The Most Urbanist Soccer Stadiums in North America: 10 Cities That Do Association Football Right

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Ray Delahanty | CityNerd

Ray Delahanty | CityNerd

Күн бұрын

If you go to the home grounds of most association football ("soccer") clubs in Europe or South America, they are dovetailed into a central city or dense neighborhood location, and they provide lots of choices in how to travel to and from the match.
North American sports venues -- particularly those in the United States -- usually aren't like this. They're often in a far-flung suburban location, surrounded by a moat of surface parking, and difficult to access for anyone who can't or doesn't want to travel my personal motor vehicle.
Association football, as played in the MLS, NWSL, and Liga MX sometimes provides a different roadmap to stadium success. Some of the best examples are designed to nestle into a neighborhood, they're located near transit and bikeways, and they strive to minimize parking footprint.
Today's video explores the best venues North America has to offer, and shames lots of venues that apparently haven't learned any lessons at all from the continents that originated the beautiful game.
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@stencil_ized
@stencil_ized 2 жыл бұрын
Halloween themed video: best/worst urban graveyards. Would like to hear your stance on whether or not they're bad urban land use.
@JeffreyW67
@JeffreyW67 2 жыл бұрын
That would certainly be an interesting topic. If not best/worst, maybe largest ones instead. As for whether or not it is a good use of urban land, that answer is easy. No. But in most cases, the cemetery was established on the outskirts of town and then said town eventually grew to overtake the graveyard. And at least in the US, it is very expensive and quite a hassle (politically and bureaucratically) to relocate a graveyard. When they needed to move a cemetery that was located in the middle of O'Hare Airport to make room for a runway; it was time-consuming, expensive, and there were plenty of lawsuits.
@ThreeRunHomer
@ThreeRunHomer 2 жыл бұрын
There’s interesting history to go along with the topic too. If I remember correctly, long ago cemeteries were basically the first public parks in the US. They had much more general use than they do today. Although there’s a cemetery in LA (I think) that hosts outdoor movies.
@GreenLarsen
@GreenLarsen 2 жыл бұрын
Assistens Kirkegård (the Assistens Cemetery) in Copenhagen is a good ex. of a cemetery in the middle of a city. It still function as a cemetery, but is at the same time one of the most used "green spaces"/parks in the city.
@alechagen6291
@alechagen6291 2 жыл бұрын
I find that topic interesting, but admit it's probably too niche for this channel. Luckily the cremation rate is increasing fast enough in the US that we'll generally waste less land on cemetery space as time goes on. That said, some places aren't catching onto the trend fast enough. There's a small suburb of SLC that recently approved a $7 million bond measure to buy land for a new cemetery which, by the city's own estimates, will end up selling out of plots in only 30 years, bringing them back to square one of not having enough cemetery space.
@whazzat8015
@whazzat8015 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go to my burial by train. No SUV for my last ride!
@bruceboa6384
@bruceboa6384 2 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, I appreciate that you factor in Mexico along with Canada. While I often already know about the Canadian entries on your lists, It's really cool to learn more about a country that has a surprisingly low profile.
@armstrong9543
@armstrong9543 2 жыл бұрын
Allianz Field home of MNUFC will be really good once the planned development starts on the currently empty parking pads. Its got LRT and BRT, they demolished strip malls to build it and reconnected much of the grid system through the stadium area, and Its exactly halfway between our two downtowns; in a culturally and economically diverse part of the city! However bike connections are lacking...which is very unusual in the twin cities.
@Styster
@Styster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm tired of the Twin Cities erasure from CityNerd! This stadium was built as a massive TOD project with zero public dollars, and includes zero parking stalls.
@IamHenryK
@IamHenryK 2 жыл бұрын
@@Styster I live a few miles south of Allianz. Midway still has a long way to go to be a great urbanist environment. Housing along University from Snelling to DT St. Paul is still not especially dense and a lot of the businesses are still separated from the main transit corridor by huge parking lots. Also, University was not designed with bikes in mind
@lizcademy4809
@lizcademy4809 2 жыл бұрын
@@Styster Shh ... if CityNerd doesn't talk about us, others won't move here in droves! ... says the woman who moved here in 2019😀
@DoubleRBlaxican
@DoubleRBlaxican 2 жыл бұрын
I blame St Paul for the lack of bike routes. But yeah once they do something about the eyesore of that parking lot it would be a lot better. My friend lived in the apartments right next to the stadium and I made fun of him for the great view onto the always empty parking lot.
@mattgopack7395
@mattgopack7395 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by the lack of mention of Allianz field, yeah! I was interested to hear his take because I could have seen it as a good or bad situation at the moment - the LRT/BRT is great, and it makes sense to be in the middle of both downtowns - but that then makes it decently far from either one and there's still quite a lot of parking footprint. Good plans for the future, but maybe not at the moment.
@pjkerrigan20
@pjkerrigan20 2 жыл бұрын
Citynerd talking about MLS?! This is EXACTLY my niche lol fantastic work as always! I’ve always had a bit of an obsession with stadium architecture, tbh my fascination with stadiums is what originally led me down the rabbit hole of urbanism/planning/transit content. Also I know Ray’s worn that Newell’s shirt before but goodness it’s fire. I love that he seems to support semi-obscure teams, since I *think* I’ve seen him in Querétaro colors too. A football hipster after my own heart as an American palace supporter lol. Gotta say I’m jealous of every city that made this list, my hometown-ish New England Revs play in potentially the most auto-dependent stadium in the league and the crowd tends to be sparse and totally dead bc of it. We need a Boston-area soccer-specific ASAP.
@janssenmccormick7824
@janssenmccormick7824 2 жыл бұрын
Revs stadium situation is so bad, also a Bostonian and have been to more matches at St. Mary's than Gillette.
@RichardCJohnson
@RichardCJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Here in the UK, most football grounds were built within the local communities as football was a mostly working class sport, but in the last 30 years, most new grounds are now built out of town 😕 Also, it’s great to see more purpose built MLS grounds. I remember the early days with matches being played in 2/3 empty NFL stadiums.
@jfungsf882
@jfungsf882 2 жыл бұрын
Now that we're back with the Top 10s. I hope to see a *Top 10 Most Urbanist Colleges & Universities in the US* with dishonorable mentions in the future on this channel soon 🙏
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Will consider! Thanks!
@sblack53
@sblack53 2 жыл бұрын
Expand it to North America. York U is a former and probably still current abomination but at least they got two subway stations for all their sprawl, and the university formerly known as Ryerson is literally nestled into the core northeast of Yonge-Dundas Square, complete with a quad of closed side street.
@Dogod2
@Dogod2 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityNerd That would be an interesting list, but how do you even distinguish? I went to school at Northeastern University in Boston. Just by looking at it you might think it would top the list, but then there's also BU, Suffolk University, MIT, and a whole host of other, less well known schools. (Yes, MIT is in Cambridge not Boston. Sue me.) Not to mention NYU and The Cooper Union in New York City. All those fit seamlessly into the urban fabric (sorry Harvard and Columbia, but putting a wall around your school disqualifies you in my mind). And that's just a small sample of schools from two cities. If that translates to the rest of North America, the list would be a knife fight with a mile long list of honorable mentions.
@wolfythewolf4457
@wolfythewolf4457 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if any of Philly's Universities will make it onto this list...
@julienbguyon8956
@julienbguyon8956 2 жыл бұрын
@@sblack53 and I think adding Queen's U for a smaller city but extremely urban campus would be interesting! I think 90% of the students live within 1km of the school and almost everyone walks, bikes or busses to school!
@pjkerrigan20
@pjkerrigan20 2 жыл бұрын
Another BIG honorable mention for Centene Stadium in St Louis. SLCFC don’t join the league until next year, but that new stadium fits really well into the downtown’s urban fabric. Excited to see if they can garner a good crowd.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
St. Louis is historically a great soccer city --- maybe the best if you go back far enough!
