The Mormon church in Canada: Where did more than $1 billion go? - The Fifth Estate

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The Fifth Estate

The Fifth Estate

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Our investigation reveals more than $1 billion raised by the Mormon church in Canada has been funnelled to the U.S. rather than going to charitable works in this country. We hear from former members in Canada and elsewhere who say concerns about how money is spent have led them to leave the church.
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OCTOBER 27, 2022
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@estherrodriguez546
@estherrodriguez546 Жыл бұрын
Once a religious entity claims tax exemption, there sh be 100% transparency, to dismiss any doubts and suspicion of fraud 🤷🏻‍♀️
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 Жыл бұрын
Jesus didn't even extoll the Temple. He said " I can destroy and raise it in 3 days". We re the temple Body of Christ.
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 Жыл бұрын
But... you don t want govt checking. Maybe a citizen s panel w random accountants. Not government!!!!
@janice8514
@janice8514 Жыл бұрын
@@jackiepowell7513 he didn't want money to be in the church, he tipped all of the tables over and got angry about it. I'm not sure of the book and verse.
@lisamaria661
@lisamaria661 Жыл бұрын
Do you realize that all churches have tax exemption?
@m.m145
@m.m145 Жыл бұрын
The reason is... because the government is to busy with their own fraud.
@crescentmoonchild4031
@crescentmoonchild4031 Жыл бұрын
Remember the story in the Bible where the rich man built bigger barns to hold his wealth instead of sharing with needy? He died that night not able to use his money. This reminds me the church is building bigger barns.
@rogerprince5925
@rogerprince5925 Жыл бұрын
remember the story of Joseph who was sold into Egypt and helped to prepare for 7 years of famine. the time is coming that the storage will be needed like never before. Also the church has been helping the bagger . the wealthy man you referred to is more like the government of today.
@johnhenry9456
@johnhenry9456 Жыл бұрын
Can you remind me of the Bible scripture that references bigger barns. Thanks.
@du131
@du131 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhenry9456 It is the parable of the rich fool. Luke 12: 16- 20
@HermicraftAddict
@HermicraftAddict Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for this. Hopefully you can do some sort of retirement fund.
@tboat8799
@tboat8799 Жыл бұрын
There's no corruption in the Mormon church that's why it's very rich
@gail9566
@gail9566 7 ай бұрын
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the largest single landowner in the United States, from huge ranching and orchard operations, to the SLC mall to luxury apartment buildings. When did God approve this?
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 10 күн бұрын
Um, when He made it in the first place? Tell us more about your theory of a god approving land holdings. Puh-leeze.
@tomtaylor3523
@tomtaylor3523 Жыл бұрын
A lot like Scientology, it's all about the money. Both of these churches should lose their tax free status. The leaders of this churches should be prosecuted and sent to prison.
@adamcraft9118
@adamcraft9118 Жыл бұрын
I’m not religious, but what is the difference between the Norman’s doing this and the Catholics?
@tomtaylor3523
@tomtaylor3523 Жыл бұрын
@@adamcraft9118 Catholics like the boys, Mormons like the young girls.
@bellalove3097
@bellalove3097 Жыл бұрын
@@tomtaylor3523 omgosh.....too funny!!!
@LanielPhoto
@LanielPhoto Жыл бұрын
@@adamcraft9118 -Study your history and you won't be so ignorant. Ever hear of all the "Hotel Dieu"s ? Or the Missions? Lot of bad, but even more good.
@OneMamaToAnother
@OneMamaToAnother 7 күн бұрын
One of the big differences between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and other religions is that it is a lay church. People volunteer thier time. Even the President of the church is not paid. He had a long career as a heart surgeon before joining the leadership. This allows for more money to be put into serving others. Things like the welfare system (ranches, orchards, processing plants), education (universities, online degrees, training & practicums) and of course humanitarian projects. The church gave over 1 billion to humanitarian aid in 2023 alone. The church covers overhead so 100% of donations go to the projects.
@ivonnaivie5689
@ivonnaivie5689 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was raised in the Mormon church and is (at this moment) sitting at a block away from downtown Salt Lake just blocks away from the LDS temple. I hope that something meaningful will come of this. I also think the church of Scientology and their tax exempt status should also be investigated by the IRS,
@MikelGCinema
@MikelGCinema Жыл бұрын
The Church of Scientology was investigated by the IRS but the results were supressed by political interests. As usual.
@EvelineNow
@EvelineNow Жыл бұрын
I guess all in the name of Jesus Wow!
@timmyjones1921
@timmyjones1921 11 ай бұрын
I was a member at Mormon Church in Cape Girardeau , Missouri The Mormon Church did not wrong to me . I left because of personal short comings of my own inner self I live in Minnesota and California now days when I'm not in Florida.
@biggzzify
@biggzzify 11 ай бұрын
all religions
@JHNative
@JHNative 9 ай бұрын
All Churches are meant to be tax exempt. There is a reason for this. If you tax a religious organization that violates the separation between Church and state and Churches will have every right to be involved (in every way) in politics. The wall of separation is tax exemption.
@brandysnaps9221
@brandysnaps9221 Жыл бұрын
“Best way to make money is to start your own church “, L.Ron Hubbard
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@lizajane1878
@lizajane1878 Жыл бұрын
Yup nailed it
@icanfartloud
@icanfartloud Жыл бұрын
@@lizajane1878 umm, best way is start your own counterfeit printing press.
@luckylock4191
@luckylock4191 Жыл бұрын
@@icanfartloud no, that would be illegal. Creating a fake religion is legal
@randibgood
@randibgood Жыл бұрын
​@@icanfartloud I think he was speaking in a "lawfully" way.
@janedoe247
@janedoe247 Жыл бұрын
Now THIS is well done!!!! Good for those who stood up and did something!!!
@anathiqinisile6379
@anathiqinisile6379 Жыл бұрын
There is NO story here. BYU subsidizes not only members' education but non-members as well. BYU tuition has been rated as having the greatest value for money compared to any US University(See BYU Pathway and make comparisons). Fast offerings(not tithing) is used for humanitarian project(note humanitarian). I also don't get how a social moral issue(sexuality) is intermixed with financial issues as proving fraud. How does that prove fraud! There is unfortunately no story nor sincerity in your documentary.
@SHARON.I
@SHARON.I 6 ай бұрын
​@@anathiqinisile6379😂😂😂
@LizaFergison
@LizaFergison 5 ай бұрын
@@anathiqinisile6379 You are conveniently ignoring the truth. Outside the U.S. the Mormon Church is haemorrhaging members. There is no longer a church where I live. I'm not surprised by the loss of members. The Church may have influence in the U.S., but it doesn't have any outside. It really is just a massive corporation that dabbles in religion.
@christinabeck9316
@christinabeck9316 3 ай бұрын
@@anathiqinisile6379so, how much is tuition? Very curious.
@danleda83
@danleda83 2 ай бұрын
​@@christinabeck9316Someone answer this youg lady! I wet to BYU in the 70s, a semester was about $650 then.
@susanmarr8833
@susanmarr8833 Жыл бұрын
Omg! As an ex Mormon. I am so glad to see the church be held to account. Perhaps a further expose on all its cult practices is in order.
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
As an ex Mormon, you don't know what you are talking about.
@user-jp6hp4qv7l
@user-jp6hp4qv7l 7 ай бұрын
@@raptman5425triggered much?
@SHARON.I
@SHARON.I 6 ай бұрын
​@@raptman5425😂guess you don't believe all the scandals happening in Utah right now😂
@giselemathews1511
@giselemathews1511 5 ай бұрын
You know the Church is truth. Don't deceive yourself. Comme home.
@SHARON.I
@SHARON.I 5 ай бұрын
@@giselemathews1511 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@selvinguzman845
@selvinguzman845 Жыл бұрын
No more loopholes, tax all churches and lower taxes for the people. Excellent report!
@scorp10fl53
@scorp10fl53 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@etherity
@etherity Жыл бұрын
Add all corporations, too. Their taxes need to be increased. Same with the rest of the wealth hoarders.
