The Most Frustrating Finales on Drag Race

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The Drag Detective

The Drag Detective

Күн бұрын

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@Stephenjosephbell
@Stephenjosephbell Ай бұрын
These bad finales also just put a sour note on the winners, which is usually not their fault
@DragDetective
@DragDetective Ай бұрын
this part too!
@givemetheloot8026
@givemetheloot8026 Ай бұрын
@@DragDetectiveI genuinely feel so bad for Angeria bc she is so sweet and did well all season, but the way the producers fumbled the finale made her win feel undeserved and got her so much unnecessary hate from this shitty toxic fandom
@rebeccarichardson8669
@rebeccarichardson8669 Ай бұрын
It's "usually" not their fault? Oh right, because there's always the rare occasion when it is their fault. 😂
@rebeccarichardson8669
@rebeccarichardson8669 Ай бұрын
​@@givemetheloot8026I didn't hate her because she won. I hated her because she can't go five seconds without saying, "Bitch." 🙄
@HermenejildoPimiento
@HermenejildoPimiento Ай бұрын
@@rebeccarichardson8669well i agree with you except for one single occation, Captivating KatKat being disliked is definitely her fault 💀
@balazskiss9252
@balazskiss9252 Ай бұрын
Global All Stars is the slowly moving carcrash I cannot look away from
@dino2064
@dino2064 Ай бұрын
theyre trying their hardest to make me stop watching and its working
@Hiiiiiiiiieeee
@Hiiiiiiiiieeee Ай бұрын
​@@dino2064And it actually kind of started off fun. But the rigory is so obvious it's hard to look past.
@mjm3091
@mjm3091 Ай бұрын
​@@Hiiiiiiiiieeee the cast and the concept is great. The challenges even if slightly boring, still were well rounded to let the girls shine. Everything else is genuinely so bad, like we haven't had such bad season since forever. Even the last few All Stars weren't this rigged.
@MusicAndMoreAJ
@MusicAndMoreAJ Ай бұрын
Nah I saw the crash episode 3 and was like nah I'm good
@kushiellee
@kushiellee Ай бұрын
I perhaps have a heightened awareness of ethnocentrism, anthro grad student, but I've now watched several franchises where maybe editing wasn't perfect but 1 thing they can't control, imo, perhaps bc Ru & Michelle aren't judges, is expression of cultural values. We've gotten almost no cultural expression on Global AS & that's pretty fcked up. It's why I've turned twds mostly only viewing DR MX & Asian franchises which imo, are truly quite beautiful to watch & I'd recommend even for non lang speakers. There's less extremes in the wealth b/w Queens, also a byproduct of cultural norms, & production doesn't seem so overtly heavy handed abt maneuvering Queens into place. I've seen lip syncs that move entire judges panel to tears from the emotions packed into lip syncs. On Global AS, besides Alyssa /Kween ls, the ls's give off very little but it's not the Queens' fault. They're being put in the impossible position of being likely recruited for this season, committing to speak Eng on cam, & while they come from 12 radically different places, they're not being given any accommodations. Why aren't they being given translations of challenges to read, or even the lyrics in their native languages? That's the train wreck to me. If this was having in an academic or typical work environmnt, they'd have translators on hand. When Michelle was giving that inconsistent coaching on "Bewbies", if this was filmed in the US, there'd be advocates for the intl Queens but they're filming in Costa Rica, where by lrg they can exploit Queens for their own gain. That we watch w/baited breath for each episode, that's also pretty fcked up. No, I won't stop watching bc ultimately, I feel it would disrespect all the work& sacrifices these Queens put in over their lifetimes. My hope is another entity, that's more ethical breaks off from the machine WOW's become, bc 1 entity shouldn't be allowed to literally keep a stranglehold on the dreams of not only US, but Queens from every part of the world. There's a reason we don't have monopolies & I think we're seeing it here
@BrandonJames2016
@BrandonJames2016 Ай бұрын
The way AS9 had made the fanbase turn on Angeria who was a fan favorite on S14 but bc of production choosing to rig her into the top 3 when there were talent show performances better than her and not winning the final lipsync either it has tarnished her moment of winning the season.
@DragDetective
@DragDetective Ай бұрын
This part! She ate the whole season too, which made it even worse
@SpyV_
@SpyV_ Ай бұрын
People just use any situation to hate on a queen and they never want to take responsibility for it, it's always the same excuses like: "*insert random queen* was heavily favored" or something like that, people rather shit on someone who did nothing wrong and blame their hate on production doing a bad job than actually understand that their behavior is nasty
@RonnieStewartJr
@RonnieStewartJr Ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!! I LOVED Angeria, and I really didn’t want to discredit her winning, but the riggory was RIFE! Plastique, Jorgeous, AND Nina all had better performances in the talent show, and Vanjie won the final lipsync for me. But it was very unsatisfying for Roxxxy to win all her lipsyncs across 3 seasons just to lose the finale lipsync.
@warwickbrown9870
@warwickbrown9870 Ай бұрын
I've been wondering if, because Roxxxy won so many lip syncs (and money for her charity) - that by the finale, production felt they had to spread some of that money around so gave it to Angeria?
@claudionosotti8812
@claudionosotti8812 Ай бұрын
and the worst part is Angeria really did amazing and along with Roxxxy and Plastique she was undoubtably in the top 3, but while Plastique had no real storyline in the season, she was doing very good but that was it, Angeria and Roxxxy set up the rivalry that lasted the whole season and should've had its closure with a top2 lipsync between them. Instead, they chose to rig a challenge with that bullshit 3 star twist to give the impression other queens had the chance to win, taking away Plastique's deserved spot in the top 3 and making Angeria seem undeserving of being there, heavily swaying the public's opinion towards Roxxxy and undermining Angeria's eventual win. It really sucks, they screwed a very good and enjoyable season with just one move.
