THE MOST EPIC Scenes So Far-Epic The Musical Vengeance Saga Release Party/Reaction Analysis

[@lilmoe157]

I like how in dangerous when he sings “with only one goal in mind” and there’s a pause waiting for the response of his crew but there’s no response because they’re dead

[@Mooniemew]

LMAOOO thats craazy to say but so true I didnt even notice that

[@lilmoe157]

@ I was shocked when I made the connection. Plus the whole ending was just crazy

[@aarsy9935]

I'm happy I wasn't the only one who noticed 😭

[@disaster_cat]

Well as for how he beat Poseidon, realistically it probably shouldn't have happened, but in a video explaining the gods' powers Jay said in EPIC that Poseidon is really a long-range fighter, and if you were ABLE to get up close (not that Poseidon would make it easy) you'd probably be able to take him down, plus the wind bag jet pack MASSIVELY boosted his mobility, as well as the speed giving more force to his attacks. So, there are SOME justifications for how Ody won there. And like you said, the whole "I'll take your son and gouge his eyes" was because thats what Ody did to Poseidon's son, so hes like "if you don't choose to die right here, I'll return the favor".

[@Mooniemew]

@@disaster_cat aaah i remember him explaining that! Thanks for clarifying it for me 😭

[@fazguy4547]

I feel like Ody's beat down of Poseidon is pretty justified, considering the windbag contained the ENTIRE force of Poseidon's own storm, and that force was propelling Ody at the speed of sound, with a hell of a lot of momentum, I feel that detail gets downplayed by the 3d animation making the wind bag seem controllable on Ody's end.

[@Fallenharmony13]

Honestly, in Greek mythology, there are many stories of mortals defeating gods through strategy and battle because the Greek gods feel more connected to humanity they are more like us than they are to, like the Titans they were born from but thats mostly how Greek people wanted to personify the power of nature in the world so it's not that unbelievable especially since Oddyseus is also 1/3 a demigod 😅

[@IridescentStarTG]

For me when he said he'd gouge out his son's eye unless he willingly died it kind of just reminded me of him saying he'd kill Ody unless he apologized for doing that same thing to the cyclops aka HIS son. Idk if it was the tempo or context it just made me think of that

[@galarianrapidash9483]

I don’t think Ody beat him because he’s stronger than Poseidon or anything, I think the reason he beat him was because Poseidon did NOT expect him to fight back. He was not expecting Odysseus to do anything in return so he wasn’t using his full power and wasn’t trying that hard

[@Spectralyzed]

"You didn't stop when I begged you - told me to close my heart! _You_ said the world was dark. Didn't you say that 'ruthlessness is mercy upon our-'" Even after everything that happened, even when faced with the being that caused the deaths of his men (557 of them directly and 43 indirectly), he tried to resolve things peacefully... but Poseidon ignored him, and destroyed the last bit of mercy he had left. When he finds the suitors in his palace, I can't help but feel like he's not even going to give them a _first_ chance.

[@feldfos]

Bro, look at what happened to Poseidon who stood between him and his wife. Now imagine the sheer BRUTALITY of him seeing guys awooga'ing at her xD

[@IzCantAim]

Heard a theory where Ares helped Ody in the 'jetpack' fight explaining the red eyes and how he had the supernatural 'anime' vibe during the 600 strike {Head cannon and after Athena doing what she did during God Games it sort of makes sense )

[@Randomdudefromtheinternet]

Oh yeah, in one of the shorts Jorge mentioned that if Ares aided Telemachus during his fist fight, his blessing would've been more like a berserker mode (basically an attack bonus and damage reduction). Definitely what happened in 600 Strike

[@TALaster]

With the whole "is she dead?" And them bro being war gods, it makes sense

[@oligb1469]

Those red eyes. Ares was promised bloodshed when Oddy got home and I have a theory he's giving him a little push so he can get it. Bloodshed and brutality are his prayer and to give a little strength to a violent and driven man makes sense.

[@noahgerney8301]

so glad that I am the only one who thought like that, like unlike Athena, Ares is more of a blind rage god of war instead of his opposite, Athena. Ares wants that promised bloodshed, even if it's another god, he'll take it.

