Learn more about the new-for-1971 Pontiac Grand Ville, which replaced the Pontiac Bonneville as the top-of-the-line Pontiac for 1971.
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@smellsuperb1 Жыл бұрын
The most seminal memory of this car, for me, is the excellent car chase in "The Seven-Ups" 🤩
@smellsuperb1 Жыл бұрын
They drove the hell out of that Grand Ville
@tommyrregina1227Ай бұрын
OUR FAMILY HAD A 1972 PONTIAC CATALINA SEDAN , 1972 PONTIAC CATALINA BROUGHAM HARDTOP , 1972 PONTIAC GRANDEVILLE SEDAN , & 1974 PONTIAC CATALINA COUPE . ENJOYED EACH OF THEM 🤗🤗🤗🤗
@davidsauls9542 Жыл бұрын
My uncle had one and Loved it. In 1976 he traded it for a Cadillac. It had more fake chrome, which he grew to Hate. The Pontiac was always his favorite. In 1992 I got a 1974 Grandville convertible. It was wonderful, had everything you needed and nothing that you did not need. The ride, reliability, handling, and comfort were great. Hurricane Katrina ate it in 2005.
@jeffrobodine8579 Жыл бұрын
I love the case scene in The Seven Ups with Roy Scheider in a 1973 Pontiac Ventura chasing Bill Hickman and Richard Lynch in a 1973 Grand Ville. Car Chase Wonderland on Y/T.
@fob1xxl9 ай бұрын
My folks had a 1959 Bonneville and then a 1972 LeMans. Always loved Pontiac's style. In 1974, I had a Grand Prix. Loved it !
@brandonmorris2513 Жыл бұрын
OK, I have an awesome Grand Ville Story. In 2009 I sold one of the these ( I'm a car broker, help people buy and sell new and used cars) for a lady that her husband was the original owner of a 1973. The husband bought it new and he died in the mid 2000's. In 2009 it had been sitting for 5-10 years and needed some work. I changed all the fluids, belts, hoses, fuel pump, fuel filter etc. Got it going and took it out for a maiden cruise. The engine was a 455. I got her out on the road and gave her an Italian Tuneup. The speedo needle bounced around quite a bit so I didn't know how fast I was going, exactly. Long story short, I got pulled over for going 120 in a 65 MPH zone. Officer was not too happy with me , he asked me " what the hell are you doing?" ( I had the top down and everything). I said " blowing out the carbon as it had been sitting for a number of years ". He just laughed and gave me a warning for no insurance card and expired tags, didn't write up anything else. That car would MOVE!!!!
@gieb6428 Жыл бұрын
in 1974 i was shopping for a used grand prix in a Pontiac dealer, couldn't quite find the one i wanted. The salesman says, "I have something you might like i thing it's a better car". So he shows me a used 1972 grand ville. Wow, I think he's right! And the price is low because there is a gas shortage going on and this car is huge and i also get top dollar for my trade because it is a tiny four cylinder that everybody wants! I buy the Grand Ville and I'm Cruising. Few years later i bought a Grand Prix. Both cars were great.
@amandab.recondwith8006 Жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why GM cancelled the Pontiac brand. My family always had Pontiacs from the 1950s through the 1970s. I had a Pontiac two door coup in the late 70s. It was a glorious car. So smooth. So luxurious! It was a gorgeous metallic copper color with a bronze vinyl roof and herringbone upholstery. They were lovely cars until GM ruined them with their trashy minimalized 1980s reduction.
@martinliehs2513 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, it looks like all car brands have become homogenized into appliances. There is not much left that has any true style or personality.
@jeffrobodine8579 Жыл бұрын
Badge engineering ruined Pontiac and Oldsmobile.
@Primus54 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffrobodine8579 Amen. As did Pontiac plastic “ribs”.
@scooterp7009 Жыл бұрын
Obama delivered the final death blow to Pontiac by leveraging GM behind the scenes with the bailouts. Then came the cash for clunkers program further revealing his disdain for America’s great automotive heritage.
@jermainec2462 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffrobodine8579 ruined GM is a hole in my opinion to this day I stick my nose up at Tahoe Yukon and Escalade because they damn near the same thing except for different interiors .just do Tahoe and Escalade 🤷🏾♂️
@groovy1937 Жыл бұрын
I love the 7 ups car chase scene! That '73 Grand Ville was awesome to watch - love that car. It is interesting to learn what enhancements they did to the car for the chase. (both cars). There is a behinds the scene video about the filming of the chase and it really is a treat to learn what they did to create and film this chase.
