The Most Devastating Trap of WW2?

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The Axis forces that had unified Rome and Berlin had been shattered, Mussolini had been deposed, and the Italians had lost the will to fight the invading Allies. In southern Italy, US and British forces were advancing north to push the Germans out of the Mediterranean country once and for all.
Still, Hitler declined to concede Italy and give the Allies another path into Germany; he would defend the peninsula even if the Italians refused to do so. Consequently, Germany established an unbending defensive wall known as the Gustav Line. Like waves against a rock, the Allies couldn’t advance through the German fortification.
Hence, a significant diversion was planned. A force spearheaded by elite US Army Rangers would land north of the wall and pierce through enemy territory, then capture the town of Cisterna, and force the Germans to fight simultaneously on two fronts.
The Rangers landed almost unopposed and expected to find an equally feeble resistance at Cisterna. They had been trained as a light and elite special force by British commandos, and US leaders expected them to seize the small Italian town without major complications.
Still, just as the Army Rangers began the attack, a Polish soldier that had deserted the German Army crossed the US frontline and warned the commanders of a massive defensive operation at Cisterna. But the officers disregarded the report, and the US servicemen walked right into one of the most brutal traps ever seen during World War 2…
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@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu Жыл бұрын
2/3 German troops were lost in Russia. If they hadn't invaded Russia, D-Day and any other Western campaign would have been a nightmare for the Allies.
@hollister2320
@hollister2320 Жыл бұрын
4/5 of the air and naval forces were facing the US/Uk/Western allies. So really, the Soviets were lucky to have even survived when most of the advanced equipment were not even being used on em
@TheEarl777
@TheEarl777 Жыл бұрын
The Russians lost 12.5 million. I’d say if they hadn’t fought like they did, we would be speaking Japanese here in NZ We should remember the Russians much more favourably for that
@ChrisCVW
@ChrisCVW Жыл бұрын
Strategically questionable to attack while still having Britain to the west, yes. You do however have to factor in the ideological necessity and that the USSR were not sitting passive, but rearming at pace. Stalin thought he had until Germany had neutralised their western threat, but he knew it was coming. So you have to balance the known foolhardiness of fighting a war on two fronts, the eternal German problem, with knowing that every month you delay the fight against the USSR gets harder, and that your ideological control of your own people erodes the longer you peacefully coexist with a people across the border that you are constantly telling them are an existential threat.
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@hollister2320
@hollister2320 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEarl777 are you serious? USSR (not Russia😕 btw) literally did nothing in the Pacific, that was primarily thanks to China/America/England/India/Australia. Soviets would have been sunk if they had faced Japan, since their navy was practically nonexistent. Even AFTER the nukes, Japan had a much stronger navy than USSR, hence why most historian say their threat of Japanese homeland invasion was only a bluff. They could only get territories in Manchuria since it was connected to Soviets, but no further.
@davidtorre7370
@davidtorre7370 Жыл бұрын
A few Polish soldiers in German service were captured a few days before the start of the Battle of the Bulge. They said that they were glad that they were captured because a big offensive was going to start. They were ignored.
@longtabsigo
@longtabsigo Жыл бұрын
I had a high school teacher who, when I returned home after graduating the SFQC, he told me he was a 4th Bn Ranger who managed to low crawl farther than he ever imagined he could until the bullets finally stopped ripping at his canteen as is was on his butt. He couldn’t lift his rear enough to unbuckle his web gear without being hit. The Germans kept following him with fire for the 2-3 hours he was crawling.
@barryb83110
@barryb83110 Жыл бұрын
My father tended to the very few survivors that made it back from the trapped units. He said they were so devastated they couldn't stop crying. All their friends were killed or captured.
@michaelmastroluca9671
@michaelmastroluca9671 Жыл бұрын
My parents lived through the occupation of Italy by the Germans. The Gustav line cut through my mothers town of Santa Maria Infante, which was bombed by the allies. My father’s town was on the coast but was sent south with the British but my my mother was sent north to an interment camp run by the Nazis. My mother cry’s when she sees what the Ukraine is going through. She is 94 years old.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 Жыл бұрын
Free Ukraine!!!! 🤠👍🇺🇦
@williambarrett70
@williambarrett70 Жыл бұрын
Wow!
@michaelmastroluca9671
@michaelmastroluca9671 Жыл бұрын
They can write an episode just on the battle of Santa Maria Infante. The 351 st infantry Division wrote “small unit actions” Santa Maria Infante 11-14 May 1944.
