Im just loving how these young youtubers getting on here and educating the world. What a positive way to do social media
@kabirsinghsardar78932 жыл бұрын
hopefully they speak the truth and not made up history like most on SM
@kabirsinghsardar78932 жыл бұрын
@Shocka Zoolander I got love for you, I hope you don't take what I say badly, i just think you have a point and could get it out to the point but that's just me G. keep going for your goal and we can always talk about things I don't mind. and I wanna say again you have good points, try to not dilute things so much, you have the power to make the change. Believe, love and Happiness always :)
@kabirsinghsardar78932 жыл бұрын
@Shocka Zoolander awoman sister, peace and love :)
@aleyahmalone50122 жыл бұрын
As long as they do their research well
@steamfox68772 жыл бұрын
Is that right? How old are you?
@garrettc84902 жыл бұрын
I'm a 66 YO Black man. My grandfather was a devoted follower of Father Devine. I visited Father Devine's beautiful estate several times with my grandfather as a young child. I carried a picture of Father and Mother Devine in my wallet through out my early 20's. My grandfather never explained to me who and what Father Devine represented. However, my grandfather was such a strong fixture in my life that I accepted his beliefs, no questions ask. My grandfather lived to be in his late 90's. He was an intelligent black man who headed a loving and successful family.
@toniward21822 жыл бұрын
@@jackb1969 … Father Devine promoted White Supremacy
@toniward21822 жыл бұрын
How does one RENOUNCE RACE… SCHIZOPHRENIA !…. That’s how.
@thisisrareform2 жыл бұрын
@@jackb1969 they don't know the difference
@tgirl17622 жыл бұрын
@@jackb1969 I was going to say the same thing how was he a follower if he didn't follow all of his teachings like abstinence?😂
@romae61822 жыл бұрын
@@toniward2182 I disagree. Race is actually a social construct. It didn’t always exist and it can be renounced but we’re all too brainwashed.
@perfectpeterpan2 жыл бұрын
I love how quiet and straight to the detail your video is. No inconsiderate music in the background or dramatic animated expressions. This allows a wider audience to be able to stand your video.
@darealmccoi97802 жыл бұрын
100 agree! Well said
@murtithinker76602 жыл бұрын
You vibe like myself. I hate animations or video memes showing all sorts of people except the person the video is actually about. Background music too can be annoyingly distracting.
@wyattspears89222 жыл бұрын
What a waste of KZbin airtime blah blah blah a nothingburger
@cw24242 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree 💯
@willitadoh62442 жыл бұрын
And YES you’re RIGHT 👏👏👏RAW🇩🇪💪💪💪👌Lovely,educative Exposé👏👏👏❤️
@lisaspikes42912 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it a tragedy that when someone comes up with a good idea, like peace, and integration, it always gets perverted into a crazy cult? If only there would be a group that does all the good things, but doesn’t demand crazy things from the members and doesn’t become corrupt.
@Artliker12342 жыл бұрын
Human beings are evil in their essence
@budellababy2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand it either...
@Arguewityamama2 жыл бұрын
I blame the fact that so many who claim to be about “peace” and “Justice” always end up being crooks… look up Jim Jones for reference
@gloriadeyemi2 жыл бұрын
If he was white, we would have known about him and studied him
@ricanredru47602 жыл бұрын
@@gloriadeyemi you just answered your own question. People know virtually nothing about this father divine and yet the biggest irony is Jim Jones himself was an early admirer and follow her of his philosophy until he appropriated for his own devilish purposes. People forgot about father Divine but yet people remember the notorious Jim Jones
@DimplesDontLie2 жыл бұрын
i really need everyone black to spread this, teach your kids.. it's no accident he's omitted from history texts. and if we let it, the history will be erased.. i can only imagine how many other things haven't been told to us
@louhortonsculpture2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if it wasn’t for KZbin, I would know this! And I’ve been following podcasts and KZbinrs with cult content for several years.
@damc84152 жыл бұрын
"Father Devine" was no Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X or Martin Luther King. So, don't drink that poisoned Kool-Aid.
@roleat2 жыл бұрын
99.9% of history is lost intentionally
@christineperez75622 жыл бұрын
You have to go to the library and read books and do research.
@SunflowerVibe3292 жыл бұрын
I just asked my Grandmom who will be 90 in December if she remembers this ... She told me the ate dinner at his restaurant for 15 cent and at his barber shops the hair cuts were 10 center . She told me that she learned how to sew at one of his programs
@ivanawilliams2792 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this and my mother face called me rite now and I asked if she heard of him and she's telling me exactly what is being said by the young lady, interesting. My momma actually ate there all the time!!!! She didn't join, she actually gave him much credit for helping others and encouraging them to do the same. It's interesting how he knew my great grandfather and they talked all the time!!!! I probably would have never known unless I wouldn't have come across this interesting video.
@cdub27512 жыл бұрын
Wow! Whats the odds?👍🏾👍🏾
@MikeJones-rm8xm2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Philly and they still have buildings here. My dad told me stories of how he ate there because they had meals that were extremely cheap.
@larronbuchanan16772 жыл бұрын
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@leslieglenn50672 жыл бұрын
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@murtithinker76602 жыл бұрын
Now a man can't succeed in starting such a movement because they would send a woman to seduce the man and create scandals about the encounter, whether he is married or not.
@rileyboy662 жыл бұрын
I have been watching cult documentaries for years and have never even heard of this man! Thank you for bringing this story to the world!
@tyson345lion4 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJS4l6mritGpjZI this is one of his speeches if you are curious
@runoz2839 Жыл бұрын
SERIOUSLY... Wow. You ever seen, Car Wash ? this is who Richard Pryor character was based off of
@davidklott8050Ай бұрын
Same here
@83wasagoodyear2 жыл бұрын
My family is deeply rooted in the Peace Mission. Father Divine bought my great grandparents a mansion in Newark back in the day. I've been to many banquets.
@Hborn5 ай бұрын
What street
@frostempress41762 жыл бұрын
This is my first time hearing of this cult but as for Jim jones…He took away two aunts I never got the chance to meet,I have no words for him but as for others I hope they don’t get pulled into these types of things anymore.Also this was well put together I like your content❤
@milimdestroyer90582 жыл бұрын
I have watch many times jim jones tragedy in from Philippines Godbless and always Pray for your aunt peace.and evryone who died and the children.
