The most OVERRATED aspect of photography is…

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@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
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@dda.visuals
@dda.visuals 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Emotions first! Period. Sharpness and Autofocus are in Photography what Autotune is in Music Production. I prefer 10000x a picture with some motion blur but where you can feel the emotions than a flat boring image that's in focus and pin-sharp!
@NorthBorneoLights
@NorthBorneoLights 2 жыл бұрын
Resolution, ISO, lower toneh value lenses, and all these incremental improvements is what sells cameras. That's what it's all been about. And literally thousands upon thousands of guys with cameras have fallen for the marketing - hook, line, and sinker.
@donflamingo795
@donflamingo795 2 жыл бұрын
Ah you mean higher toneh? Higher toneh = lower number
@donflamingo795
@donflamingo795 2 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget lens hood
@carolingrimaldi
@carolingrimaldi 2 жыл бұрын
me 2.
@TheWutangclan1995
@TheWutangclan1995 Жыл бұрын
That’s not how it works. They focus on it to inflate my G.A.S and then that causes me to buy all their stuff 😂. But you’re right all of these aspects are how they market to us.
@jaapkroonfotografie
@jaapkroonfotografie Жыл бұрын
We need a new sharpness standard.... the boring marketing sharpness and the beautiful sensual sharpness. How I love the sensuality from my all time favorite fujifilm 18mm F2
@myoung48281
@myoung48281 Жыл бұрын
digital images are much too sharp and have too much detail for my esthetic.Your courage got you me as a subscriber.
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor Жыл бұрын
Other thing that made me rant is the hate to the noise. Man, the noise can be part of your expression. There are cameras with pleasing noise (no blotchy noise, no paterns, no banding). I treat the color noise, but tend to let the luminance noise stay as a kind of grain. It works for me. Of course if you work for Vogue (fashion photography) the noise maybe is not allowed, but if you only want to create a powerful image then some high iso noise can be beneficial
@MichaelThorn
@MichaelThorn 2 жыл бұрын
agree so much - the old photographs of Queen Elizabeth II taken in the 1940s/50s illustrate this
@JaybPaule
@JaybPaule 2 жыл бұрын
I love this one! everytime I take a photo, and processing it, I always ask "what's the story?" "Whats happening?" "whats going on?" and don't rely much on post-processing because I invested so much time to learn setting properly and adapt on situations. I started shooting in the street with a point-and-shoot digicam, and a slr film camera, and its really frustrating hearing people ask about "whats your camera, whats your lens, whats your setting, whats your preset, i love the color how do you edit it, and more bs." . and sometimes, people will value you based on your gears than the art/stories you create/capture.
@MatthewOrtizTexas
@MatthewOrtizTexas Жыл бұрын
Devin photobombing! Ha! Very cool! Great video, btw!
@shahdawon7191
@shahdawon7191 2 жыл бұрын
@Dee Rosa I F*£$!%G love your videos...you came out to clean out the youtube Bull in Photography....your philosophy is on point....love it bro...
@AdrianBacon
@AdrianBacon 2 жыл бұрын
This video is spot on. Do I have f/1.2, f/1.4, and f/2 lenses? Absolutely. Do I shoot at 1.2, 1.4, and 2.0? Only when I have no other choice. I'm usually up at f/5.6 or f/8. Sometimes I'll go down to f/4, but shooting any more open than that, and I really have to justify it because the depth of field tends to be too shallow when shooting people. I like to have at least the from the front of the nose to the back of the ears acceptably in focus, and you just can't get there when your lens is wide open. There's a time and place for super shallow depth of field, but most of the time isn't it.
@Bocsaphoto
@Bocsaphoto 2 жыл бұрын
Wait so if sharpness doesn't matter and you shoot at f/5.6, why not just shoot with zoom lenses entirely
@AdrianBacon
@AdrianBacon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bocsaphoto Actually, I do. My go to lens when shooting portraits in the studio is 70-200mm. The only time I pull out the fast primes is when I'm shooting on location with available light or limited access to strobes and I know I'm going to need that additional light that the larger apertures will get me. I don't choose to shoot wide open for a super shallow depth of field most of the time, the choice to go with those lenses is mostly so that I can get correct exposure with a reasonable shutter speed and ISO setting, and even then, I try to keep it as stopped down as much as I can get away with.