[@KingsBard]

Ooh, I like that, and despite Ares not liking his sister much I think he'd probably honor her "last" wishes, respect between warriors

[@noahgerney8301]

@ yeah, that also helped making the HC, sure Ares may not agree with Athena, but it’s his sister and he could’ve thought, “well if she saw something in you, maybe I should help you”

[@kubranurerdem9196]

Yeah, that's a cool theory. We know Ares' quick thought cause anger in the person. And it makes you physically stronger. Also, i felt like the detail of Ares asking "is she dead?" was a little weird at least, to me. Maybe he wanted to help Ody to honor his sister's memory. If that theory is true, that is SO cool.

[@Latedozer]

I feel like it was the final click into the Monster. We saw a little of it when he let the sirens drown, but that seemed to be cruel for cruelness sake. Here, he was willing to fight and torture a god. There is no death for Posiden, only pain.

[@mealsome8636]

I love how poseidons' screams are musical in a way because poseidons' screams are music to odessyus ears

[@DarkestNova556]

29:55 YOU CANT TELL ME ARIES DIDNT DO THIS! To have the strength to even TOUCH the Trident HAD to come from somewhere!

[@SacredPercival]

Maybe Ares stepped in against Poseidon as a favor to his sister's sacrifice or having seen Odysseus decide not to run, but to fight even the divine. The anger and power intensifying seems to fit Ares and his role as God of War.

[@runedoom]

@@SacredPercival nah, Ares still not over Poseidon's son Gr@ping his daughter.

[@CalixionArtz]

I choose to believe that Ares' amped Ody during the Poseidon fight with his version of quick thought. Red eyes and a level of anger and rage we haven't seen from Ody ever. It would tie into his respect and worry for Athena during the end of God Games, and tie back into what he wanted Ody to do during the Trojan war and with his encounter with Scylla. Which is daring to fight head on and trust in your own physical strength.

[@dunningkrugerfxs5848]

Maybe with his sister incapacitated, Ares lent a hand to her favored champion...that's an explanation I'm willing to believe

[@Oleandra_13]

Ody, fighting monsters: Hermes, stop twerking on my raft! Ody, fighting Poseidon: I have the power of God and Anime on my side!

[@SATURNS_OCEAN]

I just fucking realized that Ody at the end he stabbed Poseidon in the eye, LIKE FATHER LIKE SON HUH >

[@Mooniemew]

@@SATURNS_OCEAN like father and son indeed how sweet 🥳😭

[@patrickmiller7399]

​@@Mooniemew😂 An awkward family reunion to be sure

[@aadityayanamandra8846]

Based on Odysseus summoning a choir, he's very clearly no longer a human when fighting Poseidon

[@oligb1469]

Ares~

[@mr_thingy]

A man who gets to make it home alive, but it‘s no longer youuuu

[@devinwhite5064]

his divine blood awakening is not what posidon had on his bingo card.

[@jimmytuplano3843]

Guys remember in gods games Athena did say to ares if ody return his home it will be bloodshed it started now

[@Leshy.the.bishop]

I know this is metaphorical but “no longer a human” as in he’s a monster now!?

[@therwbyfamilton8023]

1:11:05 I mean… as the Prophet said: We saw him draw his Final Breath.

[@noobguyscrublord3039]

Local king of Ithica loves his wife too much to stay dead.

[@WytchKat]

@@noobguyscrublord3039Ancient Greek version of “Florida Man”

[@Mooniemew]

@@therwbyfamilton8023 OMG YOUR RIGHT??! I was wondering how that would play out

[@annadominique1217]

The part where he seems to be being pulled by his friends, mother, and crew, I interpreted it as him being reminded of the heavy burdens of their deaths. Him looking traumatized is realizing he can't die there. If he dies, all their deaths will be all for nothing. Yes, their words may be comforting, telling him that it will be okay even if he dies there, but Ody understood that if he dies, that will be his last failure as a captain. I also think his last breathe is a sign of rebirth and him fully embracing to be a monster. It was him being ruthless so for one last time he will bring mercy to himself. It will be his revenge for them.