@xeero24
@xeero24 Жыл бұрын
Pretty racist to only tax churches but that’s totally the liberal way. There are seriously religious group funding terrorism but hey, diversity is our strength.
@bjwilliams
@bjwilliams Жыл бұрын
Not going to happen, separation of church and state. No one makes you give money to a church, your choice! The Unitarian Church accepts everyone, try them. No one is forced, church or no church..American freedom!!!🙄🤷‍♀️🌴
@scorp10fl53
@scorp10fl53 Жыл бұрын
@@bjwilliams Excuse me...but NOT taxing an organization such as a religious one is not separation of Church and State. It is, by it's declaration of exemption expressing favouritism towards religions. Any organization sustained by profit should be responsible for supporting the very people it serves. Paying back into the system as regulated by taxation is a responsibility all businesses share and religion hides behind it's cloak of spiritualism and tries to obfuscate it's profits. RC, LDS and nearly all faith-based religions build huge temples/churches/synagogues, shopping concourses, own planes and much real-estate. All of which from the proceeds of tithing. Apparently Mathew 21:12 applies only if it's not the church which profits from it. Otherwise it's ok...I see...do the words double-standards seem appropriate here. I think it does by geezus!
@paulfranklin4276
@paulfranklin4276 Жыл бұрын
All cults need to be held accountable
@traditionalgirl5585
@traditionalgirl5585 Жыл бұрын
Does that include the Covid Cult?
@thepreacher5934
@thepreacher5934 Жыл бұрын
Starting with the alphabet soup cult
@vivalaleta
@vivalaleta Жыл бұрын
How much do you know about the preposterous beginnings of the Mormon church? Religion is all nonsense but Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses are two of the silliest Xtian "sects".
@majafleur9646
@majafleur9646 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it's the JWs turn next.
@MrTikalvideo
@MrTikalvideo Жыл бұрын
I am from Central America, Guatemala, by the earthquake in 1976, the church built many houses all around the country. Plus food and another items. In Mexico for years almost every chapel in the 60s. and 70s Monday through Fridays was functioning as elementary schools!! I served as missionary in El Salvador for 2 years with other 26 friends how can't survive preaching for two years and the Church paid all the expenses. Many of my companions were able to graduate from BYU. Now I am in Florida surviving 9 hurricanes and see the massive help of the LDS Church to any individual without asking religious affiliation.
@maridonnasteinhaus355
@maridonnasteinhaus355 Жыл бұрын
So True
@eagledice2008
@eagledice2008 Жыл бұрын
It's a cult
@edpeaceofmind
@edpeaceofmind 7 ай бұрын
@@eagledice2008 Then all religions are cults by your definition.
@cevens2000
@cevens2000 4 ай бұрын
@@edpeaceofmindIf I have to pay the church or get my children food, I’ll be getting my children food.
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 2 ай бұрын
Okay glad it worked 4 u. You are 1 in a million
@AlexDeLarge2022
@AlexDeLarge2022 Жыл бұрын
That's where I know them from, knocking on my door. In the middle of a blizzard, outside Philadelphia, in 3' of snow, 2 young guys in suits are knocking on doors. I only let them in because I felt sorry for them out in this blizzard. An hour later, I was feeling sorry for me. Big mistake!
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 Жыл бұрын
You know when money becomes a requirement to obtain salvation, you might be in a Cult.
@kindafreexp1415
@kindafreexp1415 Жыл бұрын
"Salvation only costs 10% of your gross income. Now that's a crazy deal!"
@jat2505
@jat2505 Жыл бұрын
You know you might be too attached to money if it stops you from being more Christlike.
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
Never heard that salvation is attached to money, I think the LDS Church teaches that Salvation is available because of the Atonement of Jesus Christ.
@EarlofSedgewick
@EarlofSedgewick Жыл бұрын
​@@raptman5425 so the idea of atonement and how it fits into our lives and can improve our capacity to act forthrightly is really beneficial when the person has internalized that idea for him or her self. Whatever mistakes we have made are already atoned, so there is no need to hang onto them or feel debilitating shame. As an atheist, I can see the value in that lesson, and it largely parallels effective psychotherapy. But it doesn't have to be historically real, I don't need to pretend there's an afterlife, and I don't need to pay a lifetime tax in order to learn this. It seems like the Mormon church is massively overcharging for pretty common wisdom that has underpinned Western ideals for 2000 years.
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
@@EarlofSedgewick did you miss the part about paying tithing is voluntary.
@happytrails699
@happytrails699 Жыл бұрын
Deliver food to neighbors in need, where you can actually see where the money is going
@davisholman8149
@davisholman8149 Жыл бұрын
I left the Mormon Church after being an active member for half a century. The money part of it makes me gag. Little grandmas paying tithes yet having to eat ramen for weeks in order to do so. It appalling. I left after studying the real church history, and found out I was lied to my whole life. My life would have been totally different if I had not been brain washed.
@MariamMariam-ue7vz
@MariamMariam-ue7vz Жыл бұрын
@@davisholman8149 how were you lied to?
@srso4660
@srso4660 Жыл бұрын
@@MariamMariam-ue7vz find out for yourself, the CES letter is a good place to start.
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 Жыл бұрын
@@srso4660 "Letter For My Wife" is another.
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@janicem4382
@janicem4382 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for airing this program.
@OneMamaToAnother
@OneMamaToAnother Жыл бұрын
It's never been a secret that tithing money is used to supplement university education at BYU. I, as a Canadian, obtained my bachelor's from one of the smaller campuses and was often reminded that my low tuition was only due to the sacrifice and tithes of others. Tithing supplements the education of those from around the world who pay as little as $100 US per year to obtain a university degree (including housing, food, courses, and insurance). A large portion of the land owned is orchards, ranches, and farms in the US that provide food for the churches' welfare system. These items are shared with those both in Canada and around the world. I'm disappointed no mention of the bishops' storehouses in Canada not mentioned. Other land holdings included those for chapels, temples, university campuses, historical sites, family camping sites etc.
@KnuttyEntertainment
@KnuttyEntertainment Жыл бұрын
Precisely. This video is clearly biased and misleading.
@billcassidy2894
@billcassidy2894 Жыл бұрын
Not Mormon, but one of my close friends growing up was, and it's exactly that; she had to pay the fraction of the cost of a typical out of state college which made it affordable to her. I'm not a supporter of the church, however, I feel the documentary missed an opportunity to explain that.
@thepkism
@thepkism 7 ай бұрын
Hun… the math still ain’t mathing. It’s tax evasion and fraud.
@jonirnmomba4130
@jonirnmomba4130 8 күн бұрын
Once it’s filtered into BYU it can go anywhere without really having to report it further. Money laundering takes all shapes.
@gmac2327
@gmac2327 7 күн бұрын
Not Mormon, but an Australian tax payer. I hope the Australian government strips this whack job outfit of its tax deductible status sooner rather than later. Believe whatever bullshit you want, but I don’t want to help pay for it.
@TheRamnath007
@TheRamnath007 Жыл бұрын
Just walks the streets of Hamilton, Vancouver at 8 pm, you will know how much money is required for real charity. Homelessness, loneliness, drug addiction etc
@davisholman8149
@davisholman8149 Жыл бұрын
And the fact that horrible so called church has all that money, yet not willing to help needy Canadians, is sick.😡
@joannbowden6220
@joannbowden6220 Жыл бұрын
@@davisholman8149 happens all over the world sadly 🥲
@malkeitkaur3046
@malkeitkaur3046 Жыл бұрын
@@joannbowden6220 This is true happening every where all around the world.
@MsVictoria4ever
@MsVictoria4ever Жыл бұрын
I was denied using a bathroom at a gas station after travelling home from seeing my ill son by your people here in Canada!
@robertanstey5185
@robertanstey5185 Жыл бұрын
@@MsVictoria4ever I’m sorry that this happened to you. It is against the law for an establishment which sells food or beverages to refuse use of a washroom. You should report this to the provincial ministry of transportation.