@Pixelpeeps-69
@Pixelpeeps-69 2 жыл бұрын
For Astro and macro and wildlife yes we need sharpness but I agree for general photos as long as it’s in focus it’s good enough
@17cream
@17cream 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve refocused people on what is important, bravo 👏
@850Tech
@850Tech Жыл бұрын
People should go back and see really see and enjoy the classic photographs taken by some of the legends mentioned in this. And they might if they are lucky finally get over the social media marketing techno bs and enjoy fine art . Thank you for the video ma man !
@beaglekeeper
@beaglekeeper Жыл бұрын
After nearly 40 years as a hobbiest photographer who loves the digital cameras of today, I personally find many of them to be to sharp.They just don't seem natural to me. I love using old vintage manual focus lenses on these modern cameras for a more natural look. Great video !
@1iamstone
@1iamstone Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I will share this because you’ve explained this better than I ever could… Sadly folks are killing the art of it all….
@ernestogonzalez6175
@ernestogonzalez6175 2 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody who uses logic. Thanks for sharing this.
@Markusousa
@Markusousa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a real video, now a days most "KZbin" photographers are all about the latest and greatest, what is important is more and more megapixels, back in the times of like you said the GOAT, the cameras that they were using not even match the most level entry camera now a days and still took amazing photos.
@T-Prime848
@T-Prime848 2 жыл бұрын
Your KZbin channel has become one my favorites Well you know why Because you always speak the truth and only the truth. Sharpness is a subject many photographers care about more than usual Everyone these days want to get the most bigger sensor with a sharp lens Why Why well it’s like every one wants to catch the biggest fish in the sea. I do shoot with many old DSLR cameras with some cheap lenses My photos are not that sharp cuze I have a simple gear but I am happy with the results Recently I bought a Nikon D70S with a Tamron 70-300 mm It’s not bad at all I think what matters the most the joy that photography gives me Keep doing what you do best and good luck bro Greetings from Germany….
@williamchan8866
@williamchan8866 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your opinion on lens, a sensible man speaking sensibilities. Some of my fav shots are actually not even in focus, but I still like them a lot. When the mood it conveys is great, sharpness or even focus is not a priority. Some photos just works the way it is.
@mrpedroleal90
@mrpedroleal90 Жыл бұрын
This rant is amazing, I agree with nearly everything, so good.
@michelangeloc.4265
@michelangeloc.4265 Жыл бұрын
All you say is right.
@travisb8055
@travisb8055 2 жыл бұрын
This obsession with how sharp a photo is and the growing trend of sharpness taking center stage in judging how good a photo is reminds me a lot of a quote by Confucius that goes, "When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger."
@leedeleon2745
@leedeleon2745 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect a Confucius quote here but I am absolutely here for it
@pankajshukla8191
@pankajshukla8191 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the wonderful .....paradigm breaking .....video....and helping me to see the light so as to say ....
@christophkuenster
@christophkuenster 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Dee! Thanks so much. This is just what I needed to hear right now. 🙏🙏🙏 Great video!
@dushysatkunanandan3921
@dushysatkunanandan3921 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true, so many people give the Fuji 56 1.2 such a bad review, because its soft open wide, but whether in natural light or studio lighting, its amazing beyound 2.8 and especailly 5.6. it can hunt a bit in low light but thats why you have manual focus. i am doing a part time course at college right now, and the key area's i see lots of people focusing is on the camera settings buying new gear, not focusing on lighting and composition. the students have better gear than the lecturers who are professionals.
@rmd4845
@rmd4845 2 жыл бұрын
Great post, I applaud you in addressing this myth because so many factors are involved to produce a pleasing photograph...sharpness is up to the photographer.