[@statz3697]

Yoo that's a really cool interpretation

[@Charlie._.Niron22]

Well Mortal beating gods in Greek mythology is Uncommon but has happened! Greek gods can't be killed, period. Not even other gods or titans or giants can kill them, they are fully Immortal but they can be hurt or imprisoned or defeated! Sisyphus beat Thanatos, the god of death (Not THE dead, that's Hades) being chaining him up and locking him up in a chest! Now he does eventually lose but he still won the first round! Diomedes, who was Trojan hero and absolute Badass (He was mentioned in the first song :D ) fought and wounded Aphrodite and when Ares came for revenge, proceeded to beat him too with Athena being his chariot driver! Achilles after his boyfriend dies, goes full fury mode and starts killing basically every Trojan he can reach, and this ended up filling up a river full of bodies which angered the River god and he tried to fight Achilles and Achilles proceeded to absolutely ruin him, and he was stopped only when Zeus sent Hera and I think Hepheastus or maybe Hermes to stop the fight. Also Achilles was so terrifying that when Apollo tried to stop, Achilles proceeds to chase Apollo around Troy lol And finally, I believe Heracles beat up a few but don't quote me on that I might be wrong So possible but can't be killed is the rule!

[@merusotajio8380]

dude Thanatos is THE god of death , Hades is the god of the underworld

[@tinavo5205]

@@merusotajio8380 I’m not sure if I’m wrong but I think you misunderstood the comment too, they said Thanatos is the god of *death* which it is in fact true, but Hades is the ruler of the underworld and the *dead.* (if I’m wrong, blame google)

[@Charlie._.Niron22]

@@merusotajio8380 Ah... Opps lol

[@jolan1997]

soooo he drew his final breath, came back no longer as himself... had backing vocals of his 600 men (that are definitely not present) and had a finishing move "600 strike"... i think that classifies him as a god now right? Also i thought Dangerous would be my favorite song but after listening to the saga a few times it's definitely Charybdis, it just sounds SO GOOD!!!! thanks for your reaction!

[@Mooniemew]

wouldn't be surprised considering hes related to Hermes as well!

[@noahgerney8301]

I am really glad that Jay had Gigi do Calyso's animatic again, because their first one was absolutely amazing and I was really hoping we would get to see Gigi's work again.

[@OdysPupper]

As for the whole story with Charybdis (The monster Odysseus fought in the song w the same name), Charybdis is sisters with Scylla, they could've met Ody WAY sooner if he went the other way instead of Scylla, and if he did a LOT more men would've died along with probably Ody himself. Pretty sure with those two's story. In actual Greekology Charybdis was a normal goddess/nymph (forgot which) that shot arrows from a fig tree to shoot down sailors, often being called a whirlpool from her skill. Which is why she's considered either a whirlpool or a large sea monster in other cases. Scylla due to some jealousy stuff, got turned into the monster she is now by Circe, who casted her into that cave and forced her to stay there for all eternity, Charybdis as well but for some other reason.

[@akaittou]

Charybdis became a stationary monster because she helped poseidon in a fight he had with zeus by sinking some islands so their land became par tof poseidon's domain instead. Poseidon borderline forced her to help him, and as her punishment zeus thunderbolted her so hard she lost her mind and her mobility and ende dup becoming a mindless ravenous monster. It's a common theory floated in the epic community that charybdis being neighbours with scylla is the reason why the sirens described the route with them as somewher eposeidon't won't dare to roam. Charybdis was his daughter and his insistence in forcing her to take part in his fight is what made her into a mindless monster.

[@OdysPupper]

@akaittou ooh yeah. I keep forgetting Scylla and Chary aren't actully sisters, so calling them neighbors just sounds funny. I feel bad for both their fates, both of Scylla's interpreted theories resulted in jealous people punishing her (Circe being one of them). Poseidon would be scared to roam near both of them considering how ~dangerous~ they are. They may not be nymphs or something but they were related to gods so they have a lotta power.

