The most mind-boggling diesel acceleration you've ever seen.. Wait for it! (Class 185) - Departure -

Back to my trip to The UK, where I set out to capture the plethora of diesel powered units the central UK has to offer, today bringing the workhorse of Trans Pennine Express (TPE); The class 185.
I always knew these units were quite powerful, but I never realised how fast they can get away. All seemed pretty as usual until the unit fired off another gear, which just left me mindblown. Look at that ridiculous acceleration as soon as the second unit passes us. Amazing!
Beautiful scenery by the way, at the station of Huddersfield. 🥰
- Tuesday, the 25th of October, 2022

[@theblockybanana5537]

Welcome to the uk, we do diesels right

[@TrainsbyM]

Well here we have an absolute truth. There are so many countries who have produced great, gréat diesel units (and locomotives), but even I, a Dutchee, Dutchman, someone from The Netherlands; will always see- and always refer to The UK...: As thé land of the diesel. 🍀❤️

[@w_avor]

Pacers: 💀💀💀💀💀

[@theblockybanana5537]

@@w_avor literally, they are dead.

[@TrainsbyM]

@@w_avor hahahahahaha those were something special as well. 😂 Shame I just barely didn't get to see the Pacers in service.. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

HST go brrrrrr

[@MervynPartin]

Wow! A Trans Pennine Express train that hasn't been cancelled- you were lucky to get that shot. Impressive, though.

[@TrainsbyM]

Haha, so I've understood. But yeah! ☺️

[@garymcteer7620]

😂 you’re not wrong, subsidies for their shareholders haven’t been cancelled tho’ 👍

[@ohgosh5892]

I now realise that they are so fast, I simply do not see them... whoosshhh there goes the York train...

[@markwalker2627]

Its in a hurry because its late...like my reply😅

[@MervynPartin]

@@markwalker2627 🤣

[@gazratjackson]

Torque has entered the chat 🚆

[@TrainsbyM]

Exactly!!

[@sirjohng1]

On the Line out of London to Southend in the thirties special steam locos were made that had very fast acceleration specially to run the short distances between the stations in the Rush Hours with minimum journey times.

[@bildo99ify]

Torque, por qué? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@andrewbarker8027]

The TPE 185 engines were specifically designed to cope with the hilly routes they work. Designed for purpose and very good units. You will see similar acceleration from a Class 68 hauled set - but that's expected from a loco. These underslung engines are very robust.

[@TrainsbyM]

And it shows! During my next trip to the UK I'll definitely try and capture more class 68 hauled TPEs, or Nova 3 sets!

[@CSS_Code]

Plus the 185 doesn't use full acceleration until they get to around 20mph.

[@Solomon_C]

No the 68 set is slower.

[@andrewbarker8027]

@@Solomon_C slower what? Slower acceleration? Have you compared them?!

[@Solomon_C]

​@@andrewbarker8027 There is a video of the 68 set accelerating 0-60 in 83 seconds. Unfortunately YT doesn't like links being posted. A 185 takes 68 seconds.

[@Class777]

I can certainly agree! I love the 185’s, they’re so underrated for what they can do!

[@TrainsbyM]

Bizar, right? I didn't know what I just saw. 😮 Already had been on a couple of rides on these, which were exceptionally comfortable and powerful, but man what power!

[@joshtaylor7881]

They have Voyager engines (Cummins QSK 19). Unlike the Voyagers which have electric traction motors to drive the wheels, the 185s have a 3 stage Voith transmission. Very very nice trains indeed. I spent many happy hours working them as a conductor

[@johnhodges7891]

Was this 3 years ago when we had trains .. love looking back at history 🚂

[@TrainsbyM]

Is it really that bad? 😕

[@ajbonmg]

The final carriage takes two seconds to pass the camera. At fractionally under 78 feet long, this means that the train is travelling at 26.6 mph when the rear cab passes the camera. And still accelerating - so roughly 30 mph by the time the whole train has left the platform.

