The Mount Rushmore of Call of Duty | OpTic FormaL | The Eavesdrop Podcast Ep. 123

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[@pr3tv731]

Hey guys, it’s the original OpTic Pr3vieW here: Man FormaL saying my name is cool, that’s so dope!! Seriously my head was spinning for a few minutes when I heard that I really appreciate it!! A lot of people won’t know this, but OpTic had a TON of haters back in the day. We were sponsored by a website ladder called NxGamers while everyone else (like 95+% of the cod community) only played on gamebattles. So the majority of the competitive community would always trash us on the gb forums, saying we sucked and we only played on NxGamers because we weren’t good. I never outwardly told anyone this, but the reason I named myself OpTic Pr3vieW was for that reason… I was one of the best players we (OpTic) had. And so I wanted every random encounter that I had inside of a public lobby to show people what OpTic was about. I chose my name specifically to be a “Pr3vieW” of how good OpTic was, against the haters. Along with that I'm proud to say that OpTic Gaming was the only clan I was ever a part of, and ever knew. I never once clan hopped, never joined another clan (before or after), and never left even briefly during whatever little fights we had as 15-20 year old kids. I can say I was and stayed pure Green Blood. Once OpTic switched from competitive to youtube, the competitive side died down and I kind of had nowhere to go. I was too young to afford a computer that could edit videos back then and essentially missed the boat. Hecz started rolling the ball on youtube, building up steam and really made OpTic Gaming into what it is. He says it a lot lol but it's true. I can personally attest that what you see as OpTic Gaming is 100% because of him and what he made of our team. It wasn't J, it wasn't KR3W, it wasn't me (the best player on the cod2 team, way better than On3NOnly), and it wasn't the other original creator of OpTic beside KR3W, who by the way, his name was OpTic Enigma. If anyone has any questions from back then I can do my best to answer them! P.S. To H3CZ, I lowkey still got it a little if you ever wanna run some gbs, or let me special guest an OmoO session one night. You were the best Jr anyone could have asked for. The student has become the master. All love, Roland Please Like this so H3CZ can maybe see it!!! Thank you

[@Iriscience]

You're a legend bro, thanks for sharing

[@Trihurt11]

Wow if this is real this is lit

[@justinmontalvo2819]

I’m confused. Were you a pro player.

[@pr3tv731]

@@Iriscience Haha I appreciate it, but I'm not a legend by any means! I was just there to experience the "before times"

[@pr3tv731]

@@justinmontalvo2819 I would say no because technically there weren't any "pros" in Call of Duty back then (2006-2009). The only "pro" fps games were like halo, CS, and maybe one or two others. We played competitively on game ladders and did some tournaments though. I did win a few (either 3 or 4) cod2 tournaments when I was with OpTic. But the prizes were always like an xbox game of your choice, a new headset, etc. So if I wanted to stretch it I could maybe get away with Semi-pro lol There was this 1v1 ladder where the winner got a Xbox 360 that was signed by the Infinity Ward/cod2 developers. I came in 2nd and it still haunts me 15 years later

[@andrewhall3715]

Formal is probably one of my favorite guests on the podcast.

[@aaron-damonkassner4715]

Same! And I’m waiting for a dynasty podcast lol

[@Hiddenbarbar]

Him and Maniac are my favorite optic personalities

[@jw4491]

fr it's pretty crazy how much he's opened up and gotten more comfortable over the years. He used to be the shy guy

[@simoncraft5479]

such a well spoken and eloquent guy. love hearing him talk

[@chatolo1]

Formal and Hector's brother

[@Actrollvision8]

H3CZ being a guest on the Eavesdrop was really good. Great episode chaps.

[@granthughes9780]

Eavesdrop Drinking Game: Take a shot everytime hecz says he paved the way and built the scene 😂 Great podcast w Matty 🤙🏼

[@cflomedia8999]

take a shot everytime "tippable" is said

[@dei1547]

and everytime hecz says he is a sniper

[@Avantgardener103]

Are y’all trying to die of alcohol poisoning ?