@ryeile
@ryeile Ай бұрын
the season 10 queens waiting to lip sync looks like a bunch of kids trying to sneak candy into the movie theatre
@em0tional.machine
@em0tional.machine Ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@iandean1112
@iandean1112 Ай бұрын
JAIL 😂😂
@milesnorthcut7537
@milesnorthcut7537 Ай бұрын
Season 8 Episode 2 lip sync song: I Will Survive All-Winners finale lip sync song for $200k: Swish Swish Make it make sense….
@kaitol1934
@kaitol1934 Ай бұрын
Like if you wanted jinx to win ( she deserved to win ) then make the song a campy song like idk old McDonald or switch it to rolling in the deep from earlier in the season so it made sense for jinx to edge out monet. That baffled me when the song came on they had to hard edit that lip sync
@IvyTinwe
@IvyTinwe Ай бұрын
I think that they want to have their finger on the pulse of time (like with the belated goth challenge when Wednesday was big), but so many things feel stale after some time
@watermelonludmilla5555
@watermelonludmilla5555 Ай бұрын
What people don’t realize is how much the edit can make or break a season. If you’re the editor of the show and you know who’s going to win in the end, you want to build up that individual in the edit. So why would they give so much time to Roxxxy and so little to Angeria in the last half of the season??!!
@johnsmith2875
@johnsmith2875 Ай бұрын
It feels like they don’t decide the winner until the day before the finale at times
@evasyoutubeera
@evasyoutubeera Ай бұрын
LITERALLY!!!! And if they didnt know they were gonna crown angie at that point, why didnt they crown roxxxy?? The whole season built up to it
@4kupscale
@4kupscale Ай бұрын
I doubt the editors even know the winner until the last weeks of the season's airing
@left2rightanimations561
@left2rightanimations561 Ай бұрын
literally did it with nymphia and sapphira though (even though i doubt nymphia gave them much to work with)
@Frankendiaz
@Frankendiaz Ай бұрын
​@@left2rightanimations561 sapphira bombed the finale lipsync so hard it would have been weird to crown her. She didn't really give them a choice
@Auristmusic
@Auristmusic Ай бұрын
one thing not mentioned on the AS4 final here is they also didn't even film the double win and what we got shown was a weird frankenstein edit of both of their solo wins, not just weird to watch but also a sign to us that they didn't even know what they wanted from the finale
@leonardnimoyrox
@leonardnimoyrox Ай бұрын
All stars 9 left so many threads. Like, Shanel couldve won the talent show, gotten into the finale and lip synced. We wouldve lived for that performance. I think we wouldnt have side eyed that half as hard as Vanjie. Plus, it would have given her story arc a nice little bow. I dont know what the hell they had against Plastique.
@sei4play
@sei4play Ай бұрын
@@leonardnimoyrox say it louder for the ppl in the back 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 that top 3 was not part of my fantasy.. i saw roxxxy there but not having plastique & jorgeous there as well is wild
@dobromiradobreva8018
@dobromiradobreva8018 Ай бұрын
In my head Roxxxy was so the winner of this season I didn’t even process who she was in the top 3 with. After she lost I was like: WAIT A DAMN MINUTE?!? Where is my girl Plastique who devoured and delivered?!?!?!?
@Firekitten-lh4vl
@Firekitten-lh4vl Ай бұрын
Honestly in retrospect it's probably a blessing in disguise that Shangela didn’t win All Stars 3😭
@evasyoutubeera
@evasyoutubeera Ай бұрын
lol ya. Its also the reason i dont mind the jury twist any more im so fine watching it now
@kev7600
@kev7600 Ай бұрын
You mean because she rightfully goes to jail for assault and abuse?
@msyokoming6970
@msyokoming6970 Ай бұрын
@@kev7600wait what ??
@roymantic1833
@roymantic1833 Ай бұрын
@@msyokoming6970she has a LOT of SA allegations against her
@Firekitten-lh4vl
@Firekitten-lh4vl Ай бұрын
@evasyoutubeera I watched All Stars 3 right before I found out about everything and I was upset at the jury twist because she had become one of my favorites of all time but I'll probably enjoy it a lot more on a rewatch lol
@sadcatbridge
@sadcatbridge Ай бұрын
Tbh, I think another underrated reason for why the AS4 finale was unwarranted is that they DIDN’T EVEN FILM IT AS A DOUBLE WIN!!! People would still be mad, but the fact that they didn’t even have the foresight to do that made it seem even less satisfying. Especially because we know they had in other seasons, like, why not just film them both winning?! 😭😠
@c.k.8585
@c.k.8585 Ай бұрын
And the audio mixing was so bad EVERYONE could tell it was added after the fact.
@deeb81
@deeb81 Ай бұрын
​@c.k.8585 yeah, it sounded like Ru recorded it in her limo on the phone 😂
@rogelio9225
@rogelio9225 Ай бұрын
The worst part is the queens get the backlash for it, wheter is a bad format or editing, like both Kitty and Kween are becoming so criticized because of how bad the global all stars judging is, and its very sad to see cause they were both so loved on their seasons
@moonstruck1215
@moonstruck1215 Ай бұрын
It's crazy how stupid people can be. They have no mental capacity to think for themselves and let a tv show tell them how to feel. It's so sad and infuriating.