[@TrainsbyM]

Thanks for the math! 😄

[@madm4tty]

I think we need a weight figure to appreciate this more

[@GamingRobioto]

​@@TrainsbyM *maths

[@unitedrail-mainchannel8991]

Did bro get a Grade 9 in Physics or what 😂

[@bendixon3013]

⁠@@madm4tty Coach A (54 car) is 54t Coach B (53 car) is 52t Coach C (51 car) is 56t Total 162t Power handle goes 1,2,3,4,Max However, max is the same as notch 4 until the unit reaches 20mph in which it will rev the engines to 2100rpm at 752hp/523kw

[@SabotsLibres]

Quite impressive... I remember in the late eighties getting a delayed HST from the West Country back to Reading on a Sunday evening - on joining the Western Mainline we were treated to the most impressive acceleration I had ever experienced to that point, with the feeling of a good shove in the back (and only the TGV has really beaten it since).

[@TrainsbyM]

Absolutely, especially considering that diesel powered train sets have a lot less power to deal with getting off their place, than electric train sets do. Electric trains also have the added bonus of continuous torque as well, ofcourse. On terms of the fastest accelerators, I'd say those hyper modern emu sprinter, commuter and/or express classes find themself at the top. Our (The Netherlands) Stadler FLIRTs for example or the German Siemens Desiro HC. And I'm pretty sure there are some very worthy UK contenders as well, while the new Hitachi intercity sets are very quick in electric mode as well! This all is with the exception of unrestricted single locomotives ofcourse. Those puppies can reach near car like acceleration. 😂

[@SabotsLibres]

@@TrainsbyM Yes, the FLIRTs are renowned for their acceleration and rather put the original 1975 Sprinter stock to shame. Ach. Zo is 't leven!!!!

[@TrainsbyM]

@@SabotsLibres Ha, die zag ik niet aankomen! 😁 Quite truly so. 😄 They're actually tuned down quite a bit as well, at full power their absolutely crazy!

[@Trainman10715]

@@SabotsLibres they certainly dont put the sprinters to shame on the reliability front though, not by a long shot. theres also no sprinters from 1975, no where near that

[@andreasgiannopoulos1204]

Pragtig

[@david103857]

It's quite rare for them to have all their engines working! But yes Hydraulic transmission with 750hp per car is a LOT of power!

[@TrainsbyM]

It definitely is, quite the sight!

[@transportlegend.shorts]

Impressive! That’s why I love 185s

[@TrainsbyM]

Absolutely impressive!!

[@jonathanparle8429]

That's incredible. I've never seen any train accelerate like that.

[@TrainsbyM]

I was very impressed as well! By now I have come by an even faster DEMU acceleration, but I'm keeping that one on the shelves for a bit longer. 😊 Thanks for your comment!

[@ncard00]

EMU's are faster of course, metro trains and S-trains, soæe regional trains, and maglev trains, considering their insane top speed.

[@jonathanparle8429]

@@TrainsbyM Probably the closest thing we have here in Australia are the Endeavour diesel sets that now mark 30 years in service. They pull really well, have an excellent ride and feel quite luxurious to ride in. I used to travel in them from work to home in the 90s when they were new and the driver really opened it up once they got clear of the congestion leaving Sydney heading south. Even at the speed limit of 130 kmh they just felt completely effortless.

[@reecyvidz]

I love hearing these through tunnels! ❤

[@TrainsbyM]

I can totally understand!!!

[@reecyvidz]

🖖😍

[@robertgrace241]

Listen to that thing purr like a kitten.....Beautiful.....Definitely sounds clean.....

[@TrainsbyM]

Absolutely!! Just marvelous!! 🥰

[@landshut181]

Thats massively impressive

[@TrainsbyM]

Sure is!!

