The Most Flawed Mechanic in DBZ Dokkan Battle

[@fused_fighter16]

"Mom said it's my turn with the domain!"

[@legendaryred24]

@@fused_fighter16 😭

[@creamery299]

Best comment right here

[@anonymous889..]

I enjoy your pfp.

[@megasoniczx6960]

The biggest problem with Domain's is that they keep cramming them entirely onto villain teams. Super Bosses are 3 major Domains, Movie Bosses has 2, its feels like another method of keeping villains down and making sure Super Class stays on top. Since Domains were introduced, we only have 2 Super Class domains and 6 Extreme Class. Domaims feel like a way to handicap villains,

[@legendaryred24]

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[@PrasuPlus]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. The 2 Super Class ones are F2P INT Trunks and TEQ LR UI, aren't they?

[@megasoniczx6960]

I was thinking STR Future Gohan and TEQ UI, the F2P Trunks hardly crossed my mind since he was pretty irrelevant on launch

[@PrasuPlus]

@@megasoniczx6960 Oh, I forgot that. Maybe the reason I forgot was Gohan's DE is automatically activated.

[@Rebelrose]

I don't know if I'd say domains handicap villains when some of those domains are sorta restricted to activate like Lord Slug's and INT LR Broly's. Super Bosses is the only one it really impacts. So technically speaking, You can already choose. The issues I find is A. When a character gets a permanent transformation from activating their domain, and you're running two of that character B. How the domains restrict team builds with the super or extreme class enemies AND allies taking extra damage. Either way I believe they're making a decent step foward with the Domains, they even said they're working on them in producer letter after WWC

[@isaacshell1660]

There's such an easy fix to this problem too... simply just give the player the choice to activate the domains after the card is already transformed. And also give other units the ability to activate their domains when available and choose which domain (out of other previously activated domains) to have up at one time.

[@legendaryred24]

I just don’t know if that works for units who are directly tied to the domain like Super Buu or Zamasu

[@isaacshell1660]

​@@legendaryred24 In that regard, that's where it's specific, but honestly, I see no reason why those units can't transform without their domains up (disregarding the thematic purposes). If AGL LR broly can have his transfo even after his domain is gone, then so can buu and zamas. (more so buu, because zamas would break the game if he could transform without his domain 😭 probly make it where his transfo lasts the turn it's activated, if the player chooses not to activate the domain with the transfo)

[@legendaryred24]

@ it just wouldn’t make sense. If you cancel the domain you cancel the domain form as well because they are tied to the domain. Broly would still be transformed but Buu and Zamasu would just go back to base

[@Rebelrose]

While the fix is "easy", I don't think they could make such a change given how big it would be to cards. It's like adding a new mechanic to a card that's already out. Mostly speculation on my part, But I'm sure there's some legal thing preventing them from doing so.

[@legendaryred24]

@ yeah I can agree to this for sure

[@kuzanjp9336]

The worst part is that most domains are available around the same time which is from turn 4 onwards. Only Slug, INT Broly and Buuhan can domain turn 1 and none of them are on Super Bosses.

[@legendaryred24]

@@kuzanjp9336 exactly

[@Solace92]

What i find an even bigger scam is that Rosé could've at least stay in his "transformed" state, but they didn't even give him that, they said screw all that, we only doin it for broly 😭

[@legendaryred24]

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[@kickasscowell5654]

TEQ UI gets to as well, but he's like the ONLY super class domain that's even close to relevant

[@Harsha-h5d]

The buff rose really needed would be keeping his transformed state man (I love running him in the future saga so i hope buffs are coming for that team soon)

[@legendaryred24]

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[@doomiseternal201]

They should implement a dual domain system, where multiple domains can be opened but only one of the domain effects work at a time and then once one of the domains runs out, then the other domains effects will activate, but any part of the passive skill required for that characters specific domain to be open can be active because both domains are open at the same time, just only one of the domains territorial effects is active at a time to prevent characters from being too powerful

[@legendaryred24]

@@doomiseternal201 this would be nice

[@ignis4432]

I think if they change 2 thinks in domanis thinks will get better 1 let domain stack (they alerady 2 edge sword becuse they can buff enemys) 2 let characters who transform in domain stay transformed if new domain give them full buff (there need to be some kind of buff to stay transformed)(thanks to that teq zamasu and phy goku black could best pals)

[@legendaryred24]

That second idea would be interesting 🤔

[@Rebelrose]

2 probably won't ever happen cause you're asking them to make a big change to a character whose already out. It's not like when they buff or fix a character who isn't working as intended, Characters who revert back to normal after their domain is gone are SUPPOSED to do that, and that is a big change I don't think they're even allowed to do. As for letting them stack, IMO the second domain you activate should just override the first one. Like if you use AGL Broly's, then use TEQ Zamasu, Zamasu swaps but removes Broly's domain and changes to Infinite Zamasu

[@legendaryred24]

@@Rebelrose I mean to be fair no matter what they do it is gonna be a big change to characters because it affects their domains. But I mean overrides are fine, but they aren’t gonna be as effective as first though. This is due to the vast amount of units that are getting forms tied to their domain like Rose and Buu

[@Vergil_DaGoat]

Like truth said the domain update is teq ui goku and they know about the domain issue but wont fix it

[@legendaryred24]

@@Vergil_DaGoat Oh yeah I’ve given up on the domain update lol. I just don’t even know how you would fix domains since they are adding more and more units who have forms specific to the domain. They just need to spread it more out between Super and extreme class