@Riedooo
@Riedooo Ай бұрын
Well they're the WORST PERIOD
@grandmabecky7984
@grandmabecky7984 Ай бұрын
​@@Riedooo no. Sure kitty was a cunt in the sewing challenge. But judging someones character based on a reality show where contestants have to self produce is rather not fair
@bananawell24
@bananawell24 15 күн бұрын
Both Kitty and Kween are bullies 😂
@ColePenner
@ColePenner Ай бұрын
Season 10 finale gave us that ICONIC reaction image of Vanjie and Mo Heart
@Justanothermusicnerdxo
@Justanothermusicnerdxo Ай бұрын
My issue with AS9 is that it has some of the best challenges in modern AS, such as Rusical and Roast, and dare I say the best runways of any drag race season. But the final two episodes and some of the other twists tarnish the season so heavily. They had absolute gold sitting next to the trash heap and it ruined the appeal.
@givemetheloot8026
@givemetheloot8026 Ай бұрын
I completely agree. The queens were DELIVERING every time, but that shit show of a finale ruined everything
@lewiscwalker
@lewiscwalker Ай бұрын
A part of me always thinks that because Bang Bang was the final lipsync song for S10 they always intended to have a top 3 lipsync. It just so happened that Aquaria did massively lose her lipsync against Eureka based on audience tea (her slipping etc which was edited out).
@oscart1375
@oscart1375 Ай бұрын
Id assume they probably wanted the final lipsync to be aquaria/eureka/asia but then they couldnt justify asia moving on after the butterflies happened
@laincoubert7236
@laincoubert7236 Ай бұрын
i still wanna see monet's lipsync unedited / uncut cause i just KNOW that she TORE that up! like it's a situation where the DA gives the song more life than it even deserves lmao, now that's talent 😅
@sunnygolightly9996
@sunnygolightly9996 Ай бұрын
I cannot WAIT for your The Riggory of Global All Stars video, it's gonna be a LOOONG one.
@rrachelbaldwinn
@rrachelbaldwinn Ай бұрын
earlier than kennedy saying “milk”
@seank1033
@seank1033 Ай бұрын
Roxxxy should have won. She has the legacy, she had the storyline, she had the editing, she had the wins... Angeria is great, but I'm sorry, Roxxxy deserved that win. I'm tired of them bringing back true legends only to have them cast aside in favor of a new young queen. Shannel was robbed too. That talent show was HERS. Too often, the judging on this show is trash, and if they're gonna keep screwing over deserving contestants, then they really need to just put a cap on how many times you can compete. Or, seasoned queens need to just stop coming back.
@gabe1900
@gabe1900 Ай бұрын
Wild that AS8 is not here. Sure, the season as a whole was rigged from the jump, but the penultimate episode revealing that the final episode wouldn't be a top 3, and the finale revealing that the 2 finalists were going to have their own number so that Jimbo wouldn't have to dance next to Kandy Muse and Jessica Wild... PURE RIGGOTRY right in front of us.
@whosthatpanda7935
@whosthatpanda7935 Ай бұрын
I actually loved the Final 2 twist, it was original and unexpected
@godrickstockwell1505
@godrickstockwell1505 25 күн бұрын
That whole season was weighed so hard for Jimbo. I can't imagine being a member of production, seeing how bad Jimbo is at lip syncs, and having to figure out how to make her win look legit. Love her or hate her Kandy Muse can turn a song out
@RonnieStewartJr
@RonnieStewartJr Ай бұрын
Nymphia and Sapphira should have been a double crowning, but the original reception to the AS4 twinners (I think) tanked any chances of another double crowning.
@givemetheloot8026
@givemetheloot8026 Ай бұрын
They were both such deserving queens, and Sapphira is in my opinion THE STRONGEST runner up we’ve ever seen
@sondheimravel
@sondheimravel Ай бұрын
Just like KZbin user U has stated before, I believe that Manila and Latrice were production’s picks for the crown for as4, and when those plans got disrupted they had to scramble to replace them. thus what we got
@baniboo
@baniboo Ай бұрын
hate double crownings..
@taste_the_rainbow312
@taste_the_rainbow312 Ай бұрын
Season 16 was the only season I was okay with a double crowning 😔
@johnnybaxter8078
@johnnybaxter8078 Ай бұрын
@@sondheimravel That theory is easily disproven as they did not even film a double crowning for that season.
@irumafanboy
@irumafanboy Ай бұрын
i can’t wait for you to talk about global all stars they aren’t trying to hide the heinous favoritism atp and the diabolical edit must be talked about
@heyitscj7726
@heyitscj7726 Ай бұрын
The porn bots aren’t even trying at this point
@linikedemarco
@linikedemarco Ай бұрын
They really said "too much riggory going on, there's no room for my pvssy in bio"
@left2rightanimations561
@left2rightanimations561 Ай бұрын
when i woke up and saw angeria had won the season, it made full sense to me. but when i actually watched the final episode, i was so sooo confused as to how she had the most non-talent talent show (and won), and then had the worst lipsync in the finale (and won).
@hotaruuruki8045
@hotaruuruki8045 Ай бұрын
Now that we know Shangela's horrible, I'm super glad that Trixie won.
@geckohunter123
@geckohunter123 Ай бұрын
Surprised there’s no mention of AS8 Top 2 fiasco. Not to mention the whole “and the winner of the fame games is the queen with the worst runway package and predictably biggest bonus.” 😂
@bugginonthewall
@bugginonthewall Ай бұрын
matpat found snatched bald
@baniboo
@baniboo Ай бұрын
lmao
@maximeminassian6002
@maximeminassian6002 Ай бұрын
I would add All Stars 8 to this list. The way they tried so hard to sabotage Kandy to make her look like a flop to justify crowning Jimbo was just disgusting
@jasperwellington11
@jasperwellington11 Ай бұрын
Right! They literally didn't have to do that. Jimbo's track record and her entire body of work spike for itself. They just didn't like Kandi.
