The Motorcycle that Killed an Entire Brand | Victory Vision

[@shadetreesurgeon]

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[@DaveBouchard-v7i]

Hope you all are safe and have a safe place to go dont wait till last min. Peace to all.

[@joshuaodom1883]

I hope you guys don't suffer too much damage from Milton. Hopefully that doesn't put a damper on the canpout.

[@heypop10]

Got mine and some extras!

[@BustedKnuckleMotorcycle]

One of the first videos I watched of yours was on a Road Glide (early Rushmore) that you didn’t like because “you couldn’t see the front wheel”. This has to be worse. Can’t even see where the triple tree pointing.

[@pcontiman]

The 106 that made Harley go big. Thank you Victory.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

I agree it and Indian made HD go bigger n better. Might have been why MoCo stepped up to the 4v heads. The Victory Freedom motor is/was better than the Thunderstuck that Polaris kept. My buddy was about to pull the trigger on Revolution performance’s slugs n jugs kit to turn his 106 into 117. Until his brother wrecked the bike. Ported big valve heads throttle body n cam he was going to shoot for 140/140.

[@lanejohnson7656]

I’d have more respect for Polaris if they would have built the Victory brand over killing it and trying to cash in by resurrecting a dead brand and pretending it never died..

[@vtwindad1549]

I agree but taking the Indian name seemed to work out for them... I assume they've sold alot more units in the same time frame.

[@danieldoyle253]

Every Indian bike was better then any Victory so the separation of companies made sense. Indian did well-being more performance oriented like Shadetree Surgeon noted was needed 🤷‍♂️

[@lanejohnson7656]

@@danieldoyle253 Different strokes for different folks. If riding a hideous looking bike that whoever picks the colors should be fired is your thing knock yourself out. Victory styling and fit and finish was far superior than anything Indian is putting out. Might be kinda hard for you to wrap your head around not everyone is concerned with performance. Especially when it concerns a cruiser or bagger.. lol. If performance was the end all be all Indian is damn fortunate Yamaha killed their cruiser and bagger lineup. My Yamaha Warrior and Raider both that were built like a decade ago or more would make anything Indian is making today look stupid, and looking far better doing it also.. lol. If I wanted an actual performance bike I would buy a sport bike, damn sure wouldn’t be an Indian with a stupid as hell indian head on the front fender or 30’s styling.. lol

[@lanejohnson7656]

@@danieldoyle253 If riding a hideous looking bike with poor fit and finish, terrible colors and either a stupid Indian head on the front fender or 30’s styling is your thing knock yourself out.. If I wanted a performance bike I would buy a sport bike or something along the lines of a Yamaha Warrior or Raider that will make anything Indian makes today look stupid and look way better doing it.. lol and those bikes are a decade or older.. lol

[@GeFeldz]

In the end, it's about making money. I'd have loved to see Polaris stick with Victory, because the bikes were cool and a little different. Polaris was and probably still is fighting hard to stay alive in cut-throat competition in snowmobiles, ATVs and SxS. I do think Indian is probably making the best margins of all the Polaris stuff, just a guess though. BRP is so hard to beat in all the other markets, being in a segment that BRP isn't is probably a god-send for Polaris.

[@peteyuckly4628]

Bought one brand new. Put 77k on it before i moved on to something else. Giant sport bike. Comfortable to ride at 80 in the fast lane alllll day

[@whammerjammer1562]

The Vision is the MOST ENJOYABLE big bagger V-twin I've ever ridden. Love my 2010 Arlen Ness Signature Series bike.

[@fader2701]

I own a 2020 HD street glide, a 2016 Indian Chieftain darkhorse 116, and a 2015 Victory Magnum. All 3 are good bikes. The vision was an interesting creation. The victory is the head turner out of the 3 I have. And it fits taller people so nicely. Also great handling. David should go snag the rear panel cover from where the trunk mounts from witchdoctor. The vision didnt kill victory, they invested the proceeds from victory into indian and indian exploded in popularity. victory is a great bike. ill keep mine for while.