@frostempress41762 жыл бұрын
@@milimdestroyer9058 thank you so much,I hope you have a wonderful rest of your week
@jamesbennett55872 жыл бұрын
Most of the people in Jim Jones cult was with father divine before joining Jim Jones
@terrancelittle3652 Жыл бұрын
He took away ?
@frostempress4176 Жыл бұрын
@@terrancelittle3652 you can’t say certain words on KZbin anymore
@BlessedBeyondCompare3 жыл бұрын
I have so much admiration for you Maye. Strong, intelligent, incredibly talented. Girl can ACT, can WRITE, can PAINT. It's just too much. You are phenomenal and I am here for it!!!!
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy all my upcoming projects
@BlessedBeyondCompare3 жыл бұрын
@@MayeMuses Already hyped. :D :D :D
@barrybrown6112 жыл бұрын
Maye I heard something about another preacher similar to Father Divine... I haven't looked him up but heard of him, the name is Sweet Daddy he was also around the time frame of Father Divine...
@PERC_ANGLE.962 жыл бұрын
@@barrybrown611 sweet daddy grace ( The House of prayer for all people)
@jimflipz47742 жыл бұрын
@@MayeMuses what is your Instagram
@feleciagoldson28343 жыл бұрын
Celibacy is the ultimate form of empowerment. When you cut off your sexual desire's, it empowers you to control every aspect of your life. Smoking, drinking, toxic people. It's not about sexual, deprivation. It's the beginning to finding God, yourself, and becoming your bestfriend.🙏🏾🕊
@MayeMuses2 жыл бұрын
Any true path to God is a good thing
@lhu69712 жыл бұрын
@@MayeMuses i live a Christian life. I've been celibate for 21 yrs. I'm 54. An important aspect i haven't conquered and that's fasting. Any advice?
@grannyklampit17102 жыл бұрын
@@lhu6971 do your research first.
@makebacunningham67952 жыл бұрын
You better say that!!❤️
@djyua91572 жыл бұрын
That can’t be true I’m a big believer in God I don’t think he would have made sex just as important as eating if he didn’t want us to do it it’s a basic human need also nowhere in the Bible does it say sex is wrong just sexual immorality
@setapart4god502 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Philadelphia and when I was a young child my mom took me to one of his restaurants and the food and atmosphere was absolutely wonderful. My mom said they called him Daddy Divine.
@marquita1822 жыл бұрын
Those are two different people….there’s Father Divine & Daddy Grace
@teetalksthereal2 жыл бұрын
Omg he still has a church here in Virginia and they still cook, they also still have his throne chair and everything.
@greenhousefun32352 жыл бұрын
I remember going to eat in S. Philly for a very small amount of money. . Then we would walk to S. Street
@ms.jewell81542 жыл бұрын
I remember eating there also when I was a child and my mom was broke
@karenwomble26402 жыл бұрын
Me too.I am 68yrs old.born and raised in West Philly.One Easter,my father and mother took me,and my 2 younger brothers to see the Ten Commandments downtown,followed by Easter dinner at father Devine’s restaurant.Modesty was a must,and there was to be no wasting of food.The food was great.
@arisschenck11642 жыл бұрын
I'm from Newark,NJ and his hotel still stand. It's a historic building and was remodeled. It also been renamed. All the elders still call it Father Divine Hotel. The city still rent to the poor. My mom talked about him all the time.
@pradaguccifendichanel26192 жыл бұрын
Do you mind telling me what is it called today I live in Newark Nj
@Street215Philly2 жыл бұрын
I'm born & raised in North Philly. I also read about this as a kid and my parents told me about this organization. They also had a restaurant that feed a ton of people at the lowest prices. There so much more to this. Thanks for bringing this up.
@kennethgivens86832 жыл бұрын
Langston Hughes wrote a character based on him in his book “the ways of white folks”
@crystalspraggins2702 жыл бұрын
Was that "Rejuvenation Through Joy?"
@keenafromphilly2 жыл бұрын
many Renaissance era novels did
@kennethgivens86832 жыл бұрын
@@crystalspraggins270 yes ma’am it was!!!
@crystalspraggins2702 жыл бұрын
@@kennethgivens8683 Thank you! I haven't read this book in years and just pulled it from the shelf. I remember loving it.
@GodCreatedBlack2 жыл бұрын
I have that book! I am going to pull it out.
@lab58962 жыл бұрын
I live in Philadelphia and have had many of delicious meals from his restaurants. However, he used those people. They had to give him all of their money, change their name, and do exactly what he said. Abstinence with married people is crazy as hell. I know a previous member of his cult and the only persons that profited was Father and Mother. He controlled their minds. They actually believed that he was God and that he would arise like Jesus. Damn shame that people are so vulnerable.
@andretobias24392 жыл бұрын
She's supposed to control your damn mind just like he did what the hell y'all talking about he control their mind what happened to common Sense mother whip and the way y'all follow Donald Trump I don't know seems like the same animal to me
@polomartinez12 жыл бұрын
Aio,
@ivanawilliams2792 жыл бұрын
Sounds kinda like The American Slave trade!!! That's the same exact thing except under duress.
@ianayler54182 жыл бұрын
@@ivanawilliams279 You Talking Nonsense, Just foolish of you say something silly. go learn about Black American History. This can't not be compare to slavery. Just silly
@itsbwashbabi2 жыл бұрын
He got restaurants in phily? Where at
@angelasims73773 жыл бұрын
My Mom (who is actually 100 and a 1/2 yrs old) spoke about what a movement it was and how the pentecostals hated him for the lack of humility...thanks for this!
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an amazing resource.
@angelasims73773 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty interesting and cool experience, for sure! Thanks, and keep posting! 😀
@americanintrovert70872 жыл бұрын
@@MayeMuses highly intelligent con artist.
@blackapples47442 жыл бұрын
Angela…. Lack of humility?! There is jealousy in the world. Isn’t it. I never heard of him until now.