@patrickcazer
@patrickcazer 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love your videos ! You hit the nail on the head everytime. I didn't realize this until I got closer to quiting digital, but even around that time I stopped buying expensive lenses and buying 3rd party manual lenses and old glass for the imperfections and characteristics. I produced some of my best imagest with these lenses.
@robertoposa1120
@robertoposa1120 2 жыл бұрын
I almost love you - finally somebody speaks it out - this hype about af and sharpness - look at the old masters as you said - all great photos - none of them is sharp and still so unique
@markhoffman9655
@markhoffman9655 2 жыл бұрын
Love your rant! The push for this nonsense IMHO is from elitist in the Fool-Frame brigade- who want razor thin focus and creamy bokeh and nothing else. Of recent I am doing a lot of event photography and using your brain to get to position to get decent lighting and work within the gear limitations is way more important than the gear itself. I use M43 and shoot a lot at IS0 5000 and 6400 indoors - and main problem is not AF and not even image noise - it's unpredictable illumination strength and white balance in the venue lighting!
@oldmanfuzz4330
@oldmanfuzz4330 2 жыл бұрын
Preach brother Hate that mode of thinking but its the way “we” have been conditioned/brainwashed. I want a new lens or a new body, I want new software etc The Want is the cousin of the whine !! Just because it isn’t sharp in the corners …who gives a shit. I’m not looking at corners, I’m looking at my composition and subject. My subjects are not in corners of a composition. Now if Im out of focus and I didn’t recompose and fix my settings, heck that’s on me. I’ve done that many times. But never blamed the camera or lens. Take some accountability and learn from your mistakes. That’s what life is about and learn with the tools you have. And practice practice and don’t blame your tools for your whack photo Now you got me all wound up Dee!! Cheers 🙏
@tiarebowman
@tiarebowman 2 жыл бұрын
OBSESSED with your videos and you. thank you so very much for these
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😭😭😭
@SummersSnaps
@SummersSnaps 2 жыл бұрын
Love these rants.
@dylangarcia3696
@dylangarcia3696 Жыл бұрын
This is the most funny but true ) you also need the landscape all sharp etc
@twinkie1773
@twinkie1773 2 жыл бұрын
Mannn this is why I love this channel! On the kool-aid man this make me wanna slap the camera outta their hands and beat the full frame off of them. I feel like half of these new age shooters depends on the camera, KZbin and the gear reviews! Thx ya for staying real! I definitely need more of these fr 🙏🏾 See you in 96 where the Summer never ends 🌹 ✨ 🤞🏾
@kolossimike
@kolossimike 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the [not so] subtle sideswipe at everyone's favorite photographic couple.
@markandrst8767
@markandrst8767 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@jimjimgl3
@jimjimgl3 Жыл бұрын
Well. I guess you could say "sharpness doesn't make a good photograph" or "sharpness doesn't make you a good photographer". But if I'm shooting in my studio and the clients are on zoom, the last thing I want hear...."is that image soft?". That is why I sometimes use my Zeizz Milvus lenses vs my Canon prime lenses...just much sharper. Last week I was shooting for an advertising client at their studio and every time I did a shot I would ask my digital tech "is it sharp?"....so for some of us in some circumstances sharpness is pretty important.
@torb-no
@torb-no 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite images is taken with an Sony DSLR and an Sony lens 50mm 1.4 lens thats basically a rebranded Konica Minolta lens from the 80s. I took it at 1.4 and it is *not* sharp at 1.4. Yet I love that photo. I gives some fall off from the background and highlights the light of the scene. I printed it *big* and it looks great! Personally I only really care about photos being *sharp enough*. It's freeing. It's made me more comfortable shooting with slower shutter speeds and higher ISO. At the end of the day, the substance of the image is more important.
@mvonwalter6927
@mvonwalter6927 2 жыл бұрын
Orientation fix = zooms are ok people. Use them..
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
YES! LEARN TO USE ZOOMS!