@MinorGodX
@MinorGodX Жыл бұрын
This has eery similarities to Scientology schemes.
@dhix2388
@dhix2388 Жыл бұрын
schemes is a polite term
@davisholman8149
@davisholman8149 Жыл бұрын
Yes - all cults have similar characteristics. Scientology is quite a bit more ‘not typical’ - but from what I understand, Mormonism is bad enough.
@azarahwagner2749
@azarahwagner2749 Жыл бұрын
BINGO
@MinorGodX
@MinorGodX Жыл бұрын
@@dhix2388 True. I should have said "crimes."
@Maryfs1
@Maryfs1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@karldanger5150
@karldanger5150 Жыл бұрын
The LDS church is in fact a business. Period. Anyone that argues that is a church member. Hypocritical? Yes. 1. Owns shares in Coke yet frowns on drinking caffeine. 2. Owns shares in Budweiser yet forbids drinking alcohol. 3. Smoking, drinking, caffeine fueled drinks and chewing tobacco are all frowned upon YET selling it in mormon owned stores is ok, cause it's money.
@kerrybarrett7222
@kerrybarrett7222 3 ай бұрын
Idiocy
@SHARON.I
@SHARON.I 3 ай бұрын
Religion is hypocrisy
@uredskivid
@uredskivid 2 ай бұрын
Well DUDE the money is prolly in a mutual fund that the church cant separate out .
@cherylsibson2529
@cherylsibson2529 Жыл бұрын
Props to those that researched and acknowledged that the Canadian healthcare system was affected by this. What about churches on Maui?
@mitchmo
@mitchmo Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the leaders of this church sit face to face with Jesus and try to defend their actions.
@scrapshappen
@scrapshappen Жыл бұрын
Oh I can just see how hard JC would be flipping those tables...
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@justme-dm7sb
@justme-dm7sb Жыл бұрын
That will happen but it is not a spectators sport.
@RH33084
@RH33084 Жыл бұрын
Too bad Jesus didn't exist that's how he got you all
@shur7318
@shur7318 Жыл бұрын
That day will come for them
@geraldinesera8915
@geraldinesera8915 Жыл бұрын
I'm 73 yrs old, north of the 49th parallel. After more than 58 yrs of lds church membership, leadership and general service. After a temple marriage at 18 yrs I had a family of 6 children and 25 special needs foster children (over 35 yrs). I was the main breadwinner, and after asking leadership (after the church published PROCLAMATION TO THE FAMILY) if I could stop working outside the home (separate from foster care), I was told NO, stating my husband was disabled (while he was collecting a WCB pension). I have paid 10s of thousands in tithing. I am inactive in the church currently. But as a former development officer (fundraiser, journalist, nonprofit manager) I came to know the lds church was demonstrating financial fraud, I stopped paying tithing a number of yrs ago. I now pay out my tithing now to soup kitchens, homeless programs, and school breakfast programs. Thank you so much for offering this true programming content. My associate lds affiliates will say this program is an attempt to destroy the LDS goid name. WHY IS BEDNAR STANDING SIDEWAYS TO YOUR CAMERA, WITH HIS EYE LIDS SHUT FOR GOOD PORTIONS OF THE TIME????
@lloydmajeau3140
@lloydmajeau3140 Жыл бұрын
Do you believe that the misuse of tithing funds is a church issue or a corruption and leadership issue?
@sonobacci
@sonobacci Жыл бұрын
I can't stand Bednar and I wondered the same thing. I think he was talking to someone to his side so he was turned to face them. I think it was the lady who was asking him all the pres-scripted questions.
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 Жыл бұрын
@@lloydmajeau3140 I think it is a corruption and leadership issue but not on the ward or stake level. All money is sent to SLC and redistributed back to the wards to use. The bare minimums are given to run each auxiliary program within the church. In many congregations, one person's tithing donations for the entire year is more than what is returned to that ward to be used for a year's worth of budget. Where does the rest of the ward member's tithing money go? Multiply that by 1000's of wards and you can see there is a problem at the top level not at the local level.
@annengberg1748
@annengberg1748 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t you taking care of children in need be something the church should fund through tithing rather than make you pay on top of it..? Isn’t that the whole purpose of tithing in the first place..?
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 Жыл бұрын
@@annengberg1748 Or using tithing from the ward to pay for meals that are brought in to sick and elderly... but that is just an extra we are asked to do and if you question it you are reminded you made covenants in the temple that you would do it.
@sloopy5191
@sloopy5191 7 ай бұрын
Remove tax exempt status from ALL churches/cults. Edit: Leaving this cult was the smartest/best thing I've ever done for myself. No regrets here!
@gregmckenzie4315
@gregmckenzie4315 5 ай бұрын
We need a true separation between church and state. Tax-exempt status should not be given to any church (cult) that advocates and teaches doctrines that have no basis in fact or reality. We should defund all of these institutions by making them pay the same taxes as any other corporation. This is important at this point in time because we are facing a mass extinction event that is, in large part, the result of doctrines that define human beings as a privileged species that is above all other species and which is destined to rule, and dominate all other life forms. This view forms the basis of our culture and it is the product of predatory religious practices that are destroying the ecology upon which all of us depend.
@lenitaa7938
@lenitaa7938 5 ай бұрын
No, that would not be just nor right! Yes, remove the tax exemption from the church as in this video! You ought not paint all church denominations with the same brush! Remember, the accountant said he experienced the transparency in the other churches’ denominations accounting!? But not in the Mormon Church! My experience has been the complete budget transparency and much of the money went to the humanitarian causes! Many small churches barely have enough money to pay their basic bills!
@MeToo-py1tq
@MeToo-py1tq 5 ай бұрын
This is a freaking great documentary it is thorough concise and easy to follow! Good stuff !
@cindybates68
@cindybates68 4 ай бұрын
bot
@BGPOND30
@BGPOND30 4 ай бұрын
but we have known this for many many years its not no secret, just headhunters trying to make a name anyway it was all resolved and explained by the church and the governments.
@MeToo-py1tq
@MeToo-py1tq 4 ай бұрын
@@BGPOND30 Oh you mean no independent thinking required "When church leaders have spoken the thinking had already been done for you" okay got it! 😉
@SHARON.I
@SHARON.I 3 ай бұрын
@@MeToo-py1tq yep exactly! Follow the leader you don't have to think for yourself
@JHNative
@JHNative 3 ай бұрын
It's an anti-religion hit piece. It's highly one sided and not balanced and objective.
@polyglot6542
@polyglot6542 Жыл бұрын
A pastor of a church just bought a million dollar house and is my new neighbor. The other day I found out he has other 4 houses that are huge and expensive that he rents out. It surely pays to sell salvation!!
@jodsterf
@jodsterf Жыл бұрын
the LDS church doesn't have any pastors
@billfarley9167
@billfarley9167 Жыл бұрын
The pastor is only part of the problem. The biggest problem is the sheeples that support him.
@savannahsmiles1797
@savannahsmiles1797 Жыл бұрын
@@jodsterf comprehension issues dude?, he was saying a Pastor...not a Bishop, is his neighbor, and he is quite wealthy...
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Obama Mansion In Washington DC Mansion on Martha’s Vineyard Mansion in Honolulu
@Thats_all_she_wrote_Dear_John
@Thats_all_she_wrote_Dear_John 2 ай бұрын
The WORD states that many are in it for their own benefit.
@Deeplycloseted435
@Deeplycloseted435 Жыл бұрын
Its the oldest trick in the human book, selling nothing for profit. Remarkable.
@elisahamilton73
@elisahamilton73 Жыл бұрын
It really is
@Jeanikins
@Jeanikins Жыл бұрын
Selling salvation for profit in the same way that the Catholic Church did. Martin Luther exposed that.
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
Mormoncorp have sure perfected this scam….💰👍🏽💰.
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@kevinmorgan8534
@kevinmorgan8534 Жыл бұрын
And you'll be rewarded after you die! "There'll be pie in the sky in the sweet bye and bye!"🤣
@bobbenjy6426
@bobbenjy6426 Жыл бұрын
Excellent reporting and journalism. Bravo.