@jeffrobodine8579 Жыл бұрын
I heard that the sound effects from the Bullitt Mustang were used for Roy Scheider's Ventura.
@nycstarport8542 Жыл бұрын
I like that car chase, my first car was a Pontiac Ventura 'Sprint' hatchback.
@marclevesque3147 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it was funny to watch the Grand Ville floating around on it's coil springs at high speed, the smaller Pontiac in pursuit fared much better...
@motomuso Жыл бұрын
An interesting thing about the Seven-Ups car chase is that there is no musical score. The sound track is mostly engine noise, car horns, and screaming tires. And a badly over modulated siren with a tone of which could've made Hendrix proud.
@mjg263 Жыл бұрын
Also Richard Lynch, the actor in the passenger seat during that chase, was not told what Bill Hickman was going to do and he was genuinely scared shitless during that scene. His reactions are real and were left in the film for their gritty realism. Awesome movie!
@barneymiller6204 Жыл бұрын
We used to use the 'turn the top of the air cleaner over' trick on all of the GM cars of that era. Great sound when you get on it with the Q-jet!
@williamflack5767 Жыл бұрын
We did too!
@cliff4553 Жыл бұрын
As a teen I would do this with our family cars. If I forgot to turn it back to the normal position when I was done with the car, I hear about it from my dad. Let's just say that he wasn't a big fan of the effect.
@michaelbrown5601 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honorable mention of Bill Hickman. He impressed Steve McQueen with his driving, which is notable. Also Hickman tended to James Dean after his fatal accident.
@filipfaraci2751 Жыл бұрын
Tom Kennedy, in the early 70’s had a show called Split Second where, if you the big winner, you could pick from 5 keys that may start one of five cars. As a 10-year-old I always championed the Grand Ville.
@richardgribble8438 Жыл бұрын
My aunt and uncle ordered a brand new one like that from the factory, beautiful car all the options, gold with a beige vinyl top and a beige leather interior
@loveisall5520 Жыл бұрын
My parents bought the new Grand Ville in 1971; I earned my driver's license in that car. It was amazingly comfortable but had those awful trunk louvers that leaked from day one. They drove it for over 100k miles. Beige with dark brown vinyl roof and dark brown vinyl interior. Plastic grille, though, and Fiberglas front fender points.
@HypocriticYT Жыл бұрын
I like the long hoods, driving was like navigating a large ship 😮
@mikejohnson7206 Жыл бұрын
My first car was a 73 Grandville. My dad bought it in 75 and I got it for my 18 birthday in 86. The car needed some work mechanically but after I tuned it up it ran exceptionally well and was fast as hell for a full size 4000 lb car. That interior was huge, could fit 7 people in a pinch. Loved that car and my dream car to this day is a 73 Grandville convertible.
@JeffW77 Жыл бұрын
I remember an article in Car & Driver when the Grand Ville was introduced. Headline was: "Grand Ville: French for Big City, American for Big Boat."
@ronaldmiller2740 Жыл бұрын
HI ADAM,, THANK'S FOR THE HEADS UP ON THE SEVEN- UPS MOVIE IT'S BEEN YEARS AND WE ARE WATCHING IT MY SON AND I..
@guylr7390 Жыл бұрын
While I was away at college my dad traded the ‘63 Bonneville in for a new ‘71 Grand Ville, metallic brown with a tan vinyl top. When I came home for the holidays I took the car out hoping it would equal or better the old car that I had taken my driver’s license test in at 16 but was sadly disappointed. The big 455 just didn’t have the sparkling clean power of the Bonney with its high compression 389. It also felt softer and didn’t handle as well. I’m impressed that you were able to wake yours up with a dual exhaust and upside down air filter lid. I used to do the filter trick on the old Bonneville and loved the moan of the Carter AFB. Of course I’d always stop on the way home and flip the lid back over so Dad wouldn’t know I’d been hooning 😊
@williamflack5767 Жыл бұрын
I did the same with my dad's 74 Impala. Loved it. 350. Not bad pickup. Chevrolet was lighter, than the other GM models. Tried to get him to get a 74 Bonneville. He was impressed with the car salesman. Went from the trunk to the motor. Saying why he should get the Pontiac. My dad was s salesman. Pharma. Did not provide cars then, mileage. Dad, your note may be 75.00 more.
@misterwhipple2870 Жыл бұрын
Trust me. Dad knew.