[@mazkavidstar1877]

Someone pointed it out but 10 years to a god probably feels like 10 days or something

[@konic0]

6:12 - I ask myself this all the time to the point I created a tier list where I divide the cast in tiers of availability: TIER 1: PRETTY MUCH CONFIRMED: Jorge (Ody, also literally wrote the whole goddamn thing), Talya (Circe), Teagan (Athena), Armando (Eury), Mason (Tiresias) and Luke (Zeus) - They are all confirmed to be professionals who are formally trained in musical theater and work in the field. There'd have to be some great scheduling issues. TIER 2: ASSORTED MUSICIANS - Athena (again), Telemachus, Poseidon, Aeolus, Hermes: They have their own somewhat established musical careers outside musical theater, so Idk. Also, I have no idea if Broadway or wherever the show my go to requires any form of certification from artists or anything in order to be hired and these guys are the ones I couldn't find anything like that so I didnt put them in Tier 1, except for Kira (Aeolus) but she still goes here because she is working on her own stuff, and my the looks of her insta she stays booked and busy, so it may cause hiccups when epic comes around. I put Teagan here too because her music career is going well, winning awards and stuff, so idk. TIER 3: Hera, Ares, Antinous, Aphrodite, Penelope, Polites, Scylla, Calypso: These are musicians that I have no info on their projects, like, at all so it's a mystery if they'll be available. (Jesus, that sounds so shady). But, their presence is not beyond the realm of possibility. TIER 4: THE FAM - Hephaestus, Anticlea: I don't think Jay's mom and dad are going on stage guys

[@RamsesVT]

The 2 Takeaways from this Saga: 1. Hermes is a dancing king and would devote my life to his grooviness 2. Ody can casually drop cold AF response lines like, "Next to my wife"

[@GLITH1]

I found the jet pack wind bag off putting- so I'm imagining it with just a little bit of a twist. He still has the bag on his back, but the air sort of takes the form of wings. And with the Ares theory, they take form of vulture wings. Vultures eat off dead animals- so Poseidon was dead as soon as Ares made contact with Odysseus

[@Rowan-g5n]

YESSS I LOVE THIS SOOOO MUCH MORE

[@diamondstingray2990]

9:58 Can we talk about the range of your voice!?!?!?!?! That was beautiful

[@Mooniemew]

LMAOO at this point I was struggling with Athena notes so I appreciate the compliment a lot 😂

[@diamondstingray2990]

@@Mooniemewalways for my favorite lady 🖤💜

[@lop90ful1]

not sure how i felt about 3d but that ending scene with screams of pain was truly epic

[@Treforce]

the 3d part did feel a bit stiff, especially with Poseidon just... hanging in the air like that, when he was getting the "600" strikes.

[@black_the_knave1031]

The whole Calypso thing is the ultimate case of a victim becoming the abuser that's why most people feel conflicted.

[@Mooniemew]

AAHH i forgot to like this when I first saw this yesterday but this was the PERFECT explanation for mine and other peoples feelings!!!

[@Sovreign071]

Considering that Hermes is canonically Odysseus' great-grandfather, their resemblance is a nice touch!

[@juliejong2063]

The vocals in the back for not sorry for loving you Jorge explained mortal character who have a backup vocal part comes from actual people but gods or goddesses don’t need to have a living source for the vocals

[@Jade01134]

ur reaction is my fav out of all the ones i've watched so far. I feel you. I was also speechless during the torture scene omg

[@Mooniemew]

@@Jade01134 aah stop that so nice of you to say! Yes it’s such a good scene from the dialogue to voice acting (love your pfp btw)

[@cbctebasrajeb81]

Ody got the red eyes due to excessive sea water.

[@Mooniemew]

rip his eyes later on fr

[@paleflame]

That or the good Odysseus one was dragged to the uderworld leaving the Monster.

[@LiaVanRevolution]

@@paleflame let's not make this an Heisenberg vs. Walter discussion🙏🙏🙏

[@GodBear97]

Gotta love the fact that the only god who has been nothing but good to Odysseus is Hermes: His great-grandfather

[@SacredPercival]

the "i love you, but not in the way you want me too" was like saying i love you, but i'm not in love with you.