[@Will-Frosty-Franken]

Every time hecz says the 90s was the best time period

[@sweaterzz5597]

Man when I first started watching hecz and heard him talk about how he is The Godfather of cod and how he is the one that built cod up to what it is. I figured it was just a talk he was having for that vlog. Little did I know he would talk about it in every video/podcast/interview ever lmfao

[@epikmero]

i could listen to formal for hours, i usually skip the podcasts, but not when formal or hecz brother is a guest.

[@Xysseus]

I love the Eavesdrop Podcast. I'm in the UK watching in the middle of the day. Listening to Hector talk about OpTic in the early days, gamertags, and talking about the H3CZQuarters. I love it; these are the conversations we need shown, so people in the future in our Community can look at. Gaming is now the IT thing. In the past, people who had a passion for games were shafted; they were bullied. Nowadays, you can play Games professionally and Stream games as a career. You could have a modern top of the line esports facility and the best players who are Final af. But what's final af? A passion place like the H3CZQuarters, an environment where you can Stream, hang out, make content, and play matches. It's the ultimate place to make content out. Who cares if it isn't the biggest or fanciest. Being in a room where everybody is passionate, hearing callouts, or reading out donations. I would love to be a wallflower at the H3CZQuarters fr. Imagine if they had a 24/7 live feed, muted for privacy, but to have that playing - seeing everybody interact would be cool and inspiring.

[@yianni171]

I grew up watching optic. the cod team competing, 6050, the scuf house. It was part of my everyday routine. I loved watching a maniac vlog and then watching nade vlog the same day but from a different perspective. Looking back its such a weird situation where I felt like I knew the guys because I was so invested into their everyday lives, yet they had no idea who I was on a personal level. Regardless, memories from that era of optic are some I will never forget.

[@Nodnaarb]

i don’t comment ever. but this was hands down the best episode ever. so entertaining the entire time.

[@bobbyatlas674]

Lmao “he’s in debt to you forever” had me chuckling I can’t get enough of this guy

[@ThanosTheTitan93]

Or when hecz said he's never fired someone and formal goes Roger come here 🤣

[@_FuriousGeorge_]

Formal to me is the funniest member of optic. Always look forward to seeing content involving him!

[@ItsBorland]

Formal is such a funny dude man and prayers out to everyone in Ukraine. Stay safe please

[@egochally7288]

Love listening to Formal. Down to earth and a charismatic guy on top of that.

[@MarkSmith-zg9gz]

New drinking game: take a shot everytime formal said tippable😂😂

[@kobebean7107]

I love formal man. Whenever he’s on the podcast time just flies by. Awesome episode

[@jupiterangulo1014]

Also can I just say we all love Formal, I am so glad he came out of his shell from 2015 cause he was so cool and funny back then, to be so extroverted it’s awesome to see, we love Formy, Optic forever H4F

[@ross6806]

Is there any chance of DTreats coming on the Evesdrop? Would absolutely love to see it and reminisce about the OG cod4 days

[@aj2563]

Or the boy OpTic Predator

[@BillV3]

Agreed. That would be a sick podcast

[@EnViiousHD]

@@aj2563 I'm with you, I've been saying this

[@epicbabyozzy3455]

I miss my gamebattle/clan friends from COD4. Those snd matches were everything back then

[@AndrewMillerTV]

Formal just instantly connects with viewers. In my opinion, because he's so straight up, honest, and unfiltered. I love that he just speaks his mind and doesn't care what other people think. I love watching Formal and I'm glad Optic is seeing the potential he can bring to the table from a content creation standpoint. Im excited to see where this journey takes him. Can't get enough of his streams.

[@xMLK3Y]

OpTic*

[@Dxyur]

The Eavesdrop podcast is literally the best one out here,can’t get enough of hecz and his funny ass personality and just a good guy in general, formal is to dam funny man he’s literally the best all off y’all 💚

[@nVDooM]

This is probably one of the best releases these guys have done, Cause there just both being genuine to each other about everything they are talking about like the microphones aren't even there, These 2 guys here are both super tippable in so many aspects. A simple video like this probably changed the outlook of so many people. Please keep doing what all of you do this is what makes Optic the org it is today.

[@hockeyplaya222]

I felt the gamebattles talk on a whole level. Cod4, Mw2 and blackops 1. Come home from school and just grind GB matches to be a top ten team. Team Sideways Effect. Never forget it.

