The most CONTROVERSIAL method in MATCH FISHING! 😱👀 | The ultimate guide to overshotted rigs

[@vincedowling4777]

I am very old school and would never fish like this but this lad is so good at explaining things I would always watch anything he did. As an example he explain about not just going out shallow but plumbing up first to find the deepest part off the swim. A good angler will tell you everything and still give a lesson off the next peg, this lad is for sure a very very good angler. Thanks for the video.

[@raycharm8950]

good to see you showing and explaining your rigs Kieran , my go to fishing would be for carp and f1s especially after watching you fish as you did ,look forward to your live match at Weston

[@Andyfishing23]

It is a controversial rig and tbh, I get quite bored of it when pleasure fishing and like to fish different methods but like you said Kieran, when you’re in a match you’ve got have it in your armoury because it’s just unbeatable with the speed you can get them in at. I feel that you explain things in a simple and honest manner. Cheers 👍

[@georgeking-cp6gy]

Can’t beat a day on rod and line if you want a relaxing day

[@JeffOrtega33]

Class tutorial Kieran thanks for this educational overview. Converted to commercial fishing about 15 years ago getting to improve my skills with videos like this love learning to improve my F1 fishing

[@mattwright2964]

Don't agree with the way a lot of fishing has gone, same for game or coarse. Stockies and competitions have bred a culture of more and bigger at any cost to the heritage of fishing and the environment. Too many people saying 'anything goes if you enjoy it' which is clearly illogical and a recipe for disrespect to the sport and ecosystem. Sponsors, companies and bait manufacturers obviously keen to encourage this culture,with their vested interests, ending up as a race to the bottom for standards and derision for anyone who questions it, 'ah you're a purist blah blah'. Yep I'm a purist and proud. I'll stick to fishing for our native wild fish with deliberately self-limiting rules, codes of conduct, limited impact and respect for the environment. I will enjoy good days and blank days equally and take nature as it comes.

[@clivemilner]

Matt you are Wright. Ivan and Bob would complain, big time 😅

[@pipins3616]

Got it in one a blind kid with a stick could catch fish in these over stocked with Frankenstein bred fish. Get in a river where you never know what you will catch next. All these fancy rigs and baits catch you no more that the good old natural one’s

[@Stewbo1]

Well said . KZbin is full of jokers putting up videos of themselves catching tons of carp 2 inches away from the bank , then patting themselves on the back for how skilful they are . The next thing you know will be them scooping fish out with a landing net and claiming they've been 'bagging up' .I'll stick to rivers and canals and try to improve my fishing knowledge.

[@peterthornton8520]

I think there is enough room for both types of Angling and therefor we should respect both. You should not label anyone. You have Match Anglers and you have Natural Anglers. We all enjoy our sport and look after the environment.

[@peterthornton8520]

@@Stewbo1 With all respect to your and others views, I believe there is room for all 3 types of Course Anglers and they all should be respected. If you like Natural fishing Great, If you like fishing on Commercials and fish matches Great, (dont disrespect the many Pleasure Anglers who f frequent these Venue's and Finally dont forget the Carp Anglers who spend Hrs and sometimes Days trying to catch Big Carp. None of these are JOKERS. They are ALL Damned good Anglers.

[@karlrichards4125]

Wow - I don’t fish commercials and this was fascinating to watch. Commercial match fishing is a whole different beast to anything I do so these videos are really an eye opener. Many thanks.

[@peterthornton8520]

Well said

[@peterthornton8520]

Good video Kieran. here in the South East we dont have many F1 prolific waters but I have tried your method on venue's with a mixture of both F1's and Carp with reasonable results. I have got the Vespe measuring tape on all my top kits and find very usefull. Thanks for info and by the way my preferred method is Carp/F1s on the Pole. I did enjoy fishing Western Pools Jacks Lake. Cheers

[@xfiles5913]

Haven't dished in a while and this was first video j chose to get back into it. Not sure why I've only ever had the 1 match but just wanted to say enjoyed the video thank you very much 😊 🙏

[@melvynroe116]

Informative video, I enjoy catching silvers on canal but when match fishing prefer F1s shalla 😊

[@williamyates2794]

Great video again pal , your a pleasure to watch 👌👌👌

[@freddavis5648]

all methods are great when you get them right repeating the process after honing the skills practice makes perfect when catching fish