@thepoopman9951
@thepoopman9951 Жыл бұрын
Does your grandma cry out of joy bc all of the nazis being killed in Ukraine?
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 Жыл бұрын
@@thepoopman9951 Well seeing that the president of the Ukraine is Jewish!! I Suggest That You Go Troll Somewhere Else!!! 😠
@saintely475
@saintely475 Жыл бұрын
As always, a high quality and informative video. Thank you for all your hard work!
@michaelbinder4108
@michaelbinder4108 Жыл бұрын
My great uncle was a 1st Ranger battalion member under Darby. He was captured at Cisterna and shipped off to a prison camp at 22 years old.
@charlesmoore456
@charlesmoore456 Жыл бұрын
My old man was part of the armada that put men on the beaches of North Africa, Sicily, and Italy (along with southern France and Normandy in the North). He will always be the greatest man I ever knew. RIP, Pa. United States Coast Guard LCI(L)-324, MoMM1 Donald E. Moore Sr.
@bobsagget823
@bobsagget823 Жыл бұрын
nobody cares
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies Жыл бұрын
I've been along most of the western coast of Italy. My frequent thought was this terrain is perfect for defensive war and absolutely terrible for offensive. Most coastal "plains" are fairly short then very steep volcanic mountains and ridges erupt from the ground. From the ridges/mt tops you can survey miles of coast and miles out to sea. The "coastal plains" are clogged with villages, fences of all types and no straight roads. The Allies only "captured" Italy because the Germans pulled out.
@peteboll5034
@peteboll5034 Жыл бұрын
🇺🇸
@vickiebarlow9457
@vickiebarlow9457 Жыл бұрын
Mine was e also with the 82nd airborne 504th. He was hit by a 88 round up till he passed metal was still coming out of him. He passed on June 7th 2010 one hell of a man and Daddy.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh Жыл бұрын
Should have listened to the Polish deserter. Even if they doubted it, the intel should still have been considered and even an early recon sent out to scope the area. Ignoring any intel has always led to defeat and mass casualties. Some Commanders really had no idea and were too arrogant in their leadership.
@tonybony5805
@tonybony5805 Жыл бұрын
Its ironic that the poles were to first to reach the monastery and fight off the germans at monte cassino.
@stillededge
@stillededge Жыл бұрын
Easy on the judgment there boss. For every battle lost for ignoring intel, you can probably find one that was lost because the intel was wrong...intentionally or otherwise. "Operation Mincemeat", the Normandy invasion...all had elements of misleading intel. Sending out a recon is also potentially giving information to the enemy...or gathering false information. Say, Iwo Jima for instance "nothing there...two days to take it"...😫 In wars...the truth is rarely revealed until you are raining down fire on the enemy, or they are doing it to you. It's a murderous whirlwind of "What the F@&$? Is going on!?"
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh Жыл бұрын
@@stillededge I was in the Army, and we were always told to look at all intelligence. Sure, there is false ones at times. But a recon unit going out is not giving the enemy advance notice. The enemy has sent out recon as well, and majority of times the recons are just put down as patrols. Plus there is generally resistance in the area that is reporting as well. Iwo Jima is different as the Americans did not take into account underground defences. But that was the leaders underestimating the Japs. They believed that the Japs could not mount a defence due to their heavy losses in previous battles.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh Жыл бұрын
@@stillededge Oh, just to add, do you know why Operation Market Garden failed. Montgomery dismissed air recon photos showing two Panzer divisions at the Arnhem Bridge. Guess where the operation was stopped, Arnhem Bridge.
@gwilymmorgan5115
@gwilymmorgan5115 Жыл бұрын
There's a parallel here to airborne operations, notably Operation Market-Garden. WWII Rangers, Commandos and Paratroops were, by definition, light infantry, not equipped to assault strongly-defended positions, or to defend them for extended periods, especially against enemy armour.
@SenorQuichotte
@SenorQuichotte Жыл бұрын
I enjoy all the Dark channels, good stuff.
@ruperterskin2117
@ruperterskin2117 Жыл бұрын
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
@stuartharper3968
@stuartharper3968 Жыл бұрын
Always great, Dark Docs is best of the best on his channel.
