THE MOST BROKEN TANK IN WAR THUNDER

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OddBawZ

OddBawZ

Күн бұрын

The Strv 103 C in War Thunder is the most broken tank in the game. There are 3 S-Tanks in War Thunder and since day one they have never behaved correctly.
In today's video, I play the best version of the S-Tank in War Thunder. The C variant has the best powerplant out of the 3 Strv 103 tanks in game. It also has APFSDS with an astounding 4 second reload.
The Strv103 has a completely fixed cannon. The gun is aimed by use of the hull traversing left and right and the suspension raising and lowering. Unfortunately since this vehicle was introduced it has been extremely unreliable and just downright broken.
The 103 C sits at battle rating 8.3 meaning it fights vehicles with full stabilised turrets and APFSDS that can easily outmatch the 40mm armour on the Strv 103 C making it next to useless.
Gaijin, please fix this once and for all!
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INTRO (00:00)
THE BIG ISSUE (00:22)
GAME 1 - 40 POINTS FROM A NUKE (03:31)
GAME 2 - ALMOST A NUKE AGAIN (17:09)
OUTRO (29:41)

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@OddBawZ
@OddBawZ Жыл бұрын
ATD POINT NEWS HERE! The Strv 103's have been in a sorry state for a long time. There's a couple of outstanding games in this video but also some bloopers, too. It's likely a lot of people are happier with the state of the hull-aiming but it could definitely be better. I'd like to see the Strv 103's really shine and have full functionality. Hopefully Gaijin can do something about it so they're worth playing with the exception of 2 or 3 maps at long range. Make Sweden Great Again!
@julianh9347
@julianh9347 Жыл бұрын
Gajin is also unable to properly model the turret mechanics of french tanks. The oscillating turrets are by design self stabilizing as long as the change in inclination or declination from terrain do not cross the amount of angle the turret can swing!
@challenger3603
@challenger3603 Жыл бұрын
If memory servers the Strv 103's were really good early on. Bought it as a pre-order and was amazed by the aiming. It was spot on and was perfect. No bouncing or other issues then Gajin per usual, "fixed" something and broke it. It's never been right since. Ah, the issue was that it had a tendency to roll back wards on hills on its own. Not hard to deal with if you knew how but most people never did figure out the trick to stop it from happening, and demanded Gajin to fix it. "Fix" it they did.
@ExcavationNation
@ExcavationNation Жыл бұрын
It's not that it's that the strv ATTACK THE D POINT!
@CoCoNuT-dq7ez
@CoCoNuT-dq7ez Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Strv 103 irl able to operate on just one person?
@Intellgenttwig
@Intellgenttwig Жыл бұрын
Odd, can you please play the ju88 a4 at 2.3 with 2 5000kg bombs and 28 50 kg bombs at 2.3 thank you
@oOPrinzValiumOo
@oOPrinzValiumOo Жыл бұрын
The 1 player left mechanic on this tank could be just a buff to this tank but in RL 1 men can actually fully operate the tank The second strange thing is that this tank has 2 engines, one diesel engine and one gas turbine, it can run them seperatly or together, so if one engine gets knocked out this tank should be able to still drive and steer.
@adriancoric1721
@adriancoric1721 Жыл бұрын
I'd love if they added that but 90% of the time the transmission gets taken out aswell so I don't see much of a reason to do it. still would be cool
@phalanx3803
@phalanx3803 Жыл бұрын
the engines are controlled automatically the diesel it always running the turbine kicks in when high speed or more power for adverse terrain is needed.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Жыл бұрын
And while all the crew is trained in all driving and gunnery controls, only the two forward facing crew stations has full operational controls. The Radio operator/Reverse driver station only has steering and speed driving control and radio controls, no gun controls, and no suspension controls.
@modica3466
@modica3466 Жыл бұрын
@@SonsOfLorgar Yes, but if it is needed he can just move from his positions and assume the controls, if of couse he can get out of there.
@chrislong6541
@chrislong6541 6 ай бұрын
Helpful for the weird way it aims
@95Karlsson
@95Karlsson Жыл бұрын
A couple fun IRL facts about the 103. The reload wasn't 4 seconds. it was around 2.8 seconds when holding down the trigger. Thanks to its longer barrel it had about 20% more velocity and penetration while using the same ammo as other 105mm guns at the time like the STRV104 for example.
@limer.6355
@limer.6355 Жыл бұрын
thx
@Dramigbaklanges
@Dramigbaklanges Жыл бұрын
And the 103 also used the M/90 ammo, the C in the M/90C stands for Centurion. The round was to long for fitting inside in the auto loader so Sweden ordered a modified round (M/90S) where the dart is sitting couple of centimeters further in the casing. The centurion can fire the M/90S but the 103 must use this round. The 103 could penetrate targets 500 meters further away compared to the Centurion when both using the same ammo.
@alytonairsoft
@alytonairsoft Жыл бұрын
also its really true in irl that one crew member can drive and shoot that thing
@lada_niva_1.7i
@lada_niva_1.7i Жыл бұрын
Not 2.8 seconds, but 2.5 even. Altough most of the time it was set the 4.5 seconds irl.
@95Karlsson
@95Karlsson Жыл бұрын
@@lada_niva_1.7i 2.8 is what I was quoted from an ex 103 commander while i was doing my service in the Swedish armed forces. also the gun wasn't ever "set" or programmed to any speed. The machinery worked as quickly as it could and the fastest fire rates were achieved when holding down both the fire and reload button for continuous fire.