@elsteel6270
@elsteel6270 Ай бұрын
I think because they got rid of Jessica just before the finale also made Kandy hated by fans. It should’ve been a top 3 🤷🏻‍♀️
@grandmabecky7984
@grandmabecky7984 Ай бұрын
They knew that fans didn't like kandy and constantly in tried to use that
@saveourskinship5011
@saveourskinship5011 Ай бұрын
Amazing video! Love your ability to succinctly analyse this show, I now watch all reality TV with a Derek-lens. I love how you are able to fairly and honestly critique the show while still having such a fun and passionate love for it. I always look forward to your videos and I hope you are having a lovely day!
@mathewk6026
@mathewk6026 Ай бұрын
Yes! Love a drag detective video
@laurenschultz1389
@laurenschultz1389 Ай бұрын
so excited for your global all stars video and will be listening to that pod! global all stars is truly like rotting my brain and every episode i just fall in love with so many international queens
@wastingsun
@wastingsun Ай бұрын
I'm here faster than the expectation of Shangela winning AS3 flew out the door when the jury twist was revealed
@givemetheloot8026
@givemetheloot8026 Ай бұрын
Did you know that Gia Gunn opened that door?
@gstvgs
@gstvgs Ай бұрын
i wanted roxxxy to win as9 so bad but the person they did the dirtiest was definetly plastique. the craziest most expensive package EVER, 4 wins, top2 worthy talent show and still getting cut at the finale just because production wanted to. i would've burn wow studios down
@c.k.8585
@c.k.8585 Ай бұрын
She flubbed every single lip sync and badly. That should count for something.
@Dew-Dragon
@Dew-Dragon Ай бұрын
We haven't had a unrigging (instert season) in 3 months pls feed us 😞
@rorywalsh9390
@rorywalsh9390 Ай бұрын
My life depends on seeing all stars 9 unrigged
@maximeminassian6002
@maximeminassian6002 Ай бұрын
I’m expecting one really soon for global all stars because oh girl she’s a mess
@mistee2193
@mistee2193 Ай бұрын
@@maximeminassian6002 Drag Detective gonna need some xanax and alcohol for that one
@KAlkfellor
@KAlkfellor Ай бұрын
@@maximeminassian6002that’s gonna be a two hour special
@buddyyyy
@buddyyyy Ай бұрын
​@@maximeminassian6002 that video is going to have all of the original placements in red ☠️
@ShadowandKirby324
@ShadowandKirby324 Ай бұрын
I was frustrated with All Stars 8 tbh. Just the drama that surrounded Kandy and Jimbo made me not hold the season's finale in high regard. I mean it just felt haphazardly messy with all of the tea that was spilled at Roscoe's and post season interviews, especially the one where Kandy was literally sabotaged from winning, it frustrated me. Don't get me wrong, Jimbo is incredible TV, and while it was basically her season to win after the chaos of UK vs the World 1, it just felt like a weird finale. If you asked me, All Stars 8 should've introduced the Canada's Drag Race twist instead of using the lipstick twist. That would've made the season way better than it turned out imo.
@heymistercarter.
@heymistercarter. Ай бұрын
Drag Race UK Season 3 could also go on here. You have Ella Vaday, who dominated the majority of the season and who never landed in the bottom, and Kitty Scott-Claus, who had a slower rise but a solid track record and ALSO never landed in the bottom… and Krystal Versace, who started very strong but fumbled a few times through the season and had the weakest track record of the three, was the winner in the end. It was clear she was RuPaul’s favorite in the season, as she was saved on a few instances, given the first “Born To Do Drag” speech (after she tanked on Snatch Game and was saved from the bottom), given a questionable challenge win in Episode 2, and got a quasi-villain edit a few times. I mean, objectively she did the best in the finale (especially since her biggest competition, Ella, apparently injured her back and couldn’t do much). And I will say, Krystal is a talented DA, and I wish her the best. It just felt like a case of crowning the girl who was RuPaul’s favorite from the jump, no matter what happened through the season.
@c.k.8585
@c.k.8585 Ай бұрын
See, if Ella had not messed up the last 15 minutes of that episode so badly, I'd be angry at the show for not letting her win cause she did the best in the season by a wide margin. And Krystal won her way to that finale. All three of her lip syncs were exceptional. Kitty I just could not see winning. Everything Kitty did in the Season, Ella did better with vastly less drag experience.
@johnnybaxter8078
@johnnybaxter8078 Ай бұрын
@@c.k.8585 except Ella won half of her challenges by default basically. The best in the GG was clearly River, but Ru made her share her win with everyone. And then for the acting challenge, Kitty was obviously better but they twisted it into a top 2, and then Kitty did better on the lipsync but they still had a tie between her and Ella. So you could say Ella won by her own merits only 2 of her wins.
@apoloartemis9038
@apoloartemis9038 Ай бұрын
@@c.k.8585thank god Krystal won, she had the most winner energy of them and was robbed from winning the ball
@lizabarbour826
@lizabarbour826 Ай бұрын
Yes that final was a mess. The poorest of the uk ones so far.
@justeapodcast
@justeapodcast Ай бұрын
I feel bad truly though because Angeria ATE every week
@cameronmoore2668
@cameronmoore2668 Ай бұрын
The fact the list includes almost every season of all stars is very telling
@jeremias8650
@jeremias8650 Ай бұрын
thank you so so so much for mentioning as7. the riggory in that finale was astronomical. they really played in monet’s face
@Keykatriz
@Keykatriz Ай бұрын
Drag Race just has weak finales for some reason...I feel like the real sweet spot of seasons is like episodes 3 to whenever they get to a top 5. To be honest, when I rewatch seasons a lot of times I just won't watch the finale, I already know who wins obviously and there's so much filler, they're not super interesting, and I hate all the sappy stuff, especially when Ru is involved since he just comes off way more manipulative than empathetic. I think I may have never even seen the season 13 finale because the winner was spoiled for me by Drag Race's FB page and I heard the actual episode was bad lol! So excited for more Drag Duel!
