The Mother | Women and Men | Patriarchy | Divine Femininity | Purpose | Spiritual Integration

[@LeratoFigland]

I absolutely loved everything Gogo Sofia was saying. Such insightful nuggets here, my biggest takeaway being we now have to pay for knowledge which was previously mandatory for all to learn. That broke my heart. Cant wait for next week, I give MASSIVE thanks for this episode ❤❤❤

[@kutlwanomakgalemele2338]

As a student of Gogo Sophia! She has helped me accept 'Ma' the mother. I have learnt to mother myself, my spiritual journey and mother the gifts that my ancestors have for me. Halalaaaaaa Gogo, siya thokoza

[@TheCanceriansmultiverse]

I think she has a beautiful spirit. Her delivery was done with grace and she spoke so eloquently. Her mother tongue was lovely and I notice it brought out more of her true nature/spirit. My only concern was in the beginning when she mentioned it was too late to guide the soul once it exits the womb. Being the optimist THAT, I AM, I believe anything is possible. It may be harder but never too late. No one man or woman can place limitations on The Source of all life and all creation. We have to stop placing limitations on our lives and on “God” (however you identify with the Creator). I also believe it is of great importance for the host to play “devil’s advocate.” There isn’t one way of thinking. Arguing both sides provides more clarity and transparency. He is being thoughtful because the ego/false self tend to get things misconstrued. Thanks for the conversation, both of you🙏🏾.

[@mphomatamela7068]

And boom when she switch to home language, le accent ya chencha. Le setshego, le bo yoh hai, in the mix...ENJOYING THIS TO THE CORE. LOVE ME THE PODCAST

[@TD6436]

Wouldn’t it be nice if we knew about womb spaces at a younger age, so when we begin having children, and creating lives together, we are aware of our responsibility to ourselves and the fruit that comes from that. The systems that we operate in now are creating a bigger gap between feminine and masculine , and we find ourselves repeating the same mistakes that our parents made, placing us in a more vulnerable position as black people economically , spiritually and mentally. This education is so valuable.

[@AzaniaJalia]

Agreed! We are taught from the beginning that we, are wombs are problematic, difficult .. a space to be ignored, a painful space .. we are taught that instead of connecting to our wombs.. to disassociate. The information was hidden, repressed. Now we’re awakening to this knowledge, we can take up our positions and start to live in this truth ♥️

[@yourztruly_storm9878]

Comment of the entire decade 👏👏👏

[@ndumakazulu]

It certainly would sis. It certainly would.

[@TheLiminalFilmCompany]

Gogo Sofia needs to be a recurring guest, she's phenomenal. She's got a very unique perspective... 1hour just isn't enough

[@bonniesalima1478]

ON HER BEHALF I AM HUMBLED BY THAT INTRODUCTION OF THE QUEEN.

[@tshepangmojapelo6149]

Abba was in his feels today!!!!!

[@riffraffisraelites6135]

your beautiful guest is teaching what we the gikuyu pray with the alcohol,to connect with our ancestors...peace n love

[@lowegoddess3062]

This is funny Abba is flirting 😂😂😂 Good conversation thought provoking

[@nondumiso9814]

Man I love this show 💚

[@kgosikgomongwe8113]

I have been waiting for this episode since Monday. Finally it's here

[@lungelonotsolo8629]

Thank you Abba and Gogo🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@ZDFP]

That switch to her mother tongue caught me off guard 😂

[@kingAce3112]

Some guests are not interesting thou but we differ in our ways much respect to this Queen

[@tshiamolekwene9724]

And why isn't she proud of her mother Tongue coz her name is African. Just asking

[@TD6436]

Thank you, will love to see the next half! I do wish Gogo had some more space to speak and elaborate.

[@thatomsiza2597]

ABBA making moves on the guest. 🤣🤣🤣

[@quintonmathebula9931]

😂😂😂😂 I thought I was the only one seeing that.

[@lebogangmore4573]

Yes 😅

[@tumelodavid4858]

This is power!