[@RailJapanStory]

Excellent video😃⤴️⤴️Fantastic train and beautiful station😉👍️✨Thank you for sharing :)

[@TrainsbyM]

Thank you very much for your support!!🍀🍀

[@darracqboy]

As someone who’s lived in the uk, this looks pretty normal to me tbh

[@TrainsbyM]

That's all fine!

[@FOH3663]

Mind Boggled ...

[@TrainsbyM]

😏😏

[@logicalthinker316]

And we still have 'tractors' built in the 60's working hard, long live diesel

[@TrainsbyM]

And until recently even in regular passenger service!! Long live diesel!

[@doncoffey5820]

Nice footage. On six engines they go quite well.

[@TrainsbyM]

If anyone could know, it's you! Thanks for the reply, Don. 😄

[@andrewbarker8027]

Here's the 185 man himself!

[@finnromy6304]

Good to see the cloaking device is working well too👍

[@Martin_TrainSpotter]

Epic sound!

[@TrainsbyM]

Absolutely!!!

[@ojaschandegave]

It has amazing acceleration while also not sounding like a damn vaccum cleaner or in other words, it sounds hella good

[@TrainsbyM]

Yeah, they're pretty great units! 🥳

[@AdamTaylor-RDL]

My hometown is Huddersfield, the 185s are really very good for the routes they do, as with most stock in that area of Northern England, they're very useful for inclines, along with the Class 333 EMU's. The only downside of those 185s... they're so very small seat wise for that section of the network at peak time, and sometimes off-peak too, a lot of standing room only trains.

[@TrainsbyM]

I guess they were made more for express services than for commuter services, being a bit more focused on comfort over capacity. As far as I know there is the option to couple three of them, but I don't know how that pans out on most stations.

[@AdamTaylor-RDL]

@@TrainsbyM I've never seen more than 2 coupled together, at least that was also in revenue service. The entire section of track between Manchester & Leeds (dubbed the 'Huddersfield line') is an absolute nightmare, and one of the busiest corridors on the network, with a huge increase in passengers in the last 2 decades, but the trains and also signal capacity hasn't really been able to keep up to be able to deliver trains with enough frequency. Transpennines new trains have much more capacity but often only work specific routes. The 185s originally did more longer journeys, but now often do stopping services along the route, previously operated by Northern. All of TPE's trains are quite pleasant to be on, unlike some other new trains that have... very uncomfortable seats.

[@theblockybanana5537]

This is northern England the max we couple together for passenger service is 2

[@TrainsbyM]

@@theblockybanana5537 Yup, so I've understood, but theoretically the 185 is able to drive in operation of 3 units coupled, as was explained to me. ☺️

[@AdamTaylor-RDL]

@@theblockybanana5537 On 185's yes, anything longer wouldn't fit onto most of the smaller stations like Ravensthorpe & Brough, although 185's are rated for up to 12 carriages tied together, 9 in passenger service, and they do have unit door blocking (a type of selective door operation) to block doors at smaller stations. In terms of over 2 trains together though I've seen East Midlands Railway tie 4 153's together to get a pretend 155 setup after one was out of service, and old Northern when it was Serco/Abellio rarely tied 3 Pacers together, as well as 156/150+142+142 on Leeds - Sheffield runs during peak. In theory 15X's are rated for being joined up to 12 cars total, but I personally have never seen one so big, outside of doing last day empties to depots on Christmas Eve.

[@Roybwatchin]

And, not one sign of black smoke anywhere that I could see. Those turbos were spooled up for sure. Nice video.

[@TrainsbyM]

Pretty amazing to see no smoke at all on these sets! Thank you very much! 😊

[@313rail]

Best DMUs. Change my mind.

[@pauljohnson4590]

In the East, we had a couple of years, waiting for the new stock when two class 37's with three coaches would be up to line speed b y the time the second unit was out of the station. I think the drivers had great fun with two 37s and hardly any load. Those things could really accelerate.

[@TrainsbyM]

That sounds really great! I guess that was where the 755s took over?

