The Mysterious 1982 Sairam Mountain Disaster: A SOVIET TEAM THAT NEVER RETURNED

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6 ай бұрын

In September of 1982, around 50 mountaineers from a Kazakh sports club set up a base camp in the Sairam Su gorge located in South Kazakhstan. During one of their training hikes, a group of five athletes from Karaganda did not return to the base camp when it was already dark, later three of them would be found frozen on the slopes but the fate of other two still remains unknown...
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@RSF-DiscoveryTime
@RSF-DiscoveryTime 6 ай бұрын
As far as ruling out a fall because of not hearing screams, don't forget that nothing muffles sound like snow. You can't hear anyone yell or scream in a snowstorm unless they are very close. Between the howling wind and the ability of snow to cancel out sound in a short distance it could be doubtful that you'd hear anyone yell at all. Love your videos, BTW definitely subscribed.
@katedaphne4495
@katedaphne4495 5 ай бұрын
Actually smoke muffles best.
@nunyabiznes4471
@nunyabiznes4471 2 ай бұрын
@@katedaphne4495really? Why is that?
@Vikingocazar
@Vikingocazar 2 ай бұрын
Snow insulates against sound so well that there are many railroad deaths where people are walking on RR tracks in the winter and do not hear trains coming from behind them.
@Whyusemyname
@Whyusemyname 14 күн бұрын
Yeah that didn’t make any sense. Someone can fall right next to people without it being noticed.
@karenholmes9560
@karenholmes9560 6 ай бұрын
Fortuna should have gone back to camp with his team when he saw the flare. They would have survived had that happened. A lapse in judgment of the weather can causse deaths in any mountain and they should have known that by the way they were dressed for summer.
@silentbliss7666
@silentbliss7666 6 ай бұрын
Maybe they didn't see the flare because of the weather, but still, they didn't turn back when the temperature had gotten too cold for them
@phillipproussier3723
@phillipproussier3723 5 ай бұрын
Fortune was not on the side of Fortuna that fateful day.
@Alpha-numeric-lifestyle
@Alpha-numeric-lifestyle 3 ай бұрын
Vodka.
@lippesamsung8878
@lippesamsung8878 3 ай бұрын
​@@phillipproussier3723c'mon he's literaly dead, could you at least make no jokes about his name?
@phillipproussier3723
@phillipproussier3723 3 ай бұрын
@@lippesamsung8878 Is there someone who is going to live forever?
@lyedavide
@lyedavide 6 ай бұрын
What a tragic case. They should have all gone back when the weather broke. Like so many inherently dangerous outdoor activities, it is always better to be safe than dead. You can try again next year, but only if you survive this year.
@charlesdial7152
@charlesdial7152 6 ай бұрын
I never could understand the mindset of a hiker and a climber that they always put themselves in danger. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@travelerforever8849
@travelerforever8849 6 ай бұрын
true.. and they put the rescuers in danger as well. @@charlesdial7152
@jacobinmugatu3333
@jacobinmugatu3333 4 ай бұрын
@@charlesdial7152you put yourself in danger everyday and probably don’t realize it. The key is doing things safely to avoid that danger. That’s what hikers and climbers do. When they don’t, they pay the price
@johnwayne3085
@johnwayne3085 3 ай бұрын
If you had a life, instead of just watching other people live their lives on the internet your opinion would be worth a isht.
@jonlee2217
@jonlee2217 2 ай бұрын
@@johnwayne3085 People could say the same about you, buddy. You can't even think of an original name to use online. Now get off yer horse and drink yer milk.
@evapreu3011
@evapreu3011 6 ай бұрын
I suppose they went up to the peak with Fortuna, and while Fortuna returned to the two others, they went on, probably trying to meet the other group or going back to camp on the shorter route and then got lost somewhere on the way there.
@justiceLaw0123
@justiceLaw0123 5 ай бұрын
People need to learn when and when not to push their limits. Every tragic story I’ve read off or learned about it’s always because someone tried pushing beyond their means. I’m sorry for those who had to experience the loos of their loved one especially the children.
