The Most Disappointing Nation in Football History

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Footy Frontier

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@louisjwiese5515
@louisjwiese5515 21 күн бұрын
A brilliant team does not necessarily necessitate brilliant players. You just need players that are good enough, but can fit together into a cohesive unit that works in a highly effective manner together.
@NeilLewis77
@NeilLewis77 20 күн бұрын
yet all the brilliant teams have brilliant players. not a single succesful international team has achieved anything without super stars except for that one greek team for 6 games. every single one of the past 22 world cup winning teams have had super stars.
@SouthamptonCentral
@SouthamptonCentral 20 күн бұрын
I think England had that in 2021 and 2022. Just got a bit unlucky in the end
@damirvujevic2685
@damirvujevic2685 19 күн бұрын
@@NeilLewis77 Italy 2020. Germany 2014. Croatians '98, 2018., 2022., (2023.) no superstars.
@michaelola1621
@michaelola1621 19 күн бұрын
​@@damirvujevic2685 I definitely do not agree with those picks there. Germany 2014 was one of the strongest and dominant team out there with players that one the champions league and played for elite teams. Croatia 2018 had superstars as modric, kovaicic and perisic to name a few. And italy you could say that most of the well know player where past their prime. But there weren't many players who could say are superstar. But to put germany 2014 in there is criminal
@Skibidisigmaking2429m
@Skibidisigmaking2429m 19 күн бұрын
​@@damirvujevic2685all of the countries you mentioned had superstars
@lorenzoFCIM1908
@lorenzoFCIM1908 21 күн бұрын
The problem with England, is that they've always over hyped their players, only for them not to perform to thee high expectations they set for them.
@hessen5498
@hessen5498 21 күн бұрын
Thats Not the Problem in the slightest. Just a myth
@lorenzoFCIM1908
@lorenzoFCIM1908 21 күн бұрын
@hessen5498 yes it is, the premier league is not the best league in the world, just a high spending league
@hessen5498
@hessen5498 21 күн бұрын
@@lorenzoFCIM1908 Its by far the most competitive and talented League in the world
@Emzy2217
@Emzy2217 20 күн бұрын
@@hessen5498talented? Yes. Competitive? Hell no.
@doncarloancelotti2256
@doncarloancelotti2256 20 күн бұрын
​@@hessen5498 yes, thanks to foreign export 😂
@adammac4960
@adammac4960 21 күн бұрын
I think the problem with England is the media and the expectation. I don’t think any other team in the world gets as much pressure from the fans and media as the England players. Like Sven said. In Italy he was judged only by his football. In England your life gets torn apart both private and professional. Like what the f*ck has affairs got to do with football? Too much political bullsh*t for a team that hasn’t won a trophy since 1966.
@bonfacemarube6196
@bonfacemarube6196 21 күн бұрын
I couldnt agree more.
@mariusciolacu9820
@mariusciolacu9820 18 күн бұрын
True, the media in England is cancerous. For players and morale especially. But, strangely, it's also one of the reasons for why the Prem is doing so good (as in, number of views, etc). So yeah, it's a strange one...
@MrKrewie
@MrKrewie 18 күн бұрын
They absolutely crucified Beckham for that red card
@adammac4960
@adammac4960 18 күн бұрын
@@MrKrewie yes I know and let’s be honest they were not good enough to win that tournament. Not with the way Brazil and France were playing. What the fans did to beckham was disgusting.
@MrKrewie
@MrKrewie 17 күн бұрын
@@adammac4960 yeah that brazil squad was like activating cheats in a video game, absolutely insane squad
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
Only because England had a brilliant team on Paper in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2010, it doesn’t mean it’s all going to come together.
@jrothweldo7
@jrothweldo7 20 күн бұрын
You could of told us this 20 years ago
@abdullahmuizzudinselamat8406
@abdullahmuizzudinselamat8406 17 күн бұрын
​@@jrothweldo7 you could've just figured it out yourself
@ceoofmanwha3279
@ceoofmanwha3279 17 күн бұрын
blud it's simple figure it out yourself ​@@jrothweldo7
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the thumbs up.
@jrothweldo7
@jrothweldo7 16 күн бұрын
@@abdullahmuizzudinselamat8406 idiot
@Sparkledash1
@Sparkledash1 20 күн бұрын
As a german, i am always fascinated by Englands wish to get into a tournament, thinking that its their god given right to win the big one, because all their players play in the best league, meaning they are all automatically world class players. Germany for example never won trophies because their team was full of world class players (with a few exceptions) but because of their team mentality. The team of 1996 was a good example. We had constant injury issues, but we still managed to win it, because of our unity and will to fight. There are no egos in the team.
@SouthamptonCentral
@SouthamptonCentral 20 күн бұрын
This is such a strange myth. We don’t think that we have a god given right and most of the time we are just supporting are team and often we have a good chance of winning and deserve to be among the favourites. Every fan talks with bais and hope about their own nation. But it’s coming home is not some arrogant statement of superiority that is supposed to be taken seriously.
@mariusciolacu9820
@mariusciolacu9820 18 күн бұрын
​@@SouthamptonCentraltake it from a foreigner living in the UK: it totally was arrogance. Now the english play it like it was just a joke, but if they would've won it, suddenly, not a joke anymore. And yes, other teams have biases too, but none as big as the english. Their supporters are hated all over the world exactly for that arrogance and disregard for other people's cultures and fans. And when you get called out: "it's just jokes, mate". It's not coming out of the blue. The hate is well-deserved.