@aaronalejandro6480
@aaronalejandro6480 Ай бұрын
I have this theory that the All Stars 3 jury format was all created after Bendela eliminated herself for production to wash their hands and avoid the responsibility to choose who to crown after all.
@wholahaywhatdahell
@wholahaywhatdahell Ай бұрын
That’s an insanely silly theory considering all the queens were kept in LA prior to Dela quitting. It was put in place to eliminate the front runner as a gag, which is why production was fine making Dela such the obvious front runner prior to quitting.
@claudionosotti8812
@claudionosotti8812 Ай бұрын
Drag Race Italia s1 is pretty infamous for Elecktra Bionic, the first ever winner who had never won a maxy challenge, always placing safe during the season but then snatching the crown from Farida Kant, who had 2 wins and never placed below safe. That pretty much was the cherry on top of a very messy season (unfortunately italian production teams were not seeing drag race as a format to follow but just as another show to twist into the very trashy way we do reality tv here) and it alienated a huge part of the fanbase. Thx god s2 and 3 were miles better and now Nehellenia is winning over ppl hearts, even tho s3 could also be on the list bc ppl were fully expecting Melissa Bianchini to win, but this time at least Lina Galore had a very close track record and her win was totally understandable and deserved.
@silviosorbera4385
@silviosorbera4385 Ай бұрын
Elecktra was robbed of at least one win + there were like 6 episodes, not winning a challenge was not so absurd as a 10 episodes season. Cut the bs
@claudionosotti8812
@claudionosotti8812 Ай бұрын
@@silviosorbera4385 I'm not saying she wasn't deserving, just that fans were not happy about it, which is the topic of the video. I love Elecktra, she's a fierce queen and she deserved to be rewarded more during the season, but her winning over Farida on top of a rough season is what pushed so many fans away from the Italia franchise and that's a fact.
@silviosorbera4385
@silviosorbera4385 Ай бұрын
@@claudionosotti8812 facts? Italian fans were much happier with elecktra, she was fan favorite. The problem was not the winner, but the judging and ESPECIALLY the production. That was the real problem for people, and THESE are facts
@claudionosotti8812
@claudionosotti8812 Ай бұрын
@@silviosorbera4385 Dude, first of all, chill the f down, then maybe you will see we're on the same page about it, and that i'm talking about the global fandom and not the italian fans when i say the decision alienated a huge portion of it. And the decision is made by the PRODUCTION, that was not up for debate lmao I was not blaming Elecktra for it
@silviosorbera4385
@silviosorbera4385 Ай бұрын
@@claudionosotti8812 we're f not on the same page. Can you read? Jesus why I'm talking with you. Bye
@CASantos
@CASantos Ай бұрын
Re: AS7, I just don't get how they don't see this when casting...? Like you're casting Monet, Yvie... if you don't want to crown them, why the FUCK would you let there be an advertised "lipsync for the crown"???? Very easy fix, just make all finales like a pageant. Solo lipsync performance to a full song, runway ball (3 themed looks), speech/interview about why they should win or what it would mean for the world and/or the franchise. Then the judges deliberate, and "based on your performances tonight, as well as throughout the season, [blah blah]" 😂 that would dead so much of the criticism. Edit: they could even work the lipsync gauntlet *in*, but just have it not result in eliminations and instead be "just another thing" that gives points during the finale. The ball could be interspersed throughout, so: - Runway Category 1 - Interview/Speeches - Brief filler while they change... - Lipsync Smackdown - Runway Category 2 - Filler 2 while they prep for... - Solo Numbers - Congeniality - Runway Category 3 ("finale eleganza"/crowning looks) - Crowning (they could even score them so who know who's 4th, 3rd, and then announce the winner).
@hannahbanana8393
@hannahbanana8393 Ай бұрын
You uploaded this right on time for my drive to work💕💕 love your videos
@Jayforeman3047
@Jayforeman3047 Ай бұрын
I seldom watch a finale these days because they’re either so predictable or too cringe.
@JesusP7
@JesusP7 Ай бұрын
True, I just skip to the final 5 minutes to check who won. Because I know it will be filled with riggory, so why bother watch it.
@drevynbrown
@drevynbrown Ай бұрын
I absolutely love Angie but legit I gagged by the finale episode cause at a point it’s like if u wanted them to win give them something they do. Like we know jinx is a bad lipsyncer on drag race but they give her a lip sync for the crown . Legit they could’ve did an early season format of the finales and I would’ve been fine with it. For me it’s like idc if you’re rigging it but at least give the queens the opportunity or make it make sense with the season ns.
@GabriellaHartman
@GabriellaHartman Ай бұрын
I was really hoping they’d keep the season 8 format with the songs made for them, it was one of my favourite finales
@eddos8303
@eddos8303 Ай бұрын
I'm sorry. But the Intro absolutely EATS
@lskildum7829
@lskildum7829 Ай бұрын
I understand not wanting to revisit AS9... But at least revisit Plastique's Runways. That is a level of drag we may never see again, and is the single saving grace of that season
@UtterQueerNightmare
@UtterQueerNightmare Ай бұрын
Y'know what I miss? The custom songs. I think it was only seasons 7 and 8, where each finalist would lipsynch to a song that was written specifically for them. It'd have their vibe, reference fun moments from the rest of the season, but there was no pressure over having to beat another queen in direct competition. We just got to see each queen be good at her job, which is something I think we all love to see
@sagecorduroy
@sagecorduroy Ай бұрын
girl you cannot take one look at those golliwog dolls and think that karen loved them out of ignorance be for real
@johnsmith2875
@johnsmith2875 Ай бұрын
Those dolls are so unsettling.