[@Jas-ym8dz]

Class 68s as well at one point

[@samuelsmith9586]

Wow that's impressive!

[@TrainsbyM]

Sure was!!

[@ChapatiMan]

Damn the train accelerated

[@TrainsbyM]

Sure damn did!!

[@Martindyna]

If the uploader will allow it here's a related good video of an XPT that is running late and is presumably trying to make up time. The driver appears to be notching up as fast as he can and the lower traction motor gearing (compared to the Class 43; XPT design speed is 160 km/h) and only 5 cars help. Also note the more vocal exhaust note of the VP185 installation in the XPT. Search KZbin 'Trains | NSW TrainLink | Move Over V Set, XPT Coming Through!' Engines are Paxman VP185 (original Valentas upgraded around 2000).

[@TrainsbyM]

Go right ahead!

[@Martindyna]

@@TrainsbyM Thanks for accepting my suggestion, I hope you enjoy it.

[@jw4620]

Snappy!

[@TrainsbyM]

🤩

[@williambaron5717]

Each unit has 750hp per engine (one under each coach) so each 3 coach unit has 2,250hp, two units together is 4,500hp!

[@TrainsbyM]

Quite the power!

[@SL-Kanalen24]

Truck or supercar engine?

[@andypreston1524]

Same power output as an HST then 👍👍

[@andypreston1524]

​@@SL-Kanalen24Cummins QSK19......19 litre straight 6....752bhp each.

[@jadethornton7975]

This video is insane. I really love how the train was just standing at the station. Then it started, it moved abit. Then it left the station. I mean we have trains in Australia but not trains that stand at stations and then begin to move, then leave the station. This absolutely blew my mind. I won't be able to get this out of my head all day. What's next in this beautifully crazy world? A moving car?? That would be cool to see.

[@TrainsbyM]

Bizar, right? 😂😂😂

[@dessmith7658]

The station was also moving, that helped

[@TrainsbyM]

@@dessmith7658 fastest station in The UK

[@dessmith7658]

Faster than fairies, faster than witches Bridges and houses, hedges and ditches; And charging along like troops in a battle All through the meadows the horses and cattle; All of the sights of the hill and the plain Fly as thick as driving rain; And ever again in the wink of an eye, Painted stations whistle by.

[@jadethornton7975]

​@@dessmith7658 i loove this

[@supertram1032]

This is why I love 185s

[@TrainsbyM]

Amazing units!

[@rickbullock4331]

Diesel-Electric ramps up lots of torque immediately and it’s not a very long passenger train. Good speed too.

[@TrainsbyM]

It is good speed, even though it isn't the longest of trains... It is however a diesel-hydraulic power transmission!

[@nomad_grj]

every single coach has a diesel engine? damn

[@TrainsbyM]

Yup!

[@NathanElcoate]

Crazy.

[@TrainsbyM]

Sure is!

[@tommykairazz]

Great one!

[@TrainsbyM]

Thanks!!

[@stephensmith799]

I wish all the seats on all trains lined up squarely with windows

[@PioneerPauly]

Hello, is this still available?

[@TrainsbyM]

I'm sorry? What do you mean?

[@ridleycombs]

Multiple units! Distributed power is a hell of a drug.

[@TrainsbyM]

It clearly is!

[@frankrogowski5608]

The best diesel units ever built!

[@TrainsbyM]

Yeah, they're pretty great!!

[@petergaskin1811]

In Germany - Siemens.

[@mastri-handoyo]

Cool train

[@isaacramsay7889]

The train accelerated so fast because it was empty due to everyone giving up on the company

[@TrainsbyM]

I know you're being salty, but that actually is good explanation for another video I shot. 😂

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

Just can’t afford the tickets.

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

Aged like a fine wine

[@Paradyski]

Love diesel locos

[@TrainsbyM]

Same, man!! 🙏🏼

[@xnopyt13]

Wow a diesel hydraulic train? Cool.

