The Most Versatile Camera Money Can Buy | SONY A7CR

[@c141charlie]

Former Sony A7RV shooter here. Just recently picked up a Leica Q3 and a used SL2. Minus the red dot and cool design, view finder, and weather sealing, I can confidentially say that Sony makes the better camera for thousands of $ less. The Q3 was really disappointing. The paint chips way too easily. It feels cheaper in the hand as compared to the Q2. It takes too long to boot up. And the autofocus is still way behind Sony despite the switch to phase detect. If you want the ultimate Leica experience, get an M11, with a 35mm or 50mm Summilux. Then use Sony, Nikon, Canon, or Fuji for everything else.

[@mrghost1839]

Hi! I saw your comment need some help here. I am looking to go ahead for a A7CR or Q3, I dont want any editing besides the preset on the camera cuz I dont have time. I just want a camera thats great performance and great battery usage. Please guide me , thank you !

[@bondgabebond4907]

@@mrghost1839 I am loving my A7CR. I am finding new ways to do things with it directly due to the 61mp sensor. Might add that Leica was thrown off its thrown by Nikon in the 50s and 40s with their Nikon S, F and F2. Nikon was the best and photographers knew it. But it the legacy of Leica, the designer, who and others in the early days that transformed movie film into a medium known as 35mm to the masses. Look into the history and it will put a smile on your face. But leave it up to the post WW2 Japanese optical companies to copy Leica and other rangefinder cameras, eventually employing the prism to make the far superior SLR. They turned photography upside down. That is why you will see so many Nikons draped around the necks of photographers in the Vietnam conflict. But here comes Sony, buying Minolta and eventually creating their own cameras using advanced technology. I consider Sony a latecomer behind Nikon and Canon but they are making inroads that have led Sony to make the best cameras. After all they make sensors that you will find in Leica. Keep in mind the old film cameras were very simple. You selected the shutter speed, aperture, then focused and pushed the shutter button. That's all. Now, look at a camera as a tool. Pick yours and learn how to use it and have fun. Don't look at the label on the body, they are all basically the same thing. Make your mark with interesting images. Learn the techniques of photojournalism. I did and it helped in how I take pictures. Remember that old saying, a photo is worth a thousand words.

[@neethuandthomasphotography]

@@mrghost1839 get Fujifilm X-H2 which has so many film simulations. You don't have to edit.

[@ibradeybunch]

@@mrghost1839it’s all up to you. I have a Q3 and I don’t use any other cameras anymore. It’s my favorite camera

[@neerajnongmaithem392]

Why would you recommend that Behemoth of a camera to someone who is literally looking for a compact camera ? Could have just recommended the x100vi as the man got no problem buying fixed lens ​@@neethuandthomasphotography

[@calebbornman3699]

I bought the A7CR day one it was available. The first Sony since the a7iii that caught my eye in the same way. It’s been great. Having one camera that can do it all in such a tiny package is just phenomenal

[@TheArtist441]

I got a CR too and am totally in love with it. It’s so small and unassuming and yet 61MP! I did some wildlife photography with it with the 200-600mm and its still hard for me to believe that this small camera performs so well on birds. Then I put on the 50mm f2.5 and did some discreet street photography. Almost no tripod needed for landscapes. Amazing!

[@eric.p.merlin3537]

Body is too fat Like the A6700 .. which sadly did not keep the thin body of the A6300 .. A6400 Okay there is IS .. but it’s fat 😅

[@halvorevensen1840]

Amen brother!

[@rsandilands]

@@TheArtist441 how did that lens feel on the smaller body of this camera? Not too unbalanced?

[@rsandilands]

@@TheArtist441 how did that lens feel on the smaller body of this camera? Not too unbalanced?

[@bondgabebond4907]

Great video. You said it all. My A7CR made my A7R3 seem like a grandparent with it's new focusing features and larger sensor. Just watching you swap Sony glass for Leica glass and even Samyang glass shows that the body is just the start of an incredible journey in photography. We have to look at this not for what it can't do but what it can do. I hope one day soon people will look at these Sony bodies as professional tools, not an amateur's toy with the missing hump, but something that delivers professional quality work. Again, great video. You covered it well.

[@lukazupie7220]

Larger sensor?🤔

[@hasenmyer]

Can confirm this is one of the best cameras that I've ever used, and has become my go to. It is also one of the least value for dollar cameras that I've ever used, but I knew that going in. Would buy again

[@georgedres7914]

and yet so worth it. always with me and cropping is insanely good so no need to get those big zooms.

[@ArminHirmer]

No worries about the Q3, sold it for the A7Cr :D

[@halvorevensen1840]

Amen brother! I had the Q2 and this A7CR is so much value/ versatility & fun!

[@velvetvideo]

any heat issues from being so compact? does it do slo-mo? is it weathersealed?

[@ABarrera]

Agree 💯 I am in love with this camera.

[@Jakechams]

Was I going to get this camera? Possibly. Am I going to get it after watching this video? Absolutely. Great video man! The B roll was CLEAN. Also the animated backgrounds on the photos don't go unnoticed! So good!