[@TheGhettoAlchemist]

Abba bringing us full circle through the father back to the mother siyabonga 💚

[@LeratoFigland]

Had to come back and comment again to give another big takeaway. The spirit given birth to is ancient but is born into a baby's body because that's human progression. It made me think about how we're born with all this knowledge but infancy and subsequent indoctrination dulls our senses and so we have to relearn, reknow and reunderstand that very knowledge we came with from birth. Which also most of us die without having reawakened that part of ourselves. Jerrr Gogo came thru today! Thank you so much!💖

[@primorantso7128]

Yebo Lerato, I concur mtana se khaya. Its inate this wealth. Have u checked how ababy's senses are all the infant relies on?!?! No seeking of external knowledge until they meet the rest of the world community. Like natural breast milk to the infant or the sound of the fathers voice to the unborn baby or the intelligent and life giving knowledge sharing relationship between umzukulu and his/her grandfather, natural and indigenous anything has; is and always will trump manmade errrthang and and anythang. Gogo ubulalu van damme nge qiniso shem. And bug respect for Abba to bring in some very relevant femininity, manje we moving towards roles, responsibilities, expectations & requirements from/for, man/woman/child/husband/wife/son/daughter/ family/ community. Looking forward to 'Plenty Bantu Building' episodes nga manda.:-)

[@ndumakazulu]

That is unfortunately true ntokazi. This is why ancient communities thrived more than us in the "modern era" because back when we used to live in these massive compounds the elders could identify early who the child was reincarnating and from a very early age they would teach that child about their past life. We only reincarnate to best our karma. So if you know early on the activities of your past life you get an early start at attempting to best your karma so that you can finally find eternal rest when your soul exists the physical plane again. I really hate the displacement that colonisation caused for the African with all of my heart. This modern indoctrination teaches separation and that was never the African way of life. It used to be an honour for a child to get the opportunity to follow in the footsteps of their parents, because it was another opportunity for that bloodline to right the wrongs of the past. I recently advised an ex to use the beautiful gift of having her grandparents in the physical use attempt to learn as she much as can from them about the lives of their parents and their parents' parents, because the issues that they are encountering today as a family could potentially be caused by that they have forgotten their family's ancient practices, and her response was "I must stop trying to make her do these madlozi things of mine". So you see how bad indoctrination or Christianization has gotten? We refuse to even learn about the people that are the reason that we are here because we are told their ways are backwards. It is like we do not have this appreciation for the fact that if those people did not exist and they did not do the things they were doing before we would not get the opportunity to be here today.

[@primorantso7128]

@@ndumakazulu ...its in our hands (parents of abo ma2000) to initiate the CHANGE back to the origins of living, teaching, sharing, building wealth and even building & growing a family/community. I'm experiencing a spiritual phase in my life whereby im having visions of past family members (2 to 4 generations back) warning me of consequences to come for letting the family tree roots to rot, now its an unbelievably hard agenda to get into with my 65 yr old charismatic Christian parents whom only answer by saying "no one in the family has ever had or experienced such so ur definitely being used by evil spirits AND the devil!" The more I tell them, the less they understand.

[@LeratoFigland]

@@primorantso7128 Only black people see their ancestors as demons, what a sad reality we exist in

[@LeratoFigland]

@@ndumakazulu what an honor it must have been to be born black in those times. To be a contributor to the progression of our communities. How far we have fallen that we have regressed further beyond our ancestor's lives but slowly we will get back to our former glory.

[@SoniaMadondo-qi1kg]

Beautiful message.

[@LesediMogoatlhe-m2i]

If Gogo comes back, there must be more listening from the host - too many 'jumping into the empresses mouth' situations. She handled it with a lot of grace, cause he could have been spat out. he focuses on all kinds of contracted concepts. not sure if this is a conversation that the host can hold, not enough capacity. But thank you for putting this out. we are learning

[@rMalingaT]

Welcome sisSTAR. As our ancestors' face and legacy in this lifetime, we surely have to ''seek only what belongs to us;'' through our earth and galactic connections. We are STAR groups. Thank you all.

[@SibongakonkeJ]

Interesting conversation. Very enlightening points were made. We give thanks for the knowledge and we are also absolutely looking forward to part 2! Bless.🙏🏾

[@ThepowerofSelune7]

Wowww once again South Africans have never disappointed me as an African, real talk. I went to school at South Africa and they made me feel at home as a brothers and sisters while in America it s the contrary 👌🏿 I m so Amazed by the intelligence of this beautiful Mama Africa cause she s really imperial, you can see it by the color of their clothes 🙏🏿🔥 May the ancestors be with her cause us Africans, we are pleased with her 👌🏿✊🏿

[@darianclery4455]

Beautiful message

[@cheletemali6457]

Can't wait for part two

[@KhweziNombembe]

Great one cant wait for part 2 and i cant wait to see your kids lol makwande.