@WarrenHolly
@WarrenHolly 5 ай бұрын
No hat gloves a trinket. Smells like alien abductions
@1TakoyakiStore
@1TakoyakiStore 6 ай бұрын
The area the 3 were found reminds me of the ridgeline of the President peaks in New Hampshire. It's an area known for unpredictable weather and high winds, and it's not even 2km in height. It makes me wonder if conditions were right to where the missing climbers were literally blown off the mountain (updraft from a squal or a snow whirl) and carried unusually far? Their remains could very well have been deposited in the treetops of the forest below or even on another nearby mountain. The biggest tell for me is the low temperatures and flashing lights. Whirls/devils/tornados cause a lot of particles to rub against each other causing electrical discharges. During the dust bowl of the 1920's and 1930's the constant barrage of sand striking made fences glow. Same thing can occur in cold dry environments. There's a well known case of climbers in Colorado reaching the peak of a mountain and experiencing st Elmo's fire emanating from their finger tips. If the lights seen around the mountain in this video are caused by the weather then there can be no doubt that turbulent wind was occurring there.
@M60gunner1971
@M60gunner1971 3 ай бұрын
Mr Store, I don't understand
@moxie77
@moxie77 6 ай бұрын
You did an excellent job with this story.
@dreameroldsoul
@dreameroldsoul 3 ай бұрын
He should upgrade his mic. Its too bassy and not audible
@matthewjames1078
@matthewjames1078 3 ай бұрын
Seems strange that unpredicted weather fronts play roles in lots of missing mountaineers..
@Whyusemyname
@Whyusemyname 14 күн бұрын
That statement is kinda like “seems strange that lots of people drown during tsunamis”
@secretagent5954
@secretagent5954 6 ай бұрын
easy to explain what the problem was: they went hiking. in kazakhstan. after seeing merked cows on the road. whose whole existence is to live there and not die
@StAlphonsusHasAPosse
@StAlphonsusHasAPosse 6 ай бұрын
Yes!
@lippesamsung8878
@lippesamsung8878 3 ай бұрын
Best, most underapreciated coment thus far!
@Mach11976
@Mach11976 4 ай бұрын
Just like the D Pass of 1958, it was an avalanche my ass! It was something we all say doesn't exist? The Big Fella.
@sandyslapr6317
@sandyslapr6317 2 ай бұрын
people are so clueless to their existence this a crazy world
@phillipproussier3723
@phillipproussier3723 5 ай бұрын
Fortune was not on the side of Fortuna that fateful day.
@arthurchadwell9267
@arthurchadwell9267 5 ай бұрын
Fortune may favor the bold, but sometimes "bold" becomes "foolish".
@Mrch33ky
@Mrch33ky 5 ай бұрын
Hypothermia is no joke.
@user-kv8wh1bz9h
@user-kv8wh1bz9h 6 ай бұрын
I can hear @misstika as the female voice for this video! and the male voice appearing in her videos is the main narrator here. That's a nice expansion of duo work
@silentbliss7666
@silentbliss7666 6 ай бұрын
The flashes of lights observed on the mountains are very intriguing
@fun2916
@fun2916 4 ай бұрын
The first 9 minutes of this video basically explains what happened. Sudden Change in weather, hypothermia, death. This was a tragic accident. Nothing more. There are thousands of cases where remains could not be recovered in mountain accidents
@wattyler9806
@wattyler9806 5 ай бұрын
Good video. I'd not heard of this story before.
@metronorthwtrain1452
@metronorthwtrain1452 5 ай бұрын
Better to have and not need than need and not have. Very wise words. I've spent extended time in the desert and you wouldn't believe how cold it gets at night. If you don't have cold weather gear it's a huge problem. Extra weight or 💀
@arthurchadwell9267
@arthurchadwell9267 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely. "Be Prepared" isn't just a slogan. The modern "minimalist" hiking style -- "hiking boots" that are basically hi-top sneakers, a candy bar and a quart of water is dangerous.
