The most dangerous way to criticize // A pushback against Harenko's hot-takes on Atomic Heart

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Brink of Art

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@awiseauthor3456
@awiseauthor3456 Жыл бұрын
It's so funny to me that Harenko calls this game propoganda, and then silences anyone who questions him in his comments.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I refrained from calling him a hypocrite, but yeah, pretty much my thoughts as well.
@Red-vm2vu
@Red-vm2vu Жыл бұрын
A Ukrainian dictator, freedom of speech should always be!!!
@Biohalomonster
@Biohalomonster Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt You cant even comment on his video. Writing a comment only shows up for you while answering other comments just gets you an error message. Never saw some BS like that.
@WaffelF
@WaffelF Жыл бұрын
I felt something was off when the comments are so few, only have people who agree with his take with ton of likes, but not a single one who argue him otherwise.
@hermitcard4494
@hermitcard4494 Жыл бұрын
Ironic. Sounds like... Propaganda.
@lagushkafrog5077
@lagushkafrog5077 Жыл бұрын
CoD MW: - Russians portrayed as a fcng nazis, - whole story was based on a real events, - game was sponsored directly by special services Harenko: I sleep. Atomic Heart: - In development long before the war started - Takes place in an alternative history - Ukraine is not even mentioned - Soviet ideology might be again revealed as bad. Harenko: *Real shit*
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
ты дегенерат, в COD не было такого, и да, то что ты, как многие, написал прямо сейчас, что описывают действие ВСРФ прямо сейчас в украине. В COD Барков и Армия показано жестокой, но в итоге оказывается что они боролись с террористами, а действия морпехов США дали возможность, которой террористы воспользовались, чтобы захватить Урзикистан и сделать страну как Хабом мирового терроризма. И да игра это игра, где многое выдуманно, и может быть использовано чтобы показать альтернативную историю. Но вспомни что Россия и СССР делала в странах Вьетнам, Египет, Афганистан, Корея, и бесконечные мятежи в Латинских странах и странах Африки. И думаешь что СССР не совершал ни одного преступления? Их много, очень много, особенно против собственного народа, советского народа, то есть бесчиленного колличество народов. Правительство БОЛЬШЕВИКОВ убило больше СОВЕТСКИХ чем какая либа другая НАЦИЯ и страна, что также с Китаем или КПК. И в конце Главный персонаж и другие понимают, что Барков просто выскочка из армии Росси, сделавший себя варлордом, а Москва игнорировала его существование и его мольбы о помощи, потому что он был выскочкой и занозой в заду. Но Выскочка которая подавляла очаг терроризма, а после его смерти терроризм распронился по всему миру. you are a degenerate, there was no such thing in COD, and yes, what you, like many others, wrote right now that describes the actions of the AFRF right now in Ukraine. In COD, Barkov and the Army are shown to be brutal, but in the end it turns out that they were fighting terrorists, and the actions of the US Marines provided an opportunity that the terrorists took advantage of to take over Urzikistan and make the country a hub of world terrorism. And yes, the game is a game where a lot of things are fictional and can be used to show an alternate history. But remember what Russia and the USSR did in the countries of Vietnam, Egypt, Afghanistan, Korea, and endless rebellions in Latin countries and African countries. And you think that the USSR did not commit a single crime? There are many, many of them, especially against their own people, the Soviet people, that is, an infinite number of peoples. The BOLSHEVIK government killed more SOVIETS than any other NATION and country, which is also with China or the CCP. And in the end, the main character and others understand that Barkov is just an upstart from the Russian army who made himself a warlord, and Moscow ignored his existence and his pleas for help, because he was an upstart and a thorn in the ass. But the Upstart who suppressed the hotbed of terrorism, and after his death, terrorism spread throughout the world. You are a communist pig, know your homeland and history, and not according to the nonsense of the COMMUNISTS who invented that NICHOLAS II wanted to attack Japan. 99.9% Communists are not trusted, ever. They will lie when they even say that the Sun is shining.
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
@@lagushkafrog5077 действительно тупица. Промытый коммунистической пропагандой, и да, полагаю ты рад за Путина что устроил войну?
@lagushkafrog5077
@lagushkafrog5077 Жыл бұрын
@@cqcarcТебя не учили вопросом на вопрос не отвечать? Я тебе сказал, пока на вопрос мой не ответишь можешь, не писать.
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
​@@lagushkafrog5077 ТЫ реально кусок кала, который рад смерти своих, а все потому что ленин и сталин и другие геи в ложбинке не виноваты. дегенерат, потому многие ненавидят россию и русских, именно из-за таких как ты, позор для народа.
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
@@lagushkafrog5077 лучше научись не быть коммунистическим хло и шизо путиноидом, я просто чекнул каналы которые смотришь, что сразу доказывает что ничтожество, которое смеятся над смертями, особенно своих.
@bryan-7997
@bryan-7997 Жыл бұрын
Harenko lost all credibility in his video when he removed negative/criticizing comments in that video and accusing them as “Russian bots” as well as filtering it. Oh and he made his Twitter private and only friends.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Indeed. As I see it, one could present the most constructive and logically sound argument ever uttered in human existence, but if they don‘t accept criticism no matter how flawed, for me, it immediately makes their opinion lass valid.
@silenceyouidiot
@silenceyouidiot Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt It's just Patriotism or Nationalism for Ukraine. But I have a feeling he doesn't share this view if another Country were to have the same situation, say Black Myth: Wukong which has a similar story to Atomic Heart. I see Taiwanese people who feel Nazi-adjacent in the way they spoke about China and the people there, but it's just their Nationalism. I have Chinese friends who tell me Japan stole part of their language and the West arrogantly use it to mock the Chinese... Also you can Chat GPT the legalese speech Harenko posted over Russia stealing info. Another Ukrainian gamedev that tried to support Harenko posted how Mundfish was seeking a patent writer who could understand American law, but he was pretending it was some shady weasel tactic to distract people from their Government collecting data. Sure, if you're in Ukraine or Russia, check if the game collects your location data, but they obiously can't do that here.
@BigSleepyOx
@BigSleepyOx Жыл бұрын
His video immediately goes down the drain by attacking Hogwarts, COD, and Joe Rogan. It's like, "Let me begin by alienating half the viewers before I actually get to my point".
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
@@BigSleepyOx EXACTLY! Dear god, I don't even consume/play any of these things and I felt so insulted...
@blackjacka.5097
@blackjacka.5097 Жыл бұрын
@@BigSleepyOx Joe Rogan is a total idiot
@dogwoodhillbilly
@dogwoodhillbilly Жыл бұрын
Herenko's video reminds me of people back in 2009 when Resident Evil 5 released called it racist because the game took place in Africa and had you killing African zombies.
@MRworldEtIkA
@MRworldEtIkA Жыл бұрын
exactly lmao
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
They did??! Damn, that went completely over my head XD
@dogwoodhillbilly
@dogwoodhillbilly Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt Maybe it was only here in the Unites States but yes. There are plenty of videos covering it. Look up the Arby N' The Chief episode called "Evil". It should fill you in the most period accurate way possible.
@EagleEye517
@EagleEye517 Жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't know that lol. Who would have thought cancel culture and these types of pu**ies existed back then
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
@@dogwoodhillbilly Oh god, I'm not sure if I even want to get into all of that 😅
@dogeminedoge
@dogeminedoge Жыл бұрын
I'm Ukrainian and I understand where his motivation/feelings are coming from. It's pretty sad for me to see people around me like him. Becoming xenophobic isn't gonna make world a better place. In reality this can only fuel more people into hating each other and making this war not political but ideological which is far worse
@RocketEightEight
@RocketEightEight Жыл бұрын
Покажите мне хоть одного почитателя коммунизма (не то что на западе, но в самой России) из целевой аудитории игры. "Утопическая мечта - не то, чем кажется". Странная пропаганда. Такая же клюква со звездами на весь еблет, как и в Метро от украинских разработчиков. Пис
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Very well spoken. It really is good to see a lot of other Ukrainians taking a stance just like you here. War is brutal, especially this one. But if we let our emotions cloud our judgement, we could lose far more than is already at stake. America and it's handling with communism during the cold war, is another great example for what long lasting effects could remain in a society after a war of ideology, hindering progress and sparking more conflict. Thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. And it seems I'm not the only one by far. ^^
@aenodarr7936
@aenodarr7936 Жыл бұрын
​@@RocketEightEight Сеттинг != пропаганда, тем более, тут показывается, что коммунизм не привёл к хорошему в этой ситуации, хоть и косвенно
@maximACMN
@maximACMN Жыл бұрын
Удачи тебе, и спасибо за адекватность
@harald_smth
@harald_smth Жыл бұрын
Удачи друже, спасибо что немного помог мне почувствовать себя лучше своим комментарием!
@froumajesty5697
@froumajesty5697 Жыл бұрын
Harenko logic: One of the developers of Atomic Heart previously worked in the restaurant as a chef. It means that money from game purchases could be directly transferred to the restaurant and its cuisine.
@voleksandr7065
@voleksandr7065 Жыл бұрын
You definitely don't know how oligarchy works. And if only you would know who Prigozhin is, you wouldn't make chef references regarding russian politics.
@fatcoommies
@fatcoommies Жыл бұрын
@@voleksandr7065 even if you "know how oligarchy works", it is still nothing but a conspiracy theory without concrete evidence.
@yagamifire7861
@yagamifire7861 Жыл бұрын
I've heard Putin eats food. What did the restaurant serve? FOOD. Coincidence? UNLIKELY.
@mediocri5y
@mediocri5y Жыл бұрын
@@yagamifire7861 same give as that shit from last year where people where hating on guys and comparing it to the fact that Hitler was also a man
@bfFAN221
@bfFAN221 Жыл бұрын
@@voleksandr7065 You definitely don't know how paranoia works. And if only you would know who Harenko is, you wouldn't make schizoid references regarding ukranian politics. Two can play this game, bruv. Take your meds...
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Жыл бұрын
1,5 million views, 120 comments, and they're all agreeing with the creator... seems good to me!
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
The whole thing Harenko‘s got going with his comments is really fishy. I‘ve not even had 1% of his views, but already more comments, some even disagreeing with me, but everyone stating logically founded concerns instead of just one liners. Also, y‘know: I commented twice under his video, bringing the total count of comments to 124 when I last looked. Now my comments (which also linked to my response) are gone, the total number now being brought down to 120. Truly, nothing wrong about that under a video inciting a political discussion!
