The Most DYSFUNCTIONAL Start to a Season in NFL HISTORY | 1971 Giants

Imagine your starting quarterback quitting the team right before kickoff, and then, imagine the backup quarterback doing the same thing. To start off the 1971 NFL season, prior to the New York Giants' first game, starting quarterback Fran Tarkenton quit the team less than 24 hours before kickoff. And if that wasn't bad enough, prior to the second game six days later, the new starting quarterback, Dick Shiner, also quit the team. This is the story behind the bizarre drama of the 1971 Giants, who might hold the dubious honor of having the most dysfunctional start to a season ever
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Members of the 1971 Giants:
Pete Gogolak
Fran Tarkenton
Randy Johnson
Tom Blanchard
Clifton McNeil
Scott Eaton
Otto Brown
Rocky Thompson
Tucker Frederickson
Bennie McRae
Bobby Duhon
Ron Johnson
Charlie Evans
Joe Green
Junior Coffey
Bob Tucker
Joe Morrison
Willie Williams
Spider Lockhart
Richmond Flowers
Pete Athas
John Douglas
Greg Larson
Ralph Heck
Pat Hughes
Jim Files
Steve Alexakos
Charlie Harper
Doug Van Horn
Willie Young
Ron Hornsby
Bob Hyland
Dave Tipton
Bob Lurtsema
Jim Kanicki
Dave Roller
Jerry Shay
Roland Lakes
Dick Hanson
Wayne Walton
Vern Vanoy
Henry Reed
Reggie Rucker
Skip Butler
Rich Houston
Don Herrmann
Rich Kotite
Coleman Zeno
Fred Dryer
Alex Webster (head coach)

[@F40PH-2CAT]

The 70s Giants were both awful and hysterical. And my Dad stick by them the whole way. Thank you George Young and Bill Parcells.

[@jeffsmith2022]

Many of us stuck by them and still do my friend...Many of my favorite players are from that era, they were not all bad...

[@30RonJon]

1970 and 72 Giants were winning football teams in an era where making the playoffs was much more difficult than today's everybody gets a trophy. Tarkenton, Johnson and Tucker were as good a triple threat as any NFC team at the time. They needed a speed WR but were not able to develop one from Rich Houston, Eldridge Small, Rocky Thompson or later Danny Buggs. They went from Homer Jones to Amani Toomer without a pro bowl WR and you can't, and couldn't make a deep run without one then or now.

[@chrismachabee3128]

Dude you have no idea. This story is the tip of the ice berg. the giants wer a champoinship team, but their final runs ended with the last championship last in the 50's and they had a spiral down that was unbelievable. It they were a hoorible football team for decades, ot a real long time. people got used to it. No one ever expcd anything from them at all. Hey they might win. They thing that made people happy was the players. like omer Jones, Tarkenta for a while, a lot o other players who were good and they were popular, you almost didn;lt care if they won, you just wanted to know how players did.

[@Tenskwatawa4U]

That's what you do if you're a fan of your team. Are you listening, Cowboys fans?

[@Unknown-bq9id]

Oh, and this didn't help: the Giants, in order to get QB Craig Morton from the Dallas Cowboys, traded their first-round pick (which was the #2 pick) in 1975 and their second-round pick in 1976 to the Cowboys--their rivals in the same division. And just who did the Cowboys pick in 1975? None other than Randy White, one of the best DTs of all time, and a top 10 Cowboys player... Ah, well, at least the Giants got Lawrence Taylor in 1981, who became one of the best of all time for the Giants (and of all time, IMO)...

[@JonWintersGold]

Dick Shiner... honestly! That dude is lucky Twitter didn’t exist when he was playing!!!

[@ZeroCrystal]

I can hear the occupational jokes already, and I am inappropriately snickering.

[@pauljohnson3340]

@@ZeroCrystal uh huh huh huh huh huh...you said Shiner

[@NJGuy1973]

Or the following MLB players: Dick Pole, Pete LaCock, and Rusty Kuntz.

[@williamgullett5911]

@@NJGuy1973 Dont forget Richard Cranium

[@vickrunalza8057]

Wow, wonder what his profile pic would be?

[@reilneid6436]

This video & alike is EXACTLY WHY you really do have the best NFL channel out there. NOBODY would would come up w/this wild shit you do. I appreciate your hard work it show's.