@glennedgar5057
@glennedgar5057 Жыл бұрын
In Rick Atkinson book The Day of Battle he described this oprration. The US forces were delayed for several days and the commanders felt uneasy about the attack. Mark Clark forced thia attack. A more important point to be made here is the US treatmemt of elite commanders. Darby headed the Rangers. He was instrumental in African and Sicilian opetations. In Italy the Rangers and the devil brigade captured two peaks prior to the Anzio operation. Both of these units should have been at Casino to capture the peak. After the battle Darby was asigned yo staff. He finally got a position in the 10th Mountain and died in the last battle in Italy. Similiar stories occur for the initoal commander of the fitst infantry division and the second in command Rosevelt, Theordor Rozevelts son. This unit stoped the Africa Corps westword thrust in the Kasserine Pass battle as well as El Ager. The were sacked by Bradley and in Normandy Bradley would not give Rosevelt a command of a division be cause he care about his troops. To many troops were throen away because of callous commanders.
@tHEHEAd1138
@tHEHEAd1138 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for that.
@davidkinsey8657
@davidkinsey8657 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt had a command on D-Day. He landed on Utah Beach and won the Medal of Honor for his actions on June 6, 1944.
@hillbilly4895
@hillbilly4895 Жыл бұрын
Was Lucas ever relieved of command/reprimanded/court-martialed, etc? This was his train-wreck.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын
He asst. division commander Was given a division but died before taking command
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын
Nope sent to stateside duty
@vilmosgacsalyi5589
@vilmosgacsalyi5589 Жыл бұрын
Great content!
@StephenFleming-kk7uk
@StephenFleming-kk7uk Жыл бұрын
Too much non related film of Allied troops, such as New Zealanders at Cassino,which ave nothing to do with Anzio.
@scroungasworkshop4663
@scroungasworkshop4663 Жыл бұрын
How many times have those in command ignored those well below them at the cost of many lives? Was anyone ever held to account for ignoring the warning from a brave defector? I doubt it.
@guenoleadamantu8939
@guenoleadamantu8939 Жыл бұрын
A fost un act deliberat al comandanților americani de a omorî cât mai mulți militari din propria subordine. Ritualuri sataniste, asta este războiul într-un final.
@EdwardJoshu4
@EdwardJoshu4 Жыл бұрын
That's why when you already in the battlefield always believe that "No plan survives contact with the enemy" blatantly ignoring the warning lead to the fatal consequences. That's why when you operate on foreign land in WW2 it's better to had someone inside who can guide, understand the local languages and can updating your intel. Now in modern days warfare we are lucky to have so many advanced tools and hardware like a drone that can always updating your intel and tools to translating enemy language with ease.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies Жыл бұрын
Officers ignoring intel. How many military disasters have been caused by this? Countless. Sloppy or error-ridden information is not as bad as good intel that's ignored. Yeh, I'm looking at Bugout Doug MacArthur for top US trophy in this category.
@EdwardJoshu4
@EdwardJoshu4 Жыл бұрын
@@LuvBorderColliesToo many.... whether they overconfident with their force or just simply ignorant fool because they lack of experiences
@almartin2138
@almartin2138 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, look at WW1 for an example, countless waves and waves and waves of good young men (on all sides) ordered to run into automatic machine guns. Can you imagine how that must've felt just before being told to go "over the top"?
@thomasgumersell9607
@thomasgumersell9607 Жыл бұрын
A touching video on highly trained Rangers being unfortunetly left to fend for themselves. Against German Tanks and heavily armoured vechicles. The Rangers did their best and fought hard. Alas support was needed and intel was ignored by those in command. Thoughts and prayers to the Rangers who made the ultimate sacrifice. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@hman0007
@hman0007 Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I left the military was my lack of confidence in the leadership not to make bad decisions that would get me killed.
@soonerfrac4611
@soonerfrac4611 Жыл бұрын
Brigadier Colonel?!?! This ain’t no European army!
@thomasgumersell9607
@thomasgumersell9607 Жыл бұрын
@@hman0007 my Mum's Father my Grandfather was John Edington OBE, MBE. He was a Royal Engineer in WW1 and held the rank of Warrant Officer. King George personally decorated my Grandfather for Valor. In WW2 he was with MI6. My Mother said he cared deeply for those men under his command. One should i always believe lead by example when in combat. To many brave men and women made the ultimate sacrifice due to following orders. Orders that truly were not planned correctly and had bad Intel. Thank you for your service. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 Жыл бұрын
@@soonerfrac4611 I think you meant to say a Col. being trained to become a Brigadier. Same idea as being a Lady-in-Waiting.