@bensonplaugh186
@bensonplaugh186 3 ай бұрын
Why does individual sexuality have to be a focus at an educational institution? The go there to learn or to promote sexual agendas? BYU is an educational institution of a church. If people don't want to abide by the policies of the institution, then don't go there. Period!!
@lawrenceokon4960
@lawrenceokon4960 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for this comment ❤
@bonniemcdermid7387
@bonniemcdermid7387 Жыл бұрын
My husband is from El Salvador, in Central America. We have known for years that the Mormon church is owner of one of the most valuable pieces of property there, a sprawling ranch on the shore of Lake Ilopango that is surrounded by high walls and is very secretive. You don't see the Church there open the gate to host activities for children or help the poor. The land just is in a state of holding. It would be worth many millions of dollars, that ranch, in my estimation.
@grandma27or8
@grandma27or8 Жыл бұрын
BonnieMcDermid. The church is really the first to respond to disasters in multiple areas of the world. The church is one of the few religions who believe in education for less developed countries and finance it for many. If you are blessed help others. The church emphasis is to love others and to help them.
@dpratt7777
@dpratt7777 Жыл бұрын
It is not wrong to invest in land and hold onto it. I wish I had more of it.
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 Жыл бұрын
@@dpratt7777 It is if the people who donated that money was going to charity.
@carsi7282
@carsi7282 Жыл бұрын
CIA visit often?
@sylviajonline
@sylviajonline Жыл бұрын
Yes that is also all true, and I'm also a member. I love my church!
@Anti_keeks
@Anti_keeks Жыл бұрын
I left this church a long time ago. My fam is deep into Mormon religion 6 generations. My siblings and I are the first to leave and not be controlled. I am spiritual 💫
@lmcdowell
@lmcdowell Жыл бұрын
It’s so good that you got out of this cult. Jesus loves you and desires that no one spend eternity without Him. “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me. “ John 14:6
@azarahwagner2749
@azarahwagner2749 Жыл бұрын
I left over 30 years ago and I have never felt better , good for you breaking toxic family choices . I am also a spiritual being 😊
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
How wonderful to hear…more power to you…👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I think you were looking for an out. I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@matthewhayes3142
@matthewhayes3142 Жыл бұрын
as a recovering catholic, welcome to living! life still sorta sucks, but at least it's on your terms, every bit of it! that's living your best life, mistakes and all!
@jacalynmiller
@jacalynmiller 2 ай бұрын
Did you know thousands of Latter-day Saint church members are enrolled in the "Pathway" degree-granting university program? I know a young man from the Philippines who's here in Canada working, still studying online with Pathway (as he could be doing at home too), and subsidized by the Church.... I'm happy my donations go to help him and others like him! This is a global world now folks, no borders to helping people!
@collydub1987
@collydub1987 Ай бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@michaelmathis4100
@michaelmathis4100 Жыл бұрын
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints, I can say that I give my money to this church with no doubt that it will be put to good use. Now, how many of you can say that about the governments you live under. The ex Mormons in the room have an ax to grind and it has little to do with money, and more to do with their pride. Jesus Christ is at the head of this church working through imperfect people, but non the less he is prevailing.
@FamLawJ.D.
@FamLawJ.D. 26 күн бұрын
You’re too cute! Please, whatever you do, do not get a better education! You’re doing great in your false equivalence there.
@erincarlson8901
@erincarlson8901 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Fifth Estate, for reporting on this. You are providing investigation on this that we can’t get in the U.S. As a former church member, I am grateful to you for telling members how their money is used.
@beckypetersen2680
@beckypetersen2680 Жыл бұрын
It's weird. I'm a Baptist and I learned when I was in my 20s that the Mormon church was the richest church in the world at the time. Why is this news? (I'm 60 now).
@korillotus2906
@korillotus2906 Жыл бұрын
@@beckypetersen2680 , the channeL is biased., in the I. N. C. kidnapping video the comment is off but here is not
@rohankurian5641
@rohankurian5641 Жыл бұрын
💪🇨🇦💪🇨🇦💪🇨🇦 thank you fifth estate...Now go get #jaundice pollivre and that other grifting cockroach deepak ff anand ... By the ways what is mpp @sylviajones hiding??? 🤔
@chellynn7052
@chellynn7052 Жыл бұрын
Im in the US. Do your research! On the victims...the actual origin of your religion....im so sorry you were involved in any of this. Prayers for you... And not Mormon ones.... As you see...their stock holdings are in US mostly.... Because US dollar is worth most....
@chellynn7052
@chellynn7052 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gILVfqF8jZtnocU
@jonathanberner5501
@jonathanberner5501 Жыл бұрын
Ex-Mormon here. There’s definitely lots to be concerned with including their financial practices. I don’t know that the BYU thing is a hidden conspiracy though. The church has been pretty open about that as long as I’ve been alive
@jeffcampbell2710
@jeffcampbell2710 Жыл бұрын
If you notice, at 7:50 he says one hundred ten million. It's almost one hundred ten thousand. It says on thousands. So, I'm not sure how accurate this is
@sheilatuano9633
@sheilatuano9633 Жыл бұрын
Our society is different. Even without religion or politics mixed into it, we do not hug and kiss for public display. It is nothing even related to homophobia. We respect other people’s private space and public sensibilities and it may also be perhaps, a mix of cultural beliefs and practices. Overwhelming affections that may have sexual intimacy variety are best done in private, and the best to display it is only with your partner in a room where nobody needs to witness it. Patting the shoulders briefly if he or she is a family or friend, or shaking hands to congratulate, smile, even bow down or acknowledging with nodding of head, waving, will just do fine in public.
@sineadmurtagh943
@sineadmurtagh943 Жыл бұрын
@@sheilatuano9633 how deeply sad. You describe a society without normal human warmth and open interactions. The picture you paint is of a deeply and unnaturally repressed society - with behaviour that must have required decades at least to condition. What has been done over many generations scares me.
@tiredlocke
@tiredlocke Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcampbell2710 Accounting reports regularly take off zeroes, presumably to make the numbers more readable. There would be a note on the page, indicating that the figures are shown in thousands (000s), and it should be read as if there are 3 more zeroes on it. This is pretty common and nothing nefarious.
@adaptercrash
@adaptercrash Жыл бұрын
It's really the church for people with disability, the def, sign language and other severe autism the good kind
@brianhearden459
@brianhearden459 Жыл бұрын
First class video.. very well done!
@gretamoney8017
@gretamoney8017 Жыл бұрын
LBGTQ issues has nothing to do with the topic of finances. Including the LBGTQ concerns makes the video appear to be a hit piece instead of a serious investigative video.
@tool4rage434
@tool4rage434 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts, as well. That's why I'd give it a 3/5.
@uncomplicatedi
@uncomplicatedi 9 ай бұрын
If you run a hate church and its defrauding its people and govts i consider that relevant since it shows anti-christ behavior in one area its easy to see that anti-christ behavior in financial dealings as well
@jorgealvarado7946
@jorgealvarado7946 Жыл бұрын
Props to those that search the truth and are able to get out. Not just in Mormonism, but in any religion/leader that deceives it’s people.
@JoyceHariyono
@JoyceHariyono Жыл бұрын
I don't see you moving out of the states.....isn't the whole government decieving you???
@michaelfrazier6279
@michaelfrazier6279 Жыл бұрын
5th
@rodchung173
@rodchung173 Жыл бұрын
Now do Pfizer. And Fauci. And Trudeau...
@luma6456
@luma6456 11 ай бұрын
When Initiated were gun use to force you ???
@stoptrudeau42
@stoptrudeau42 10 ай бұрын
​@@rodchung173 dont talk about blackface like that
@solomoncasilen841
@solomoncasilen841 Жыл бұрын
I am a member of the church and I've seen and heard a lot of different types of stories against the church. Nothing change since the beginning of the church in 1820. nothing change from the time of Jesus Christ from old testament. All i can say is; i will never forget my private prayers that are privately answered through unexpected feeling and power that i could never forget and deny that my faith in christ is real The gospel of Christ is offered to everyone but apparently not for everyone.
