The Most Compact Ultralight 2-Pot Cook Kit NOBODY is Talking About

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

Nice set-up. I'm still on the Toaks 750ml kit @ 15oz with the bail & lid, a Toaks spork, an MSR2 stove, an MSR piezo ignitor, an MSR 110g fuel can and a scrub pad, but I also carry a 450ml cup (+2.7oz) that I pack with my food so it's effectively taking up no space in my pack besides just displacing the thickness of the cup itself which amounts to practically zero.

[@BorealWilderness]

Another variation to this kit is the D103 bowl + 750. Allows for more space to store the stove and some little condiment containers. But your kit sounds good too. Whatever works, works!

[@mcapaldi3]

This is awesome! Great thinking. I might being using this. Always wanted a better way to have my coffee with breakfast.

[@BorealWilderness]

Glad you found some of the ideas useful :)

[@borealphoto]

I've always hated having to wait to finish my second cup before packing my pot and the small objects in it. Now I use a 420ml cup for coffee that nests a Smartwater bottle in a side pocket. It also serves as a water scoop, to mix flavor crystals, and makes it easier to put the water bottle back in place.

[@BorealWilderness]

That's a properly good idea! My only concern is that the nasties carry over from scooping? ...and also (at least for me) my bottle's exterior is not exactly clean. I put it down everywhere 😅 But space wise that does sound very efficient.

[@borealphoto]

​@@BorealWilderness I rarely need a scoop or mix drink but it's there. Not having my pack half open with a bunch of small objects out is the main benefit for me. I also went from a plastic mug to metal so it can go on a flame. It does get dirty but it's easy to clean. I could always hang it from the pack, like the enamel cups of yesteryears.

[@GeekfromYorkshire]

@@borealphoto Also any Ti pot you can sterilize it by simply using over a flame, if no water in it then only briefly. That's one argument to keep to Ti bowls rather than say plastic. In the Toaks range the D103 fits outside D95 or inside D115 and D118 outside the D115 so make your desired 2 or 3 pot nested system.

[@jpriddle]

Love it. And I believe the Toaks bag is designed to be a pot grabber, too.

[@dfx7105]

And wash cloth

[@BorealWilderness]

These bags are typically made from polyester, if I'm not mistaken. It softens and melts around 200+C (400+F). So if a pot was in the fire and the flames were licking up the sides, there is a good chance the handle wires would be above that temp and melt on contact. If just a gas or alcohol burner is used with a well controlled flame which doesn't touch the wires then it should be fine as titanium is a horrible conductor of heat and thus will be relatively cool.

[@larryl4881]

That’s a nice ultra light solo cook kit. I love my alcohol stove from toaks and hiked with mine for over 3k miles and still rocking.

[@BorealWilderness]

Alco is great too. I have a diy tomcat stove which I can swap in with this kit. Hvnt dialed it in yet tho. Glad to know the toaks alco burner is a good bet. May get one in the future. They make solid products.

[@Obi-Wan_Pierogi]

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for! I've just purchased both

[@BorealWilderness]

Glad it was inspirational 😄

[@k.whiking4372]

I have both of tose pots, but have never thought of using them together. Thank you.

[@BorealWilderness]

They do make and awesome pair. Hope you like what they have to offer.

[@curtwinterstein1067]

Great stuff! I have a suggestion: To keep the lid from slipping into the pot I would take a stick, chopstick, long nail etc and thread it through the lid handle... Orrr... go borrow the Sasquatch next to your camp and have him hold the lid for you! You see? Problem solved! :D

[@BorealWilderness]

Lol. Interesting suggestions, Curt. Solution vid dropping this Friday 😁 I think old Quatchy will be happy to know he no longer needs to hold the lid

[@stewedfishproductions7959]

Am I the only one who winced, with the 'metal-on-metal' scraping of the cups? LOL!

[@BorealWilderness]

😅😬

[@stewedfishproductions7959]

@@BorealWilderness - OBVIOUSLY, YES !!! 😕👍🤣🤣🤣 🇬🇧

[@terryshrives8322]

That is a nice little setup. I think I’ll try it. Thank you for sharing

[@BorealWilderness]

Vid on the lid I found for the D103 BWL just dropped. Check it out!