@thatpersonsmusic
@thatpersonsmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I really love how it integrates into the city, and I’m excited to see its segment of the Brickline greenway be built
@titanbronco1627
@titanbronco1627 2 жыл бұрын
I hope St Louis doesn't use the SLCFC name too much. Too close to Salt Lake City. Yes they are RSL, but non-soccer fans will get confused. And non-soccer fans are the people St Louis and MLS need to appeal too.
@StLouis-yu9iz
@StLouis-yu9iz 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityNerd It’s like that way in most regards. lol Please keep spreading the good news about us instead of just the bad and it could become Americas 4th largest city again (in my opinion it was actually 3rd because this is when Brooklyn and NY were still separate but I digress) Anyways, Thanks for all the great content :]
@pjkerrigan20
@pjkerrigan20 2 жыл бұрын
@@titanbronco1627 to be fair, RSL sealed their own fate with the cringiest name in American pro sports (tho the CPL’s Atlético Ottawa is giving them a run for their money). Last I checked Salt Lake City hasn’t received any patronage from the Spanish royal family lol it’s such a silly name. I know that’s kinda tangential to ur point, but I try to drag RSL whenever I get the chance. In terms of St Louis City FC, I have personally heard the few people I know from the area call it “the Lou.” Might make sense to abbreviate the club as “Lou City” or something like that (tho I’m sure the Brits and Kentuckians will both take exception to that name for different reasons lol). St Louis City FC is definitely a mouthful all at once tho I think it was an overly safe choice for their branding.
@joeb4294
@joeb4294 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 1994 World Cup boosted soccer in the US a lot, and that has come through in the generations who were children at the time, helped the MLS maintain traction. Also, some Americans have switched to soccer from American football because they feel that repeatedly smashing into each other on purpose is not worth the health risks.
@silentqueue2344
@silentqueue2344 2 жыл бұрын
Your last point, absolutely. Used to be an avid gridiron fan but now I've cultivated a healthy antipathy for it. Soccer (yes, "soccer"!) for me with a little bit of F1 for good measure.
@adellis24
@adellis24 2 жыл бұрын
Head & Neck injuries including concussions are more prevalent in Soccer than they are in Football just so you know.
@joeb4294
@joeb4294 2 жыл бұрын
@@adellis24 Not according to the information that I can find for the US. Football is the worst, typically followed distantly by girls' soccer, boys' soccer, wrestling, and cheerleading.
@fivehundrediq5212
@fivehundrediq5212 2 жыл бұрын
​@@joeb4294 The NFL generates 19 billion a year(Most among all sports leagues in the world).... American Football ain't going nowhere anytime soon. And clearly you don't know about the Collegiate Game
@joeb4294
@joeb4294 2 жыл бұрын
@@fivehundrediq5212 I'm well aware that football is very popular and will remain popular for a long time. I was only stating that some Americans have turned away from it, and that U.S. soccer has likely benefited from that.
@leegualano777
@leegualano777 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Toronto deserved at least an honorable mention. As someone who has been to a game there despite not being from the area (or Canada for that matter), it was super accessible with a train line running behind the north end. Very close to residential and not far from the downtown core. There were a couple above ground lots but a really cool location close to the water, expressway, and a pretty lively neighborhood
@mthomas2404
@mthomas2404 2 жыл бұрын
Ya. I'm not surprised. Unless you've actually been to BMO Field you can't really get a sense of how easy it is to get there via transit and walking and biking and how much stuff is nearby in Liberty Village. A satellite view puts it in the middle of a parking lot at the EX.
@canadave87
@canadave87 2 жыл бұрын
@@mthomas2404 Those parking lots are also a bit of a unique case, since that land has been used for the Canadian National Exhibition for over a century, so I think it is a rare instance where surface parking is a reasonable land use the rest of the time.
@pangerme
@pangerme 2 жыл бұрын
Reasonable land use? For a prime location in a rapidly growing city with a housing shortage?
@canadave87
@canadave87 2 жыл бұрын
@@pangerme In this one very specific instance, yes. The CNE isn't going anywhere any time soon, so sure, use the land for parking. There's not a lot else you're really going to be able to do with it.
@watson956
@watson956 2 жыл бұрын
BMO would have lost points on the amount of parking nearby and the long walk from the King or Union stations, although the GO Exhibition Station is pretty close and it's not a long walk from the King Streetcars.
@Codeaholic1
@Codeaholic1 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on with Houston. Downtown is surprisingly bikeable. And the parking is definitely shared with the Astros.
@Bacopa68
@Bacopa68 2 жыл бұрын
It's Roller Skatable too. Though the Urban Animals Skate Club is a mere shadow of its late 20th century glory.
@jamescoulson7729
@jamescoulson7729 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting thing about Vancouver too is that all the empty lots near the stadium are set to be developed into housing and park space with poorly designed highway style roads like the viaducts being taken down which will make the space more enjoyable
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to soccer-specific stadiums, I have only been to one and that is Red Bull Arena for a 2017 Gold Cup doubleheader between French Guiana (who made their debut) and Canada, and Costa Rica and Honduras (we only stayed for Canada vs French Guiana because we didn't want to get back home to Long Island too late; plus we knew the atmosphere for Costa Rica vs Honduras would be chaotic) so I can only talk about that one. Location wise, it has being walking distance to the Harrison PATH station (and one stop away from Newark Penn with connections to NJ Transit trains and buses, Greyhound, Newark Light Rail, and Amtrak trains) going for it, which has new transit-oriented housing (even has a Five Guys). There's luxury apartments but they're also building mixed-use ones. The walk to the arena isn't bad (nearly a mile), but south of the tracks by the arena is still filled with construction and barren lots. No cycling lanes either. But hey, at least it's not Subaru Park.
@jastahl
@jastahl 2 жыл бұрын
I find the issue with PATH is that they really don’t optimize it for travel to RBA on game days. Unless you’re getting on at WTC (and even then, it’s not guaranteed), you have to transfer at Journal Square, and that is not always quick. I’ve waited 20 minutes sometimes at that platform to make the final leg to Harrison. I’ve also found that they really corral you on the sidewalks near the Harrison PATH station with barriers, which makes it really difficult to cross Frank Rodgers Blvd if you need to for whatever reason. But the fact that you can take public transit there, even if it’s not top-tier, is a positive.
@cristianm4208
@cristianm4208 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru Park, Red Bull Arena, and Audi Field were all built as anchor tenants for revitalizing/de-industrializing areas of already dense cities. That’s why the surroundings of those three stadiums remain in constant construction of new development. There’s been considerable changes to the density in Harrison, for example, especially since 2017.
@bryce6979
@bryce6979 2 жыл бұрын
The stadium in St. Louis is almost finished being built, it would be interesting to hear you talk about that one at some point
@Motive9366
@Motive9366 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I thought he'd have mentioned it at least since it's an urban stadium with dedicated cycle tracks being built out plus light rail connection
@michaelanderson2106
@michaelanderson2106 2 жыл бұрын
It ticks a lot of boxes on a list like this too.
@jorgemontero6384
@jorgemontero6384 2 жыл бұрын
Calling the area about that stadium urban is quite the stretch though: There is no practical walking traffic anywhere there. The entire corridor down "farty", all the way to the ballpark and the river, is set up for people from the suburbs to come in, attend the event and leave. The relative lack of attractions that are actually open an in serious use outside of game days make the stadiums just blight 99.9% of the time. The ED at least attempted to be a convention center most of the time, but we all know how well that went. Unless your urban center is strong and well built, so that the stadium's relative lack of inactivity is countered by superior accessibility: That's what makes a place like Mestalla or Santiago Bernabeu acceptable despite their low use. Carting the local fans all the way outside the city center would be a chore. Compare that to St Louis' downtown, where low use facilities are sitting next to other low use facilities. They aren't urban development, they are blight, because the infrastructure is set up to fill the stadiums up with cars. Downtown St Louis is already filled with covered parking, and yet, along with the stadium, we are getting even more parking! The stadium should have been in, say, Earth City, where all the parking infrastructure does little damage. An empty lot would be better, because at least that could be redeveloped into something that might get constant use. Instead the stadium will sit there, being about as useful as the old AT&T building.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I limited this to current MLS and Liga MX clubs, and I kinda almost bit off more than I could chew as it is!