[@arcticlimbo]

As far as my knowledge. Poseidon cared more about his children than both of his brothers. I know that doesnt seem like alot🤣 but Poseidon is definitely one to hold a grudge over his children. Especially since Odysseus already crossed so many lines before harming Poseidons son

[@Burgertimee]

I think you’ve forgotten that the Greek Gods are extremely petty and terrible people. Also Ten Years to an immortal god probably isn’t as long as it is to a mortal so the Cyclops could have been seen as a week ago to Poseidon

[@2160Tunes]

1:21:40 you could say that he is the monster rawr rawr rawr

[@paleflame]

01:07:15 Someone didn't watch Jujutsu Kaisen, as he was clearly the tweeking one.

[@desirqble]

When I was watching Ody drown and everyone starts to come back to him I literally thought, “Jorge, the trauma bringer, is doing that thing again.” 😭😭

[@zeo4481]

20:20 I completely agree F- Calipso

[@austinkreider4916]

There are a small amount of abusers that are naïve and not minded enough to know what they are doing. So I give them a chance to learn but if they refuse to then i don’t stick around them. But I have only known this in a friend sense not a romantic way.

[@tea_n_ink]

42:06 i completely get it, i am both a calypso defender and hater, because on paper she's pretty toxic and gaslighting, BUT ALSO HER SONGS ARE SO PRETTY AND HER VA WANGUI MAKES HER SOUND SO SWEET AND SYMPATHETIC.

[@diamondstingray2990]

Hopefully this one blows up like the last one did and gets big

[@Mooniemew]

@@diamondstingray2990 awww stop thanks for the encouragement diamond 😭💜🖤

[@desirqble]

NEXT TO MY WIFE GOES SO HARD MAN I CANT GET OVER IT

[@SonicFan64Tom]

I believe that Odysseus awakened his God lineage. He is 1/8th God. Hermes is Great Grandfather and Zeus is his Great Great Grandfather. His eyes glow with Godly power and the vocals from the crew return while he's empowered because the back up vocals of God songs don't have to come from a real source.

[@Fifteen343]

One thing I like to remember, Charybdis is the one and only song where Ody sings without anyone in the background or with him. Poseidon say, “There you are, coward” at the start of Get in The Water. Thinking about that tiny bit really makes me sad as he always had his men singing in the background or someone else singing with him. All this to say I’m so in love with Epic and this saga has been great. I’ve been singing Get in The Water way too much too 😅

[@zayne8331]

In my opinion, the only thing she did wrong was keep him there. (but to be honest I don’t think he would have been able to leave even if she let him since it was a punishment from the gods, and even if he did manage to leave the island he would have died without divine intervention) We have no confirmation that in EPIC she assaulted Ody. Unless it’s said by Jorge I don’t believe it. So I do feel bad for Calypso.

[@mazkavidstar1877]

Even if she didnt physically she literally did emotionally and mentally Try to f with him

[@awakener-s3l]

Keeping him there was still bad, since it was 7 YEARS of it

[@zayne8331]

@@awakener-s3l Let’s not forget, Ody wouldn’t have been able to leave even if she let him, the gods basically trapped him there for punishment just like they did to Calypso. Athena had to literally BEG Zeus to release him.

[@zayne8331]

@@mazkavidstar1877 She wasn’t trying to fuck with him, she was genuinely in love, and was trying to build a connection.

[@zayne8331]

@@mazkavidstar1877 Obviously she wasn’t terrible to Ody because he said he loved her as a friend.

[@joshua7866]

Great reaction, even tho ur recovering from sickness ur voice still sounds good to me; and I also can't help but to sing and bop around when listening to epic.