[@atlasking6110]

It's really too bad that Dick Shiner never became a household name.

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

and Fair Hooker

[@84sp84]

And Dick Trickle

[@luisreyes1963]

Don't forget Amanda Huggenkiss. 😚

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

@@84sp84 Yeah, that one made me wonder what his parents were thinking, LOL

[@big8dog887]

@@dallasbrubaker6054 Richard Shiner is a perfectly respectable name. The fact that he went by Dick is his own damn fault.

[@chadwickwhite6107]

This video CERTAINLY IS BETTER than Spiking the BALL into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!

[@Rockhound6165]

The Giants were so bad then they would have been better off spiking the ball on every play.

[@IHateCallofDuty69]

The coach was so bad that his coaching rating would be better if he threw his headset on the ground every play

[@CTubeMan]

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made another video about Shiner and the 1973 Falcons.

[@andrewpadaetz5549]

Or of the crazy end to the 1970 season where that Giants loss prevented a coin flip for the NFC Wild Card.

[@jamesdisalvo814]

Love those old Eagles uniforms (not the white helmets), ditto for the Rams. Tarkenton was one of the greatest QBs of all time. He never won a championship, so he's not remembered as fondly as his contemporaries like Staubach, Bradshaw, Namath, and Dawson, but he spent his early career with the expansion Vikings and most of his prime with the dysfunctional Giants. If the Vikings had him in '69 instead of Joe Capp they'd have beaten the Chiefs in SBIV.

[@jonathanrighetti5897]

my uncle is don Herrmann, thanks for doing this. I wish my father kept playing but the browns fined him if he weighed more then 255 and after suffering an injury he couldn't get back under the weight.

[@jrb37300]

Wellington Mara was a terrible owner and GM after taking over for his older brother Jack who built the team during the glory years of the 1950s and early 60s but passed away prematurely. They didn't get better until they brought in George Young.

[@aerobeehi5895]

George built a good team.

[@WaltGekko]

Besides Tarkenton, notable players on the '71 Giants were Fred Dryer, who is much better known for his time with the LA Rams (I didn't even realize until more recent years he was with the Giants first) and later as the star of "Hunter" with Stepfanie Kramer, Reggie Rucker, much better known as a member of the (old) Cleveland Browns, and Rich Kotite, who later would be the Eagles head coach from 1991-'94. It's interesting that I remember reading in Jim Plunkett's 1981 autobiography how Joe Kapp, another ex-Viking quarterback (before Fran Tarkenton went back to the Vikings to finish his career) was with the Patriots who became the New England Patriots after being the Boston Patriots since their inception as they moved from Fenway Park to what then was Schaffer Stadium in one of the first naming rights deals for a stadium in 1971. Kapp as I remember reading aburuptly left the Pats, which forced them to use Plunkett as a rookie. If you haven't already, you probably could do one on Joe Kapp as well.

[@andrewschultz6608]

"Webster" and "a really bad comedy..." if this is coincidence, it's a great one.

[@brianthomas2434]

At 4:50 "Why Mara made that statement "...I'm sure I won't be the first to point out that STATEMENT was a not terribly subtle THREAT, letting Tark know his lack of options.

[@nasetvideos]

This was an unbelievable story--How did I never hear of this as someone who grew up with so many Giants fans in my neighborhood? Great storytelling. That was a very strange start to a season.

[@diaz5292]

Let me guess: you were a Cowboys fan instead??...lol

[@DolFan316]

OBJ9 is constantly digging up stuff I never knew about and I've been studying NFL history for 40-plus years.

[@CTback]

At least it explains why teams had 3 Quarterbacks on the team.

[@diaz5292]

4:50 They never got 'The Tark' down, man. They never got him down! Total BOSS!!!😀👍

[@SnakeHiggins]

Anybody who dislikes this video has a passer rating of less than 39.6.

[@reilneid6436]

🐍 SnakeHiggens, no disrespect but the rating came back at 13.5 for dislikes to this beautiful find. A gem of the obscure NFL stuff us subscriber's get all the time.

[@VianoMusicAcademy]

They’d be better off spiking the ball on every single play.