@bruceh92 Жыл бұрын
2:22 I see some Cadillac in this design and that could be a first for me in viewing a Pontiac. Looks great. Thanks for video. Merry Christmas to all.
@jetsons101 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe how large cars once were, nothing like taking your living room for a ride on the freeway. Some cars today are a bit small, just wish the A-pillars were smaller for better visibility when making left and right turns. Thanks, Adam for posting this fine watch.
@nycstarport8542 Жыл бұрын
....like taking your living room for a ride on the freeway 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@gieb6428 Жыл бұрын
The grandville front seat was wider than the caddy
@jetsons101 Жыл бұрын
@@gieb6428 Funny how cars have gotten smaller, and people have gotten larger.
@billh4477 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites of the cars Dad had - a loaded 71 Grand Ville that was his company car. I took my driver's license test in that car, it brings back great memories watching this video. This one was followed by another company car that my brother and I talked Dad into - a 74 Grand Am. Both of us loved that car, and competed for the right to drive it.
@TheSpritz0 Жыл бұрын
That car would be a challenge (even back then) to parallel park!!!
@jf4994 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I had a total childhood flashback at 9:45, my dad had a GrandVille EXACTLY like that! I know every inch of that car and his ‘74 Bonneville AND my mom’s ‘74 Safari station wagon, since the best way to get extra on my allowance was to wash their cars! 😂
@daviddavis4444 Жыл бұрын
I had a 73 Gran Ville it was loaded with I think all options except the sunroof. Friends loved it when we did road trips in it.
@1972Ventura455ho Жыл бұрын
The 1970 blue Bonneville at :55 is one i use to own. It had 15,000 original miles that i bought out of Washington state and shipped it to Georgia. It's now in Europe in the Netherlands.
@kroge007 Жыл бұрын
We were a Pontiac family in the 60’s. My grandfather was a 61, 65 and 69 Bonneville 4-door sedans. My Dad had a 67 and 69 Bonneville Station Wagon before moving up to a Buick, I loved the 69’s because my Grandfathers and my Dads 69 had the 428 with dual exhaust. I thought as kid it was pretty cool your Dads Station Wagon had dual exhaust!
@vapsa56 Жыл бұрын
We were also a Pontiac family back then. Dad got a 1967 Tempest in Fremont Gold. Then got a 1974 Bonnie with the 400ci V8 in Fernmist Green. Wonderful cars.
@johnhall8364 Жыл бұрын
71 was the first year that the full sized cars (B’s and C’s) lost their individual chassis’. Unlike previous years were each division shared body structure but still had their own uniquely designed chassis the 71 generation introduced a corporate design frame that was shared by all divisions (with differences in just wheelbase and overhangs to account for different uses). This was noticeable especially on the higher end models where the new corporate frame just didn’t have the rigidly of the previous more expensive divisions.
@Tigger81762 Жыл бұрын
My dad bought a new 1975 Grand Ville fully loaded. It’s the car I learned to drive I and got my license. It was the best car but living in Toledo by the time it was 10 well there was not much of the body that didn’t have rust. I will say it was the nice riding most luxury car that I was ever in and people on our block was jealous because my dad has always and probably would always buy top-of-the-line when he bought a new car and I will say it’s what is the quietest car today that I’ve ever been in or owned. Have that thick luxury carpet I have fantastic cloth seats it was just a cool car if I could find one like it I would probably have one today
@roccosophie6498 Жыл бұрын
When I was a teenager, my high school girlfriends family had a convertible Bonnevile, coup. We used it on a few occasions. Light Blue with white interior. An outstanding looking and driving, vehicle.
@terry3193 Жыл бұрын
My best friend in high school had a beautiful 1970 Bonneville hardtop sedan, light blue with a black vinyl top and 455. I always thought they were so long and sleek but I could never tell if I thought the front end was ugly or beautiful with its beak grill. On the other hand, I did think that the new ‘72 Grand Ville was beautiful, all around. I remember I wanted one but none could be found in 1978/79 so I settled for a ‘70 Mercury Marquis Brougham, HT sedan w/429. Those were such great years!
@davidpancerev965811 ай бұрын
You did better with the Merc !
@jimcabezola3051 Жыл бұрын
The only place I saw Grand Villes were as convertibles displayed on the "Split Second" game show in the mid-'70s. They were prizes to be won. Never knew they could also be had as sedans. Mahalo for the lesson! 👍
@johnbrown504 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather surprised my grandmother with a new 1971 Grand Ville 4 door hardtop, white on white with white interior for her birthday. She absolutely loved that car. In 1980 he surprised her again with a new Chrysler. She wasn’t impressed and continued to drive the Pontiac.