@norgtube
@norgtube Жыл бұрын
That "one crew can still shoot and maneuver" is a historically accurate btw
@Nugire
@Nugire Жыл бұрын
The 3rd crewmate wasn't even necessary, but made loading easier (autoloader, so reloading the magazine out of combat). So they just went "put him in facing the rear and make him the get-away driver"
@brigadgeneralvoid2508
@brigadgeneralvoid2508 Жыл бұрын
@@Nugire was pretty helpful when its reverse speed is 60km/h
@pilot_bruh576
@pilot_bruh576 Жыл бұрын
​@@Nugirethe 3rd crewmate was to drive the tank backwards
@alangordon3283
@alangordon3283 11 ай бұрын
@@Nugirethere was no person as a loader in a tank that has an Autoloader 🙄
@firesupport162
@firesupport162 11 ай бұрын
Need a full crew because Warthunder has to charge all of them 70$ a month or you lose premium status
@leafleap
@leafleap Жыл бұрын
*_Strv 103 IRL_* Steady, precise, incredibly accurate, drives like a dream, handles like Tony Hawk on a skateboard. *_Strv 103 in WT_* Janky, wobbly, imprecise, handles like a wet seal in a rocking chair.
@adam632
@adam632 Жыл бұрын
My former teacher back in elementary school used to drive the s-tank. a big flex
@Dramigbaklanges
@Dramigbaklanges Жыл бұрын
And 2.5 sec reload time irl
@g3arjammer837
@g3arjammer837 Жыл бұрын
“Handles like a wet seal in a rocking chair” I’m gonna use that one
@gvi341984
@gvi341984 Жыл бұрын
The tank works great on paper but having a hybrid engine with a strange suspension system made things rather clumsy. If the tank remained a single person tank it would have been a lot better due to weight distribution
@Mornomgir
@Mornomgir Жыл бұрын
@@gvi341984 I take it you never watched this thing doing work IRL? It is far from clumsy . It could outmanouever any contemporary vehicle with ease. Adress on target and fire faster than any turreted vehicle. Post cold war tests also proved that it made rather chunky holes through anything russian built.
@obopixel4550
@obopixel4550 Жыл бұрын
For what the tank was designed for - a defensive role in a area with many small hills if I'm remembering correctly, it was actually extremely optimal. >hide behind hill >literal inches of ur tank sticking up >pew pew >one engine gone? use the other >1 crewman left? that's plenty
@fusion3865
@fusion3865 Жыл бұрын
yes and it is super flat so it is harder for the enemy to se it but sadly it never got used
@tezla6332
@tezla6332 Жыл бұрын
@@fusion3865 Dunno if sadly is the word I'd use, yeah it's a little sad that we never actually saw how effective it'd be in combat but the only way we'd see that is if the country was being invaded, so, good trade off if you ask me.
@fusion3865
@fusion3865 Жыл бұрын
@@tezla6332 yea that is true but who knows they might make a new version of it
@peterlewerin4213
@peterlewerin4213 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't designed for a defensive role, it was designed for a counterattack that would push the Soviets off the beaches. It had all kinds of features that could be useful in defensive combat on typical Swedish forested ground, but if it came to that kind of combat, we were already beaten.
@peterlewerin4213
@peterlewerin4213 Жыл бұрын
@mcchickenz Are you referring to the 1939-40 one (the Winter War) where Finland's complete defeat forced them to accept a horrible treaty that robbed them of their second-largest city, over a tenth of the country's economic assets, and made 12% of its population fugitives? Or do you mean the one in 1944 during the Continuation War, which ended with Finland having to cede more territory, pay reparations of over 4 billion dollars in today's value, and make political adjustments to suit the Soviet Union, including buying Warsaw Pact materiel for their military until USSR keeled over. The Finns fought for their lives and independence against an orders of magnitude superior enemy, and very nearly lost everything.
@ExcavationNation
@ExcavationNation Жыл бұрын
Bro I'm really digging the tanks taking to us in the intro it's super cute would like to see a video on just the tanks talking
@iguanalivesmatter2689
@iguanalivesmatter2689 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Give the people what they want!!
@derpychicken2131
@derpychicken2131 Жыл бұрын
we need more tanks shitting casings
@samadams2203
@samadams2203 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Ranzar's videos sort of.
@Rickster621
@Rickster621 Жыл бұрын
Just like Doom49
@cvi4057
@cvi4057 Жыл бұрын
Youre a sensitive boi aren't yuh Tommy
@TheOreoOverlord
@TheOreoOverlord Жыл бұрын
Something cool, this tank could actually operate with just one crew member, but it was found that the tank was more efficient with more than one. Two was considered, but they wanted to attempt to export the tank. Since all other countries had 3-4 man tanks, no one would consider buying a 2-man tank because they were skeptical of his different it would be. None were exported, however, in WT this beautiful tank cam still be operated by just one crew member. Pretty cool IMO
@_abk_3251
@_abk_3251 Жыл бұрын
So it is accurate to irl after all
@M3dicayne
@M3dicayne Жыл бұрын
Technically speaking, this tank could literally be operated with just one guy. But honestly; being put in a 40mm armored coffin alone against the enemy is a seriously, morally distressing thought.
@Mattle_lutra
@Mattle_lutra Жыл бұрын
The 3 man crew was also a psychological thing. Groups of 3 are more likely to make good decisions in hard situations than groups of 2 and in the case of the loss of 1 crew member you wouldn't be alone in the tank.
@bzs187
@bzs187 Жыл бұрын
@@_abk_3251 Except in game it can burn down, for balance reasons.
@AkiraZXE
@AkiraZXE Жыл бұрын
I imagine emergency field maintenance would have made the 1-man tank idea a nightmare as well.