@christopheroliver148
@christopheroliver148 6 ай бұрын
Love the intro. I'm reminded of a Bill Pierce line: "Never ever confuse sharp with good, or you will end up shaving with an ice cream cone and licking a razor blade." Content is king!
@singsingmei
@singsingmei 2 жыл бұрын
that ending made me laugh so hard. lol
@tonyb2760
@tonyb2760 2 жыл бұрын
100% in agreement
@ryzenbiel4145
@ryzenbiel4145 Жыл бұрын
skill is the most important and ur editing too..
@denislaroche3957
@denislaroche3957 2 жыл бұрын
"there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept" : Ansel Adams; thanks Dee...
@143GADGETS
@143GADGETS 2 жыл бұрын
PREACH! Brotha PREACH! This the type of content that makes me smash the like, subscribe and notifications buttons! Blessings!! I look forward to the next vid. 🙌🏾
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you!
@marlon.iraheta
@marlon.iraheta 2 жыл бұрын
Brotha!! I love your vids man. Real photography talk 🙌
@clintwood1983
@clintwood1983 8 ай бұрын
Sold my Fuji 56mm 1.2 for the 50mm f2 cause I was always stopping down for portraits. Bluring out the background is nice but not at the expense of getting the whole subjects face sharp (important to me) and in focus. Plus I prefer a bit more background in focus for context. Good video, cheers.
@r_cab314
@r_cab314 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content, videos, and especially your delivery style.
@Magneira
@Magneira 2 жыл бұрын
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept
@aivensify
@aivensify 2 жыл бұрын
my man! love this!
@glang4657
@glang4657 Жыл бұрын
You just repeated everything that has been going through my brain. 😂
@quagmire321able
@quagmire321able 2 жыл бұрын
Man... This video hurts me to watch. The rant is... Strong in this one 🤣🤣🤣
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to upset you Steven - some people can’t follow along so I understand.
@dct124
@dct124 2 жыл бұрын
😅 talk to'em I personally shoot Nikon as my primary. My first semi-pro camera picture profile, for portraits said, 3D look. 🤔 Looked at the settings and, all they'd done was reduce sharpness -1. Sure enough, 3D pop. Been doing that for the last 15yrs, b/c they took Portrait out of the pro and semi pro cameras. You have to manually put them back in. These sharp lenses just make everything look flat. Ppl complain about the sensors too much, it's the lenses. Taking out the AA filter isn't a bad thing. Sometimes I'll shoot in fine, High NR and softer to make things even more soft so I can tweak in post specific parts of the frame like PC lenses.
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the breakdown man - it makes sense.
@NathanBradley-w1z
@NathanBradley-w1z Жыл бұрын
I remember when I shot laser sharp eye balls once upon a time and I thought my photos were rubbish : )))
@fanjan7527
@fanjan7527 2 жыл бұрын
This is great, love it.
@secretpotato
@secretpotato 2 жыл бұрын
apple needs to see this
@firstnamelastname9955
@firstnamelastname9955 2 жыл бұрын
I shoot concerts/live music and stret photography at night often. I often am forced to shoot at ISO 12,800 or 25,600 with my lens wide open and my shutter speed well below 1/focallength#. Because of this, my photos in these situations are not clinically sharp. However, I am not one to disturb ambient lighting and I am also not one to simply not get the shot. I am also using only manual focus and a speedbooster. Do I get every shot? No. Do I make compelling images and find compositions that elevate these images beyond just simple documentation? Absolutely. I went out tonight with a newly acquired x-pro1. I normally shoot with an x-pro3 and a speedbooster with fast primes. I am comfoetable shooting with that camera in almost pitch darkness. The x-pro1 has a bit of a learning curve for me in terms of low-light handling/tolerance. However, if the subject is intelligible and theb photo is not so blurry that it breaks the composition, who cares? Some of the best concert photos ever were taken with pushed ISO 400 and still came out blurry and they kick ass, because the moment and the composition/lighting were simply perfect. Hell, I even have a whole series called "music in motion" where I have images with deliberate motion blur that convey the emotion of musical performances. Sharpness is extremely overrated, but in some ways the market/scene is correcting itself, and we can see this is in the sales of vintage lenses and bloom/diffusion filters (people complain about CA and then go and buy promist filters). By the way, guys, look up William Albert Allard's work and tell me sharpness matters more than composition, lighting, color pallette, and subject matter - It doesn't.