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt he says it's because of bots, but I think even the people agreeing with him know that's not the case
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Let's just say, after deleting my comments (wich I did phrase provocative, but not rude I believe) I am having trouble that bots are the main thing troibeling him. Especially considering his like-dislike ratio.
@keen8549
@keen8549 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree with him
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt it's clear that he's deleting comments disagreeing with him. His fragile ego can't take that so he deletes any comment he doesn't like, leaving a couple of weirdos who agree with his points. It's all very, fascist if you ask me.
@udyfrost6380
@udyfrost6380 Жыл бұрын
The whole point about the game being a scam is a lie. I used a wayback machine to check his allegations and i found out there were false. Those links didn't exist in the description until years after. So, the marketing part is the weakest if you think of it, because he did no research and didn't even consider the possibility of the links being placed after some time.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Oh damn, really?! Well, thank you for checking, I didn't even consider doing that! Very interesting indeed, this does put the game in a different light for sure.
@That_guy_mike.
@That_guy_mike. Жыл бұрын
He also lied about Gaijen and didn’t tell the whole story about the terms of service. Gaijen didn’t move to Hungary in 2022, they moved in 2015 and those terms of service were addressed by the developer in an interview where they stated that those were old TOS that had been deleted (hence the 404 page Horenko briefly mentions) once the company distanced itself from Russian in 2022. Horenko needs to learn that if something truly is as bad as you say, you don’t need to lie about it to make your point
@friendlyneighborhoodinquis1682
@friendlyneighborhoodinquis1682 Жыл бұрын
well that is interesting indeed...so literally the only maybe-kinda-sortof-valid point he made was bullshit? Imagine my shock
@That_guy_mike.
@That_guy_mike. Жыл бұрын
@@friendlyneighborhoodinquis1682 also doesn’t help that even within his incorrect assertion he forgot to mention that those were Russian only TOS that wouldn’t have applied to anyone outside of Russia. If they tried to apply that TOS elsewhere it would’ve ran afoul of cybersecurity and consumer protection laws in both the EU and US and been barred from distribution
@NumbDiggers1998
@NumbDiggers1998 Жыл бұрын
So Ukrainian made up story so people would believe him??? Wow that never happened before!
@pilotmanpaul
@pilotmanpaul Жыл бұрын
22:11 Are we also gonna ignore the fact that P3. The games protagonist is literally built like a Greek God with an IMMACULATE jawline and a six foot tall masculine man. Where's the Male Sexualization complain here? It has to go both ways, as not all men look like that and blessed with such great genes.
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 Жыл бұрын
Oh silly, only women can be sexualized. Men never get sexualized/treated like sex symbols for their bodies. Jokes aside it's disgusting how women will fawn over a handsome man and just ask him to do inappropriate things and nobody bats an eye but if you so much as look in the direction of a woman you'll get called a creep. Hate these double standards so much.
@a.k8185
@a.k8185 Жыл бұрын
@@danialyousaf6456 Double standards are obviously bullshit, yeah.
@drfreakoman9976
@drfreakoman9976 Жыл бұрын
​@@danialyousaf6456 people actually do bat an eye. But not in the same quantities as when men do it, and it's all just calling them disgusting or whores. But when men do it, they want us to die.
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 Жыл бұрын
@@a.k8185 yeah
@principleshipcoleoid8095
@principleshipcoleoid8095 Жыл бұрын
With enough double standarts men will just go their own way...
@irvanray1898
@irvanray1898 Жыл бұрын
at the end of the day, Harenko video just makes Atomic Heart even more popular.
@Just_marii
@Just_marii Жыл бұрын
Yeah people who weren't even gonna play the game are now getting it lol because of his stupidity.
@whimsybomb7929
@whimsybomb7929 Жыл бұрын
Looks like Hogwarts Legacy has a new challenger
@noepantzare5046
@noepantzare5046 Жыл бұрын
he convinced me to play it.
@finnmccool5944
@finnmccool5944 Жыл бұрын
And people hate being told to not buy something so he just helped the game
@mediocri5y
@mediocri5y Жыл бұрын
@@whimsybomb7929 a worthy oponent
@annasawicka4096
@annasawicka4096 Жыл бұрын
Also, as a woman, I don't think there's anything wrong with making female characters look appealing. And since characters are robots, it even makes sense to design them this way - people may want to create/have robots based on ideals of female body. There are also women with that type of body irl, as it's not too unrealistic
@MonsterJuiced
@MonsterJuiced Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I get the angle being annoyed by objectification, it happens to men too in the same way. However, being scared of attractive people is ridiculous. I love attractive people, they're wonderful to see, and especially if their personalities are just as attractive. Real charm is one of life's greatest gifts. This game shows a strong range of attraction in their designs of people and humanoid robots and they're not all attractive to look at. I get quite annoyed when I see the latest AAA games just absolutely making sure all the female characters are not very pretty, deformed and bulbous eyed n stuff. Yet the men are either soy faces from sanfransisco or absolute roid machines. I'm glad hogwarts legacy has some good looking characters. It is fantasy afterall
@principleshipcoleoid8095
@principleshipcoleoid8095 Жыл бұрын
Honestly human sexuality is subjectification. Objectification is a very specific psychological problem. Most humans have consent as required from the other party before it can be enjoyable.
@stegosandrosos1291
@stegosandrosos1291 Жыл бұрын
​@@MonsterJuicedlol
@VeSpEr7iNe
@VeSpEr7iNe Жыл бұрын
yeah the robots are alright, I think they even look cool and badass. If it is to fulfil fantasies, then I'm not against making good looking characters in video games, both women and men in equality.
@MALICEM12
@MALICEM12 Жыл бұрын
For me it's not that the robots are hot it's just the odd fetish stuff about them that seems so weird and out of place. Like the lead dev was jerking it during some of those scenes. It also promotes this annoying femdom "step on me mommy" behavior that has exploded in the last 20 years
@M5RKI5N
@M5RKI5N Жыл бұрын
I have no idea why people were mad at the slogan "Glory to Soviet engineers", BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SING PRAISES TO SOVIET UNION OR COMMUNISM, IT'S LITERALLY SAYING GLORY TO ENGINEERS WHO DESIGNED THE TECHNOLOGY. And all this bs with even trying to compare Nazi Germany (in IRL and Wolfenstein) and USSR is baffling, considering it's two different economics, ideologies and political parties. Great video man, thanks for making it.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
And thank you for commenting! I think your point is extremely fair, regarding the slogans as well as the whole fiasco with comparing it with Wolfenstein, especially with the similar but VERY DIFFERENT TONE of the two games in and of itself. I mean, it is still kinda weird, but nowhere even close as bad, as Harenko makes it seem.
@teecil
@teecil Жыл бұрын
@M5RKI5N In fact, I missed the point when the Soviet symbolism was equalized with the swastika.
@M5RKI5N
@M5RKI5N Жыл бұрын
@@teecil My comment wasn't about comparing the symbols of two of these counties, but about comparing countries themselves. Harenko in his video showed a tweet of the guy saying that party organised by Mundfish is comparable to the situation if Wolfenstein developers made party in Nazi Germany fashion (which they didn't), and I found this Tweet baffling because Nazi Germany and USSR are two completely different countries, regimes and economics.
@teecil
@teecil Жыл бұрын
@@M5RKI5N Yes, I get it, and you're right. That's why I say that, like you, I don't understand this comparison. The symbols of the countries are associated with the countries themselves. That is why I also expressed my puzzlement with my comment.
@sveezyx
@sveezyx Жыл бұрын
yeah the point is, that this game is released at 20th February this year, in timeline where war is taking place. . . if there was no war right now, noone would even care. . .
@snows2211
@snows2211 Жыл бұрын
Remember when games were just for fun? Yeah, I miss those times.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too... people really need to calm down.
@hdhdnfbxbdbd
@hdhdnfbxbdbd Жыл бұрын
Mv2019
@dergunter1237
@dergunter1237 Жыл бұрын
people these days have their entire lifes existence determined by their political religion in which they engage with the most fanaticism and zealotry
@ivanbernatek5585
@ivanbernatek5585 Жыл бұрын
Sadly games are mainstream now and real life politics and issues will be reflected in them anyway. And always were, even in nineties.
@SpaceA.
@SpaceA. Жыл бұрын
- *"Remember when games were just for fun?"* Rush'n Attack is a run and gun video game developed and released by Konami in North American arcades in 1985, and converted to the console Nintendo NES. Rush'n Attack, originally released in Japan and Europe as Green Beret, is an action/platform arcade game released by Konami in 1985. Rush'n Attack is a play on words A phrase that is pronounced as "Russian Attack". A soldier infiltrates military bases and kills the soldiers serving on these military bases, and when the level is completed, players see a red flag set on the observation towers.
@nickhoc8853
@nickhoc8853 Жыл бұрын
Love the fact that Atomic Heart is under fire prior to anyone actually seeing the final product. It really looks like a Soviet Bioshock, and Bioshock wasn't exactly a great look at the Libertarians.
@Jolis_Parsec
@Jolis_Parsec Жыл бұрын
Don’tcha mean Lulbertarians given how laughably pathetic that lot are these days? 😜
@johnduquette7023
@johnduquette7023 Жыл бұрын
Objectivists.
@pretol7920
@pretol7920 Жыл бұрын
I keep waiting for "good" games from North Korea, and maybe other genocidal cultures... I'm just so "open-minded" that I'll sell out to whoever makes a good game. There's no moral compass required for the good capitalism..
@drmaulana2600
@drmaulana2600 Жыл бұрын
@@pretol7920 your kind are pathetic, Tencent, a company literally funded/run by CCP official, have shares in lots of major gaming developers, and i dont see your kind criticizing that.
@pretol7920
@pretol7920 Жыл бұрын
@@drmaulana2600 That's the worst case of whataboutism. But if it makes you feel better... TENCENT IS A PIECE OF SHIT chinese CCCP garbage that is prolonging the suffering of many people on this planet by collecting money from the west to brainwash their own people. That was easy :)
@ftvdeadmark
@ftvdeadmark Жыл бұрын
I was also someone who found out about this game just recent and I thought the game looked cool. Then I noticed Harenko's video and I mostly felt similar to how you described your feelings on the video. He shouldn't judge a game of being propaganda without the full game even being released yet. Not to mention clearly showing inspiration from games like Fallout, Bioshock, etc.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Great summary. His expressions come really close to trying to spark a war of ideology and with the examples of this already seeming to be set in motion, we need to be aware of how to avoid this thinking. Thanks for your comment.