@JamesCM86
@JamesCM86 17 күн бұрын
God given right ?? What an earth are you talking about? Perception is not reality, and no English player has ever talked about a ‘god given right’. Think
@turtle27835
@turtle27835 17 күн бұрын
Why do all Europeans have these weird delusions about English people. We're probably the most pessimistic fans on the planet, we don't ever expect to win anything. The whole its coming home chant is just a joke at this point. Its like when the Euro's was happening, on the euros reddit page under every single post about the English team, most of the comments were about how arrogant English fans are. Even though about 99% of the English comments were being very positive and complimenting the other teams. The Germans and Scottish were 10x worse then the English but they don't get anything said about them. Also i don't get that point of "they play in the best league so they automatically world class". Our team is world class, on paper, we arguably have the best team in the world. Our players do not work together and they never have. We've always been held back by terrible management or players not being able to put their club rivalries aside.
@sieteocho
@sieteocho 17 күн бұрын
In other words, when Germany has high expectations going into a tournament it's because they just have a better team mentality than everybody else. When England has high expectations going into a tournament, it's because they think it is their god given right to win the big one.
@cheech7900
@cheech7900 19 күн бұрын
Its not a curse, we just weren’t good enough, either, tactically or with ability. The last English coach to win a top flight league title in England, was Howard Wilkinson in the 1991- 1992 season with Leeds United, The Premier League will be 33 years old at the end of this season and no English manager has ever won that title. Kevin Keegan was the closest.
@sr3821
@sr3821 9 күн бұрын
England had Fabio Capello, one of the greatest managers at his time. Somehow they still managed to screw it.
@chr1225
@chr1225 8 күн бұрын
@@sr3821 and they had Sven Göran Eriksson, also won nothing...ok, it were mostly losses on penalties against Portugal 2004 and 2006.
@weekendwarriorprospecting817
@weekendwarriorprospecting817 3 күн бұрын
The biggest disgrace is never employing Brian Clough. The goat 🐐 of football management 💯
@cheech7900
@cheech7900 3 күн бұрын
@ Clough and Taylor, were the goat, together, something incredible but individually, they never scaled the same heights as together. Clough never got the England job because 1st interview, he was up against Don Revie, considered the greatest English manager at the time, he took the England job of the back of leading, Leeds to the title. Then Clough took his place at Leeds. Under Revie, England failed to qualify for the 78 World Cup and Don Revie jumped ship for more money at the Saudi National Side, very controversial at the time, at a time England looked to step away from controversy, Cloughie was never of the Telly. Controversial opinions were his bread and butter, so Ron Greenwood got it, highly respected, developed many members of the 66 World Cup winning squad and knew how to play the FAs politics. A steady hand, so to speak and by the time, Bobby Robson got the job, Robson was the rising star, with 2, consecutive 2nd place finishes to Bob Paisleys Liverpool and Clough, seen as the past. Sad but true, Clough should have been given the job after Revie quit but if he had, he’d never have won the league with Forest snd lifted the European cup in consecutive seasons. Its a Catch 22, he’s the goat because he a achieved that, if he’d got the England job at the height of his pomp, his greatest achievement as a manager, would have never occurred.
@tomrom-u1g
@tomrom-u1g 17 күн бұрын
Overhyping their own players is the greatest mistake
@joshuabrown2134
@joshuabrown2134 15 күн бұрын
thank you... like wtf is a golden generation... and in the first 10 seconds he says or were the other teams just better... precisely. saved me the whole video.. i just came to comment.. but yt brits just think theyre gods gift to the planet.. this is why the world used to hate britian and now theyre starting to get on our nerves again in the states especially now that they wanna act like they created rap music...
@Insideman666
@Insideman666 5 күн бұрын
@@joshuabrown2134 it’s okay they’ll never win anything because even though in their arrogance they claim to have “invented football” they are simply not good at it so just enjoy watching their people arrogantly claim viciously from the start and the flopping miserably. Like the faces of English fans after every single tournament is priceless, as an Italian especially i crack a smile every time you hear them say “it’s coming home” cuz that pretty much guarantees they will get embarrassed 😂 its every single time ! I love it 🤣🤣
@fernandovargas5338
@fernandovargas5338 5 күн бұрын
Exactly, the way they talked about Bellingham, Foden, and Saka as if they are all the best players anyone has seen, is a clear indication to overhyping. None of those is top 3 in the world in their position
@J725_6
@J725_6 4 күн бұрын
A golden generation has to prove their talent. A perfect example of a golden generation is Spain 2008-2012.
@eriklakeland3857
@eriklakeland3857 2 күн бұрын
@@fernandovargas5338especially Foden. My grandad could notch double digit goal involvements on some of those Man City teams.
@PODTIER
@PODTIER 20 күн бұрын
Joe Cole had the best take. Patterns of play. It's mostly been individual brilliance with rare sightings of team fluidity that leads to chances. They don't need a star at every position, they need the right fit at every position.
@LeoDragon34
@LeoDragon34 18 күн бұрын
It’s not a curse, it’s a combination of over-expectation by the media and the inability of the players to handle the pressure, for whatever reason(s).
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
It was looking good in Euro 2004 for England but we still couldn’t beat the big teams we lost 2-1 against France in the group stage. A game we should have won!!
@xzl2284
@xzl2284 16 күн бұрын
England is the perfect example of the saying "They are not a good team, they're just 11 good players playing together". Idk who said it but it's true
@ultralightpablo
@ultralightpablo 4 күн бұрын
and sometimes all 11 of them aren’t even that good
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
It’s shame Scholes Retired after Euro 2004 we needed him in 2006 and we missed him.