@rylanwessel1576
@rylanwessel1576 Жыл бұрын
2:30 it can be manned by UP TO 4 people, but can be fully functional with just 1 person in real life. Recommended to have 3 to be efficient.
@bobobergstrom
@bobobergstrom Жыл бұрын
Hi Rylan. The Strv 103 can seat maximum 3 persons in reality. The commander and gunner/driver sit next to each other and has equal staring and aiming equipment. The commander has an additional cupola and can spot targets independent from the gunner and can also direct the gunner with his cupola. The third crew is a second driver for backwards driving as well as radio operator. This is a solution essentially because the Swedish army realized that maintenance and daily services requires at least three persons but the tank it self does not require more than one person for driving and shooting. It was also a benefit with a backwards driver for quick withdrawal in ful speed from firing position without showing weak side armour When the tank was developed it was not essential to be able to fire during movement as most tanks of that era lacked high precision gyro stabilization of the gun and most of them stopped any way for accurate aiming. In that sense it was better to focus on protection and super low, hard to hit profile. The solution with the gas turbine engine is unique and was a choice for space saving. The diesel is about 250 hp and for aiming and scooting when in position and the gas turbine of 490hp is for driving and relocation. The hydraulic aiming of the tank is VERY precise, much better than the game is offering and also quick in reality. The auto loader gun with extended L7 barrel is extremely accurate, and did outmatch any of the opponents of its time. The true fire rate is 24 shots per minut with a reload time of 2,4 seconds. 20 + 24 shots in the two magazines. The realistic fire rate is as in the WT game, approximately 4 seconds as firing requires reaming and target finding as well as dust clouds from firing is preventing rapid fire with precision. How ever, the gun can be firing automatically with maximum reload time by holding the trigger.
@stefannilsson2406
@stefannilsson2406 Жыл бұрын
The reason they allowed it to function with just one crew member is because it did in real life. One person was enough to perform all tasks. They decided to put 3 people in it though because doing everything yourself would be quite stressfull.
@qwormuli77
@qwormuli77 Жыл бұрын
Not just stressful, but slow, unreliable and incredibly draining as well. It's much less like two seater jets and more like playing a three player game with three separate controllers.
@CT--dy3pg
@CT--dy3pg Жыл бұрын
"i should have brought more ammo with me" proceeds to shoot every tree on the map
@ExcavationNation
@ExcavationNation Жыл бұрын
Lol odd tries to trick the m60 into believing that his reload isn't good and almost runs out of shells in the process 😂
@DaReaperZ
@DaReaperZ Жыл бұрын
I don't think you can say the design is silly. It performed well in tests and was specifically developed for the terrain it was going to be fighting in.
@Nugire
@Nugire Жыл бұрын
And for the tactic they wanted to deploy. They were prepareing for a invasion of the soviet union, so a full on battle would be suicide on their own. So they planned - like most NATO in europe - for a defense. the STRV103 should ambush enemy tanks from "hull down", empty their autoloader on them and then retreat. So of course it underperforms in a game, where you are inclined to attack, or at least hold the line.
@saturdaytv043
@saturdaytv043 Жыл бұрын
He's talking how the tank performs in war thunder, it's not bad or good but yeah it's bad.
@peterlewerin4213
@peterlewerin4213 Жыл бұрын
@@Nugire No, from a Swedish perspective, ambushing Soviet tanks in the forests was not a good tactic as it handed to the initiative to the Soviets. The Strv 103 was designed to make counterattacks together with APCs against Soviet landing forces. The Rommel idea, if you will.
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 Жыл бұрын
But it’s never been used in war.
@ShortArmOfGod
@ShortArmOfGod Жыл бұрын
Performed well in tests lol good one
@painedkillerk9
@painedkillerk9 Жыл бұрын
This vehicle was actually built so that it could be operated by only one crew member interestingly enough
@DaReaperZ
@DaReaperZ Жыл бұрын
21:21 Yes, it's an MBT. It was designated and used as such. For pushing the B point in this game you wouldn't want to send in MBTs because close quarters urban fighting is essentially a deathtrap to any MBT, turret or no turret. People have to wrap their minds around the concept that an MBT is a designation and determines how the army intends to use that tank. An MBT doesn't have to have a turret and it doesn't have to be able to "break through" enemy lines unless the army that intends to use it that way needs that functionality.
@busteraycan
@busteraycan Жыл бұрын
Yes a MBT shouldn't enter urban combat but in this game the capture point was in a city. And given the choice a turret is better in that situation than no turret. Love the design of the 103 myself btw.
@DaReaperZ
@DaReaperZ Жыл бұрын
@@busteraycan I agree. My point is simply that there is nothing about an MBT that requires it to be able to rush into urban combat to "capture a point". A tank can still be an MBT without a turret and without being optimal for the fictive tasks we need to do in-game.
@xRPRx
@xRPRx Жыл бұрын
1 guy being able to run the tank is actually the whole point lol, they originally had a 2 man crew and upped it to 3 because they needed an extra set of hands to repair the vehicle etc. as its autoloaded and the gunner/driver are the same person, its feasible that a single person could operate the vehicle, even at a reduced efficiency
@hambonethegreat9547
@hambonethegreat9547 Жыл бұрын
Mate, find a hill, duck, Lazer, shoot, bounce shells and repeat. I've gotten thousands of spawn points from taking rounds. It can't be amo racked unless they get behind you and if they are behind you then you've already misused it.