@ybrammer
@ybrammer 2 жыл бұрын
Really wish I could've hosted that game on 9/18. But the rumor is if the electronics get fixed, we'll have a European team here for a friendly in November!
@bikesarebest
@bikesarebest 2 жыл бұрын
Montreal's lines are more often identified by colour than number. They do technically have numbers but they're rarely used. The line near Saputo Stadium is the green line. Great vid as always and I'm happy that Montreal was mentioned.
@MohammadAijaz5842
@MohammadAijaz5842 2 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct the lots are shared in Houston. Those lots are used for business parking in the day, event parking during games, and free parking at night.
@MohammadAijaz5842
@MohammadAijaz5842 2 жыл бұрын
The bike lanes, feel free to chop on them, but we worked hard to get them 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 baby steps my guy! We're trying!
@janmelantu7490
@janmelantu7490 2 жыл бұрын
East End is such a great neighborhood too, I always enjoy soccer games at PNC.
@_d0ser
@_d0ser 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have it slightly backwards. When you're in college, even in the US you meet people from more places and get exposed to things like soccer from other foreign students studying where you are and you're actively looking for new and different things to be interested and a part of. So it's something "different" enough from the normal sports-guy stuff while still being very popular in the worldly sense.
@BTBSteve
@BTBSteve 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think college is causal at all. Soccer a middle/upper-middle class sport in the US. Those same people are also more likely to go to college. It's unfortunate and I hope the culture changes (both soccer and college should be accessible to more people), but that's why soccer fans are "educated"
@57125
@57125 2 жыл бұрын
I really think that the Fifa games have an impact too.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Good arguments here and in the replies. I did think about the fact that soccer has been the premier youth sport in a lot of the US for at least a decade now. The FIFA thing, yeah. Has Football Manager caught on much in the US yet?
@williamerazo3921
@williamerazo3921 2 жыл бұрын
@@57125 but in the wrong demographic.
@Approaching2Zero
@Approaching2Zero 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityNerd Football Manager has been gaining momentum in the US. One of the biggest FM creators on KZbin is American (Zealand). On another note, the NBC deal with the Premier League nearly a decade ago has also brought a lot new eyes to soccer and along that those curious about cultures and design without having to travel abroad.
@teddymacrae
@teddymacrae 2 жыл бұрын
BC place is also the western Canada's most important events venue. I'm a lighting technician who grew up there and have worked many a concert/trade show/large city wide community event at BC place and never drive to work
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting until BC Place was going to be on the list. Was at Vancouver for a layover for a few hours in July so I met up with friends using the Canada and Expo Line to kill time for next flight. Loving the urban design of Vancouver both BC Place and Rogers Arena are well placed for having to be beside Chinatown and being on their other side of the Marina overlooking the Science Centre. Funny enough there’s a Costco right beside the two stadiums underground
@TomPVideo
@TomPVideo 2 жыл бұрын
There's a large hill just to the north west of the stadiums that the urban fabric has pushed out from in the form of that Costco. You can walk up to it, climb a giant staircase outside the entrance about 4 stories up, and then be at street level again for the upper side.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
I know, that is one of the most uncharacteristic Costcos! Love it
@vincentng2392
@vincentng2392 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame to see Vancouver Chinatown becoming a no-go zone after dark. By the way, the tourist attraction is called Science World. :)
@briano7986
@briano7986 2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentng2392 I say give it a try, I don't find it to be unsafe at night.
@brydonchakrabarti2470
@brydonchakrabarti2470 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityNerd Video Idea: Top Ten urbanist Costcos.
@nabimenj641
@nabimenj641 2 жыл бұрын
as a huge soccer fan and aspiring urban planner, this video was brilliant. thank you so much and nice newell's shirt!!
@edwin5419
@edwin5419 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Perth we built a 60,000 seat stadium on the river, directly over from the CBD. You can't park within cooee of it and public transport on event days are both extensive and included in the ticket price.
@thehanghoul
@thehanghoul 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, appreciate the Tesho reference. Didn’t know about guy, but glad people like him exist. It’s cool to see public figure sports stars being supportive of public works and urban development! We could always use more people like that!
@smendyke116
@smendyke116 2 жыл бұрын
A big part of soccer culture is that most clubs (not the mega clubs as much) are very woven into their communities, and the sheer volume of clubs means each decent sized community has a club to rally around. American sports lend themselves to being super provincial because teams have to represent such a huge area
@MSCCA
@MSCCA Жыл бұрын
And many US teams aren't clubs. They are sports franchises. It's a completely different interaction (US teams are more like businesses) with the surrounding community.
@gavinneedham2013
@gavinneedham2013 2 жыл бұрын
The best part of BC Place (and downtown Vancouver in general) is how hostile it is to drive. I have never been more scared to drive in my life than I was there. Parked in the hotel basement and didn’t drive anywhere until I left town.
@mileitman
@mileitman 2 жыл бұрын
Try Montreal!
@andreslot6134
@andreslot6134 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely add Estadio Azul in Mexico City, although it is a smaller stadium (33,000) expectators, it has ZERO parking footprint and is in the middle of a dense mixed use neighborhood.
@noelaguirrechavez4462
@noelaguirrechavez4462 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he said that he'd talk about teams that are in liga mx, and estadio azul is just by an expansion league team. Not gonna lie, i thought of it either way
@cramesplays
@cramesplays 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interested in how the new Crew stadium scored (Columbus, Ohio). They just built the new stadium right in the downtown core, but the city as a whole sort of handicaps the ability to get to these games via public transit. They did add good bike connectivity to the major bikeways that run down the city's rivers though, and include game-day bike valet. Overall a major improvement vs the historic crew stadium that was really only accessible via car with very little else around it, and I'm hoping this trend continues.
@kylegambert3325
@kylegambert3325 2 жыл бұрын
In 50 years they may finally put a rail stop at the stadium considering there's several rail lines running right next to the stadium. :( I've gone to games riding my bike and the valet is extremely nice and free which is an added bonus.
@CB____
@CB____ 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah surprised Crew stadium didn’t make the honorable mentions
@dlaveancebert-sims2325
@dlaveancebert-sims2325 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏 Columbus!
@connections12
@connections12 2 жыл бұрын
yea think this is a miss, the Crew stadium is in the optimal location, considering how terrible Columbus's transit experience is.
@ThommyMckGoaty
@ThommyMckGoaty 2 жыл бұрын
Went to a recent game against NY Red Bull, very nice stadium
@chriszanella4182
@chriszanella4182 2 жыл бұрын
As a whitecaps season ticket holder it's cool to see BC place top the list. Makes me appreciate going to the games a bit more!
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you talked about Saputo Stadium when it comes to Montreal and not the...white elephant in the room that the team sometimes uses. I mean it says a lot about a stadium when its architect refused to back down from his original vision despite escalating costs for raw materials and delays, the stadium's roof and tower weren't even completed in time for the Summer Olympics, and it took Montreal THIRTY YEARS to pay off its debt. Doesn't take long to figure out why people call it the Big Owe.
@talknycfc719
@talknycfc719 Жыл бұрын
As NYCFC fan I’m so happy we’re finally building our own place across from Citi Field
@canadagood
@canadagood 2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons that BC Place and Rogers Arena in Vancouver are able to keep a low parking footprint are their downtown location. Most office buildings within walking distance keep their parking lots open on game night and make money filling their parking lots. Nearby hotels and restaurants are shared by tourists, conventioneers and sports fans. This is probably true with any similar downtown facility. I think it would be interesting to see a video comparing land use in cities such as Vancouver and Seattle that are constrained by mountains, sea and rivers with other cities which have far more room to expand such as Edmonton, Kansas City or Dallas.
