The Most POWERFUL Two Rail Kicking SYSTEMS & How to CALCULATE Them

[@zxp4]

best explanation ever.. I was never able to count my diamonds properly, but these sistems make it clear and simple.. will try to put them in practice next time i practice...

[@MrCueBall]

Thank you very much for your comment!

[@stevefleming315]

Excellently explained. Thank you for making the complex simple.

[@MrCueBall]

Thank you very much!!!

[@johngies4024]

Great video. Thank you

[@MrCueBall]

Thank you so much!!!

[@RoobieRhoo]

I have never been able to get this system to work for me. But I will try again. Thanks for the motivation.

[@MrCueBall]

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[@merlinlewis6361]

Good job I love watching your videos

[@MrCueBall]

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[@PijoChen]

thank you

[@dryclimateutah]

Dr Dave did a similar video about 2-rail kicks. I think his was more in depth and talked about how and when to make the adjustments. But in the end, it always ends up being complicated, ends up starting with find the midpoint and parallel shift, which isn't very accurate and, as pointed out here, doesn't work in a lot of situations. Poolometry just came out with a series of videos for 1-rail kicks and showed that you have to adjust your aim point for kick shots based on whether the approach angle to the rail is less than 45 degrees or greater than 45 degrees. The amount you adjust, if you can visualize a "vanishing" point for the shot is always the same for 1 rail kicks. In the end, so far that I've seen, 2 rail kick shot videos are always, here's something that works some of the time, when it doesn't work, guess. In my opinion, the parallel shift system is insufficient and studying 3-rail kicking systems used in 3 cushion billiards would prove more efficient because you can learn and memorize track lines and principles of the physics for making consistent hits. Since 2 rail kicks are 2/3'rds of 3 rail kicks... if you learn those and know the track lines, 2-rails become intuitive. In any case, this is as good a description as any I've seen about the midpoint parallel shift "system" even though I dislike the system myself. I expect that someone like Dr. Dave or Poolometry will eventually give a better solution, though I'd put my money on Poolometry to solve it first since I don't suspect Dr. Dave is trying to solve it and Poolometry is actively working on it already. I think the Plus system with running English would give someone way better results once he/she learns the track lines. For perfect accuracy, a 2 rail kicking system will have to take into account the 45 degree angle issue, using running English in various amounts depending on the angle of incidence (probably "gearing English" as Dr. Dave calls it) and speed of the shot.

[@MrCueBall]

Thanks for your comment! The most important thing is that I am not Dr Dave and any other content creator. I want to make my own videos explaining my vision of the most important factors pool billiard. Yes, you are right that midpoint parallel shift system is difficult to measure but this is what I said in this video. Very important is each step and each action. We cannot calculate kick shots. Of course I mean players like Shaw, Filler, Van Boening.... and finally Reyes. I am sure that they do not make any calculations. They just know where to hit and with what speed and spin. This is the key to effectively execute different types of kick shots.

[@dryclimateutah]

@@MrCueBall You make great videos, I watch a lot of different content makers... I compare and contrast and gleam every little tidbit of information I can. I disagree that kicks shots cannot be calculated. I've watch lots of 3 cushion billiards tutorials and many of the systems are named after world champion players who invented and implemented the systems in their games. Knowing track-lines and how English affects them allows one to practice calculating them until you get confident enough and start to develop a feel for them. Eventually, the system fades away as you turn kicking and banking into a second nature skill. But the system is still there. Everyone uses systems, even if they say they don't.

[@MrCueBall]

@@dryclimateutah I said that calculating kick shots can be difficult because i always think about conditions on the table. We experience different angles on new tables as well as bit older. And in my opinion this is the key of perfection. Being able to know how cue ball will behave in different conditions because angles of reflection and incidence will be bit different in each scenario.

[@ScottsPoolSchool]

I agree with this completely. As an instructor and a person who loves studying kicking systems (pool) and systems in 3 cushion, the 2 rail mid point system has always frustrated me. Changes in the entry to the first rail and even the position of the OB and distance from second rail requires adjustments to aim point or spin, and no proven way (yet) of determining that systematically, only relying on feel. Making it a tough system to rely on under pressure. I've tried to figure out a systematic way to adjust but always get frustrated, maybe will figure it out or someone else will as you noted. The plus two system is however very useful and accurate on most tables. I learned a small 1/4 diamond adjustment years ago from an older pro which makes the running english and speed more consistent from various spots on the table. With this adjustment it's very deadly.

[@ItzMeKaeL]

what if object ball is not in the rail and we need use that plus 2 rail system? thank you

[@MrCueBall]

Very nice question! In this case we need to know how looks path of the cue ball after contact with second raił because then we can imagine whether object ball is placed somehere on this path but in my opinion you should use parallel shift system because it will give you much better result!

[@Kevmrtwo]

Because of you I am getting better playing with my balls!🎉 Thanks!

[@MrCueBall]

Thank you so much! This is a big pleasure for me!!!

[@Kevmrtwo]

@MrCueBall the pleasure is ours to share 🍻