@iseeyou6422
@iseeyou6422 Жыл бұрын
I got mad at fallout part because of him calling it "political" like the US does bad shit to it's own people, the Chinese and Canadians hell most of the games doesn't even take place in an country but an former country and has you making an fictional nation or helping a fictional nation and in New Vegas no one is the "good guys" and something bad will always happen if it's taxes, being enslaved, the same as always no peace or justice in the Mojave and only the strip booming like always or anarchy rules the streets of New Vegas
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
His video is the propaganda. He knowingly lied about quite a lot. And then he knowingly lies about the nature of the comments he filters out. Therefore he's intentionally deceiving people.
@teecil
@teecil Жыл бұрын
After watching Harenko's video I wanted to write a long comment below with my opinion, but I noticed that I didn't find a single comment that had the slightest doubt about Harenko's position. Judging by the number of dislikes, I came to the conclusion that all such comments are deleted under the pretext that "they are made from a new unreliable account," as Kharenko wrote in the comments, but that's just my guess. However, thank you for your video. It really made me feel better, and I'm glad you look at the situation with an open mind and really understand what you're talking about. You promote a positive message. I want to point out that in my opinion equate the USSR and Nazi Germany is incorrect and wrong. I don't think it's necessary to explain why, although I know that this is normal in Ukraine. Generally i wasn't going to play Atomic Heart, It was interesting for me to only watch the game from the side, but just a couple of days ago, I came across Harenko's video. The absurd and ridiculous arguments of a man who farfetchedly implicates politics where there is no need for it, just to push his thought and vile message through. What is my point? I decided to buy this game, will buy it and will play it. To spite someone? I don't know. But I wanted to play it.
@Terminated_Account
@Terminated_Account Жыл бұрын
You didn't found anyone doubting him bc he confirmed he was deleting everything but good comments that where in his favor lmfao
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I wanted to do something similar to what you described, but was so overwhelmed and straight up outraged by his opinions, that I decided to make this video instead and I am really glad that you feel the same way about it. @teecil @Terminated_Account In his defence, he hasn't deleted my comments under his video (so far), so my guess would be that most of the people disagreeing with him, were just as angry/overwhelmed as we were and just stuck to disliking and moving on, but on the other hand, he did speak of deleting "spam-comments" so I guess we will never know for sure. Objectively speaking, I'd still recommend to -if you're really going to buy it- just hold off on your purchase for like 10 days after release, so we can have a look at some reviews regarding the actual technical state of the game. The gaming industry as a whole has not been too great with keeping their promises lately, as I just threw away my money with pre-ordering Warhammer Total War 3 myself... But I'm sure you already know all that. I any case, thanks for your elaborate comment and the detailed depiction of your thoughts around this. I'm really glad to see, that I'm not the only one being outraged by Harenko's points and I am glad for everyone taking a stance with me so eloquently. Hopefully, we can all have our inner peace again soo. ^^'
@teecil
@teecil Жыл бұрын
​@@BrinkofArtI don't have endless money, and I also still have my head on my shoulders, so I never throwing money away by buying a pre-order. The only time I bought a game on release day was Bannerlord, I waited too long for that game to wait for more. But thanks for the heads up anyway. And thank you again for sharing your opinion in order to express an alternative position. You gave all the dissatisfied a place where they can speak out and share their opinions. It's worth a lot.
@andrewwolles1429
@andrewwolles1429 Жыл бұрын
My comment under Harenko's video was shadowbanned. I didn't even know that is an option on KZbin.
@MedievalAngryDude
@MedievalAngryDude Жыл бұрын
What is the difference between the USSR and the Third Reich, except that the USSR was able to survive and communism was not subjected to such an anathema as Nazism?
@thegamingbayskeletor1637
@thegamingbayskeletor1637 Жыл бұрын
Harenko deadass published a racist video and thought we wouldn't notice
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
He really did... and even worse, he thought we'd all agree with him! o.0
@SniperFallen06
@SniperFallen06 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt sadly theres people that do agree with his absurd hot takes
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
@@SniperFallen06 Yes, sadly but not suprising. I hope that a lot of those people also find this video: Then it'll get really interesting. ^^
@Just_marii
@Just_marii Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately some people will blindly follow him because "Russia bad".
@KarmineSlash
@KarmineSlash Жыл бұрын
@pink fat rabbit Any law-abiding, tax-paying russian is an accessory to war, so yes, there are no good russians, unless they actively oppose russia's war effort.
@Mala_Praxis
@Mala_Praxis Жыл бұрын
15:46 I'm not a language professional either, but with a screenshot from my mobile phone translator I was able to get a pretty decent translation. It makes it clear that the information withheld will be for military recruitment. Being from Argentina and not being linked to that country at all, I doubt that they can force me to enlist... Besides, there is not a single company that does not steal user information.
@hatefulgaming1800
@hatefulgaming1800 Жыл бұрын
Well guess we're all gonna be forced to join the Russian military.
@SparK.h276
@SparK.h276 Жыл бұрын
@@hatefulgaming1800 ⚠️Russians will force their way into your home to recruit you⚠️ Time remaining until arrival: 23 hours, 55 minutes and 39 seconds.
@Nebar821
@Nebar821 Жыл бұрын
We live in time when people share all their lives in social networks. And somebody care about text of the licence. Comrade major already know all about you.
@HalfgildWynac
@HalfgildWynac Жыл бұрын
To give you some context: in the 2000s the Russian government started requiring companies and website owners to show a notification to users where they must explicitly give their consent to storing and processing their personal data. Their logic was, I think, whenever you create an account, surely you provide SOME data to the owners, especially if it is an online store, and technically the law did not regulate what they can do to that data-and the users may not even feel that they share any sensitive information. Since then, Russian-speking users have grown pretty accustomed to seeing that pop-up asking them to confirm they agree that their personal data will be stored and processed. hm.. where is the first part of my translation?😐
@acceptablecasualty5319
@acceptablecasualty5319 Жыл бұрын
Part of that might be the general disclaimer that Data may be used in Criminal Proceedings if the Government demands it.
@joeo2533
@joeo2533 Жыл бұрын
Also Harenko: If you are the kind of person who will play Hogwarts Legacy despite the controversy behind it, don't watch this video.
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats your standard internet-lefty take on Hogwarts. Its like this puritanist bullies have no private life of their own, only internet activism smh
@ORBrunner
@ORBrunner Жыл бұрын
Honestly i don't have problems with him hating us - he has some reasons of course and very severe ones BUT the biggest issue i have with his video is how he manipulates information and speads basically hate It is a dangerous game of dehumanising the particular population or nation It never ends well
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
He lies about the things he says. So I do have a problem with it. If he has to lie then he feels the need to fabricate cause to hate, and to recruit others into his thinking via manipulation.
@schmietwechdeschiet4340
@schmietwechdeschiet4340 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Not ONLY germany should never forget what happened in ww2! And learn from those mistakes.
@d1psy85
@d1psy85 Жыл бұрын
The thing I really wonder about is how Harenko feels about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2's marketing, paywalling in-game content(such as jokes/guitar tracks) behind preorders, the cancelled NFT thing, multiplayer? Like, this is way shadier than things Atomic Heart pulled off.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I am getting a lot of comments talking about this; Thanks for pointing it out again, I'm amazed by how much I learn with the comments from you guys. ^^
@blackjacka.5097
@blackjacka.5097 Жыл бұрын
It's what happens when you don't have oligarch investors backing you up.
@d1psy85
@d1psy85 Жыл бұрын
@@blackjacka.5097 I imagine GSC as a company could get actual sponsors instead of selling NFTs. Don't get me wrong, I've been a stalker fan since SoC's release, played tons of mods, but even I can't deny that GSC's actions have been questionsble, to say the least.
@dergunter1237
@dergunter1237 Жыл бұрын
@@blackjacka.5097 there are Ukraine developers who produce good games and dont need to pull those shady tactics tho
@SniperFallen06
@SniperFallen06 Жыл бұрын
@@dergunter1237 if they Dont need it then why are they doing the shady táctics then?
@cholze9146
@cholze9146 Жыл бұрын
I really have a bit agreeable on Harenko, just before he said something like, “you purchased this game it’s like you gives money to Russian government so if you pre-ordered it, simply canceling it and give money to the Ukrainian” that shit made me laugh my ass off, Harenko is like a Woke Joke that straight out of Hogwart Legacy haters, but he just had me in the first half ngl😂😂😂😂
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 Жыл бұрын
What's ironic is that his video and outlandish claims could better be characterized as propaganda than his hit peice that he claims to be propaganda...
@TheRifild
@TheRifild Жыл бұрын
@@TerminalM193 don't forget to buy stalker 2!
@Wagyuary
@Wagyuary Жыл бұрын
“Don’t buy this game. It is paying for the Russian war effort.” Also “Send the refund money to support Ukrainian war efforts.”
@Bronyboiiiii
@Bronyboiiiii Жыл бұрын
His whole take is just that everything russian related is bad now and he pulls this up to a very concerning level. He most likely is just a random dude who got personally insulted by someone xD.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
He definitely tries his best in going extreme lenghs to tell us about our "immorality" in just taking the game for what it is. I think he really just got swept away in his emotions regarding Putin and now applies his anger to everything regarding Russia, seeing shadows and dark figures everywhere.
@kosstarYT
@kosstarYT Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt bruh writing putin with a capital letter are you pro-russian bruh?!
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
@@kosstarYT Nah, I have to write his name with a capital P to show I'm pro-capitalism. XD
@blackjacka.5097
@blackjacka.5097 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt Because the average russian is so educated and loving right?
@dergunter1237
@dergunter1237 Жыл бұрын
he is a fanatic just like other fanatics of other denominations, it doesnt require god to be a fanatic if you can make your version of government or ideology into god to than justify your animalistic degenerate nature and act on your hate filled schizophrenic thinking
@rylanbalkham-smith8730
@rylanbalkham-smith8730 Жыл бұрын
A very well-spoken video. it's a touchy subject to even comment on, let alone respond to but what a fantastic response not only to a video game but current world views as a whole. It speaks to the power of video games and how important they are in dealing with real-world issues and how we view them as such. the way he took the message wasn't wrong to him but he took it as almost gospel instead of taking into account what the devs wanted to say from the artist's perspective.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the appreciation; I was really worried, that people would completely disagree with me or that my wording was wrong in some places, but I'm glad about all the support. I can somewhat understand how Harenko got to his conclusions and accusations, but I think that all his pain is really clouding his judgement here. His worst move was indeed to make this video and -as you said- present his feelings abot the game as gospel. Again, I'm really glad to have people like you agreeing with me here.