@zesterfrost8218
@zesterfrost8218 Жыл бұрын
Well said! The weirder the tank, the more obvious it's intended purpose is
@heliosjollywolf9552
@heliosjollywolf9552 Жыл бұрын
@@zesterfrost8218 well its not that weird this thing is just the concept of a tank destroyer but taken to 11
@Jason221S
@Jason221S Жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU ODDD YOU ALWAYS MAKE MY DAY. I had such a crap day, this is the highlight today for sure.
@vcr4497
@vcr4497 Жыл бұрын
I got the premium a few days before this video is posted , I play it in 7.7 and get at least three kills a game playing super recklessly. Incredibly survivable. Incredible reload time. I play it at 8.3 BR and still hold my own. I think it could get a jump to 8 or 8.3
@ideadlift20kg83
@ideadlift20kg83 Жыл бұрын
This tank was developed to withstand conventional ammo. Gaijin - "Let's place it against APFSDS!"
@riccardomariani9648
@riccardomariani9648 Жыл бұрын
like the maus: let's add a tank so thicc that conventional ww2 rounds can't penetrate it...and then put it against HEATFS and sabots
@TheGrace020
@TheGrace020 Жыл бұрын
@@riccardomariani9648 enough to make a man cry :(
@IvanTre
@IvanTre Жыл бұрын
I found it absolutely, totally cancer, mostly encountering it with a British 7.3 line up. Complete cancer, hitting the top does nothing, you have to hit the transmission, but what if he's hull down ? The only hope is flanking it, or hoping you hit the transmission otherwise you'e just dead.
@2KDrop
@2KDrop Жыл бұрын
@@IvanTre If they're hull down on a hill they can barely turn to the right or left
@juangonzalez9848
@juangonzalez9848 Жыл бұрын
It was designed for increased maneuverability in a heavily wooded environment that would impede rotation of turreted vehicles. Something this game completely ignores what with tank barrels clipping through buildings.
@chocolatesandwichesofficia8445
@chocolatesandwichesofficia8445 Жыл бұрын
would be a cool feature to introduce barrels interacting with buildings
@jayklink851
@jayklink851 Жыл бұрын
Also, technically, one man can operate/fire this vehicle.
@alanhuskey2404
@alanhuskey2404 Жыл бұрын
It was also designed with defense in mind
@Dunkopf
@Dunkopf Жыл бұрын
Another reason was because multiple studies showed that the weakest part of a tank was the connection between the hill and turret. And that the height of the tank vastly increased casualty rate.
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 Жыл бұрын
I hear you Juan and I too want barrels stopped by structures since they made barrels "solid" for damage-to-the-barrel purposes. Alas, I don't think Gaijin will ever do that because "game play" (and the number of people who would whine) is more important than realism.
@S4B3R117
@S4B3R117 Жыл бұрын
Such a cool tank, it's a shame it is so poorly implemented
@Husker5454
@Husker5454 Жыл бұрын
Pro tip with all the 103's . Bring full ammo theres no reason not too and i have used all 50 rounds multiple times in this thing on large kill sprees .
@streetsafari0
@streetsafari0 Жыл бұрын
Love you talking to the tanks at the start!
@medvykk7184
@medvykk7184 Жыл бұрын
honestly, i bought the 103-0 version some time ago. it's an amazing tank, but the broken hull aiming makes it lose a LOT of potential it could have. i personally love this thing, but it's horrible at all ranges. The Wobbly hull aim makes it hard to aim at long range, it's mediocre at close range, and the amount of uptiers at 7.7 make it horrible at CQC as you face stuff with either APFSDS, or very late APDS which has a lot of penetration ( the 120mm Ordnance L1A2 on the Conqueror, which is the same BR as the 103-0 and 103A ), and let's not even talk about how big of an disadvantage it has with the lack of stabilizer and easily disabled engine and transmission, which usually makes it completely immobilized in the first penetrating shot.
@sorincaladera936
@sorincaladera936 Жыл бұрын
My question is, why are you bringing an antiquated ambush vehicle into CQC and expecting anything other than getting slapped?
@lokikinch
@lokikinch Жыл бұрын
Actually its technically historically accurate as the STRV-103 only really needs one crew member as the Driver is also the gunner... technically...
@kefren451
@kefren451 Жыл бұрын
is correct, historically this vehicle has redundant controls for its crew which makes it possible for it to be operated by a single person.
@aaronsong3668
@aaronsong3668 Жыл бұрын
Yeap saw a page on Reddit that said the same thing, no separate gunner in strv103, driver is the gunner. 3 guys are the commander, the main driver(gunner), and the backup driver(gunner).
@alsund1866
@alsund1866 Жыл бұрын
The Strv 0/A are two of the best tanks at 7.7. I can consistently get 5-10 kill matches in both. In fact I fear that they may be too strong and they might be moved up in br... The 103c is however much worse because it can't bounce anything.
@sethdaboss245
@sethdaboss245 Жыл бұрын
Ridiculous tanks, they need moved up. No weakspots, crazy gun, good mobility. Wtf gaijin thinking at 7.7?