[@richardjreidii]

I own a 2011 vision. Over 30 years of riding I have owned 22 motorcycles. The vision is the only bike that I didn’t ever have to do anything to you to make it comfortable. I’m 6’3" and I’ve weighed between 240 and 330 pounds over the course of my riding career (currently sitting at 250), and every single bike has needed something. The biggest defender being the Goldwing, which needed me to get a new seat, lower the pegs and raise the handlebars in order to be able to ride it and to be perfectly fair. It’s still not as comfortable as the vision. I’ve owned it for about seven years now and it is the only bike that is resided in my stable for that long. The rest of them have swapped out and rotated. It is definitely a forever bike for me.

[@grayboo212]

I've owned only 10 bikes in my life but have test ridden dozens and dozens, if not over a hundred. I agree, that damn Vision was the only bike I could seriously say that I felt like I could ride it straight from the test ride, as is, hundreds of miles up the road. The thing was that comfortable for me (the only one I ever test rode was 100 per cent stock).

[@Rockcityhooligan]

Sonny Barger loved his Victory Vision.

[@Yeri978]

I absolutely love my victory vision. Was actually inspired by shadetree a few years ago when he was talking about them and went to take a look at some. It was love at first sight.

[@joescott803]

Remember when you said Tampa never gets hit by hurricanes. That was cool. Seriously hope you’ll be ok

[@chilliin]

The Vision absolutely didn't kill Victory.

[@onthetrailtv]

I rode a Arlen Ness 2012 Victory Vision press bike from Los Angeles to the Las Vegas Bike Week in 2012 and absolutely loved it. At that time it would leave the Ultra Glide in the dust. I did so many burn outs they weren’t happy when I turned it back in. 😊 Love your channel! Keep it up!

[@DonaMane]

The Victory Vision was designed with the help of the late great Arlen Ness! I've ridden one in the past! Awesome bike!

[@browngreen933]

No wonder it looks so weird. Ness did tons of LSD. 😮

[@johnludmon7419]

Arlen Ness designs were very marmite you either loved or loathed them. Personally I loathed them and despite this bike being so good at what it does I wouldn't be seen dead on one.

[@keithulhul7540]

Motus was the greatest idea that never took off. Having a v4 that was identical in architecture and components to an LS engine was amazing. That engine was a beast, making 200hp in a motorcycle nearly a decade ago should have put them on the map, but just like buell, the market wasn't ready

[@dionrau5580]

Completely Agree 👍

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

They were way too expensive. We had a dealer for moths here in Pitt.

[@Jason-cm6uh]

I lusted after a Motus for years. I was so excited about an American made sport bike engine. The bikes were to expensive. The idea of the bike was good but the average Joe add's all of the upgrades over time because we can't afford that shit all at once. I'd still like to buy one, or at least one of the crate engines. Money

[@dmhiix]

I test rode one of these once. It seemed to have a number of features similar to My BMW K1200LT. One of the biggest weaknesses for me was the ridiculously small saddle bags. They look large but are barely big enough for your lunch.

[@carver7689]

Congrats to David for scoring a cool new ride, and it's a bike that can take you across the country, no problem. The more you talked about that Vision, the closer you got to describing a BMW R18. Which is also a very cool art-deco bike, and also hasn't sold very well. Wa-waa-waaaa

[@shenanigansofmannanan]

@18:39 the 1 major esthetic that I appreciate the most that the designers/engineers kept... was the visual isolation of the engine. That the "motor" of the "motorcycle" was the main focal point as it should be.

[@mikeg9450]

It was economics for Polaris. Victory captured 7% of the market and stalled right there. Bringing back Indian was a great move. They surpassed Victory market share 5 yrs into that venture and its still climbing. There is a lot of Victory DNA in Indian bikes. Its been a win for Polaris and consumers.

[@snowman231968]

Many victory owners are upset about that unfortunately your right economics and emissions killed victory. From what I’ve found the 106 couldn’t be made to pass eu emissions. Challenger/pursuit are as close to a victory that you can buy now.

[@howdiedoodie8587]

I had a Victory Kingpin with the 100 cu in engine. It was the best looking, riding, running bike I’ve ever owned and the paint was flawless as was the other quality. My son tried me one day on his 103 street glide. He was laying down on it cutting the wind when I went by him and shifted into 4 th gear right beside him. When he looked like a dot in my mirror I shifted into 6th and let off. Man was he pissed. Said he was going to get nitrous or a turbo. I just laughed. Hurt my back and the Victory just got too heavy for me so I scaled down in weight to a 2013 FXDBP. I like the Harley but it doesn’t ride near as smooth as the Victory did and the engine doesn’t pull as hard, but it’s still a great bike.