@ROD9569
@ROD9569 2 жыл бұрын
Preach preach
@leedeleon2745
@leedeleon2745 2 жыл бұрын
That sweater🔥🔥🔥
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
KARHU >>>>
@bunnytobin
@bunnytobin Жыл бұрын
Half of Avedon pictures are soft or have some slight motion blur. He was rarely even looking through the camera (no autofocus) when shooting because he was talking or interacting with his subject and using a cable release. Also, his fastest lens was on his 75mm f3.5 Rolleiflex. And I've never seen an Avedon picture that I could call a bad photo.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 Жыл бұрын
Cartier-Bresson's early and most famous images exhibit motion blur from camera and subject, lack critical focus and are utterly brilliant. Shot on a camera with a poor viewfinder, an uncoated f3.5 50mm lens and film around 32 to 50 ASA. Modern street photographers would consider that an impossible combination.
@MrMonsterfred
@MrMonsterfred 3 ай бұрын
So true !!! Thanks so much for this great video.
@Leondrian
@Leondrian 8 ай бұрын
So glad to re-watch this! Yeah you come out guns blazing and ever bullet hits it's intended target. And yes even if I agree with you I really and to be reminded that that is how I feel about sharpness. My mind has dulled off. Have an awesome day/evening/night. Over and out
@JasonLawrenceNoel
@JasonLawrenceNoel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you thank you thank you
@Walkercolt1
@Walkercolt1 Жыл бұрын
Sharpness matters to ME! I'd say I'm a member of the " f64 Group" of sheet film photographers like Steichen, Weston and Adams, but MORESO because I demand better lenses than they EVER had available to them. Sorry, but I'll NEVER use convertible Protar-too "mushy" at 80 lines per mm for landscapes on an 8x10 view camera for contact prints I NEVER sell! The smallest enlargement I offer is an 11x14, and I haven't sold one this Century. I can count the 16x20's I've sold on my fingers.
@aaron_barreiro
@aaron_barreiro 2 жыл бұрын
Yo you're in south texas nice!
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir! 🤝🏽😤
@eddiegee2940
@eddiegee2940 2 жыл бұрын
I always said, tell a story. My recent photo shoot is California coast or visiting different towns and meet people. . ...Dee Rosa , if you think about visit California, let me know, willing to reimburse your travel expense, hotel, meals, you and your fiance'? Get together hopefully with photography group...July of next year would be ideal. Because every end of July ( I know you do sports photography ) , there's Women's pro tennis matches, preliminary matches, FREE ADMISSION, can bring your camera. Then after that show you around Northern Cal. , SF Bay Area. I'm trying to get a photography group forming. I think you'll love the coast. In and around Bay Area. Murals, old towns, urban downtown, hills and hills. Many places to go.
@jmtphotographymedia
@jmtphotographymedia 2 жыл бұрын
Composition, subject, and value to your client. Sharpness...meh. Great point of view.
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 Жыл бұрын
True that. Some of my best photos are from a pentax digital with a manual focus ricoh 50mm f2. I have much better cameras now, with full frames and red ringed lenses. I'm still not the worst with this. I use a tamron 90 2.8 for a long lens, because it was cheap. 5.6 is the golden ratio of object focus to.. object being in focus. Most of my lenses are 2.8 or f4 at best, short of the 50 1.8. Cameras are tools.
@v_stands_for_value124
@v_stands_for_value124 2 жыл бұрын
Gear is the thing that makes your photo look cheap or expensive, nobody will ever convince me the same place/thing/person captured with a canon 1100d or a Sony A1 will be the same because it's not otherwise every pro photographer would use cheap reflex for work
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, when you go that drastic in value you definitely see a difference; but wtf did that have to do with the point of this video other than proving that people blame sh** on gear.