@SirenScorpio2 жыл бұрын
God Bless your Mom... I hope she still with you ❤️
@mellyons454212 күн бұрын
Maye I found your presentation both informative and humorous. I am a child of parents who once were a "living the life" and decided to live a more conventional life (that's why I am here). I had aunts, uncles and I believe a grandparent who was part of the "peace mission". I recall attending one or two meetings at PineBrook, NJ where there was sumptuous meals; the motto "each all you want but eat all you take". My aunt, my mothers sister passed a way after leaving the peace mission and I became the executor of her estate; a year after she passed I received a call from the peace mission in Philadelphia stating they were selling a hotel and my aunts name was on the deed and as such they were sending me her share of the proceeds. I agree with you presentation no one is perfect and if father Devine or Jesus came back now; people would probably kill them! Just look at where we are now; they were going to lynch Mike Pence. I keep and eye out for other information you choose to share. You somewhat cleared up some curiosity I have had for year about my parents in the peace mission. Be well and thanks.
@heidih30482 жыл бұрын
I love your presentations style and dry sense of humor! I just discovered your channel with this video, and look forward to exploring the eclectic and thought-provoking content!
@pausetapemedia79422 жыл бұрын
Father Divine has been a taboo in our culture and in America. He was the first to do what ministries today has a matter of fact he was the blue print
@jaybrown20992 жыл бұрын
He had the best store in my neighborhood growing up in the 70's it was called PEACE they sold everything, from candy, toys , sewing patterns, household items.
@susanpepper88542 жыл бұрын
Ive often wondered if a cult leader set out to develop a cult following, or if they truly had good intentions that grew into something bad.
@christinan64502 жыл бұрын
I truly believe he was deceived & he believed every word he was speaking. I can remember my mom & dad laughing at the things he said because his statements were so outrageous! On the 1 hand he claimed to follow the Bible; on the other hand he would totally go against the Bible. Many of his followers were loyal to him because he fed, clothed, employed them, etc. So I wonder if his good deeds were just to keep people tied to him, rather than pure benevolence.
@maires0072 жыл бұрын
@@christinan6450 You are so WRONG you don't even know how wrong you are. You didn't even know him! Just running off at your mouth about what you DO NOT KNOW. GOD GO LEARN SOMETHING!
@lavellebrooks27062 жыл бұрын
They were planted by the devil.. Matthew 13:37-39
@miahconnell232 жыл бұрын
YES. I’ve had that thought too (my Dad tried to raise me into one of the more sketchy ‘Christian, but our church has a Very-Special-Leader’ churches). [It made me suspicious of all people in charge of anything.] I wonder if Jim Jones started out altruistically and then became drunk on power and became a megalomaniac tyrant. He was an unusual character at the start, though (JJ was). Somebody [perhaps Maye Muses] should do a comparative analysis of Father Divine, Jones, Joseph Smith, and a couple more and narrow down exactly where charlatan-ism enters. And yah, I bet some cult-leaders DO start out on day 1 with that ‘I wanna be the special-guy-in-charge’ issue 🤔
@lavellebrooks27062 жыл бұрын
Every tree is known by the fruit it bear.. A lemon tree cannot grow apples and a plum tree can't grow oranges. Neither can a good tree bring forth evil fruit and a evil tree can't bring forth good fruit... Just because a person gives doesn't mean that they are doing it with the good intentions
@KandeeKane852 жыл бұрын
Omg I was not expecting to sit through the entirety of this! Nicely presented and relatable! 🥰🥰 ty!
@TyHybrid2 жыл бұрын
God dwells in us doesn't mean we are God it just means he dwells in us. We have his anointing on us.
@silvernblack212 жыл бұрын
And that's only for those who actually have faith, most don't.
@MC-ym3lz3 жыл бұрын
Buddha had a son before he became a monk, so after Buddha became successful in building his religious movement, his son wanted to join him, but Buddha's father was heartbroken due to his grandson leaving him. So Buddha promised to make a rule for children joining his monasticism, parents have to give consent, and if parents refused they'd have to wait until they reach adulthood. This is to prevent break up of families.
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
Buddha was wise and selfless like this
@brickjones38312 жыл бұрын
@@MayeMuses are you a Buddhist I thought I saw you at a Memorial Service Thursday in Harlem
@meb7772 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@terryseldon74462 жыл бұрын
ELIJAH MUHAMMAD same way... if 16 and under must have oarrnts consent to join
@zyzzyz70352 жыл бұрын
So they were nice antichrists.
@linpin18432 жыл бұрын
KZbin algorithms are awesome! Glad your video popped up - it was great!
@shawnschoonmaker2 жыл бұрын
His ministry fed my mom in Harlem back in the 30's and an old Jewish friend said Father Devine retrieved his stolen truck filled of watermelon. I respect his efforts.
@aja11082 жыл бұрын
I know of him because of the masons I've connected with in NYC. I'm born in the 80s.
@wavybump2 жыл бұрын
@@aja1108 was he a Mason?
@aja11082 жыл бұрын
@@wavybump he probably belonged to the Prince Hall Masons. It was fairly new then and very prominent.
@dickcheney24702 жыл бұрын
Kwamwe Nkrumah, the first president of Ghana was a starving student back in the 30's. He got free food from Father Devine's church.
@shawnschoonmaker2 жыл бұрын
Next interesting gentleman, share info on Sweet Daddy Grace.
@ericaneal51522 жыл бұрын
My grandma was a follower of Father Divine. All I can say is what she taught me from what she learned from him, YES! Thoughts create things and the Law of Attraction/The Secret/ The Law of Assumption is REAL. Because of her teaching me what she learned during that New Thought Movement I have been able to CREATE. It is all in the Bible, if you know how to read it. We are GOD!
@coolbreeze65322 жыл бұрын
"We are God..." can't get much more demonic than that.