@hman0007
@hman0007 Жыл бұрын
Maps with troop movements would really benefit this video.
@jeffmcdonald4225
@jeffmcdonald4225 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the most devastating trap of WW2, was Midway.
@billwesley2213
@billwesley2213 Жыл бұрын
THAT was a monumental trap.
@mig0150
@mig0150 Жыл бұрын
Biggest Naval trap - Midway Biggest Land trap - Stalingrad Imo Not sure what the biggest Airforce trap would be though
@marchellochiovelli7259
@marchellochiovelli7259 Жыл бұрын
@@mig0150 Any bombing run done before the introduction of the "Little Friends."
@robbpowell194
@robbpowell194 Жыл бұрын
@@mig0150 No argument from me
@jamespinkerton7534
@jamespinkerton7534 Жыл бұрын
Lucas had a plan? Well that's new opinion of what took place.
@raymerz46
@raymerz46 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see that there where a lot of critical points during 1943 till 1945 that could have led to loosing the war,very good video about how it realy unfolded.
@nemos9856
@nemos9856 Жыл бұрын
not really the soviets were already pushing hard so when the allies opened another front the germans had no chance
@rahrah5091
@rahrah5091 Жыл бұрын
This shows how older military thinking can not catch up to the times. The rangers were not used properly. This sadly has happened many times through out history.
@lesliefrank2266
@lesliefrank2266 Жыл бұрын
No matter how much iv learned bout military history i always learn sumthing new frum mr Felton
@Wings_of_foam
@Wings_of_foam Жыл бұрын
This is not Felton lol.
@nickdarr7328
@nickdarr7328 Жыл бұрын
Felton has his own channel but this isn't it. Plus Felton is British and this narrator is not
@PxThucydides
@PxThucydides Жыл бұрын
The battle was recreated in the 1968 movie "Anzio", which starred Robert Mitchum and Peter Falk. In the movie the Rangers are ambushed by tanks the Germans hid in haystacks. A pretty grim story.
@marchellochiovelli7259
@marchellochiovelli7259 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Hollywood always gets it very accurately. That's where I get all of my history lessons from. What a stugatz..
@Yobigsam95
@Yobigsam95 Жыл бұрын
I don’t live too far from carrickfergus in Northern Ireland. There is a monument there to the Rangers. It’s humbling to know many ww2 ranger legends where trained near where I live.
@WhatChaMaCalum
@WhatChaMaCalum Жыл бұрын
Silly hure said North Ireland 😂
@debrathomas1904
@debrathomas1904 Жыл бұрын
The industrial might of the the United States & the American enlisted man won WW 2. Poor leadership decisions by A
@WvlfDarkfire
@WvlfDarkfire Жыл бұрын
Never forget. Even the toughest, most trained, and well equipped, will give their lives for freedom.
@naradaian
@naradaian Жыл бұрын
Jeez - your out of date - Libya has weekly slavery sales, Usa invaded Syria Iraq for oil companies not freedom
@jamesoliva9531
@jamesoliva9531 Жыл бұрын
Brigadier Colonel: Must be a new rank in the US ARMY!
@daviddohman8418
@daviddohman8418 Жыл бұрын
First time ever seeing horse mounted US infantry footage. To what extent did that occur during WW2.
@darkspire6666
@darkspire6666 Жыл бұрын
Joe Medicine Crow stole a horse from an enemy as his last of his tasks to become a war chief, so they were surely used.
@timbrwolf1121
@timbrwolf1121 Жыл бұрын
Much more than people realize actually. So in ww2 the end numbers are what we are used to. Basically every nation on earth was still primarily supplied by pack animal at the beginning of ww2. During the war the US built millions of trucks and basically all of her allies benefited. It's my personal opinion that the humble American truck is what allowed the soviet union to fight back against the Germans.
@sirridesalot6652
@sirridesalot6652 Жыл бұрын
The Ukrainian company, Master Box, makes 1/35 scale figures of WW2 mounted US cavalry.
@johnmontoya5482
@johnmontoya5482 Жыл бұрын
"Say hello to Ford, and General motors, you stupid fascist bastard!" -Band of Brothers.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh Жыл бұрын
Germans had over 250,000 horses at the beginning. They were not as highly mobilised at the Allies thought at the start.
@tonyjedioftheforest1364
@tonyjedioftheforest1364 Жыл бұрын
Excellent educational video, thank you for showing.
