The Mysterious Slave Leader You Had Never Heard Of | Cecile Fatiman

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Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of Cecile Fatiman, a Haitian vodou priestess who oversaw the vodou ceremony at Bois Caïman, which is considered the starting points of the Haitian Revolution.
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@LaVraieNzari
@LaVraieNzari 7 ай бұрын
As a Haitian-American woman who happens to be a Vodou practitioner and an intellectual of Haitian history and traditional culture, Cécile Fatiman makes me so proud to have my identity. Thank you for covering her life in this video. I appreciate it so much. May the Universe bless you and give you peace. ❤❤❤
@Studioladya
@Studioladya 7 ай бұрын
Question. If someone finds a book of spells and burns it. Can her entire family be cursed. N if the owner of book was a deep well know practitioner from Bahamas bring it to SC geechies.
@entertainingblackmanvideos7691
@entertainingblackmanvideos7691 7 ай бұрын
You probably scare all the men away from you
@ayanna439
@ayanna439 6 ай бұрын
​@@entertainingblackmanvideos7691Well, after all she's safer that way.
@scorpiocara6798
@scorpiocara6798 6 ай бұрын
Voodoos not real
@LaVraieNzari
@LaVraieNzari 6 ай бұрын
@@ayanna439 Agreed, mi luv I let only those with good intentions in my space, as all women should
@Liberty.girl82
@Liberty.girl82 7 ай бұрын
The Haitian people stood up against the French slave owners and established their own government?! I have mad respect for that! Awesome.
@sagitterroristreigns8899
@sagitterroristreigns8899 7 ай бұрын
Yes ma’am they defeated the strongest army at the time😊
@HaitianBlackGinger11
@HaitianBlackGinger11 7 ай бұрын
Not only the French. Largely through the efforts of one man: Toussaint L'Ouverture. No longer a slave himself, Toussaint nonetheless trained and led the half million African slaves of Haiti to victory after victory, over England and France, for more than a decade. In the process, he kept America free from European domination.
@anima-mundi111
@anima-mundi111 7 ай бұрын
@@sagitterroristreigns8899interesting name…. 🤔
@Studioladya
@Studioladya 7 ай бұрын
N they’re still paying for it
@Zoebreakingchains1804
@Zoebreakingchains1804 7 ай бұрын
the price of freedom is courage. something many don't posses now a days. @@Studioladya
@irishwoman3975
@irishwoman3975 8 ай бұрын
The variety of stories are always interesting. Your channel is in no danger of becoming stale.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@deecooper1567
@deecooper1567 8 ай бұрын
Ditto that 👍👵🏻👩‍🌾❣️
@Miss_Camel
@Miss_Camel 7 ай бұрын
I’m so proud of how confident he’s become being in front of the camera and not just being a voice!! It makes it feel like the story is more personal and relatable, and he’s doing an amazing job!
@lovedavis9572
@lovedavis9572 7 ай бұрын
​@@ForgottenLivesGreetings! Enjoying your videos from the Bahamas 🇧🇸
@juned1719
@juned1719 7 ай бұрын
46 years later and she still looks amazing. I’m so grateful to be born black. We age so beautifully 🙏🏾❤️
@MarjorieWong-ym3ft
@MarjorieWong-ym3ft 7 ай бұрын
Not all of us,other factors can contribute to this.
@Ferret8185
@Ferret8185 2 ай бұрын
True!
@stuffedninja1337
@stuffedninja1337 8 ай бұрын
People like Ms. Fatiman are why I wish we had time travel. I want to confirm the details!!
@TheReneex
@TheReneex 8 ай бұрын
My parents hail from Haiti and I've never heard of this woman. The origins of Haiti are quite complicated and today, the Island nation remains in economic disarray. Thank you for shedding light on this obscure woman.
@ssoomee
@ssoomee 8 ай бұрын
How could you not know about this woman if you say your parents are Haitian? How could you even call her obscure?
@TheReneex
@TheReneex 7 ай бұрын
@@ssoomee It's now fair to assume that a person's race or heritage alone should serve as a conduit for acknowledging every historical fact of a particular nation or individual. Even among my close relatives, this woman's name draws a blank. We're living in an age where technology provides us with a wealth of information about obscure individuals. There are numerous men and women who have contributed to developing monumental inventions, businesses, and the development of nations but their names remain shrouded in mystery. There are others who are almost never mentioned in history books.