[@robertsprouse9282]

@@VianoMusicAcademy, HOMER JONES#45 was from my late DAD's hometown, PITTSBURG, TX. in northEAST TEXAS in the ARK-LA-TEX region, and played college ball at then NORTH TEXAS STATE U. IN THE DALLAS METRO AT DENTON.. He was the first NFL'er to spike the ball, happened in 1965. JONES played at segregated FREDERICK DOUGLASS HIGH IN PITT. Later, he was traded to CLEVELAND. The spike is perfect for a post TD act, it reflects the end of a struggle to get into the endzone and releases that emotion of conquering the defense and establishing power for your team with six points and announces that the scoring player had a little something to do with it, too.. ON THE OTHER HAND, PRETENDING that you are changing a baby's/football's diaper after scoring a TD is nothing but DRAWING ALL THE ATTENTION TO YOURSELF AND AWAY FROM THE OTHER 10 GUYS THAT ALSO MADE THE TD HAPPEN, and is definitely not a release of emotion, nor is it celebratory. Its pure superego nonsense.

[@VianoMusicAcademy]

@@robertsprouse9282 here are your meds 💊

[@robertsprouse9282]

@@VianoMusicAcademy, cannot refute, huh!? Thanks for admitting you are full of STORE HIGHER IN TRANSIT, and you don't really know bleep. You just admitted it by your attempt to marginalize me, INSTEAD OF SHOWING ME WHAT YOU KNOW, EINSTEINS. One more shot at it for ya..better take it, or your cred, what little you have now, will be gone to STORE HIGHER IN TRANSIT.. Your move, mensatwits.. YOUR MOVE.. Or do you have any? Lol..

[@diaz5292]

You need to make some more videos about Grand Moff Tarkenton. He was really something special.

[@jamesage24]

Deacon Jones said he dreaded playing the Vikings before November because he hated running around after Tarkington all game in the heat.

[@donaldpaluga]

ISWYDT. May The Fourth Be With You

[@andrewpadaetz5549]

Surprised that JG9 didn't remind everyone about that season ending 31-3 loss to the Rams and the playoff chaos that would have resulted had the Giants won...you know what you would need to do for more about that..

[@DolFan316]

Webster might've had it easy compared to Packers coach Dan Devine, who broke his leg when the teams played in the '71 opener in a sideline pileup. That has to be the worst NFL debut by any coach ever.

[@msarzo]

When Shiner was the backup quarterback in Washington, the coach once benched Sonny Jurgensen and started Shiner in a game. Shiner was awful, so the coach was going to put Jurgensen in the game. Jurgensen refused to play. He decided the team, the coach, and Shiner were on their own.

[@dkbee01]

I don't know how you're doing this, but I love these stories from the old NFL. If ESPN had been around, these are the things they would have no doubt covered; but they weren't. Please keep this up. So many interesting tales from that time that those of us today don't know about. Even sounds like your narration is done in an old film room. Love it!

[@RM-ed1if]

Love Bryant Gumbel's narration on this video.

[@timsharkey1993]

This was a crazy QB situation. So was WFT last year, with Taylor Heinicke stepping into the starting lineup from out of nowhere and nearly beating Tom Brady in a playoff game. Rare stuff.

[@redmustangredmustang]

The Giants had such a bad defense that no even Fran could save them. When Fran went to the Vikings the next year, he finally had a great defense where he was able to make it to the Super Bowl that year in 72 and be playoff team nearly every year he was there from 72 on.

[@OnePost909]

'72 Vikings: 7-7, no playoffs.

[@effend446]

Couldn’t have picked better music for this video. Like watching a funeral.

[@pretorious700]

"Dick Shiner" It's amazing he didn't become a boxer. Also, he played without a chin strap. Bizarre.

[@donaldpaluga]

He turned to brewing beer #ShinerBock

[@MrMali22]

I want to add something. Because when you summed up the Dick Shiner deal, you were a little off. It wasn't "he requested a trade, they tried to find a partner, he got mad they were trying to find a place for him to go so he left". A lot of the time waivers are there for cut players. For all we know he thought he was getting cut instead of traded when the media broke the story. A lot of this crap wouldn't happen if teams would be honest with their players.