@felixxilef4234
@felixxilef4234 Жыл бұрын
@@sethdaboss245 it‘s not that easy to play and manny things can penetrate you
@alex190alex
@alex190alex Жыл бұрын
@@sethdaboss245 HEAT shells and ATGMs are their weakness. The strv C can survive 1-2 HEATFS(and some ATGMs but ATGMs around 8.3 usually just go right through the mesh protection) shells shot through the front that's the main difference between the 0/A and C. There are a ton of HEAT tanks around 7.7-8.7 alone, which is probably why it's still around that br
@sethdaboss245
@sethdaboss245 Жыл бұрын
@@alex190alex all tanks are victimized by heatfs and atgm. Makes no sense though that strv 103 is invulnerable to many tanks without those rounds at 6.7-7.7. Yeh like wtf im gonna do in a tiger 2
@jackdaw9418
@jackdaw9418 Жыл бұрын
@@sethdaboss245 ah a wehraboo
@w0t3rdog
@w0t3rdog Жыл бұрын
Strv 103 really aint suited for these types of games. They were designed to go to ambush positions, dig in, and wait. Fire, fire, fire, fire, before the enemy could properly respond and then scoot out of there. In fact, it has the same speed going forward as in reverse, and it have 2 driver positions, one oriented forward, and one back. It is never meant to show neither sides nor rump to the enemy. It was built in a time where Sweden envisioned the great Soviet tank battalions, rolling over Europe. So they prepared to bleed the enemy every inch of ground. It was made for home turf. Dense forrests, narrow roads, the occasional meadow and wheat field. Tons of places to dig in, hide, and strike hard from up close, and restricted visibility for anyone trying to give chase. It was usually equipped with a digging tool in front, and with its fine hydraulic control, and strong engines, it could dig itself a good ditch in couple minutes, which increased protection, as suddenly, it only presented a barrel and the front armour to the enemy, and it made itself harder to detect, as it decreased its profile even more. Add in the environment, dense forrests, and cover the barrel and top of the tank with branches and stuff... it would most certainly get the first shot. And with that reload speed, it might get 2-3 shots more before needing to scoot. Even driving through Sweden today, a strv 103 could be just meters from the highway, and you'd have no way to tell without electronic assistance. And it wouldnt be acting alone. Infantery would engage enemies with FN Mags, Carl Gustafs, G3s, mines, artillery.. they would blow up bridges to redirect enemy armour to killzones. The (then) strong airforce would vy for local air superiority, and then punish any armour formations too big for bunching up. It isnt bad. It was just designed for another type of warfare than the typical tank. It aint a tank to go hunting with, or patrolling, or any of the typical tank things. It digs in, deliver some hurt, and falls back, and finds new locations to dig in. It IS a camper. If you go around looking for enemies with it, you are using it wrong.
@roomcayz
@roomcayz Жыл бұрын
the premium s-tank from 7.7 is one of my most favorite vehicles in this game, but it's very situational so you may get games with 0 kills as often as games with 5+ kills, I'm not a good player but it fits my very passive playstyle, few tips from me: - your place is the open field, avoid cities, the best is to find a nice hill where you can hide you silhouette, peek your targets with binoculars and make an ambush - always take full ammo, ammo is in the back so first they have to penetrate your engine in order to kill you, if you get shot from the side or back you are already dead anyways - still not every vehicle has a rangefinder on 7.7, you can exploit that by shoting them long-range - its better to use HESH if you are against a weak armored target (marder or bmp) to get around the "no armor best armor" rule - atgms are your worst enemies, missles have enough penetration to go throught the engine - if they can't penetrate your engine but only your armor then you are also dead - but slower - because of fires - when you got penetrated but don't know from where it's better to shot a smoke shell in front of you instead of waiting for being penetrated again - survivability and mobility is amazing - aiming sucks, but crew can improve that by a lot
@CarolusR3x
@CarolusR3x Жыл бұрын
possibly the most nerfed tank in the game from a comparative irl point of view. the two engines are combined into one, one engine dies, the other dies too, hull aiming sucks and the thing won't settle if its resting on even a slight slant its gun, even though its modified to be longer, still has the same performance as a stock L7, the irl reload rate of the gun was akin to about 2-3 seconds, not 4.
@skiingcrocodile2153
@skiingcrocodile2153 Жыл бұрын
I've played quite a lot of World of tanks in the past and their hull aiming mechanics are fantastic, smooth as butter. I really don't get why Gaijin struggles with them so much.
@Mithirael
@Mithirael Жыл бұрын
Tbf, name one thing Gaijin doesn't struggle with. They don't know the meaning of the word "balance", neither in terms of gameplay, or when it comes to RP and economy. They are so damn horny for their aircraft (with a joke of a flight sim anyways) that they refuse to make a proper ground battles gamemode. Even though they are so horny for aircraft, they've fucked up all the top tier jets in Sweden, by forcing them to fly ~10km lower, and up to 600km/h slower than their real life counterparts (and that's with the official numbers lol) Not to mention, I'm convinced they've fired the entire department (or the single guy) responsible for developing and reworking maps. As of right now, there are maybe 2 okay maps, the rest are either bad or awful.
@user-sg9ql8nk1u
@user-sg9ql8nk1u 5 ай бұрын
the physic engine,world of tank vehicle dont really "shake" and more like sliding around a block on... a larger flatter block while war thunder the block now have wheel with suspension and terrain so... eh...?
@Bullet4MyEnemy
@Bullet4MyEnemy Жыл бұрын
I actually quite enjoy the premium one, at least in sim battles. It gets that 260mm APDS shell that has improved angle pen, and it fights mainly T-54s… With a laser range finder. If you get a big map, even with all the downsides, it can pen it’s opposition anywhere and they can’t do much to you at all short of immobilising you, but if you work the range they’ll never get close enough to finish you off so it’s a non-issue. Great win rate, great kill farmer, and a real money printer. Just got to pray for a big map.
@samadams2203
@samadams2203 Жыл бұрын
Such a cool tank design. Looks pretty strong even if you have to wrestle with the aiming system. Probably one of the few tanks I'd actually want to crew(watching inside the chieftain's hatch it seems quite comfortable inside.) I feel like it should be a really good tank, as sweden's tech tree is kind of gimmicky at earlier tiers? Most of the other offerings are modifications of other nations vehicles, so it would be nice if their domestic flagship were excellent.