[@TrainsbyM]

Yup!! For a Dutchman like myself that's actually a reasonably common setup! Our old DM'90 and DH1/2 were also diesel-hydraulically set up. The Germans have quite a few of them as well, while the English also have a high-speed geared version of this engine deployed in their Class 180s (for speeds up to 125 mph or 200 kmh). Just to mention a few. ☺️

[@xnopyt13]

@@TrainsbyM nice. Thanks for the info.

[@TrainsbyM]

@@xnopyt13 you're welcome! 😄

[@JxH]

All the passengers were on a 'replacement bus service', so the train was empty. ;-) !!!

[@TrainsbyM]

Hahahaha. Nah, back in 22 they were still running regularly and very crowded. 😶‍🌫️

[@soupernutt9508]

NOT. This train is diesel-hydraulic. That is why it can accelerate quickly. It uses a torque converter-type arrangement. It's manufactured by Siemens Mobility, headquartered in Munich, Germany.

[@TrainsbyM]

You're absolutely right! But just as with the diesel-electric, it still is a diesel multiple unit! Looking at the nowadays diesel-mechanical transmissions however, they can just as easily pull this off, with their shifting gears. This one is close to 20 years old, though... Nonetheless they are all diesel multiple units in one way or another, and compared to the superior, in strength, electric multiple units, it still is downright impressive to me! No matter what the power transmission!

[@SN06BNF]

Wow, That Class 185 Looks Like The Double Variant In SCR.

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

Nae shite sherlock

[@SCRbros]

class 185. nice.

[@TrainsbyM]

🥳

[@alleywatch22]

Smooth Operater

[@bramjen13]

Nice!

[@TrainsbyM]

Thanks!!

[@Lee_303]

They should've ordered way more of these for places like Wales & Scotland.

[@sirjohng1]

On the Line out of London to Southend in the thirties special steam locos were made that had very fast acceleration specially to run the short distances between the stations in the Rush Hours with minimum journey times.

[@TrainsbyM]

That's awesome!!

[@petergaskin1811]

Modified SR U-class.

[@TheSamGrahamShow]

For a diesel train that’s not a light engine, that’s really fast!

[@TrainsbyM]

My thoughts exactly. 🤩

[@callumwhite2993]

Hi, wherever you’re visiting from, hope you had/are having a good time in the UK! 😊

[@TrainsbyM]

I've had an amazing time!! I'm from The Netherlands actually, where I am a train driver myself for the Dutch NS. My stay was last October, when I stayed at Sheffield and from there out, I roamed the Central UK! I'll be back somewhere in 2023! 😄

[@callumwhite2993]

@TrainsbyM cool! 😀

[@Rosie-gd2mn]

i love this train! Took it from Liverpool lime to Leeds :)

[@TrainsbyM]

Got to ride them a few times during my UK visit, they are indeed very great rides! 😄

[@Jk-oz5qn]

So this is what these mapped 1.9tdi’s pull like

[@TrainsbyM]

Yeah, something like that. 😂😜

[@RWL2012]

if this was one engine it would be a 114-litre 36-cylinder hexa-turbo Diesel 😜

[@TrainsbyM]

Oh my god, that needs to exist. 🤯

[@rockstarboy194]

thats a strong ass diesel acceleration alright

[@TrainsbyM]

Damn right!

[@kwsfilms618]

Truly mind boggling!"

[@TrainsbyM]

Sure was!! 😵

[@DaveysStuff]

The only dmu (diesel multiple unit) that can reach 125mph. They have two 750hp engines per unit. They can only operate on certain lines though as they have a habit of buggering certain infrastructure up due to their power and weight.

[@TrainsbyM]

Well I'm sure not gonna argue whether or not they cán reach 125, but this train is only allowed for 100 m/h, which is it's maximum service speed! The other trains equipped with these engines however, are allowed and can easily reach 125 m/h though!