@coocoo3336
@coocoo3336 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf you use they skytrain if your going to a game in vancouver. Noone wants to deal with parking when they csn just use a park n ride
@vincentng2392
@vincentng2392 2 жыл бұрын
@@coocoo3336 There will be another Metro Vancouver soccer team in 2023 playing in the lower-tier Canadian Premier League. Its home will be in the car-centric suburb of Langley unfortunately.
@garyholt8315
@garyholt8315 2 жыл бұрын
a head to head comparision of Vancouver and Seattle on all categories would be very interesting. maybe Portland too.
@JamesTaylor-zs2gq
@JamesTaylor-zs2gq 2 жыл бұрын
In Vancouver, if we aren't bombarded with a constant stream of validation that we do in fact live in the greatest city of all time, we start remembering the crushingly unaffordable housing and our brains start to melt. Thank you for supplying my daily dose!
@vincentng2392
@vincentng2392 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Vancouver! Thank you for listing BC Place as your number one. By the way, while Stadium-Chinatown Skytrain Station bears the original reference to BC Place, the later-built Rogers Arena (formerly GM Place) for Canucks hockey is actually closer to the station.
@samhuffines
@samhuffines 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see Houston get the much-needed love here and Dallas getting the much-needed shame. Dallas has a stadium phobia. Also, great SEC football selection for the sub-check.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
I think we're about to see a lot of SEC stadiums!
@jetfan925
@jetfan925 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the DFW suburbs doesn't even have public transit at all. Such as Frisco, Arlington, Grand Prairie, Allen and more.
@kevinleon01
@kevinleon01 2 жыл бұрын
hopefully the houston love isn't shortlived considering the looming proposed freeway expansion
@WHYOSHO
@WHYOSHO 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetfan925 They have it. It just all leads to Downtown Dallas
@HiIamajew
@HiIamajew 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinleon01 true, the proposed freeway expansion goes right by some of the density, but look at it on the bright side: it also destroys the surface lots PNC shares with the Juice Box!
@TheTroyc1982
@TheTroyc1982 2 жыл бұрын
Toronto getting the shaft again, BMO field is a 200m from a GO Regional rail line which many fans use to get to the game, 2 LRT lines , and an Under construction subway lines, that 4 rail lines that 4 lines 200m from BMO field. An being Toronto there is a ton of highrises density nearby on the other side of the rail line in Liberty Village.
@abchaplin
@abchaplin 2 жыл бұрын
Being from Ottawa, I love to see Toronto get shafted, but I was surprised to see that BMO Field did not rate mention.
@sdot5389
@sdot5389 2 жыл бұрын
The Center of the Universe shafted? Poor babies….
@dilliam1702
@dilliam1702 2 жыл бұрын
Austin FC's Q2 Stadium is poised to be a really great urban stadium. It has a dedicated rail stop and tons of dense mixed-use development is currently happening from the ground-up. It will be super exciting to see how it develops over the next 5 years.
@ToddDicken73
@ToddDicken73 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, our land use policies will stop it from seeing that potential. Also, it was built on a lot ruined by toxic chemicals in the 70s which is why that parcel of land had sat empty for so long before the city gave it away for the stadium.
@StLouis-yu9iz
@StLouis-yu9iz 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddDicken73 Just keep fighting until the zoning laws are changed. As a Missourian IK the struggle is real in a red state but we will prevail eventually. Also, hey at least the toxic lot is now being used for something positive.
@colormedubious4747
@colormedubious4747 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddDicken73 Do you mean the same land use policies that permitted development of The Domain, the massive mixed-use neighborhood literally across the street from the stadium? Just checking. As to contamination, was the site not remediated? I suspect it was or the stadium could not have been permitted, but I can't find reference to it on the usual Brownfield lists. I'd like to see your references for your assertions.
@halnone
@halnone 2 жыл бұрын
I was really impressed with Austin's stadium. It was so easy to take the train from downtown to the stadium.
@zimmy98
@zimmy98 2 жыл бұрын
I live in South Austin and haven't been to Q2 yet, but on maps it looks depressingly surrounded by strip malls and warehouses. Hopefully the metrorail expansion goes well so that more people across the city can actually USE that rail stop to the stadium.
@matthewconstantine5015
@matthewconstantine5015 2 жыл бұрын
Houston, for all its many, many, many failings does seem to be moving, in fits & stops, in a better direction. Granted, when you're bar is set so low, any little bit can look huge.
@agntdrake
@agntdrake 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Vancouver got the leg up due to three key decisions. 1. The city fought freeways coming downtown in the 60s/70s (although still wound up with two ridiculous viaducts which will hopefully be torn down soon), 2. The World's Fair (Expo 86) was in Vancouver and its theme was Transportation which caused the Skytrain to be built, and 3. The decision to revitalize the stadium (and take off the silly air supported dome) and have the Whitecaps play there. The Whitecaps had originally bought a waterfront property in Gastown (the historic district downtown) and wanted to play there, which would have also had great transit connectivity to Waterfront with its two Skytrain lines and SeaBus (and I guess the float planes and Helijet terminal). That got scuttled because it would have required building over the Canadian Pacific rail yard, but would have had some amazing views of the north shore mountains. The city rejected the idea and the province revitalized BC Place instead, which would have had only one sports tenant with the BC Lions of the Canadian Handegg League. If the stadium hadn't been revitalized and the other downtown stadium not been built, they would most likely be playing out at Empire Stadium (or equivalent) out at the PNE with its close proximity to the freeway and lots of parking lots.
@christopherhead934
@christopherhead934 2 жыл бұрын
The big parking lot is shared with the Astros. The Dynamo sell a season parking pass for $150 but you can't use it on the days the Astros are playing. I feel like taking the light rail to the game is free because I don't see people pay. Houston leads the country in apartment production so more of Houston will have apartment buildings like that, though two of the apartments west of the stadium are due for demolition because of the highway 45 expansion project.
@garyholt8315
@garyholt8315 2 жыл бұрын
as a Canadian, I thought I 45 and Katy fwy were way too big already.
@shivtim
@shivtim 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I will say I’m very surprised Atlanta didn’t make the list. It’s one of the few stadiums directly served by a subway (MARTA station on both sides of the stadium, both 2 minute walks). No giant parking lots or decks. It doesn’t really fit into a street grid, but it is in downtown and walking distance from a lot of apartments, hotels, and offices. There’s a new pedestrian street leading to it from Centennial Park. They just built a bus transit hub next to it, and there’s a bike valet for Atlanta United games.
@rpater306
@rpater306 2 жыл бұрын
I was also surprised. I almost always take MARTA to the games, and it is very easy/convenient. It is definitely my primary use of MARTA. Heading to the game on Sunday with kids in a cargo bike for the first time, so we will see how that goes!
@litz13
@litz13 2 жыл бұрын
And wait until the Centennial Yards buildout is finished, adding to the useable/liveable space in the area
@mykmills2397
@mykmills2397 2 жыл бұрын
Once Centennial Yards is built out and they do something about closing the gap-canyon between the sidewalk and the stadium then I think it could be towards the top of a list like this.
@Forevergus
@Forevergus 2 жыл бұрын
Banc of California Stadium, Los Angeles. Would fit in well here. Close to E and J Lines. Ample bus access. In a great entertainment complex. Adjacent to college (USC) campus. Bike lanes along Figueroa St.
@losangelesnefastvs
@losangelesnefastvs 2 жыл бұрын
And was built where the old LA Sports Arena was. And integrates visually well with the cityscape.