@nevvanclarke9225
@nevvanclarke9225 3 ай бұрын
Agree ...hate seeing 1.0 1.4 images Lacks creativity
@MisAnkic
@MisAnkic 2 жыл бұрын
Try to explain this to stock photo agencies 🤣
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. I’ll send an email.
@ROD9569
@ROD9569 2 жыл бұрын
First off luv your work here on youtube . Funny was watching a hasselblad event an the photographer who was talking about new camera an one of the things he said even though the camera is sick , he said the same thing about sharpness overrated an he show some work he shot an it made so much scents because when you look at alot of there work today so sharp there is ant life to there work.
@jmc151
@jmc151 2 жыл бұрын
so much yes
@cristian-nk8fe
@cristian-nk8fe 2 жыл бұрын
People pixel peeping photos they see on a youtube video 😂
@theblackmanarmedwithacamera
@theblackmanarmedwithacamera 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME IN A PHOTO? IT'S UNDOUBTEDLY STYLE!! IF YOUR PHOTO DON'T GOT STYLE, THE PHOTO IS SHIT! THIS IS JUST MY OPINION ANYWAYS!! I SEE ALLOT OF PEOPLE ON INSTAGRAM, WHO PICTURES ARE SO FUCKIN BORING... ESPECIALLY ALLOT OF THE "STREET" PHOTOGRAPHERS! EVERYTHING STARTS WITH THE EYE AND YOUR BRAIN TO TELL YOU HOW TO COMPOSE A STYLIZED SHOT... AND THE REST SHOULD FALL IN PLACE! - THE BLACKMAN ARMED WITH A CAMERA
@laurapeter3857
@laurapeter3857 2 жыл бұрын
The only photographer I take any inspiration from is Vivian Maier. Take photos, learn from my mistakes and show my work to nobody.
@robertbohnaker9898
@robertbohnaker9898 5 ай бұрын
Ouch. Tony and Chelsea….
@bill.j.pearce
@bill.j.pearce 2 жыл бұрын
“Why don’t you use your damn feet” Because perspective compression is a thing. For like, 80% of compositions you can’t just walk closer, you need the angle you’re at when you see the shot.
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like cropping won’t work then and you need to switch lenses.
@clintmaxwell2750
@clintmaxwell2750 2 жыл бұрын
haha this is great , you tell 'em ! 🔥
@kennymac7766
@kennymac7766 Жыл бұрын
💯
@ericortiz3284
@ericortiz3284 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Speaking the truth and sticking it to Tony! Awesome.
@naradaramanayaka3291
@naradaramanayaka3291 2 жыл бұрын
No matter What is everybody Say it s all about Sharpness 🥇📷😹😸 When you Have it you Have Everything Thts how current society work
@josecolon8143
@josecolon8143 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@jasontormos3668
@jasontormos3668 8 ай бұрын
Respect 🫡 🎉 👏🏼
@arnaudperrier1020
@arnaudperrier1020 Жыл бұрын
I quit walking dead cause I’ve found more interesting and cool to watch.
@robertbohnaker9898
@robertbohnaker9898 5 ай бұрын
There’s a guy on YOuTube who displays JPEG/ straight out of cameras images that look great ! Period….😅
@MikeKleinsteuber
@MikeKleinsteuber 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to define what makes a great photo is like trying to define star quality or great art. It is impossible. Because every image, person, or piece of art is individual. Certainly sharpness doesn't have to be in the mix for a photo to be great but you simply can't say what has to be in the mix. In other words it's easy to say what doesn't have to be there but you can't say what does. Period.
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
… what do any of your comments mean?
@MikeKleinsteuber
@MikeKleinsteuber 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeeRosa 42
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind you do thsi everywhere. I just saw you do this on Juana’s videos too
@MikeKleinsteuber
@MikeKleinsteuber 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeeRosa LOL
@DeeRosa
@DeeRosa 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah y’all get weird in here
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