[@FM60260]

750bhp per car with all engines on, plenty of power!

[@TrainsbyM]

Absolutely, what force!

[@edsloan]

This video is primed to be looped gradually getting faster and faster with a never ending train

[@TrainsbyM]

Make it happen... 😜

[@DarthCoco]

Makes me see the take off of a Chiltern train I.e. closest national rail to me, as slow indeed. It running on diesel, obviously!

[@TrainsbyM]

Chiltern does have some great stock though! Great loco hauled services, for example! I definitely will be checking out the franchise somewhere in the future...

[@DarthCoco]

@@TrainsbyM Well the blue stock (let me just refer it as that, because I like to) is one of my favourite stock and will always be! Currently Arriva (owners) are seeking 'lower emission' stock. Inevitable for sure :(

[@Arun-yl8kc]

Under the hood you'll find a Volkswagen TDI

[@TrainsbyM]

Hahahaha, with or without software to mask emissions? 😜

[@unitedrail-mainchannel8991]

Rail VTEC kicked in

[@TrainsbyM]

Definitely!!

[@southwesterntrainspotter1889]

Wow sure is mind boggling

[@TrainsbyM]

Hadn't seen something alike before!

[@TheUKTransportBlogger]

Can’t say I’ve been on a 185 using all 6 engines. Had a few 6car services only using 3/4 definitely can tell the difference.

[@TrainsbyM]

Should make quite the difference! That's a third to a half of its maximum power output, after all! 😁

[@TheUKTransportBlogger]

Had a 6 on full today kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqOVm4msbJKSns0 Hope you don’t mind I’ve linked your video in the description for the 185 lovers.

[@laytonb]

Our very own bullet train☺️😆

[@TrainsbyM]

Hahahaha, you can say that again!!

[@nickcowley5668]

Pretty impressive actually. Certainly quicker than a class 108 creaking its way up the bank to Exeter Central back in the day. 😂

[@TrainsbyM]

I can imagine. 😂

[@Retrohertz]

For a second, I thought you'd sped up the footage. Wow.

[@TrainsbyM]

I can totally understand that, but this train just gears up after the first few meters. Quite wild! You could say the train sped up its own footage. 😂

[@anthonychallis2472]

These are great units, I used to travel on them frequently from Leeds to Huddersfield and back. I had few cancelations but lots of lates! In the defence of TPE I would say that the on train staff were always nice, often making humorous announcements. On one occasion the announcement was about the train having to be taken out of service at Manchester as it was running out of fuel, the conductor said he couldn’t believe he was making such an announcement, but he assured passengers that a service would be at Manchester to take them onto Liverpool. Perhaps they should copy the idea that I have seen in the states where a fuel tanker is positioned on the platform to refuel the long distance services (1000’s of miles), not Cleethorps to Liverpool 😂.

[@brunaskarting116]

The good old QSK19 engines - no wonder they’re very nippy considering the type of train that they’re under!

[@TrainsbyM]

Quite love these engines as well, they come in quite a plethora of setups and almost all are or were great!

[@chuckmaddison2924]

From the perspective of someone that thinks the Indian Pacific is pretty good this is bloody awesome. Admittedly they have a different purpose.

[@TrainsbyM]

The Indian Pacific is pretty good though!!

[@user-oo8xp2rf1k]

Remember DMU's in the seventies. Diesel fumes, vibration enough to make your teeth fall out acceleration of a canal barge.

[@TrainsbyM]

Hahaha. Not much different here, though long before I was ever born!

[@user-oo8xp2rf1k]

@@TrainsbyM I actually miss the fumes. Probably gave me brain damage though. Hence weird train obsessions for life ..🤣

[@user-oo8xp2rf1k]

Modern stock is pretty impressive though.