[@unclebilly1353]

I had a 05 king pin with the 92. Really a great ride. I had 53 thousand before I traded in for a KTM 1290 super adventure. I moved out west thinking I would use it off road. They are way too heavy to have fun. Its all work. Should of kept the king pin. And just gotten a second bike. Like a drz ,I end up getting. Great desert bike! I may end up getting on again.

[@mrspeigle1]

I got one of my own. Love the vision it's everything a touring bike needs to be. Gonna cry when I can't keep it going.

[@2WheelsCorner]

Victory's entire fail point was marketing for everything. As you stated, they were a runner-up to HD. They had a styling that did outfit aside from Harley, but HD casts a big shadow for a start up company from the 90's.

[@skunkbeard-biker]

The vision design was ahead of its time. The Goldwing is slowly morphing in design to look more like the vision. Give it time Josh, and you could have your dream come true. A Goldwing Vision Hybrid. The best of the Dad bikes.

[@louiswegener5537]

For myself it was the small cargo volume in the saddle bags. How could they design such a futuristic motorcycle with body work all down the side and once you open it, it’s the size of a small bag. That’s why I had to go with a cross country tour. The amount of luggage space is night and day difference. But the handling of that vision was extremely impressive for a bike that large. So glad to see an old Vision on your channel!! Thought it was a very cool looking bike. And I agree this is one of the big reasons why manufacturers do risk new designs.

[@joezuppardo9069]

The Victory Vision did not kill the Victory brand. Indian killed the Victory brand. The two brands could not compete with each other under the same tent. 2012 was the highest sales year for Victory. Indian came along the following year and Victory sales nose dived compared the Indian, Because the American motorcycle buying public identified with the Indian brand. Where they did identify with the Victory brand as an American motorcycle company.

[@windycityrebel]

Indian is number 1 in my book... Ill take that Victory over a Harley any day

[@plumcrazyswede]

I Ride a bright red 2011 Victory Cross Roads 106. I'm Dreaming about upgrading to a Magnum or a Vision in the future. The Vision being on the top of my list. I think Polaris should have kept Victory as a brand and only produced the huge touring machines. HD's and Indians are too small/tight for us fully grown people. I'm 6'8" and the Victory bikes are the best I've ever ridden.

[@LtJackboot]

Hunker down brother and hold Chey close, you got one ass kicker of a storm commin straight at ya! Love an Prayers❤

[@bradleyyounger8499]

I stopped in the victory dealer on Hillsborough Ave when they first came out.. I really liked it. Had a lot of cool features. If I was wanting a big touring bike I would have given it a serious consideration.

[@richardgordon2325]

I have a victory cross-country and it's the best bike I've ever own.And I was extremely mad when victory killed it.The vision is a beautiful bike.If you put a cross country back and on it , it is dropped dead sexy

[@MrJohnpmeadows]

I had a 2008 and a 2013 Arlin ness. I LOVED BOTH SOOOOO MUCH. great bikes

[@mathewkendell9056]

Owned a 2012 Victory Vision. Arguably looks as good as any Goldwing ( better in my opinion ) and powered by a v twin engine. These motorcycles were way underrated. Handled amazingly was perfectly comfortable completely stock. Only gripe was luggage capacity was pathetic considering the size of this behemoth.

[@andygrengs2838]

As someone who always wants to be different (and believe me, I am "different"), I really liked that bike when it came out. I ended up with a Yamaha Royal Star Venture in 2008 though.

[@EcSsAwS]

I absolutely love my Victory vision I would NOT trade it for any other bike made or was made Absolutely phenomenal how it rides Can tell it’s a 2008 model to 2010 because of the badges on the side of the tanks Late 2010 they went to the newer victory V logo Best thing is I’ll fukn walk 98% of Harley bikes

[@michaeljordan323]

The lighted side badge went through 2012. The 13's on had the cheaper badge. I own a 2012 Vision myself and LOVE it!

[@nickdroomer1708]

106 is a freaking beast with Loyd’s cams timing wheel and tune. Boom warp speed baby

[@timothydubois5834]

I have a '17 Vegas stage 1. I think it's fast as hell.

[@shortchaz]

Had a vision for 7 years and loved it. Would still have it if I had room in the garage for it! Victory was the only company making a cruiser big and comfy for us tall guys….I’m 6’9”. All the HDs and Indians feel too cramped.