[@jctedsap]

First time watching and I really like that kit.

[@johnpalmer6822]

nice set up. Might look at Batchstovez Imusa 10cm pot lid.

[@BorealWilderness]

They do look nice.

[@felixcat9318]

Very, Very, Nicely Done! Thank you for sharing, its always wonderful to find that perfect combination, especially in cookware, and this is outstanding, subscribed.

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

Very nice. Let’s face it, it’s all the coffee. 👍🏼

[@BorealWilderness]

😅 yes. Coffee. Waddya gonna do 😁

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

@@BorealWilderness If you make a custom lid out of “flashing” you can buy at a hardware store, you can make a lid that weighs less than the Toaks lid and is still durable. 👍🏼

[@BorealWilderness]

@@E_Clampus_Vitus that's true. I have a nice aluminium lid for my trek900 pot made out of a cheap cake pan base. Totally doable. Very cheap and lightweight too. I think I mentioned in the vid, I did this just coz I wanted to try and see if I could. From a practicality standpoint, it's definitely unnecessary.

[@E_Clampus_Vitus]

@@BorealWilderness I would cold soak in hot weather. I did it on the TRT and actually even enjoyed it. The problem is giving up hot coffee and that a major problem, as you know.

[@archfxcreative]

I would just nest the 750ml and the 550ml D103 at the bottom , that way you have a perfect 2 cup kit with a perfect lid. No metal to metal scraping 🤙🏼

[@BorealWilderness]

That can work as well but this arrangement is smaller than a 750...and expandable as shown. I get that some people find that metal to metal sound offensive...more than I initially thought tbh. But I'm fine with it. Also, if you wana keep this form factor but not have metal to metal, just flip the 550 lite and nest it in the D103. You'll get the same no-metal-scrapping-sound interface as with your proposed config :)

[@archfxcreative]

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[@johnalexander8614]

I have almost the same kit right down to the coffee filter. But I turn the fuel can upside down and nest it in a small zip lock full of coffee. And the concave bottom holds stove, lighter and more

[@BorealWilderness]

That's a great idea. I'll give it a shot! Thank you. You're the first person I know of using this combination btw 😅

[@BorealWilderness]

What do you use for a lid?

[@johnalexander8614]

@@BorealWilderness I use the 750s lid, where our systems differ is the cup as I use a gsi collapsible cup which give the gsi coffee filter protection .I stack them on top of 750 and hold in place with an elastic.

[@BorealWilderness]

What's the weight of the GSI cup? Is it the one with the handle? I did previously use the sea to summit collapsible cup but it was tippy due to the conical design and also it was heavier. Because of these factors it was retired from camping and became my travel cup. But it recently developed a leak at one of the folds. With that ends my collapsible cup days I guess.

[@johnalexander8614]

@@BorealWilderness no handle on this model, a bit heavy at 2.6oz. With coffee and fuel the kit is over a pound. I may switch to your setup and figure out the lid

[@drytool]

Never saw the bowl before. Thanks!

[@BorealWilderness]

Yeah. I can't understand why it's not talked about more either 🤷‍♂️

[@GeekfromYorkshire]

The lid from the D115 fits the D103 pot snuggly by accident, doubt from design, the inside of the D115 lid ridge fits snuggly the outside of the D103. Obviously the lid is hanging over the sides. This may not be ideal for your D95 550 + D103 550, but it works well in a different config - arguably better for cookign where stirring of food needs a bigger pot so not to spill of the 900 D115 fits within the D103 550 (which itself has no lid ) but that D103 550 can be used with the D115 lid to keep contents within such as when boiling.

[@BorealWilderness]

That's good info!

[@MyADV360]

Great little kit you've put together, very nice 👍

[@MyADV360]

Unfortunately the D130 link doesn't work, maybe discontinued or currently out of stock.

[@BorealWilderness]

Thanks for pointing that out. It's still available. I've updated the link. It should work now :)

[@MyADV360]

@@BorealWilderness there it is!

[@unfi6798]

Great kit mate. Perhaps in the future you can improve it by doing some mods to it. Tha's what we did. It's durable & weigh less but most of all affordable. Good luck.!