[@ZurkeyTurkey]

"If aliens came in and said you have to make the best COD team you have ever seen, and there gonna play against our aliens... And we're nasty" Actually laughed my ass off to that

[@xolciy1432]

Thanks for the podcast needed this ❤️

[@raymondramirez2278]

You already know I’m watching both my dads .. I’m a literal 27 year old phenom now. Never going away🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@sheltondmello8031]

Formal is the same age as you but he's been around for so long I get what you mean 🤣

[@dylanmulroe9978]

Love that g

[@gerriguy4503]

Grown ass man calling dudes that don’t even know you your dad lmao get help

[@raymondramirez2278]

@@gerriguy4503 can’t stop won’t stop

[@JokerSlaysthegame]

Formal talking about playing CoD perfectly as a team is an exact thought I’ve had before. About 4 players all learning a specific CoD as if they’re taking a college course in order to learn setups and pushes and counters for literally every hardpoint hill on every map, every push in SND. Every single predictable scenario that you can plan for, this team will do it. It would probably take like 6 months.

[@tbird7296]

Formal is the perfect blend of expert insight of esports and sarcastic comedy. I think people gravitate toward him because he can be that serious voice of reason but then has the chat spamming H4F.

[@901outdoors2]

this is one of my favorite pod casts, couldnt stop smiling the whole time!

[@boostisu3366]

I was raised in Palatine, it was so cool knowing you guys lived so close while I was watching the Optic house videos

[@Winzzino]

Early morning podcasts to start my day gotta love it

[@capnslapz7902]

I absolutely love supporting this company! Thank you for all the hard work that you did and are still doing to help make this community what it is today.

[@richardalarid3273]

All roger has to do is setup an additional hdmi cord to each computer to a monitor then in display setting set it so that the second monitor show the same exact thing

[@richardalarid3273]

Now tip me. ;)

[@crisisdevil9499]

I will watch anything with Formal in it. He is great on the podcast. I would love to see him host a series of podcasts

[@MrLonewolf5150]

I know, it's been a long time from this podcast release. I really enjoy hearing about J. I know he is a good guy but a business man like Hecz. Thanks for keeping your voice clear of another man's decisions. I have always been conflicted about that the situation where everyone was trashing him. Love you Hecz but always enjoy the foundation of OpTic, even if some things were at a downward slope.

[@o.3313]

I love the convos between Hecz and Matt. Very Tippable conversation… 😉

[@xavierjimenez1159]

Formal and h3cz podcasts always have such chill vibes and good combos got to love this Duo

[@zucxys]

Love to see formal doing good and competing

[@theonlyazreal5859]

The Diesel & this podcast actually shows you a lot about HECZ + Optic. btw i'm posting this at this timestamp [ 22:25 ]

[@santiivz3437]

Formal needs his own pod or just have him on regularly when you don’t have a guest he’s amazing to listen to. The convos he has with H3CZ are fire

[@Blizzurt]

Got a lil 3 hour drive this morning for work perfect time for formals eavesdrop to drop

[@braxtonfps3580]

Hell yeah man

[@Jenksy-]

‘Idk if I can fire someone. “Let’s find out roger get over here” hahahaha

[@tannercasterlin7605]

Formal is always the best guest. Would be so dope if y’all had your own show!

[@Iam_jardow]

Formal podcasts are always a vibe

[@NoahCanada]

love when formal is on the pod... the GOAT

[@itssHavoc]

Formal is top 3 guest to have on the Eavesdrop podcast. #H4F

[@lukeciarallo5419]

Formal: u caused the mortgage crisis? Hecz: I was a business man doing business 🤷‍♂️

[@Good_Comms]

When discussing optimal playstyle, playing perfectly, and situation analysis in COD in order to be absolutely final af, it would take longer than the annual life cycle of a cod title. In Halo 5 it started looking like Splyce was reaching that point in 2018 especially thanks to Shotzzy. Shotzzy had hit the skill ceiling on an individual level in that game, not necessarily strategy, but in player movement, map traversal, mechanics essentially. Shyway did a great job of highlighting how efficient Shotzzy was on a map.