@airamzul-qc2fw
@airamzul-qc2fw Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing the name. Looked them up and I definitely question if it was “ignorance”
@LucasLima-sb6cp
@LucasLima-sb6cp Ай бұрын
Girl by the looks of it so far Global will be here too 😭
@vitor8048
@vitor8048 Ай бұрын
To this day I find crazy that people say that Jinkx fucking Monsoon stole a crown from Monet (who, no shade to her, shouldn't even be there).
@kitsunekarli3548
@kitsunekarli3548 Ай бұрын
I hate when people say that Trixie lost the lipsync when like...Kennedy flipped all over the place in the back for most of what we see of wrecking ball. If anything, she won by Default cause it's called a LIPSYNC for the crown. Not FLIP ALL OVER THE STAGE for the crown. I genuinely can't believe people think Trixie "lost" the lipsync when her opponent literally didn't even lipsync...
@anavictorianormie
@anavictorianormie Ай бұрын
Finally someone understands what I mean about AS7 finale. There's absolutely no way you can justify Jinkx winning without that WhatsApp voicemail of RuPaul changing the rules last second. Even with that AWFUL edit, we could see how Monét was KEELLING the lipsync. Lipsynching is Drag 101, there's no way you can get away with this, but we're talking about a season with winners and we know not all of them are great lip synchers. If they did just a pointing system, it would be fine (of course, without the extra stars on the talent show - or maybe with extra stars on Snatch Game too). And maybe in case of a tie you put them to lipsync - but not a song you know Monét is going to make a carnage on stage, there are plenty of other Yma Sumac music, or maybe Florence + the Machine, Radiohead, I don't know. If you're going to rig the finale, at least do it right. Put on the focus on the winner and put clips of RuPaul not reacting to the gags the other queen is doing, like they did to Yvie. But don't make them Lip Sync for the Crown and all of the sudden make their performance throughout the competition matter more.
@claudionosotti8812
@claudionosotti8812 Ай бұрын
"absolutely no way" except the fact Jinkx had the most win and the best overall track record and to place the entire season on a single lipsync is stupid bc what is the point of the season then? They should just retire the top4 lipsync smackdown format tbh it's been years and too many seasons trying to recreate what sasha velour did and no one ever came even remotely close to justify doing it again and again.
@c.k.8585
@c.k.8585 Ай бұрын
@@claudionosotti8812 Imo what should have been done is, lip sync smackdown should be an episode. For each lip sync you win, you get a star. That way you could easily end up with Monet getting 3 stars and then Yvie or Shea and I guess Raja or Jaida getting 2, 1 , 1 each. Then do the talent show at the end and cheat there. Also if you count both highs and wins, Jinkx doesn't actually have the best track record. Yes she won 5 episodes but every other episode she was safe. Monet won three but was high for four more. Trinity won four and was high for two more. Two highs should count at least as much as one win imo.The thing is, the Queens did not even know who the two high placements were cause we only saw them in the final edit.
@PrisonHoney96
@PrisonHoney96 Ай бұрын
Manila shouldn’t have even been in the bottom for the makeover challenge, and I feel like I don’t ever see anyone say this. Monet’s makeover was crazy, even Monique clocked it in the episode, and 1000% should have been in the bottom with Latrice. Manila’s looks were safe but it was definitely family resemblance passable enough to get her to the low position. The judging that episode has always been insane to me. However, in retrospect, Monet is such an icon and we wouldn’t have had her on AS7 without that buffoonery so idk if I’d change anything or not 😂
@AnRuixuan
@AnRuixuan Ай бұрын
In the category of "Finale that had a Top 4 lipsync for the crown where the two best performing queens of the season (by a lot) got suspiciously cut before the final lipsync" you could put UK v The World Season 2. Who actually won the Hannah vs Marina and Tia vs LGD lipsyncs can be controversial because there's definitely not a clear consensus, but it still was wild to watch.
@hojokarens
@hojokarens Ай бұрын
lgd was definetely not one of the two best performing queens of the seasons lmao, she literally has the worst track record out of the top 4 (although i do think she won the lipsync against tia)
@DiegoSinclair1820
@DiegoSinclair1820 Ай бұрын
I would rightly add the AS8 final, which was... A disaster. They decided to make a final with the top 2 performing original songs, the problem was that neither of them were performers and the songs were bad, the queen who would have annihilate that format was sent home at top 3 giving us a final in which nothing interesting happens, everything was too obvious. The winner of the crown and the winner of the Fame Games could have been seen from a mile away, disappointing is a misunderstanding.
@meccalovett4616
@meccalovett4616 Ай бұрын
11:40 What do you do? Crown the person that slayed the finale, and edit the season to better fit them and build up their story arc. Track records aside (which are already dubious at best), it's still a competition. If you do poorly one week, then you go home. This should include the finale as well. To me it adds more stakes, because it's literally anyone's game at that point, and the frontrunner can't get too comfortable. I'll take a winner that didn't necessarily do the best during the competition but slayed the finale, over a winner that had to be pushed just because they had the "better track record". It'll be the finale I remember the most since it's the last episode anyway.
@meccalovett4616
@meccalovett4616 Ай бұрын
Also another frustrating finale is Canada's Drag Race season 4. Phenomenal season, but wtf was that finale song the queens had to do for the verse challenge when Nelly Furtado was right there? I mean I don't think she's a producer or anything, but damn they could've done something that was reminiscent of her music.
@CyberJawa1986
@CyberJawa1986 Ай бұрын
The one thing I’ll add about things like the ruby snippers and golden plunger. I think I’m going more in an All Stars tangent but Have those actually create some stakes if you’re doing something like that. Instead of blocking points which in the end don’t matter when they’ve introduced so many “win a bunch of badges/stars” at the end of the season challenge. But have the queens on the receiving end of the snippers/plunger be unable to compete in the next challenge. You got the plunger/snippers, you’re out of the challenge meaning you can’t earn badges or stars but as a formality you can stomp the runway.