[@rickbiessman6084]

I’m probably going to get the A7C II, but MAN, the CR really is several cameras in one. You basically get an additional APS-C camera for free (you could always slap on an APS-C pancake and make it literally pocketable). And you can put the grip on for those situations where compactness isn’t necessary or you really need the right ergonomics for big lenses. Crazy how flexible the CR is. I think Sony made a really good decision to add that grip to their line up.

[@josepoika5388]

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[@rickbiessman6084]

@@josepoika5388 Amen to everything you said. Even though you didn’t refer to anything I wrote. :D

[@kennyT73]

Love your graceful response to Jose and the idea of using an APS-C pancake lens for casual street photography.@@rickbiessman6084

[@eddyyong66]

@@rickbiessman6084jesus these people are creepy …

[@benjhaisch]

what is happening haha

[@SilatShooter]

I have been back and forth on this camera. I have the A7R V and agree it's larger than I would like for an 'everyday carry'. But it's a pretty amazing camera. They're a few features missing on the A7CR that make me pause, and seeing the grip extension on the A7CR makes the camera look to be pretty close in size to the A7RV. I do like the corner viewfinder for shooting. I may still pick one up but waiting to see what's coming in 2024. And I agree with vintage lenses, there are soo many cool ones that have great characteristics.

[@SilatShooter]

@@andreaskaphengst8121 Thank for your feedback! I have held off. Just too many compromises for the price and I’m guessing we’ll see something(s) soon from Sony. So I’m good.

[@Jwitherow1964]

I just got mine yesterday . I have lots of pro cameras. And this is my new favorite

[@_psnapp_]

Just started following you recently and have been enjoying your videos. The shot at 4:17 is my old neighborhood. Crazy how i can spot just the single alley.

[@quintecent8903]

As an owner of the A7CR i have a few issues with it, that were known prior to purchase, but i underestimated how much they bother me (not enough to sell currently though) : Max mechanical shutter cappjng at 1/4000 of a second and using a bright aperture lens like tge gm 1.2 or 1.4 on bright days wide open. You cap iso and shutter too fast to be honest. I didnt have that peoblem with the Nikon as its base iso was lower and i could get faster mechanical shutters. The resolution of the screen and the viewfinder is only critical in manual focus on bright days. Build quality of the body itself and especially of the grip extension. It gets scrached and the coating gets peeled off quite fast. Never had such problems with my prior Panasonic/Nikon/Canon gear. I heard its not present on the A7RV, as the build is supposed to be better there. Also on the FX3, but on the A7C the body isnt really as solid, as I expected it to be. Not a toy, but def. not "pro"-grade, throw it into your bag type, instead: put it down slowly type. Autofocus subjects not automatically switching depending on the image. So if you have animal selected and try to shoot a person after and forget to switch, the autofocus doesn't latch on the eyes. This costed me a 5/6 really good shots at a farm or once with a dog owner. The ergonomics, I thought i would get used to, are still clunky. I have to move my hand quite a bit to reach some buttons. They are a bit Akwardly placed. Its not the distance, just the positioning. A perfect example is the ricoh gr iii which is a true joy to use and is even smaller

[@therealdeal4492]

This as well as other reasons is why I went with the A7CII... I just didnt think that the CR was worth the price of admission... the C2 is to me worth it...if you didnt need 61mp its obvious not worth it

[@JessDemant]

I also have both grips and I also use them depending on what kind of lenses I have on my Sony A7cII 🙂

[@dawoodmethar4639]

How about the low light performance for A7CR in high ISO compared to A7CII

[@BenSussmanpro]

Thanks - Interesting ways to use this camera! I use the A7CR with my 70-200 F/4 OSS II and surprisingly it’s fairly compact for travel & light enough for shooting. Fits in my padded lunchbox! And with the tiny 40mm G lens I can carry anywhere. As for video I’m impressed with the cinematic (PP11) quality. (I’m pro stills but amateur video !)

[@BIbiVstf3sx]

Going from the a7ii to a7cii 3 days ago, i can confirm how the autofocus is insanly good. I paired it with the 35f2.8zeiss+55 and omg, so compact LOVE IT

[@IRFAN-po5sz]

Hi, is it better than 7cr ?

[@BIbiVstf3sx]

@@IRFAN-po5sz this is personal, but i don t need that much resolution so id say for me yes. I think a7cr could make sense if using a one wide lens so the crop isn t as damaging.

[@randallbrander8157]

I bought the ZV=E1 and was thinking of replacing my A7c with either the II version or this 61mp A7CR. After talking to the Camera Store Salesman I decided to go with a White ZV-E1 because I didn't need a viewfinder but a studio camera instead. So fast fowrward I picked up the Leica SL2-S with the Leica's 24-70mm f/2.8 & 90-280mm f/2.8-4. Liked the streamed Menu System also. But I wanted a small portable camera with a fixed len and bought the Leica Q3. Love the 60mp and it came with 8K which the A7CR didn't have and in my opinion better ISO in low light conditions. Love the camera even if it is only a tilt screen . The only downside is that it is double the price of the Sony A&CR. Do You think Sony will update the A7RV with the added features of it's little brother? Cheers!