[@sGzBugz]

Them naming old COD clan names just reminded me of when I first joined GameBattles in 2008 and a team called Sick Six Squad was top of the COD4 ladder and I thought the name and clan tag [s6s] was so dope for a team of 6 players

[@Bruuhzy]

Formal the man the myth the legend straightest shooter I've ever seen on and fps my favourite to watch can't wait for him to come back to the cod scene and destroy it

[@TxTaylorIII]

Couldn’t sleep so made some coffee getting my day started and saw this ! Gonna be a good day!

[@About36Greekss]

Loved this . Still hoping we get a non gaming related podcast with formal. The alien talk and random things from last podcast were amazing

[@Coull97]

H3CZ talking about being 25 looking up to 17 year olds, is definitely what I’m living through lmao 🤣

[@nxxiv436]

Different eras different oppurtunities but it all goes down to dedication.

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

Lmao true I use to look up to these pros when I was 14 now I’m 20 💀 talking about damn this rookie is crazy I guess it’s the same thing with sports. It’s strange seeing dudes who are a year younger then me balling in the NFL or NBA. New Talent is always coming through so guess it’s something I gotta just get use to.

[@shawn1091]

This solidified Formal being the best guest for me...the chemistry H3CZ and Form has is actually too cool for school

[@Venusszn]

Formal is hands down the fps goat and one of the most amazing funniest humans always brightens my day

[@ryanlowe7315]

Console fps *

[@Venusszn]

@@ryanlowe7315 ur the ppl we don’t need in the comments

[@khaos661]

That bradon Jamaica joke is never going to get old for me. I can still hear it in my head like it was yesterday.

[@Ihatesports420]

lmao formals explanation of people wanting to be tipped is too accurate

[@maximilianocoronado1922]

Love Matt he always keeps the vibes at 100

[@chrismiller3346]

Hecz's grind is definitely inspirational. This shit hit home

[@schuylersnipez]

Gods was my team back in the day nightmare, triggerfinger and snipez founded it. I can't believe you remember that... way way back in the day.

[@sethtaccola]

@HECZ my dad worked at UPS for 36 years, started as a loader as well and just retired this year with a full pension.

[@RealCazTv]

I had a clan that was on the top 5 -10 for a long time back when it was just “game battles” clan name was Legends Of Chaos shit was pretty dope to have a squad to run with daily and play “competitive” and have communication and shit… now I’m old and have to work hahaha

[@jordanalexander7705]

“61 loans? Were you just cracked af that day?” “What’s up what are you guys eating?” 😂

[@itooshasty]

I didn't want this podcast to end man. Formal and hecz have a different level of chemistry.

[@iLive2PrayProducts]

16:00 I feel called out for my RS name I created 10 years ago 😂

[@jwar4580]

Thanks for the podcast H3CZ and Formal this gets me through the workday really fun to listen to

[@beastly5697]

Loved this podcast, so much insight into everything. Definitely makes you look at some things differently

[@mikala3933]

47:27 : Formal is spot on & I know many others feel the same - if CoD was taken seriously , it would become the biggest esport in the world. Some people don't prefer dota, some people have no clue what LoL is , CS / Valorant aren't everyone type of games - but EVERYONE knows what Call of Duty is... even if they've never played or haven't in 10 years. It would / will be the Esport in NA that connects major sports teams with organizations (K1 with faze). We are the only Esports league that is community built. We took this from hotel convention rooms to selling out venues..with the absolute bare minimum . If it wasn't for the anomalies this org has apart of it , This league wouldn't exist. Over the last 4 years Activision have developed pros into retirement - C19 was something no one could've predicted, but has nothing to do with blatant lack of effort being put into our league from the developer side. Over the years of terrible decision after another, we have lost our identity as a title. We are not a war-sim , we are not a realistic shooter, and if Microsoft has any braincells - they'll stop half-assing historically "accurate" games. Not having a trophy system for tournaments worth millions due to...realism shows that we are a joke to them. I refuse to believe these devs aren't talented enough and these titles are things they're actually proud of. We are 3-5 years away realistically from rivaling sports franchises in relevancy - we just need a title .. not set in fucking 1960, that the world wants to play and watch.

[@damenbray4718]

I could listen to these two talk all day, So entertaining thought inducing!