[@packgrog]

Sadly my own riding season is over, as I had an accident yesterday when a stopped SUV decided to make a left directly into my path as I was going straight through a solid green. Not sure yet the condition of my bike, but I'm a bit scraped and bruised. Even as an ATGATT weenie, hitting the pavement at 45mph is still unpleasant. At least my swerve while hard breaking kept me from hitting the SUV itself. Ruined my Shovelhead Junkie Brap Star shirt, and I have to replace my gloves, jeans, and repair or replace my perforated leather jacket. My helmet was due for replacement from age anyway. But yeah, my Sporty is down for the count for the rest of the month at least. :/ Stay safe out there, folks. Even the world's best rider can't stop SUV-driving idiots from trying to kill you.

[@Vladimirshigeo]

Hope all is well Josh and the crew, please stay safe during these times!

[@heypop10]

I owned a Victory Vision and a Victory Vegas Arlen Ness edition both were great bikes this video was very informative, fun and I am with you Josh slap a V-8 in that Vision 👍 and haul a s s !

[@ZPDSurvival]

I like my 4. Honda 1982 V45 750. I can get up to 90 Fast. Lol. I need to rebuilt the clutch 24,000 miles. Love it. Rebuilt the Carbs.

[@phdep1]

Bought one for $3500 with 80k miles. Sold it two years later with 98k for $3500. You lie down in it like a dentist chair and do 110 all day long.

[@WokeInTruth]

Bro middle of the night on October 8th, technically the 9th, and we’re in palm beach county but I see nothing from you in 2 days and I know what’s comin bro….. I hope this finds you well and that you’ve made the best decision and I’m praying for your safety and sanity. Fr fr God bless yall in whatever you decided was best and safest for you. Full 100% support no judgment, we’re with you here in my household. This is not normal shit dude. Do you.

[@DebtheReb1369]

I've always loved Victory motorcycles design and sound. When Polaris dropped Victory I was so bummed. Congratulations David on your new motorcycle

[@stevetaylor9265]

Indian was always the in line 4 bike until the 90s to me anyway. I would like to see that again.

[@tophermohegan9797]

ME TOO kimosabi!🙏🏾 Specifically large displacement possibly turbo charged as a final answer to the triumph speed triple. Which has been unanswered for too long especially considering Indian is back in business and this would have happened immediately back in the day you know.🙌🏾💯💯💯🙏🏾

[@TOldMansJB]

I miss my vision. Most people hated the looks but it was the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. Back rest, heated seat and grips, electric windshield and a trailer for toy drives and camping. Tip protection where I just layed it on its side to change the shifter seal. Just hope you don't have to change one of the many taillights, nightmare!

[@chonny68hershberger75]

Congratulations David on the new bike looks awesome keep up the good work love what ya'll do ❤

[@joelblakley3085]

I bought a 2008 vision in 2008 after selling my business. I loved riding it 1o 2017 and sold if before it was announced that Victory is going to close. What an amazing bike!

[@tombair1401]

Victory was very reliable.

[@houseofsolomon2440]

Personal experience? ... just curious.

[@Paul20661]

howdy,watching this in the morning while eating my cereals before riding to another city for a concert tonight

[@edud8452]

Years ago I was in florida we drove through a small town they had these for police bikes

[@ribbitribbit1757]

Great bike, on first trip with paper plate in 2013 rode my brand new VV from San Antonio to San Diego to Seattle to Montana. Big fun comfy and will hold camping gear and 28 bottles of red wine, truly the shit to go ride ‘Merica 🇺🇸

[@DonGoldstein-b7q]

Polaris move in killing victory to re-design. Indian was nothing short of brilliant !! Indian motorcycles are gorgeous, high quality and pay homage to their heritage They’re giving Harley a run for their money. Sales are way up and will continue to increase.

[@broggyr]

I've had a 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour since it was new with 0 miles on it. The Vision is what brought me into the dealer ini the first place. The things that swayed me away from the Vision was the non-adjustable handlebars (before I knew aftermarket bars were available) and the little saddlebags (in contyrast to those huge saddlebag covers).