@Froggmeningreen
@Froggmeningreen Жыл бұрын
A correction: at 8:50 you say that Marina Ovsyannikova (the russian TV host who protested the war in Ukrraine live) disapeared, yet she did not. She was fined and then left the country to work for a german outlet (Die Welt), and she now apparently resides in France.
@schmietwechdeschiet4340
@schmietwechdeschiet4340 Жыл бұрын
Die Welt? oh no, thats not a good place to be! Im glad she is safe, but sad she works for that propaganda paper now.
@Minster23
@Minster23 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to realize that there are people in the world who think soberly. Thank you for the video and good luck in the development of the channel :)
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I'm actually really glad how well-spoken my script turned out here, because believe me, I was drunk with rage while writing it.^^' But now, having my inner peace again, I'm glad to tend to my more fun projects again; Thanks for the kind words :D
@samuelbucher5189
@samuelbucher5189 Жыл бұрын
About the Atomic Heart VK event: I get why an outsider would think of this as weird, but it's not really fair (albeit quite funny) to compare it to Wolfenstein devs making a Nazi Germany themed party. Nazi Germany lasted for like a decade, but the USSR was a thing for 68 years. Everyone in Russia above the age of 32 was born in the USSR (or at least when it existed), and everyone above the age of 40 feels at least some sort of nostalgia for those times. Those times left an inerasable mark on every aspect of the nation's culture. Many buildings still bear Soviet insignia and slogans, almost every city has a street named after Lenin, as well as the man's statue, and don't even get me started on old cartoons running in the morning. I guarantee that almost none of that event's attendees felt weird about the theming. The German's view of Nazi Germany and the Russian's view of the USSR couldn't be more different.
@MALICEM12
@MALICEM12 Жыл бұрын
People may feel nostalgic about it, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing or should be romanticized or promoted. Which is all too often the case with nostalgia. So while yes there is just a longer period of time the USSR was around, we also should be careful not to be too indifferent or apathetic to how people depict it. Looking back at such a horrible regime with rose tinted glasses is very dangerous and a serious charge for those who don't want such a thing to return.
@samuelbucher5189
@samuelbucher5189 Жыл бұрын
@@MALICEM12 I'm playing Atomic Heart right now. USSR and communism are not being show in the good light at all.
@SophiteSomewhere
@SophiteSomewhere Жыл бұрын
Also.. you know.. Propaganda of the soviet way is kinda implemented in the setting and style, since it was full of it. You can't do something soviet-themed and not throw some one-liners praising the system here and there. Be that some signs or posters or some actor that plays a role of the soviet politic figure that spreads the ideology (which the event, afaik, had too. There were some actors playing the characters from the game) I actually wonder why the hell someone thought that taking such event at face value is a good idea. That's the thematic event, making it as close to the theme as possible is THE WHOLE POINT Grr.. I fucking hate internet sometimes
@lesterama6110
@lesterama6110 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelbucher5189 Correct! In fact, the ending is practically anticomunist
@badunius_code
@badunius_code Жыл бұрын
I would add that the people in their forties has nostalgic feelings about the best years of USSR. Not Holodomor, not industrialization, not collectivisation, not war, not post war recovery--they haven't experienced any of it. The Brezhnev era, although called "Stagnation" was mostly the age of (relative) peace and (relative) opulence. It's not until 80s when the decline started to show itself. So what they've witnessed is that everything was fine and dandy and then it all went downhill.
@jamesflowers8054
@jamesflowers8054 Жыл бұрын
I dont feel like the press conference thing is weird at all. Setting up a banquet hall to look like a soviet dinner party is for drumming up PR. To get journalists to take pictures of the décor and get excited for the big gameplay reveal. Like he said in his original video, they have no track record. They're in the middle of Russia at the height of anti-russian sentiment of our generation. Even if they wanted to get some celebrities in for the press conference (like every other game made for the AAA market), not a single one would attend and attach their name to anything Russian at this point. I think the party looked rad and possibly gave those who attended a feeling of what it might have been like to be a Soviet official profiting of the people. Games have become more and more immersive as time has progressed, and I see the dinner party as an extension of the immersion.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Very well said. I thought pretty much the same when hearing about the press conference, but just left it out because I thought people could misunderstand me and because -quite frankly- I don't think it's that big of a deal in the first place. But the banquett as a whole fits very well into the AH-verse and juxtaposing it with Wolfenstein is just really unfair.
@bennitooo6913
@bennitooo6913 Жыл бұрын
It'd be like having a metal concert for doom or something is how I see it. It could have gorey decorations, fun demon stuff, and sci fi theme. It'd be grotesque, and spooky to an outsider but for the context it'd be cool.. heck imagine fallout doing that, that'd be pretty cool. For promotional banquet have the game trailer, and in game animated ads be displayed on projector to a big screen. Custom nuka cola bottles, and some in game mixed alcoholic drinks. Have everything setup like a classic diner theme.
@TargetiveChicken
@TargetiveChicken Жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about this. I’m glad to know others saw this condescending and crazy video and was able to read between the lines. One thing I wish you addressed is how Harenko is deleting opposing comments and claiming it is bots. His comments are full of people who agreed with his video and any contrasting opinions just get deleted.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
No worries, I was in fact SO OUTRAGED by his video, that it really is just as good for me to get my inner peace back, than it is for you guys. ^^ I see this comment coming from a lot of people and I wish I did have a closer look into that, but I released my video 2 days after he released his, which gave him the benefit of the doubt in this regard. But yeah, my comments got deleted as well, so he surely does this.
@alexkozliayev9902
@alexkozliayev9902 Жыл бұрын
Your separation of people and state of russia is a breath of fresh air. A lot of so called "measures" against russia only hurt ordinary people and at worst make them more dependable on the state and more hateful to the western countries. Like, how taking away Kerbal Space Program from russian Epic Games' accounts, or blocking paypal for russian freelance artists suppose to defeat putin?
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you put it this way. Another way to look at it, is that it is actually quite scary how a handful of companies and people can impact the day-to-day life of a whole nation, if what they're doing is being concieved are politically acceptable. A lot of these things don't really worry Putin and I think they are more directed to inciting the populace to revolt against him; But it can have an entirely different effect for sure...
@alexkozliayev9902
@alexkozliayev9902 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt "they are more directed to inciting the populace to revolt against him" yeah, but only outrage they cause is against them. Besides, there is idea that if people became poor they rise up like in russian communist revolution. But, in that revolution people were not that poor, they had support from the west, they were armed, because guns where not that regulated at that time. Nowadays your bank account controlled by government, your ability to purchase arms controlled by government, etc. And people tried peaceful meetings in russia before. They where pretty big too. In the end many people who participated in them was either arrested or left the country.
@aenodarr7936
@aenodarr7936 Жыл бұрын
@@alexkozliayev9902 А то, что это были несогласованные митинги (В Канаде например их тоже нужно регистрировать, перед тем как выйти на митинг, иначе тебя может буквально раздавить конная милиция) ты удобно упомянуть забыл? И "некоторые были вынуждены покинуть страну" - кто? Те, кто коктейлем молотова кидались в полицейских? Да, история с бумажным стаканчиком конечно позор для инфополя России, потому что явно срок за "проступок" больше похож на срок за реальное преступление, но это единичный случай.
@alexkozliayev9902
@alexkozliayev9902 Жыл бұрын
@@aenodarr7936 чел, закон о согласовании митингов вышел ПОСЛЕ болотной, как реакция на нее, это раз. Во вторых, канада это тоже не самая свободная страна) "кто? Те, кто коктейлем молотова кидались в полицейских?" Навальный такой "ага, ага, пошел я нахуй"))
@buer2215
@buer2215 Жыл бұрын
@@aenodarr7936 разница в том, что в Канаде эти самые митинги разрешают проводить. Вспомнишь когда такое было в России?
@RealRoboKnight
@RealRoboKnight Жыл бұрын
Once he mentioned Hogwarts Legacy, I'm just like... "ohhhh... that explains it."
@mc_sim
@mc_sim Жыл бұрын
he uses the same strategy as Ukrainian president or alphabet people - he wants you to feel guilty and thus follow his will.
@RealRoboKnight
@RealRoboKnight Жыл бұрын
@@mc_sim eh, I just like playing video games lol
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 Жыл бұрын
Same. I backed out after a few minutes cuz I knew his arguments were gonna be bogus.
@TarnkappenToast
@TarnkappenToast Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I understand him there. It's totally fine for me to decide not to buy Hogwarts Legacy. Just because of JK, an awful human being. But I also think that the entire topic is a totally different story and not comparable. His Atomic Heart video confused me over and over again, but I can get behind stances against Hogwarts Legacy. It is just something totally different and not on the same level.
@mc_sim
@mc_sim Жыл бұрын
@@TarnkappenToast JK is very good person in fact. Those who oppose her are morons.
@DerNomade1871
@DerNomade1871 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of political discours, I got to say this as a fellow German and through my experience 1.) I completely agree with you in this video 100% 2.) And this is my responce for this video Since from what ive seen Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been spewing cringe anti-German rhetoric to guilt trip Germany into sending aid to there, imma go a head and buy the game because it looks interesting 3) 9:42 ooooo you obviously haven't experienced America they absolutely love doing that because of the past, cannot tell you how many times that I've visited family friends or extended relatives and have gotten harassed, and or threatened by Americans for simply being German even though my great grandparents spoke out agaisnt the nsdap government, doesn't matter to them
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Oooh, yeah, I definitely get what you mean. My English teacher once told a story of how he was just riding the bus in America, taking pictures (back in the day when people needed camera's for that) and how he got randomly harassed by strangers for being German. I'm quite lucky that most of the people I've met, didn't meet me with the same kind of nationalism, but there are lots of others who have... Thanks for your comment and best of fun with the game. Maybe don't pre-order it for the obvious reasons, but I'm sure you already know all of that. ^^'
@DerNomade1871
@DerNomade1871 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt of definitely, only thing I really pre ordered is the new dead space remake haha But I don't think it's a case of "nationalism" since my opinion there's nothing wrong with loving your country, it's the usual case of Americans living up to that back water status really :/
@gabemissouri
@gabemissouri Жыл бұрын
As a proud American with austrain ancestry I would like to apologize for their bigotry. My great grandfather fought on the American side during ww1.