[@philstaniscia7103]

Everybody talks about Simms vs Eli, but Tarkenton was better than both of them. I go back as far as Y.A.Tittle.

[@aerobee58]

I agree about Tarkenton , Giants had good players, things just didn't go their way for many years. He had the highest passer rating in 1967. It's how you match up and execution of the plays.

[@chrismachabee3128]

Tarkentan was the best QB in histroty for a long time, espicaially with passing yardage. Think the reason his record fell was when the moved the has lines in. That changed the game and they way it was played.

[@DolFan316]

I think the chances of this scenario happening today are actually greater than ever, now that it's become cool for players to complain and quit, with the media openly cheering them on. Remember Vontae Davis retiring AT HALFTIME of a game? That was only a couple of years ago, and the media defended it!

[@donaldpaluga]

Of course you now have to factor in sports talk into the equation. Can you imagine that happening twenty years ago? Chris Russo-They're terrible, Mikey Mike Francesa-So lawst. So so lawst

[@jackmessick2869]

After almost beating the Cowboys in 1970 for the NFC east, this must have been a huge disappointment. No wonder they traded Tarkenton back to the Vikings the next year, but it starts a ten year nightmare ride.

[@joeshmoe7789]

Ron Johnson missed that season which hurt greatly. See my comment about the rest of the team.

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

When Bud Grant got to the Vikings in 1967 he wanted to get Fran. He finally became available in 1972.

[@joeshmoe7789]

@@dallasbrubaker6054 Tarkenton originally wanted out of Minnesota because of his coach Otto Graham. Graham left after the '66 season and the Vikings wanted to keep Tarkenton, but he still pushed to be traded. I'm not sure if he was traded just before or just after Grant was hired.

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

@@joeshmoe7789 The Vikings coach in 1961 was Norm Van Brocklin, and yes he and Tarkenton clashed. Van Brocklin thought all the scrambling was bush league, but it obviously worked as it tired the defense and gave him more time to find an open receiver.

[@gluserty]

Ha ha, at 10:29, there's future 1972 Giants QB Norm Snead rearing back and firing one in there for the 1971 Vikings.

[@argelbargel7680]

That's the only TD he threw as a Viking.

[@gluserty]

@@argelbargel7680 Good call; that's Norm, I guess:-).

[@fredaaron762]

Dick Shiner - proof that some parents can be really cruel or incredibly clueless

[@charlesmak534]

...Dick Butkus anyone?

[@joeshmoe7789]

@@charlesmak534 I never thought of that until I thought about what you meant.

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

Dick Trickle and Fair Hooker

[@WhatWeCallDollarsArentMoney]

Especially with his brother Rod.

[@c71score]

He's actually Richard Shiner Jr, so his dad is also a Dick Shiner. www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/ShinDi00.htm

[@lataviusdonglebarry4239]

Jaguar Gator needs to put “that’s worse then doing nothing but spike the ball every play” on a shirt and sell it

[@gluserty]

Official JaguarGator9 can continue to eat hearty off this era of Giants football (I heard a story that in 1974, when the team played at the Yale Bowl & Bill Arnsparger was coach, he was giving a pregame speech, and in view of the players in the Yale Bowl locker room during the speech, there was a sign that said, "Beat Radcliffe!").

[@richardtherichard26]

Wow riveting story.

[@noladol]

Dick Shiner, Dick Butkus. It's all the same I suppose.

[@chrismachabee3128]

The Mara management principles go back a log long way. In he 50's they were similar to the Brady Era Patriots a real good football team hard to beat.

[@roywall8169]

Shiner quit because the team refused to provide him a chin strap for his tiny helmet. 😂

[@BronxBastard730]

I've been calling people "dick shiners" for years . I knew I had heard the name somewhere but couldn't for the life of me remember where . Thank you for making this video and reminding me and giving new life to my favorite insult to throw around ... great video and remember don't be a dick shiner

[@charlesmak534]

It worked out in the end for Francis.

[@30RonJon]

But not for the Giants

[@RawwkinGrimmie64]

My favorite part of this video was "and then traded back to the Giants". I need to know what the Giants were thinking trading a player off the team and them immediately trading them back on to that same team.

[@selfdiscardedkingofruin7291]

I think if Ron Johnson hadn't been hurt for most of that season they would have done a lot better.