@Marta1Buck
@Marta1Buck 19 күн бұрын
Maybe he thought "hmm .. lampard and Gerard, they'll be fine" then retire
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 18 күн бұрын
@@Marta1Buck yes
@Ping-r6j
@Ping-r6j 12 күн бұрын
His presence could have made a difference?
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 12 күн бұрын
@Ping-r6j Yes it could off.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 12 күн бұрын
@Ping-r6j Problem is Sven Goran Erickson propably wouldn't of been prepared to drop Lampard. He would want to get them all in.
@FazalRezzam
@FazalRezzam 20 күн бұрын
The problem is the people In the background, some players pass their peek (Harry kane) and still start every game, Palmer form was next level all season and he's on the bench, England need to be more fair to their players regardless of their colour belief or political view. It does not surprise me that they choose week managers that are easy to control.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 16 күн бұрын
the FA does the selection, and the FA is half non-football- marketing, diversity champions, data analysts, image consultants, dubious "advisors" , people who consult media pundits for advice and commentators who go on and on about nothing football related like where the manager should come from.
@minidragonito
@minidragonito 15 күн бұрын
Harry kane just became better in bundes He is more on his prime than ever
@FazalRezzam
@FazalRezzam 15 күн бұрын
@minidragonito haha yeah his penalties are good. The euros have past now too.
@minidragonito
@minidragonito 15 күн бұрын
@@FazalRezzam penalties are part of the game unless you want he miss them Rn he got 85 g/a in 63 matches for bayern
@FazalRezzam
@FazalRezzam 15 күн бұрын
@minidragonito did i say he was bad at penalties lol
@philipjohn1254
@philipjohn1254 21 күн бұрын
I will always say that Euro 2004 was the one that got away for that generation. So many what ifs in the Portugal QF - what if Rooney had not gone off injured, what if Campbell's late goal had counted, what if Beckham had scored his penalty.
@johnthompson457
@johnthompson457 21 күн бұрын
Agreed. Although in euro 96 they were Gazza’s stud away from being immortal.
@Li8mBenz
@Li8mBenz 20 күн бұрын
Did Campbell score a late goal in this one? He scored a golden goal against Argentina in 98 but it was disallowed
@philipjohn1254
@philipjohn1254 20 күн бұрын
@@Li8mBenz the same happened here, though it was in normal time. Ref ruled he obstructed Ricardo when he jumped.
@Li8mBenz
@Li8mBenz 20 күн бұрын
@@philipjohn1254 he had some bad luck then
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 20 күн бұрын
@@johnthompson457 which was also undeserved because they should've gone out vs Spain
@Trending_News_Kenya
@Trending_News_Kenya 21 күн бұрын
Tuchel could actually be the man to win a trophy for England. See, winning trophies, which are played for in around 5 games, does not require you to have a golden generation. It just needs a cohesive team packed with players with strong mindsets. and, of course, who are willing to go to the mad with opponents when need be. and who is better to inculcate that, other than Tuchel? I believe that is how Argentina won the 2022 worlcup. And actually, that is how italy won euros vs. a far better england team than they were back in 2020.
@Dee-jd8vc
@Dee-jd8vc 21 күн бұрын
Yeah. Argentina doesn't have that many superstar player. They also lost many important matches on penalties. But the team right now are hungry for a win, have high fighting spirit, a cohesive team, and a good goalkeeper on penalties. England need to work on that mindset for the future.
@revolusimelayu
@revolusimelayu 21 күн бұрын
Tuchel can win FA cup for England 😂
@NkosanaMakhubele
@NkosanaMakhubele 20 күн бұрын
​@@Dee-jd8vc I'm rooting for them and I'm not English😂
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 20 күн бұрын
but that's the thing, WERE they far batter? Italy had the best goalkeeper, Italy had the two best defenders, Italy had the best midfielder in Verratti and Barella. The only thing England had was Harry Kane.
@yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld 20 күн бұрын
@@Al-ji4gdengland had the better team but a garbage manager
@prashantkhadka5085
@prashantkhadka5085 21 күн бұрын
England's every player is over hyped Starting from Beckham They should have signed for Hollywood or compete in some fashion contest
@jondickinson2864
@jondickinson2864 20 күн бұрын
Beckham looked like a Bellend but his range of passing was second to non
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 20 күн бұрын
@@jondickinson2864 And that's about it. IN every other category he was decent at best.
@liamthomas-fn7fc
@liamthomas-fn7fc 4 күн бұрын
Beckham was actually good though Madrid signed him for £25 million in 2003.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
We lost against Portugal in Euro 2004 another strong team top quality players and they had a strong defence. We cant deal with it.
@businesssecretsofthepharao8901
@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 20 күн бұрын
We had a perfectly good goal disallowed and had an on fire Rooney taken off injured.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 16 күн бұрын
@@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 yes very True about the Campbell goal and Rooney being on fire.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 16 күн бұрын
@@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 That Referee is still saying he made the right decision disallowing the goal.
@HecticPortugal
@HecticPortugal 8 күн бұрын
@@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 Thanks Rooney 😉
@prasannabalaji1886
@prasannabalaji1886 21 күн бұрын
Overlooking carrick was the biggest mistake, system over stars
@behindthesmile1276
@behindthesmile1276 21 күн бұрын
So true
@Kuromori-v9z
@Kuromori-v9z 21 күн бұрын
Before Carrick, it was Scholes, and before Scholes, it was Le Tissier.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
Yes it was I agree.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 20 күн бұрын
So overrated.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
@Al-ji4gd Carrick wasn't overrated.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
Portugal were the better team after Rooney Went off injured on 24 minutes. Rooney was the stand out player the focus player in attack who made things happen scored goals had great pace and skill and vision. We couldn’t build on the Momentum after Rooney went off injured we missed him badly. Sol Campbell disallowed goal though that shouldn’t of been disallowed!
