Misleading title. "Add more layers" is not fixing a 2 layer. Also ignores cost and delivery benefits. I'd like to see some real "2 layer fixes"
@onesimpleneed8 ай бұрын
Yep. Been doing this 36 years and get all sorts of work on reducing cost by reducing layer counts. Good designers first place everything correctly, then run their power and ground and critical traces and then everything else. I can do on two layers what other people need 4 and even 6 layers to do.
@AlbertRei342428 күн бұрын
@@onesimpleneeddo you know about return path?
@rewq70418 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative sharing, Peterson. When first looking at the topic, I think that the content will be some techniques about 2-layer PCB routing, but it is not. I agree that moving to 4-layer PCB is the general solution to many problems we encounter in 2-layer PCB layout, but in many low cost applications, this approach will not be considered due to cost and lead time issues. Even in some industrial grade or medical grade open frame power supplies, single layer or 2-layer PCB stackup is used, and they meet the class B EMI standard with margin. I am interested at these designs and the grounding techniques, like the co-planar signal track design with proper ground gridding, in 2-layer PCB applications.
@Zachariah-Peterson8 ай бұрын
I understand but the video was meant to be about some instances where 4 layer might be better due to the speed/noise problems faced in some systems or when modifying the 2-layer to have ground fill is an option, especially when there are a lot of digital components. In many instances 2 layer is fine if you design it appropriately, or you just might have to accept more noise as long as you don't fail EMI. For 2 layer the solution is usually coplanar ground fill but that solution may not work when you get to more advanced designs like much higher speed/higher frequencies. If you want a video specifically on 2-layer grounding I can get it into our queue.
@Karthik_Selvam8 ай бұрын
Hi Zach it's really useful. Also I looked out your article on the pcb design magazine. I love it sir. Thanks for providing good information 👍😊
@Graham_Wideman8 ай бұрын
2:00 Talks about the problem of crosstalk between parallel traces and possible radiated emissions. Zach first suggests orthogonal routing to prevent this, but doesn't explain why that would help either problem. It seems to me that the several signals still have to get from component A to component B, and to do so have to run parallel to each other, whether using random routing or ortho routing. In other videos on this channel, the recommendation is to space traces farther apart if they need to run parallel. To gain enough space to do so might entail putting some of the parallel traces on the other side of the board (ie: contradicting ortho routing). The other recommendation Zach makes is to go to a 4-layer board. Of course that always helps everything 🙂except cost, but specifically in this case how does it help reduce crosstalk between these parallel traces? I guess part of it is in shielding top traces from bottom traces. Also, the ground planes will attract the electric field lines from the individual traces, so that they impinge less on neighboring parallel traces. It also provides a better-defined and closer transient return current path, resulting in less magnetic emission impinging on the neighboring parallel traces. But still trace spacing will be an important contributor.
@adrianmoldovan27938 ай бұрын
What a great and informative video. Lerned a lot from this. Great work! Congratulations!
@AltiumAcademy8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@r4yguzman1908 ай бұрын
tutorials on PSpice simulations for beginners would be good.
@fouzifouz34124 ай бұрын
hello sir ...im a beginner and i just want to know a thing .... how can we move different elements throw different layers without causing problems ..thank you
@Zachariah-Peterson4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by "move different elements through different layers," are you referring to routing in multiple layers?
@user-tl2yf8vy4v5 ай бұрын
Good afternoon Can you tell me if the intersection of polygons of different names is allowed? Example: Layer 2 is analog ground, and layer 3 is digital ground?
@Zachariah-Peterson5 ай бұрын
What you are describing is the usage of two polygons with different nets on different layers. The system will always allow you to do this. If you have two polygons with different nets on the same layer, then the polygons will pour around each other. You can manage the pour order in the Polygon Manager dialog, this will allow you to choose which of the intersecting polygons gets cleared out when being poured.
@shubhamsamal67128 ай бұрын
Sir How to send board design to review and receive comment on it
@AltiumAcademy8 ай бұрын
You can send it to Zach on LinkedIn here: www.linkedin.com/in/zachariah-peterson/
@bitstobytes088 ай бұрын
@@AltiumAcademy Thankyou sir
@bitstobytes088 ай бұрын
Sir. can you suggset some books for pcb designing that includes all the factors for designing pcb like an expert
@Zachariah-Peterson8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there have not been some good new books prepared on this in a long time. But I can give you some direction to help you get started: Printed Circuits Handbook, by Clyde Coombs BGA Breakouts and Routing, by Charles Pfiel High Speed Digital Design, by Howard Johnson and Martin Graham
@bitstobytes088 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for refering three books @@Zachariah-Peterson
@salh26658 ай бұрын
❤❤❤شكرا التوم ❤❤❤
@rfrisbee18 ай бұрын
There might be some milage for a whole series of videos like this one. I.e. "N layer PCB fixes" videos which each suggest the fix being to go to a N+2 layer PCB. 😉
@AltiumAcademy8 ай бұрын
Great suggestion!
@Zachariah-Peterson8 ай бұрын
Haha! What about N-2 layer fixes? Like layer consolidation under a BGA, which is something I had to do recently.
@rfrisbee18 ай бұрын
@@Zachariah-Peterson That would be interesting to see and certainly much more challenging than increasing layer count.
@jorditribo948 ай бұрын
The most common 2 layer PCB mistake is to make a 2 layer PCB.
@AltiumAcademy8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@adriftfoolish12 ай бұрын
tldr; don't use 2-layer boards
@Zachariah-Peterson2 ай бұрын
I've shown examples on the channel of 2 layer boards I created, 2 layer boards are fine for a lot of things.