[@robertocordova6083]

Imagine tumors and formal on a podcast just two vibey dudes who speak freely it would be hilarious love formal on the podcasts i see formal i click its that simple

[@s1nb4d86]

When you realize the Podcast flipped the script and it was HECZ being the guest in FormaL's Podcast. Who can pull up the stats of time to talk for each in this? 😂😂

[@oscarjamaica1996]

Deadass I never comment on any vids, but you 2 should do a weekly podcast. Talk about random shit, I could listen for hours on hours.

[@goldmans95]

I'm not a pro player and never could be. I am an auditor and would never really commit to gaming as a career as a player or part of an org, but y'all spoke to me at 1:00:30, honestly inspiring.

[@ToManyPuncakes]

Its so crazy to hear hector talk about old cod and the clans I remember I was in the S0 clan who was ran by S0 Wyte so S0 many lies miss you cuh 😭😭

[@Chiraq872]

Mike is underrated! One of the best Main AR’s in the game💯

[@appdaddy195]

Formal is the best guest. Any content with him is mad entertaining

[@ap32thrillz96]

Best video to ever come out this early

[@orbitathegoat4639]

I love watching these podcasts , listening too the holy Man of Cod talk gives me wisdom

[@joshuaatlas1309]

Hecz, you should put up all the optic event wins up as banners in your Arlington location. I remember the old mlg events with the hall of banners. That use to be raw. I think it’d be amazing if you’re able to do it.

[@jackneumann3781]

People like to categorize people, and if so, Formal is in that Nadeshot, Scump, Hecz group of "cornerstones of OpTic", in my opinion.

[@Sage_OGK]

hahaha i had to to spark the blunt when HECZ said 'i got a computer in front of me'

[@ComicKodi]

Camera cutting straight to Hector every time Formal spits into his bottle lmao

[@AdamBombx]

Been working at UPS for 10years now, was a loader for 4 and it was terrible.

[@chasemcbean2991]

Hecz and formal are goated as a duo for a podcast

[@native22]

Had the opportunity to meet optic formal when I was a little younger but great guy all around would love to see him still play In call of duty pros

[@Scho_]

This needs to be a weekly occurrence. Formal as a guest on the eavesdrop weekly is what we need

[@xTirant22x]

god hecz is such a good fucking podcaster. and formal too, his voice is so unique in a dope way and dude has incredible comedic timing

[@yorelax6688]

Hector had the explanation of ups right that’s what I’m going thru rn 😂😂

[@raysavestheworld]

In Halo 2, if we saw KSI tags, it was like smelling blood. They were the boy scouts of H2. No hate, but they were so casual that any montage kid, semi-pro etc. could dominate a lobby of KSI players. We used to joke that they were a book club from the local parish. Good times. Long live Halo 2.

[@codybgaming1414]

Formal and scump are by far the best personalities and players in the league

[@greedyebk7146]

Was this before or after Formal joins the Optic Halo team ??? Time stamp of when they talk about joining the team.

[@NLDarknessOnYT]

You should get all the OG (Who "Spawned" OpTic) together on the podcast

[@itssHavoc]

38:00 zzirGrizz is the sniping CoDfather. That man single handily created an entire community. 🐐

[@itssHavoc]

Also, the sniping Mount Rushmore would be zzirGrizz, OpTic Predator, FaZe Fakie & iReapZz. If you know, you know.

[@PorkChopXpress4385]

Flint is a rock. It makes sparks when it is struck with steel.

[@Drunkhokage]

Roger in debt forever for CDL points that’s comedy lol

[@nichyde2813]

Formal needs a podcast mane

[@walkeradrian1989]

5:00 minutes in for formal to say checked out 😂😂 i’m impressed.

[@sweaterzz5597]

“He’s in debt to you forever… he owes you 20 CDL points” lmfaooo

[@Joshua74801]

As a son of immigrants, he's 100% correct with immigrants always making sure they are working/making money.

[@thomasmcshane2438]

Flint is a piece of stone boys 😂😂

[@chatolo1]

That's what they made the first tools out of 🤣

[@Good_Comms]

Matt and Dashy's convo about a player coming in to the league and dominating with a sniper in respawn, would be comparable to Steph Curry revolutionizing the 3-point shot

[@giovannivergara94]

Matt podcasts are always bangers