@elenalatici9568
@elenalatici9568 7 ай бұрын
The irony of Haiti's present day extreme poverty and decades of political disarray is that it was the exact spot of a revolution by African slaves, who would transform the island into a wealthy kingdom nearly a century before the freeing of slaves in America. The other half of the island, Santo Domingo was poor and ruled by thieving dictators, the last of whom was Trujillo, is now a playground for the wealthy while next door Haiti suffers. I went to boarding school with Trujillo's niece. On the day that Trujillo was killed, I happened to be standing at the top of the long corridor on the first floor. Maria, Trujillo's niece, was on the telephone screaming and sobbing as she was being told that her entire family was now forced to flee. Down at the other end of the corridor in the tv room where the news of Trujillo's death was being reported, there came shouts of joy from girls who also came from Santo Domingo, but who had grown up under the thumb of a dictator they hated. All of them were my friends. It was a moment of deep strangeness and confusion for a 15 year old girl from rural Connecticut.
@TheReneex
@TheReneex 7 ай бұрын
@@ekaterinakozhevnikova8023 Exactly
@42Laj
@42Laj 7 ай бұрын
​@@ssoomee- You're right. It's definitely not obscure information. There are even schools in Haiti named after Cecile and Mackandal who were the early initiators and leaders of the Haitian Revolution. Interesting fact: After Jean-Jacques Dessalines was assainated, Cecile and some others took his mutilated body to be buried.
@lesliewarnell5172
@lesliewarnell5172 7 ай бұрын
The montage of artwork, particularly the renderings of Cecile, is impeessive. I must add her to my ever-growing list of sheroes. Thank you. 🖤
@berenicewaters4096
@berenicewaters4096 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the story of Cecil , very happy to learn about people's achievements from the past.
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 8 ай бұрын
👸🏽love all the forgotten history you bring to the channel. Tyvmuch💙
@ChildfreeMatto
@ChildfreeMatto 8 ай бұрын
Hello Forgotten Lives, feeling a little sick today with congestion and a sore throat. Your video with soothe my symptoms as I rest to get on the mend. Thank you, for the video this evening. 😊
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
Get well soon!
@ChildfreeMatto
@ChildfreeMatto 8 ай бұрын
@@ForgottenLives Thank you for the well wishes.
@JM-vj7we
@JM-vj7we 8 ай бұрын
💜
@ELKE-
@ELKE- 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your perfect work! You amazing me with yours research, they are all so wonderful! Love the background music as always
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
Thanks as always for the support!!
@ELKE-
@ELKE- 8 ай бұрын
​@@ForgottenLives My great pleasure FLives! Edit: I listened 3 times. Ads all good!
@paluzalu6868
@paluzalu6868 7 ай бұрын
And Haiti has never recovered since for every action, there’s a reaction, and when you do voodoo in order to gain possession of power, the consequences can sometime be very hard they got their power, but they was never able to establish true financial independence and progression.
@sidsiriussherrillelamb4437
@sidsiriussherrillelamb4437 8 ай бұрын
Please do a story on Haitian Rebel, François Mackandal. ☺️
@emakelley6807
@emakelley6807 7 ай бұрын
Yes this story reminds me of his
@sidsiriussherrillelamb4437
@sidsiriussherrillelamb4437 7 ай бұрын
He was a part of the planning but was omitted from this story. 🥺
@cathylopez1345
@cathylopez1345 8 ай бұрын
Great piece of history of the brave Afro-Haitian people. thank you.
@HaitianBlackGinger11
@HaitianBlackGinger11 7 ай бұрын
Early in the 19th century, Haiti helped modern-day northwest Brazil, Guyana, Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia, Panama, northern Peru, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, and Bolivia to obtain their independence.
@thedarkdivinefeminine
@thedarkdivinefeminine 7 ай бұрын
Calling her mixed race is a disgraceful attack against African women! Anything to strip our foremothers.
@queenofsheba7145
@queenofsheba7145 7 ай бұрын
Her mother was African (Ewe tribe -Benin), her father a French/Corsican.
@claragray8786
@claragray8786 7 ай бұрын
She still considered black regardless of being mixed, she certainly couldn’t identify herself as a french woman 🤷🏾‍♀️
@GabriellaGabrielle
@GabriellaGabrielle 7 ай бұрын
@@claragray8786No, her father was white so she was a métisse, mulatto not Black. Just because she could not identify as a French women that does not mean that she can identify as a Black woman either.