@FIRING_BLIND2 жыл бұрын
What do you say to the idea that the Law of Attraction can only truly work for privileged ppl (ppl who aren't poor, ppl who are mostly white, etc.)? I've seen many discuss how the barriers put in place as part of classism and racism really prevent the Law of Attraction from working on a big scale for many, many ppl
@jmichelle81922 жыл бұрын
I first became fascinated with Cult History back in high school when I took Psychology 1 and Jim Jones was the 1st cult we were taught about. How ironic the 1st video I see of yours has a little segment about him 🤯. I’m Here to stay now 😂
@jeromeosills65222 жыл бұрын
Are you fascinated by cult history or just Jim Jones? When it comes to any kind of leader Jim Jones is bottom of the barrel. in fact Jones was no leader he just thought he was.
@MichelleSmith-zx2fk2 жыл бұрын
When you said “elderly people love young people who are polite and help them with electronics” 😂…Truth
@CCLXII3 жыл бұрын
I did some research on Jim Jones and always heard him referring to father Devine. I now know exactly who he was referencing. Thanks for the enlightenment
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. These things are interwoven
@jennifergrant54222 жыл бұрын
Thank you... For this information... You heard of 3GODS CULT 2022🤔
@kofoblue31722 жыл бұрын
He was before my time but when I was growing up, I remember the elders talking about him. His influence still exists today but we just don't know it's from him.
@27TaLisa2 жыл бұрын
That's scary
@PlanetApathy2 жыл бұрын
@@27TaLisa not as scary as the prevalent influences of our time I assure you.
@powertothetubers4562 жыл бұрын
You did a great job on this and it reflects in your views. I am now a subscriber and look forward to more of your work. I never knew who Father Divine was until now and you're the one who taught me. If only school teachers taught like this, people would be more interested in history 😆. Keep up the good work
@1eradney2 жыл бұрын
This is the one of the best series and presentation I have ever seen! Your humor is well appreciated and awesome in your delivery and profound knowledge dissemination ❤️🌹
@ChaceWayne2 жыл бұрын
I am writing about him, in a book, he was indeed an inspiration for King, Daddy Grace, Malcolm X, and was indeed the most important pastor in America, between Garvey and King. Garveyites, in Harlem and Oakland, CA., followed Divine after Garvey's arrest and deportation. Father Divine lived next to FDR and owned over200 houses where followers lived on Booker T. Washington philosophy. Only Booker T. Was held higher than Divine, to Divine. Divine held 35 million, during the Great Depression. Jim Jones, a white man, trying to engage in a black cultural form, collapsed under its pressure, trying to lead a black movement, as a white man. Jonestown was the result. Thanks Maye, for bringing Father Divine to peoples' awareness. He still has all his original property in Sayville, LI and Woodmont, in PA. Also, "you have to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative" is based on a Father Divine sermon.
@zxcccccc12 жыл бұрын
Interesting, do you have a website?
@charray68672 жыл бұрын
Oh my!
@Magic369-dt2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. You spoke so passionately of Father Divine. I earned my Ph.D. in Religion at Temple University in 2003. While there, I learned that Father Divine funded a scholarship there for poor students. I started going to his building off Broad and Giraud. It was a wonderful experience. His building is now an apartment condo complex. Great research Douglas E. Thomas, PhD
@ChocolateAristocrat2 жыл бұрын
I am happy to read your comment. When I moved to Huntington Valley I met Mother Divine and my family and I spent Fourth of July with the “family”. So much history of the Divine Lorraine, Langston Hughes, $1.50 lunches etc... Mr. Baker walked without fear out of the south and into “his calling”
@honeybfly19802 жыл бұрын
Cool! I didnt know that. I graduated from Temple in 2005
@Magic369-dt2 жыл бұрын
@@honeybfly1980 what department
@georgebrown21752 жыл бұрын
Does the building have his commemoration?
@ricolaw10332 жыл бұрын
Father Divine had a big presence in Philly. Restaurants and hotels. there was a hotel and restaurant on the Penn campus and a church on my grandparents block on 41st & Westminster that was open into the early 80s. FYI all religions are ideology and cults. Remember the Romans called Christianity the Christian Cult?
@slr81702 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting, my grandma said a few days ago that they would go to the Divine Lorraine Hotel in Philadelphia and hear him “preach” she has Alzheimer’s but when I mentioned that they turned the hotel into apartments she remembered him!
@Fee-Fee2 жыл бұрын
I hope this helps. I worked with Alzheimer’s patients and they may not remember you but they remember their youth. If you want to learn about their youth and how life was for them, they can tell great stories. Appreciate these times even if they have no idea of you are. I enjoyed working with these people. It was not easy but I was young and move quickly when needed. I hope this helps you.
@slr81702 жыл бұрын
@@Fee-Fee thank you, my grandmother has full moments of lucidity and has a better long term memory than short term, she knows all of us and has a lot of stories lol I wasn’t surprised that she started talking about going to The Divine Lorraine I was more surprised that it popped up for me to watch this afterwards.
@tyana_allday2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! I grew up in Philly and never knew the history behind that hotel. It was a very prominent structure on Broad Street! Thanks so much for making this connection.
@BoomsMom092 жыл бұрын
That building was beautiful, the sign was still on top of the dilapidated for 30+ years. I had always been fascinated about what things used to be or looked like, that building always seemed mysterious to me, always wondered who Lorraine was lol. Now it’s luxury apartments that most regular folk can’t afford to live it. Has a middle court yard with balconies, beautiful original architecture.
@QueenKahli19992 жыл бұрын
Whats with the name Loraine.. the Loranie is where MLK was murdered.
@Thurlbred45 Жыл бұрын
My mother was just telling me how my grandfather use to take my mother and uncle to Dive Lorraine Hotel in Philadelphia to listen to Father Divine preach and eat dinner with him. She said it was an awesome experience to see so many black folks gather for a good cause💪🏾 My mother is 74 years old
@theunexplained28552 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy I found this video. I was just learning about him from my grandpa. My grandpa said meeting father Devine was the first time his father had a conversation with a white person. For all the things father Devine did and was accused of. What he was preaching was absolute gold.
@palmares772 жыл бұрын
My grandmother is from Harlem, and says he was larger than life........Major figure in the black NYC community.
@toofine62 жыл бұрын
I'm in my mid'50s, NYC Lady, and recall Father Divine banter. I read about Father Divine in my history book as well. He was known.