[@stevenowen9279]

Brilliant video keep em coming mate

[@davidturner4714]

Great video and watching a left handed fisherman like myself

[@phil4455]

Quite a few of the waters I fish don’t ban this explicitly, what is banned is slapping water with pole tip - which is what this approach encourages

[@sa1ntsfan]

Mega angler kerion is thanks for putting us right in St Helens tackle with hard pellet rigs mate and deffo bream fishing is my favourite thing on big natural venues but the odd match f1 fishing pulls me back from time to time

[@davidshipman19]

I enjoy my carp comp on the lakes , would be great to see you at Float fish farm nr Peterborough none of the comps . The Tuesday matches are great and fished on Wagtail n 2 islands both good lakes

[@kieranmarsdenangling8727]

Hi David, This may be something we can looking into for a future live match.

[@leegill9767]

F1s an carp an barble on the rod on the Trent or troting for grayling and trout love it

[@trudyandy]

great video and full of great tips and knowledge on this type of fishing, just one question would you feed less bait if you were using pellets or would be the same amount as casters and maggots?. Thanks for sharing your time and keep up the great videos

[@kieranmarsdenangling8727]

Hi thanks for you taking the time out to watch the video glad you enjoyed it. I would feed it exactly the same way with maggots and pellets when I am fishing shallow the only time I would change the way I feed would be if I was fishing on the bottom hope this helps.

[@colindickenson642]

Great video kieron explaining everything on how you approach this tactic the over shotted rig 👍 its something i need to do in my pole fishing im really looking forward to giving it a go soon im fishing Lindholm myself in September a 4 day festival unfortunately in our rules for the the festival they is no caster shalla fishing allowed so im going to have to use pellets instead or would maggots be better on there I don't know ive never fished Lindholm so wouldn't know what would be the better option what's your view on this & would you still feed the same amount of loose feed like you do when feeding caster?

[@ratatat9790]

Hi Keiron. When you said, the deeper the rig is, the more weight you put on - are you putting a heavier float on too, the deeper you go?

[@alanbrooks4718]

Kieran first time I have watched your videos.. Great to see a left hander. I have returned to match fishing after a long break and am having to relearn everything. Is there any chance you can do a box set up video. As far as I can see nobody has done one for a left hander.

[@kieranmarsdenangling8727]

Hi Alan, Glad you are enjoying the videos I will speak with the guys and see if we can do a box set up at some point.

[@GeorgeProut]

Great video. When fishing the overshotted rig how much line do you have between pole tip and float? In answer to your question I prefer silver fish fishing.

[@peterthornton8520]

About an Inch

[@peterthornton8520]

About an inch

[@andymcglone9296]

Hi Kieran what make and model is your seat box please as i am a lefty.

[@stevemccrory9130]

Matrix S36 Pro - just turn the drawers 180 degrees to get them opening on the left, to have your side tray on the right.

[@topcatsfishingtv8204]

Love the detail .

[@craighigson3625]

Where did you get the depth markers.

[@peterthornton8520]

Hi Kieran. Where did you get the measuring tape from which is on your top kits. Great Video by the way. Cheers

[@colinkochanski5102]

EBay he said mate, get 4 pieces of self adhesive measuring tape for £6 odd. Called BOYUAN.

[@ryanlewis2147]

30:36 ​@@colinkochanski5102 Can you send the link for the measuring tape can't find it

[@johnstrutt6998]

thanks for sharing this kieron great presentation,and does it also work with a small bulk above your hooklength ?

[@ifishmatrix]

Yes it will

[@tomcole7995]

Where are the tape measure stickers from? 😍😍

[@philnotley5138]

On the rare occasion I go to a commercial rammed with fish I pays my money and fish in the most effective way I can to catch as many as possible I use this in a heartbeat if it helped. If I go to an old estate lake filled with bream and tench I’d get my float rod out likewise out cones the feeder gear if conditions dictate it’s not one size fits all every time

[@davidhaworth6021]

If you use this rig at Weston Pools how do you get away with it as there is a rule ,no taping

[@kieranmarsdenangling8727]

I wouldn’t use this rig at Weston pools I would use fixed rigs and a jigga rig mate.