@alicewongham3541
@alicewongham3541 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! Finally a comment from a faithful disciple of Jesus Christ. I can only testify of the blessing from paying my tithing. So true about Gospel offered to everyone but not everyone will be ready and willing to accept it.
@samsteel2643
@samsteel2643 Жыл бұрын
Nothing's changed since the war in heaven. It's still going.
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 Жыл бұрын
Those testimony meeting are just peer pressure brain washing each other once a month. Used to observe how so many people struggled to met the standard while humiliating themselves trying to fit in with the herd. One of the most striking differences was just how indoctrinated the mormons west of the Mississippi were as compared to other regions....self generating illusion heavy in the rockies....
@moerelan1
@moerelan1 4 ай бұрын
Once a female colleague of mine told me that she has to work over time because she has to pay ? Much money to her church. And this person was not making enough for herself. When some one gives to charity ,it must be his/ her wish ,not forced to do so. That is in in simple word"cruelity.
@Doug-zl8nb
@Doug-zl8nb 2 ай бұрын
How people can keep getting sucked in and giving money? Most churches have a big yacht. Most churches or priests or pastors. Have a big house on your money a place in the caribbean
@donnadraper5495
@donnadraper5495 Жыл бұрын
You can get away with any crime you want if you become a pastor and open a church. Money flows freely.
@mark91345
@mark91345 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to seen some unbiased tax attorneys explaining the rationale behind the church's activities based on Canada's current tax laws. It may be that the church is following Canada's laws, regardless of whether the interviewees approve or not. This news report makes plenty of allegations of corruption, but where are the indictments from the Canadian or US governments? It's been two years since the "whistleblower guy" did his expose in the US, but I have read about no Federal lawsuits, no indictments, no IRS anything. Or what about the Canada Revenue Agency? Also, I read that "the Mormon Church has been accused of engaging in significant tax evasion in Australia", but accused by WHOM? As far as I can tell, the accusations come from journalists, but NOT the Australian government.
@TheYgds
@TheYgds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out.
@jodsterf
@jodsterf Жыл бұрын
i totally agree with you. and im disappointed with the investigative journalism that only told one biased side of a story without the proof or and evidence to support the inuendos
@joju1614
@joju1614 Жыл бұрын
Great insight
@deb9784
@deb9784 Жыл бұрын
Matthew 6:19-20 Lay Up Treasures in Heaven 19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal." It doesn't matter what the government says, right! But scripture is clear! Please consider this truth! 💜🙏💜
@craigdillabaugh710
@craigdillabaugh710 Жыл бұрын
@@jodsterf Well, in fairness this did include clips of church leader David Bednar speaking about church finances, while playing ominous music in the background.
@piva1358
@piva1358 Жыл бұрын
Thithing is optional always! If your church says otherwise, run 🏃‍♂️
@HermicraftAddict
@HermicraftAddict Жыл бұрын
Truth.
@kevinmorgan8534
@kevinmorgan8534 Жыл бұрын
It's an Old Testament law that doesn't apply to Christians.
@HermicraftAddict
@HermicraftAddict Жыл бұрын
@@kevinmorgan8534 I don't fully understand traditional Christianity. Can you explain, please?
@kudamapfumo9316
@kudamapfumo9316 Жыл бұрын
We are not under the law but under Christ . In Christ Jesus living in grace in the new testament there is no tithe. Paul Peter never took tithes. The only giving spoken of if from a willing cheerful heart offering from your heart.
@piva1358
@piva1358 Жыл бұрын
@@kudamapfumo9316 excellent explanation .
@dougrobertson7862
@dougrobertson7862 Жыл бұрын
From 1986 to 2019, I served in five bishoprics and two stake presidencies in Saskatchewan. Like any congregation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, one of our key responsibilities was to care for those in need. We were not perfect, but I was impressed with the leaders' and members' effectiveness. We used a structured and principled approach to: 1) serve and minister to individuals, families, and communities (including those who are not of our faith), 2) share our personal and Church resources with those in need, and 3) help others become self-reliant through education, employment, and managing their personal finances. We did our best to fulfill this complex, sensitive, and nuanced work and the Lord blessed us to help many people.
@danawinsor1380
@danawinsor1380 Жыл бұрын
Doug Robertson . . . I'm glad you posted your comment. I believe you and many of your fellow LDS church members are sincere and doing good for others.
@KarlMarxFanClub
@KarlMarxFanClub Жыл бұрын
Yeah. But your top brass run it like a business.
@pamelaturner3773
@pamelaturner3773 Жыл бұрын
@@danawinsor1380 I agree. Only takes a couple of bad seeds at the top to ruin the reputation of an organization or group. Diligence to protect the structure and reputation can only be protected if questions can be answered.
@steve75112
@steve75112 Жыл бұрын
cultist
@FamLawJ.D.
@FamLawJ.D. 26 күн бұрын
@@steve75112why be rude? He’s sharing his experience, which sounds wonderful. Isn’t that what we want for our fellow humans?
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 2 ай бұрын
You know when Money becomes the vital requirement for eternal salvation, you might be in a Cult.
@galedavis5595
@galedavis5595 27 күн бұрын
It is a cult. Joesph Smith was a crook and had to flee towns until he landed far enough west. Anyone that claims Jesus visited him in about 1830 in Missouri is a charlatan.
@stephaniet5712
@stephaniet5712 Жыл бұрын
The members of the Mormon church need to hear this. Truth and transparency. Well done Fifth Estate.
@Maryfs1
@Maryfs1 Жыл бұрын
Sadly their indoctrination trains them to ignore all criticisms as "anti-mormon lies", and most wont even look at this stuff.
@makamurphy
@makamurphy Жыл бұрын
I have, and it's a laugh... this will have no effect to the church or its members who join not because of tithing but because we know it is all true!
@SpartacusMA1
@SpartacusMA1 Жыл бұрын
@@makamurphy History is full of people who "know" the truth of something. This is why people call it a cult... what's so clear to people outside looking in, feels like persecution and lies to those inside looking out. It feels pretty comfy living in the bunker of blind belief.
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 Жыл бұрын
@@makamurphy Do you believe the earth is flat as well?
@jaflaf3201
@jaflaf3201 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've just converted - thanks to this. No more tithe money from me! Had enough of this.
@theLampSA
@theLampSA Жыл бұрын
Imagine how many millions of people could be helped if the church were really a church.
@elitestockpicks8212
@elitestockpicks8212 Жыл бұрын
I am not a mormon but I read the book of the Mormon and I know it is a testimony of God, just like many other holy writings.
@azarahwagner2749
@azarahwagner2749 Жыл бұрын
@@elitestockpicks8212 Are you a Qanon member ?
@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7
@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 Жыл бұрын
The whole world would be better of if the Reorganized Church ended up being the most popular one.
@Jeanikins
@Jeanikins Жыл бұрын
@@azarahwagner2749 No, she is a Mormon - just lying like the leaders do.
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@codydimmick8868
@codydimmick8868 Жыл бұрын
60,000 acres in Canada? Seriously, I think it would be more. Need to look at the ranches in the US too, and how their hired help are treated financially.
@garys.2291
@garys.2291 Жыл бұрын
Why are the top LDS ringleaders not in prison cells?
@Iamlearningtolove
@Iamlearningtolove Жыл бұрын
Wait. A. Minute. The church built a mall? A MALL!?! Are you kidding me!?! Be in the world, not of it...not be in the world and worship the god of it. This is unacceptable. God bless the brave men who are doing what's right over what's easiest or most profitable.
@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7
@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 Жыл бұрын
It gets way worse when you look at what Kirton McConkie is doing and how much tithing goes there. The mall is surprising the least horrible thing about this.
@DM-ed9os
@DM-ed9os Жыл бұрын
This story only just barely touches the surface of the real story of the church in the US. I see it every day in my profession.
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 Жыл бұрын
@@KaedeSmithOfTheKiller7 It use to be the Kirton McConkie and Poelman law firm. Have to search why the name changed.