@pharaohimhotep64822 жыл бұрын
I'm from west philly. I lived around the corner from father devine's church, inside of that church, they served breakfast, lunch & dinner. the food was top of the line food, that they never charged a set price. you could give whatever you had. father devine also owned a whole block, where all women lived, on westminister ave. all of the women who lived in those house were all red bones ( very light skinned black women) father devine owned a hotel on broad street in philly, that hotel had 10-5 floors on hotel rooms, father devine had notaries all over philly, & all manner o other businesses Father Devine was that dude.
@okeydokey96932 жыл бұрын
why did he only let redboned live there
@zadia14452 жыл бұрын
@@okeydokey9693 Exactly! Yet "he was that dude"....😏
@avanulaneway84182 жыл бұрын
@@okeydokey9693 he was reincarnated as lil wayne
@cheryiad69422 жыл бұрын
@@okeydokey9693 all black men who want that integration/peace/don't see color mess love yt women. They literally only do it to have access to them
@wordplay66652 жыл бұрын
So he had his women segregated by location based on color
@punarvasudosha2 жыл бұрын
There was Daddy Grace ( Graciella) and Father Divine at the same period. Rastafarian movement was started about the same time by a man named (Howell) an associate of Garvy. There are still followers to this day of most of these moments.
@doctorreed80772 жыл бұрын
King c a c i jah
@tericitaheard52572 жыл бұрын
I remember Daddy Grace. My mother had a friend that was a member of that cult.
@jasminetheconqueror51362 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the difference because I thought she was referring to Daddy Grace at first.
@teetalksthereal2 жыл бұрын
Lmao okay thank you for clearing that up I thought they were the same person Daddy Grace still has a church where I live.
@Co33coco2 жыл бұрын
Most churches are "Cults"...so what's your point
@aliamichelle_2 жыл бұрын
My Mom talks about Father Divine every time we pass by the Divine Lorraine Hotel. She is usually very vague as it was before her time so I had to hop on this vid to hear the whole story. I’m going to share this with her! Thank you!
@hoponpop33302 жыл бұрын
I remember him , I lived in Ct , and it was news when he visited his Churches in New Haven and Bridgeport , he was on the news . My older brother explained him as a religious leader. Who was financially motivated looking back he pretty much exploited Poor black people.
@TimeisUp222 жыл бұрын
I live in bridgeport. Its crazy how i caught this comment. I guess im too young, because i never heard of him, what was the name of his churches? Which streets was it on?
@AmericanShia7862 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. I knew of Father Divine, but only the negatives. I didn't know Father Divine was influenced by New Thought. There were many good things in his cult. I subscribed to you channel because the video was so well researched.
@RaymondMaxwell2 жыл бұрын
Good info. I am 66 and grew up in North Carolina hearing stories about Father Divine, Daddy Grace, and Elijah Muhammad, who all emerged around the same time and as a result of the Great Migration from the rural South to the urban North. Thank you for doing this research and sharing. Will return to your channel often.
@buddybell91922 жыл бұрын
I’m a young guy also from NC. And heard about Daddy grace even been by the church.. not in but by the church lol.. God Bless
@d.cpro37512 жыл бұрын
@@buddybell9192 yea daddy grace has a huge following in DC
@TheEL772 жыл бұрын
Heard about Father Devine and Daddy Grace from my 86 ur old grandmother. Already knew about Elijah Muhammad. It wasn’t until I started tracing my nationality that I found out all of those mentioned followed Noble Drew Ali.
@thesoutheastprincess2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’m from nc too and I graduated from NC A&T and I used to have to walk past his daddy grace church and I would hear stories but I was too afraid to go in the church
@KelzKelz21 күн бұрын
Is Daddy Grace the guy associated with the house of prayer?
@1jonbarnes12 жыл бұрын
If he wasn't the first mega church, he had the first mega church, that didn't collect funds from his followers. That in itself is a miracle. (to my knowledge)
@---4562 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what he did when he was alive but I remember my family giving money every time they visited. I can't recall them asking for it but then again I was a child in my own world more consumed with the beautiful land and good food lol.
@lavellebrooks27062 жыл бұрын
Yes he did they said.. and he received all the funds they had... And some wanted their money back and even took him to court and he fleed New York to avoid it
@chelseaderks20152 жыл бұрын
“Oh the wife’s thinking thoughts, must be a crime involved” is literally soooo on point. Like that should be a saying
@prettyandchic2 жыл бұрын
OMG!!! I only ever saw you on some spelling podcast that my husband watches. I was surprised to find you here educating us on the cult life. I love it❤️! Subscribed and binging ASAP! 🙌
@KanoniaMakesMusic2 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video!!! I learnt so much, especially since I’ve never heard of father divine in my life (which is surprising because I relish learning about historical figures)- I am so happy I found you 🤗
@rightweaponry9082 жыл бұрын
My Dad grew up in Harlem in 40's and he loved Father Divine, he spoke about him all the time.
@jeanene72 жыл бұрын
Jim Jones, had a meeting with him, and Father Divine schooled him on how to make his followers worship him. Trust Jesus, and keep it moving. Many more will come, the Bible says so.
@83wasagoodyear2 жыл бұрын
Not true at all
@florencedebear15762 жыл бұрын
I'm 70 and I remember Father Divine and Sweet Daddy Grace. Glad you shared your research. It's important that young people talk to their elders so they don't have to assume we never heard of these people.
@ocdivine2 жыл бұрын
This is my 1st time discovering you and I must say I’m intrigued! Absolutely love this peace and your articulation! You are #awesome with that being said I’m subscribing and will share your platform with others. I look forward to discovering and viewing more of your material! Godspeed
@enlightened10052 жыл бұрын
First time I heard of Father Divine was in the mid 1990 I was a p public Health Nurse and had to visit one of his followers in a building he had on Central Av. Newark NJ. At first I though it was an apartment building but when the old Male answered the door. I asked to see Me. Love and he answered in a strange voice. Which Love ? We have Peaceful Love , Wonderful Love etc. As soon I gained entry in was shown pictures of Mother and Father which was every where and in every bedroom. There was a large dining area with a place setting for "Father and Mother " who was already dead years ago. A very strange place.