@hildahilpert5018
@hildahilpert5018 4 ай бұрын
My dad was in North Africa during WW2,, and said the same thing you did about the desert being cold at night
@justincovert6943
@justincovert6943 4 ай бұрын
I had heard that it was cold at night in the desert but until you experience it. You can't quite wrap your head around it.
@Robinnicky
@Robinnicky 6 ай бұрын
I love your channel. I always look forward to your new videos ❤
@JustAllinOneResource
@JustAllinOneResource 6 ай бұрын
You never know what is up ahead. A person can prepare for certain things but not all of them.
@slhickinson43
@slhickinson43 5 ай бұрын
Nature is unforgiving 🥺😞😢
@Sunshine-lo6vd
@Sunshine-lo6vd 2 ай бұрын
Yup… so are the betrayed.
@dominusetdeus060644
@dominusetdeus060644 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always!
@nicholasporter1417
@nicholasporter1417 5 ай бұрын
Love ur videos. Can we have more on the paranormal is The Tunguska region. 🇬🇧
@desdicadoric
@desdicadoric 6 ай бұрын
Very sad leaving a pregnant wife behind 😢
@PotooBurd
@PotooBurd 5 ай бұрын
This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌
@Minoltalphafan
@Minoltalphafan 5 ай бұрын
How do you go from something ate the meat in your bag without damaging the bag or the bones and leaving them there(which suggests the creature sat right there and dined) to something lives here that could eat two bodies and leave no trace?
@lippesamsung8878
@lippesamsung8878 3 ай бұрын
If the creature was careful enough to just go for the meat it wanted, that possibly means it could be careful enough to kill the both hikers, feed of their flesh and then hide or bury their clothes, their belongins and anything of their corpses that might have been left uneaten, in order not to be found by humans who would eventually, come looking for them. The only condition is, the creature must be big, strong and inteligent enough to kill two human beens and understand the need to hide/bury whatever is left of'em not to have its existence disturbed.
@AverageAmerican
@AverageAmerican 3 ай бұрын
@@lippesamsung8878 Okay. Except, the creature left a trace. It left the bones and the bag untorn. So, it isn't careful enough to leave no trace which suggests it would leave the bones of the hikers and their untorn clothes...
@alldog222
@alldog222 5 ай бұрын
Man, that ain't my kind of Sports club.
@omgwtfbbqownage
@omgwtfbbqownage 5 ай бұрын
I love your content man. Keep it up!
@mchrome3366
@mchrome3366 5 ай бұрын
You put out great stories . Never disappointed. Thanks
@miroslawkowalski3613
@miroslawkowalski3613 5 ай бұрын
My first thought when I notice my food is missing is that somebody had stolen it not that BigFoot had devour my breakfast.
@renoallstate4573
@renoallstate4573 6 ай бұрын
Instant click and thumbs up 👍
@legitbeans9078
@legitbeans9078 6 ай бұрын
Great video 😁👍
@Nyctophora
@Nyctophora 6 ай бұрын
RIP, the lost.
@basketballmaven1454
@basketballmaven1454 4 ай бұрын
I skimmed through this video but it reminds me of the dyatlov pass incident
@anthonysheppard9247
@anthonysheppard9247 6 ай бұрын
Great video, interesting content ,just a question,,what country is the narrator from
@brianthomason5022
@brianthomason5022 2 ай бұрын
I've been looking for a new channel to compete with beyond creepy and Preston Dennett encounter videos. I hope you upload consistently on such cases
@averysibon1880
@averysibon1880 6 ай бұрын
i love your videos ❤️ it’s makes my week 🩷
@patriciatodd1278
@patriciatodd1278 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful graphics!!! It's almost like being there!