@DerNomade1871
@DerNomade1871 Жыл бұрын
@@gabemissouri heh well honestly gotta say blood brothers ((austrian and German)) he fought for the wrong side. Buuut I love the helghast 1 profile picture, I haven't played killzone in a super long ass time since I switched to Xbox
@gabemissouri
@gabemissouri Жыл бұрын
@@DerNomade1871 thanks, I like your pfp too. I'm thinking since I play vr I should make a blade and sorcery kill compilation with the atomic heart soundtrack in the background. Should I go for it?
@danieldubrovin8813
@danieldubrovin8813 Жыл бұрын
Don't tell harenko about the alternate history subgenre as a whole, he can't handle fiction
@BigFinn
@BigFinn Жыл бұрын
As a history student, I want to thank you dearly for making this video. I love how you included how we shouldn’t generalize people based on their origin, and I love how you made this video and how it was presented. It is 100% ok for a person who isn’t political to share their opinion about a serious topic. All voices deserve to be heard and in many cases, it helps people to feel more comfortable about speaking out for or against something, and for that I thank you again for taking the time to make this great video.
@vorpalkickass8825
@vorpalkickass8825 Жыл бұрын
Hey, remember when, back in the day, videogames were videogames, and no one tried to force some weird ass political asspull on the companies? Personally, I think the idea of a soviet-themed game is really cool, due to it rarely being explored. the whole soviet post-modernism, and dreams of space age... I still get nostalgia for a past that never was, thinking about it? Am I pro russian because of that now? Or am I just "dodging the issue"?
@georgros4199
@georgros4199 Жыл бұрын
Да, теперь ты русский. Добро пожаловать, товарищ.
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 Жыл бұрын
Записан в русские! Добро пожаловать!
@elstan690
@elstan690 Жыл бұрын
You are enjoyer. You are player. You are Friend.
@Ragsimier
@Ragsimier Жыл бұрын
Мои поздравления с становлением русским!
@blank3041
@blank3041 Жыл бұрын
It's also weird he lied about gaijin leaving Russia in ~2022 when they actually left in 2015.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
It's not that weird considering he removes negative comments and claims they were all one day old Russian bot accounts. Dishonest people will say dishonest things.
@morski_ludak2239
@morski_ludak2239 Жыл бұрын
On the term of service written in Russian says the information gathered will be provided to the Federal security services, complying with the Federal State Law 😐😐😐 Meaning, they just follow the frikking law of their country, which is something you can't find a workaround for but Harenko missed saying that part i guess.. After that its in the terms exactly which laws from which paragraphs etc. etc. are evoked there. I mean it's absolutely inevitable. I don't find it right to condemn everything with Russian in front of it. For me that's Fashiz
@mindedbirdjk4737
@mindedbirdjk4737 Жыл бұрын
It really shows how removing dislikes can be counterproductive. That paired with the censorship of people asking real questions can be straight up propaganda. Imagine we didn’t have the plug-in to show dislikes again and he just fooled another in being even more xenophobic to devs based in the heart of Russia. That aside, very nice video, I will admit the weirdness of showing the robots wasn’t that bad to me until they showed one of the robots squatting over you lmao, they definitely wanted to attract more audiences and I don’t think it sets back progress of “not objectifying women”
@daveabobda6239
@daveabobda6239 Жыл бұрын
Harenko really thinks that 60 dollars is going to single-handedly turn the tide of the war
@callmegulker
@callmegulker Жыл бұрын
You'd be lucky to get a box of 5.45 ammo to feed your ak with for that much
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213 Жыл бұрын
"But you dont understand! 60 bucks is one Kinjal-Supercryptonite-warhead-rocket for Pootins Wehrmacht1!1!!!1"
@VeSpEr7iNe
@VeSpEr7iNe Жыл бұрын
that video was just a lame irrational russia-phobic propaganda
@chenchen6150
@chenchen6150 Жыл бұрын
Military funding cost billion to trillion dollar even Elden ring sale doesn't reach the requirement of military ration alone.
@kabardino1337
@kabardino1337 Жыл бұрын
​@@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213As if one of those NATO wunderwaffen would be of any help... Those people probably think the Confederacy would've won if they had laser rifles or something... or any other uninformed childish conception about war..
@friendlyneighborhoodinquis1682
@friendlyneighborhoodinquis1682 Жыл бұрын
the tagline of the latest trailer was, and I quote, "The Utopian Dream is not what it seems". Much like how Rapture or Colombia of Bioshock seem really nice on the surface until you dig deeper, seeing the consequences of such regimes, I have no doubt that Atomic Heart will do the same. This Harenko guy really missed the mark...and honestly I may be alone here but I will defend that party they held since I think it's glossy, shiny exterior does reinforce the idea that the game is trying to produce, "the USSR looks really nice doesn't it? On the surface, at least". If 2K had a Rapture themed banquet I'd hardly say they are glorifying Ayn Rand
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Ah, finally: The Inquisition is here. But seriously, he did either massively miss the mark or manipulate everything about the game to fit his ideology. And for the banquet: There were other people in the comments also defending the party and for all that's worth, I think so too. I talk about it only briefly, but I think it definitely makes immersive sense to have a press-conferrnce like that. I just didn't want to talk about it that much, as I wanted to really focus on the more important parts of his lunacy.
@friendlyneighborhoodinquis1682
@friendlyneighborhoodinquis1682 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt Ordo Commentus, at your service! and totally fair, it was more of a sidenote really and his other claims are far more serious. I know this isn't your usual content but I'm glad to see someone else was as repulsed by this vid as i was, art should never be decried purely based off of the ethnicity or nationality of the artist. I've been following Atomic Heart a long time and while my skepticism keeps me from preordering I do hope it delivers as an aside: I am glad that this vid was recommended to me. Not because of any youtube drama, but because I found a lovely tutorial on painting my death korps because of it. Consider me subscribed sir
@1227CGanimated
@1227CGanimated Жыл бұрын
And that's why I'm not going to buy this game. It seems like the kind of game Andrew Ryan would make. So fuck it.
@azural5722
@azural5722 Жыл бұрын
Two things made me *extremely suspicious* when I first came across the video. First was the almost immediate attack towards half the people watching. Because that's always a smart way to get people to hear what you have to say. Then I went to see what people's reactions are. After all, KZbin got rid of the dislike counter. So seeing people's thoughts in the comments is pretty much all you get for seeing that. Before even seeing what he hadn't delete yet, I see his pinned comment. Saying that they had to "limit" the comments due to "bot swarming". Right, so pointing out the blatant attack in the first three minutes counts as "bot swarming". For context, my comment pointing that out wasn't even allowed to be posted. Hmmmmmmmmm... Yup, sensible human being here.
@Lelmao33
@Lelmao33 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the only people that seems to be on Harenko side is r/gamingcirclejerk
@H3nry2077
@H3nry2077 Жыл бұрын
I commented this in his video but it got deleted, but I think its funny how he mentions Wolfenstein talking about the party they held but conveniently leaves it out when talking about the setting of the game.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, he deleted mine too ^^'. And yeah, I was just as suprised/ frustrated about his nitpicking.
@ags8507
@ags8507 Жыл бұрын
*Game glorifies USA in the year 19xx* i sleep *Game glorifies soviet union in 195x* REAL SHIT
@benedekpankotay2819
@benedekpankotay2819 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't even glorifies it. For example it has such a beautiful conversation about how in total equality there will be people who are more equals than others
@ТаисияТропина-ы2с
@ТаисияТропина-ы2с Жыл бұрын
As a jewish russian learning german and german culture in uni, i feel like judging a videogame by country of its origin is taking us back to some really dark times in history. So I am thankful for your video and words! It was very well put together.
@crispyone2564
@crispyone2564 Жыл бұрын
They didnt offer the pre order 5 yers ago that was just an announcement to get people to wishlist it. The preorder was years later. He framed that very dubiously
@WristTapeDrowzzy
@WristTapeDrowzzy Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for speaking up like this. Smalls steps such as this is needed to stop any spread of xenophobia. Intentional or not.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
@i_s_u-c_l_o_n_e637
@i_s_u-c_l_o_n_e637 Жыл бұрын
Dude saw the Hogwarts Legacy "boycott" and was emboldened by it. It didn't matter that that boycott was never going to work just that it got a lot of attention. I'm fully glad this is going to, likely, fail and hopefully these weirdos who say these things are guilty purely by association.
@goldzior1128
@goldzior1128 Жыл бұрын
That fact that Hogwarts did very well despite their boycott makes me pleased since it means that it's a loud minority
@bennitooo6913
@bennitooo6913 Жыл бұрын
Most people are gonna say ooooh trippy russian game with robots, oooh retro futurism aesthetic than buy it. Weirdo boycotts don't actually appeal to consumers that aren't moral busy bodies online, hell I'd reckon lot of these folk don't even play games. I noticed they'll cancel stuff without actually knowing the context.
@silent0089
@silent0089 Жыл бұрын
as if its gonna work
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213 Жыл бұрын
Ah this trend will bloom and we will see much more "internet activist game-boycotts" in the future lol
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
@@goldzior1128 It did well but they successfully distanced Rowling from society more so than before. People would sooner explain why they're not associated with Rowling therefore clean, than refuse to concede that ground in the first place.
@omegaheartless
@omegaheartless Жыл бұрын
What I find funny is that Hatenko looked at the tweet saying that the company doesn't talk about politics (full stop) as they aren't putting politics in their game.... One does not equate to the other.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
He's one of those 'literally impossible not to talk about politics' guys therefore you might as well pick a side and go all in.
@ducksgood817
@ducksgood817 Жыл бұрын
What a coincidence that randomly one of his videos, out of all the videos on KZbin, is getting botted so he has to delete those "botted" comments and turn off replies.
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 Жыл бұрын
6:00 This is mainly because a game like Fallout doesn't force an ideology on you or censors things. It only presents ideas and let's you decide, which is why nobody holds them accountable. This is contrasted to stuff like Blizzard, where the Chinese government involved money comes in, and they have to censor things to appease them.