@colieaziza93712 жыл бұрын
I grew up with Father Divine's followers. My grandmother and my aunt lived in one of his hotels. My grandmother became friends with him and his followers. I spent a lot of time at his hotel in Newark, N. J. It was a very interesting experience and helped shape who I am today.
@alireid58742 жыл бұрын
In a good or bad way?
@bilderberg_news26442 жыл бұрын
So you spent time at the Hotel Riviera.
@colieaziza93712 жыл бұрын
@@bilderberg_news2644 Yes. A lot of time. My grandmother lived there for a short time and my aunt lived there for years. I ate at the banquets and in the diner. I spent a lot of time in the dressmaking shop as those ladies were my grandmother's friends. She helped them with work that they had to complete.
@keithjohnson44642 жыл бұрын
That hotel is still standing in Newark New Jersey
@immaculatebloodline80822 жыл бұрын
Link up . Puppies for sale
@kimberlywilliams45132 жыл бұрын
I’m a 62 year old African American woman who grew up in North Philadelphia where Father Divine had a mansion on 16th & Oxford. It’s still there. I loved when my mom took us to the Divine Lorraine Hotel to visit the restaurant downstairs on the intersections of Ridge Ave, Fairmont Av and North Broad Street!
@charray68672 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your channel and your bringing forth facts on a cult leader. I'd heard about Father Divine being a man whom was supposed to be religious but had gotten people to give him lots of money. I appreciate hearing & watching someone who does their research to prove what they speak on
@keithshowell66882 жыл бұрын
Thank you Maye for bringing this part of black church history. I heard about Father Divine and Daddy Grace and even Reverend Ike as a kid but did not know the much about his place in civil rights and his own version of "God". I am proud to subscribe to your muses, VERY well done!!!
@bihmthethird2 жыл бұрын
If there wasn't a Father Divine, there would be no Reverend Ike.
@Beautifulglenda2 жыл бұрын
Wait... Rev Ike was a cult leader?
@1love8472 жыл бұрын
Who's Reverand Ike?
@anubey87102 жыл бұрын
He was also with the Moorish temple with Timothy drew as well. The common denominator was that they all came through Masonry and the Moorish temple because Elijah Poole Bey/Muhammad was also with the Moorish Temple and a Mason.
@queenofbuttercream2 жыл бұрын
@@1love847 Reverend Ike was a big pastor, now he has a history that is known amongst black people. I'm 40 and I remember seeing him on TV and heading him on the radio.
@123kpatrick2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Daddy Grace....
@eleanorturner46512 жыл бұрын
When I was young in the sixties I heard my parents talk of this father Divine and of the Sunday meals he was served after service at his church somewhere down my forty-third street round Wyalusing or somewhere down in Philadelphia but that's all I ever heard about it thank you for being so informative on this subject of Father Divine as I never knew he was into the Civil Rights Movement there was nothing ever written about him that I've enabled spine until your podcast so thank you very much
@302Notary-fingerprintboss2 жыл бұрын
@ Eleanor Turner, Yasssss Queen! My family ate there many Sundays after church. Great affordable food. I believe it was by donation. Families ate and paid what they they could afford. Eventually that changed because people would eat and pay $1/$2 dollars I wish they were still there. Many need those meals. Philadelphia has a terrible homeless population nowadays.
@firstladyntrng11702 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Philly and remember as a very young child walking with my grandmother there. They had THEE BEST food !! I can still remember how clean and beautiful it was…white table cloths and silverware..and the most lovely smell of yeast rolls and just delicious food😋..All the “Ladies” wore long flowey white dresses…I said to my grandmother “Is this heaven, are they angels” 😭😭of course as a child I wouldn’t have known about his civil rights work so this was enlightening.
@ruthdixon36992 жыл бұрын
You're talking about my old neighborhood, I remember the place!
@ricolaw10332 жыл бұрын
It's at 41st & Westminster. My grandparents block and where I grew up and lived later as an adult after moving back from Jersey and DC. I wasn't born until 1971 and it was open until the early 80's. My older family members have more vivid memories than me. the building was actually a terminal for the Pennsylvania Railroad before 30th Street station was built. Now it's a preschool and kindergarten for Belmont Charter. My youngest daughter attended preschool and kindergarten there.
@ricolaw10332 жыл бұрын
@@ruthdixon3699 41st & Westminster. my block is 41st Street between Ogden and Westminster.
@nate4nate52 жыл бұрын
Mind Blowing!! I have NEVER heard of this man, this is proof that they only teach and show you what they want you to absorb, bless you Maye for dropping this jewel, I'm subscribing RIGHT NOW.
@maryanglin5372 жыл бұрын
Wow, i just came across this page, and at 72 yso i recall my great aunt talking about Father Divine. Regardless of anyone's personal opinion Im impressed with this young lady expanding her black history. Im subscribing to her channel for other discussions. Most of these Channels are boring and irrelevant. Proud of you young lady ☺
@jupiterskiss34732 жыл бұрын
You're free to educate yourself
@createadramaticlife2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that you mentioned Father Divine. I went to college on Philadelphia in the late 80’s and was immediately introduced to him. His buildings were all over the Delaware Valley. As a matter of fact, when I got married we bought a historic home on the same block as his convent.
@Dancingontgesun19422 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I remember seeing a promo for an documentary on this cult 2 or 3 times but I was never able to find a copy of it ANYWHERE.
@Aaron-sg8br3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about Father Divine myself. I honestly forgot about him until I seen this title. Great job with the video and research!!
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@CammyCat11113 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother told me that her mother ran off with father divine she left her husband and kids to follow him
@kathleenking472 жыл бұрын
Jim jones wasnt the 1st?
@djyua91572 жыл бұрын
A woman will leave anybody for a great man a cult doesn’t have to be involved
@urbanhabuki80912 жыл бұрын
anybody who "read" know their were many do called "father devines" even long before this particular one got on the scene.
@sherrita805482 жыл бұрын
Did she ever come back?
@georgebrown21752 жыл бұрын
A relative of mine is supposed to have done the same thing only it was a man.
@kaydenpat2 жыл бұрын
I had to chuckle when you said that Father Divine preached celibacy and then the husbands of his women followers had him arrested for lunacy. Heh.