@Wolfstar26
@Wolfstar26 Ай бұрын
SO EXCITED FOR DRAG DUEL SEASON 2
@Archie.simps.x
@Archie.simps.x Ай бұрын
Girl the unrigging of global all stars video is gonna be crazy 😂
@Goldenrod636
@Goldenrod636 Ай бұрын
Love this video as do I love every video that you post because they are just so good. But I really need to see you unrig All Stars 9. Screw what all the haters say.
@arsonvamp
@arsonvamp Ай бұрын
6:15 i mean, that’s pretty much how russell hantz played survivor every season he was on with his complete lack of a social game lmao
@hommefataltaemin
@hommefataltaemin Ай бұрын
Right!! I’m not a fan of bitter juries, but he deserved to lose purely due to how unnecessarily cruel he was. He made great tv but gosh he kinda sucks as a human being,(a lot of the stuff he’s said outside of the show is just awful) lol, and his jury management was such ass. Its one thing to play a game focused on blindsides like Tony or Sarah, but I’m not even joking when I say Russell went out of his way to be extremely rude and cruel to people when there was absolutely zero benefit except to stroke his own ego.
@Dramallamastrikesagain
@Dramallamastrikesagain Ай бұрын
Drag Detective, I cannot wait for the Riggory of Global All Stars!
@personwhoexists-dv1re
@personwhoexists-dv1re Ай бұрын
Kita and Art deserved better. Would love to see them again in All Stars/VS The World.
@sladkiebulki
@sladkiebulki Ай бұрын
UK vs the World 2 finale is insane as well. Not Marina Summers slaying the whole season and killing all the lip-sinks send off in a first round. Still such a gag and disappointment from production, just because they new Tia would’ve not out perform her
@daviduberhaus5336
@daviduberhaus5336 Ай бұрын
They chose camp over talent
@keroroplatoon3216
@keroroplatoon3216 Ай бұрын
I’m in such a minority where I think not only should Trixie have been top 2 on All Stars 3 to begin with (alongside Shangela), but I also think she was better than Kennedy in the lip sync 😭😭
@jebooiii6462
@jebooiii6462 Ай бұрын
Are you really a minority here? I was under the impression that this was the consensus
@keroroplatoon3216
@keroroplatoon3216 Ай бұрын
@jebooiii6462 I dunno, in the drag space I occupy, I hear a lot of how Kennedy mopped Trixie in the final lip sync but I honestly didn’t like Kennedy’s interpretation of Wrecking Ball. Maybe I’m just in an echo chamber and I DO have the majority opinion, idk.
@jebooiii6462
@jebooiii6462 Ай бұрын
@@keroroplatoon3216 yeah I agree. I think the song was too slow and dramatic for her stunts
@myroyalart9246
@myroyalart9246 Ай бұрын
I do believe the top two should have been Bebe and Shangela, but Trixie did better in the lipsync
@c1pherx
@c1pherx Ай бұрын
Kennedy is kinda bland
@emmymatt
@emmymatt Ай бұрын
Yassss Derek gonna devour right now
@TheBridgeStarNL
@TheBridgeStarNL Ай бұрын
Season 13's finale also let the fans down immensely, just failed at making the top four look like the talented stars that they all are
@TheRedcat14
@TheRedcat14 Ай бұрын
8:45 spottttt on
@no-gc3lo
@no-gc3lo Ай бұрын
something I thought was kinda weird about as9 is if they wanted vanjie in the top 3 so much, why did they not give her some wins where she deserved them?? I really thought she should have won episode 1 (ik not everyone agrees but they definitely could have given her the win) and she DEFINITELY should have won the rusical just in my opinion. we all know she's hilarious, but vanjie is a super talented queen I wish they could have highlighted her properly in the challenges :(
@murilop.423
@murilop.423 Ай бұрын
High key, superqueen is my favorite finale song. I cant describe how I love it
@BulbaAdam1553
@BulbaAdam1553 Ай бұрын
AS4’s finale was made worse by the fact they hadn’t filmed a double crowning and cut it together in post, for sure. (AS3 and other seasons have had double crowning options filmed.) I think there was also a push from fans to have a non-blonde-and-white queen in the Hall of Fame after four seasons.
@cazzabojangles
@cazzabojangles Ай бұрын
The best person in the season 10 finale was Mo 👀
@BeckyBookClubMain
@BeckyBookClubMain Ай бұрын
HOW?!
@cazzabojangles
@cazzabojangles Ай бұрын
@@BeckyBookClubMain Who else did you think? Kameron fading into the background? Aquaria being dragged to the final lipsync? Asia and the butterflies? Or Eureka doing the 100th high kick in a row? No, it's Mo's reaction in the crowd for me
@BeckyBookClubMain
@BeckyBookClubMain Ай бұрын
@@cazzabojangles I was thinking Kelly Mantel.
@cazzabojangles
@cazzabojangles Ай бұрын
@@BeckyBookClubMain Fair enough
@kev7600
@kev7600 Ай бұрын
It was Ongina desperately trying to deliver one good lipsync.
@reagangulley2104
@reagangulley2104 Ай бұрын
Idk this rate Global all stars may be most disappointing finale .. since ru loves the girls she’s judged already
@georgearmitage7804
@georgearmitage7804 Ай бұрын
Now what we need is a full video on the robbery of Meta Morkid
@chloesevigni
@chloesevigni Ай бұрын
this GAS finale w alyssa will be really frustating
@dinosaursaurus4137
@dinosaursaurus4137 Ай бұрын
Off the bat without thinking about it too much, I'd say season 11 also had a frustrating finale, but after going through the video it just hit me "no this is just a frustrating season"
@mandreja9062
@mandreja9062 Ай бұрын
kinda love how all 3 of Monét's seasons were in this video
@mewsso
@mewsso Ай бұрын
Can we add Canada Season 3 because them snubbing both kimmy couture and miss fierce was crazy 😭
@kev7600
@kev7600 Ай бұрын
And they kept the one who did the picnic plate Runway for whatever reason.