@rodsteel8345 Жыл бұрын
My dad bought his first Pontiac Catalina off the showroom floor Ordered his ice blue 65 Pony Star Chief & his 71 Catalina Brougham. Then his 77 Bonneville Coupe with a 403 CI Olds engine from factory & I got a 77 Grand Prix SJ in Red/White. Then he moved in to Lincoln’s from then on & I had both fully loaded Lunch Cont Mark VI coupe & Hump Back Caddy Seville. Those were the days!😍
@treyreed6203 Жыл бұрын
When I was a little kid my grandma had a beautiful 1973 Pontiac Bonneville. It was red with a white top and white vinyl interior. I loved that car and still think about it often. My aunt and uncle had a Grand Ville that was the same color combo.
@67marlins Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting - I especially love the ad showing this car in a gorgeous amber color ( right before 2:00 mark ). Ford had a similar, beautiful ginger metallic color in the late'70s.
@MarinCipollina Жыл бұрын
One of my neiighbors bought a new 1973 Black Grand Ville 2 door hardtop coupe with red interior with rally sport wheels. 455 4bbl with dual exhaust. Sharp looking and sporty.. I really miss Pontiac.
@catiesuncle Жыл бұрын
Such as great video. My parents owned at one time a 2 door hardtop and a 4 door hardtop Grand Villes, both ‘72’s. They both had gold brocade interiors, very durable and elegant looking. I remember how smooth and quiet they were. My Mom drove the coupe 22 years.
@jeffstooksbury4497 Жыл бұрын
I took my drivers license test in my dad's 71 Grand Ville four door hardtop. A few years ago I purchased a 75 Grand Ville convertible.
@douglasb.1203 Жыл бұрын
Mom drove a '71 Grand Safari 455 2bbl BITD. The cheap area of the interior was the lower door panel plastic and the weird rubber texture arm rests, which if I'm not mistaken was the first generation of a formed plastic door portion for GM.
@Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we11 ай бұрын
We had a '73 & a '72 or 2 '73s in the early 1980s, dad got these cars so cheap. He ended up buying so many Grand Villes (& more Bonn), and putting 301s in all of them for my mom & 4 older sisters, they'd get upper teens mpg. One all maroon inside & out, one dark brown with cream vinyl top. (Interesting to see years later other people got these same colored cars). Adam's right. I rode in brand new hondas in the '80s & '90s my sisters bought; they couldn't hold a candle to how much smoother the ride is in a Grand Ville, or how quiet the big Pontiac is inside, especially going over small bumps.& potholes, even a little washboard once in a while living in a small Nebraska town without paved streets at the time, you'd barely feel all those bumps and holes, and the difference in noises & rattles a new honda would make going over any of the slightest bumps or potholes vs. virtually none in the Pontiac.
@tombrown1898 Жыл бұрын
There was a political science professor at my college who went to look at the new cars for 1973. He went to the Pontiac dealer in town and told the salesman what he was looking for. The salesman showed him a green Grand Ville 2-door. "Who wants a green car?!' he responded. But he agreed to take it for a drive. Twenty minutes later he returned and said, "SOLD." Bought it on the spot. That was a time when someone with a decent job could do that.
@mateuszkaminski1172 Жыл бұрын
Before all of the lefties regulations
@dadsc10 Жыл бұрын
my oldest sister purchased a new in 72 grandville coupe, it was a really nice car, it was the year for quite a few new cars in our family i was very young but always a car nut even then, mom and dad purchased our 1969 impala from my moms good friend that traded her cars every 3 years she purchased a new 72 impala custom coupe, our impala that i had until 1993 only had 10,000 miles on the clock in 72 at the time we purchased it, and my second sister purchased a new 72 Buick skylark coupe, all gone now, but i retain my 72 lincoln continental :) all original, sister to your black coupe Adam, although mine is a sedan, but all original :) , another great video as always my friend , thank you
@geneschweiss4872 Жыл бұрын
I love these Grandvilles a family friend had a brand new 73 2dr white interior lite blue met paint. With a 455 ,that car was amazing 👏 💙 fast and ice cold A/C .Talk about top end fast like 125 mph 😳 👌 still Quite and smooth even at illegal Speed. Hahaha 😆 those were the days. Thanks for the memories.
@mcsg_pelecan Жыл бұрын
In 1973 I did an exhaust job on a 71 Grand Ville on my back in the garage... I remember having a heck of a time hanging those long pipes! The owner was a heavy smoker, I'm sure he used all of the lighters!
