose-yu9ll]

i can’t watch this one again because hearing about the dog ruined my day last time

[@neneninetails5803]

Oh fuck this was like 2 hours from where I live damn

[@Kittygrimm03]

1:53 why does she have to have my name ☹️ I want it back, she's not allowed to have it 😑

[@josephruiz3263]

How dare she hurt that dog

[@1WEareBUFO1]

20:19 i thought my house was dusty. Holy damn.

[@Cottontailart]

Look up what happened to her sister and the recently caught Rex heuermann the Gilmore beach serial killer

[@Cecil1213]

I just want to point out didn't sister confirm she was schizo??

[@Luther_Luvin_Brad]

I swore I heard her confirm it too. People in this comment section heard what happened with the dog and choose to intentionally ignore the discussions on her mental health and how losing her sister likely made it worse.

[@SlurringDragon]

the more huh lol

[@Phantomcuffs]

At the risk of sounding insensitive why is it that when people talk about they hear voices it’s never telling them to do anything good? Why is it always kill kill kill?

[@kolbythurlow2422]

first Stan and now Sarah.

[@sparkzyfulton5774]

Idk why he said oak beach. It was gilgo beach/ near jones beach long Island. Very near where id always spent my time and when i lived in Massapequa park. Then we moved and just a bit ago they finally caught the guy turned out to live only 1 block away from my old house.... i used to see him occasionally never spoken with him or nothing but seen him driving pass or walking up the train station platform where he went to work in the city on the lirr. Its crazy. Apparently they haven't actually found evidence enormously that he killed all of tbe escorts and girls but whats the chances of multiple killers or cereal killers all buryin bodies in same location? Possible absolute the woods there little preserve had atleast a few people murderd amd barried there and it was at lrast two people arrested for different ones and another one was a friend of my husband's whos friend got him killed but he got off by claiming self defense or something like that... i honestly don't remember the details but multiple people really hate the guy and say they just know it was more brutal than he claimed and all really want revenge but killing him won't make them feel better and they all know that 😢 just sucks when a horrible person does something horrible and gets away cause hes rich with a powerful daddy😢.. but point is within a 20 ish year span multiple people buried bodies there and so 🤷 its possible he only killed one or teo and theres someone or more people who did kill other girls and buried them very near where the long Island cereal killer did... its crossed my mind if some from there and the Massapequa reserve had connections from a killer or him himself with some of the bodies atleast. Crazy stopped being able to go to beach for while cause investigatetion there then a few years later they shut down the preserve or large portion atleast and dug up so much of it.

[@dantdfd8271]

Ok I have to say this but. If you still have a Christmas tree After January naaaa your bugging 😂

[@shortythekoala802]

Is the title messed up? Is it supposed to say the most instead of more?

[@benvarley2927]

She is insane!

[@camdintheslaya9427]

I made some pizza rolls

[@deathreconing2211]

I’m sorry but I’m confused why do you have a poop sock? I mean that’s a very odd saying so i’m a bit confused

[@greenmind924]

To poop in ofc

[@PinUpDeadDolly]

I don't cry usually at videos like this but I did over the dog. I don't understand how people can do these things especially in front of a child?! Ugh..❤️‍🩹

[@tristanjordan2709]

That's because the police's job is to solve crime, not prevent it.

[@sleepjay6615]

Mo i think thats both of there jobs its just we like to look at the bad ones but im probably going to start a agreement about this tbh

[@tristanjordan2709]

@sleepjay6615 They quite literally have no legal obligation to prevent a crime from taking place. To serve and protect is just their motto. It's not in their job description.

[@sleepjay6615]

Oh ok

[@ChezaWR]

I was hoping you'd react to this-!!!

[@7_beelzebub_7]

day RUINED

[@danbrit9848]

The system is bad because there are no good cops anymore...if there were good cops the system wouldent be broken...but wharers the cash in that the protected blue line gang needs a new boat for the boot eaters to bow to as i speed past....wake up ppl ...thats like saying this is a good car i mean i know the trans is locked up and engine has a hole in it but still perfect as a car....come on get more common sense

[@tristanjordan2709]

Treat the symptom, not the cause.

[@sleepjay6615]

Idk

[@AkielSarah]

🐷🐷🐷

[@selwing666]

I think she's faking it. Like that kid who kept saying he hears voices and weed make it go away. They all have the "i have a solution to make them stop" but don't apply them , and the threat to the kid is obviously another evidence to that

[@Ahalyx]

Wow I’ve never been this early

[@tristanjordan2709]

Don't buy a cheeseburger if you actually feel that way.

[@sleepjay6615]

I'll be a cheese burger whenever I want

[@tristanjordan2709]

​​@@sleepjay6615Cool, you don't care about the suffering of animals. That's my point.

[@0atslaughter]

I JUST LOST MY DOOOOOOG 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥💯💯

[@luffymurnstar9432]

700th like?

[@tristanjordan2709]

What is worse, being drowned in H2O or CO2?

[@sleepjay6615]

I mean what ever kills you faster and doesn't make you suffer the most i guess

[@tristanjordan2709]

@@sleepjay6615 Those aren't mutually exclusive, though.

[@sleepjay6615]

actually i choose h2o ill just deink it because its qter right?

[@randomartz8417]

If you drown in H2O, your reflex is to hold your breath as long as possible so CO2 builds up until your brain says “ we need to breathe” bc your having more CO2 but since you’re in H2O you’ll just suffocate from the H2O and the CO2 in your body. In other words, they can be the same thing.

[@tristanjordan2709]

I mean, it's only wrong because she didn't eat the animal, right? Not like people care about the suffering of animals in any other context.

[@the_hoppean8461]

No it’s wrong because it was a long cruel death. People typically don’t like animals being tortured. There’s a reason that “cage free” meat and dairy is a big industry or when people boycotted butterball when those videos resurfaced. people do in fact care about suffering of animals

[@tristanjordan2709]

@the_hoppean8461 You mean the cage-free meat where animals have their tails cut off and teeth or beaks pulled out to avoid cannibalization from the insanity of having intelligent social creatures forced together in mass to live in their own excrement or the inability to establish a proper pecking order?

[@tristanjordan2709]

@@the_hoppean8461 Cage-free just means that animals are locked together in sheds.

[@tristanjordan2709]

@@the_hoppean8461 My point is that people don't typically care about animals being tortured so long as they're fed a convenient narrative that suits their agenda and soothes their conscience, however well miss-placed in ignorance or deception.

[@tristanjordan2709]

@@the_hoppean8461 Are you referring to cage-free meat, where animals have their tails docked and teeth or beaks removed to prevent cannibalism caused by the stress and madness of crowding intelligent, social creatures into filthy conditions, unable to establish a proper pecking order?

[@greenmind924]

51 mins wheeew