@MadininaCarribean
@MadininaCarribean 3 ай бұрын
​​@@claragray8786 considered black by who ? The blacks ? The whites ? The truth is that she was mixed. Black mother + white father = MIXED Period ! We don't care how society perceives you. Society has a false vision of facts like for meghan markle...she's not black ,she's mixed.
@440SPN
@440SPN 8 ай бұрын
Very good, wonderful voice and narrative! Thank you. 💕
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE 💓 when you upload videos 😍
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@beberivera7011
@beberivera7011 7 ай бұрын
Cecile's story reminds me of Mistress of Darkness by Christopher Nicole. I read it many years ago. When i was far too young but it definitely made an impression. Makes me wonder if perhaps she was a muse for Nicole's story.
@jodyharnish9104
@jodyharnish9104 8 ай бұрын
Fascinating as always, my friend! I always look forward to your new videos.
@DamnDemi
@DamnDemi 8 ай бұрын
Erzulie Dantor & Erzulie Freda are 2 different entities. There are others, but I only know of 3. I'm assuming you meant Erzulie Dantor, the mother figure, since you used her image.
@moondancer4660
@moondancer4660 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you❤
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@anniej1834
@anniej1834 8 ай бұрын
Love 💕 your voice and channel as always fantastic content thanks 4 all the hard work u put into your videos 📸
@dupraimarcel303
@dupraimarcel303 7 ай бұрын
Cecile was Queen Marie's half sister. The star flower that is on King Henry's lapel is the same one as king Vanoff. She divorced Jean Louis Perriot and he then married her younger sister and had a kid with her as well. The child she and Perriot had wrote a book detailing her history. Also King Henry was extremely popular and Haiti under his rule was the golden age of the country. Hayti at that time with a population of 240,000 people was ru her than all of France. The history leader who lie and guve false narratives about Henry are the same one who murdered Dessalines and needed up writing the history. You have to look at the relationship with The queen and Prince Paul Roman (leader of. The army and navy)who betrayed the kingdom and killed the crown prince. Also her step father funded the revolution and Henry worked for him at the hotel where he met Marie Louise then married her. The libe of the Coidavid and Henry were never slaves. They were black moors. The first Haitian flag with the head of the moor is from Cecile. There was no voodoo ceremony the correct translation of the meeting was (near the imams house) they keep saying voodoo ceremony for a few reasons but I will leave it there for now
@theultimateartist4153
@theultimateartist4153 7 ай бұрын
Your right about everything but I cant find anything about the history of the flag it keeps bringing me back to Vincent Oge who was proslavery, also while Christoph does deserve respect he actually had a dumb system that endangered his kids, there is no way a monarchy would be stable while Toussaint was a dictator his methods of choosing a successor is a much better idea than having it be be heritage
@cbrown1608
@cbrown1608 7 ай бұрын
Man tell us the story…
@roseporter1368
@roseporter1368 7 ай бұрын
How very interesting. Is there a specific book to read to get this particular information?
@theultimateartist4153
@theultimateartist4153 7 ай бұрын
@@roseporter1368 Baron de Vastey books ALL of them, he WAS actually King Henris righthand man and he wrote EVERYTHING.
@roseporter1368
@roseporter1368 7 ай бұрын
@@theultimateartist4153 thanks so much for the information. 🙂
@marcust4238
@marcust4238 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interesting bio...as always.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
So nice of you!
@noelbensted3389
@noelbensted3389 7 ай бұрын
Great video and superb pictorial research !
@deborahlinton9635
@deborahlinton9635 8 ай бұрын
Love your videos.🇨🇦
@59tante
@59tante 8 ай бұрын
Enjoyed very much
@didyallseethat499
@didyallseethat499 7 ай бұрын
Vive Marinette Bras Cheche!!!! That is the name I know Cecile as and she is considered a Petro Loa. I honestly believe the reason that Haiti suffers so much is because she has never been recognized for her part in the revolution and she is known to be an angry loa that operates with fire. So if you ever want to invoke her, speak with her allow her to ride you make sure you do it outside away from any structures.