[@Monty13Transport]

Wow

[@TrainsbyM]

Right? 🥳

[@owenyowenface]

Mmmm yes,not been on one for a few years though there is a chance to compare DMU acceleration on the Sheffield-Doncaster & Sheffield to Barnsey lines where,if you alight at Meadowhall you get the chance to choose from a number of options-local class 150 (utterley dreadfull),class 158,class 195 to Barnsley, Turbostar to Scarborough (my fav) or this long beauty to Cleethorpes.I do wish they would sort the PA at Meadowhall,it is awfull on all 4 platforms. Dont think the DMU acceleration is anywhere near the EMU equivalent though.I took the Ely to Cambridge line on a London Kings Cross service and it was so fast out of the platform it felt like it was going to come off the tracks going over points,rather alarming jolts from side to side at times.

[@TrainsbyM]

Sorry, overlooked this comment! That 195 is pretty feisty as well, I've noticed. Normally spoken diesel acceleration should by far be inferior to electric acceleration ofcourse. That's as well what makes this so mind boggling, almost daring to say on those few first meters in that second gear, the DMU might even win from the EMU, which would be pretty wild concerning the difference in power to an EMU. It wouldn't keep up though, clearly. 😁

[@madlad4912]

@@TrainsbyM 185s use Voith 3 speed gearboxes so it was stuck in first through that, they’re limited in power til 20MPH so that they can effectively put the power down without slip since the gears are short to help with said inclines in the north. You’re welcome for the info

[@TrainsbyM]

@@madlad4912 thanks! 😄

[@4vepvik781]

Impressive!!😅😅😅

[@kenstevens5065]

No sign of ladies running alongside waving hankies on sooty stations. A great improvement since those days. Pity at the moment the rail unions don't realise what they've got and like Parliament don't seem to realise that a lot of folks are genuinely hard up.

[@TrainsbyM]

Nonetheless I still captured that on one of my Meridian videos. 😂 They're still out there. 😜

[@BGFutureBG]

this sounds a lot like the DB class 612

[@TrainsbyM]

I'm pretty sure they have the same engines and both with a hydraulic transmission, so that makes sense!

[@jim1997330]

Reminds me of those badass DMU in Hokkaido, 450HP*2 per carriage~~~

[@TrainsbyM]

That sounds awesome!! Love to see that!

[@Ozzy-does-stuff]

German engineering never fails to impress

[@TrainsbyM]

Absolutely!!

[@kristinajendesen7111]

As an ex 159 and 170 (before we got rid of them), driver 😮

[@xaiano794]

170's are so sluggish - 159's i'm assuming handle like 158s and are much quicker (unless they had those garbage perkins engines)

[@kristinajendesen7111]

​@@xaiano794 400HP Cummins on the 159/0s and 350HP Cummins on the 159/1s. I didn't notice any particular difference in acceleration with the 158s. Where we measured the performance was going up Honiton bank. If you were doing 65mph by Honiton Tunnel you had a good unit, a bad one dropped off to 55 or even 50mph.

[@xaiano794]

@@kristinajendesen7111 Oh I agree there is no noticeable difference at higher speeds, but away from the platform 158s pick up much faster than 170's - i think it's like 10-15s per station difference which adds up

[@johnmartinez7440]

Still waiting for it...

[@TrainsbyM]

Just a little longer...

[@fatwalletboy2]

Think the camera angle makes it seem rapid but at the end the rear cab isnt moving so fast. One of those optical illusions.

[@TrainsbyM]

Angle is always a big part of how to capture what you exactly want to show, but nonetheless this was downright impressive!

[@KaushikBala333]

This is feather lite. Come to India and see EMD acceleration of passenger trains

[@TrainsbyM]

Always good!

[@coldisopropyl]

Wiki says the class 185 is a DHMU. Does it mean the diesel engine is directly connected to the transmission and wheels without any electric motors?