[@joshtruesdale9515]

I used to commute from Kissimmee to Tampa daily. My bike was down waiting on parts. My dad let me borrow his Victory Vision for about a month it was a dream to ride. Set the cruise control crank the tunes and the bike did the work. Could almost make the whole ride without touching the handlebars

[@r.williamcomm7693]

Have always liked the Vision. Unfortunately most of us can only own bike at a time so the Vision failed. But its going to start showing up in collections.

[@RobertYonng]

Victory the affordable Harley Davidson. 😉

[@deckardvostok2203]

quite the contrary.....only thing I would save of that thing is the power-train, that 106 is just a realiable, beast of a motor, but the frame and all that crap is just plain U.A.F!. This one and other Victory baggers are just plain U.A.F!; on the other hand most of their cruisers are really cool sleds. I am a Harley Biker but now I also own a Victory with the 106 motor and that things is just a bloody hot-rod sled, the color, the muscle-style-look. The 106 motor is the largest motor Victory ever produced and it is a superior motor than those new thundertrokes "indians"

[@harleyvulcancobra4.619]

Trouble coming from the west! Hope everybody stays safe!😎

[@frankm2348]

Congratulations David

[@ecrusch]

Great bike, David. Really happy for you.

[@mbarr1029]

Judge Dread meets Jeorge Jetson. Coolest bike I ever rode. For 4 years in a row I went to the dealers Vision Event. Just to ride it again and again. After 5 minutes on the bike, I felt like I had owned it for years. So Jealous you get to ride it.

[@nicholaszeller3559]

I like the look of the bike. Please be safe with the storm approaching!

[@gtrevino50]

You went all E.E. Cummings with your description of this bike. Definitely a third-option poet, so perfect explanation of this ride!

[@775summit2]

I owned a black '08 just like that. I still feel it was the most comfortable bike to cruise on with the heated seat heated warmers adjustable everything it was amazing

[@davidboydarnott417]

The 106 engine has a tidy, slender, elegance about it.👌I love the swoopy panniers, if you're gonna do streamlining may as well go full on.👍

[@miller4057]

I have a friend with one of those. I have to admit, that bike is like a caddy!! Every feature you could dream of!!!

[@coyster530]

I'm glad David found something new that's awesome I really hope he holds on to that bike I absolutely love the Victory Vision I think it is such a cool futuristic Touring bike.

[@gleno6270]

First time I rode one, I knew I was going to get one. Got my 14 Vision, unfortunately 16 yr old wrecked it. I ordered the 17 from the ER. Such great bikes. Love my 900lb Sportbike that Tours. Did a trackday on Monday and toured 1200 miles on Friday

[@jeffkinsey3801]

Pretty sure Mr. Arlen Ness himself had some input on this one.

[@jktho]

That motorcycle definitely belongs in Florida 💅

[@IICASPAA]

The first time looking at this bike, I was thinking they we're trying to share similar aesthetics with the Goldwing, it looks nice and got a powerful engine though. I wish Victory was still in business.

[@twistedbiker6909]

If this bike isn’t named “The Gotham Knight” we riot

[@vikingplumber9541]

The loss of the Victory Vision to history is the only reason I have any hate in my heart towards Polaris, I mean Canindian, I mean Indian motorcycles... Victory was awesome till they gave up on their cult following.

[@Jaysonic3423]

I saw one of there a few weeks ago on the square in my city. I had to circle the block to look at it again. Very cool looking, unique bike

[@SanitiveRevolution]

Hope you guys are taking whatever steps necessary to be safe with Milton barreling your way. PLEASE be smart, safe and blessed! Take care!

[@jasonmixsprouse4002]

Hey hope yall stay safe during the hurricane always look forward to the hurricane footage. But stay safe yall

[@c4or2ey0]

Yooooo, I'm actually trying to get me a victory vision tour right now! It rides pretty good i think. I love the cruise control heated seat and grips and the windscreen that goes up and down

[@frankgrimm387]

The whole line up of victory bikes had the best curves and lines. I wish they had given the Vision a water cooled motor for more power and also a larger trunk. Hard to justify choosing a Vision over a Goldwing on the used market when the Wings just out perform the Visions at every level.

[@goose916]

My old boss bought a Vision and he allowed me to ride it. I have to admit, that was a big girl that could dance! I really liked that bike.

[@ryguy9341]

I ran into a guy at the gas station the other day on one of these. Talked to him for a bit, he said he absolutely loved his! As me and my lady were leaving I said "that looks like a Shadetree bike!" and here it is!