[@UnconsciousChanting]

Love the commentary about moving away from really clinical looking images to those imbued with more character, patina, and intrigue, even if they're "not as good." In fact, it's the "not as good" factor that amplifies the allure of personal photography. It's why I still like instant photography and other forms of analog media. You get unexpected results that are an active contribution to the art beyond just the inputs of the photographer. Not many folks address stuff like that, but it is EXACTLY why I'd like the control and resolution of this rig, but with the ability to add some grit when you want. Thanks for the review.

[@TheCooliodad]

I would love to see how this camera works with the Techart AF adapter for Leica M lenses. This is a setup that I am contemplating and I am sure many others too. Thank you for a great show.

[@_o__o_]

i have two money. which camera can i buy?

[@georgemahlum6542]

Nice informative video...I am cheap...I use a pair of A7s bodies...but planning to buy a second hand A7c next month..I just wish it had a flip down screen vice side flip...I am mostly a street shooter... I rarely have any need for video. Cheers. (My "go to" street cams for a long time were pair of Lumix GX9 bodies with some Pan-Leica glass...but alas I still craved full frame)

[@rauldeandrade]

I have a couple A7Rs for professional work and a few voigtlanders M and I must say that for those older lenses, as much as I love megapixels, I think the a7c is more than capable and the lower price might be worth considering since it's basically the same body. If you're on the fence on paying more for the R and you want the compact lenses, it is ok to get the a7C instead and you can by the lenses with the savings in the body

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Very happy with my A7CR and like pairing it with my A7RV for situations where I need two cameras. I do also have an A6700 and found a few lenses that make owning it a great travel companion to the A7CR even though the A7CR can easily shot APS-C images. These are the E 70-350mm G and the Viltrox 27/1.2 Pro. Thank you and take care.

[@TaylorTeets]

I have a a7RIV that I've used mostly for travel and family stuff since it came out and I had the original a7c but sold it because of the resolution. I want to upgrade for the ai AF, but the a7RV is actually considerable more (that the a7cR) when you factor in the CFexpress card prices to get the faster speeds and now that it is almost a year and a half since it was released, I feel a new version is around the corner within the next year. I'm going to go sell the a7RIV and get the a7cR for my everyday and travel and upgrade to a new work camera when the next A1II or a7RVI comes out.

[@benjhaisch]

I’d be really surprised if a A7RVI came out anytime soon when it’s more recent than the A7SIII & A7IV but it’ll be interesting to see what comes for sure

[@TaylorTeets]

@@benjhaisch Yes but upgrading to an a7RV now, without needing it for work, is much more costly and likely to be replaced sooner than the newly announced a7cR. Great video BTW. It really helped me make up my mind as my main use is for travel and everyday photography that’s better than my iPhone.

[@Chris-w9m8e]

I feel like the A7RV gives you so much more for the price. Currently on a A7c considering upgrading to either a CR or the A7RV and I am always coming back to the bigger A7RV. The CR is a little bit pricey if you ask me

[@benjhaisch]

I'll generally agree for sure, especially if you can get the A7RV on a discount. That said, that's why I have both :)

[@georgedres7914]

agreeing on the a7rv being the better camera i bet you would use the a7cr a whole lot more - its just so much more portable and friendly to use whether your a pro or not.

[@martinpickard5818]

So what was the issue with bokeh over 1/1000? Did you test it?I love shooting wide open and this could change my thoughts on buying this camera or the a7cii.Many thanks.

[@wikiindiapartha]

Hi, Please suggest me a sony camera. Requirements: Travel photography and good portraits. I have tamron 17-70 apsc lens + a6000. I don’t want to spend more as I am just an enthusiast.

[@joshdreyfus8067]

Great, informative review. Do you find the EVF workable, I’ve read it isn’t great.

[@benjhaisch]

What’s funny is that yes, it isn’t great. But if you pick up the camera and go shoot, it’s fine. When you switch from a camera with a much nicer EVF in the same shoot though, yeah it’s annoying. Hope that make sense.

[@joshdreyfus8067]

@ I have a Fuji X-T5 and X-T30. Would you say the EVF is similar to the X-30? THANK YOU for your help, time, and talents, much appreciated!

[@patrickjclarke]

Has anyone done a real-world test for street between something like the Sony A7 series and a Leica M? Both with 35mm f/1.4's and a combo of up close shallow DOF shots and more f/8 and beyond typical wide street work and see what the hit rate of in focus shots and "decisive moments" are? I've heard such good things about the latest gen Sony AF, but haven't tried it myself. Does a great manual focus RF lens still do a better job for street photographers over the insanely fast and AI powered AF?

[@POVwithRC]

I'm still vacillating between the RV and the CR. It's tough because the prospects for both are excellent. The choice really requires an analysis of needs and wants and style. I have no answers for myself yet.