@cadillacdeville58282 жыл бұрын
You were on my recommended list and I'm NOT disappointed
@alterego29782 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember my granddad talking about him. He (my granddad) died this January, in his 90s so I’m def interested to hear more about this father divine person and see if it jogs any memories from my grandads stories
@shostoppah1112 жыл бұрын
I was just researching this man’s buildings that have been remodeled and resold over the years in Philadelphia. His full self given name was Father Major Jealous Devine. Just the name is a red flag.
@nlocnil36022 жыл бұрын
Jealous??? 🤣🤣🤣 red flag indeed
@zaejohnson34142 жыл бұрын
@@nlocnil3602 😂😂
@zaejohnson34142 жыл бұрын
@Lavender Eyes Tarot LLC lolll girl he say they “major jealous” of him 😂 he really did know what he was doing lol. I don’t think he was celibate honestly.
@charray68672 жыл бұрын
Big-time red flag
@mikeparker75622 жыл бұрын
He had hotels in Philly in the early 2000’s at the time I was a broke traveler just out of college and needed the most affordable place in town. The rooms were had floors separated by sex and no smoking or drinking allowed. Other than that it was a great stay like being a hostel. I was curious about the history and what I discovered was kinda shocking but I also know history of black people is often distorted by oppressors.
@KayDejaVu2 жыл бұрын
He owned part of Harlem too. That was most fascinating. Of course it was all left to his 2nd wife.
@michelebrown51422 жыл бұрын
I saw one of the hotels 12 yrs ago. My mother explained to me what it was.
@mrcell27622 жыл бұрын
The Loretta divine on broad and fairmount
@michelebrown51422 жыл бұрын
@@mrcell2762 Yeah. I thought we were on Broad St but I lived in My Airy as a child and was never really familiar with anything past Germantown.
@leedaniels71962 жыл бұрын
He owned a hotel in Newark NJ too.
@darnellclark3 жыл бұрын
Once again you teach me something new Maye, Father Divine sounded like Creflo with the suits and the plane lol let me stop before someone gets offended but let me look up Nevel
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
History repeats
@kennaj60802 жыл бұрын
I’m honestly also flabbergasted that I’ve never heard of this because I try to educate myself on both black history and cult history😟 So glad your video popped up on my recommended!
@VQG18 Жыл бұрын
I am flabbergasted also!! Just shocked !!
@lisaruzicka83452 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. I love your content, and even more your delivery. Your humor is awesome. The relationship between Father Divine and Jim Jones is fascinating. They both demonstrate the concept that power corrupts.
@charray68672 жыл бұрын
I agree
@tonyjones15602 жыл бұрын
My grandfather used to talk at length about Father Divine and said mostly good thing about him. Thanks for this video, I hope he’s not lost to history.
@CertainExposures3 жыл бұрын
Back with cult content and I’m here for it.
@kathleenking472 жыл бұрын
1:08 The church should never have been segregated in the 1st place Yet jews and Greeks had a hard time in the bible..even IF LUKE was greek and Timothy, half greek
@ralphsanchico24522 жыл бұрын
I was a product of the foster care system back in the 60's mid 70's. I remember seeing pamphlets of Mr. Divine in my foster mothers possession. I never gave him much thought, but years later while stationed in Ft Belvoir Va., I received a letter from my foster sister with a news clipping showing my Foster parents being interviewed at their front door by news crews about the death of my Foster fathers mother who was one of the many victims in Jonestown. It literally blew my mind, cause I never made the connection between his mother and Jones or ANY religion for that matter. Again, fast forward some years later and watching the "Made for TV movie" about Jonestown and seeing the meeting, (Which you verified) in this video, between Mr. Divine and Jim Jones, I was able to put 2 and 2 together and the simple conclusion is that the advice taken away from that meeting between those 2 led Jim Jones straight into the trap that Satan had long laid out! No true man of God advises another believer about anything that would put themselves in the position to not only believe they are god themselves, but to force them to take their own lives. The other thing that is totally glaring in these matters of cults and cultism, is the woeful misunderstanding of what they actually are! Mr. Divine has used the age old weapon that pretty much always leads people into the trap of joining them, and that's the art of "GOOD WORKS" I can take a starving person and feed them to the point where I will have them believe anything I want them to. Even if I Stand on a platform of moral virtue such as speaking against racism. Who in their right moral mind would be against that? As long as I use that virtue to control them, I'm accomplishing my task. But like all Cults, it's the ultimate camouflage! The defining evidence of any Cult is that they are ALL ANTI CHRIST! And how strange is it that no mention of Christ was ever mentioned in this video or videos of Mr. Divine and for that matter, any other cult regardless of their Charisma! In closing: You cannot approach the word of God or Jesus Christ from a secular angle. "But if our Gospel be hid, it's hidden unto them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds who believe not.......Lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them" 2 Cor 4: 3-4
@georgebrown21752 жыл бұрын
Heartfelt. I disagree a little, but not when you expose why you believe something. I didn't realize the Catholic Church put me willingly in a cult my first catachism class. I rebelled as much as I could as a child. I believed the stuff that made sense to me.Celebecy does not exist for men.Look up Fr.Frank Trauger in the Pennsylvania Predator Preist Registry. I met him when I was ten.When I was sixteen I looked right in his eyes after I witnessed him assault a nine old boy. I was a skinny black kid who did not know what a pedophile was.He went on to rape many youths in Pennsylvania hiding behind church “cultism. I believe he is finally in jail.
@ralphsanchico24522 жыл бұрын
@@georgebrown2175 Unfortunately, Organizations' (Religious or otherwise) that promote or mandate celibacy, only set one up for failure. Celibacy is a gift which is something that a person from day one has and will take it to his or her grave. On the other hand, one can devote themselves to a life of sexual abstinence, that is, in the confines of marriage, providing they're led by the holy spirit to do so. When you create doctrines that are contrary to the natural laws of God, you inevitably create the aforementioned things you've stated. Of course that's no justification for committing them but like the old adage says: :An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
@kimtolliferreo47172 жыл бұрын
Thanks Maye! In the late '60s and early '70s My dad used to occasionally take our family to dinner at the Divine Temple on Sundays. It was on broad Street in Philadelphia, although we were not members. It was good food at a reasonable price. 🌞
@nonexistenceisbliss95282 жыл бұрын
This "Father Divine" character sounds like someone who was light-years ahead of their time. Truly wonderful upload! 👌
@chairmanoftheboard112 жыл бұрын
He was a pimp with a lot of game.