[@Chrysomolus]

I remember I had to wait till one In the morning to watch this stream and I would gladly do it again

[@Mecha_Neko]

I'd like to share that i got triple tapped by the "MIIIiiIIIiind" close-up because it happened, then an ad, then it happened again, then another ad, and then again. My soul has been cleansed, i have ascended, and I'm dropping a sub because I've never seen this channel till today. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

[@Mooniemew]

lmaooo glad to join the ted talk

[@sjhype112]

I have my thoughts on calypso's situation, but I dont want to bore you with too much reading so I'll try shortening, it, but it might seem a bit lacking that way so if you have anymore questions just ask. Sorry to update this for the second time, but under the sake of fairness, I'm gonna shoot myself in the foot cause I was listening to love in paradise, and i realised it is explicitly said, both by Athena and even Calypso herself, that Odyseuss is trapped there, by Calypso. It isnt a spell placed by some old God, its one done by Calypso herself. This basically defeats a good chunk of the points I made, but I should have checked my facts first. Thus the correct line of events is Calypso is trapped as a child, goes ever so slightly insane, Ody arrives, Calypso traps him, then he is eventually set free by the Gods? This brings even more questions to me, cause it seems Zues intentionally sent ody to calypso's isle, and can dictate who stays there, which insinuates that he trapped calypso? I want to read the orignial mythology, but I know Jorge took some creative liberty here and there, so it might not be that helpful. Just wanted to clear my mistake, didnt want to spread false info, but I'm leaving the original right below so you can tell what i was talking about. When put on paper, Calypso has suffered a lot, in way most people can't fully imagine because of how specific it is. To sum it up, it goes like this: your left on an island all by your self, you are unable to leave, and no one can even find your island, so no visitors. The Gods know of this, and some can even visit you (like hermes) but they dont, ever. You've been there for over a hundered years, you cant die, and at most you have a few animals around (the only confirmed animal i've seen is a crab that appeared in the animatoin showed in the livestream). With no parents, elders, or gaudrians, you've had no help in develeoping emeotionally thus will lack basic social and emotional skills. Finally, someone arrives on your island, and they are alive. You think this is a sign of good things to come; theres so much you haven't done, things you could never do, but now they are possible. You could have friendship, talk to someone, maybe even find love; you cant let this chance go, you thought no one could ever come to this island, theres no garantee he will stay, what if he leaves? what will you do? sit around for another hundred years? No, you won't, you will do what you have to, just to make him stay, just to make sure your never alone again, and plus, it's not so bad here, he'll like it here, and he'll love me. That more or less sums up Calypso's situation, a victim repeating the cycle they were trapped in, literally. This isn't to say she's justified and free of concequences, I think the mere fact that she got an 'I love you' of any kind from Odyseuss was kind enough. She isnt a monster, she isn't evil, she is, in a sense, broken, and she thought Odyseuss could fix her, he couldn't, and she's not at fault for thinking like that most people have thought that too. She was stuck there for years, and believed Odyseuss would be too, and so it was ok to keep him for herself. The issue is she went around this situation all wrong, she wanted something she couldnt have, becuase she's never had anything. Most of us would do the same in her situation, thus, it isnt wrong to sympathise with her, or feel bad for her, just dont excuse the things she has done. Furthermore, dont villainise her as its unnecessary. I said I'd try and shorten this, and i promise, i tried, I just had a lot to say. If you disagree with my thoughts, or find inaccuracies with what I have said, please tell me, I tried to find the right information for this, but I wouldn't be suprised if i still messed up. Thank you if you took the time to read this. Had to make some changes after re-reading, sirry, just wanted to make it more cohesive.

[@Mooniemew]

no I agree with you! I think she is very complex and isnt a simple "bad guy" I wont villainize her but I also dont wanna move on be like eh she's forgiven after this yknow? I saw some people say people will like her more and forgive her mistakes after this song and I personally disagree. I didnt grow to like her but i grew to understand her side a lil more and have some empathy! Shes clearly Someone who deserves lots of love but at the same time life is unfair for her. She thought this was her new life to start smth new with someone but it ended up leaving a bigger toll on ody and more emotional baggage. I also went into this with a mindset that she SA ODY (Not confirmed but implied a lil during the first song we still dont know though in this version of the story) which personally makes it hard to say anything. emotional and SA isnt smth I can ever forgive or move past on so thats why I felt so conflicted cause it was never confirmed nor denied so I wanted to be careful with my words especially since ody in this song did say " I love you just not in the way you want me to" does that mean he sees her as a friend or just saying that as a last goodbye and time they spent together? Idk i loved to hear your pov on it tho!