[@db-ol5dl]

Great video 👍

[@alanmarriott9216]

Can I ask your advice please or anyone. Whenever I fish mainly maggots I only ever get small fish. How do you get through the small fish to the bigger ones please? Thanks

[@Bishoplabosa]

Hi hello you did not show and explain the over shotted rig how deep and what float thank you 🤩 in the video we could not see any of the measurements on the measuring type just to let you know, thank you tape

[@asktheefathe]

Brilliant fishing

[@stegrundy4014]

Great vid/content kieran thx 👍

[@michaelhall9332]

I love going for slivers

[@cloud4344]

Whats the point of the float?(I know its probably to get around rules)

[@davidshipman19]

Hi Kieran, I’m new to arp competition fishing having trout competition fished for 45 yrs !! I fish Float fish farm in Cambs 90% of the time which predominantly have carp and silvers and am obviously aiming to catch carp would you use 4-6 mm pellets or castors ?

[@ifishmatrix]

Pellets if you want to avoid the silvers but caster are brilliant for catching everything that swims

[@Paul-ng3qb]

Great Video Guys, why do you prefer the float fixed rather than an inline jigga float ? Thanks

[@garypickersgill6639]

to venues that dont allow it a 28grn method feeder loaded with bait is proberly 32 grm and is a bolt rig , and just overshotting by a no 10 cube to go thro slowly ist allowed dont get it at all

[@seandowns4298]

No rig is cheating if it’s allowed.

[@stephenridd6834]

Shouldn't be allowed then!! And neither should poles be, under the pain of death!!

[@seandowns4298]

@@stephenridd6834you do realise dinosaurs went extinct

[@Stewbo1]

It's not the poles which are the problem , it's these hook-a-chuck commercials that have allowed crap anglers catch fish way above their skill quota .how anyone gets enjoyment pulling out carp after carp and genuinely think they have skill is beyond me . All matches should be on rivers .

[@Stewbo1]

Yes

[@gibbs677bg]

So what's the point In using a float when you are fishing like this? It serves no purpose surely?

[@christopherjackson5275]

BOTH MATE , JUST HAPPY TO FISH

[@alanjones1771]

I like I fish any way that will catch me a good net of fish so tight lines 🎣🎣🎣⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👍

[@donjones5793]

How much does this lot cost for somebody who’s about to start fishing I’ll be so interested to know

[@ifishmatrix]

For the tackle and set up he's using probably around £5000 but you can still catch just as many fish on tackle that costs a couple of hundred pounds

[@davidlockwood5228]

Where did you get your depth markers from and what name do they go by thanks

[@KevinJones-r9d]

I grew up fishing estate lakes and rivers no commercials

[@MattyRatcliffe]

Where can I get one of the matrix unhooking mats you use to display your catch at the end of the video?

[@ifishmatrix]

Unfortunately this was a one off mat we had made for filming, thanks for watching though.

[@garypickersgill6639]

i dont know why its controversial from a fish health point if view everyone is hooked in the top lip , problem is when you allow it it out fishes most other methods so it becomes a one trick pony if you dont do it to a good standard you will get beat up , its just another way of catching fish , nearly all top venues allow it , i think the top boys dont like it because it levels the game up for us normal anglers lol

[@bernardprice-z1o]

Is it only a f1/silvers rig or does it also work for carp

[@kieranmarsdenangling8727]

It’s not really a method for carp it can work sometimes for carp when you’re poking the over shotted rig into the cover but I would go more down the route of fishing fixed rigs for carp.

[@MarkSmith-tp6zc]

How much gear?! Unsponsored anglers couldn’t cover those options.

[@MagicManFan]

There's unsponsored anglers up and down the country, pleasure fishing and in club matches that have this gear. You don't necessarily need all of it though.

[@PhilipOrd-ch3jn]

Always silvers for me as it more skilful and technical way to fish as you have to use your brain more 😊😊😊😊😊

[@georgythornhill6996]

I thought lindholme lakes had a 8 inch lash rule in there open matches ,that would make that over shotted rig hard to fish ?

[@JSAV1867]

They’ve just changed all their rules so there’s no limit

[@georgythornhill6996]

It's a pity lindholme have changed the 8 inch lash limit,because in my opinion there is a lot more skill to fishing a fixed rigs and more satisfying when you catch on them .

[@davdclarke4670]

I don't get it fantastic pleasure but no casters in matches I thought ??