[@Vergil_DaGoat]

@ ive given up hope too they dont care about villains so they wont change anything like the name linking

[@legendaryred24]

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[@kickasscowell5654]

To be fair standbys have a very similar problem, but i find they're better designed as they focus on altering the individual characters actions as opposed to just buffing the team and doing whatever else

[@legendaryred24]

Yeah, and well I forget if the standby glitch still works, but there was a way to get two of the same type of standby out as well

[@kickasscowell5654]

@legendaryred24 at the very least there ARE different types, like you could have dragon fist, gt duo and famehameha all out at the same time. Maybe even something like the Buu saga duo or INT ssj4 but I'm not sure

[@legendaryred24]

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[@eggoman5522]

All they need to do is to let us stack domains for more than 1 character. Maybe dont make the buffs stack since that would be too broken, but at least let 2 units go in their domain at the same time to transform.

[@legendaryred24]

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[@dracoblizzard7944]

Most of this year's domain issues could be solved by simply changing AGL Broly's active skill from "Transforms; creates the domain..." to just "Transforms" and then in FP Broly's passive "Creates the domain... (once only) upon entering character's attacking turn"

[@legendaryred24]

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[@davidelin7680]

Why cant they just put that you can overwrite your own domains? So you can trasform anyone you like in a order and keep the domain you most like Its easy as that

[@legendaryred24]

It is sort of. Units that straight up transform and stay that form yes I agree, but units like Buu and Rose not exactly. They are directly tied to their domain so it isn’t that sinole since if once their domain is gone so is their form

[@PrasuPlus]

Dokkan should just let multiple Domain Expansion be able to cast, but only the most recent one is active. That way, TEQ Mugen Zamasu and PHY Naruto Rosè can be broke n.

[@legendaryred24]

For sure

[@manuelzelaya8973]

I have like three thoughts on how it could work to utilize multiple domain transformations, one would be like for same domain characters for leader and partner just to be able to activate it and add the turns of the new domain or refresh it, second would be for two separate domains the new one just simply overrides the old domain, third would be that the transformation can happen but it’s applied to the duration of the current domain

[@legendaryred24]

@@manuelzelaya8973 The issue lies in characters that are directly tied to their domain like Buu and Zamasu. If you override theirs it will remove the transformation as well, there is no way to not make it like that. So the mechanic would have to work around that somehow or make it to where they overlap

[@MUEMH2]

Thank you for talking about this

[@legendaryred24]

@@MUEMH2 yessirrr

[@VegetaandGoku_Gaming]

What a completely random video that I was totally not expecting!!!

[@legendaryred24]

@@VegetaandGoku_Gaming lol

[@ssj2gohan351]

So my idea is when a domain is activated (let's use Broly for example)you can transform with Rose and Zamasu and be able to do Future Gohan's active but Broly's domain effects are the one that are gonna be up so in conclusion if a domain is activated you can use the abilities of other units whether it would be a transformation or an active skill but the effects of the domian that got popped are the ones that are gonna be up(btw the same problem is with standby skills there are different versions but most of them are ki charging ones which hurts the SSJ trio and Z duo cuz you would obviously use the family kamehameha one)

[@legendaryred24]

That won’t work tho. The Buu and Rose forms are not transformations. They are directly tied to their own domain meaning that if you want to use them you need their domain on the field. So it would have to overlap

[@ssj2gohan351]

@legendaryred24 yeah that does make sense se with Zamasu even but they added movie characters to buu saga so who cares they can do it lol

[@legendaryred24]

@ sure that’s true

[@blacksaiyantrevor]

And then Lorg Slug came...

[@legendaryred24]

@@blacksaiyantrevor and?

[@darklogh9715]

The solution would just be to let all the domains stack at once, I think it would perfectly fair and balanced against a super class boss 🙏

[@legendaryred24]

@@darklogh9715 😭

[@pxrisw]

Worst mechanic? You mean final blow, right?

[@legendaryred24]

@@pxrisw I said flawed not worst

[@pxrisw]

0:06 I believe the text on the screen says otherwise

[@legendaryred24]

@ not what the title says 🤷. Also final blow isn’t even a mechanic it’s an ability. You don’t swipe up to activate final blow, there’s no animation for it

[@pxrisw]

@@legendaryred24 I mean it technically is a mechanic as its conditions are only fulfilled when the player does a specific action, i.e defeating the opponent with a specific character. It’s the exact same as an active skill or a revive, you can only activate that once a certain condition has been met

[@legendaryred24]

@ not really, final blow is a condition. Like you need to do final blow to get the rest of your kit

[@Cheeto42069]

The most flawed mechanic is Lr super 17 not having an eza

[@legendaryred24]

@@Cheeto42069 lol

[@francescoriccio77]

Technically buuhan doesn't have any problem bc broly's link only with eachother

[@legendaryred24]

I mean yeah if you run the full Broly version of the team, but I mean what if you don’t have all of them and have a few Buu’s including Buuhan? You are gonna run them together and then issues arrive. Really the main issue is in Super Bosses and then Slug and Broly

[@IbrahimMahmood-r8h]

Shall I tell you what else is flawed The gammas not having a ko screen

[@legendaryred24]

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[@Muidragon76]

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[@legendaryred24]

@@Muidragon76 I gotcha

[@legendaryred24]

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[@Muidragon76]

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