[@BorealWilderness]

Thanks. Working on the cover and a tiny wind blocker. Will post updates as I figure em out

[@CALIZONAOUTDOORS]

Nice kit! Thanks for sharing!

[@stewedfishproductions7959]

Just subscribed... ONLY to see if you do a 'nails-on-a-chalkboard' camping trip review...

[@taber247]

Boil water in your 550ml UL lidded cup, decant into the 550ml bowel set up Java Drip on the cup, pour in the water. Slightly off boil water is better for coffee I believe. (Tea man myself). Lid problem solved. Thanks for sharing Just Subscribed. Take care

[@BorealWilderness]

Thanks for the sub! Yes, that is absolutely an option when using gas / alcohol. But I want to be able to use the bowl and it's long handles to be able to stick it properly over a campfire to boil as well. Campfires are doable with the short handles but the long handles on the bowl definitely make it better. I've got a solution in the works for about 7 dollars all in. Just got to find the time. Stay tuned 😎

[@TheMckenzie99]

sweet set up nice thanks for sharing!

[@stuartb9194]

Cut the handle off a GSI plastic cup and it sits perfectly inside the Toaks 750. Room inside for cooker and wind shield. Sorted

[@BorealWilderness]

I prefer having handles on my cup. Also, don't think the gas can will fit in the GSI. It then won't be a stand alone single-piece kit anymore as the gas can will have to be kept separate.

[@anneliesevoelker2502]

I want on of these!

[@BorealWilderness]

Go for it! Lid vid dropping this Friday 😁

[@codygadd3303]

Just in case you didn’t know your coffee filer is designed to fit into the bottom of your fuel tanks bottom indention

[@BorealWilderness]

I didn't know that. Will try it out. Thanks!

[@anton_gavrilov]

This is exactly the video I was looking for. I'm also looking for the best solution to have 2 pots with me, one for noodles and one for coffee, and want them all to nest within each other and be able to put a gas canister as well. The bowl definitely needs a proper size lead. My stove is large and will not fit inside but 750ml pot is too big for coffee, and storing my stove separately is okay, it's better to store the stove separately than a canister. Is someone going to make a perfect kit for people like us? There are no ideal options on the market. I've already spent 2 days looking.

[@BorealWilderness]

What stove are you using?

[@anton_gavrilov]

​@@BorealWilderness It's a budget Korean stove, not sold in the US. I'm thinking about replacing it with WindMaster.

[@BorealWilderness]

@@anton_gavrilov that's an awesome stove. It should fit in sideways, no?

[@anton_gavrilov]

@@BorealWilderness it's similar to Snow Peak LiteMax but isn't made of titanium and has large arms that don't fold which is why it doesn't fit sideways and takes all the space even though it's pretty small and light

[@BorealWilderness]

@@anton_gavrilov check out @evacoutdoors5867 's vid on his windmaster + toaks 750. It can fit....but just...

[@themunrobagger]

Nice little set up 👍

[@dangerpudge1922]

For the lid to work on the larger, shorter pot: The most simple solution is to take a very small punch and make a couple of dimples from the outside of the pot, just below the lip, to make some protrusions. They don't need to be deep at all, and it won't add weight or affect the fit or function of the pots together. Alternatively, you could either get a sheet of silicone or a silicone O-ring that will fit just around the depression of the lid; this should increase the surface area on the edge to prevent it flipping into the fluid. The final thought would be to simply make a couple of dots of silicone with some RTV on the lid or pot, but this may impact cleaning (you could knock them off if the bond isn't tight enough to the surface). One final option would be to slightly deform the lip of the lid (maybe crimp a 'V' in a couple of spots around the lip) to also increase the surface size and once again preventing the lid from rotating. Thanks for sharing! I've seen some recent kits that have multiple nesting pots for a great price that might offer good solutions. Also, while I've been working to slim down my kit (a Toakes 750, 110g fuel, and BRS 3000T burner) I found that using the bottom part of my Esbit pot system, which is a natural wind-block and also allows me to use biofuel, fits perfectly inside the pot and allows me to use Esbit fuel tabs. This solution is more compact and lighter than the canister and works in all weather, and allows me much more room to store other things inside the pot as well. On my scale, the pot with a silicone ring around it, the orange Toakes cover, the lid, the Esbit pot stand, 4 Esbit tablets (in an ESD bag... they're durable and don't let the smell out), comes to a grand total of 244g (8.5oz). Fully packed, I load it with collapsable a Jetboil fork and spoon, a hot lips silicon lip, a garden-variety bic lighter, a pack of instant coffee (though regular wouldn't be much different), and brown sugar and powdered milk, which comes to 393g (13.9oz). Of that, 103oz of coffee/milk/sugar are expected to be consumed, along with at least one Esbit tablet. Even with all that in it, there's still room at the top. Why Esbit tabs? I really love the compressed gas, and even alcohol options, but these work at any altitude (I live at over 7k' /2,134m) and typically go a good bit higher for adventure, and this also eliminates issues in extreme cold environments (I find myself doing more and more winter camping, which here can often be between freezing and 0F (-17.8C).