[@scottconner7930]

50 Years Ago

[@tommclain8893]

Shiner may have worn the tightest helmet of any QB, no chinstrap, bells rang often. QB not protected then.

[@NJGuy1973]

And many QBs had helmets with a single-bar face mask. PS: Joe Theismann wore a single bar into the '80s, and still did even after broken noses and lost teeth. And no, a better face mask wouldn't have saved him from the LT sack that ended his career.

[@DolFan316]

BTW Tarkenton threw 4 of his 11 TD passes for the '71 season in the opener VS the Packers, meaning he had just 7 in the other 13 games. This is a Hall Of Fame QB who would play 7 more seasons after this, mind you.

[@joeshmoe7789]

It shows how great his other seasons were.

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

Yep, and the Giants were shitty

[@donaldpaluga]

A QB who would play in a few Super Bowls

[@richardtherichard26]

The first 5 years of his career Bart Starr never threw more than 8 touchdowns. It was simply a different sport back then. Qbs weren’t expected to pass nearly as often and didn’t. It’s very explainable if you put even the slightest bit of thought into it

[@dallasbrubaker6054]

@@richardtherichard26 Yep, the Packers bread and butter was the Power Sweep

[@davidburke9596]

The year before they missed the Playoffs by 1 game. Somehow they lost to the previously 1-13 Bears in the home opener. In the last game needing a win, they took the opening drive down the field for 3 points. Final score Rams 31 Giants 3.

[@thomasgallagher7092]

Due to in-fighting between Wellington and Tim Mara, they were bad and dysfunctional throughout the 70s until George Young was hired

[@joeshmoe7789]

They didn't start fighting until the Larry Czonka signing. They got along that year. Tim Mara had absolutely nothing to do with what went on with the players. George Young seceded because Tim got Wellington out of the running of the team.

[@denisceballos9745]

Yes, I heard about that feud between the two owners (who had inherited the team). Those years are known as the “Wilderness Years” in Giants lore.

[@BrendonChase2012]

Dick Shiner, the first QB to post the first official perfect passer rating. Definitely not a case of better off spiking the ball on every single snap, but one week later he posted a rating of 0.0

[@shackdaddy7106]

The two best trades the Minnesota Vikings have ever made was after the 1966 season when they traded Fran Tarkenton to the New York Giants 41st round draft pick in 1968 who turned out to be Hall of Famer Ron Yary. The second best trade the Minnesota Vikings ever made was after the 1971 season when they reaquired Fran Tarkenton from the New York Giants. The Vikings were a great team except at one position the most important quarterback. Well that took care of that. Three Super Bowls in four seasons. But they did not win any. For you football fans under 40 you are going to find this to hard to believe but until 1978 when the NFL expanded the schedule from 14 to 16 games Each team used to play six or seven preseason or as they called them back then exhibition games. Crazy. Last year in 2020 they proved that they could get along without any preseason games.

[@denisceballos9745]

The only team worse than the New York Giants in ‘71, were the Buffalo Bills (with OJ Simpson). The Bills were ranked 26th out of 26 teams in total offense and, Yes, 26 out of 26 in defense. The Giants were 21/26 in offense, 25/26 in defense.

[@donaldpaluga]

Of course the Bills didn't have a killer D that season. ORENTHAL only played on offense

[@georgeplimpton9429]

Am I the only one to notice how SMALL Shiner's helmet looks?

[@tookmyjob]

I noticed that too. I thought it was a kids helmet.

[@darryllawley3552]

@@tookmyjob Also he wore no chin strap.

[@marknapiorkowski]

Or maybe Dick Shiners head was too big.

[@joeshmoe7789]

The '71 Giants were the most dysfunctional team of them all. Well Mara was out of control. After finally getting a couple of decent first round picks the previous years, they went back to drafting garbage. Their first 2 picks were Rocky Thompson and Wayne Walton, both lasted about 3 years. The Raiders drafted pro bowlers right after each of them. Mara traded Bob Lurtsema because he was the team's union rep and fought with Fred Dryer before trading him to New England as punishment. He didn't get the value he should have for Tarkenton when he traded him back to Minnesota, probably because he thought Minnesota was a punishment for him. This was at the time players were complaining about his kids (including current team president John Mara) running around the practice fields and locker rooms during practice. On top of that, Ron Johnson was hurt and basically missed the season. After the '73 season, nephew Tim was able to get him to hire Andy Robustelli to run the team, but that didn't work out due to Wellington's continuing interference.