@ChrisPervelis Жыл бұрын
You bring up a great point about interiors. Earlier Pontiac interiors were some of the best, absolutely beautiful in some cases.
@cargo4441 Жыл бұрын
Hey buddy how about a recording of that 455 qudrajet sound for a trip to the past love that q jet sound. LOVE Your 📹 📹 videos Thanks
@steves9905 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I was lucky to have driven both '70-earlier and '71-later full size Pontiacs, and the '71- later just rode and drove so nice, but were a lot plainer than the earlier...the interiors reflect the industry's unfortunate full-on embrace of injection molded plastic...the darker colors and rally II wheels brighten them up on the outside tho. I have a '75 Grand Ville convertible and it no doubt is a little shakier than the already shaky hardtops, but it does ride very nice and the RTS helps the big ol boat get through traffic cleanly.
@kevinvoyer5053 Жыл бұрын
Oh the memories! From 73-76 I was stationed in Ft. Carson, CO. At the time I bought a fairly nice 71 Grand Ville Conv., off of a Sgt I worked under. It was very similar to the dark blue, but mine was red, with wire/red interior with bench seats and arm rests. There was also AM/FM, AC and power windows and locks. Powered by a 455, 2 brl, that I changed to a 4 brl with dual exhaust really woke it up. Then a couple friends helped change the complete rear axle assembly, that I picked out of a Safari Wagon with a posi rear.
@misterwhipple2870 Жыл бұрын
The absolute pinnacle was the '76 Grand Ville. The last of its breed. But you had to be rich to afford the gas!! I would have one today if I could find one!
@goldismoney58999 ай бұрын
My father had a 71 Pontiac Grandville in great condition, black. I ran it into a telephone pole while blacked out, new year eve around 1989. I was 18. I totaled the car. the headlights were looking at each other. I had no injuries. He took me to the junk yard to look at it. I paid him $1000 dollars for what I had done. Great car. The back end was so light that in the winter we put cement blocks in the trunk to keep it from fish tailing.
@matrox Жыл бұрын
A neighbor had one of these back in the 70s.
@ScottAbgekurtz Жыл бұрын
Your poor long suffering wife 😁. She must be the most patient person to tolerate all of your mistresses that you have in your cars. You’d better hold onto her and give her what she wants.
@dave1956 Жыл бұрын
Normally I would say that an old car costs less than a human mistress (especially the divorce) but in this case I don’t think so. That’s a lot of mistresses.
@robertvincent562 Жыл бұрын
Jay Leno (who I've read is happily married) once quipped, I could never get divorced, my wife would get half of my cars..!
@danilvinyukov2060 Жыл бұрын
@@robertvincent562 Thats why celebrities have "accidents"
@SeaTravelr123 Жыл бұрын
😂
@SeaTravelr123 Жыл бұрын
@@HemiChrysler lol. Despite my hopes, I recall him mentioning her. My dream guy is someone who likes to travel and loves cars 🤷🏻. Adam would be perfect but…….
@sooverit5529 Жыл бұрын
Adam, I would love to see a video on a truly luxurious and fully equipped car, the beautiful 1963-64 Chrysler New Yorker Salon. The list of standard equipment tops Imperial, Lincoln and Cadillac. It bet it even topped a Rolls Royce of the day, as it came with power everything, AC, cruise, FM, reclining seats.
@mrBILL-sr2cu Жыл бұрын
On the 1964 Salon, there was one option, and that was the new for 1964, adjustable steering wheel.
@DJMCREATE Жыл бұрын
In HS I Drove a '72 Grand Ville. One of my fave sounds was kicking down into passing gear and having the Carb's secondaries kick in. Seems you could watch the gas gauge go down! Loved that 455, I drove that tank like a sports car! Loved not having the door posts, when all the windows were down was a huge open space, lots of air flow.
@derekscarrsr2688 Жыл бұрын
My aunt and uncle had a 1971 Silver black vinyl top 400 4barell that car had crazy torque.😎🔥💯
@bradb1474 Жыл бұрын
I used Grandvilles to tow same size cars over 300 miles up and over the Pocono Mts for years! Never had one fail!
@CH67guy1 Жыл бұрын
I see Toronado in that Grand Ville front end. And Eldorado style bladed front fenders. A former neighbor of mine had a white Grand Ville convertible with white interior. It was beautiful and gave the illusion of being 20 feet long!