[@walkerone9833]

Adding the dimples is a great suggestion. I did that with my Toaks 900 ml. pot lid to make it "snap" on good and tight some time ago. Just don't over-punch it. One on each side did the trick.I Always keep Esbit tabs for a back up. I ordered a ton of them some years ago when they were going for $.30/pc. Still good.

[@BorealWilderness]

Thanks for the suggestion and alternative view. There's always a new way to optimize

[@underdgk9]

Very well thought ot system, but what about wind protection? I agree that the 3D orange bags are useful, they make a good pot scrubber too!

[@BorealWilderness]

Currently it's just a bit of foil which I didn't show. I'm working on something a little "nicer". Hope to share that once it's done (if it pans out)

[@JasperJanssen]

For the lid, lazy mode: tie a piece of not very flammable cord to the handle, so if it falls in you can get it out?

[@BorealWilderness]

The thing is, it can wedge in nice and proper if it goes in the right (wrong) way. Not wanting to wrestle with that whilst submerged in potentially boiling water

[@warden1969]

Re the lid issue, I know it’s a bit brutal but, as it’s so close, could you take a hammer to the lid at 3-6-9-12 o’clock and flatten/widen it by that small amount to prevent it falling in…??

[@BorealWilderness]

The metal is only 0.3mm thick as it stands. Thinning it out further to gain a couple of mm in diameter would result in the rim becoming very thin to the point it will be more foil than sheet and also possibly become a safety risk - sharp edge. I did however find another lid which fits nicely. There's a vid on it too. Do check it out. It's linked in the description :)

[@patriciaribaric3409]

Very nice!!!

[@gilbertmedina1837]

Have you tried using the Rota Locura CF lid? I have a 550 light and there may be enough lip on that lid to work with the wider pot

[@allemander]

He mentions that lid in this video and also states why he doesn’t use it.

[@BorealWilderness]

Hi Gilbert, I mentioned that the CF lid would not survive in the camp fires - I do use em there from time to time. I'll take the critical measurements needed for a lid to work. I'll make sure it drops on the 7th of Oct. Would appreciate if you could check if the Ruta Locura lid is suitable as it one uses just gas / alcohol, the CF lid is a solid option.....if it fits 🤞

[@gilbertmedina1837]

@@BorealWilderness OK, I must have missed that. Edit*** I took a quick measurement of the OD, and it looks like 109mm. I can get a more accurate measurement for you later, my digital calipers must be in my bag at the office.

[@BorealWilderness]

Hi Gilbert. Just dropped the vid with the critical dimensions of the lid. Do check it out. Would appreciate your feedback on the fit of the Ruta Locura lid. Cheers!

[@christophersherratt7299]

The fix is to roll the top end of the biggest cup over a couple of mm you will find that's the cure hope this helps you don't stress 😉

[@BorealWilderness]

Reducing the ID of the bowl would defeat the primary purpose of this kit - nesting. Problem solving is not stressful. Solving shortfalls/optimizing is half the fun of putting a kit together 🙂 Also, titanium is not malleable like aluminium or silver etc so "rolling down" (which requires specialty tools+ lathe) or hammering will not result in a clean result. Even if I wanted to go this path, I'd first have to remove (cut off) the rolled bead edge, heat and roll the new edge etc. which would be way more work than just getting a suitable lid sorted for the existing diameter. It can be cold formed but takes a lot more work....plus then there's work hardening etc. to deal with.... 😅

[@anneliesevoelker2502]

I want one!