@dwayneasher6765
@dwayneasher6765 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@RED_Theory038
@RED_Theory038 Жыл бұрын
Blizzard doesn't work as an example here. Whatever they decide to censor only affects the western release of the game while China has their own that does comply with their media policies like no skeletons and spirits. Can you give a specific example in the western release that was censored at the request of the Chinese? Because it doesn't make sense they'd want the western version censored if they already have their own that does follow their guidelines.
@alexkozliayev9902
@alexkozliayev9902 Жыл бұрын
20:08 i don't like communism as much as the other guy, but it's not strange because: a) the banquet is supposed to be in in-game universe b) there are a lot of remains of ussr in post-soviet countries, people look at communism just as a part of history c) even world wide there are a lot of communist/communist adjacent political parties, and they do not cause as much outrage as nazi parties (even though they probably should)
@ivankuznetsov8177
@ivankuznetsov8177 Жыл бұрын
Furthermore the Soviet Union is dead over three goddamn decades. How the game could propagate the ideals of the country that is no more. I bet the game will have the anti-Soviet message to the player that’ll probably trigger some most loyal lefties.
@josejuanferreirohuezo7596
@josejuanferreirohuezo7596 Жыл бұрын
To all this it is not supposed that current Russia is a capitalist(oligarchic capitalism) country?
@alexkozliayev9902
@alexkozliayev9902 Жыл бұрын
@@josejuanferreirohuezo7596 technically maybe. It's more plutocratic police state. Ideologically russia embraced capitalism maybe for a decade after crash of soviet union, but not more. A lot of people still see communism as something good, that we've lost.
@AndRei-yc3ti
@AndRei-yc3ti Жыл бұрын
Nah they shouldn't. Alot of what we know as "Canon" is simply because the US won the cold war. The truth is far more nuanced as always.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
"people look at communism just as a part of history" This is true but this kind of thinking unfortunately is not universal. There is no such thing anymore as 'just history'.
@i3sN
@i3sN Жыл бұрын
Напишу вам на своём языке, так я смогу более точно передать свою мысль. Помните что переводчик может допустить ошибки. Хочу сказать о "передаче данных государственным органам". Я не могу говорить о законах европейских государств, но относительно законов моей страны, то разработчики сообщили что при необходимости они должны будут передать данные государству, т.к правоохранительные структуры могут получать доступ к любым данным компаний. Вероятно такой закон существует и в вашем государстве, но в этом я не уверен. Перечень того, что имеет право затребовать ФСБ (Федеральная служба безопасности): - идентификатор пользователя (логин); - все адреса электронной почты; - список всех контактов, категории контактов (друзья, подписчики); - количество и объем полученных и переданных пользователем сообщений; - все изменения в аккаунте и попытки его удаления; - дата и время посещения тех или иных страниц; - названия устройств, с которых выходит в интернет пользователь, и какие программы и DNS-серверы при этом использует; - доступ к данным о платных услугах, которые пользователи приобретают у интернет-компаний, включая сумму и название платежной системы (на продажу товаров через интернет эта норма не распространяется). Все эти данные компании/сайты должны хранить 6 месяцев. В регламенте прописана ситуация, когда компания может не хранить такие данные, но тогда она должна дать полный доступ к своему сервису на постоянной основе (т.е. доступ к серверам, коду и так далее) и правоохранительные органы сами будут заниматься сбором данных. Если раньше необходимо было решение суда, то теперь интернет-компании обязаны предоставлять все данные о пользователях по первому же запросу уполномоченных органов, ведущих оперативно-розыскную деятельность. Статью удалили вероятно в связи с тем, что компания переехала и теперь не обязана передавать подобную информацию. Спасибо за прочтение.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for explaining the situation to me; I think the translator I used did a good job for me and I am really glad to now have a better picture of what was going on with the user-data-policies. Thank you for this truly elaborate comment, I highly appreciate it.
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213
@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213 Жыл бұрын
So what if the FSB has my data, just like my countries secret service and all western agencies have? Hell, there are probably some singaporean fishermen-hackers in China who have our data right now! What is the FSB gonna do? Send rockets to everyone who bought the game? Pls, everyone of us is being monitored 24/7...
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
@@menschgebliebenergossenpar9213 And yet I still get ads for stuff I literally despise XD... like, c'mon if you have all my data, pls at least cater the right ads.😅
@ustinove.6296
@ustinove.6296 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt Отвечу тоже на своем языке... 1. Стоит почитать лицензионное соглашение. 2 Сайт фирмы не на российском провайдере. 3. Кипр, мать твою, КИПР)
@schmietwechdeschiet4340
@schmietwechdeschiet4340 Жыл бұрын
i would be suprised if CIA doesnt care about the law in any country, they get your data.
@loganr6203
@loganr6203 Жыл бұрын
The thing he says that REALLY bothers me is him thinking that using a political engine as a backdrop that means that you 100% support that ideology. It makes absolutely zero sense, and he says it with such conviction.
@Madcat1331
@Madcat1331 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for speaking out. I was conflicted upon seeing the video because it was seething with hate and all of the comments were so supportive (I now see why...), I truly thought that it has come to the point where any game developed by Russian people would be despised. And it's a terrifying thought as I too love and want to make games. It brings me a sense of relief to see that some people are still out there who view us as people in an unfortunate place, not government agents or troll bots
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Although I don't think that I could really convince Harenko's supporters, I'm still really glad that I could provide a platform for people to truly, freely speak their mind and make the other side of the coin known. And seeing so many people agree with me, is also relieving to say the least. Best of luck to you and your aspirations!
@hoarder1975
@hoarder1975 Жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie-when I saw that video and promptly disagreed, I had a bit of a moral crisis when I saw all of the comments were agreeing with him and I was like; “Wow, am I wrong? Is something wrong with my thinking?” But then I realized he was just deleting all the negative comments.
@Theinrich
@Theinrich Жыл бұрын
Ill be honest here. When the Atomic Heart video got recommended to me, I couldnt watch past the 1 minute mark. Too many snarky, unsympathetic remarks. Anyways, releasing a hot take is not that bad, but deleting every negative comment and disabling the comment section when the hot take turns out to be quite controversial is... really, really dumb. Bah.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
Goes to show how dishonest he is.
@KusunokiSG47
@KusunokiSG47 Жыл бұрын
My country did the same of what Harenko did Long story short, somehow somewhat there's this paper report that WcDonadls have ties with Israel, while country support Palestine So then people begun to ostracize the fast food chain, boycott, protest and the likes Now that I grown up, I see and understood it, these people hate those plausible undiserable tangibles, not the product itself
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insights, your outline of the problem is absolutely spot-on. I do think that this problem really is just a phenomenon that'll always be there in human nature, with any industry, company or people as it's possible victim, which makes it even more important that we make ourselves aware of it, to not get swept away with our emotions. Your case is just another good example, of how this train of thought really has no boundaries...
@unknowngod8221
@unknowngod8221 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt it not human nature but because our ideology which is bad but still i get your point
@derekpark9832
@derekpark9832 Жыл бұрын
Comforts me so much to see that I’m not the only one who questioned his absurd reasoning
@HelloKolla
@HelloKolla Жыл бұрын
The goddamn tagline of this game is "The utopian dream is not what it seems." Propaganda my bum. My guess is that this will be like Bioshock; a deconstruction of the ideology it portrays. What adds validity to this idea is that the game director Robert said that the game will have 2 endings, and that he hopes that they will "generate interesting discussions about which one is best". I dunno about you, but 'generating interesting discussions' isn't a quality you typically associate with a piece of propaganda.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I'm learning more about this game with every single comment, I love it. Very interesting indeed. Also very well spoken: Pointing out that this game so far ticks off all the criteria on the exact opposite end of propaganda, is something that I think I haven't adressed clearly enough in my response. Thanks for commenting!
@HelloKolla
@HelloKolla Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt you're welcome, good sir! Here's some more tidbits about the game: The composer of this game's music is Mick Gordon, the creator of the iconic soundtracks of the modern Doom games. When the "AH is a scam" rumours were at their peak, Mundfish put out a vid with Richard 'Levellord' Grey, one of the level designers of Duke Nukem, one the most influential FPSs ever made. He explained how he had left the industry for a long time due to him feeling that the industry wasn't as creative anymore, but was so enamoured with AH that he's now an ambassador for the studio. He also dispelled the rumors. The vid is in the AH YT channel.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
@@HelloKolla Whoa, this IS cool! Honestly, 3 days ago, I couldn‘t have cared less for the game if I tried to, but first getting bundled up with it via politics and now getting ever more interesting facts about it, really catches my interest. The history of the game, once it settles in after launch, will surely be quite the unique one. Thanks a lot for sharing even more insights about the game, especially completely unprompted and without trying to argue a point. I highly appreciate the extra-effort.
@MRworldEtIkA
@MRworldEtIkA Жыл бұрын
as an Indonesian🇮🇩 don't care about what are people saying about this game, i don't care if my money goes into war funds, if the game is good then it is worth my hard earned money.
@KarmineSlash
@KarmineSlash Жыл бұрын
Then you're a mindless mule, undoubtedly
@TheFruitcake1983
@TheFruitcake1983 Жыл бұрын
True comment about people not caring if someone gets killed somewhere. It's just that the covid agenda has been changed to a war agenda in all the world's media.
@AlphaWolfShade
@AlphaWolfShade Жыл бұрын
True. What people do with their own money is their business, not yours. Once you exchange your money for a copy, it's not yours anymore.
@AndRei-yc3ti
@AndRei-yc3ti Жыл бұрын
If you bought anything American during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, your money was going into the warfund to kill those people. So claiming you won't buy AH just because "it supports the Russian war" is hypocrisy. Glad you have a consistent position :)
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Getting sick of this join us or you're against us mentality. Europe's problems are the world's problems, but your problems are your problems. No wonder Africans and Asians want nothing to do with this.
@anfrex3342
@anfrex3342 Жыл бұрын
People stop making Harenko jokes, you can have a son like him.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Oh god, please don't... ^^'
@man3son1
@man3son1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video response. You’ve done a marvellous job. I must (sadly) admit that I didn’t both watching Harenkos video after his first few lines. I see no point in listening to someone who would act condescending towards his potential audience.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. I did turn his video off after two minutes as well for the same reason and only went back because I just had to know what someone with that kinda mindset would talk about in his actual points. ^^'
@nolives
@nolives Жыл бұрын
The reason Imnot buying it is because I think the earlier builds from years ago looked way better. It was slow, queit, ominous and the combbat was weighty and slow to match. Now its super fast, loud, and action driven with twitch combat like every other shooter.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can totally understand that. The game in and of itself, doesn't appeal to me either, the comebat does look really diorientating. Especially that spinny axe-attack that they kept showing off; Thanks for sharing the first reasonable opinion about this game yet. ^^
@tama7026
@tama7026 Жыл бұрын
The game hasn't come out and ppl already talking crap... I was really excited to see a new IP coming from Eastern Europe pretty much like STALKER in its day was fresh and inovative. I hope ppl give it a chance to Aromic Heart
@MrTax-mp4ju
@MrTax-mp4ju Жыл бұрын
Thankfully I decided to give a chance to atomic heart (I tried to boycott it by the way) and I dont regret anything. This is one of the best game I ever played.