[@moaru98]

So Abba Ayalweu le yena o rata Bomma ❤

[@boipelomoremi9057]

Hi Abba and the Team ...Can you touch on Spirituality and Christianity&Culture ?The connection of all three aspects ?possibly get a guest who practices all aspects 🙏

[@boitumelomalebo3326]

Dont forget to like guys!!!!

[@yangamthuthi7360]

Molweni Bantu bakwaNtu Siyathokoza kuGogo Sofie ngozisa ukuKhanya eluntwini, the Divine Feminity . Siyabulela kakhulu Abba ngohamba nathi kwindlela eya ekuKhanyeni . Camagu

[@thembazincume6652]

Big Love bobaba bami 🙌

[@primorantso7128]

The value of a Woman in the sense of indigenous wealth is measurable but Lifegiving & PRICELSS...hence I will also take out 100/ 1000 cows for such an indigenous woman. The knowledge of Man is divided between three cornerstones of knowledge seeking and sharing, that is, Father/s, Mother/s, Offspring in a Family or Community Unit; The value

[@darianclery4455]

Thank you

[@leimelabusi1456]

Thanks

[@shaunm9025]

That American to South African English to Tswana is so... weird. but I appreciate the message ❤

[@TheGhettoAlchemist]

TIA - This Is Africa🌍

[@aphiwenombula7130]

Age of aquarius, we waking up.🌿🔮Ashuuq

[@tshepomakoatsane6357]

Can we get Lerato Unplugged please? Gogo Lerato Unplugged

[@luzukomkiva1277]

Umqobothi I would say is an acception in the spiritual realm because it's natural, however the strong spirits aren't acceptional remember an African wasn't allowed to drink it(well in South Africa). So we offered umqobothi to our ancestors. Now going far back before colonial, our forefathers were big on natural resources strong spirits weren't around that time and spirits are chemicals, our forefathers would make natural wine and ferment it without using chemicals. Saying strong spirits it's what our forefathers drank back then,I would likely argue that knowledge

[@lifamolotolifamoloto8399]

I took away what i needed from the episode and I'm grateful for the knowledge.However,her initial "American" accent took me by surprise and when Abba pointed out that she can speak her language even her English accent changed to be the local accent.It kind of defeats the purpose to use such a foreign accent on top of the English that can hardly describe the essence of what it is to be African.We appreciate her coming,hope she can be comfortable enough next time to speak her language.Thokoza🙏

[@thaaLoverboyy9944]

The lady is full of shxt not gonna lie

[@nosiphozungu207]

I thought Gogo Sophia was from overseas 😂😂, Abba you are not alone.

[@litha_7784king]

Gogo Sofia is someone who grew up in America allegedly, but I'm not jumping into inconsequential conclusions... I'm not sure about her past childhood. But I wish in the next episode she will disclose herself about where she grew up... I hope she she will reveal something.

[@valenciamaseko2636]

❤️❤️❤️

[@thaaLoverboyy9944]

Wow man

[@SibongakonkeJ]

Another question is I'd like to ask is, there was a conversation that transpired not too long ago between uBab'Abba Ayalew Amlak noBab'Menzi Maseko. In this conversation uBab'Abba said something along the lines of, indoda that buys a house, that house that he has brought is not home it is a stadium ngoba engekho umuntu wesifazane in that house. So in order for a home to be a home a woman is needed lapho. So now my question is when now a woman buys a house and there is no male presence in that house (a male presence in the sense that ugane naye lomuntu wesilisa as umuntu wesifazane) can that house still be considered a home?

[@SibongakonkeJ]

Although I feel like I low-key answered my own question I do not want to assume that what I'm thinking is the correct answer hence why I'm asking for clarification.

[@ayalehuamlaksekhemankhamun]

Yes that house that is owned by a woman can be considered a home. It is her home, her father's house and therefore it the home is called by her father's name. To her it is a home.

[@thoughtist101]

You see how language changes personality...when she spoke English and when she spoke Setswana her personality was different..and i think we even abba connect more with her setswana personality. I think is better speak our languages.

[@Tefl-Tesol-teacher]

🤔🤔🤔 Eish no, This one didn't land at all Abba...ikhona nje into engahlangani...her accent, energy,etc

[@SibongakonkeJ]

Watch until the end.🙏🏾

[@huinianimation]

Same thoughts as well.

[@iam_Katleho_Mokulubete369]

Abba is busy shooting his shot 😂👌

[@happym3585]

Africanism is beautiful

[@thewayofdharma108]

why is she speaking like that?

[@LediThaLady]

I loved this however ABBA needs to give the guest time to speak

[@zotwalu]

"NiWeak man" - Abba Ayalew amlak 😂😂

[@keketso1523]

If relations are feminine then why do we not take the mother's surname instead ?