@ChaChaDancin
@ChaChaDancin Жыл бұрын
It’s just what Jesus would want. “Go sell all you have, build a luxury shopping mall, and come follow me.”
@Iamlearningtolove
@Iamlearningtolove Жыл бұрын
@@ChaChaDancin I'm pretty sure I remember that verse too! 😆
@brycemoulton633
@brycemoulton633 Жыл бұрын
Very important piece of journalism. We demand financial transparency for any publicly-trade company. I expect the same for any organization exempt from taxes.
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
LDS Church voluntarily pays more tax than any other Church in North America. Take time to learn before pushing keys.
@a.walters123
@a.walters123 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. If you’re tax exempt, your entire financial history should be accessible to the public.
@71suns
@71suns Жыл бұрын
​@@raptman5425 According to whom?
@advocate7643
@advocate7643 8 ай бұрын
@@raptman5425 Source that
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 Жыл бұрын
"In every man sleeps a prophet, and when it wakes there is a little more evil in the world." - Emile M. Cioran
@Doug-zl8nb
@Doug-zl8nb 9 ай бұрын
How people get sucked in the church needs money your money lots of money
@sandrasarandon5670
@sandrasarandon5670 Жыл бұрын
Dear The Fifth Estate thank You for EXPOSING this .
@nikivalim5866
@nikivalim5866 Жыл бұрын
This thing is very usual here in Brazil, and the population has no way to stop it. Even the government donate to the church’s for publicity of the candidate in question, so so sad…
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
LOL, you joke.
@ivanoech
@ivanoech Жыл бұрын
Excelent investigatigate report. I hope this investigation brings positive results. There are many places where these millions can and should be espended medical resources to fight diseases, educationfor those who can afford to get superior education, to build affordable housigs , etc. Thanks
@donnwilliams9996
@donnwilliams9996 Жыл бұрын
The LDS church does provide medical assistance and doctors to areas in need, My Father volunteered to be a dentist in Guatamala in the 1970s. So yes, its done. Learn and study before you respond to the broadcast full of holes.
@rscott2247
@rscott2247 10 ай бұрын
Watching this about the Mormon church somehow reminds me of the Freemason's & the Roman Catholic church.
@hikswim500
@hikswim500 7 ай бұрын
It's really easy to be generous when you are allocating others funds. Remember it's always the other guy that's greedy. Never yourself.
@anitahuizing4219
@anitahuizing4219 Жыл бұрын
WOW, Very powerful! You have done a great job disclosing this material! Thankyou
@karenishness1
@karenishness1 Жыл бұрын
Where did $1 Billion go? How about the same place that the original records of births , deaths, and marriages went that never were returned or copied..............
@dickfitswell3437
@dickfitswell3437 Жыл бұрын
If you want to get rich quick don't start a business. Start a church...
@christinekisuule7685
@christinekisuule7685 Жыл бұрын
Facts🤣🤣🤣🤣
@annemarievanleeuwen9959
@annemarievanleeuwen9959 Жыл бұрын
True
@iam1smiley1
@iam1smiley1 Жыл бұрын
Yup! Seriously considering it 🤔
@vijayk.lyngdoh9580
@vijayk.lyngdoh9580 Жыл бұрын
Very true
@lisacharlton1813
@lisacharlton1813 6 ай бұрын
Scientology’s big brother !!
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
A recent news article said five homeless people froze to death right outside their Salt Lake City headquarters.
@Yunginspirit
@Yunginspirit Жыл бұрын
It did not happen!
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
@@Yunginspirit Yes it did. Read up.
@spartacusall
@spartacusall 2 ай бұрын
14,000 transient homeless per year are offered a chance to can food at Welfare Square and receive groceries and a housing stipend. 80% are willing to do whatever their bodies allow, 20% just don’t want to do anything including light service hours. A welfare/workfare plan is capitalized by fast offerings not tithing. Same with ranches for growing food. This reporter knows that and not once declared the two separate funds purposes. Hmmm
@ahorsenamedcelty9505
@ahorsenamedcelty9505 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I often went hungry because my mom paid tithing. The church would "help" us by giving us boxes of canned beans and corn that expired five years earlier.
@marlenemcmillan8891
@marlenemcmillan8891 Жыл бұрын
Disgusting
@FantasticMoron
@FantasticMoron Жыл бұрын
That feels so wrong 😢
@c.wilson6723
@c.wilson6723 Жыл бұрын
😡😡😡
@robinUK87
@robinUK87 Жыл бұрын
That’s terrible. Feel so bad for you
@victoriagraham6470
@victoriagraham6470 Жыл бұрын
Omg, horrible
@kamal8040
@kamal8040 Жыл бұрын
I desperately waited for this story.. u really have the guts to share these scams..
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@kevin6550694
@kevin6550694 Жыл бұрын
You desperately waited for this story....to prove the church wrong? What is the reason that you desperately waited?
@kamal8040
@kamal8040 Жыл бұрын
@@kevin6550694 because, couple of days ago I read the article in CBC News and I was curious to know about it. THAT'S WHY
@ingenerchik
@ingenerchik Жыл бұрын
@@kamal8040 why are you so desperate?
@yvonnekinch7308
@yvonnekinch7308 Жыл бұрын
Kamalpreet, I agree he has guts and faith, I pray the Lord Jesus watch over all of them and their families.
@lorellifenstad7451
@lorellifenstad7451 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Fifth Estate for educating us about the evil doing in this Mormon church.
@mikeb.7381
@mikeb.7381 Жыл бұрын
I think the term 'Moron-ism' is more fitting.
@AwesomeAlexAdam
@AwesomeAlexAdam Жыл бұрын
In the Last days "There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be known."
@smuggythornton
@smuggythornton Жыл бұрын
yep, that scripture isn't talking about the church as the funds are being used very judiciously. it is talking about the evils of the day and the Canadian government is part of the evil I speak of.
@coopyduck6901
@coopyduck6901 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see The Fifth Estate do a deep dive into the US government and where the taxpayer money goes. Wouldn’t be just an hour video.
@79tazman
@79tazman Жыл бұрын
I would love that on the Canadian government but since Trudeau and CBC are connected at the hip we would not get the truth anyway.
@icecreamladydriver1606
@icecreamladydriver1606 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@PrincessGold1
@PrincessGold1 Жыл бұрын
Especially how much the 45th President creamed off for himself.
@coopyduck6901
@coopyduck6901 Жыл бұрын
@@PrincessGold1 45th gave his salary to charities. How about how much Sleepy Joe and his son was paid by other countries. Trump broke you ?
@Nephitejnf
@Nephitejnf Жыл бұрын
How about doing it for the Canadian government, too. Do it for every government. And do it in depth.
@llamamama2910
@llamamama2910 Жыл бұрын
Lots of people see wealth as a sign of wisdom and godly favor
@danielgriffin8132
@danielgriffin8132 Жыл бұрын
It's all about the money 💰 🤑 💸
@AfterTheRains
@AfterTheRains Жыл бұрын
Hopefully, this investigation goes much further and is not halted by people in power who are associated with this cult. This is a time of need for so many people and the funds should be used to help the needy and not the greedy.
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you know exactly everything about the disbursement of the sacred funds the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints receives and how it is applied, do you believe if you are part of an organization that welfare funds are received by donors that it is there to help its parishioner’s who participate in the program. That the church is the biggest proponent of education and helps those members of the church with discounted tuition as part of the program, just like state and out of state students where there is a separate rate respectively. Do you realize where the church grows in population that buildings are built mortgage free to house the saints congregating in those areas, to provide a place of worship. Everything takes money and it is the faith of those members who pay tithings that these wonderful blessings are expended to facilitate the growth. I think you are stuck with your prejudices and are judging very immaturely and without the full scope of the manner of stewardship over these sacred funds how it all works together. All this show has done is take bitter hurt people who know full well the commitment these members make, and target the church based on people who have nothing better than to badger the good name of this religion. Dig deeper talk to a leader in the church and give fair time to address these questions. The hearts of these members are good, kind generous in so many ways. This show is just looking to take advantage of the hate filled world and collect their own filthy lucre in the name of entertainment.