@JoePubliktv
@JoePubliktv 20 күн бұрын
We. Always. Bottle it. The fans. The players. We were 1-0 up against Italy, at Wembley, in the final, 2020 euros, and you could hear a pin drop. We should have been rocking that stadium!!!! Just enjoy the occasion and support your team. Fuck the expectations
@businesssecretsofthepharao8901
@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 19 күн бұрын
What are you on about it was rocking? Was just bad tactics that let us down.
@JoePubliktv
@JoePubliktv 19 күн бұрын
watch it again! When Italy started getting back into the game we went silent
@bangrojai
@bangrojai 11 күн бұрын
Euro 2020 was the biggest chance England would win something. Too bad, Italy got all the mentality to win it. The Sampdoria golden generation desperately wantes to wipe their horror of Wembley. The players didnt fail their managerial team.
@lwandomadikizela2213
@lwandomadikizela2213 20 күн бұрын
The problems for England failing in major tournaments is player profiles, tactics and coaches. The Golden Generation from 2002-2008 had world class players from every position but the problem was to implement the right system to get the best out of them. Gerrard and Lampard couldn't play together since they were similar players and Sven(RIP) didn't start Barry or Carrick to complement Lampard or Gerrard. 2008 is when the Golden Generation ended when England failed to qualify for Euro 2008. The Rock Bottom Generation started between 2010 and 2016 when England became the laughing stock. Barely made it out the group stage in South Africa only to get smashed by the Germans albeit Lampard's goal should have stood. Euro 2012 lost on penalties again to eventual runner up Italy. World Cup 2014 England finished dead last in the group stage after failing to win a single match. Euro 2016 England achieved true rock bottom with unconvincing performances in the group stages and that horror show against Iceland with Kane taking corners and Rooney being passed his best. Hodgson was the worst coach to lead England to glory and it showed. The Renaissance Generation came when Southgate installed belief in the players and nation with deep runs in major tournaments. 2018 they made the semi finals but lost out to Croatia. Euro 2020 it should have never went to penalties in the final and I blame Southgate for throwing Sancho, Rashford and Saka under the bus for missing their spot kicks. Southgate proved he was never the guy to win the big prizes and World Cup 2022 England lost out to then World Champions France in the quarter finals. Amid reaching the final in Euro 2024, England were unconvincing in all their games and they had close calls against Slovakia and Switzerland but in the end lost to the current European Champions Spain in a convincing manner amid Palmer equalizing. Now England has a proven winner in Tuchel but can he deliver the titles England craved for since 1966? England has yet to win the Euros and England has never reached a World Cup final since they won it. Can World Cup 2026 be that year England shock the world? Time will tell.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
England were amazing against the Dutch in Euro 96 what a great performance!
@sagnikdey4880
@sagnikdey4880 21 күн бұрын
Very well explained!!
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
Great Video Thanks.
@L1STERINE
@L1STERINE 19 күн бұрын
Southgate bought hope back into English football. I remember watching the 2006 world cup with my dad and it felt so gutting to see us go out. Every tournament after that was torture watching us lose. Southgate arrives and we are consistently reaching semi's/finals. I get his playstyle wasn't for everyone (AKA leaving it to the latest possible moment) but the feelings and emotions from those last games of winning the shootouts, getting to the semi's/finals I think all england needed to realise we CAN do it.
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks 15 күн бұрын
I'm not from the UK. As an outsider, it seems the English media and many of the fans are full of festering hate for the England men's team, the individual players, and the manager. It's almost at the point where I wonder how they would react if England does win a major tournament. The amount of abuse Southgate got was ridiculous and sickening. It's not only the media either. Look up the subReddit "three lions" during Euro 2024. I can't imagine why any Englishman would want the job of managing the team. And I understand now why Musiala chose to play for Germany - although England is having its best years in 60 years whereas Germany is having its worst spell since 1940s. Very glad to meet an England fan who appreciates Southgate. 🤝
@RyanMK666
@RyanMK666 Күн бұрын
The golden generation cared more about club football then their country, and a lot of people (fans) also agreed with that during that generation.
@CHPH-bDL
@CHPH-bDL 18 күн бұрын
Getting knocked out by any generation of German national team(they have four complete sets of World Cup medals), Brazil with Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho, Portugal's "golden generation" twice, Croatia with players like Modrić and Rakitić, Italy as 4x World Champion; it's not that awful. Somebody had to win those games.
@itsabanglan
@itsabanglan 20 күн бұрын
Euro 2020 was really the one that got away. Playing at home and losing it on penalties was mighty close.
@sieteocho
@sieteocho 17 күн бұрын
It's just really bad luck to be losing tournaments like that. England were knocked out in 1996 by Germany because of bad luck. They could have gone on to final but then it would still be a matter of beating the Czechs. Similarly, the knockout in 2004 by Portugal was bad luck, reaching 2 finals in 2020 and 2024 and losing both were also bad luck. But they should take heart from Germany, who came close in 2006, 2008, 2010 and 2012 before winning the World Cup in 2014.