@Sc00terNut
@Sc00terNut 2 жыл бұрын
Vancouver's stadium has a skytrain station next to it. It's actually called Stadium-Chinatown Station.
@Chris-st9mm
@Chris-st9mm 2 жыл бұрын
Lumen field was actually designed as a dual use stadium for both American football and actual football. So that's why an NFL stadium like lumen dovetails so well with a football clubs needs
@pjkerrigan20
@pjkerrigan20 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE LOVE LOVE the Tesho Akindele shoutout. Gotta love Tesho.
@jcwasheregt
@jcwasheregt 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Toronto's BMO Field would get an honourable mention for being right across from Go Transit's Exhibition station, which runs at 30 minutes frequency off-peak, and serviced by 2 streetcar routes and a bus route that run at 10-minute frequency, while also not being far from the Martin Goodman Trail on the Lakeshore for bike access, but it is basically surrounded by parking for 90% of the year so the omission makes sense
@martytu20
@martytu20 2 жыл бұрын
The nearest neighbourhood, Liberty Village, has a significant bottleneck in the Exhibition Station tunnels. It's nowhere near as transit friendly as Scotiabank Arena or the Skydome (walking distance to Union Station), but nowhere is going to be as transit friendly as a terminal station. It's kind of the opposite problem of new Crew Stadium, in which it's in an urban environment, but non-existent public transit (which is because Columbus is utter crap at).
@jeffmorris1093
@jeffmorris1093 2 жыл бұрын
@@martytu20 I'm sure BMO Field will move up in the "rankings" once the new subway line (Ontario Line) is completed... if it ever does. With that in place BMO Field will be supplied with a region rail stop at Exhibition Station (GO Train), two streetcar lines (#509 Queens Quay and #511 Bathurst), plus I am hearing there are plans to have some bus lines (e.g. #63 Ossington, and #29 Dufferin) will connect into the Exhibition Station transit hub.
@jacktattersall9457
@jacktattersall9457 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the Toronto FC BMO Field, it is literally across the street from Exhibition GO Station and Exhibition Loop Streetcar station. It looks bad from Google Earth because of the worst thing in Toronto, the elevated Gardiner Expressway beside the train station and over the streetcar loop.
@coolredpen
@coolredpen 2 жыл бұрын
I'm European so unsure, but isn't 'tailgaiting' a cultural thing in the USA which promotes huge surface parking
@pjkerrigan20
@pjkerrigan20 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, but that’s mostly for football. Our soccer fanbases tend to prefer a more European model of walking from a bar to the stadium before the match starts. Tailgating is fun, but u don’t necessarily need a huge parking lot for it. At my college, we always held a big tailgate for the homecoming football game on the practice fields for football, rugby, and baseball. Occasionally it would get a little bit muddy, but that kind of added to all the fun.
@explosivehotdogs
@explosivehotdogs 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that BC Place was built in 1983 and still looks completely contemporary.
@jaysullivan2045
@jaysullivan2045 2 жыл бұрын
can you do a video about densifying cities and how it relates to gentrification? I'd love to hear your input on how we can make better dense cities while respecting those that inherited the remains of white flight, etc. Thanks!
@RealChrisFischer
@RealChrisFischer 2 жыл бұрын
The dilemmas that take place when one piece of left-wing dogma collides with another piece of left-wing dogma.
@ficus3929
@ficus3929 2 жыл бұрын
NIMBY ism is bi partisan. IMO cities would have fewer issues with gentrification if already wealthy neighborhoods didn’t block so much housing.
@scruvydom
@scruvydom 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealChrisFischer Say you simp for capital without saying you simp for capital
@Number1Camper
@Number1Camper 2 жыл бұрын
Gentrification is a good thing
@sebastianjoseph2828
@sebastianjoseph2828 2 жыл бұрын
@@Number1Camper Agreed. Gentrification is simply a word that gets thrown around when people try to make a neighborhood someplace people want to live. In DC, we're fighting to get bike lanes installed. NIMBYists in NW hate it. In SE DC (majority black and poor) though, councilmembers have been trying to block or remove bike lanes saying it's gentrifying. That doesn't make any sense.
@htowncougstro
@htowncougstro 2 жыл бұрын
For clarification on the Houston parking lots, those are owned by the Astros and leased to the Dynamo/Dash on non conflict game days.
@c.n.i7105
@c.n.i7105 2 жыл бұрын
Riazor Stadium in Coruña (Spain) is an imposing venue for players to play in. The space limitations created a 32500 stadium wich looks huge and vertical. Also as it is completely integrated with the city it has many ways to get there. The city being compact also helps for people to get to it. Plus it ha lots of places to just relax before the match while you see the lovely beach. Because yes, it's basically some 10-15 m from the sea, wich makes it even more special.
@alecerdmann8505
@alecerdmann8505 2 жыл бұрын
I, a 40 year old, did grow up liking and playing soccer (although my favorite sport was, and still is, American Football). However, your analysis of my increased fandom is spot on. I studied abroad in Växjö, Sweden in the winter/spring of 2005 and attended sporting events in my "home" city and just about wherever I travelled. My interest in soccer increased greatly and I became a genuine fan of AFC Ajax from Amsterdam and Vålerenga IF from Oslo and follow them on Social Media and try to catch Ajax whenever I can since they show up on American TV from time to time. I also check up on the other teams for which I attending games including Östers IF from Växjö, Malmö FF, and Bohemians from Dublin. I did follow Minnesota's 2nd tier teams to a degree, but now that the Loons are an MLS franchise I do consider them my favorite soccer team. My interest very much stems from my time in Europe as a student, however.
@lws7394
@lws7394 2 жыл бұрын
1-5 ! ❌❌❌ 👹
@spapavizas89
@spapavizas89 2 жыл бұрын
Another aspect that I think has driven the growth of soccer is the rising income of Latinx americans who have long formed key supporter groups for MLS teams
@aaravyadav3748
@aaravyadav3748 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Light Rails in North America that can easily be converted in metro/ subway. Aspects: 1. Current Grade Seperation 2. Population to support it 3. Does it deserve it 4. High floor LRT will be easy to convert to metro 5. Current Ridership 6. Potential Growth Like the message to support the idea
@danielkelly2210
@danielkelly2210 2 жыл бұрын
Some ideas: 1). Putting the downtown portion of the Buffalo LRT into a cut-and-cover tunnel under the current transit mall has been suggested since the transit mall idea is pretty dead. 2). Portland, Oregon, obvi. There's actually a serious proposal for this. 3). San Diego would benefit from this. 4). Texas Cities (Houston, Dallas). Okay... Dallas already has a plan for a partial subway corridor.
@samsklopan772
@samsklopan772 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy to see my home stadium of Audi Field make this list! It's a really fantastic venue in a rapidly developing urban neighborhood that looks better every time I go. I did find it amusing that Audi Field made #3 on this list but Nats Park did not even make the honorable mentions for Urbanist Ballparks when they are a 1/4 mile away from each other. I guess there was much stiffer competition for Urbanist Ballparks than Urbanist Soccer Stadiums.
@allws9683
@allws9683 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can explain to me : How on Earth did Audi Field got to cost a whopping $400-500 mln dollar ?!?! 😵😵 It is a bare bones 20k stadium , not fully roofed. three sides have 'naked stands without vip rooms, facilities etc. At the time there were no other buildings that would hinder construction. The location was an old industrial zone and can't have broken the bank, you'd say. All in all this shouldn't have cost more than $100 mln , really .. (to give a benchmark : 8:52 Brentford Community Stadium (17k cap, fully roofed, with enclosed facilities, built on a cramped plot in West London) cost only £71 million , in 2022 !! And the lavish 60k Tottenham Hotspur stadium cost 'merely' twice the bill of Audi Field )
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I probably got the most grief for omitting Nationals Park in the baseball video. I kinda have to go off what's in the latest aerial for each stadium, but my understanding is there's a lot more good adjacent land use around Nationals Park now than what the aerial shows. Will update at some point!