[@BorealWilderness]

Go for it! Lid vid dropping this Friday, the 30th. It's almost done 😄

[@anneliesevoelker2502]

@@BorealWilderness I have been trying to find a smaller more compact stove for years.

[@BorealWilderness]

@@anneliesevoelker2502 for a stove, can't go much smaller than the BRS3000T

[@anneliesevoelker2502]

@@BorealWilderness you can't make large meals on a long hike. Those of us that have done long hikes know you don't carry meals. Typically these stoves are just used for boiling water.

[@BorealWilderness]

@@anneliesevoelker2502 agreed. It's for dehydrated/freeze dried meals / coffee. That's about it

[@anneli1735]

17:28 did you mention „it nests in a typical 900“?

[@BorealWilderness]

The D103 550ml (the one in the vid) nests in a typical 900. The D118 however won't.

[@anneli1735]

@@BorealWilderness Thanks for your helpful information!!!

[@SovereignSymphony]

Do you have a link to your little silicone grabber?

[@BorealWilderness]

It's just a dollar store pot grabber (the one that looks like a half mitten) that I cut a panel out of. It was maybe RM3?....which works out to about USD0.50. You can get two panels from each one so my cost per grabber is just 25 cents 😁

[@KungFuTweety1]

Cool!

[@ExitTheMatrixVR]

Can you use toaks 1300ml pot on open fire

[@BorealWilderness]

I could. But that'd be mighty big. Not something I would carry. Largest personal pot I take out is my 900ml :)

[@robertlowe1962]

Put a seal around the rim and it will not drop into the pot

[@BorealWilderness]

I use my pots in campfires too so I'd prefer to avoid flammable materials. I've found a lid that fits perfectly. Just have not had time to share it yet. Will get to it as soon as I can. Thanks for the suggestion tho. Would definitely work for some just using gas. What type of seal would you recommend?

[@dirtyscoundrel2013]

Nice kit! Presentation was a bit long and wordy. Liked and subbed.

[@kitasaunders]

Thats a really tiny burner, what make is it buddy?

[@BorealWilderness]

That's the BRS-3000T. Super tiny, less than an oz and cheap too.

[@jctedsap]

Where do you get the mini fuel containers?

[@jctedsap]

Already found the answer, REI has the fuel.

[@BorealWilderness]

Most outfitters too :)

[@jctedsap]

REI won’t ship fuel.

[@jctedsap]

@@BorealWilderness We have a Cabela’s locally but they are out of stock. I guess I will keep looking at other outfitters. Walmart shows them online but at an extremely inflated price.

[@randyyeager]

personally, I don't think size matters when it comes to gear. Weight, ok, but size, not really. The difference in weight when you go from one size to the other is so minimal. I get you "hikers" like everything to be crazy minimal but theirs's a point when you over do it, or in this case under do it. And the reason I put "hikers" in brackets is because I think if you speed though nature you're missing the point of being out their and might as well be walking on an indoor track.

[@BorealWilderness]

There's a time and a place for everything. We have different objectives at different times. If you watched the whole vid, you'd have heard that I do have a 900 which I use when the walk it the point and I carry in food to cook. At other times we try to target certain miles. Size then does matter coz that ties into space which then which contributes to weight....or takes space from for other stuff. The 550 is more than sufficient for rehydration too so its not really compromising on function either...just that there's less margin. All the same I'm glad you stopped by and took the time to share your views.

[@ydx6179]

Mug ukuran berapa?

[@BorealWilderness]

Mug mana satu? Dalam vid ada bagi ukuran satu per satu. Website Toaks juga ada maklumat in untuk setiap produk mereka.

[@Sylvanas72]

maybe wrap a piece of aluminum foil around the lid to make it fit.

[@BorealWilderness]

It'll accumulate crud and also not be a permanent fix which will probably always be falling off. Am quite happy with my current set up :)

[@Semeion7]

You shouldn't rub metal like that, it always releases microparticles and you end up ingesting it, and then my friend is where the health problems that lead to hospitals begin.