@minidragonito
@minidragonito 15 күн бұрын
Euro 2020 was unfair asf and despite being the most favorised team of the tournament you still managed to lose Blaming luck is easy if you would have win in regular time you wouldnt been victimized yourselves as unlucky
@oKnuTo
@oKnuTo 9 күн бұрын
that tournament so heavily stacked in England favor. Not only ´playing at home, but all the other teams constantly traveling across Europe. While England just chilled in london von 90% of the tournament
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
We didn’t play good possession football we didn’t play as a team. We couldn’t keep the ball for very long always loosing it. Losing it in the final 3rd to often. We keep the ball for a bit but we didn’t do anything with it. We didn’t create anything we didn’t create any chances opportunity’s. We found it hard to break teams down.
@andrewpaton2683
@andrewpaton2683 Күн бұрын
Never had the right manager.
@leonardofabbri7930
@leonardofabbri7930 16 күн бұрын
A midfield with Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard and Beckham would be elite in any possible era of the sport.
@retrojoes9610
@retrojoes9610 17 күн бұрын
The hate that Gareth Southgate got was completely uncalled for. People would rather see an England manager fail than succeed in reality...whatever manager we've had the media and the fans find a way to not support them
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks 15 күн бұрын
I agree completely! The English media is beyond toxic and many of the fans are the same. It seriously seems like they are happiest to tear apart the team, individual players and the manager. England won their group in euro 2024 and it was nothing but complaints that the victories weren't "good enough" or were "boring." Same thing on Reddit which seems to be the fans only. Absolutely dreadful.
@yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld 14 күн бұрын
⁠@@dronesclubhighjinksor that people criticize southgate for relying on denmark not scoring vs serbia to top the group when winning their own match vs slovenia would’ve meant they topped the group no matter what denmark did. They call southgate a terrible manager because he always relies on being lucky with gift draws and individual brilliance from players instead of being good at management, and his terrible tactics cost england the euros final vs a mediocre italy side that couldn’t qualify for the next wc
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks 12 күн бұрын
@@yoshiwoollyworld thank you for explaining! Just wondering though, how did Southgate manage to get 4 consecutive lucky draws? WC 2018, Euro 2020, WC 2022, Euro 2024. Also, did he say his strategy was “I hope that Denmark does not score against Serbia.” Wait … That reminds me - the American coach in Copa América 2024, in the last match of the group stage, was accused of waiting to find out the score of the other match instead of insisting his players score some goals. His critics based this on him signalling that the team - that they needed to win the other game so US would advance out of the group - had just scored. So I don’t know if it’s true or not but maybe this is more of a widespread tactic than I have been aware of lol The US did not make it out of the group stage, the coach lost his job, and has been replaced by Mauricio Pochettino. Italy not qualifying for the 2022 World Cup was also very bizarre.
@yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld 12 күн бұрын
@@dronesclubhighjinks he might’ve not explicitly played for a draw and hope denmark failed to beat serbia, he just plays for a draw more than a victory and is more satisfied with 0-0 than winning 7-1 because you don’t concede any goals or if trailing 1-0 he would rather try to park the bus and concede no future goals than go on the attack and win 3-2. He also was at risk of Slovenia going on the attack and beating england which would’ve made them finish second and play germany in the round of 16 and should consider lucky that slovenia also played for a draw instead of going out to attack. In 2018 wc southgate lost to Belgium which made them finish second and go through the knockout stage where they played Colombia and Sweden while Belgium got Japan and Brazil In euro 2020 southgate would’ve faced France in round of 16 instead of a mediocre german side if either Portugal beat them or Germany beat Hungary. He also would’ve faced Spain in quarterfinals if either they beat Poland or Sweden instead of drawing vs both, or Poland avoided defeat to Sweden. In 2022 wc southgate didn’t get lucky with the draw and went out to France in quarterfinals. In euro 2024 if France lost to Netherlands instead of the dutch having a goal disallowed in a 0-0 draw, France would’ve finished third in the group. And if Belgium had beaten Ukraine instead of playing another goalless draw, they would’ve won the group. If both happened Belgium would still get France in round of 16 but the winner would play Southgate in the semifinals
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks 8 күн бұрын
@@yoshiwoollyworld thank you for taking the time to explain it all to me! Hope Tuchel works out better for you guys!
@zacharywerner5745
@zacharywerner5745 18 күн бұрын
great video !
@leonpaul9443
@leonpaul9443 19 күн бұрын
I think as an Englishman our failure has been the expectation that our high octane physical 100 mph style would work at international level.
@Souru_TV
@Souru_TV 20 күн бұрын
Ya know as a german, if england actually won anything it would be a two sided blade. On one hand englnd win something, which we well don't really want. On the other hand if Tuchel won them something it would mean it took a german to do something an english man couldn't. I really don't know, if i would rather them not win anything and be in anyway extremely obnoxious or if i want them to win so i can ruin it for them by reminding them of the fact that a german was responsible.
@arjungovindan1642
@arjungovindan1642 20 күн бұрын
That’s an easy choice, pick england losing.
@EliasRoy
@EliasRoy 16 күн бұрын
The Royal family is literally German 😂😂😂😂
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks 15 күн бұрын
This is quite a dilemma!
@Harry-tb8yo
@Harry-tb8yo 15 күн бұрын
I never thought about this but according to statistics the chance of national teams coached by someone from another country winning a trophy is very small. At least when it come to the European Championship and the World Cup. Every world cup winning team had a manager from the same country. To my knowledge Otto Rehhagel was the only one who won a trophy with a "foreign" national team. For me the solution is very simple. Germany should win. 😁
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 14 күн бұрын
Football is full of mercenaries; why should it matter who plays for or coaches the national side?... Bayern Munich dominated the domestic league and have won numerous Champions League trophies... when was the last time they won it with an all German team and manager?