@crab1973
@crab1973 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the annoyeddbawz disclosure at the start . actually improved my viewing experience ❤️
@tarax007
@tarax007 Жыл бұрын
I do love this tank design. Controlling it can be ... funky and at times frustratingly bumpy. It really excels at hill fighting/sniping, even next to road ditches. Surpricingly good at CqC brawls (in cities! due to the speed/turn rates). Everything else, super exposed and vounrable in my experience. Decent long range Helicopter sniper too!... Mainly thanks to the rangefinder. So far my experience is limited to Br 6-8 as I only have the Br 7 tank. I never got 12 kills tho, most impressive! Good video still!
@illturralli
@illturralli Жыл бұрын
This is my honest belief about the hullaiming. Gaijin had one guy wgo programmed it, but did such a bad job that it's impossible to fix. They need to redo the entire programming base, but they won't do it because its too much wasted money.
@PilotTed
@PilotTed Жыл бұрын
I have the 103-0, got it when they actually fixed it and made the hull aiming good, then the next update broke it again, and its been broken since. Kinda sad really, I used it to grind most of the low tier and some mid tier swedish tanks, but I just won't play it until they fix hull aiming again.
@SapphosSails
@SapphosSails Жыл бұрын
You have to have long range hills to play the tank well to be honest. I think the only way to balance things is for AB and RB to allow the STRV to still turn in place when the engine/transmission are out, but not when the tracks are out etc. The aim seems to wiggle around WAY more than it should when looking at a fixed spot as well.
@michaz2074
@michaz2074 Жыл бұрын
This tank was designed this way - one crewmember was able to control it fully.
@vEGAlen
@vEGAlen Жыл бұрын
Yo really enjoying your videos started to play this game a couple of days ago and im grinding down the Swedish tree, have they solved something with this tank or is it still broken? Thx for answering best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪
@-Vaida-
@-Vaida- Жыл бұрын
The Bkan 1C and the Spj driving together was kinda cute
@trey1531
@trey1531 Жыл бұрын
My strategy is if you get your transmission or engine damaged, always pop smoke. Also use smoke shells in front of you when your smoke launchers run out.
@seekerpro486
@seekerpro486 Жыл бұрын
i hope your joking
@Dovahkiin520
@Dovahkiin520 Жыл бұрын
It's funny you bring up this vehicles FCS, as it works as intended in WoT. Speaks volumes on Gaijin's part.
@Drummercommander
@Drummercommander Жыл бұрын
The issues you are describing are the reasons why I don't play SPGs in WT in general. It must suck a bit more at higher BRs where there are no casemate TDs left
@MiJi_29
@MiJi_29 Жыл бұрын
The tank that we loved, the tank that we admired, the tank that we were fan of their unique, gone bullied by an edgy Snail
@wierdwesterner
@wierdwesterner Жыл бұрын
"I get quite passionate... especially when I am annoyed" With you on that one, brother. I have killed about 40 keyboards in rage at this game over a decade until about 2 and a half years ago when I decided life was too short and I uninstalled the game. Probably one of the best things I ever did. Don't miss it. Thought I would.
@AfricanHut
@AfricanHut Жыл бұрын
much respect for enduring to make a video of a bad tank and stick through to have 2 decent games. RASPEKT.
@matsbacklund6471
@matsbacklund6471 Жыл бұрын
SLPPRJ= Spårljuspansarprojektil= Tracer AP Projectile. That can be a bit tricky to get right at the beginning. Awesome vids, man.
@OddBawZ
@OddBawZ Жыл бұрын
Shlipjaeger. That's what I said! :)
@dingoe8841
@dingoe8841 Жыл бұрын
i feel like if you destroy the radiator there should be a steam effect for a few seconds which would be a neat detail to simulate the water from the radiator evaporating off the hot engine
@aerostake
@aerostake Жыл бұрын
I don’t think this matters much as they removed the tanks neutral steering so you like said, once the engine/transmission is knocked out, you’re a sitting duck.
@adamhebert5365
@adamhebert5365 Жыл бұрын
Keep the awesome vids coming Odd. Best birthday month I've ever had
@Musty_Moth
@Musty_Moth Жыл бұрын
There are controls for the suspension raising and dropping, leaning forward and back etc, they just come default unbound, go into controls
@Rosaslav
@Rosaslav 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t drive this, but it seems that “disabling vertical aiming during braking” option in settings, could also help this tank a lot
@alaskan_bigfoot9090
@alaskan_bigfoot9090 Жыл бұрын
"aim dude aim! why are you like this?!" so hilarious, after seeing this tank in action its hard to imagine people do well with it.
@Meow_Zedong
@Meow_Zedong Жыл бұрын
You put some real respect on Mister Moon's name with this stellar performance!
@daniel-kun6443
@daniel-kun6443 Жыл бұрын
I think you should watch a documentary on this tank, because if you do you would understand that pretty much every point you've made in the intro to the video, is by design straight from Sweden.
@wulfleyn6498
@wulfleyn6498 Жыл бұрын
Iirc the hull aiming is so smooth on real ones they were able to win against leopard 2s in a mockup battle. It only took about half a second from stopping to aiming and shooting.
@Leapyean
@Leapyean Жыл бұрын
The Strv in IRL is 100% operable with one crew member, a little less effective than it would be with a full crew, so at least that is accurate. My question is "Why is it so bouncy?" Any video you can find online of this tank in action looks nothing like this!