[@CTubeMan]

Bill Parcells left after the Giants won Super Bowl 25 because Wellington Mara forced Tim Mara out of ownership.

[@joeshmoe7789]

@@CTubeMan Why do people make this stuff up? Tim Mara had cancer and knew he was dying and sold his family's half because they didn't want it. Wellington had no rights or power to force Tim, his sister or mother's decision whether to sell or not.

[@16ktsgamma]

Third Stringer:My time has come.

[@williefaulker]

Oh so it wasn't just players today holding out for money huh?

[@MountainDewComacho494]

Never see a team like the 1971 NY Giants? How about the 2021 Jacksonville Jaguars?

[@diaz5292]

The much needed context: 1:14

[@joeferaco9896]

The giants gave up over 500 points I think in 1966,that’s still a record today.

[@jeffpearljam1976]

You should do videos about other leagues. WFL, USFL, Arena etc…

[@DrWhoHarvey]

I believe that this was event occurred during the feud in the Mara family between Wellington and his nephew Tim

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

Too bad Dick couldn't put a Shiner on the Big Apple.

[@beyondleftfield4470]

Just imagine if Pittsburgh had brought Fran the Man in after that massive defensive draft, and used the Bradshaw pick to leverage more draft Capital... wOw what could have been.

[@markgraham2312]

That was funny!

[@GetBenched2010]

the Giants' ONLY period of stable, sustained success was the Parcells era. Everything else has been the New York Jets in a weaker division.

[@cellgames808]

What guy wouldn't be happy with Dick Shiner under center???

[@bradploof9796]

Homer Jones..very fast

[@MrTrack412]

I enjoyed the footage on Francis Asbury Tarkenton who in 1972 moved on to the Vikings and led a playoff team to a 7-7 record. It takes a TEAM to win.

[@DG2244]

I remember those years, they were a joke.

[@robertvaught6541]

Because of the policy of the NFL Many of its player this vet no longer watches any weekly TV of games

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

The NY Giants were extremely mediocre from the mid-1960s to the late 1970s

[@jewsco]

Until the mid 80s

[@Official_Kings_Versus]

Sooo true

[@joeshmoe7789]

No they weren't, they were terrible.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

Fact That has to be the Worst Name in NFL History

[@mikeschmidt4800]

Neil, is that you?

[@mustbemeech]

If you’re not a nfl historian than idk who is

[@jmed412]

Were chinstraps not mandatory in 1971?

[@christopherengel7436]

Dysfunctional. Anyway, anybody else how big Shiner's head looks in that helmet? (Not like that. Gross. Control yourselves.) Seriously though his nugget looks gigantic.

[@stuartboschen1241]

Like GB this year

[@mikepalmer2219]

Lol,Dick Shiner…..lol.

[@antonioriversrivers7925]

Quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. Just like all the other positions

[@brad6420]

Quitting is the new hero. Celebrate these guys! How brave!!

[@margaretjiantonio939]

They were a bad soap opera in the 70's. As the Stomach Turns was a good name for them. They sure made us sick. Boy did they stink.

[@JohnSmith-zw8vp]

Did the acting acting QB stick around at least?

[@Big_Chief38]

Giant’s were stupid! Tark was a damn good QB…. At that point after shiner quit if I was coach I’d stand up anyone else wanna quit? If so hit the door!

[@danecranberry6025]

It seems to me that Shiner, Tafoni, Grant, and Johnson had a bloated sense of their own importance.

[@brianellinger6622]

They swa all of what they were stealing

[@margaretjiantonio939]

Ar least #10 was retired. OK so it belonged to Eli Manning. Tarkington wore it too.

[@stardaddyo9]

Tarkenten quit on the giants , so I was glad every time he got crushed in the SB.

[@snappy452]

Good content, but dude, upgrade your mic game.

[@levikatriel]

I don’t know why, but my comments keep getting deleted without me doing anything. Maybe it is because I have links in them? Is anyone else experiencing it?