[@akyerit]

I'm guessing the RV has a WAY better evf and multi-tilt screen? Just for starters at least

[@georgedres7914]

if you want the more capable camera its the rv BUT the cr is far more portable and like me you will take it everywhere which is really the joy in photography. i had the rv and just didnt take it out unless there was an intent. with the cr whether its just a family shot, take it for an excursionor do some serious capturing i never hesitate with the cr in picking it up.

[@dccoletrain]

I’m kind of hoping the X100VI has some form of digital stabilization in it (apparently has the same lens) as we know the image quality is great for video.

[@itsr7studio]

Patrick with Fuji Rumors noted (from a trusted source) that it will have IBIS and 40 mp. We shall see! 🤞

[@dccoletrain]

@@itsr7studio I saw that. I really really don’t need that camera but I might have to preorder one. I mean I don’t already own a 23mm lens so that’s a good enough reason amirite…. 😂

[@babyboy1971]

Benj, I’m a longtime Fuji user. I shoot headshots and portraits. Currently on the XT5 and X100V. I’m thinking of selling the X100V and getting a Sony A6700 and a few lenses, likely some Sigma primes. Like you, I value small, light, fast. And in my case, affordable. Hence A6700 vs A7CR. It seems like a great camera at that price point. Did you ever do a review of it?

[@jaymills1720]

Loving the idea of the a7c2 for hybrid stuff. Would these work for 1 hour long podcast videos ?

[@SunshineHB]

Big Ben, currently shooting a Leica q2. Lusting for modern AF. Looking at the Canon R5 or this camera. Any opinions between the 2?

[@rsandilands]

Why would you expect it to?

[@ThoughtFission]

Really glad you made thius video. Once I get the coin together, this is going to be my camera.

[@thomashilmersen711]

How would the A7CR work with wide angle rangefinder lenses, e.g. a Leica 28mm 2.8? Supposedly, the Leica sensors are made to work well with the old M lenses, but I do not think that is the case for the Sony cameras.

[@benjhaisch]

Here is a video that might be helpful. Leica M Lens Performance on the Sony FX3, Leica SL2-S, and Canon R6 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2KXYWaciZWhjNE

[@rphandler]

Benj, what do you think of the small EVF vs the big one on the a7Rv? We both wear glasses, which prevents the eye from getting really close to the EVF, and we both use MF lenses (mine are Zeiss Loxias and Voigtlanders and a Laowa 15mm Zero D). Thanks.

[@mrbaiser4133]

Would you use the viewfinder of the NEX-6 in 2024?

[@rphandler]

@@mrbaiser4133 Well, I'm use the EVF on a Nex-7 from late 2011 (my first of 3 Nex-7) now converted to IR 590nm and I manually focus my Loxia lenses with it. I finally bought an a7CR. My fears of the small EVF evaporated as I used it. Even with eyeglasses pushing me back from the opening, I can use it just fine. Recent progression of a cataract in my dominant R eye has pushed me into using my L eye on the EVF, and I'm finding this easier with the EVF at the top left than centered as it is on my a7Rv. The weight saving feels very nice and I'm using the new a7CR with small primes, the 24-70 GM ii and the 70-200 f4 macro + TC1.4. I'm thinking the a7CR could replace both my a7Rv and my Fuji x100vi, were I willing to part with either.

[@Pharesm]

I had this camera. Couldn't stand the handle. Switched to A6700. It has a proper grip! VILTROX took care of the apsc drawback. I'm set :)

[@backyardwindow]

Solid review. I'd just note that if adapting manual lenses and a vintage look is the goal for cheap: The original A7s is pretty dang small and should be extremely cheap by now.

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

It seems a great camera and I like Sony. I have the A7 III. OTOH the Q3 43 has that APO lens that is so sweet and I like the focal length. Hmmm. Maybe with a CV APO 40MM?

[@frankphotography8470]

Would love to see your take on a Q3 if you can get hold of one

[@Hamsong]

I went to my local camera store when I saw one of these listed for $2399. When I got there, someone else was trying it out and ended up buying it. I ended up with a used A7R4 at an unbelievable price, but I still want the A7CR for my personal camera, paired with the 24 f2.8G

[@antonyb]

whats the video quality like vs the FX3. whats the difference

[@stkuj]

I've been shooting the A7RV for almost a year now as my main body and just picked up a A7Cii for backup, travel & video. I think Sony did a great job with the size and aesthetics. I great improvement - especially in ergo - to the previous gen. BTW, I just picked up the Smallrig (silver) baseplate/grip too! For me, the A7CR was not an option to replace my A7RV, for the main workhorse needs, but also, because it does not have a full mechanical shutter and the video is pixel binned (another reason why I picked up the A7Cii).

[@jean-philippeperetti8463]

Same here. Bought the A7RV in December 22 and added the A7CII when it was released. Amazing cameras.

[@georgedres7914]

i had the same idea but like the a7iv the a7cii crops 50% on 4k60 so i just settled on the cr

[@Mr.Tengo.Photography]

I sold my nikon d850 off and bought a replacement sony a7c r. This camera opened the coffin from me. This is really easy to use and fast. I like it.