@arctyrus
@arctyrus Жыл бұрын
The STRV 103 was designed as an ambush tank, lying in wait to defend Sweden from prepared (even more!) hulldown positions. Shoot and scoot, for which the rear-facing loader had full controls for the tank. It would shoot (multiple times), run like hell to the next spot and be at it again. It was designed for Sweden, with the Swedish battle tactics in mind. Don't know how good that translates to some of the WT maps tbh. And yes, one man could do the whole show while the other two crew members took a nap... (Edit; 6:25 "the result of spawncamping"... yeah, this. That was the Swedish tactic in a nutshell... ;-) )
@cat8766
@cat8766 Жыл бұрын
The strv 103 has historically 3 second reload instead of 4
@einar8019
@einar8019 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was 2s
@Gustavj0321
@Gustavj0321 Жыл бұрын
According to the RAC Equipments Trial Wing the complete reload cycle took about 2,5 seconds
@95Karlsson
@95Karlsson Жыл бұрын
About 2.8 is what i was told by an old captain who drove one back in the day.
@fusion3865
@fusion3865 Жыл бұрын
it also have a 10 min manual reload
@einar8019
@einar8019 Жыл бұрын
@@fusion3865 10? More like 5m which is better than other tanks
@ivanstanoffski1444
@ivanstanoffski1444 Жыл бұрын
Love the way it poops an empty shell at gaijin in response to your question odd,fookin hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
@MrEmiosk
@MrEmiosk Жыл бұрын
I would love to see accurate suspension controls on this tank. It should be able to hide behind a ridge, use its suspension to rise up, clear the barrel shoot then pop back down.
@zapptastic8781
@zapptastic8781 Жыл бұрын
Thats the one thing I put World of Tanks over Warthunder on is they managed to get this line of tanks right mostly. The Suspension system works like that in WoT.
@SPARTAN_Cayde-26
@SPARTAN_Cayde-26 Жыл бұрын
I noticed a funny thing from kill list, in first battle there was a T-34 who killed a Panther D... in this BR...
@Ljrod95
@Ljrod95 4 ай бұрын
feels like this tank is one of the few who would benefit a lot from using the front attachment to dig itself into a more preferable position and avoid transmission shots
@henryoleary6212
@henryoleary6212 Жыл бұрын
the cool thing is it can actually be operated by 1 crew member, which is cool.
@WoutjeNLD
@WoutjeNLD Жыл бұрын
Hey Odd, the new intro's are very good!
@fedosforsure
@fedosforsure Жыл бұрын
IRL strv 103s could be controlled fully by any crew member, swedish even planned on making it only 2 crewed originally, but workload irl would be immense otherwise. So mechanic that you need to knock out 3/3 crew to destroy tank isn't a gaijin fix, it's how it was irl
@jacobbrown7367
@jacobbrown7367 Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem is designed purpose versus game play mechanics. The Strv was designed as a cold war defense tank. The extremely low profile, the massive gun, high speed, and low crew minimums was to make it the ultimate ambush tank. Which is where it comes in conflict with WG game mechanics. If you're exchanging fire then you're already in serious trouble. It's almost exclusively a tank to be set up for ambush engagements
@canned__meat
@canned__meat Жыл бұрын
Hey Odd. I had a bit of a look and it seems you've not done a video on the German M48A2 G. There's a video there on it's predecessor but, not the 8.0 variant. Be cool to showcase it I think as it is a damn fine vehicle. ☺️☺️
@ssxbarbarian9222
@ssxbarbarian9222 Жыл бұрын
I see one every game now lol. Thanks for the vid bud.
@NagoyaRR
@NagoyaRR 8 ай бұрын
The aim should just have STAB when hull aiming is turned on so the crosshair just sticks prefectly and doesn't wobble around like it does now.
@Lancista
@Lancista 11 ай бұрын
*_"Fuel Armor" is the best!_* *_This very "thing" was the sole inspiration for the Merkava Series of IDF._* 🤗
@3x4n.
@3x4n. 8 ай бұрын
As a Swede, it is not called ostrich-wagon.
@Mamiya645
@Mamiya645 Жыл бұрын
"Oh no the surface I'm standing on has a lean angle of 5 degrees or more, I guess I will become completely broken useless to play with and dependent on luck" - THANKS GAIJIN, REAL COOL. Also see how the two engines are still treated as a single system (ahistorical) and the internal spall shield is still all wrong (ahistorical) and it can use HESH (ahistorical) and it scoots back on recoil (ahistorical) and the reload times (ahistorical, actual just over 2 seconds, 4 sec required to settle back on target (computerized)). At least it benefits from old players leaving so people barely know how to disable an Strv 103..
@airreywilliams6529
@airreywilliams6529 Жыл бұрын
The tank IRL could operate with only one crew member, it was designed to do so. I’m glad they finally implemented that into the game. Reload is faster irl too
@SentokuLC
@SentokuLC Жыл бұрын
I like the premium one it fits my playstyle. I don't like being seen but also a punchy yet quick fire gun
@7Stormwalker
@7Stormwalker Жыл бұрын
Did not expect a video where the Strv just waltzes into the centre cap to start blasting fools
@Mark_The_Chemist
@Mark_The_Chemist Жыл бұрын
The problem is the STRV 103s were never designed to be assault tanks. They were designed to sit in a defensive spot and pick off advancing armor...ideally in a bottleneck like a mountain pass (think of Swedish geography). A platoon of these could stop an armored brigade for a LONG time if they had the right positions.
@alexanderstenmark8838
@alexanderstenmark8838 Жыл бұрын
Well, yes. But the Strv-103 had faster target acquisition and engagement reaction times than Leopard 1 MBT's as found in the Norwegian trials. There's no reason for the tank to violenty wiggle and not be able to aim, especially on any kind of hill.