@xviolaa
@xviolaa Ай бұрын
Gisele was the right winner overall but either of those 2 would’ve made for a better runner up than Jada
@Kira-yv3xd
@Kira-yv3xd Ай бұрын
This is so true
@thejesscen
@thejesscen Ай бұрын
Bebe may have had a good track record on AS3 but it was 100% riggory that got her there. If she hadn’t been a winner of a previous season, she wouldn’t have made it so far. There’s a reason she was never in the bottom…
@nairbdelrey1561
@nairbdelrey1561 Ай бұрын
Personally I was so ok with Shangela losing
@DaniKuruKuru
@DaniKuruKuru Ай бұрын
Loved your video!!!
@MyKeyMoonShine
@MyKeyMoonShine Ай бұрын
Down Under season 1 had Electra shock, it had Anita, Maxi, Coco, Jojo and Etcetera. All very compelling queens they could have made a great season focusing on more. I think the problem is they decided that people would care most about the more famous, more polished queens on the cast and nobody else. Electra had an underdog storyline and Anita had that one moment but that was it, most of those queens got very little. Luckily season two pivoted and didn't stop an amazingly talented queen from slaying the comp and winning just because she had crunchy drag.
@RubBH
@RubBH Ай бұрын
I think they just wanted a kiwi queen be in the finals so they will have a representative. But just as a doll, not for winning. Like hey, also one New Zealander girl is in the final. But with all that happened, she's been the most "clean" and no backlash . So, yeah, I guess we will crown her and move on
@LucyLu_meztli
@LucyLu_meztli Ай бұрын
0:50 This is exactly what I need❣️❣️❣️ Thank you Derek 🙏
@PandaNFriends23
@PandaNFriends23 Ай бұрын
Are the editors not getting paid enough? Pay the editors enough and give them enough mental health days of rest. We want good television please.
@bigbadbrownybadger
@bigbadbrownybadger Ай бұрын
I always felt like Eureka and Aquaria were both safe was because Asia so clearly bombed from the butterfly fiasco. Like that Ike didn’t count.
@milkenwood6150
@milkenwood6150 Ай бұрын
drag race germany s1. meta was doing so great, slaying the whole season, slaying the finale, absolutely eating up the lipsync. and it totally looked like they were gonna win with the way the lipsync was edited, the reveal and emotional confessional. and then they crowned pandora... i love pandora and she did do great, but it was so frustrating.
@syfwpokoju6822
@syfwpokoju6822 Ай бұрын
omg I need to defense Trixie XDDD she win that lps, Kennedy was doing circus stuff on background(again). I Love her, but Trixie was better for me :D
@vinicius-jy6cx
@vinicius-jy6cx Ай бұрын
drag race has stopped making good finales for quite a time, it’s rare that the franchise has a finale that isn’t hard to watch
@artomapoan2338
@artomapoan2338 Ай бұрын
There are way more frustrating finales, than all stars 7 and 9. Seasons 13 and 14 for example or all stars 8. Also, what was frustrating in season 10. Aquarias win made sense as she was the only right choice there. So...out of 6 finales, only 3 cases which made sense in order to call finales frustrating (All stars 3 and 4 and down under). And yes, All stars 4 is the worst season in all stars history, mind you.
@brando2233
@brando2233 Ай бұрын
Espana 3 and Espana All Stars were frustrating full seasons. My partner and I are in the same boat as you about AS9. We don’t ever want to rewatch it or even discuss it, and we do that for most seasons all the time! Drag Race has been getting so brazen with their predetermined outcomes and it’s killing my enjoyment of newer seasons. Lately, it’s either that or the edit doesn’t support the outcome they choose and it doesn’t make sense.
@AsnowmanfromCanada
@AsnowmanfromCanada Ай бұрын
My theory with Asia's butterflies is that they were frozen from the coldness of the room and when Asia was about to release them, they were slowly thawing, hence why they didn't fly. Either this, or they flat out died
@jessebeeson29
@jessebeeson29 Ай бұрын
I cant remember who said it, but i remember on twitter someone saying "it feels like since s16, the producers have been crowning the more confusing choice in response to the fandom saying that its becoming to easy to figure out the winner". Love Nymphia and Angie tho ❤❤
@Jayforeman3047
@Jayforeman3047 Ай бұрын
I genuinely still believe that there was so much hype behind Karen from Finance all because of that video where Trixie says her name. There was no proof in the pudding before the producers decided that she was going to make it to the end.
@TheBridgeStarNL
@TheBridgeStarNL Ай бұрын
Let's also not forget that besides Shangela and Bebe being robbed, even Kennedy was robbed because (with the stupid twist) she made her way to the top 2 and slayed the lipsync as hard as she couls but she still didn't get her flowers and everyone was just sour
@so_esty
@so_esty Ай бұрын
great video, but WHERE IS YOUR SHIRT FROM IT'S SO CUTE!!
@geenalawrence8338
@geenalawrence8338 Ай бұрын
We’ve had many bad finales over the years but AS9 is truly on a league of its own… LOVE Angeria but there were *many* better talent shows and she was by far the worst in the finale lipsync.
@iitsnoee
@iitsnoee Ай бұрын
as much as i love Elecktra Bionic, her win was undeserved: on Italia 1 there was Farida Kant, who slayed the season, won 2 of the 5 challenges but was forgettable in the finale, while Elecktra was the best (besides maybe Luquisha who had a very bumpy ride to the finale); problem comes when Elecktra never won a challenge and still got the crown…
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