[@Racsophoto]

I’m used to the marvelous focus peaking of Fujifilm on vintage lenses. Can you share your experience or how it works the manual focus on a Sony?

[@benjhaisch]

Focus peaking works as well as punching in to confirm focus

[@Racsophoto]

@@benjhaisch thank you 🙏

[@frankwieczorek5112]

What adapter ate you using, thanks

[@vzmoto2476]

when you say it does well with small lens, would a 200-600 not perform as well?

[@benjhaisch]

It’d perform fine, it’s only the size and balance that would be odd :)

[@vzmoto2476]

@@benjhaisch awesome, i think i found the camera il be upgrading to. Ty for the vid

[@ThoughtFission]

Hi Benj, just rewatching your video and I was wondering if 1, you still feel the same and 2, is there a lens for the A7CR that would match the performance/image quality and look of the new Q3 43?

[@benjhaisch]

Hey thanks, i think finding a lens that will compete with the Q3 43 is going to be a difficult one tbh. The Sony 40/2.5 is going to be an obvious one, despite the aperture difference. The Batis would be a cool one but I’m assuming the size would be prohibitive on the A7C body. I’m curious about the new Viltrox 40/2.5 especially at that low price point though. But again, that slower aperture is going to steal a little of that magic that the Q3 43 will have. My solutions will both me more manual focus with the 40/2 Summicron-C or the Voigtlander 40/1.2. Both could work well with that Techart adapter, but I’ve heard mixed reviews on the Sony version. If it’s as good as the Nikon version than it’d be an easy win.

[@ThoughtFission]

@@benjhaisch Thanks. I kind of figured you'd say something along those lines. I'm slowly coming to the same conclusion. Or maybe not so slowly 😉 I'm not a pro, so will probably end up with the 43. Something about those Leica images. It'll be a once in a lifetime purchase form me. Thanks for the reply.

[@MarcEstrella]

What’s your go to travel lens for the A7Cr if you were traveling and wanted to only bring one lens

[@benjhaisch]

Probably the 24/2.8G if I want to shoot a little video too or Viltrox 28/1.8

[@benjhaisch]

Leica Q3 Alternative? | Sony A7CR + Viltrox 28mm f/1.8 Review kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJCahnRoo91rZ68

[@MarcEstrella]

@@benjhaisch thanks dude! I shoot professionally all Sony so I have a 20G 35 GM 50gm and 70-200 gm but I have an A7cii for my daily camera with a zeiss 35mm 2.8 zeiss in between using that or buying the 24 haha 😂

[@TCinSoCal]

Have the A7Cii. Love it. Love the form factor. So tempted by CR but worried about noise at 3200 to 6400. Would love to hear your thoughts.

[@theargentcompanyllc1342]

Hey, I shoot real estate photography and video and was wondering what MB size ranges are the 3 different Lossless Compressed sizes are for photos when it comes to brackets? Could you fire a quick test? Shoot 3 brackets 2 stops apart with the Lossless Compressed L, M, and S and tell me those numbers?

[@therealdeal4492]

Stay with the C2 ..better low noise..and down sampled 4k..not binned like CR...unless you really need the huge file size 61mp brings...

[@TCinSoCal]

@@therealdeal4492 so true. don’t need those huge files. Colors and resolution from the 33 is so good!

[@scotthenry3904]

If it had dual card slots and a higher resolution viewfinder I would buy one

[@MarcAdesso]

Also a joystick

[@POVwithRC]

Luckily they make exactly what you want. It's called the 7RV 😊

[@Marcopereira]

You can use the d pad like a joystick

[@benjhaisch]

I really wish they just had internal storage at least

[@MarcAdesso]

@@POVwithRC the 7RV is somehow much heavier and bulkier than the CR - like Benj, I only want to see small, EDC size cameras and wouldn't take the 7RV with me everyday!

[@PujicMafia]

Is there an option for an intervalometer? Haven’t been able to find one and would be a deal breaker. Thoughts?

[@benjhaisch]

I don’t believe Sony cameras have them internally? But cheap ones are pretty easy to find for sure

[@PujicMafia]

@@benjhaischSo what I’m referring to Ben, is the lack of the S2 multi-terminal port on the side of the camera that full-size bodies come with (the port you use typically with any sort of remote triggers). Not seeing a sub-c or wireless option either, the interwebs don’t offer an obvious solution, wondering if I’m just overseeing something obvious or if this is a feature that got squeezed out for the smaller form factor.

[@Bo_Hazem]

Man with the smallrig base it looks insanely attractive! But personally I would rather have the A7Rv. I think it appeals to many street photographers with its form factor.