[@BorealWilderness]

Our cornflakes are magnetic (as is our blood) and we put titanium in our prosthetics for a reason - it's non-reactive. Microplastics however are definitely a problem (which we unfortunately still do ingest due to its presence in the entire food chain). Micro bits of titanium is definitely not a problem. As it's non-reactive it's like swallowing chewing gum or a seed. Just comes out the other end.

[@GavTatu]

nice kit... but i'm not a gas man at all.

[@BorealWilderness]

Thank you. To each their own 🤜🤛

[@xboil]

You don't know the X-Boil😉

[@BorealWilderness]

No, I don't. Pray tell, which of your products would tick all these boxes?

[@BorealWilderness]

So.....none of em?

[@xboil]

@@BorealWilderness Sorry for my late reply on KZbin, I wrote to you on Instagram. If your Titan Bowl has 103mm diameter on the bottom, it fits in the X-Boil FS 90-100.

[@BorealWilderness]

That's an alcohol burner and windshield. Not what this kit is about but it's an objectively nice design. What's the boil time?

[@xboil]

@@BorealWilderness take a look at this video at 3:45 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZCbhn97pM5gn8U You got more space in your cook system. The X-Boil is one of the fastest alcohol cooking system. But time is not important outside in the nature.

[@marct9942]

What does that mean? Nobody is talking about. Who should be talking about it?

[@BorealWilderness]

Nobody. Anybody. Somebody. Lol. It's just that when I made the video I had not seen anybody talk about this particular combination. I even purchased the 103 bowl based on dimensions, hoping that it would work. However, since then I posted the vid I think someone has shared in the comments that somebody else had actually talked about it in passing but did not really go into the specifics, dimensions, interactions with details, etc.

[@marct9942]

@@BorealWilderness Not sure where you're getting this . I purchased one 2 yrs ago. and they are a top seller on Amazon. Numerous reviews.

[@BorealWilderness]

@@marct9942 never said its not available or a rare item even. Just that it's not that talked about - the combination. You have to understand, the US is not the world. Amazon is not a global thing. The rest of the world does not use Amazon so those reviews may be common knowledge to y'all, but not to billions of other people. We (the majority of planet earth) typically rely on more global resources like KZbin and some forums...where mention and discussion of this combination was not common at the time of the video.

[@marct9942]

@@BorealWilderness I don't live in the USA, I live in Europe

[@csllq]

​@@marct9942Same reasoning, my friend. Wherever you are, you are not the reference point. We all come from different places. Peace.

[@mathieutallard6328]

Looing for solid fuel like wood. Don t want gas.

[@BorealWilderness]

If you want a wood stove that nests in this set-up, the TOAKS STV-12 (Small) will work.

[@mathieutallard6328]

@@BorealWilderness Thanks I will check it out. I'm trying to find a simple way to heat up the watercell x for a hot shower if I camp on the road. Looking also for a folding pot that the flame from the stove won't melt the pot.

[@BorealWilderness]

@@mathieutallard6328 how many liters of water are you looking to heat? The STV-12 is only good for small volumes, i.e. meal prep. I'd imagine showers need a decent bit more

[@mathieutallard6328]

@@BorealWilderness The watercell x is 4 liters. For fun, at home, under the sun, it heats well but on the road, if i full it up a couple of hours before camping, it won t work even if i travel only in the tropics ! The Sea to Summit folding pot looks great but the silicon has to be away of flames.....and i don t want to carry a gas tank for something i m gonna use not that often. I might camp more if i can enjoy a shower but still, in countries i travel, accomodations are cheap. But when i did camp, if i could had a hot shower, it would have been great. That s why i bought the watercell x.

[@BorealWilderness]

I just looked at the product. It's made from 400d fabric. How do you intend to heat the water in it with fire?

[@jeffdur1330]

Literally everyone has known about this for years.

[@BorealWilderness]

You're probably right considering the D103 has been out for roughly 4 years now. Just that I have not heard any in my circle nor seen a vid speak about this particular combo. Everyone talks about a 95mm diameter either nesting with a 900ml or 450ml (narrow cup). All the same, glad that you and your group are well clued in on this. Cheers :)

[@juswiffin8380]

I'm new to figuring out what nests with what. Maybe I'm an outlier idk.