@OddBawZ
@OddBawZ Жыл бұрын
This is not true. It was designed as an MBT. It even did trials fighting in urban environments.
@sethdaboss245
@sethdaboss245 Жыл бұрын
@@OddBawZ so what its literally one of the most op tanks? Like wtf aM I supposed to do if I dont have HEAT or APFSDS? I die to this thing so much in Maus, Object 279, and more.
@Armgoth
@Armgoth Жыл бұрын
@@OddBawZ I got to second the original comment it was a MBT for Sweden but still the military doctrine of the time was based on attrition of enemy. Inspiration for this tank is in part for the Finnish success with StuGs in WWII in very much the same type of geography as Sweden.
@OddBawZ
@OddBawZ Жыл бұрын
@@sethdaboss245 Lower plate. Then it's done for. He can't aim at you anymore.
@oskar_2114
@oskar_2114 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, slpprj stands for: Spårljuspansarprojetil. In english it would be: Tracer (anti) armour projectile. Or basically Tracer AP
@Veryfutile
@Veryfutile 7 ай бұрын
Imagine watching gameplay few years old and think it's from now ;)
@klikboers
@klikboers Жыл бұрын
A pack of these working in unison with some sort of AA gun watching over them would be devastating
@paulsilva3346
@paulsilva3346 Жыл бұрын
I've started stocking more HE rounds to knock down trees etc., and save my main ammo for actual armor.!
@foamyflightmaster9385
@foamyflightmaster9385 Жыл бұрын
Persistent frustration pays off sometimes
@malusdarkblade1190
@malusdarkblade1190 Жыл бұрын
Defensive tank designed for peaking the crest of hill using command e r to spot then moving up till sniper sight is on then shoot and most times it's level with crest of hill makes it har to see from a level or lower position good design but hard to master
@Gorn21
@Gorn21 Жыл бұрын
Pretty new to WT but how is your rangefinder instantly callibrating the gun after it know how far away the target is or is that an high br feature?
@LNZT
@LNZT Жыл бұрын
I play the strv103-0 because its a fun br and you can earn pretty much from it as well. But the system how it aims and such needs improvment, now they even made it slower to turn and not only that somehow slower to tilt forwards and backwards, useless update which only makes it so you can’t do the fun wiggles. It also is kind of bad since people hit the transmission all the time, I always die to them shooting the transmission or engine.
@superliogaming
@superliogaming Жыл бұрын
I love this type of intro!
@backlog2389
@backlog2389 Жыл бұрын
These tanks are actually pretty good. Just drive them up on an overlook hill and become terminator. Liker literally, the most obvious sniper positions you can think of on any map, this thing excels at using. You have a 4 sec reload, really good armor, and extremely good sighting. You can eassily get 10 kill games with these tanks, but on uban maps... they're pretty useless.
@Viking88Power
@Viking88Power Жыл бұрын
You should do video on the AEC mk II !
@Zretgul_timerunner
@Zretgul_timerunner Жыл бұрын
Actually the strv103 can be operated by 1 person one of its intentional design choices. Its also designed to be a defensive tank used behind hills or predug positions to peak out fire then scoot Thus why it has both a forward and backwards drive position.
@gunsashootin8954
@gunsashootin8954 Жыл бұрын
2:20 I think that's how it goes for the German squeeze boi which only has 2 crewmen
@Madmoody21
@Madmoody21 Жыл бұрын
I find fault with the statement of " this should not double ace" . You have godly map knowledge and vision, and you have good spotting. Playing against your team must feel like facing a wall hacker.
@Tom-eq5bz
@Tom-eq5bz Жыл бұрын
INTROS ON POINT !
@lietuvospatriotasnr1678
@lietuvospatriotasnr1678 Жыл бұрын
i love the new into keep it up odd
@hardbassguycze157
@hardbassguycze157 Жыл бұрын
Welp, as soviet 7.0 player I hate when i have to play uptiers against sweeden, Im 95% sure there will be atleast one strv 103 camping on the other side of the map shooting every thing it sees. If you have any idea how to counter these things, let me know please.
@emergency_broadcast_system
@emergency_broadcast_system Жыл бұрын
I always bring full ammo on this thing since if you get hit in the ammo you're dead regardless due to how it's stored or where someone has to be to hit it
@fagalon9152
@fagalon9152 Жыл бұрын
4:47 Got his radiator, cool? How can he be cool you've just knocked out his radiator he's aboutta be swelterin 😂
@yaalpi
@yaalpi Жыл бұрын
2:40, and that stil rarely have sort of any survivability simply because of how apdsfs penetrate the whole vehicle ending up at the ammo in the back that literly allways detonates...
@zerrierslizer1
@zerrierslizer1 Жыл бұрын
i've driven a real STRV 103-C and i can tell you that they are MUCH more reliable in real life then in this game lol. it can legit be driven, shot and maintained by a single man! and BTW, it's only known as the "Cheese wedge of doom" in games. IRL we called it the "Angry Swedish Doorstopper."
@FettaCheese717
@FettaCheese717 Жыл бұрын
In my experience grinding the 103’s I’ve always had better luck in the C because at 8.3 the early APFSDS rounds have less pen than the HEAT at 7.7, so it always felt a lot more tanky at 8.3. Sure up tiers you died easily as you do in almost all tanks, but those down tiers to me really made up for it. I also remember with the very first initial introduction of the tank the hull aim was fine, idk why it keeps getting worse, maybe it’s the spaghetti code
@BernGrylls
@BernGrylls Жыл бұрын
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