[@georgedres7914]

agree with everything you said. only issue is with me to keep away from those bulky more capable lenses and stay with the small factor . thats the rub for me - an amazing sensor with most of the f1.4’s being far too large. BUT i love this camera and unlike all the other cameras i have bought and sold i use this every day and boy can my cloud and storage costs attest to this

[@cody.r.s]

Respect for the Nikon 50mm 1.8 Series E - it's a great little lens and what I used on my a7 until I picked up a Voigtlander 40/1.4

[@MeAMuse]

I am torn on this one. My main body is a Sony A7R3 and it honestly does almost everything I need.... but, I have been shooting more and more wildlife, and the better AF is tempting. I also like the idea that I can have a more portable option. The old A7C was never going to work for me because I like dedicated dials for Aperture and Shutter speed. The problem though is the screen. I like tilting screens, not flippy. I would make the A7R5 work, but not this. I will hold off for a while and see.... after getting the Leica Q3 I really shouldnt buy another camera :)

[@yottahertz]

I was planning to buy a7cii but now you changed my mind to buy a a7cr.

[@roninseattle]

what about the viewfinder difference?

[@gregpantelides1355]

Benj, do you find it easy to use manual focus lenses with the viewfinder?

[@benjhaisch]

It’s ok, I usually use the back button as a 100% zoom for focus checking

[@gregpantelides1355]

@@benjhaisch thanks!

[@powderedtoastman3093]

I’m selling my M due to wearing glasses and having issues seeing my 35mm lines. It’s gotten to be a drag so I think the A7C will be a nice fit. M’s with the .58 viewfinder in mont condition are crazy money

[@A1000Truths]

Honest question, does it inspire you. I feel like a lot of the push back on Sony is that they are uninspiring and boring. What’s your take on that compared to like a Fuji or Leica.

[@benjhaisch]

It does moreso than a typical A7 body, but I'm more interested in it as a creative tool and less of an inspirational tool if that makes sense.

[@A1000Truths]

@@benjhaisch yeah that makes sense. I have an A7RV but like you mentioned it’s too heavy at times to bring with me. That’s where the Fuji X-T5 comes in but then i’m missing out on the full frame / Sony glass. Just trying to figure out that sweet spot.

[@Ben-cx8de]

The Nikon ZF does that for me (with their 26mm and 40mm). Also have an adapter to use my Sony lenses if required. It’s not small but its thinish and sturdy so bounces around happily on my chest whilst I get on with normal life stuff.

[@devtank]

I love my Metabones Speedboosters too much to go full frame. So far nobody has asked me if my prints are full frame or crop.

[@rumattso]

Great video. What kind of baseplate do you have on your A7rV?

[@benjhaisch]

geni.us/D93EXN

[@rumattso]

@@benjhaisch Thanks 🙂

[@firehorseweddingphotograph3995]

A7RV over this for me. I kind of like it, but several niggles such as the difference in build, the screen (rez and articulation), single card slot are the main ones.

[@A1000Truths]

Hey Benji would love your take on Sony Film simulations. There’s a guy on KZbin his name is Veres Deni Alex. He has a comprehensive PDF that walks you through setting up several different film simulations and I have to say it has completely changed the straight out of camera JPEG images on my Sony A7cii. Give it a look/try.

[@mtmccornack]

I dunno, this year, I was asked if my Sony Fx3 with a 50mm 2.8 lens was a film camera during the holiday fair... a7cr might be film? Might not? That's the whole fun of it!

[@mrmonday42]

I don't understand why you don't feel comfortable using a standard A7 body as a daily camera. Especially since you always keep the arca baseplate on your CR, the only size difference is the EVF hump on the A7. I think either camera is perfectly dailyable and most of the size difference comes from the lens you decide to use.

[@benjhaisch]

Sure. It’s all subtlety, but those little differences matter

[@mrmonday42]

@@benjhaisch I think it's mainly aesthetics. A7C has the rangefinder look with no hump which is on trend right now with the popularity of the X100 and Leica Q, while the SLR bodystyle is associated with professional cameras.

[@Dave_Andre]

Though I can live with it's unbalanced ergo when paired with a zoom lens, the single card slot is just a deal breaker in my opinion. Sure, this camera was designed for "casual" uses or just a back-up body... but man, sony missed it for me. That's why I really appreciate what nikon did to their zf with the additional micro sd slot.

[@21Virtues]

Now let's throw a spanner in the works. What about between sony a7rv and nikon ZV8

[@kashbuddha965]

Going to pick my A7CR up right now!

[@Martin-nu6ym]

I just recently got the Series E 50 f1.8 Nikon lens - for UV on my full spectrum converted A7C. I use the TechArt AF adapter for my MF lenses on my Sony cameras including the A7CR. It is strange to have eye-AF with a Helios but sure is fun.

[@cameraprepper7938]

It could have been a very good Camera if the EVF had higher magnification and resolution, it should also have a joystick and the articulating screen should only have been a thin tilt screen, now the camera is too thick, the grip is stupid, then it is no longer compact ! I do like the design with the EVF in the corner, but Sony have to make it better to catch me. So a Sony A7RIVA is a much better buy !