@TrudyPatootie
@TrudyPatootie 5 ай бұрын
*I watch videos like this to study human behavior. I like to know what makes people* *make the decisions they make. I stayed behind on Pine Island during one of the* *deadliest hurricanes Florida had seen. I had rescued a shut down dog who has never* *left my office/bedroom with me. She was brought to me and she was totally knocked* *out with drugs. The first week she stayed under my daybed. I slept with her and hand* *fed her. She is an English Springer 60#. *I was informed that the island would be uninhabitable...the bridge was wiped out* *and that I would have to take my dog by helicopter to get off the island with me. My* *dog would never leave my office let alone be in a car...let alone a helicopter. She was* *6 years old and had been locked in a cage for 4 years. No socialization. She had 4* *cages placed on top of her and their bodily fluids would be dripped down on her.* *She was hosed down every 32 hours. When I say shut down...I mean SHUT down.* *During the hurricane we laid under the bed while our house shook and trees fell on the* *house and deck torn down...pictures fell off the wall. The aftermath is undescribable* *Alone with my dog without food or power. I lived on peanut butter for days. A tree had* *fallen on my car. Of course no A/C and temp. inside was over 100 degrees F.* *I had so many agencies coming to my home to tell me that I had to evacuate. I* *told them about my dog and showed them to her. They all insisted that I leave her* *behind. I was not going to leave my dog alone to starve to death. The bridge was going* *to be built (they informed me) in about a year (or 2). Thank God DeSantis cut through* *the red tape and had it finished in 10 days.* *So many people had/have criticized me for my decision. They asked how I could* *stay behind because of a dog? Many left their pets behind...many didn't. I am 76. I had* *a good life...and if I had to do it over I would have made the same decision. We all have* *choices in this life. The hikers make their choices and many have been criticized. The only* *people that understand hikers drive/addiction/obsession to get to the top are other hikers* *The only people who understand the decision I had to make are others who have dogs* *cats/horses etc. that they would refuse to leave behind to die of starvation.*
@majasrbia
@majasrbia 5 ай бұрын
I understand you . I have a dog . God bless you. 💕
@TrudyPatootie
@TrudyPatootie 5 ай бұрын
@@majasrbia *So you get it! I was* *going to delete my comment. I* *know that it was long and some* *may think it didn't belong. I just* *wanted to make a point about the* *choices we have to make in life.* *Majasbia...Can you imagine* *leaving your loyal devoted loving* *dog behind to die? A woman on the* *island had 10 horses and they* *insisted she leave them behind. She* *stood her ground too! Thank you for* *commenting.* 💞
@Wisald
@Wisald 6 ай бұрын
It's astonishing how grief can push otherwise rational people into completely nonsensical superstitions.
@sandradalton4800
@sandradalton4800 6 ай бұрын
Terrible tragedy. Your story was new to me and very enjoyable.
@user-fd8py7th6h
@user-fd8py7th6h 5 ай бұрын
Yep sounds like another tragedy kinda like the dyotlov pass they were running from something its funny tho cause back at the dyotlov tragedy just one thing the tent was cut with a knife either they hurd something comeing or peaked out f the tent or something or someones were blocking the openingnto the tent and bullets were not found in the bodys know any caseings so someone's or something got midevil on them and one more thing if it were the military why dd the others get found by a tree frozen u would think there would be a thuro search to make sure the job was done and leave no witneses also they were fund pretty much naked so mystery cover up or something there so out there russian military couldnt contain there last picture was a circular bright light bizzar
@ianjames1179
@ianjames1179 6 ай бұрын
Definitely aliens, everything is aliens.
@andrewkaye2108
@andrewkaye2108 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. I have never heard of this case before now.
@doverh3
@doverh3 3 ай бұрын
I have a question. Since the party was tied together by a rope and the lead unlatched himself away to seek help. What happened to the rope connection to those two missing?
@howarddavies782
@howarddavies782 4 ай бұрын
Some people who perceive themselves to be superhuman, find to their cost that they are not when the circumstances change. I feel sorry for the people left behind. Good video.
@sandyslapr6317
@sandyslapr6317 2 ай бұрын
like when the 9 foot man reveals himself to you..
@greengoblin876
@greengoblin876 5 ай бұрын
" Disappearing into thin air " well ..they were in the mountains!
@kevinrice7635
@kevinrice7635 5 ай бұрын
As a rule doing what's right can be immensely challenging believe that Pilgrims.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 6 ай бұрын
Is it me or are two guys taking a leak at 2:37?