@RealMattHaney
@RealMattHaney 2 жыл бұрын
@@allws9683 agreed, this drives me insane. Cannot understand how the money was used. Nowhere near a $500m stadium. Have to think a lot went to the land (maybe near Nats park the values were increasing a lot?). But I will be very curious to see how long such a bare bones stadium lasts, particularly because it has no room for expansion either (can’t be more than 20 years right?). I continue to think United ownership could also join with Commanders ownership (if they were both reasonable humans) to partner on a new stadium at the old RFK site. United could perhaps use it for major events until the local fandom grows enough to fill it consistently. And the Spirit could share Audi more. Having had the foresight to work on this ahead of time would’ve certainly prevented the World Cup miss debacle. I have been saying it since the initial 2026 announcement. But I am a dreamer I guess. 😔
@samsklopan772
@samsklopan772 2 жыл бұрын
@@CityNerd It's certainly getting there. They can't seem to stop building mixed-used apartment buildings in the neighborhood. There are definitely some questionable land uses though: multiple self storage places, an electrical transformer, some auto shops, a billboard for sports betting. But I find the image of a Public Storage nestled between two luxury condo buildings to be amusing enough to not complain too much about it.
@x0kosmus0x
@x0kosmus0x Жыл бұрын
I watched a Whitecaps game at BC Place last summer and as I was watching this video I was thinking "why is Vancouver not on the list". Well I didn't expect it to be number one. Guess I got lucky when I randomly chose a game to watch.
@johnmossawir3314
@johnmossawir3314 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Soccer is a college scholarship opportunity for rich suburbs. As a consequence there is a lot of soccer among youths in the burbs among both girls and boys. Leads to a rich and young fan base. The product from Europe is pretty amazing lately as well.
@pjkerrigan20
@pjkerrigan20 2 жыл бұрын
I think that’s partially true, but I’d also say the internet has a lot to do with it. Young people are more connected to the world than previous generations bc of the internet. Plus big American athletes, especially those in the nba, seem to be getting more and more into the sport and posting about it on social media, showing up at matches, and even buying stakes in clubs. Of course there’s also a big immigrant population who loves the sport as well. So the growth of the game here is a whole combination of factors tbh.
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 2 жыл бұрын
Personal health impact too. More parents getting their kids to play soccer vs say NFL & NHL (in terms of head injuries say).
@johnmossawir3314
@johnmossawir3314 2 жыл бұрын
@@emjackson2289 really good point. Baseball is rural. Basketball is urban. NFL is dangerous
@lopoa126
@lopoa126 Жыл бұрын
Most of my soccer teammates were not rich.
@bos2pdx2yvr
@bos2pdx2yvr 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see my current home and previous home cities make the top two! Thanks for another great video!
@rwrunning1813
@rwrunning1813 2 жыл бұрын
A video about "third places" could be interesting! As a college senior who doesn't want my social life to end after college, that's really top of mind for me.
@daniel6678
@daniel6678 2 жыл бұрын
Seconding this. I think this is the single biggest reason young people gravitate towards cities (other than job opportunities) - no one wants to lose access to a walkable community and nearby friends after getting a taste of it in college.
@rwrunning1813
@rwrunning1813 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniel6678 Exactly. Now that I know there's a better way to live, I can't go back.
@wittay
@wittay 2 жыл бұрын
I love old baseball stadiums, and how squeezing them into tight urban areas had an effect on the playing field.
@hippynothipster
@hippynothipster 2 жыл бұрын
Biking to Audi Field is an absolute joy from any points north, and only getting better. They also have a free indoor bike valet on gamedays that is always packed (in a good way). There is a stupid amount of development going on on Buzzard Point, which for forever was just industrial wasteland. One of the few things the organization has gotten right recently has been that stadium location (although the stadium itself leaves a bit to be desired). Also loved the Tesho shoutout.
@RealMattHaney
@RealMattHaney 2 жыл бұрын
The location is fantastic. The stadium, sadly, is not. I also can’t believe it wasn’t designed to be expanded at all (even though there is a field of land there that could’ve been used?). And the roof continues to be pending.
@hippynothipster
@hippynothipster 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealMattHaney Yeah unfortunately the Pepco easement that runs under the main stand really constrained them in terms of design (couldn't put anything below ground level) and the green space next to stadium is slated for development (hotel I think). Which tbf in terms of land use is probably better. And I know it frustrates some people but I *love* that there's basically no parking footprint at the stadium, or at least there won't be once Akridge develops their lots to the south of the stadium.
@RealMattHaney
@RealMattHaney 2 жыл бұрын
@@hippynothipster I was not aware of the easement. Also glad there is no parking footprint. Just wish the stadium were a little better (especially for the money) and designed to hold more fans (at least at some point).
@andergustafson6664
@andergustafson6664 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealMattHaney I personally love how small it is because there is not a bad seat in the house to be honest. I remember getting to see Rooney play there a couple years ago and it was amazing because I felt so close to the field.
@RealMattHaney
@RealMattHaney 2 жыл бұрын
@@andergustafson6664 that’s good. But 20k is small for a major sports team in a major US city. And smaller cities draw more fans. And I think you could have a similar experience in a 40k-50k stadium. Also for a team struggling pretty badly, it feels like it might’ve been smart to have more ticket revenue when a lot of the income is from ticket revenue. Also what is the lifetime of the stadium? And isn’t the World Cup in 2026 supposed to boost MLS? The stadium fills up now…so there’s no room for growth. Which feels like a weird choice to me. I guess a full stadium is better than a half empty stadium. But if you build it then maybe you’re also motivated to fill it.
@Josukegaming
@Josukegaming 2 жыл бұрын
Portland's stadium is decent in terms of footprint, but really could be a lot better if the streets nearby were less confusing, and didn't have massive amounts of traffic flowing through it constantly. Being near burnside is a miserable time as a pedestrian. Coming from someone that was there today.
@nellmenefeelibey
@nellmenefeelibey 2 жыл бұрын
Pleasantly surprised, as a Spirit fan, to see Audi Field so highly ranked! The stadium is in a former industrial neighborhood, so there isn't a lot of stuff there that would bring crowds to the area, except for game days (although this has definitely gotten better in recent years). It definitely feels a little removed from the city. That said, the walk back along the waterfront towards the wharf is really nice and there are a couple of easily accessible bus routes, in addition to the green line, as well as a bike valet at the stadium. But also, anything looks good in comparison to the Loudon County facility where the Spirit play half of their games, because DC United won't share the field full-time. That venue is about an hour drive outside the city, with no metro accessibility-- a major bummer for car-free soccer fans.
@TheJhtlag
@TheJhtlag 2 жыл бұрын
You could argue Audi Field is planned for say, twenty years out, in that sense it's terrific planning just that it's going to take time, but even that time is a good thing with projects around it getting more patient consideration.
@B3Band
@B3Band 2 жыл бұрын
I can't take your post seriously for calling yourself a "Spirit fan" lol
@andergustafson6664
@andergustafson6664 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh I hate the Soccerplex, no one wants to go all the way out to German Town for a soccer game
@jaimevillegas9500
@jaimevillegas9500 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Nice to see that the US is finally getting into football, I think the MLS will become a major force in the American continent in a near future.
@dustyrusty75
@dustyrusty75 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: greenbelts. I would love to hear your thoughts on the topic. Here in the Toronto region most suburban municipalities have pretty much sprawled out to their limits and we are starting to see leapfrog development on the outside of the greenbelt. It is really starting to sour my opinion of the whole concept.
@nolifenerdwhohasnevergotten
@nolifenerdwhohasnevergotten 2 жыл бұрын
The leapfrog development is an argument for the success of the greenbelt! It's managed to protect that huge portion of land. The leapfrog development is an issue and it's definitely had a dramatic impact in Niagara, Brant County, and Simcoe County especially. The good news is that many of those regions have made the decision to not allow any further urban boundary expansion which I hope will mitigate a lot of the leapfrogging.