[@TrainsbyM]

Kinda! dhmu means diesel Hydraulic multiple unit. Meaning the engines go through a means of transitioning power through a hydraulic system. There is also a direct transmission variety which would be the genuine 'dmu'. They mostly go through at least 4 gears. The 195 for example. DEMUs and DHMU's engines work more like a generator, but they can have, but don't need, more than one gear. As far as my knowledge extends, that is. ☺️

[@petermichaelgreen]

BR tried mechanical transmissions for DMUs but had reliability problems. So moved to hydrodynamic transmissions (aka torque converters). Afaik most DMUs from the late BR and early privitisation era use hydrodynamic transmissions with a few intercity models using electric transmissions. The 195 seems to be a transmission similar to the automatic gearboxes used in automotive world that combines a torque converter with a 6 speed mechanical gearbox. IMO it's a travesty that bi-modes weren't specified when the 195s were ordered but the priority seemed to be to get new trains as cheap as possible.

[@RobmusFTW]

high speed electric rail- shrinkansen, KTX > nuff said.

[@TrainsbyM]

Yeah that really isn't a fair comparison..

[@LimitedWard]

Damn that's loud though.

[@TrainsbyM]

Diesel for ya!

[@garybridge-ku7bf]

I love these trains' much better than some of the new ones which are already being taken out of service. 😅

[@TrainsbyM]

The Nova 3 is looking away...

[@xaiano794]

@@TrainsbyM yeah too many people complained about noise - sadly the issue with the 185's is they were never designed to be diesel so they are far heavier and very uneconomical. less than 1mpg when running quickly.

[@cyborgsheep6077]

VERY COOL! it never ceases to amaze me how much of an improvement DMU rolling stock is compared to loco hauled trains a great comparison in addition to your video is UP express DMUs compared to GO transit consists UP express is waaayy better

[@TrainsbyM]

Yup, they're quite great!!

[@sirjohng1]

On the Line out of London to Southend in the thirties special steam locos were made that had very fast acceleration specially to run the short distances between the stations in the Rush Hours with minimum journey times. Max torque from the get-go.

[@philipkay8116]

Is the transmission hydraulic?

[@TrainsbyM]

It is!

[@andreasgiannopoulos1204]

Diesel RULEZ

[@TrainsbyM]

YEAAHH

[@Squareheed]

Same thing here in Northern Ireland and the ROI, we do diesel right haha

[@TrainsbyM]

For as far as I'm acquainted with your railways; you do!

[@anthonywarrener1881]

That’s normal !😊

[@Darth_Revan25]

Damn, for a diesel powered train, that's pretty impressive! (As much as I hate fossil fuel powered vehicles ha)

[@TrainsbyM]

Right!

[@LoneSheWolf09]

They weren’t hanging around😆🤣

[@TrainsbyM]

Definitely not!!

[@LoneSheWolf09]

@@TrainsbyM never realised they could take off that fast from the platform. Trains I been on take their time then gain pace once gets going😆🤣

[@TrainsbyM]

@@LoneSheWolf09 I was honestly very surprised as well. Especially since it's diesel powered!

[@LoneSheWolf09]

@@TrainsbyM my thoughts exactly it shot off like a pocket rocket😆🤣

[@doctordave12]

I'd be quick out of Huddersfield as well

[@TrainsbyM]

Haha, I thought the station area was pretty nice actually, but haven't seen the rest of the city..

[@joemercedeschannel196]

I love the 185 so much. I think it's the only diesel Desiro built by Siemens.

[@TrainsbyM]

Well definitely of this quality, but there is a regional Desiro in Germany and a couple of east European countries, as far as I know. Looks nothing like the 185, and definitely doesn't have the power of these units though! 😁

[@wordreet]

Your mind is clearly easily boggled.

[@TrainsbyM]

😂😂😂 had a good laugh about this comment. However, don't underestimate what a delight it is to be easily "boggled"... 😜

[@spacecowboy151]

Wait till you see the class 195s aswell

[@TrainsbyM]

Yup, those fire off like rockets as well!