[@ndumakazulu]

I could be wrong with my attempt to answer you ntokazi but while we wait for someone smarter, here is what I want to offer: I think this was one of those patriarchal "laws" that were put in place without toxic or demeaning intentions. I think the reason what you are querying would happen was that a man was the one that was expected to build a home (the physical and also the symbolic structure) and a woman had to come into that structure someday and be taken care of in that structure so that she could fully focus on creating life within that structure (a divine ability that compared to no other). And she was not really creating life for the person that erected that structure, but she was serving her divine duty along with her male counterpart in assisting the creator in realising His/Her objective of making life multiply. A roaming thought in my head is making me wonder why it seems the ancient Egyptians might have not had surnames. I also do not encounter surnames in the Bible. But back to my attempt to answer you ntokazi. So because women in ancient times especially when pregnant had to be hidden from society I think it was then easy to identify that structure with the man, uBongani built that structure over there for example. So then more life would come out from i-structure saka Bongani, and when these new people enter society it would likely be easier to identify them as abantu abaphuma kwi structure saka Bongani = abantu baka Bongani = abo Bongani. And this could be the reason that we initially had sir-names before surnames as we know them today. That is why one of the famous examples of this in Africa is Shaka ka Senzangakhona. His father was Senzangakhona ka Jama. There was never a Shaka Zulu. That is a movie character. If you noticed Misuzulu does not have a surname in the modern sense. His full name is Misuzulu ka Zwelithini. I have a friend from Ethiopia. Her last name is her father's first name. I once read somewhere that in Europe you earned your surname through your profession, hence surnames like Smith, Baker, etc. And in those societies it was also the men that were expected to work. So yes, we had sir-names throughout the world and I do not think this one of the fruits of toxic patriarchy.

[@fundaboyce-destadler8578]

Clan names don't change, for example if you're born from a Dlomo clan which is your bloodline, even if you get married you remain a Dlomo, that never changes. Surnames came with Colonialism, women in Africa owned the land as they mostly worked at home farming growing crops and also raising domestic animals in order to feed their families, as men were out there hunting. Western women were already finished due to Western ways or dark practices of patriarchy at that time. In order to get thier hands to Our land and resources they had to convince African men that they were the head of house and therefore owned women and everything including the land which was owned by women. We lost the land and our spiritual ways when men accepted dark patriarchy which is made of oppression and domination. Black women went from being Queens to being at the bottom of the food chain. African Women are still the strongest of the human female species even today intellectually, emotionally, physically and spiritually. Women in Africa had sovereignty over their destiny. And polygamy was not an issue for women as they were already self sufficient, they didn't need validation and they didn't need marriage certificates which are so demeaning especially for women as they take away their sovereignty. But Black Queens are rising Again🌀✊🏾👸🏾😢

[@traderzonecafe371]

THINGS ARE GETTING HEATED

[@Jah_Platinum]

Blessed Love to All... i would like Ayalewu and Ancient Thau Thau to present to us the History of the Melchizedek Order, its relation to Afrika , is it Africentric, the wearing of Turbans. Alsogo through the book of Enoch

[@mosesworldwide1536]

GODDESS has fah fah u with her charms brother AMLAK 👀👀🤣🤣smiling every 2 seconds, o go tobeditse

[@SibongakonkeJ]

Greetings. I just wanted to bring something up that's confusing me a bit. So it has been said in this conversation that alcohol can be used in a sacred manner as a substance to the ancestral dimension (from our physical dimension to their dimension) kodwa umbuzo wami manje is that is this something that could always have been done even during the precolonial times? Cause manje it's quite weird to think that Heineken as an example which now exists in the modern world (and it is also a product of capitalism btw and I point this out because capitalism and spirituality from my knowledge, I could be wrong, do not work hand in hand) can now be used to connect with the people of the spiritual world in African society. Isebenza kanjani leyondlela? I guess essentially my question now is how was alcohol back then in precolonial times since it has been said that it can be used as a way (I guess you could say rite of passage if I'm not mistaken) to connect with amadlozi, the ancestors?

[@tshepomakoatsane6357]

We taking the sorghum of which it’s the ancient grain our people planted. Including mealies and other crops. So the discovery of the sorghum and malt that the combination will make alcohol. Grapes being stored in a dark place to be that alcohol. So the conversion of plants into a spirit (alcoholic liquid) is the one conversed here because our ancestors lived then and we live now so the conversion is the conversed effect to help us convert everything to our own era and preferences. As they mentioned in this video alcohol it’s a borrowed word of which meaning spirit and we call highly concentrated beverages spirits.