@martytu20
@martytu20 2 жыл бұрын
The main thing about Toronto is that housing demand needs a mindset change from a detached house with two car garages to a modest house that is walkable to all the amenities.
@ttvtlar2113
@ttvtlar2113 2 жыл бұрын
For the Philly Union they used to play at the link, but fans wanted their own venue and couldn’t put one in the sports park, they bought land along the Delaware River in Chester and have created a very nice soccer environment, taking an old power station and turning it into their offices, helping the city of Chester actually turn itself around, having one of the most beautiful stadiums and views in the MLS, and the game day atmosphere is something you can compare to some of the mid range clubs in Europe
@7beachbum
@7beachbum Жыл бұрын
That's not exactly true. The Union only played their first two (I think that's the exact number) home games at the Linc because (the now) Subaru Park wasn't complete. The Linc was never intended to be their home. The main (if not only) reason the club plays in Chester is because the state paid for the stadium at that location.
@Waldzkrieger
@Waldzkrieger 2 жыл бұрын
Not a Major League team, but Pittsburgh's soccer stadium is pretty good and has a lot potential. Though it does have an unfortunate amount of parking around it, it is only around a half-mile from the city's light rail, and is pretty close to a big shopping area. And, in keeping with the tradition of other Pittsburgh stadiums, it has a fantastic view of downtown across the Mon.
@brendangehl1189
@brendangehl1189 2 жыл бұрын
The Riverhounds stadium has a great setting. So cool to watch a USL game and in the middle of play the train goes by with downtown across the river. That thing is better than most MLS stadiums.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that Station Square area is interesting -- I mentioned it briefly in my NFL stadiums video I think
@williamerazo3921
@williamerazo3921 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not urban at all
@sleddy01
@sleddy01 2 жыл бұрын
Baseball stadiums seen to have embraced this since the 90s and Baltimore's Camden Yards. I like that they dig them into the ground and from the outside look like a 2 story building.
@nathanjang2414
@nathanjang2414 2 жыл бұрын
Video suggestion: top ten busiest bus routes in North America
@proposmontreal
@proposmontreal 2 жыл бұрын
listening while doing other things. Ears perked up when mentioning CF MOntréal.
@simoneh4732
@simoneh4732 2 жыл бұрын
In Canada, I'm pretty sure soccer viewership is driven by our relatively high population of immigrants and descendants of immigrants. For the younger crowd, tickets are generally more affordable too. Finally I think the ability to stream overseas games has increased interest in watching soccer in general.
@rajahbitancor8960
@rajahbitancor8960 2 жыл бұрын
Also good to remember that a lot of these stadiums were built in the last 10 years, some even in the last 5. I hope this urbanist trend catches on as the sport gets more popular here.
@TheRealE.B.
@TheRealE.B. 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, American football games only involve 10 minutes of actual gameplay, even if they are interspersed with almost 3 hours of beer and pickup truck ads. It's no surprise that people who went to college and/or who didn't grow up breathing leaded gasoline exhaust aren't as in to it.
@pjkerrigan20
@pjkerrigan20 2 жыл бұрын
It’s possible to like one sport without shitting on the other. My favorite sport is soccer, but I grew up playing football all the way thru high school, and still really like the game. Yes, it has some problems and the tv broadcasts are shockingly high in commercials, but at a base level some people (myself included) really enjoy the complex tactics and mechanics of the game. It’s possible to love soccer without hating football or any other sport.
@NicolasMP25
@NicolasMP25 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see City Nerd wearing a Newell’s jersey lol, good taste
@DeciduousNature
@DeciduousNature 2 жыл бұрын
If "how if feel to watch a match" was factored in *even a little bit* then Providence Park takes the Cascadia Cup and this list no problem. I'd say Providence Park is the "best overall place to experience soccer in North America" when you put the "urbanism" together with the "vibe & culture of the games". Feels downright European there. Even Rapinoe said it was her favorite place to play (because the vibes are so intense. Also, Merritt Paulson should sell both teams. HE KNEW. And not only "did nothing" - he was a part of the coverup.
@goattnder
@goattnder 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see the Galaxy not make the dishonorable list. 13 miles from Los Angeles downtown, about an hour by car. No bike lanes. Acres of parking. No mass transit to get to the games. Two park-and-ride shuttle locations that are ALSO nowhere near downtown LA. Shocked, really.
@michaeldrabenstott9756
@michaeldrabenstott9756 2 жыл бұрын
Agree re Philadelphia Union. Big fan of the team, not of the location. Like many newer pro sports venues, there was hope that it would.help revitalize Chester. Worst part of the experience is driving in and driving out, which is the only way to get there.
@7beachbum
@7beachbum 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Union fan, but I almost never go to home games because I don't have a car. It's not impossible to get to Subaru Park on public transportation, but very, very difficult.
@benjaminsimpson5861
@benjaminsimpson5861 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Brisbane, Australia ‘multi sporting’ in a single major venue has been common at least this century. The two main stadia (one rectangular the other round (well technically oval and apparently future host of Olympic book end ceremonies and possibly athletics).
@PeterWells
@PeterWells 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you rate the football and cricket stadiums of Australia. Australia suffers from many of the same car centric design as US cities, but the major stadiums are generally all downtown, surrounded by transit. Some really gorgeous stadium designs, too.
@JamesTsividis
@JamesTsividis 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that!
@nicocorbo4153
@nicocorbo4153 2 жыл бұрын
love the shoutout for tesho ! seems like such a great guy
@SJPace1776
@SJPace1776 2 жыл бұрын
Cincinnati is also only a block away from Music Hall / Washington Park where there is a street car stop so it is accessible that way as well. The West End neighborhood will also transform this decade the way Over the Rhine has the prior one. Cincinnati is doing great stuff, excited they are putting decks on Fort Washington Way to connect the Banks and downtown. The less the interstate interferes the better.
@TSSaloic
@TSSaloic 2 жыл бұрын
The parking lots next to PNC Stadium are owned by the Astros, but the larger ones are shared with PNC Stadium when there's not an Astros game or other Minute Maid Park event. The stadium also hosts TSU Football during the fall, luckily the Dynamo have usually failed to make the playoffs for field issues to pop up. *Insert sad Dynamo fan noises here*
@BaronBytes
@BaronBytes 2 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna do NHL next? I feel like the smaller footprint of a Basketball/Ice Hockey stadium can make it fit nicely into the fabric of a city rather than placing it in the middle of nowhere. Also Montreal has a very urbanist CFL stadium though a bit far from metro lines.
@jamescoulson7729
@jamescoulson7729 2 жыл бұрын
Just don’t look at Ottawa 😅 but in all fairness they do have plans to move into a more friendly downtown location in the future
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Did it, but it was over a year ago
@so27109
@so27109 2 жыл бұрын
I understand that this stadium wasn't considered because it's not in Liga MX (at this time) but Estadio Ciudad de los Deportes in Mexico City is probably THE most urbanist stadium in Mexico. Capacity 33,000 1. Perfectly integrated to the city grid and neighborhood. 2. In one of the most walkable areas of the city and frankly anywhere I've been in Mexico. 3. No fully protected bike lanes but they do have a bus/bike shared lane and it's only 1 block from Av. Insurgentes, an artery road with a protected bike lane. 4. The aforementioned Insurgentes has one of the best metro-bus systems I've ever seen (with a station 0.2 miles away) and the closest true train station is 0.6 miles away. 5. Parking footprint: Absolutely no parking 6. ~32k m2 total area on Google Maps
@Khari.
@Khari. 2 жыл бұрын
Video Suggestion: Not sure if this has anything to do with urban planning but…the amount of storage units in the US. I swear these are popping up everywhere I look.