@RealLadyG
@RealLadyG Жыл бұрын
Little do you all know. The Church helps more needy people than any other entity,. My self and my family have been recipients in a plethora of ways and to mention millions more, but none of that was highlighted because the world feeds on drama, scandals, lies, gossip, but never the good news.... but go ahead continue to believe what the devil wants. Where were the real active members of the Church to bring accuracy and truth to counteract the lies. Only disgruntled ex-members were presented. A very bias and false report. Disappointed in the Fifth Estate. Shame on Them!!!
@shaunaellis6619
@shaunaellis6619 Жыл бұрын
Governor Herbert passed his corruption on to Governor Cox Mormon Mafia at its best.
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
Vile comment.
@kindafreexp1415
@kindafreexp1415 Жыл бұрын
​@@raptman5425 This comment here is wholly and entirely un-Christ-like. Your rabid attacking of every single comment here is so far from the example of Christ and the loving nature of God that I must question: Why? Why are you so dead-set on defending men, who are more than capable of doing bad, instead of defending God and His name by acting in a spirit of love and compassion towards even those you may see as your enemies? As a former Mormon (who left for reasons that weren't based on hurt or bad emotions) I can tell you that what you're doing here in this comment section is so far removed from what the scriptures teach us it's worrying. Who cares if random people on the internet attack the Church? It's not your job to defend it with petty remarks and insults. Rather, the only viable defense of the Church is to be kind and charitable and to be an example that shows others what the Church truly is. I urge you to think on this and pray about it. I'm not saying it to antagonize you, and I'm sorry if some of my other replies to you were antagonistic. But genuinely think about it, because I know the gospel of the Church and I know this isn't in line with it, so for your sake (according to your own beliefs) please consider what I've said.
@barbaraarianajones6267
@barbaraarianajones6267 Жыл бұрын
I am a partially disabled 70+ year old senior in the USA. I recently joined the LDS church. But to my astonishment, when I started asking questions from my better than usual Bible background and quoting scripture in support, I have been badmouthed and gossiped about from multiple male and female leaders in my “ward”. I’ve not been to church for over a year, and have texted the missionaries that “I feel so unwelcome due to repeated negative criticisms and false allegations against me, that I don’t want to step foot inside the church!” I’ve heard not another word from any of them. I am heartbroken and stunned at what appears to be a pattern of prohibitions against women speaking up or questioning ANYTHING, especially those who are widowed or unmarried! And prior to excommunication, there seems to be an accepted practice of a communication blackout and cruel shunning! When I consider the stories about Jesus’ behavior and patience and words found in the Bible, I just feel like crying for “time and eternity” at the rampant mistreatment of those “others”, at the hands of these who claim to be the “restored” disciples of Jesus Christ!
@IsaacWilsonSantiago
@IsaacWilsonSantiago Жыл бұрын
Not sure what this has to do with the video.
@tutziepop
@tutziepop Жыл бұрын
That's very sad and disheartening 🙏🏻
@katherinekhan6892
@katherinekhan6892 Жыл бұрын
Be grateful you can think for yourself (even if you are a woman 😉).
@stacyharris4824
@stacyharris4824 Жыл бұрын
Barbara, please read the book " The God Makers " written by 2 ex Mormons. One was in the church for 20yrs and the other man was in the church for 30 yrs. If you read this book you will be glad to be away from them !!! Just concentrate on the new king James bible. The Mormon religion totally contradicts the Bible. Many Many people have left and are leaving this church. This book will answer all your questions!!!!
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 Жыл бұрын
Barbara Jones... in reply, why don't you just leave. This is evil. With due respect.
@iamanempoweredone6064
@iamanempoweredone6064 4 ай бұрын
BYU is greatly subsidized but that reduces the amount of tuition students pay. I wouldn’t have been able to go to a good university without that. My student loan bill was very small.
@edpeaceofmind
@edpeaceofmind 7 ай бұрын
When you apply to BYU as a student you sign an honor code that specifically outlines what is expected of your behavior. All students must sign or will not be admitted. This isn't something you're blindsided with. All these students know and are aware of the consequences of YOU breaking the honor code.
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan Жыл бұрын
In 2019 Elder Andersen visited Zimbabwe and was asked to donate money to help build wells. His answer was, “We want to help in every way we can ... We are not a wealthy people but we are good people, and we share what we have”. Literally days later the Ensign Peak fund information was leaked and the world found out there was like $124,000,000,000.00 there. Oops
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is misleading and doesn't relate to this article.
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan Жыл бұрын
@@raptman5425 I disagree. The church behaves like a greedy corporation and this was a perfect example
@samsteel2643
@samsteel2643 Жыл бұрын
@@billiondollardan where is the proof,hearsay doesn't count
@jimshortland9449
@jimshortland9449 Жыл бұрын
Its the Lords money.... Why do you think the LDS church does so well. Jealousy get you know where.
@samsteel2643
@samsteel2643 Жыл бұрын
This comment is misleading. The church actually has drilling operations in Africa
@birdie2010
@birdie2010 Жыл бұрын
Australia version of 60 minutes is doing a similar expose too recently
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it has aired yet. This expose showed a clip from it tho.
@slconley
@slconley Жыл бұрын
We need more countries to do these exposes! The LDS church is a corporation that dabbles in religion.
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 11 ай бұрын
Excellent journalistic work. Just watched the Australian 60-Minutes report also released 6 months ago and the US 60-Minutes version , aired last Sunday which has not mentioned any of the Canadians and Australians work.
@erpthompsonqueen9130
@erpthompsonqueen9130 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
@TaufiqSafdar
@TaufiqSafdar Жыл бұрын
Incredible work as always. Journalism at it's finest.
@scuffmacgillicutty7509
@scuffmacgillicutty7509 Жыл бұрын
All Hail the CBC.
@lisamaria661
@lisamaria661 Жыл бұрын
Yeah just like CNN News!
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
You joke, right?
@chocolatesmile8419
@chocolatesmile8419 11 ай бұрын
Shocking and disgraceful
@dougl945
@dougl945 Жыл бұрын
There’s no hate like Mormon love
@marquitaarmstrong399
@marquitaarmstrong399 2 ай бұрын
Succinct and precise
@Janewomanpower
@Janewomanpower Жыл бұрын
Another great one Fifth! I hope we see a follow up of this one! Greed permeates these big corporations. churches is one of the biggest of this greed.
@blizzard2oo
@blizzard2oo Жыл бұрын
The worst collection of lies and yellow journalism imaginable. All nothing more than a littany of lies from CBC
@crystalyn2855
@crystalyn2855 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget politics like BLM and LGBTQ plus our government.
@Janewomanpower
@Janewomanpower Жыл бұрын
@@crystalyn2855 can you elaborate? I'm not certain what angle you are coming from. thank you.
@theoneandonlyroelle
@theoneandonlyroelle Жыл бұрын
@@Janewomanpower don’t hold your breath
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have been hurt. Sorry
@Iamlearningtolove
@Iamlearningtolove Жыл бұрын
And that's just the numbers we know about.
@josephconmansmith3350
@josephconmansmith3350 Жыл бұрын
LDS is such a con job.
@gcarson19
@gcarson19 7 ай бұрын
Good job, Nigel. It's more important that your children see you making a stand for your conviction than to see you kowtow to an authoritarian organization, especially one that holds the family model hostage.
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
The very fact that the LDS corporation built a multi-billion dollar shopping mall in Salt Lake City with tithing money should exempt it from it's tax free status.
@rsmyth75
@rsmyth75 Жыл бұрын
Never!…… Read the constitution !!!
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
@@rsmyth75 There is a clear distinction between religions and money making corporations. LDS looks more like a Corporation.