[@sjhype112]

@@Mooniemew I get what you mean, especially about the SA part, I never thought about that and now that I am, it seems a bit too possible cause Calypso probably had minimal understanding of things like personal space and bounderies, her doing things within the lines of SA might is a bit too likely for comfort. Thanks for the clarification on your part, helped me learn more too.

[@Mooniemew]

@@sjhype112 no thanks for your insights as well! I love learning about characters and why the act the way they do!

[@astro1216]

​@@Mooniemewin god games Athena says that ody hasn't cheated on his wife which I think means that Calypso didn't go so far as to SA Odysseus. Although I do still think that her emotionally pressuring ody is wrong. Just what I personally think though.

[@gun506]

I just now noticed the fist bump Hermes gives Odysseus at 22:55

[@annalisedonavan1758]

The whole captain thing came from during the wisdom saga he got copyrighted and to get his attention the stream went down people started yelling captain

[@kaiserdragon7233]

42:16 Yes, we all do, stripping the odysseus connection. It's while not a break off song. It's an acceptance and moving on song. For the most part, we all will experience this. Think this connection to someone is real and going to last only to find out. It was never meant to be. And blaming on your own heart, asking why you have to feel that way. Knowing the heart is unreasonable and illogical. No matter how hard you try too.

[@jaybirdrosewater-holmes7071]

Ody stabbing Poseidon is so 👏 goddamn 👏 cathartic. Ans you were right, Odys mentioned whats happened but he hasnt really had the chance to actually vent and get those emotions out, especially after he went on the Monster path of repression and then being stuck with Calypso, who we know he never said anything just based on the line in Love in Paradise I would honestly love to see one of the animatics in the future show him crying a little bit

[@TALaster]

I have a theory that's calypso's background vocals are male because she's only ever known Odysseus 😢

[@The-archaologist]

No she does not - she ends giving birth to his child

[@TALaster]

@The-archaologist ooh alright

[@ThXtsVnfortunXte]

I think the red eyes is ares dark thought or sum like it

[@diamondstingray2990]

Also it seems like this reaction is also blowing up like the last one

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

Atlas is Calypso's father, a titan who supports the heavens on his shoulders. "sky as a friend" strikes differently. atlas is stuck holding up the heavens and Calypso is stuck on her island because she sided with her father in the war between the gods and the titans. if I remember correctly.

[@lloydbernasol491]

Man Jorge never credits himself for his excellent vocals and wonderfull saga. Cant wait to see the ending of this saga kinda freling bittersweet that its one more saga before it finally ends. CANT WAIT

[@Mooniemew]

saame I love his vocals and his acting as an Mc! Cant wait to see the ending!

[@Smootiful]

I dunno if you found it, but just in case, Barbara Wangui voices Calypso. Her voice it stunning imo and I love her songs!

[@lilianyan]

I know there are some better explanations, but I would like to think Ody could win here not only because of the wind bag, but also because he can't technically die since the gods allowed him to return home after the previous saga. So it's essentially an unbreakable force versus an immovable object; the only thing that decides the winner is whose will is stronger. And yes, Ody's will to see his wife is so strong that it rivals that of the gods.

[@kiratheusagiisworkshop5266]

Love the shocked laugh when Ody dropped the coldest line there at the end 😂❤

[@Mooniemew]

@@kiratheusagiisworkshop5266 LOL he ate the line but god damn I wasn’t expecting that 😭😂

[@kiratheusagiisworkshop5266]

@Mooniemew SAME! It seems like it took many by surprise 🤣

[@AmericanBrit9834]

I'll be honest. I'm not a fan of the jetpack. 600 strike, writing-wise in my opinion, is probably the weakest song in EPIC. It makes Poseidon so much less threatening and not in a good way. Edit: Actually I think an even bigger issue is just how contradictory this song feels to the rest of EPIC and it kinda preemptively wastes the catharsis of Odysseus being able to fight back which should be saved for the suitors. I have a very hard time believing that the Posiedon in Ruthlessness and 600 strike are the same being. It really breaks the immersion. Does it ruin EPIC? No, absolutely not. 1 bad song alongside 34 (currently released) fantastic songs doesn't ruin the entire musical. It's just kinda disappointing especially considering how hyped I was for this saga.