@nataliep501
@nataliep501 8 ай бұрын
I love your channel
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@juanitamachain4726
@juanitamachain4726 7 ай бұрын
She lived to be 112 😮! I know she’d be heartbroken to see where they’re at now.
@reneedennis2011
@reneedennis2011 7 ай бұрын
I never heard of this lady. Thank you for this video.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 7 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@aliasfakename3159
@aliasfakename3159 7 ай бұрын
Cecile had a cameo in Castlevania: Nocturne
@yvesmoreau1931
@yvesmoreau1931 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for remembering us!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 7 ай бұрын
Of course!
@yvesmoreau1931
@yvesmoreau1931 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for responding! I'm currently working on the Second Edition of my book: AFRO-CHRISTIANO-HAITINO-VOODOO. The video on Voodoo helped me attend an almost-total state of euphoria.@@ForgottenLives
@andycortes9617
@andycortes9617 8 ай бұрын
Perfect video for black history month!
@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470
@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 8 ай бұрын
It's not black history month.🙄
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 8 ай бұрын
​@@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 I'm pretty sure it is Europe 🤔
@machkenzie6366
@machkenzie6366 7 ай бұрын
Love 💕 Heritage and cultural pride 🇭🇹
@buttersmoothe2002
@buttersmoothe2002 7 ай бұрын
They told them people to get TF off the land and they didn't take heed, oh well!
@ahnraemenkhera7451
@ahnraemenkhera7451 7 ай бұрын
With all the profits gleaned from this island as a colony, one would expect there to be fairly well-documented records of all its government heads & officials, before & after it gained independence. For such a prominent figure as Cécile Fatiman is reported in the vlog to have been during the revolutionary era to disappear into obscurity, there had to have been a reason this occurred. Ha’iti holds great fascination in the imaginations of people all over the world. Yet its own relegation to “obscurity” once it inspired revolts among enslaved people, worldwide, continues to this day. So long as it does, Systemic Injustice supersedes all other international “ties” between democracies; & a real “revolution” producing Justice has never occurred. The systemics of Injustice should be abolished so that people can begin to learn who individuals truly are/were, rather than relying on superstition & fabled lore to tell their stories in connection to contemporary cultures, both there and here. But this narrative was intelligently done, & beautifully read, as always. I expect nothing less from Forgotten Lives-& I’m never disappointed. I do wonder what “a creole pig” is, however, & I’m very sad one was slaughtered for a ceremony, when burning the cane would’ve been a more fitting tribute to oppression. ♥️🌼🍁🍂🕯♥️🌼🍁🍂🕯🪷✌🏽
@dgonthehill
@dgonthehill 8 ай бұрын
ty
@principalitycidade4323
@principalitycidade4323 7 ай бұрын
Its also worth noting that in 1822 Jean Boyer was invited by Jose Nunez De Caceres and when Boyer came he planted a small tree which symbolize the end of slavery. Jean Boyer saw black people in chains in Santo Domingo
@maroonrebel
@maroonrebel 7 ай бұрын
Jah & Jahes love. Thank you for this wonderful video. I cannot wait to read a long book about our shera and leader in #1791, Cecile Fatima. Can you please do a video about Marie Jann Lamartiniere? Blessed love. #1804 #Ayiti #ToutMounseMoun #AbolishCPS #AbolishPoverty #DefundFosterCare #ProChoice #RawVeganforLife #HR40NOW
@kaarlimakela3413
@kaarlimakela3413 7 ай бұрын
It's a solid spell of concealment. 🧙‍♀️
@doneecemcneil7826
@doneecemcneil7826 7 ай бұрын
Gm edagdwg God blessed these people that still live a life of hate sad life is soooooo real pay attention to people you don't know I am blessed to feel people linda j. Peace
@omgkthxbi
@omgkthxbi 7 ай бұрын
I love this channel because it has introduced me to so many badass women
@zynacrawford9060
@zynacrawford9060 8 ай бұрын
the Haitians were ALWAYS FULL Melanated people the indigenous were ALWAYS of dark skin!
@gingerkid1048
@gingerkid1048 7 ай бұрын
Except for those melanated women raped by white men & forced to bear their spawn.
@Studioladya
@Studioladya 7 ай бұрын
The month of august has been the most dramatic month of the year in historical records
@emeralddream4428
@emeralddream4428 7 ай бұрын
Summer was hype AF with Natalie with her, better be glad C trying to get her life and herself together!