@adityakumar4087
@adityakumar4087 Жыл бұрын
This shows that while fighting on two fronts, Germans were still a strong force which cannot be easily put down.
@Group73historians73
@Group73historians73 Жыл бұрын
just saw ANZIO movie , good video as usual
@kvn8907
@kvn8907 Жыл бұрын
Talk about dark docs! I never had any clue that this battle happened!
@francisklambauer144
@francisklambauer144 Жыл бұрын
I knew a 70 yr old "RANGER"-he was a co-bartender at the Hotel we worked at; JIM ANDERSON was a kick-ass old guy I respected and looked up to him! Nerves of steel, didn't take shit and "had your back" -as they say!- GREAT MAN!
@robertbishop5357
@robertbishop5357 Жыл бұрын
I hope Lucas was sacked. Inexcusable what happened under his command.
@davidlee8551
@davidlee8551 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Жыл бұрын
Most wonderful introducing video shared by Dark Docs channel...this secondary operation in Anzeo proved 😀...Italy was not soft balls of Cocktails ( Germany fronts in all sides were hardly frontiers crushed by sever bloodshed....thanks for sharing
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 Жыл бұрын
I would have thought this was about the Falaise pocket, from the title. But hey.
@olic7266
@olic7266 Жыл бұрын
my grandfather was a POW in Italy, glad he was freed because otherwise I wouldn't be here :)
@darrenleahy7877
@darrenleahy7877 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Have you ever thought of doing some about the troubles in Northern Ireland?
@Kyle_919
@Kyle_919 Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about Easter Rising? He could make an entire series with the history there, good idea
@naradaian
@naradaian Жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_919 he says Northern Ireland 1960-1990’s not in ‘southern’ Ireland in 1916.
@monkeydank7842
@monkeydank7842 Жыл бұрын
Let’s hope it stays history…
@darrenleahy7877
@darrenleahy7877 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a little too fresh yet.
@darrenleahy7877
@darrenleahy7877 Жыл бұрын
@Kyle no I was talking about the era of the "Troubles" in northern ireland. Although yes the "uprising" would also make an interesting video. I really like the way the story's on here are told in an almost unbiased way. Great suggestion, thank you. Let's hope they see the comments.
@moss8448
@moss8448 Жыл бұрын
you have to ask why weren't they supported by on call arty? but you know the same thing happened to the Marines in the sense that during WWII being singled out as braver than a regular unit was frowned upon by petty jealousy. War is the mother of invention learning from your mistakes is golden
@BobMuir100
@BobMuir100 Жыл бұрын
How awful!! Why do some leaders not listen and learn? The training will have been first rate! Bob England
@tomkrisel4493
@tomkrisel4493 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they wanted to be politicians when they got home.
@danielgreen3715
@danielgreen3715 Жыл бұрын
Kesselring was a very astute and capable Man who had some excellent Troops under his command and the Landscape favoured Defence!
@marchellochiovelli7259
@marchellochiovelli7259 Жыл бұрын
Right you are.
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone Жыл бұрын
I used to feel proud to be an American until the last 10 years. Seeing how the country is now doesnt seem worth the men that fought back then in ww2. meaning if they could see the country now they would've never fought for this.. It was a a big mistake obviously.
@Geojr815
@Geojr815 Жыл бұрын
You’re crazy we aren’t THAT bad off nowadays. The country is divided but it’s mostly based on silliness and issues blown way out of proportion. When an attack on the nation occurs, everyone comes together
@robertdipaola3447
@robertdipaola3447 Жыл бұрын
​@@Geojr815 I hope your right
@americanpatriot2422
@americanpatriot2422 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@AndreasGassner
@AndreasGassner Жыл бұрын
I think compared to the East front this was a vacation for the German soldiers.
@Military-Museum-LP
@Military-Museum-LP Жыл бұрын
When the word Liberated Italia it makes me think why it’s used? Italia was an axis partner not a occupied country.
@sebastianthurmond498
@sebastianthurmond498 Жыл бұрын
Tf is a Brigadier Colonel? 😂😂
@w.reidripley1968
@w.reidripley1968 Жыл бұрын
A colonel in command of a very overstrength regiment maybe? A brigade can be rather variable, like the strength of a division.