@2201Duluth Жыл бұрын
that dark blue convertible is absolutely gorgeous.
@InTeCredo Жыл бұрын
I saw Grand Ville convertible in Munich and was surprised that the owner managed to parallel park the gargantuan car!
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
When you are in a desperate rush for a giant pretzel, it is amazing what you can accomplish.
@craigcricket7932 Жыл бұрын
I purchased a 1 owner 1973 Grand Ville Convertible 7-31-21. Loving it.
@bigjoe330 Жыл бұрын
My beloved Grandfather traded in his '63 Pontiac Catalina for a '71 Grandville 4 door. Unfortunately he never drove it much because he got cancer and passed the following year. It was blue with a blue interior and a black roof. My Grandmother gave the car to my Mother and she carted us kids around for years in that car. My Dad then bought her a new car and he took the Grandville. He repainted it and took care of that car until he traded in on a used '82 Imperial in '85. I remember the car was very powerful and roomy but not overly luxurious. It served our family well for many years and was very reliable if l remember. It also reminded us of our beloved "Poppy" every time we were in it. I sure wish we had kept it. ❣️
@pjmasteraseclassic Жыл бұрын
I bought a used 1971 Grandville from my high school auto shop teacher back in 1982. I Loved the car. The 455 cubic inch engine performed some great tire smoke jobs (I was 17 then). Anyway, after having it for about 4 months, I made some repairs, cleaned it up and sold it to make some money. I currently own two Chevys a 1970 and 1971 low mileage Impalas in beautiful condition. No, I don't drive these cars like I was 17. However, have owning 1-69, 1-70, 4-71s, 1-73 and 2-76s I have to disagree with Adam regarding the ride quality on 71-76 GM B bodies. My 70 rides like a brick with a hard cushioned vinyl bench seat whereas the 71 is a much smoother riding experience with soft comfortable seats. Either way, the GM B body cars make great cruisers. Nice car Adam!
@RareClassicCars Жыл бұрын
The 71s have a nice ride, but they tend to jiggle!
@tonyrobinson4434 Жыл бұрын
I learned to drive using a 1971 Bonneville. This was factory 455, 4brl, dual exhaust. The car was slightly tweeked for performance. The car had more power then a modern truck. It was fun to drive for 16 year old 1983.
@JosephStJames2000 Жыл бұрын
My older brother had this Pontiac in the 1970s. He actually measured it against his best friend's Caddy. The Pontiac won. (Calling Dr. Freud.) And for a huge vehicle, it flew down those Los Angeles freeways like a bullet. It was the perfect car for that time and place.
@mononeo Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how you're churning out so many videos so quickly, but I'm into it. Growing up in the PNW in the late 80s, early 90s the American old "boats" were always derided as horrendous and unreliable land yachts that were to be made fun of... My parents never owned anything from GM except for two hand-me-down cars that I hated as a kid: 1982 Cutlass and 1984 Regal--both coupes. Now, looking back, I'm not sure why I thought they were so embarrassing and crappy. Your videos have sparked a dormant interest in the history of GM and the American auto industry at large. Thank you!
@alantrimble2881 Жыл бұрын
It seems like he's been cranking out the videos since the beginning of Thanksgiving week. Maybe he hoards his vacation time and takes much of it around the Thanksgiving/Christmas holidays? Shame on you for looking down on G-body coupes! They weren't great cars in stock form, but GM sold a shitload of them and just about any engine from any GM division would fit in them. I had a 1980 Cutlass with an Olds 350 2bbl. from a 1970 Delta 88. It had a 260 V-8 and a TH200 transmission when it was new. The 260 spit out the timing chain, so I bought it from my grandmother for peanuts. I built a TH350 trans for it & drove the shit out of it. It had a 2.29:1 rear axle ratio. It would do 60 MPH in first gear! Honestly, many of the malaise era cars WERE embarrassingly crappy. None of the domestic manufacturers could figure out how to build a decent subcompact car until GM introduced the J cars in 1982. And the allegedly "highest quality" 1982 J- car was a Cimarron, which was a tarted up Cavalier with Cadillac tail lights and shittier build quality than the least expensive cars offered by the Germans or the Japanese manufacturers.