@Thicasssvegan
@Thicasssvegan 7 ай бұрын
What an amazing woman 🫶🏾
@sassyg9133
@sassyg9133 6 ай бұрын
Her half-sister was Queen Marie Louise of Haytie
@ChannelH.Dunbar-lw7qg
@ChannelH.Dunbar-lw7qg 7 ай бұрын
Wow
@philliplyn2692
@philliplyn2692 3 ай бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@WAHYAH
@WAHYAH 7 ай бұрын
ABBA YAH
@cdfriend007
@cdfriend007 7 ай бұрын
Can you go over indigenous peoples of central and South America please :) I’m Guatemalan and rarely get to hear stories of the my people of the past. Thank you :)
@ladyhonor822
@ladyhonor822 8 ай бұрын
AMEN AMEN🫀☦️⚕️
@SewardWriter
@SewardWriter 8 ай бұрын
That painting of Louverteur has a distinct resemblance to Snoop Dogg. Another portrait of him doesn't.
@HaitianBokorLeonardElmera363
@HaitianBokorLeonardElmera363 8 ай бұрын
Man this is very romanticized LOL the reality was much harsher 🤣
@user-lp7xv7sn2u
@user-lp7xv7sn2u 7 ай бұрын
Where can i learn more about this?
@IngridAsInBergman
@IngridAsInBergman 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. They never speak on the fact that mixed race children were all created by grape. 🌾 people love to believe black women had love relationships (all with gross power dynamics and manipulation) that they willfully participated in. It’s gross. I hate it.
@marilainedictan4851
@marilainedictan4851 7 ай бұрын
​@@IngridAsInBergmanummm no that isn't true, the French colonial empire slavery was MUCH different than that of the American/English slave trade, there was a system know as the placage which was popular throughout the entire empire from Saint Louis in senegal to New Orleans and haiti, though it originated in haiti. Frenchmen pursued CONSENSUAL relationships with mixed/fully black women
@HaitianBlackGinger11
@HaitianBlackGinger11 7 ай бұрын
Largely through the efforts of one man: Toussaint L'Ouverture. No longer a slave himself, Toussaint nonetheless trained and led the half million African slaves of Haiti to victory after victory, over England and France, for more than a decade. In the process, he kept America free from European domination.
@gdisprint2928
@gdisprint2928 7 ай бұрын
You took the pic from Instagram
@blackpantherbeauty2427
@blackpantherbeauty2427 7 ай бұрын
PAYBACK❤❤❤
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 7 ай бұрын
Largest Caribbean history world history sir
@MrSpoonierSpartan
@MrSpoonierSpartan 8 ай бұрын
First
@aliceballah3108
@aliceballah3108 7 ай бұрын
The Surname sounds West African for sure
@mafounebenjamin8116
@mafounebenjamin8116 7 ай бұрын
1. Do not use the word Massacre when victims are fighting back. 2. Haiti fought 3 super powers ( french, spain - Britain) & this is why Haiti is still being oppressed 3. To Haitians who are Christians, do y'all notice our ancestors did not call on Christian Gods to be liberated? Let that sink in.
@michellebraggs4858
@michellebraggs4858 7 ай бұрын
🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹
@zynacrawford9060
@zynacrawford9060 8 ай бұрын
The Romans and such...non-melanated people and less melanated people came way later. Like all the ends of this earth. If we keep it true!
@brookie.bobaxx.2746
@brookie.bobaxx.2746 7 ай бұрын
Idk but the green eyed female on the thumbnail resembles Lil Durks wife 👀
@marilainedictan4851
@marilainedictan4851 7 ай бұрын
And dont reffer to haiti as Hispaniola, reffer to it as saint Domingue
@marilainedictan4851
@marilainedictan4851 7 ай бұрын
Ummm no cecile was DEFINITELY mixed race, all accounts confirm this. Her father according to french records was the prince pf corsicas
@Sayiwnt
@Sayiwnt 8 ай бұрын
Y u talk so slow 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@roseporter1368
@roseporter1368 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s because he has an accent and wants to make sure he is understood. I personally appreciate him doing so. 🙂
@Voodoo6592
@Voodoo6592 7 ай бұрын
Oh i heard of the great Mambo
@CuteassVee
@CuteassVee 7 ай бұрын
Why does everyone else tell black people stories???
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