[@JustinPhillip]

If this camera would have had the A7RV screen, it would have been perfect. Just not a fan of a non-tilt screen for street

[@dubenick]

I have to say, love your work (recently found you here on KZbin). Which lens hood do you have on your 24mm G there? I tried putting the 40mms hood on, but it causes vignetting, so i dont know which one to get with to give me that retro look without losing framing. Thanks!

[@dubenick]

Whelp, you answer it in the video lol 😊

[@21Virtues]

If you had a choice between the A7CR and the a7rv Which would you choose and why?

[@benjhaisch]

If I wasn’t using it for work A7CR, if I was planning on using it professionally, A7RV

[@21Virtues]

That's my conundrum, I will do some pro and want it for private personal stuff too like travel etc. So both, Thank you for replying.@@benjhaisch

[@eliaspap8708]

Thanks for the review. Too risky with only one card slot, my Brides would never forgive me if i had a card failure, i can’t understand why they don’t include some internal memory even 64gb would be enough or im sure they can find a small area to squeeze in a micro SD card.

[@benjhaisch]

Yeah I wouldn’t use this as a primary professional camera. But I’m fine with pairing it with something like the A7RV for extra things.

[@benbunch4159]

Haha that E-Series 50/1.8 is a great lens. It’s so tiny and honestly the image quality is better than a lot of the old f/1.4 Nikkors floating around out there.

[@photogenic2010]

Most versatile, until I bought the Panasonic G9ii.. Just try it.. (you can't put it down). I was surprised too. just saying. I kept the other Sony Camcorder (Ax700), But the G9ii just has 'it'

[@JasonVinson183]

My wallet has been eyeing this camera since I had to send it back!

[@renashbellrn]

Any vintage film look lens reco?

[@LittleOTheGamer]

Hi there. Are you still keen on a q3? Im actually the other way round and considering selling it for a 7cr. If youre interested i can attatch the ebay link

[@benjhaisch]

I have one on loan from Leica right now actually. It’s all head vs heart for me between the two.

[@LittleOTheGamer]

@@benjhaisch I know exactly what you mean. I came from Sony. Bought the Leica. Sony no where near as sexy... But I miss it. Especially having young kids

[@LittleOTheGamer]

But, for clarity, that's my head doing the talking

[@LittleOTheGamer]

You going to keep it or acr.. I am copying whatever you do

[@benjhaisch]

@@LittleOTheGamer hahaha probably. I love the idea of it, but the cost is just too tough for the output.

[@mckinleygphotography]

You want people to think its a film camera, carry a film camera. Thats my solution. ha I do like the A7C line up and have been curious about it. The question is do you think they killed the 1rx line with this camera?

[@BillyMariani-m3n]

I just wish I could actually afford it. I'll be stuck with the original A7C forever though.

[@trashtbyghosts]

thanks ben - you are the go to guy!

[@nicholassmith7723]

Sold my A7III for the CII and love it

[@arylgg]

Q3 killer for those of us that are not 28mm-only fans.

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

Between the two, the A7C II is the more flexible camera. You do give up more pixels but 33 MP is more than adequate for most people and you gain better video features (and better low-light ability) - a solid hybrid camera. If this is your first full-frame mirrorless camera, look at the A7C II first. The A7CR is interesting for those that don't need or want video features and prioritize the photography side - especially for landscape. It does support video, but it suffers the same problems as its big brother the A7RV in video. The sensor is just _too_ big to downsample to 4K unless in crop mode. Either way, I actually love the small form factor - providing a very compelling hobby/travel versions of their respective full body counterparts - which is important in a world in which even real cameras are competing against smartphones.

[@jackgallegos5246]

As someone currently trying to decide between these two (or a full-sized A7-series body), thanks for the suggestion. Based on other commenters' experiences, it seems like there may be better deals for the money, but it's the form factor that actually makes you want to take it with you.

[@benjhaisch]

Fwiw, the A7CR and A7RV have been my primary video cameras PLENTY of times for videos when traveling and I’ve had no issues with the image. It’s still plenty sharp for KZbin. I just won’t be doing any quick pans.

[@ottenburg]

Great review. I wish I could agree with your conclusions, but to me, the a7CR/II doesn't fit the bill. Let me explain. a) It lacks a second card slot, meaning it is borderline irresponsible to shoot paid work on it, as clients expect redundancy; b) the EVF is painfully small, log magnification and dim - especially for focusing manually. I just don't enjoy the shooting experience; c) lack of joystick to move AF point; d) if you have larger hands or any issues with your hands, the smaller size is actually too small! The switches and buttons are either to small, too close, and it kind of gets hard to get to. Again, it impacts the shooting experience. I understand having this as a fun second or third camera, but I would NOT promote as a great, versatile, do-it-all-camera that can replace a full-featured mirrorless or DSLR. Lastly, I do agree that the grip is a good addition, but then the camera becomes pretty much as big as a a7RV, so why not bring that in the first place? At the end, it is a great compact extra tool for going on vacation, but I certainly wouldn't promote it as a stellar one-and-only camera.

[@benjhaisch]

I think I addressed all of these points, no?