@BanishedSilentShadow3318
@BanishedSilentShadow3318 Жыл бұрын
I feel this guy is grasping at straws, like what's going on with Ukraine and Russia is bad and I hope the families are safe. But for him to say this game is propaganda is like saying wolfenstein is a propaganda game because the nazis were better than the US in engineering. The guy making the game is obviously gonna remain neutral in this, I wouldn't want to get in the bad side of the Russian government at that point
@stefaron1078
@stefaron1078 Жыл бұрын
8:43 the court imposed a fine of 80,000 rubles (1230euro). after that she left for France. At the expense of the Ukrainian author's video, I can say that I am very glad, I am glad of the statistics of likes and dislikes, this makes it clear to me that there are still adequate people in the West without ultra-left inclinations. In American films and games, Russian is mostly negative characters, especially if we talk about the call of duty series, but in Russia such games and films are not banned and are quietly sold, although there is frankly US propaganda there. I think this already says a lot about freedom of speech in Russia
@BigSleepyOx
@BigSleepyOx Жыл бұрын
'LMAO about "freedom of speech in Russia". It's illegal to criticize the war in Russia. Indeed, even calling it a war rather than "special military operation" can get you 15 years in the gulag. BTW, Biden gave a State of the Union speech to congress a few days ago. During the speech, the opposition party members yelled "LIAR!" to him. You think that would be allowed in Russia? Stop with that "freedom of speech in Russia" nonsense.
@АртемПлясунов-л3о
@АртемПлясунов-л3о Жыл бұрын
@@BigSleepyOx 🤣🤣🤣🤣 лол напомни сколько там было посажено свободных американец во время протестов против войны в ираке
@nosidenoside2458
@nosidenoside2458 Жыл бұрын
I bought it and it's good. A weird open world where they reinforce you not being at the top of the food chain via a system of cameras that summon enemies if you stand in front of them for too long. Overall very polished though, I've had 3 crashes in my entire playthrough so far, and I'm past the museum. Overall it's basically a triple a game but actually complete
@bioshock3d-
@bioshock3d- Жыл бұрын
If him being upset over the robot twins is valid then everyone should be upset with Capcom leading RE8 with Lady D and her daughters.
@mr.vanillamilkshake3
@mr.vanillamilkshake3 Жыл бұрын
This is clearly a masterclass on how not to criticise a form of media. Let's count the rules you can get from here. #1: Don't judge the developers for actions that they aren't evidently responsible for. #2: Looking at the production is fine and all, but at least wait until the actual product is released first. #3: Economics is a wretched hive of scum and villainy as is, so don't bother trying to link a piece of media when economics are near-ubiquitous in practice. #4: Learn to differentiate reality from fantasy. #5: Going on a filibuster about gratuitous fanservice is ultimately meaningless. It's why I personally just treat everyone (myself included) as skeletons in fully customisable meatsuits. "The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common: they don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views." -The Fourth Doctor, "Doctor Who: The Face of Evil" (1977)
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Important lessons to be sure, rounded off with a great quote at the end. Great comment, thank you.
@zackfitz1033
@zackfitz1033 Жыл бұрын
Just got recommended this video, checked out the rest of your channel and yourve definatly earned my subscription
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much! I'm glad that this video gets as much attention as I hoped, but having people stay for my more fun and creative content, is just the best. Thanks for subbing, I hope you'll like it here ;)
@Dullsonic3
@Dullsonic3 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I remember, it was the one that I did not watch but commented “I don’t care I am still buying it” or something like that.
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
As someone who hates the war unleashed by Putin, I am shocked by such stupid arguments of Harenko, it directly turns, let's destroy Japanese and German cars, because they were enemies. You can understand the emotion, and understand the hatred, but present it as an argument, and other baseless arguments. For me, the game seemed and still seems to be a strange game for fans, and probably unfinished, like Stalker. But I am also annoyed by the pro-Military people who hate Ukraine for various reasons, they come and spam. They spam that Ukraine is to blame for everything, and the whole world is against Russia. But in Call of Duty, Russians are always shown as bad and Nazis, but missing the point that some American general or commander is usually to blame for everything, to blame for a world nuclear war or even a space war, her, it's because the Americans have always been bad.
@josephkush1032
@josephkush1032 Жыл бұрын
The US started this conflict when they funded and backed the coup government that later bombed east ukraine since 2014
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
@@josephkush1032 asf dmbass
@josephkush1032
@josephkush1032 Жыл бұрын
@cqcarc Maybe learn some history hugh?
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
@@josephkush1032 real shizo
@cqcarc
@cqcarc Жыл бұрын
​@V another adherent of the faith that Russophobia and the rewriting of history against Russia? that the game is capable of (COD) destroying a country and rewriting history? people Russia and the USSR staged no less wars, if not more than the United States in the 20th century. It's just that in the countries of the West it is now not customary to speak badly about the USSR, and the USSR was the main enemy of the peace and humanity. War crimes for Russia, that is, the direct heir to the USSR, is a long list of war crimes, and crimes against its own citizens, especially against its own citizens, which have not been dreamed of in a nightmare by any country in the West.
@13H
@13H Жыл бұрын
Thank god there are sane people like you
@shishka_rezhet
@shishka_rezhet Жыл бұрын
As a Russian, I want to thank you very much. I completely agree with your thoughts. This is some horror going on around Atomic Heart. Guys have been developing the game for more than 6 years and now they are called names from all sides and tried to cancel just because they are Russians. Russian gamers (and not only gamers, even fans) seeing such a bad attitude towards Atomic Heart, ran to place a pre-order for the most expensive edition to support Mundfish efforts and show them that they have support and faith in them. The Russians, by pre-ordering the game, also hope to save the Russian gamemode, which is in a very bad condition due to the structure of our state. After all, if a company starts to stand out somehow or make good money, they start to follow it closely and can buy it out by force. The most popular example: when the Durov brothers created VK (a cool analog of Facebook in Russia) and started making huge sums of money, they were forced to submit to the state. In the end, Durov sold the company to the state and founded the famous messenger Telegram in Dubai. Durov was able to make two cool projects in a row, but such people are not needed here. That is why almost the entire Russian IT community is leaving Russia. I want to say thank you from most Russian people for the words of support and adequate opinion. It is hard for us now, but it is even harder for Ukrainians (I have ~25% of relatives there, as well as many Russians). Links to your video are shared by ordinary gamers in Russian social networks, dedicated to Atomic Heart, and people are very happy and sympathetic to your adequate opinion. To all the people of peaceful life and adequacy.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, I didn't know that things were that bad in Russian industries... damn, no wonder they're already starting to re-locate- what your describing borders on dytopian horror! Wow, I truly feel for the Russian populace, as you really seem to be beset on all sides... I hope that things soon turn for the better for all of you, Ukranian and Russian. Thanks for helping me spread the word by sharing this video as well! Seeing how much attention Harenko's video got, I wanna reach as much people as possible, to quickly establish a counterweight and not have him dominate the opinion of the un-decided. Thank you for your insights and I am glad to help in keeping the whole debate going, especially against Harenko's and other people's racist remarks against your people. As a German, I know how much time it takes for other folks to not judge you by your country's past and especially with the prejudices already persisting after the cold war, I can't emphasize enough how sick I am to see the average Russian being lumped together with their state's policies. Stay safe out there. And thanks again for your comment.
@shishka_rezhet
@shishka_rezhet Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt And thank you again for supporting the adequate side of this conflict.
@aenodarr7936
@aenodarr7936 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt He was "forced" to leave because he didn't give out data about 2014 Maidan (an illegal coup d'etat in Ukraine) organizers that communicated through VK, this law of giving up information on users to local authorities is present in US, UK, Germany, Russia and so on, but only in Russia is called out... It's almost like the other russian guy gave out a half truth/half lie.
@shishka_rezhet
@shishka_rezhet Жыл бұрын
@@aenodarr7936 Galitsky sold the Magnit chain of stores to the state, too, because of the law? Or Tinkov, who sold one of the most technologically advanced banks in the world for ridiculous money, also because of the law?
@Dmytro-kt3fr
@Dmytro-kt3fr Жыл бұрын
@@aenodarr7936 бомбили донбас 8 лет да? для таких как ты уже миллиард часовых видео где 14год по полочкам разбирается хотя чего я распинаюсь. все же хорошо, скоро хохлов уничтожат, рф вернет исторические земли. А Берега не убили, в лнр не выключают сеть при отсутствии связи у военных и по угледаром все хорошо, Евгений Викторович уже набрал 10 миллионов американцев так победим, гойда.
@hermitcard4494
@hermitcard4494 Жыл бұрын
Dont dare to demand audience to obey. They will do the opposite.
@MessDeadeye
@MessDeadeye Жыл бұрын
It's good to see a callout like this not fueled by hate or disdain, but with facts, reason, and an unbiased opinion. You handled this greatly, sir.
@peternehemiah1606
@peternehemiah1606 Жыл бұрын
Reject harenko Embrace robomommies
@elusiveDEVIANT
@elusiveDEVIANT Жыл бұрын
This game is amazing. I was blown away by the start. There are a few issues, but my complaints are on scale. But this is their first game. For being their first game, this is truly something to be proud of. The gameplay is fun, lots of different ways to go about combat and the puzzles are actually pretty neat. Enemies are super neat and I think the story is really awesome as well. I only hope they take what they have and just improve it.
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz Жыл бұрын
All that dude had to do was leave the comments alone. Now he has multiple videos dabbing on him and his cause.
@thelieutenant7732
@thelieutenant7732 Жыл бұрын
Well, it was unlikely that I would cross paths with your channel, but by coincidence I too have watched Harenko's video. Luckily for me, I'm also starting to get into figure painting.