[@SibongakonkeJ]

@@tshepomakoatsane6357 Ohhhh, I get it now. Thank you so much for the explanation. Bless.🙏🏾

[@GSMMbizana]

🕯️🥋

[@darianclery4455]

The great mother is hair

[@JomoJuly07]

Please invite Bishop Maponga

[@MpiloMazibuko-d6n]

I tried listening but nah this episode wasn't for me, a week wasted waiting.

[@huinianimation]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@willymogano5978]

Hour is not enough 😢

[@unpopularopinion_za]

Look out for part 2 of the conversation. This was the top layer of the wisdom and insight.

[@bonitahenderson5444]

I’m not impressed with guest!

[@buntun3670]

finally someone said it...thank you. I also feel like there was too much cheuvanism here and what's going on with her accent?

[@SibongakonkeJ]

​​​​@@buntun3670if you watched until the end of the video you will see ukuthi she can speak her home language and she explains why she shys away from initially speaking it. Towards the end of the video she does speak her language in certain parts of the conversation. Not every guest will immediately have chemistry with the host sometimes people take time to thaw and be themselves naturally. Bless.🙏🏾

[@buntun3670]

I only comment after the video finishes...so I made this one AFTER. Maybe you want to explain why someone would shy away from speaking their home language? Her explanations leaves a kot of questions. Her response about short-sightedness and narrow mindedness whilst not giving an alternative view shocks me

[@buntun3670]

The over-emphasis of the the devine MOTHER and the shady explanation of the use of tobacco and alcohol in rituals hay makame logogo

[@buntun3670]

@maxwell mabuza though I agree with you, its not a female guest thing rather the overly inflated activists with the loudest voices who get the spotlight. There are plenty of female intellectuals out there who will never be invited to this show due to not having the "clout"

[@amossishuba3088]

His story is written by a Victor memba dat

[@nyambosetheoriginal]

Not this gent acting like he ddnt know all along gore this hun wa bua🤣🤣🤣

[@buntun3670]

1. When we use tobacco and alcohol to connect to ancestors, and we are not the consumers then who is? Gogo says we are offering these substances to the ancestors So we can say they are the smokers and alcoholics? 2. Anything and I mean anything has shifting contexts. I can say anything, depending on the response of others, re-explain the context as needed. Gogo plays this game of context-switching in her slow motherly voice quite a lot. 3. Our bodies are simply ours and no one elses MOTHER. Yes they were incubated in the womb but were grown by the biological essence and chemical reactions of the fetus. This imperative is not only specific to humans - animals, plants also become pregnant and incubate, give birth to their young selves. Impregnated by their male, nothing is that mystic about the birthing.

[@huinianimation]

So tiring conversation

[@travgazijr2077]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@huinianimation]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@reoagilerising]

Makhosi.

[@ShyninArmour]

This could have been a great episode but no conclusions where reached at any point because ABBA was interjecting the guest at every point she was trying to make 😢 he was putting words in her mouth and his devils advocate act was so limited in thinking in what ever he was trying to achieve as a contradiction... I think ABBA now needs a break because he was intimidated and charmed by the guest to a point he could not make any sense and was thinking as a common man with no respect of the Wombman in her presence...

[@huinianimation]

[@huinianimation]

He saw the BS and served it back.

[@huinianimation]

My two sense. This guest is just off for me. She is unauthentic. I watched other female guests. 15:00 minutes and l was right. Tobacco and alcohol are a path to addiction that the majority of the population can fall into. Then if the mother wants the body to be clean, why use tobacco and alcohol? She is contradicting herself. She is just repeating what someone else has told her.

[@lesegobrownbochi9555]

Batho ba modimo. I am tsonga, now I connect with her in setswana than her wiered english accent.

[@thinashedube1164]

Should have opened up with ZanoMvula atleast she's too English for me she does not give me an African vibe she tried but but she's not it they schooling her on her own information

[@kupewataaka6917]

🤣🤣💤Yoo I am not south African but I was thinking the same thing!!! Like🤷🏾‍♀️

[@huinianimation]

@@kupewataaka6917 I'm not SA either and it's weird to me too.

[@huinianimation]

@maxwellmabuza1988 she can speak in her mother tongue and does not but she will talk about the mother. 😳

[@theunknowndj331]

😂❤ I love her, not gonna judge for her accent. But here to LISTEN to what she says.