[@ottenburg]

@@benjhaisch Not that I registered. It is great when a review focuses on why you really enjoy a certain camera, but personally I think it is important to stress the negatives as well to give a balanced review. Don't get me wrong, it is a great and detailed review which you put a lot of time and work into - thank you for sharing - I really enjoyed it. It is just that your impressions of the a7CR model don't mirror mine; thus, I wanted to point out the shortcomings clearly to a potential buyer.

[@benjhaisch]

Ah yes, the in depth is more found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXq8iqeCftKNmZYsi=Ki9zWspBjsOiKT2n I do mention all of these in the conclusion though.

[@MartinV.]

Great Video

[@endah08]

You mean the Lumix G9ii right? Or the Fuji X-S20

[@POVwithRC]

No. If he meant that he would not be talking about the CR. Glad I could help.

[@benjhaisch]

if I wanted much smaller sensors, sure :)

[@endah08]

Haha I'm just being cheeky. It's a great camera

[@loczyn]

I was a Sony boy but tbh there some cons: - LCD is garbage, doesn't show "truth", has only 1kk dots - viewfinder - like LCD, not usable, most uncreative, unusable viewfinder I ever used. - color science not for me I almost leave photography with Sony gear, so beware if you are just hobbist. For professional photographers - it's a great tool. AF is top.

[@jharrelphoto]

I do agree that the viewfinder is definitely garbage. I have the Sony a7cr, But what do you really expect with a camera this small. I think they made the best compromise for what it is so I deal with it. I actually like the rangefinder style viewfinder over the a7rv. Hopefully when they come out with a newer version the veiwfinder is better. However I have to disagree with the color science statement. I have used every camera there is including hasselblad medium format digital. Nothing is wrong with the newer Sony color science, it really is good and with a few tweaks it can be better with editing. I actually did a comparison with my x1dii and a7cr and shot the exact same photos side by side, and the Hasselblad did have a slight edge with color out of camera but it was very minor difference and with a few adjustments the Sony file was about the same. ended up getting rid of the Hasselblad to slim down my kit

[@igorgotts6109]

Beautiful cameras! Sony is on top as always!

[@benbunch4159]

Kind of like saying Honda is on top. Like yes the cars are fantastic but sometimes you want to drive something more interesting. This one seems awesome, really like it. Guess it's the Civic Type R in this analogy haha.

[@ufukkiblat]

Fanboy detected

[@Kxiong.1]

You make it sound like the a7iv or any of Sony others are not compact, the only difference is the evf. If you found that makes a whole bunch of different then just use your phone.

[@SimeonKolev]

Well, if Sony did not cripple the shutter and the card slot maybe I was going to feel different about the A7C, A7CII and A7Cr :). BUT with a shutter that ruins the bokeh after 1/1000s and no backup option or at least CF-E card option for the storage I am not getting those A7C toys, not for that price... SD cards are not safe even the Tough ones. I can't shoot without thinking about losing the footage or stills at any moment in time. Even a microSD second slot was going to make it better.

[@benjhaisch]

I haven't seen the shutter to be an issue on mine yet.

[@benjhaisch]

ok, so after just shooting it again at 1/4000 it only starts to show up there *slightly* still much better than running that mode on the A7 series from my use

[@ShangleLP]

what do you mean by ruining the bokeh? Do you have an example of that?

[@benjhaisch]

yeah, maybe I'll make a short video on it at some point as it was something I ran into on my A7 bodies when I first started with Sony

[@ShangleLP]

I am lookin forwards to see this. do you have any other people talking about this maybe too?@@benjhaisch

[@Weyoun359]

For $3k, body only, it should also take me to and from work, do my laundry and walk my dog 😂

[@benjhaisch]

Please don’t watch my Leica/Hasselblad videos then ;)

[@mrbaiser4133]

Please stop telling people that it's a A7R V with a smaller body. It's NOT. It's got the same sensor and AF system, but almost everything else is inferior. Small viewfinder, low resolution display without the flexible mechanics, Only electronic first curtain shutter, only 1/4000, slow flash sync speed, inferior IBIS, small buffers, no 8k video, just one card slot, SD only... It's not a bad camera, but it's totally overpriced. It's an A7C II with higher resolution, not a smaller A7R V.

[@andriyurenov7215]

You praise the camera for its compact size and the next moment you enlarge it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@benjhaisch]

Makes it versatile, no?

[@pawelmod3292]

Story was different. You are keeping the set small with small lenses. Once you are using larger lenses you are free to use the extra grip, easy. Side comment: my experience is that when you are using even bigger telephoto (eg. 600mm) lenses then the size of the body is not so important any more because the center of gravity is below the lens anyway…

[@andriyurenov7215]

@@pawelmod3292sure! Though the reviewer has just put it for the look. And with small lenses.

[@HopefulForever-ln5xm]

This is the kind of camera Leica needs to make for its M mount lenses

[@imjasonennis3624]

No it’s not. Then it wouldn’t be Leica.

[@HopefulForever-ln5xm]

@@imjasonennis3624 Leica CL?