@sebastianthurmond498
@sebastianthurmond498 Жыл бұрын
@@w.reidripley1968 I literally stopped the vid when he said that to google Brigadier Colonel. No dice, no historical record of that usage did I find. Sure he meant Brigadier General, but some how it got through editing. 🤷🏻‍♂️😂
@darrengilbert7438
@darrengilbert7438 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianthurmond498 nope, Darby was a Lieutenant Colonel at this point.
@w.reidripley1968
@w.reidripley1968 Жыл бұрын
@@darrengilbert7438 So, total script FUBAR, then. It'd hardly be a Dark channel segment without one. Their history seems better than their copy editing. _Cum grano et cetera._ [Copy-edit? The Autocorrect just tried to have it "Cum granola..." Jesus Hexametrous Christ.]
@mgunny05
@mgunny05 Жыл бұрын
ANOTHER superbly done video on a battle/operation I had not heard before….or read the book/books that are out there!
@maverick4177
@maverick4177 Жыл бұрын
Standard American gung Ho tactics
@adamsteele6148
@adamsteele6148 Жыл бұрын
Predictable
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
It is good to remember that many of the German troops that surrounded Cisterna and Anzio-Nettuno came from the retreat from Monte Cassino much thanks to General Clarke that preferred to rush to Rome instead of obeying general Alexander directive with the consequences further great losses of Allied troops and civilians not to mention irreplaceable destruction of medieval churches and in particular Pisa. The other guy was general Major General John Porter Lucas failed to seize the opportunity permitting to have his beachhead to be surrounded by 8 divisions prompting Churchill that was angry and furious, bewildered by the slow reactions of the American commander to state: "I had hoped we were hurling a wildcat onto the shore, but all we got was a beached whale." With generals like them they can really stay home! I know very this area and Cisterna is just a really ugly town and is surrounded here and there by creators made by heavy calibre navy shells...
@andysheepleton
@andysheepleton Жыл бұрын
Well said. Clarke's plan was incredibly risky to start with, but General Lucas was criminally incompetent in his execution of the plan that he knew full well was predicated upon speed. He should have either refused the order or executed the plan with the speed that was needed, what he did was worse than either of those choices. He obeyed with such willful incompetence that failure was guaranteed. Eisenhower promoting him was pure nepotism. Liberating Rome was just a giant pissing contest and grabbing glory was given precedence over winning the war with the fewest casualties possible.
@codystout5353
@codystout5353 Жыл бұрын
Patton slapping that soldier probably helped the allies in the war. It helped them create a diversion
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn Жыл бұрын
Had he not slapped the soldier and had a BIG role in the invasion of mainland Italy, it's likely that the invasion would have gone off a LOT better. The disasters discussed in this video likely would not have happened because Patton was a decisive leader with sound judgment.
@howieb3344
@howieb3344 Жыл бұрын
Should've had Patton running this, but he slapped somebody and got disciplined. Just a poor decision in leaders.
@jeremywells9019
@jeremywells9019 Жыл бұрын
Patton was a doofus who didn't care about his Soldiers.
@intellik56
@intellik56 Жыл бұрын
George I’ll slap the ptsd out you patton 😂
@Vexfer
@Vexfer Жыл бұрын
@@jeremywells9019 where in the hell did you get that information?
@davidkinsey8657
@davidkinsey8657 Жыл бұрын
Patton was actually preparing to command FUSAG, the fictitious First US Army Group. His posting as the commander of this phantom army helped to convince the Germans that the Normandy invasion was just a diversion. They considered Patton as the best allied general and could not conceive of a general being disciplined for slapping a soldier.
@guesstime6445
@guesstime6445 Жыл бұрын
The man slapped a soldier because he had no wounds yet couldn't fight. That soldier had Shell Shock.
@jugbywellington1134
@jugbywellington1134 Жыл бұрын
What a horrendous story. All those good Americans lost. Nothing wrong with their courage.
@sonyascott6114
@sonyascott6114 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much DARK DOCS for this video.I always wondered what happened to those guys.What prison camp were they sent to,does anyone know?
@michaelbinder4108
@michaelbinder4108 Жыл бұрын
My great uncle Jack, 1st Ranger Battalion, was captured at Cisterna. Not sure which camp he ended up in but I know it was in Germany. My most vivid memory was when he spoke of being kept in the colloseum in Rome for a few days and the Italian people would spit on them and pelt them with stones..
@michaelbinder4108
@michaelbinder4108 Жыл бұрын
Stalag 7A Moosberg Bavaria according to records I found.