[@CTubeMan]

It’s too bad, you’re performing a useful service! So useful I realized the other day I welcomed you to the faculty lounge as an unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian twice!

[@levikatriel]

@@CTubeMan here is what the comment was supposed to say (without links) 1. Dick Shiner had moved around the league, and was on the falcons in 1973. They had the most bizarre start to a season, blowing out their week 1 opponent, and getting blown out in week 2. 2. The last time before 1971 that the giants were good was under Allie Sherman as head coach. However, Sherman’s career is best remembered by two disastrous plays in the same game.

[@DolFan316]

I had the same problem last year, and it took at least a month for me to figure it out. There are multiple reasons for this but if yout try to comment on a video while using a VPN, the comment simply won't go through most of the time. You'll see it when you make it but then it'll just vanish. It's not YT or even the content creator deleting it, in fact the CC was just as baffled as I was. I have no idea why but that could be your issue.

[@argelbargel7680]

In the following season, the Vikings got Tarkenton back. For whom? Norm Snead. HAHAHA.

[@OnePost909]

Also Bob Grim, a good WR, and premium draft picks.

[@o.i.c.uvanish9169]

Seems like Fran's peak was with the Giants, those five years. What could have been if Tarkenton didnt leave and spend those 5 years with the purple peaple at their prime.

[@kaybevang536]

Fran Tarkenton would have the greatest trades by the giants if they kept him and build around him

[@ZJ-ne9kn]

Early 70s dark times for nfl 😅😅 even tho it wasn't a new league still felt like it pro sports whether it was this or nba guys weren't protected like they are now why you get all these crasy stories that could never happen now

[@antonioriversrivers7925]

10 out of 15 plays the Quarterbacks handed the ball off, women could have done that. Overrated position anyway ! Threw more interception than touchdown OK !

[@Tenskwatawa4U]

The sound is bad. I can't pinpoint what exactly it is without listening to the whole thing, but I'm struggling to keep up due to the sound quality.

[@jonathanjacobs1525]

ANYONE CAN BE SAVED BY PLACING ALL OF THEIR FAITH & TRUST IN JESUS’ DEATH, BURIAL & RESURRECTION, AND THE BLOOD HE SHED ON THE CROSS. (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) …God our Saviour; Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth... ...For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;... ...Who gave himself a ransom for ALL, to be testified in due time. (1 Timothy 2:3-6) In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; (Ephesians 1:7) Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: (Colossians 1:15-16) And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself. (Colossians 1:20) ...But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ Died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (Romans 5:8-10) …the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us… Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. (Ephesians 2:13) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; (Romans 3:24-25) And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;… And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Colossians 2:13-15) I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Galatians 2:21) THE GOSPEL SIMPLY REQUIRES YOU TO PLACE ALL OF YOUR FAITH IN THE DEATH, BURIAL & RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE BLOOD HE SHED ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SALVATION Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the GOSPEL which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are SAVED, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that… CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the scriptures; and that he was BURIED, and that he ROSE AGAIN the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) For the grace of God that bringeth SALVATION hath appeared to ALL men, (Titus 2:11) …that the promise by FAITH of Jesus Christ might be given to them that BELIEVE. (Galatians 3:22) …to whom it shall be IMPUTED, if we BELIEVE on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. (Romans 4:24-25) For by grace are ye saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: (Ephesians 2:8) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who FIRST TRUSTED in Christ... ...In whom ye also TRUSTED, AFTER that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation:... ...in whom also AFTER that ye BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. (Ephesians 1:12-13) Even the righteousness of God which is by FAITH of Jesus Christ unto ALL and upon ALL them that BELIEVE: for there is no difference: (Romans 3:22) But to him that worketh not, but BELIEVETH on him that justifieth the ungodly, his FAITH is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4:5) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to EVERY one that BELIEVETH; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. (Romans 1:16) For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to SAVE them that BELIEVE. (1 Corinthians 1:21) Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the FAITH of Jesus Christ, even we have BELIEVED in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. (Galatians 2:16) But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not TRUST in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we TRUST that he will yet deliver us; (2 Corinthians 1:9-10) For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; Which is come unto you, as it is in ALL the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye HEARD of it, and KNEW the grace of God in TRUTH: (Colossians 1:5-6)