@robk9685 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I worked for a Seattle based company in the Detroit area. Many Seattle natives moved to Michigan for the automotive contract. Most of them were soooo cool (sarcasm). This was 1998. One drove a Saab and was complaining that he wished cars has a mute button for the radio, I'm assuming for when taking phone calls etc. I mentioned my 1990 Olds Touring Sedan has a mute button on the steering wheel, years ago obviously. He did mention his parents had a '75 Grand Prix and it was so cool. This came up when in 1998 I found a '75 Grand Prix SJ for sale with the original window sticker on it but couldn't buy it because the deposit check I left for a '98 Z28 convertible had just cleared the bank. He loved the Z28 too and mentioned that I ordered it "the way it was meant to be" (without the ground effects package and other add on garbage). Anyway, my summary was they tried way too hard to be "different" to almost a silly extent when what they were looking or really wanted for was right in their faces.
@markwoodley712 Жыл бұрын
I remember a grade school teacher who had both a convertible version and a hardtop coupe, both I thought were an acquired taste in appearance and I preferred my French teacher's Mazda RX-3 coupe.
@fleetwin1 Жыл бұрын
These were beautiful cars, even with the cost cutting to interior finishes. I always like the wrap around dash as well. And yes, Pontiacs always did seem to be well put together.
@tonywestvirginia Жыл бұрын
The front of this one looks like a woodpecker!
@Soxruleyanksdrool Жыл бұрын
@@tonywestvirginia a woodpecker? As in a hickory dickory?
@SeaTravelr123 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this agsin, makes me excited to finish my two 71s to drive them
@askgregtherealtor Жыл бұрын
had a 72 catalina with the 400 but only two barrel. i put duals on it and top end was about 125. the duals added top end and made it sound great. I had it in College in 1976-78. A buddy loved it so I sold it to him after graduation. Got a Vette.
@stevebirakis3775 Жыл бұрын
My dad bought 72 Grandville white gold pin strips with beige color interior they called neutral GM could put it in any color car and it would match .
@cellpat2686 Жыл бұрын
These were unloved in their time and as we see them today, more than 50 years later, we can appreciate the beauty of their design. I was a kid in those days and while my parents had a Chevrolet, you always knew someone who had one of these.
@joekool1907 Жыл бұрын
Back in the early 80s, I had a black 2 door 75 GrandVille coupe, with the 455, I raced my coworker at least 8 times, he was driving his moms 1977 Chrysler Newport with a 440, I won every time. We would race for 5 to 10 miles on some narrow country roads, how Im still here is a miricle!
@kevinz8930 Жыл бұрын
Nice ride. Thanks for sharing the history. Enjoyable and interesting. I had a 1970 Grand Prix with a 455 in 1978-79 and I loved it.
@Stan-rj8ki Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing and gorgeous car!
@ronaldmiller2740 Жыл бұрын
HI ADAM ,,GREAT VIDEO I ALWAYS LIKED THESE CARS BIG AND SMOOTH RIDE ,, THE BODY STYLE EVEN THE GRILL WITH THE NOSE WAS PONTIAC'S STYLE IN THOSE DAYS 60-70S THE LEMAN'S ALSO .. WE WOULD LIKE A VIDEO ON YOUR PONTIAC ONE DAY ,, SEEING THE AD'S ARE GREAT!! THAT WAS A GREAT CHASE SCENE IT SEEMED LIKE IT WENT ON FOR EVER I CANT REMEMBER IF IT WAS SAN FRANCISCO??? STREETS... THANK'S FOR THIS GREAT VIDEO..
@randyfitz8310 Жыл бұрын
We had a Grand Safari station wagon in the family very comfortable; the 455 didn’t work hard.
@ReignForest Жыл бұрын
Thank You Adam another great factual and historical video
@btg1958 Жыл бұрын
I thing the 1990 Pontiac Bonneville SSE was really both the most luxurious and one of the sportiest large Pontiac sedans ever built - really amazing compared to what else was on the market.
@richardchambers3533 Жыл бұрын
I had a 73 Grandville. The thing was a tank! Smooth ride👍
@desertmodern7638 Жыл бұрын
Great segment. The artist-rendered 1967 Pontiac at the beginning is notable for its exposed non-butterfly wipers, a configuration at odds with what hit production, at least in the US.
@RareClassicCars Жыл бұрын
Canada didn’t get the butterfly wipers
@rogergoodman8665 Жыл бұрын
I almost bought a maroon 1975 Grandville with fender skirts and the 400 engine. It was just a little too rough body wise for me at the time and I also was hoping to find one with a 455 engine. Never did though.
@markdc1145 Жыл бұрын
Had to watch the 7-ups car chase after watching this. Didn't know '70s Pontiacs handled so well! 😂
@markwilliams5606 Жыл бұрын
This was the Drivers Ed. Car I learned to drive. Today it's little Rice Burners. What a Drag
@anonlarson2875 Жыл бұрын
When I was a little kid, my parents had a 1971 Catalina w 455.