@badabing8884
@badabing8884 18 күн бұрын
Not a curse. The biggest impediment to the national team is the separation of ownership and control of the England team. The clubs and national association have been separate since 1872. There is no incentive for the clubs to develop English players to play for the national team. They are rinsed and overplayed like Chattels. No singular style of play either. All contribute to under performance at each major tournament. Good luck Tuchel, you’ll face the same problems as every single manager since Sir Alf. And he was damn lucky to win back in 1966.
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks 15 күн бұрын
I have never heard this opinion before, so it's very interesting! I feel bad for Southgate, considering all the good he did for the team. Can't imagine why any Englishman would want that job given the amount of pressure and insane toxicity from the media and most fans. At least, if Tuchel fails, he can leave the country and not think about it any longer.
@Samson-h6l
@Samson-h6l 6 күн бұрын
How many of the clubs are still even English?
@bonfacemarube6196
@bonfacemarube6196 21 күн бұрын
I forsee the "curse" lingering into the far future as long as the English media and fanbase wont let the players be.
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks 15 күн бұрын
Lord yes ... The media and most of the fans are frothing at the mouth-level enraged. Even when the team is winning! "Too boring". "The best results in 60 years are not good enough because we didn't win. Nobody cares about second place." ☠️
@Lamebred.
@Lamebred. 3 күн бұрын
There is always huge pressure on certain players to carry the team and deliver. Gazza, Shearer, Beckham, Owen, Rooney, Kane, Foden Saka and Bellingham in Germany. If form continues the pressure Palmer will have at the next tournament will be outrageous.
@religdeb
@religdeb 19 күн бұрын
It's also worth putting things into perspective. Spain went over 40 years without winning a trophy after winning a pretty worthless Euros in 1964 which many teams didn't even bother to play in (including England who didn't bother). From 1930 until 1998 France only won one Euro cup. The Dutch with the great teams they've had over the years still has a worse trophy cabinet than England (only has one euro cup and no world cup) I could go on. The point is, have England underperformed in it's tournament campaigns for it's size as a football nation? Yes but nobody has a divine right to win anything and in knockout football tournaments sometimes you just need a bit of luck to win a trophy which historically has never really happened for England.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
We really struggled after Rooney went off injured against Portugal we lacked that Spark in attack a player which made things happen that pace and vision creativity movement link up play. He was the main focus with England in attack.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 17 күн бұрын
The one against Italy in the Euro's was the one we definitely should of won it was the biggest opertunity missed to win the Euro's and Euro 96 and Euro 2004.
@rayfootblogs
@rayfootblogs 20 күн бұрын
England's only problem is they're one of the most over-rated nations in football history because let's face it, the media make their players and managers out to be much better than they actually are. No wonder England haven't won a major trophy for over 50 years and counting despite all the previous eras of golden generations.
@merenmeso7848
@merenmeso7848 12 күн бұрын
The problem is they attach too much to club..and as for the nation they hardly click
@Tout-Le-Monde02
@Tout-Le-Monde02 12 күн бұрын
England never had a "golden" generation ..... their players were never that good at international level ..... only british media considers them "golden generation" ......
@kobe2kallday
@kobe2kallday 4 күн бұрын
Their players were that good internationally infact their 11 was better than good but that's their problem only having a world class 11 and also them over hyping all their players and expecting to win everything every time never help
@thato596
@thato596 Күн бұрын
Yes you are right. england players are over hyped
@KieranTheCatboy
@KieranTheCatboy 4 сағат бұрын
We have that kind of generation again, England could of EASILY won Euro 2024 if it wasn’t for fucking Southgate.
@paoloparziano6254
@paoloparziano6254 8 күн бұрын
From an English/Italian, I think the loss of factionalism (Liverpool v Chelsea v Arsenal) will definitely help the chemistry. I can really see England winning a major trophy in the next 2/3 competitions
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
In 2006 it was a big problem we didn’t look like a team at all. They didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing very disjointed rigid
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 17 күн бұрын
Spain weren't fancied before the Euro's but they won it.
@oKnuTo
@oKnuTo 9 күн бұрын
depens on who you ask they won the nations league and were on a incredible run leading into euros simliar to italy who were like 30 games unbeaten heading into 2020. yeah france and england had better squads of paper but the best team were clearly Spain maby Germany, but there was a drop off after that.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 9 күн бұрын
@oKnuTo Agree.
@simontravers2715
@simontravers2715 17 күн бұрын
Just to put into context how underwhelming England are historically, if u put them in a fantasy International league season with the best 24 countries ever, and could pick any players past or present to combine a squad, they’d struggle to even finish top 5, let alone threaten the top! Brazil, Spain, Italy, Germany, France & Argentina are so much stronger in depth (Argentina lack the elite level of GKs but Messi/Maradona/Aimar/Riquelme/ Cambiasso/Aguero/Veron/ Tevez/Batistuta/Crespo/Zanetti/ Ayala/Samuel/Heinze etc would MORE than make up for that!!)
@sabda.saratustra
@sabda.saratustra 15 күн бұрын
So true
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 18 күн бұрын
Gerrard and Lamaprd were Outstanding for there Clubs. But playing together with England in Midfield was totally different. Didn't work.
@Kat-fd7ff
@Kat-fd7ff 18 күн бұрын
The answer is really simple: ego.