@pritish47
@pritish47 Жыл бұрын
It's not easy for a soldier to surrender to the enemy, yet you can see faint smiles on some surrendering soldiers. That's enough to explain what a relief it is to not be a part of war anymore....war is not pretty and yet, it has to be fought.
@robbpowell194
@robbpowell194 Жыл бұрын
My uncle was injured just before this and removed from the front.
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 Жыл бұрын
The quickest and most effective way to defeat your enemy is to cut off their communications. While the Germans weren't responsible for the communication loss here, the loss early on was a major reason for the defeat of the Rangers in the end.
@davidbryden7904
@davidbryden7904 Жыл бұрын
It's kinda remarkable how often the Allies got away with opening another front. 🤷‍♂️
@franktreppiedi2208
@franktreppiedi2208 Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to Lucas? He should've been relieved of command, court martialled and sent to prison.
@zebradun7407
@zebradun7407 Жыл бұрын
Murphy's rules of combat Number 132, If your attack is going to well it is an ambush.
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was called 666.
@SMDoktorPepper
@SMDoktorPepper Жыл бұрын
The SAS also faced similar action. Troops trained as special ops used as frontline troops is a waste
@mha43054
@mha43054 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe that you fail to mention the FSSF!
@TheArizonaRanger.
@TheArizonaRanger. 8 ай бұрын
I don't think it was necessarily a trap, as much as it was failed foresight from higher command. The situation in Italy was a stalemate at that point and in classic fashion (although the line not famously said yet) the plan was for the Rangers to lead the way. That they did, with a successful deep penetration behind enemy lines. The problem with it, is the with deep penetration comes follow on and relief forces which were not provided to the Rangers.
@0Zolrender0
@0Zolrender0 Жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd wrote and sang a song about Anzio called "When the Tigers Broke Free". I was about Walters father who was there and lost his life.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh Жыл бұрын
Yep, short and sharp, straight to the point. So many sons lost their fathers due to inept commanders.
@alexlittle5237
@alexlittle5237 Жыл бұрын
I like the random clips. Also Brigadier Colonel??? wtf
@aragos32727
@aragos32727 Жыл бұрын
I want to say that in modern times, commanders listening to good Intel has changed. But it hasn't.
@rdgk1se3019
@rdgk1se3019 Жыл бұрын
My great uncle served as a cook and medic in the U.S. 5th Army during WW2.........they defeated Rommel in north Africa and marched on Rome.
@christiancartne1635
@christiancartne1635 Жыл бұрын
With carrots?
@adventussaxonum448
@adventussaxonum448 Жыл бұрын
As a Brit, can I say thanks for "defeating" Rommel .....
@joeschlotthauer840
@joeschlotthauer840 Жыл бұрын
8:50, "Darby's Rangers"
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 Жыл бұрын
Darby was a damn fool........two of my uncles fought there against overwhelming odds. Both we injured and decorated but at what cost to their comrades?
@festiklak6678
@festiklak6678 Жыл бұрын
What is the music called that starts at 11:55?
@LarryPeteet
@LarryPeteet Жыл бұрын
Very Sad for the brave Rangers!!
@MothaLuva
@MothaLuva Жыл бұрын
How Operation Shingle turned into Operation Shambles.
@spacehonky6315
@spacehonky6315 Жыл бұрын
The Rangers were sent to fight tanks with knives and pop guns. It didn't work out? Weird.
@leondillon8723
@leondillon8723 Жыл бұрын
2:56)The Rangers trained in Occupied Ireland. 8:51)What army has Brigadier Colonels? Not the US Army. When the ETO part of WW II ended, parts of North Italy were still under German control.
@atakorkut5110
@atakorkut5110 Жыл бұрын
How funny would it be if an alternate reality we were talking about how Patton was given this command instead of the phantom army command, and he disregarded the Polish deserter and got his ass whooped all up and down. Lol.
@KC-bg1th
@KC-bg1th Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, my nonno ‘fought’ in Sicily. All he did was March all over Europe as they didn’t have good logistics; he eventually was injured by shrapnel in an allied bombing run. He said the only thing he learned from the war was how to smoke and hit on nurses. My family unfortunately fled Italy in the 60s because even though he lived in small town (1700 people, valley/mountainous) the mafia presence exploded with Mussolini. Mussolini was rightfully hated, but the new people extorting you were your neighbours and own family.
@Eugeneinrome
@Eugeneinrome Жыл бұрын
Anzio isn't in Northern Italy!!