@bryandouglass9997 Жыл бұрын
My mother had 1972 2d grand ville..455 standard ....with the trailer package was a runner. I gapped a super bee in the quarter.
@commotoed Жыл бұрын
I had a 72 Catalina 4-door base car but a great Expressway car.
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Adam, I think it is safe to say that as fine as your '71 Grand Ville may be, it can never match the elegance and solidity of the pinnacle Pontiacs from the mid-60s. 😁
@TheSpritz0 Жыл бұрын
Pontiac was a GREAT car until 1977 when GM completely badge-engineered the entire GM line, there was an exact car in Chevy, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Buick (and MOST Cadillacs) that you easily detect... look at the Chevy MONZA- Pontiac had the Sunbird, Oldsmobile Starfire and Buick Skyhawk (ALL the same with minor cosmetic changes!!!)
@davidoliver6597 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I LOVE 60's Pontiacs up to and including the 1970 models. In 71 they were just bloated Chevrolets. Uglier though. This is my least favorite Pontiacs, the Grandville. Hate the front end and the headlamps. Just awful. Loved the 77 Grand Prix and even the downsized Grand Prix. Really liked the 1980 and 81 (last of the true full size Pontiacs). I owned a 1978 Grand Lemans and a brand new 1992 Bonneville SE Sport package.
@ThisCarChannel Жыл бұрын
The 73s front end with that slightly domed hood curving down to the grille reminds me a lot of the front end design of some large 1930s cars.
@RealHeyMark Жыл бұрын
There's something about the old big Pontiacs -- any of them -- that just warms my GenX heart. You couldn't have paid me to drive one when I was 17. But at 51? I want!
@007fredh Жыл бұрын
My dad bought a 73 Grandville 455 four-door dealer demo car. In 1978 I wanted to buy a 69 Chevelle and my dad said no instead I’ll give you the 73 . Needless to say, I wasn’t happy. First thing I did was go out and take off those fender skirts. You have to remember this was in the late 70s and then put on dual exhaust coming out in front of the back wheels with thrush mufflers. Then I put on a set of hijacker rear air shocks.😂 we called it the white whale it was the greatest sounding car I have ever owned ,probably didn’t look too good though. The backseat was like having a bedroom at the drive-ins.
@RadggsAutomotive Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed all the tidbits of 'close to the vest' info. At 3:15, did you notice the resemblance of the wheels on the TA proposal to the stock C7 wheels? Tidbit that you probably know, Ed Welburn's first contribution of design that made it to production were the 73 Grand Ville taillights.
@pacz8114 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative and enjoyable presentation.
@johneckert1365 Жыл бұрын
I've got a 72 Grand Ville in my junkyard. Way too rusty to do anything with, but still fun to see it sitting there. I believe it's got a 400 rather than the 455
@norton750commando Жыл бұрын
A buddy's dad had one of these, and us as newly minted drivers in the mid 70's delighted in the surprising speed of it. Nothing like 5 17 year olds hooning a boat around the highways and biways.
@standbyjeff Жыл бұрын
I never understood why Pontiac, if they were in fact trying to go upscale, removed power windows from the list of standard equipment and also did away with the power window switches being located in the armrest. I thought the 69-70 Bonneville Brougham models seemed much more luxurious.
@fearsomebeard4290 Жыл бұрын
One of my best friends in high school and his brother were both given a convertible Grand Ville as their first cars. One night when the two brothers were out for a drive in one of the two matching cars, they were on a winding country road and the car flipped killing both of them instantly. They were the only two children of their parents. It was a horrible experience. I tried to go to my friend’s funeral but was turned away at the door as it was my friend that was driving that night and I was sternly told at the door that the family felt I was a bad influence on their son and was not welcome near their family ever again. Needless to say I do not have a pleasant association with Pontiac’s Grand Ville.
@dennyny8 Жыл бұрын
Memories! Our family car was a 1971 Pontiac Catalina Grand Safari Station Wagon. It had the exact same front. Really, why car companies back then had so many models of seemingly the same exact car? It was dizzying, all these models.
@nomebear Жыл бұрын
In the south and hotter climates the GM door cards were made from a type of plastic that would disintegrate for U.V. exposure. The color would bleach out, the molded plastic would give off an odor that smelled like a dirty human. The glass inside the cars would coat with the oily off gas making it difficult to keep them clean.