@eldiablo73077
@eldiablo73077 Жыл бұрын
Despite im from Ukrainian. Yeah im sick of war and everything politicized
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I can imagine. With all the tragedies, it is really hard to keep the humanity of a people.
@eldiablo73077
@eldiablo73077 Жыл бұрын
@@BrinkofArt yeah..
@renzmanzano4010
@renzmanzano4010 Жыл бұрын
I will make sure to buy stalker 2 to balance out buying atomic hearts so you guys and the russians and keep doing what your doing.
@eldiablo73077
@eldiablo73077 Жыл бұрын
@@renzmanzano4010 ok
@egorla89
@egorla89 Жыл бұрын
@@renzmanzano4010 lol, Ukrainians and Russians need to make more games so they can continue this war. Without these games, nothing will come of it
@Bluntguts_
@Bluntguts_ Жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see I wasn’t they only who thought this guy was shady, he kept deleting my comments on his video thank you for bringing light !!!
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt about the comments for the longest time, but mine are now deleted as well, so there is definitely something shady going on.
@wolfgangallanalhazred802
@wolfgangallanalhazred802 Жыл бұрын
"I love Atomic Heart lol." -Joseph Stalin
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God THANK YOU FOR THIS! I made many of the same points you did in the comments section... It was PURE lunacy, especially with how the videos creator expected the game developers to openly SPEAK OUT against their own communist country.... How does it not click? Is he completely unaware the level of career deletion that would be? Honestly it's personal deletion at that point! I was absolutely destroyed in the comments section calling me a racist, a hypocrite, people wishing my own deletion, deletion threats on my own life etc etc..... People are going absolutely NUTS!
@AlphaWolfShade
@AlphaWolfShade Жыл бұрын
There's something to be said about "The Tolerant Left, Online Activists and all of them actually being society's elites looking down upon everyone else from their ivory towers."
@TerminalM193
@TerminalM193 Жыл бұрын
@@AlphaWolfShade Yea, sadly it seems the vast majority of the population from first world all the way to third world don't see it as such. Those in the ivory tower have become masters of manipulation. The more they divide us the stronger they become, enforcing new unconstitutional "laws", further stripping us of our God given rights. They've done an amazing job at taking small baby steps of encroachment, sneaking their elitist mindsets by dividing families with new pc social norms..... I could go on and on but the frustration I have will only grow because I don't see things ever going back to normal.... Whatever normal even means....
@Mk2four3
@Mk2four3 Жыл бұрын
Putin: Someone bought 3 copies of Atomic Heart? *Splendid, send in 50 more Kalibr missiles to Ukraine's power grid.*
@AndRei-yc3ti
@AndRei-yc3ti Жыл бұрын
As a Ukrainian I wrote a comment criticizing his takes and questioning them but it seems my comment disappeared. Now I know why. I also translated the Russian "stealing your data" from the source he used and stated he had lied. That was also in the comment I also questioned why he was so opposed to buying the game "and funding the Russian government" but had no qualms about buying American games like COD and funding the deaths of Iraqis. The double standard got to me.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations. You're an honorary Russian now.
@egorla89
@egorla89 Жыл бұрын
Слишком лень заниматься переводом всего что будет далее из-за Харенко, надеюсь ты воспользуется переводчиком))). Товарищ Харенко типичный украинец, который считает что ВЕСЬ мир должен молиться на украинцев и отдавать ему последние трусы. По поводу политики безопасности, есть версия этой странички на английском языке, где сказано, что по требованию государства резидентом которой является пользователь данные могут быть переданы соответствующим органам. Буквально, если ЦРУ запросит данные о американцах которые играют в Atomic Heart компания эти данные предоставит, не более. Если кто-то боится такого то срочно удалите KZbin, Google, Facebook, Android, Windows и больше никогда не приближайтесь к электронным устройствам на 100 км. В целом ты был довольно объективен, спасибо тебе за это. Это была позиция четких аргументов и логики. В отличие от Харенко. Хотя ты как иностранец делаешь много не правильных выводов о России, иногда ловил фейспалм))) Thank you for your opinion, I hope you see and hear as many people as possible. You are truly an adult and intelligent person. Дуже сподіваюся що колись у моїй країні президентом буде людина хоча б на 20% схожа на Путіна. Так знищити країну навіть США в Іраку чи Афганістані не змогли, як наші президенти Upd: мне как коренному украинцу очень обидно что весь мир запомнит нас по таким Харенко, а не из-за изобретения лекарства от рака например((( Upd2: Харенко наплевать на сексуализацию женщин в играх, он просто знает что на западе это больная тема и только поэтому он упоминает об этом. Только для того чтобы активисты начали ему сопереживать.
@RocketEightEight
@RocketEightEight Жыл бұрын
Насчет Путина хз, конечно. Мне со стороны больно наблюдать такую слепую ненависть и нежелание дифференцировать людей, будучи далеко от всего этого.
@egorla89
@egorla89 Жыл бұрын
@@RocketEightEight ну объективно это человек который желает своей стране всего самого лучшего, если тебя так триггерит Путин, пускай это будет Черчилль))
@egorla89
@egorla89 Жыл бұрын
Я тут вспомнил одну интересную деталь о которой совершенно вылетело из головы. Украина до сих пор не перекрыла газовую трубу по которой идёт газ в Европу. Газпром и через него правительство РФ получает десятки миллиардов $. Так ответьте мне, не является ли это прямым спонсирование войны РФ со своей страной. Буквально представьте что правительство США финансирует террористов на ближнем востоке, с которыми солдаты США сражаются и умирают. Ой это происходит на самом деле) Кстати Украина получает неплохие деньги за транзит газа через свою территорию. Так что Газпром финансирует не только армию РФ, но и ВСУ. Вот в таком прекрасном мире мы с вами живём. Где над любыми идеологическими убеждениями или даже людскими жизнями стоят бабки)) Все те кто покупал у России ресурсы покупают их, только теперь по большей цене, а РФ продет свои ресурсы из которых делают танки, которые отправляют в Украину, чтобы убивать российских солдат
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 Жыл бұрын
Вот тебя, мужик, никогда язык не повернется назвать хохлом. Ты -- украинец. Таких как ты весь русский народ уважает.
@suprtroopr1028
@suprtroopr1028 Жыл бұрын
The thing is (and I do get it) it comes off kinda tone deaf to more or less e-beg people to not support a dev because it MIGHT support Russia, but to instead directly support his end of the war.
@jakedizzle
@jakedizzle Жыл бұрын
The terms of service were out of date when they used to be located in Moscow.
@the_real_inquisitor
@the_real_inquisitor Жыл бұрын
As a person allergic to real world propaganda, this video is great. Thanks for making it.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you approve; As mentioned, I usually don't wanna do this kind of content, but I'm glad to see the majority of people reacting in a similar way that you did. Thanks for the comment!
@samadamsbutnotthebeer
@samadamsbutnotthebeer Жыл бұрын
About the privacy policy: You can't find that privacy policy mentioned in Harenkos video anywhere other than screenshots. Its almost as if it was updated, or changed... The current TOS only has one section about collecting data, section 10 which talks about its anti-tamper technology. It details that it collects your IP, browser and version used, operating system, and the date and time to protect against tampering or using the game without a license. This data collection stops when you exit the game. There is nothing in the current TOS that says anything about collecting your data to send to any government.
@morgannyan2738
@morgannyan2738 Жыл бұрын
Remember how they tried to boycott Bayonetta 3 and Hogwarts legacy? Guess how that worked out for the cancel mob.
@BrinkofArt
@BrinkofArt Жыл бұрын
Usually, it really is just this annoying, obnoxious mob of people that can't really get anything done. This one here though, was just exceptionally enraging. ^^'
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
Hogwarts did well but people are still throwing Rowling under the bus to distance themselves from her. The lunatics did not leave empty handed.
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Жыл бұрын
People tried to cancel Bayonetta 3? I only know that game for have less punchy guns then the last 2 games.
@0madgahed0
@0madgahed0 Жыл бұрын
Coming in here late, but hell, who gives. Regarding that private data harvesting part. I can say with 80% certenty that the part of privacy policy which was used as an argument in only applicable to people who bought Atomic Heart in VK Play, a russian gaming platform where it was released for russians (and you cant buy the game on steam in Russia IIRC). Why is that stinky part of the privacy policy in there, or was there? It's simple, internal Russian law demands it. How do I know? I happen to live and work in mordor and familiar with local law. Why 80% certenty? Because I haven't seen the diagnostic data harvesting code, and I can't. Nice vid, btw)
@dehaimyoshan
@dehaimyoshan Жыл бұрын
I've heard of this game a few years ago and even back then it looked very nice, enough for me to want to play it at some point in time. Seeing tencent being involved is honestly the only reason I need to avoid the game. If where the money going was going to stop people from buying games no company under the EGS umbrella would have any sales ( basically any of the big game companies you can think of). People still bough the last of us/2, walking simulators, shitty remakes, unfinished products and even "games" like forspoken so given a game that looks good on top of not demonizing the largest demographic in gaming won't need much else to sell. The most the russian gov would do with every single penny from sales is buy enough munitions that could last a fraction of a day at best.
@danielomar9712
@danielomar9712 Жыл бұрын
You see , I'll buy Atomic Heart AND Stalker so i can fund both government , thus contributing to the Military Industrial Complex instead
@mgstation
@mgstation Жыл бұрын
Watching this video and listening I understand how strong is Western propaganda is, But at the same time I see that people trying to think on their own, like the creator of this video. Greetings from Russia! 🙂🤝
@CorpusInsanus
@CorpusInsanus Жыл бұрын
Overall a great video. You do a very good job of showing how personal bias can lead someone so far down a rabbit hole of their own making. Surprised you didn't touch on how at the very end of his video Harenko calls on the people still watching to mass flag the game on Steam, essentially trying to get it region locked or removed for "breaking" laws only in place in his country.
@roguewasbanned4746
@roguewasbanned4746 Жыл бұрын
I think the whole “how dare these people not get themselves thrown in prison just to appease my delicate sensibilities” is a ridiculous stance to have with a company. Ukraine simping has gotten way too out of hand, people have become straight up rusophobic bigots without thinking twice about it. You can still keep your stances without abandoning objective thinking entirely
@yoshika.kuzunoha
@yoshika.kuzunoha Жыл бұрын
A bit of details regarding journalist from 8:55, she did not disappear, after court and paying a fine she was left go and moved to Germany where she was hired as a freelancer by Die Welt.
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