@ConsigliereOne
@ConsigliereOne 20 күн бұрын
England still suffering from that goal that wasn't in 66. Definitely gotta right their wrongs from top to bottom to finally achieve success
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
In 2004 & 2006 we had great players on Paper World Class Players some of the best players but it doesn’t mean it’s all going to come together and it’s going to gell. Best team on paper but not on the pitch a bad team especially in 2006 wasn’t working wasn’t gelling didn’t come together we didn’t look like a team just individuals!
@theslash9210
@theslash9210 21 күн бұрын
Its funny actually not the biggest english fan but they always had the best shooters of the game right from the time of bobby charlton to steven gerrard and not to forget the best penalty expert matt le tissier ...still they often lose on penalties😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
Best team on paper but not on the pitch. Even against teams like Trinidad and Tobago we struggled and Ecuador and other poor teams.
@davidwhite7767
@davidwhite7767 19 күн бұрын
They need a long chat with the Springbok Rugby Team
@NickWard-f6l
@NickWard-f6l 21 күн бұрын
6:36 Wrong managers for starters ericcson cappello were defensive and conservative .Keegan tactically was poor .Rio Ferdinand summed up erriccson when he told the best ball playing centre half we had ...you go over the half way line with the ball il drop you ....ffs 😮
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
Alan Hansen used to say England have goals all over the park but couldn’t bloody score any.
@rangers7694
@rangers7694 13 күн бұрын
Best squad in international football at the moment, Tuchel gotta turn them into a team.
@siphotos3282
@siphotos3282 19 күн бұрын
The issue with England is they are like the Toronto maple leafs in NHL North American hockey… they have such a large fan base and it is so loyal that they will always be adored regardless of the results and the money doesn’t stop either way.
@turtle27835
@turtle27835 17 күн бұрын
This be the most wrong comment i've ever heard. England's problem literally could not be further from this. We might be most judgemental, horrid fans on the planet. The amount of abuse and ridicule the English media give to our own players is disgusting. Saka after Euro 2020 is the perfect evidence for that.
@WalterWhite-jg8ij
@WalterWhite-jg8ij 20 күн бұрын
Long may this continue.
@jonathancooper4914
@jonathancooper4914 13 күн бұрын
Good thing the lionesses ended the 56-year wait, eh?
@Cardi859
@Cardi859 12 күн бұрын
They have had good teams throughout their history, but honestly it's always that one, two or three good players that are genuinely world class and then the rest are just overrated by the English media It doesn't help that these players all play in one league and yet they have their own view on tactics and how the game should be played, and this is due to their club affiliations Their press machine is a juggernaut, and what they don't realize is how harmful it is due to mental state of the players - hyping up the players before they've even kicked the ball, let alone the tournament even starting sometimes.
@DavidDieni
@DavidDieni 14 күн бұрын
I live in Australia and I think the English have consistently fielded top class teams, and have had rotten luck...for one thing. The hand of God and Serjinhos pot shot over Seamens head. Congratulations, they are freak goals that opposition needed to pull out of their asses to beat you Limeys. The other is the unbelievable palpable pressure that you feel watching the English play and unreasonable expectations. How often does the best team win the world cup. I first followed the Italians when they won in 1982, while Brazil were clearly they best side. In 1990, Italy was a cut above the rest, but got bundle out by an ordinary Argentina. There are so many variables. England will probably win when they feel the worst team ever....who knows You should be proud. There is no other league like the English premier league. I am 64 and could not imagine my life without it. It has been a source of nail biting excitment more times than I remember. We are still gonna cheat at cricket all the same....its the blood
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 21 күн бұрын
We had the best Players in 2004 & 2006 but collectively as a team they weren’t very good. It didn’t click it didn’t come together at all disjointed. Strong squad bad team.
@nativeyo
@nativeyo 13 күн бұрын
Theres also an insane bias. When Beckham skies a penalty against Portugal he gets villified. When Rashford, Saka, and Sancho miss/have their penalties saved, its a racist take. But when Harry Kane skies his penalty against France, its on Southgate...🗿.
@user-Chris.Alger11
@user-Chris.Alger11 14 күн бұрын
No mention of Cole Palmer. If England can get him to play as he does for Chelsea...wow! Football is a game you CAN play without great skill, there are 2 other (as important) traits that are essential to win: Mental attitude and confidence. Too many times, England have been shackled by the thought of failure, rather than buoyed by the dream of success.
@sehu1291
@sehu1291 14 күн бұрын
World Cup 1990 semi final also out on penalties vs Germany
@gabrielandreitiangson1774
@gabrielandreitiangson1774 15 күн бұрын
the problem is that the media and the pundits are overhyping English players that are not that good they are just still developing and learning how difficult is to play football, just for example they compare trent to cafu and i was like what the hell is this?? i mean cafu is way better than alexander arnold he was a beast in Roma, Milan and brazil he had everything reactions, playmaking, interceptions and game reading, and the pundits like carragher, neville and other former English players that are now pundits they are comparing jude bellingham and zidane man these English pundits are destroying young english players hunger and dominance of the game.
@cincaicincai7847
@cincaicincai7847 13 күн бұрын
it's the ego starting from the management and down to players
@Sinha010
@Sinha010 5 күн бұрын
The players are amazing. They are world class. The comments ragging on the players are or saying they're overhyped are in denial. England doesn't have good coaches. They import coaches to the PL any chance they can. And it's a shame because they've overpaid millions for overhyped managers.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 18 күн бұрын
Its because Gerrard and Lampard were very similar players thats why it didn't Work. None of them could play well together to be fair Especially in 2006 they didn't really.play together if you know what i mean. 2004 was better but that was because we had Rooney on Fire! We looked a bit of a better team in 2004 than 2006. We looked a better team in earlier matches. We had Roomey though and he was on Fire Great Pace and Skill could dribble Create score goals great vision. Score goals and create goals. We were much a better team in 2004 with him in the team. After he went off injured against against Portugal in 2004 we didn't look like the same team anymore. Not as threatening. Rooneywas that inspiration ij attack.