@stevejones9062
@stevejones9062 Жыл бұрын
Standard military tactic, train the men but not the command . Senior officers had no idea what to do with these men .
@keatonburton5636
@keatonburton5636 Жыл бұрын
John P. Lucas was like a skunk; he stank.
@landonpotts6815
@landonpotts6815 Жыл бұрын
Nice.
@benlotus2703
@benlotus2703 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating 10/10
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 Жыл бұрын
As a Canadian Soldier in Italy - My Dad often told me that "If we'd had ONE more American Officer, we'd have LOST the Fucking war!"
@briancooper2112
@briancooper2112 Жыл бұрын
Seriously
@briancooper2112
@briancooper2112 Жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for the US u guys would be speaking Japanese German.
@adamsteele6148
@adamsteele6148 Жыл бұрын
@@briancooper2112 in the European theater Canadians did all your fuckin dirty work and were used as fodder for you. Oh and you were late to both world wars.
@gdubya83
@gdubya83 Жыл бұрын
@@briancooper2112 Sounds hard to believe and full of $#!+. 9th ESB and 2d CEB. Semper Fi
@74pups
@74pups Жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, he doesn't speak for for me,
@SnoopReddogg
@SnoopReddogg Жыл бұрын
Did the poor old Italians ever have the will to fight???
@kurtcoolson9054
@kurtcoolson9054 Жыл бұрын
Sure. Sometimes they did (Italian marines and some of their remaining airforce bombers did take part in battles against the allies at Anzio) but it doesn't fit the narrative. If you want to get an Italian perspective, check some of Felton's stories on his channel.
@williamschlenger1518
@williamschlenger1518 Жыл бұрын
Didn't they think the Germans were tough? The Italian campaign was almost a disaster.
@duanepigden1337
@duanepigden1337 Жыл бұрын
Weren’t the Devils Brigade at Anzio also.
@MrEsMysteriesMagicks
@MrEsMysteriesMagicks Жыл бұрын
What the hell is a brigadier colonel? There's no such thing. William Darby was a full colonel at the time of this battle. He was posthumously promoted to a brigadier general. Orlando was his middle name.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 Жыл бұрын
Haha, I missed that, thanks for picking it up.
@-htl-
@-htl- Жыл бұрын
I understood it was not Churcil his idea however Eisenhower who kept the landing vessels that otherwise would had gone to overlord and the Pacific...
@robr2389
@robr2389 Жыл бұрын
Tough, brutal time.
@KrieserTheGerman
@KrieserTheGerman Жыл бұрын
Treat every threat as if it’s real is the moral of the story here. As law enforcement, everyone is criminally profiled until proven otherwise.I hate when people just blow things off as if it’s nothing. This is the real world not some fantasy that you won’t die in your world.
@jjahsepuyeshd
@jjahsepuyeshd Жыл бұрын
Darbys Rangers...................................
@mauriceouellette7514
@mauriceouellette7514 Жыл бұрын
Bonjour a tous du Canada First raid of Ranger unit,happenned in Abenakis tribe at Odanak reservation 1799 (Im not sure) it's close to Saint François du Lac province Du Québec Canada,today it's possible to see bullett impact on the church reservation .
@ronsmith2490
@ronsmith2490 Жыл бұрын
Maybe have a few more expressos
@grahamwood333
@grahamwood333 Жыл бұрын
Weren't US Ranger forces used at D Day
@randallwong7196
@randallwong7196 Жыл бұрын
Does this sort of claim the Ranger offensive was an amphibious landing? Am I hearing the wording correctly? They were already on land when it happened.
@andrewlancefield3730
@andrewlancefield3730 Жыл бұрын
These were not just Rangers but British Guards and commandos
@Eugeneinrome
@Eugeneinrome Жыл бұрын
Heaven forbid I thought it was only the Americans that fought in the Second World War!
@marktwain2053
@marktwain2053 Жыл бұрын
Commanders using ego instead of good sense, utilizing soldiers in a manner inconsistent with their training...what could possibly go wrong!
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын
BLAME THE AMERICAN GENERAL NOT BRITISH TRAINING!!
@JB-rt4mx
@JB-rt4mx Жыл бұрын
Fallschirmjager...Green Devils !!
@marchellochiovelli7259
@marchellochiovelli7259 Жыл бұрын
You want it. Come get it. It will cost you dearly.
@aqueousone
@aqueousone Жыл бұрын
Cannon fodder to the front! ….CHARGE!!!!
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