[@Mooniemew]

@@AmericanBrit9834 lol I can see why I was shocked as well but came to love the anime battle!

[@yuitrigger]

Well, he wanted to make it a boss battle, so how would he fight Poseidon in the ocean, he has to fly. I wasn't a big fan either but it makes sense the way it is used. Now i like it.

[@Mooniemew]

@ saaame first time I was like woooah but now I’m like YESSSS

[@OdysPupper]

@@Mooniemew Jorge DID say this saga would've had the most video game fighting/anime inspired animatics!!! I have a feeling they used the jetpack windbag as an excuse to do something like Dragon Ball, REGARDLESS I LOVE THIS FRIGGEN MUSICALLLL

[@awakener-s3l]

Ya the wind bag had so much potential but instead it’s just “Ody can fly woohoo!” I’m ok with Poseidon losing since he’s weaker in Epic than in the Odyssey, but the jet pack is goofy

[@hanshotfirst4214]

I mean hermes has gotta help his grandson if even a little bit XD

[@jacobgaboriault6387]

Calypso was cursed by the other gods after the war between gods and giants to be tied to the island and to fall madly in love with whoever ends up on the island no matter who they are not excusing her but she also couldn't not fall in love with ody

[@mikakes]

the "fall in love with whoever ends up in the island" thing is from percy jackson, never mentioned in mythology at all :)

[@SoraJack]

We needed charybdis because: - we needed to show something dangerous about the journey other than poseidon. - we needed a win for Ody - we needed him to talk about where he is in his journey, where the bag was opened last time, near the shores of ithaca.

[@ChristtineHeminover-r5t]

Ody did not demand Poseidon to call off the storm he made a promise to Poseidon that Poseidon would stop the storm one way or another

[@lloydbernasol491]

Imma just say something moonie you have great vocals!!!

[@baarry22]

thanks for the reaction :DD

[@Mooniemew]

My pleasure!! Glad you liked it!

[@juliejong2063]

Did you notice the twirking Hermes 48:39

[@malenejensen02]

Loved your reaction! I always do 🥰😍

[@Mooniemew]

tyyyy Im glad you enjoy them glad your here!!!

[@thegamingeye7460]

Glad to have you back, missed your wonderful voice. o(〃＾▽＾〃)o

[@Mooniemew]

@@thegamingeye7460 good to be back!!! Glad to see you here as well 🥳

[@diamondstingray2990]

Also this may be late moonie but happy Halloween

[@Mooniemew]

im also late but happy halloween!!

[@Impimperator]

Nice reactiong az always but so many pauses in Ody vs Water father battle

[@JoshBarklem]

Did you know that calypso took her life when ody leave her

[@daniilrepkin3038]

Still waiting last saga reaction

[@nurrekoldboy5146]

Look I know that it’s not really a one to one but literally swap Odysseus and Calypso’s gender should give a clear indication about what’s wrong. Let’s also not forget Calypso is a god and is well aware that not only does the guy have a wife but wants to get back to her. Like sure it sucks about her situation but situations don’t give victims passes on being abusers, intentional or not.

[@nurrekoldboy5146]

Not that I think people like calypso and yeah the song is a banger just the context makes me cringe.

[@Mooniemew]

this^ I knew people were going to defend her but Ill be honest emotionally or physical abuse should not be excused in anyway and if she was a man the whole fandom would riot about had bad "he is" tbf in this version we aren't sure if she did SA but it still doesnt excuse the mental trauma

[@Jp41999]

Swisscheidon.

[@itschoisan1720]

Bestie get back on the Ithaca saga is out