@Kizzster
@Kizzster 18 күн бұрын
The biggest fumble was not playing Trent in 2 major tournaments.
@TheCh4nc3
@TheCh4nc3 20 күн бұрын
Come on Tommy T, bring it home
@doncarloancelotti2256
@doncarloancelotti2256 20 күн бұрын
1996 was more so the Dutch falling under pressure than England outclassing them. Unlike most EPL fans who overhype and overrate their English players, I sometimes do the opposite. I'd never take majority of the English players over their Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch, Brazilian, Portuguese, Argentinian, etc, counterparts. For a country who tries to breathe football as their major sport, only a handful are exceptional and 1 or maybe 2 are worthy for GOAT conversations (Charlton, Moore, 🤷‍♂️). Gascoigne and Owen were big what-ifs, but that defers from reality of things. Harry Kane is a modern top player but a certain washed rooster club kept holding him back for many years with spider webs filling their cabinets. Belligham is special and that's why he's playing in a top club outside England, but he'll have a long way to go competing against many prodigies in his position. Even amongst managers, Bobby Robson was their last elite figure.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
We played 451 against Portugal in 2006 but that didn’t work the players looked so uncomfortable with the system it wasn’t working and Sven never tried to change it. To rigid looked disgointed no proper system way of playing.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
The team could have been managed much better by Sven and we played a rigid 442. In 2006 against Portugal we played a 451 which was also the wrong system formation.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 17 күн бұрын
Sol Campbell goal shouldn’t have been disallowed against Argentina.
@ReubenGinono
@ReubenGinono 12 күн бұрын
Lack of creative midfielders results in the English backpedaling or trying to by pass the midfield through long balls.This needs to be addressed for them to win any major trophy.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
He was the best player and he was on fire we would of won if he didn’t get injured.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
Yes we are the most cursed nation.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
Under Southgate they played as a team they looked like a proper football team they looked comfortable gelled created more. Good understanding
@aj478
@aj478 20 күн бұрын
Fuck me mate leave some comment space for other people
@ymca4547
@ymca4547 17 күн бұрын
Until they met good teams.
@Hyper7522
@Hyper7522 8 күн бұрын
Pretty much England always looses on penalty’s 😂
@HarmvanderWilt
@HarmvanderWilt 20 күн бұрын
Mid 2000s there were better teams, or at least more balanced ones. Sometimes you need to be willing to bench big names to make a team work.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
Sol Campbell goal shouldn’t have been Dissalowed against Portugal in 2004. But Portugal were the better side after Rooney went off Injured Portugal started dominating possession and England were getting forced back deeper and deeper.
@xxNIPSxx
@xxNIPSxx 14 күн бұрын
England's main problem is club pride. When they play under one flag most players are not united because of their club rivalry.
@jlrob85
@jlrob85 2 күн бұрын
They’ve had some good players on paper but could never play good team football. I think their fans also over estimate how good their team is compared to the rest of the world and get disappointed every time. 2002 was a golden chance and had Beckham not back out of a tackle and Seaman stayed on his line they would have beaten the eventual champs
@MoonS4S
@MoonS4S 15 күн бұрын
😢 man itd really sad to think maybe Kane, Palmer, Bellingham, or Foden can retire without winning anything with their nstional team
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
We should have won Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006 if we had a better manager who was better tactically who knew what he was doing and picked the right system and got the team gelling together better and told Lampard and Rooney to stop shooting then maybe we would off.
@AW-zk5qb
@AW-zk5qb 19 күн бұрын
not 2006 World Cup, Portugal, France, Italy, Argentina and Brazil were all as good or better than England in 2006. Euro 2004 was the tournament England should have won. If they had beaten Portugal in QF in 2004, they'd have beaten Netherlands in SF and Greece in Final
@eyeswideopen6492
@eyeswideopen6492 18 күн бұрын
the worst thing England ever done was win it, the expectancy is there every time now
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 17 күн бұрын
We are still a much better team than we were in 2006.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
England’s Golden Generation in 2004, 2006, 2010, failed miserably.
@sunsshine28
@sunsshine28 10 күн бұрын
coach is big problem in 60 years. stupid choice
@hassamali8887
@hassamali8887 20 күн бұрын
Next video should be on Italian downfall
@juritsch1
@juritsch1 21 күн бұрын
What a penalty from southgate. If you shoot like that you just don’t deserve it.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
No Pattern of Play. Even the poor teams you can see what they are trying to do with England you couldn’t see what they were trying to do. The effort was there but not the chemistry the understanding between players.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
We played the best football in Euro 2020.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 18 күн бұрын
At least the Southgate generation has got further done better than Sven Goran Erikson generation. But still hasn’t won anything when they definitely should off.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
I would say the manager more than the players.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 19 күн бұрын
Then against Italy we were more defensive and he didn’t change the system which he should have done! If he changed it we properly would have won. It was the wrong Option to sick back and let Italy dominate.
@tristanwhite3472
@tristanwhite3472 20 күн бұрын
Tactically we were poor. Zero Chemistry in the team as a group playing together.
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