@chillinwithmartin2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning a little bit about Father Divine in a religion class I took in college. I remember my professor saying he had a big impact at the time but I didn't realize it was as big as it was. Also I didn't know there was video of him. That was interesting to see.
@intuitivespiritcoach2 жыл бұрын
Wow sis! You are an amazing Storyteller. Also, I in Philly and had no idea that the hotel divine had anything to do with him. Total crickets. You are the truth love!😍💅🏾
@cstyles7442 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a little girl growing up and in Philadelphia my dad used to take us every Sunday to father Devine to eat and even back then the food was so good and you just gave a donation. Best homemade yeast rolls. I Remember all the older women wearing all white as they served us
@kgotlelelompe62672 жыл бұрын
Hello I am from South Africa and i was born 1995 April 30.This was my first time watching your content. Thank for sharing. I can't wait to learn more.
@malikmatthews62522 жыл бұрын
Much respect good research Young lady can't wait to see what you will do next father Divine feed his people and his hotel Loraine grace Divine still stands today and he always had the cleanest white dinner table that could give Ruth Chris a run for their money even today immaculate dinner arrangements without question
@troyguzman46132 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was actually a devout follower of this man. My mother and her brothers suffered at her hands under his teaching.
@davidjohnson36st2 жыл бұрын
False prophets will have people doing the dumbest shit ain't nothing holy bout that shit at all no one should be worshipped like that let alone a mortal man
@GeoffreyB2032 жыл бұрын
Can you explain?
@lizc.41812 жыл бұрын
@Troy Guzman I would like to know how? Please explain...
@lorenzobaines62222 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@Loud20132 жыл бұрын
Please say more!!
@jonathanking74302 жыл бұрын
Dr. Maye, you are a brilliant teacher. You make history come alive. I had read a little about Fr. Divine but you brought his Past life out of obscurity. Thanks for sharing!
@302Notary-fingerprintboss2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Philadelphia. The Divine Lorraine Hotel was one of the most beautiful edifices on broad street. A cult though it was. I heard they would leave a plate set for father divine years beyond his death
@---4562 жыл бұрын
Yes! I literally just left that under someone else's comment. they most definitely did do that.
@georgebrown21752 жыл бұрын
I always saw that place but didn't know who it was named after.
@Magic369-dt2 жыл бұрын
Yes that is true. A plate would be at the table at all times representative of Fathers presence.
@benjaminmcdowell80142 жыл бұрын
A culture not a cult that’s a stupid word Christianity is a cult Islam is a Cult all of it is about Culture!!!!
@murtithinker76602 жыл бұрын
@@Magic369-dt Did he adore food?
@mommonald2242 жыл бұрын
The Divine Lorraine was always one of my favorite buildings in Philly. I’ve read a good deal about Father Divine. Fascinating character. The comments here from family members are amazing.
@mstaramae_irl3 жыл бұрын
Loving this series! I'm learning so much that I literally would have never even thought to research.
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have more coming shortly
@immaculatebloodline80822 жыл бұрын
Nice
@them.g.c.network84712 жыл бұрын
He came in contact with W.D Fard's Teachings during the 1920's. The same person who founded The Nation of Islam.
@nyeibrown28762 жыл бұрын
That’s crazy my grandmother told me about a church her and her friends egged as little girls…the man of the church was called by the name “Daddy Grace”….she said when she walked into the church people was fanning Daddy Grace with huge palm trees….and they would sing “What’s the matter with Daddy, he’s alright” smh wild what kind of church dat!
@blueorganics85042 жыл бұрын
Women call they boyfriends daddy and they probably don't do as much as this man did. He wasn't taking money from h his followers he was literally helping them, so if they wanna call him daddy fuck it
@ShanekaAndranette2 жыл бұрын
Marcelino Manuel da Graça was known as Daddy Grace. Many confuse him with Father Divine. They are one in the same.
@KapQueen2 жыл бұрын
Thats the House of Prayer. There are alot in my city
@bernardalexandermcnealy40722 жыл бұрын
"I hated to do it...I hated to do it." Thank for clarity on Father Divine. Curious, have you ever researched 'Daddy Grace?" There are similarities.
@taneishahn40202 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I watched/listened to this entire video. It was interesting. You got me when you said you are a U.S history movement. I love history especially U.S.
@tobiasmoore58903 жыл бұрын
I’ve been telling my friends at work about your channel & they all love your content..thanks for all you do🙏🏾
@MayeMuses3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate the word of mouth
@saundrag88492 жыл бұрын
I knew of him as a child, my parents and relatives always talked about him. My mom is 102.
@lavellebrooks27062 жыл бұрын
Wow God bless your mom and may she see more good days
@GeminiPearls2211_OG2 жыл бұрын
Blessings
@AdeebShabazz2 жыл бұрын
Maye, I must say that I LOVE ❤️ your prsentation style as much as I love your content. My degree is in Political Science, but of course history is and always was paramount in my studies. I particularly enjoy the history of religious and spiritual movements, especially those involving African Americans. I fully intend to resurrect my social media presence and start actively you-tubing again. Hopefully one day we can work together and assist one another in our work. On a closing note, I totally agree with you on the Neville Goddard point!
@obedirect5491 Жыл бұрын
@34:50 lm 60+ & never heard of Neville Goddard, so lm looking fwd to that vid.
@bethgreene39032 жыл бұрын
I love the levity you bring to your video- thank you
@theelectofthelivinggod59172 жыл бұрын
The holy Spirit is about to grow your ministry like you've never seen before. Keep exposing satan and his poisonous darts. God bless you sis. ❤🙏🏾
@aprilfoster47252 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother spoke of my her husband who traveled with railroad, of an observation in upstate New York and warned her of if this catches on be mindful while he was away. They believed the same progressive thoughts as a black married couple. But saw the issue of family bond broken.