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 3 ай бұрын
I’ve done quite a lot of hunting above the snowline. There’s lots of places you could take a fall and never be discovered. These people were suffering from hypothermia and irrational and could have wandered off anywhere. Pretty sure the steep slopes there would not have been possible to search effectively. There’s no real mystery here - people die in the wilderness all the time and it’s often just pure luck if they’re ever found.
@Vikingocazar
@Vikingocazar 2 ай бұрын
Success being measured by achieving the peak or the destination is such a powerful thing. It’s bloody hard to turn back even in shit weather. We get super focused and think it can’t happen to us.
@miroslawkowalski3613
@miroslawkowalski3613 5 ай бұрын
They fell into one of many creavesses. End of story. Nothing paranormal, nothing unusal.
@danavius
@danavius 3 ай бұрын
Please master your content, the volume jumping up and down makes it hard to follow as I have to keep turning it up and then down.
@respektetoutlavi714
@respektetoutlavi714 5 ай бұрын
Can anyone cite an original article to this incident, I can not seem to find any information aside from a couple KZbin videos?
@eulaijhabass6882
@eulaijhabass6882 5 ай бұрын
Same I found this from TikTok and they even named the mountain wrong can’t even find anything on Reddit
@respektetoutlavi714
@respektetoutlavi714 5 ай бұрын
@ArchiesArchive, can you help me out here!?
@jamesburke6078
@jamesburke6078 4 ай бұрын
Something dies in this mountain!
@ScoobieSwisher7413
@ScoobieSwisher7413 2 ай бұрын
As far as the rogue weather coming in, this is exactly precisely what David Paulides talks about in his books and documentaries, I'm almost speechless right now.
@buckmaster3594
@buckmaster3594 3 ай бұрын
It's called not having the proper equipment. Webster's Dictionary calls on amateurs
@TheCoon1975
@TheCoon1975 5 ай бұрын
Boris and Natasha? Really dude, come on now.
@arthurchadwell9267
@arthurchadwell9267 5 ай бұрын
Taken out by the CIA's most talented assassins-- Rocky and Bullwinkle.
@ccgator8185
@ccgator8185 4 ай бұрын
I don't feel sorry for any of them. If they were going up there for something like gold or artifacts it would be different but they went just to be going. Leave them where they fell.
@user-vd1uz3dj8l
@user-vd1uz3dj8l 3 ай бұрын
Just how many of these Soviet climbing groups have died mysteriously?
@charlesdial7152
@charlesdial7152 4 ай бұрын
U are right about that, but I don't understand there mindset.💔❤️‍🩹🖤💥💯.
@lorenzbroll0101
@lorenzbroll0101 3 ай бұрын
It's always the most beautiful looking places in the world which are also the most dangerous. I suppose their beauty puts too many in an off guard mentality as to the dangers?
@manjsher3094
@manjsher3094 5 ай бұрын
Fortuna not so much.
@kevinrice7635
@kevinrice7635 5 ай бұрын
Rather freeze than ruin your Karma.. ... Russians are tough people believe that Pilgrims.
@muchtested
@muchtested 6 ай бұрын
Why would the second missing set have unhooked themselves from the tandem? If mountaineering rules have been explained correctly on this channel's other videos, the two men bringing up the rear were stronger than the two found near Alexander. Theoretically, they could have made it somewhere, but why no contact unless they murdered people, were in love with each other, or a crazy reason.🤔
@scallopohare9431
@scallopohare9431 6 ай бұрын
Maybe just irrational from the cold.
@muchtested
@muchtested 6 ай бұрын
@@scallopohare9431 That's a good reason.
@thomastaylor1594
@thomastaylor1594 3 ай бұрын
Missing 411 case!
@darksoul479
@darksoul479 2 ай бұрын
The climbers are still there somewhere, they just have not found them yet.
@davidcopson5800
@davidcopson5800 4 ай бұрын
Never turn your back on mother earth.