@SilhouetteLifter
@SilhouetteLifter 2 жыл бұрын
I audibly gasped when Providence Park wasn't #1 hahaha, but hey I'll take #2. I live 2 blocks from the stadium and love keeping my windows open on summer nights and listening to the crowd. Wonderful neighborhood.
@clayton97330
@clayton97330 2 жыл бұрын
I keep trying to get city/urban nerd channels to look at Louvain-la-Neuve, a totally planned pedestrian city with many experiments in urban planning. Edit: less specifically, the good, bad and ugly of planned cities
@beckobert
@beckobert 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that looks really interesting. I'm shocked, this is the first time I have heart of it.
@clayton97330
@clayton97330 2 жыл бұрын
@@wtfareperfectplaces I've suggested on his channel and also Citybeautiful.
@kierannelson2581
@kierannelson2581 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. I both love and hate Louvain-la-Neuve 😂 In particular I love why it was built!
@clayton97330
@clayton97330 2 жыл бұрын
@@kierannelson2581 Walloon?
@kierannelson2581
@kierannelson2581 2 жыл бұрын
@@clayton97330 yep. And as opposed to Louvain.
@andrewdiamond2697
@andrewdiamond2697 2 жыл бұрын
Bank of America Stadium (Charlotte FC Soccer (and Panthers American Football)) checks most of the blocks. Near downtown, within a half mile of a light rail line and a tram line, non-existent parking footprint, sort of fits in the grid, some bikeway access with more on the way, Increasing residential and office density being built near the stadium over time. Atlanta United (Mercedes Benz Stadium) also checks most of the blocks, though has heavy rail lines (good), and a lot more parking (minus points).
@wwsciffsww3748
@wwsciffsww3748 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes Benz also loses points for stadium footprint
@danielbenavides1906
@danielbenavides1906 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely one factor is that soccer teams are very connected to a city or neighborhood and have identities. In some countries they are owned by the fans (share holders) like the Green Bay Packers. American sports teams rarely have this feeling because they are just franchises that can be relocated whenever the owner feels like it. It kinda makes you less invested. That is one reason i think a lot of people that like the NBA just follow players instead of teams.
@sblack53
@sblack53 2 жыл бұрын
Most American major sports leagues have very strict rules on both expansion and long-distance relocation, mostly to protect existing team owners from having new competition for TV market share. Notably, Hamilton, ON kept vying for an NHL team but both the Leafs and Sabres kept blocking any move or expansion team in their turf.
@danielmedici5179
@danielmedici5179 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see my beloved Allianz Parque at the intro!
@subliminalman
@subliminalman 2 жыл бұрын
Should do USL Stadiums next!
@WilliamCarterII
@WilliamCarterII 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE VIDEO I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. Bless you.
@neolithictransitrevolution427
@neolithictransitrevolution427 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting that more than any other I would identify Soccer as a "suburban sport" in north America. Soccer moms are a ubiquitous example of the suburbs, and I would say the green space needed to play is rarer within urban centers (due to poor North American zoning). This somewhat goes along side your comment of the higher education among fans, as again suburbs generally have better funded schools (because racism).
@KING_B00
@KING_B00 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Charlotte FC! We had a great inaugural season and share the Bank of America Stadium with the Carolina Panthers. Its in a great location too!!!
@jonande
@jonande 2 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt! Have you been to an Argentinian football game? Wouldn't say the transit is always great, but it can't get much more urban with where some of the stadiums are, especially in Buenos Aires.
@CityNerd
@CityNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Newell's shirt was a gift from a friend who spent some time in Rosario! Haven't been down but do plan to go!
@johnmcdevitt2008
@johnmcdevitt2008 2 жыл бұрын
Love taking the rail to PNC stadium in Houston for games. Stoked to see it on the list!
@oldgreg506
@oldgreg506 2 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to hear your opinion on BMO field in Toronto. Close to downtown, regional train and streetcar on its doorstep however in a massive parking lot that is empty for most of the year until the summer end exhibition…. The area has gotta be the most under utilized area in Toronto yet no one talks about it being redeveloped.
@wtspman
@wtspman 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same. BMO field has 3 streetcar lines that terminate nearby, 509 and 511 at Exhibition loop, and 504 at Dufferin loop. When you factor in the 2x hourly GO train service, you have an area that is amazingly well served by transit. The stadium is reasonably bikeable from some west end neighbourhoods. Liberty Village is adding residential density to the north. Points off for not being well integrated into the city fabric, and for the sea of parking.
@mileitman
@mileitman 2 жыл бұрын
@@wtspman Don't forget the under-construction Ontario Line.
@wtspman
@wtspman 2 жыл бұрын
@@mileitman I was going to mention that, but changed my mind. In 10 years time, if it is built and running, the Ontario line will be another great transit option for folks trying to get to BMO Field, especially for folks coming from more distant parts of the city to the east and the north.
@Velez_GX
@Velez_GX 2 жыл бұрын
as a newell's old boys "hincha" seeing you with that shirt makes me really happy and of all argentinian football club, it's one I would not expect someone outside of the country to wear it
@alecerdmann8505
@alecerdmann8505 2 жыл бұрын
Something that is (mostly) unique to the United State and (mostly) unique to American Football (and maybe NASCAR) is tailgating and the atmosphere and culture surrounding that. I think it is something that convinces many of those who are building stadiums primarily for American Football to put them in a sea of parking lots. While I generally prefer to attend a more urbanist venue, walking through a great tailgating scene IS a lot of fun.
@Amy_Co
@Amy_Co 2 жыл бұрын
Nissan Field in Nashville is great for that. It is just on the other side of a footbridge to downtown, while mostly being surrounded by parking lots. It's just a place that has the best of both worlds.
@reverendjordan
@reverendjordan 2 жыл бұрын
People also regularly drive in from miles away for game days.
@lopoa126
@lopoa126 Жыл бұрын
@@reverendjordan Right now I drive an hour to a parking garage to take the MAX to Providence Park. Or just drive to Moda Center for hockey and basketball.
@paveladamek3502
@paveladamek3502 2 жыл бұрын
Central European here. There are FIVE tram lines basically stroking the southern wall of my soccer team’s stadium and you can see the largest medieval castle in Central Europe from the top of the bleachers.
@chrisjohnson7929
@chrisjohnson7929 2 жыл бұрын
Well you can't blame us for not living up to those standards. Building a stadium is a big enough venture for us, we aren't going to go about building a castle too.
@paveladamek3502
@paveladamek3502 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjohnson7929 Don’t get me wrong, I have endless respect for American builders of huge things. Skyscrapers and places like Hoover Dam in particular. And there is a reason why the U.S. has urbanist baseball stadiums instead. And MSG.
@benjaminfortney9655
@benjaminfortney9655 2 жыл бұрын
Yay for Kansas City! The whole area surrounding Children's Mercy Park with the speedway and all the big box retail is just so many acres of paved and unpaved surface parking. A wonder to behold. I hope to go see a game there sometime soon since I live here. I've heard the field itself is great, and so are the fans, but the location has actually been a huge dis-incentive since it feels like it's plopped down into a mall parking lot. It is right between an Applebee's and a furniture store though so maybe you should give some points back for having retail and restaurants so close.
@johnmetermaid
@johnmetermaid 2 жыл бұрын
"Yay for Kansas City" getting a dishonorable mention?
@robertkerley
@robertkerley 2 жыл бұрын
I can say as a former KC resident Sporting Park deserves its spot on the DM list. I can also say as a current Denver resident that it's head and tails better than Dick's Sporting Goods park. There is absolutely nothing near DSP for a fan to do before or after a match, and it doesn't leverage the rail system at all. While Sporting Park is only reachable by car, you are correct that there are at least restaurants, bars, shopping, etc. so that you could at least make a day of it once you get to the area.
@masonp5
@masonp5 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I was not expecting TQL to be on this list but glad to see Cincy getting some recognition
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