[@randyandtheretreads3144]

I was unfamiliar with them until few weeks ago met a guy on one, Nice blue color, He loved it, said he only had to extend that handlebars. Maybe they did not promote it enough? I did tour their factory many years ago - like a space launch lab, indeed they spent $25M.

[@MrErinb76]

Check out the vic shop in Iowa and they can tune that 106 how you think it should be and if you want more than that, you can get a 117 big bore kit installed, all the power you need!

[@sticksfaz5413]

Victory is still alive and well, the similarities with Indian are everywhere. I still think the 106 is a magnificent engine, easy and cheap to make over 120 RWHP. My Victory is my forever motorcycle, just love it.

[@BAtadCrazy]

The only vlogs I care to listen to. 👍👍

[@Crosmyn]

It had never occurred to me to make the comparison before but the Vision and NM4 aesthetic similarities are definitely there.

[@V-max97]

I got 2 victory Vegas bikes. An 8 ball five speed and a silver 6 speed. Love them both and wish they’d come back!

[@mprime6807]

Loved my Vision. Was smooth as silk on the freeway. I really wish Polaris would've kept Victory as the performance division.

[@billbonu1639]

There's a guy by my house who's been trying to get 6,000.00 for his for about a year and a half.that is one big goofy looking motorcycle! I've had 3 fjrs in the last 20 years and still own two of them,a gen 1 and a gen 3 and couldn't be happier.the gen 1 has 142,000 miles, still goes 0-60 in 2.7 seconds and I just checked the valves for the second time and one was a little tight but still in spec.traded the Gen 2 for a Gen 3 klr to ride the gravel roads on so I'm good on bikes for a while.I wouldnt even go around the block on that crazy looking bike.

[@joekool4]

I love those bikes. Don't think I'd trade my Electra for one. But I'd love to have one with Jetsons spaceship livery. My cousin has a cross country and loves it.

[@garettanderson6772]

I love it. I don't remember it from back then but I think it's cool as heck. I'd be super proud to ride that bike. They are kind of affordable too, I just checked ebay.

[@michaelmrozovich4403]

That's the bike I want! So freaking beautiful. I'd need a different color, but that's the bike I want. I would definitely have a NCC 1701-D sticker on it (Because someone said it looks like a spaceship and that's why they didn't like it).

[@MidMichiganBiker]

Love the starship look of the vision, would love to take one for a spin. I agee an inline 4 would be sick and definitely give it that look!

[@Brian-nf7ck]

I just wanted to say hope y’all find a safe place to be during the storm is coming towards y’all. Enjoy watching your videos. I like to see more so please be safe.

[@DryHeatDoug]

Another Well Done!

[@ZPDSurvival]

All that work and money for wind design then put a light motor in it was a test. Bore out the Jugs and reprogram. Very cool bike essence of a chopper build with fairing and everything. Cool Vid. Never knew about this. Cheers.

[@tonysurridge6336]

I love the lines, a beautiful bike. Unfortunately a bit to heavy for me, so I will stick to my VF750c Magna!

[@c4or2ey0]

I fully agree with everything you said describing the bike. I love it and hope i can put it in my driveway.

[@simmsdn]

There are a few dudes in my CVMA chapter who are hard core Victory Vision cult members. I'm certain they pour the blood of virgins on their seat before every ride, that is how dedicated they are to the Victory Vision. Honestly, when they came out, I hated them...20 years later and I think they're incredibly cool...that's what happens when you can't have one.

[@WhiteTrash-uw2qn]

Glad David got him another 2 wheeled transportation device but that motorbike is not my style. It was/is a bit to futuristic for me. I'm not to big on the 24 HD baggers either. Again, happy for David!

[@duncanjowett5575]

Love your analysis of its styling - really made it make sense. No stereo on that thing tho?

[@grumpyoldretiredcop8382]

I've had the opportunity to ride the Vision and owned a Victory Cross Country. If Victory'd had the sense to put that Vision powerplant and transmission in the Cross Country, they'd have had real competition for the Street Glide and Electra Glide. As it was, the Vision was a wonderfully comfortable and competently handling tourer with miniscule storage that wouldn't even work for a couple on an overnight, never mind some epic cross-country (pun intended) road trip. Frankly, I will never forgive Polaris for killing Victory in favor of Indian.