@michellejohnson9202
@michellejohnson9202 2 ай бұрын
Natasha and Boris. Not funny but LOL on Bullwinkle.
@kc72186
@kc72186 3 күн бұрын
The Boogie man is no myth 🐉
@shanewilson9814
@shanewilson9814 4 ай бұрын
Not a lot of mystery involved here....
@tonymaiorano2749
@tonymaiorano2749 3 ай бұрын
Dyatlov Pass, anyone ?
@drewl5221
@drewl5221 5 ай бұрын
Crevice, cravasse, its all the same to me
@arthurchadwell9267
@arthurchadwell9267 5 ай бұрын
Especially if you fall in!
@goingoutonmyshield2811
@goingoutonmyshield2811 2 ай бұрын
I've said it before and ill say it again, This place we call home is anything but, we are at the mercy of a devious higher intelligence that thrives simultaneously from our ignorance and curiosity, as like cows on a ranch, we can be quietly plucked from the herd for slaughter never to be seen again.
@Vaslof
@Vaslof 6 ай бұрын
It's definitely aliens. Source: trust me bro
@secretagent5954
@secretagent5954 6 ай бұрын
disrespectful to bigfoot tbh
@Bigsosa69
@Bigsosa69 6 ай бұрын
😂
@MarvinHartmann452
@MarvinHartmann452 6 ай бұрын
Agree. Alien bigfoots.
@miroslawkowalski3613
@miroslawkowalski3613 5 ай бұрын
But it is a great scenario for SF movie! "BigFoot vs Aliens"
@jondon808
@jondon808 5 ай бұрын
​@@miroslawkowalski3613 no
@Simp_Zone
@Simp_Zone 5 ай бұрын
Grooep
@edhuber3557
@edhuber3557 Ай бұрын
Dang space aliens need to stop doing this....
@michaelswift9408
@michaelswift9408 5 ай бұрын
I like to climb mountains naked, all the time. I remember the time I got my ass froze off.
@bjmartin5225
@bjmartin5225 4 ай бұрын
We’re did this happen ? I’m not buying all that . About flying saucers . Maybe this is just a. Camp fire tale .
@spliterin2743
@spliterin2743 3 ай бұрын
The Eskimo cartel...
@zodwancube3874
@zodwancube3874 3 ай бұрын
They're are with Aliens
@mandalorianmama
@mandalorianmama 6 ай бұрын
I definitely think they got lost/fell/died somewhere on that mountain that day. OR the mysterious stomping around the campsite and ram eating was them. They were secretly in love with each other but were oppressed and they decided to go live together on the mountain forever. But probably the first one
@secretagent5954
@secretagent5954 6 ай бұрын
ive had to watch this video THREE TIMES to figure out what RIDICULOUS theory youre pushing holy moses. yup the two missing ones were gay saw their chance to escape into the mountains to live together and have been stealing food from campers. nice.
@maryamk3977
@maryamk3977 5 ай бұрын
​😂😂😂😂😂😂 ​@@secretagent5954
@tecumsehcristero
@tecumsehcristero 2 ай бұрын
The “psychics and shamans” quote is a dead giveaway that this is pure fiction Psychics and Shamans didn’t exist in the Soviet Union. This is a very bad anachronism. I actually thought this was a real account but it’s just a work of fiction.
@prime-rib
@prime-rib 6 ай бұрын
Good video....until the UFO crap
@stevenakey7145
@stevenakey7145 3 ай бұрын
Shilly............
@user-ni1ig7un1e
@user-ni1ig7un1e 4 ай бұрын
Stupidity, Just to prove you can climb a mountain it's hard to feel sorry for people that are risk takers .
@wileecoyote5929
@wileecoyote5929 5 ай бұрын
Them damn Aliens 👽 running amuck
@REDINKmysteries
@REDINKmysteries 4 ай бұрын
Def corrupt givernment killing thepoor hikers. There are far too many stories of experienced hikers dying in remote areas that covert military operatiins were.
@chicagogyrl4846
@chicagogyrl4846 29 күн бұрын
I wish there was a better narrator.
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