@outsideview9052
@outsideview9052 Жыл бұрын
At least be honest enough to recognize the difference between money generated from LDS Church owned businesses, invested reserves, and money coming in each year from tithing. You should also know that LDS Church owned businesses do pay all state and federal taxes that are required. I would think you would be more concerned about charitable donations going to people / leaders who use it to provide themselves with a lavish lifestyle rather than for church purposes and humanitarian aid. Those type of financial abuses by leaders doesnt happen with the LDS Church. If it did, believe me you would have heard about it as part of this CBC hit piece. I would suggest you worry more about your own donations to charity (you do make them dont you?) and less about what orgainizations other people chose to donate to.
@Ericksosasculptor
@Ericksosasculptor Жыл бұрын
@@outsideview9052 Bravo!!
@blizzard2oo
@blizzard2oo Жыл бұрын
What makes you even think citycreek was built with tithingfunds? Clear proof you have not done your research. You need to understand the LDS business corporation which is taxable just like any other business. Deseret management is wealthy and donations are wholly separate from Deseret management. Tithing funds are totally apart from malls.
@Natalieneptune469
@Natalieneptune469 Жыл бұрын
Transfer of wealth usually occur during recession, so the more stocks drop, the more I buy, in the meanwhile I'm just focused on making better investments and earning more as recession fear increases, apparently there are strategies to 3x gains in this present market because I read of someone that pulled a profit of $350k within 6months, what are the best stocks to buy now or put on a watchlist?
@Alejandracamacho357
@Alejandracamacho357 Жыл бұрын
Find stocks with market-beating yields and shares that at least keep pace with the market for a long term. For a successful long-term strategy I recommend you seek the guidance a broker or financial advisor.
@Robertgriffinne
@Robertgriffinne Жыл бұрын
@@Alejandracamacho357 Very true..I've been in constant touch with a Financial-Adviser for the past 23 months. You know, these days it's really easy to buy into trending stocks, but the task is determining when to sell or keep. That's where my manager comes in, to help me with entry and exit points in the industries I'm engaged in. Can’t say I regret it, I’m 63% up in profits just in Q3 of 2023.
@marianparker7502
@marianparker7502 Жыл бұрын
@@Robertgriffinne
@Robertgriffinne
@Robertgriffinne Жыл бұрын
@@marianparker7502 My adviser is "Corinne Cecilia Heaney" You can easily look her up. She has years of financial market experience and she is also FINRA & SEC verifiable.
@marianparker7502
@marianparker7502 Жыл бұрын
@@Robertgriffinne I just looked up 'Corinne online and researched her accreditation. She seem very proficient, I wrote her detailing my Fin-market goals and scheduled a call
@thatsjustmytake
@thatsjustmytake Жыл бұрын
Point#8 30:35 There is no church in the world that forces its members to give tithing or else. You give money became you want to, you go to church because you want to, you help people in the street became you want to. To this man and anyone who donates money and want a tax write off on your taxes, then you are not really doing the donation for the right reason. The widow's mite in the Bible. I don't think that she said, hey! want a tax write off document for my donation. Or when Judas betrayed Jesus, she said what a false of a church I want my money back. If anyone is going to do an act of charity towards another, do it became it's in your heart without thinking first on writing it off on your taxes. This man is bitter.
@THELOVEOFMYLIFE89
@THELOVEOFMYLIFE89 Жыл бұрын
Why was the comments from your last video turned off
@Maya-xm5jx
@Maya-xm5jx Жыл бұрын
Thank you The Fifth Estate for doing meticulous journalism. I really appreciate it. All your journalists are about TRUTH….which is RARE these days. Thank you for always giving us the TRUTH.
@egoldthorp1
@egoldthorp1 Жыл бұрын
This show is not reputable and does not desire to put goodness before the audience. The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a wonderful organization of humanitarian support and if any organization who is reputable with their finances it is them. Unlike the governments of many nations who are intent on impoverishing its citizens as we have witnessed in these past two years particularly.
@missbillie6097
@missbillie6097 Жыл бұрын
All CBC journalists are incapable of telling truth
@HermicraftAddict
@HermicraftAddict Жыл бұрын
This is very brave. The cult has some big reach...
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
If you only want half truths and lies.
@JJJJ-gl2uf
@JJJJ-gl2uf Жыл бұрын
Excellent investigative reporting from The Fifth Estate, as usual.
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
Serious?
@mikestewart4752
@mikestewart4752 9 ай бұрын
I watched this when it was first released… any updates planned?
@lisafong7957
@lisafong7957 Жыл бұрын
I was a BYU graduate from Asia. Without the tithing given by the members, I would have never dreamt of having a college education in the U.S. Having a U.S. education background, I was able to work for a few multinational U.S companies in Asia and I did well. I know I was not the only one benefited from it, there were so many foreign students in the three BUY campuses in Hawaii, Idaho and Utah respectively.
@jakemoeller7850
@jakemoeller7850 Жыл бұрын
LDS is certainly a corporation...wrapped in a cloak of deceit.
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 Жыл бұрын
Latter Day Swindle
@MsCaterific
@MsCaterific Жыл бұрын
The corruptions are So.Much.More! then just money.
@josephconmansmith3350
@josephconmansmith3350 Жыл бұрын
The Church of Joseph Smith of Latter Day Swindlers.
@krmccarrell
@krmccarrell 9 ай бұрын
Good one, I like that. May I borrow it?
@markkrispin6944
@markkrispin6944 8 ай бұрын
The Corporation of Rusty Nelson of the Latter-Day Frauds
@AmbaritaDoltok
@AmbaritaDoltok 8 ай бұрын
ini bukan ajaran yang baik
@frandyson6133
@frandyson6133 8 ай бұрын
It's a cult not a religion
@user-tp6hn6im2j
@user-tp6hn6im2j 7 ай бұрын
Jealousy??
@jonipitcher7185
@jonipitcher7185 Жыл бұрын
Just leaving the church. It's crazy when you start looking outside of "church approved" information how much MORE you really learn about the church.
@2022Coopersmom
@2022Coopersmom Жыл бұрын
I’m out 2 years. It gets better! I cannot believe people listen to an pedi-fle- spelled wrong on purpose cuz, censors. Anyway, the story of smith’s predation of girls and women makes me so -- no words
@jonipitcher7185
@jonipitcher7185 Жыл бұрын
@@2022Coopersmom I hope I don't just turn angry. Lots of people who leave just become mean and angry.... but I get it now. I see why. SO MUCH of my life choices have been made because of the church. So much BS. Lies at every turn and honestly I'm pissed at myself for being so stupid to believe for so long without looking deeper.
@micass3561
@micass3561 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations! Just don’t lose your spirituality. I did that and it was a very dark time. ❤
@bazaarm.b.c
@bazaarm.b.c 8 ай бұрын
Today I consider myself spiritual rather religious...
@josephmorgan3058
@josephmorgan3058 Жыл бұрын
Those donations for the poor are given IN ADDITION to the tithes. My family's donations were 17% of GROSS.
@kindafreexp1415
@kindafreexp1415 Жыл бұрын
That's not even getting into the fact that tithe was collected by coercion, literally threatening to lock you out of temple access (and thus ordinances vital for one's salvation) if one did not do everything in their power to pay at _least_ 10% of gross income.
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 Жыл бұрын
17 million members? Not even close. Actual active membership is no more than 4 million.
@IamCree
@IamCree Жыл бұрын
Yep, the church lies about membership numbers as well 😂. At this point, what is it actually honest about?
@suzannedehaven6775
@suzannedehaven6775 Жыл бұрын
@@IamCree so you literally want to the Mormon church a liar..
@maluofmalleswaram
@maluofmalleswaram Жыл бұрын
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful." - Seneca (5 BCE - 65 CE)
@franciscagarcia6929
@franciscagarcia6929 18 күн бұрын
Great video!
@tawnyavandamme5471
@tawnyavandamme5471 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE reports such as this ! Mind blowing 😮
@raptman5425
@raptman5425 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@callumgowar8191
@callumgowar8191 Жыл бұрын
@@tawnyavandamme5471 Rapt Man is a bot!!! Check the comments!
@tawnyavandamme5471
@tawnyavandamme5471 Жыл бұрын
@@callumgowar8191 thanks
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