[@ifishmatrix]

The caster ban has been lifted in matches now

[@ahzippy]

F1s and Carp for me

[@keithhardy5931]

Would you use a overshotted rig if there was bright sunshine and clear water

[@kieranmarsdenangling8727]

Yes sometimes the over shotted rig in abit deeper water can be deadly on clear venues but I would also set up some long lash fixed rigs just to cover all bases.

[@keithhardy5931]

Thankyou

[@wharfeego]

@@kieranmarsdenangling8727 - Eh'up Kieran. Would you say that the no-float rig is even more deadly - and more controversial?

[@seandowns4298]

I was brought up fishing Leigh and Newton canal fishing the waggler for silvers back in the 70s and 80s but must admit I do prefer F1 and carp fishing on the commercials now. No bikers and dog crap everywhere. Only fish matches these days

[@feenster1]

The strange method banned to me was no water pistols...bizarre.

[@brentownsend1414]

Don't mind either but prefer silvers tbh

[@chrispashley2375]

Is it not an 8inch lash at lindholme 😮

[@kieranmarsdenangling8727]

Hi Chris, The rules at lindholme have now changed you can fish most methods and they have also allowed casters again in matches.

[@JordanKnight-yf3yb]

What matrix seat box is that?

[@stevemccrory9130]

Matrix S36 Pro Lime Edition

[@neilpegrum629]

Silvers all year and carp in the warmer months

[@jameseastham6232]

Imagine sitting there all day flicking your pole in the water. Fishing is fu**ked

[@stevenowen9279]

F1s and carp everytime mate

[@MattPAngling]

Another great video mate. What’s next??

[@ifishmatrix]

A live match

[@Mrfloriet]

Why still using a float? Micro feeder.

[@markwhibley9787]

I can’t understand why people complain about this rig but not the method ? It’s the same principle

[@bryanhutchison9982]

Which model of matrix rollers are the mate

[@ifishmatrix]

They're the Double Freeflow Mkii rollers. Here's a link - www.fishmatrix.co.uk/home/product/matrix-freeflow-mkii-double-pole-roller?c=roosts-rollers

[@bryanhutchison9982]

Cheers 👍🏼👍🏼

[@gonefishing338]

You asked what type of venues we prefer well I learnt on natural venues but do fish commercials now but still like to get my fix fishing canals and gravel pits for bream and tench it stops me getting bored with just catching Carp

[@stephenharris4398]

Carp and F 1

[@AndyHilton-of7bh]

Definitely silvers on a pleasure session

[@richardwatson5388]

I don’t fish commercials Silver fishing on a river every time!

[@wimvannieuwenborgh3655]

big carp

[@johnnelson7735]

Rivers every time

[@codyrustonangling]

Talk of woodlands view this rig today🤣🤣

[@davidfletcher8431]

My opinion needs banning, a Float is suppoesed to be above the water not under neath, hence the name Float

[@andrewmcpherson1225]

what are f1.s

[@ifishmatrix]

A type of carp hybrid

[@ihcfn]

Silvers.

[@jasonhutcherson6224]

Dude I couldn't understand 90% of what you said.

[@lesliebenson6719]

No not cheating adapt your rigs to suit the fish thats what fishing is all about

[@topfuelteddy]

Alright if you can afford 30 quids worth of casters .

[@Averageangler74]

Tinca's all day long.

[@GillmanStudio]

Drop shotting then .. kinda

[@ifishmatrix]

Almost

[@davidlynch1761]

For gods sake...its about catching fish this is match fishing, fishing to win...if you just want to go fishing do what you like but dont knock methods that actually catch fish. It's not life or death, its fishing for christ sake.

[@ebbnflotheenviromanc1127]

Matchmen cheat all the time so what's the difference in that n applying liquids to bait... Just saying.

[@kevt5251]

Fishing for a living…just isn’t fishing for me….yes we all like to catch fish….but all he talks about is winning winning..that’s not fishing for me…just my opinion

[@garyfinn8772]

Rabbits in a hat fishing get on a propper water like a lough erne

[@bryn3652]

This method should be banned on all waters

[@Jameslow2486]

F1s should be banned!

[@garyjones-jk1wl]

Not fishing its not good

[@kevinjohnson3782]

Pole fishing is shit anyway. So bloody boring!