Humans have existed for hundreds of thousands of years. Written history may tell you otherwise, but like science, we are making more and more progress understanding our past. Ancient people were very intelligent individuals and even created their own technology to build amazing things.
@AN4RCHID Жыл бұрын
You skipped the most interesting part! The DNA of the first skeletal remains (LM1) were analyzed and matched known aboriginal populations and dated to a few thousand years ago. DNA analysis of the second skeleton (LM3) found that the DNA did not match that of known aboriginals from Australia. Furthermore, the mtDNA was older than "Mitochondrial Eve" from whom all living humans share a maternal lineage. This suggests the remains could have belonged to an entirely separate branch of the human race. Besides being a bombshell discovery for the peopling of Australia, the DNA analysis calls into question the traditional model of a single Out of Africa migration and suggests multiple waves of migration into Australia. Another group of researchers asserted that the remains could have been contaminated (by what? a 40k year old vampire on the excavation crew?), but besides not making any sense, no evidence of contamination was found. The remains were then returned to be re-buried, making sure no one else will ever be able to examine them again with more advanced DNA analysis. But ONLY the LM3 skeleton was re-buried, not the aboriginal remains LM1. Really gets the noggin joggin.
@MM-mk7gl Жыл бұрын
I believe the remains were re-buried because it was proof that modern day Indigenous Australians weren't Australias original inhabitants. Can you imagine the uproar in Australia if this was true?
@Yeah--mn9qk Жыл бұрын
@@MM-mk7gl Do you not know that their could be hundreds of other skeletons in australia that are older than the one thats supposedly not aboriginal ? So its not really proof
@Yeah--mn9qk Жыл бұрын
@@MM-mk7gl they could find another skeleton thats far older than this one by tommorow or whenever and it could probably be aboriginal, so shouldn't base anything over this finding, im sure there's more older skeletons out here than this one
@kfg7248 Жыл бұрын
@@Yeah--mn9qk what a joke. Mungo Man (WLH3) sample contained no Aboriginal Australian DNA and is solid scientific evdience that there were civilised communities tens of thosuands of years before Aboriginines claim to have lived in Australia. The only reason he was reburied was to hide the fact history got it wrong and ultimately Aborigines never were and never will be our "First Nations".
@kfg7248 Жыл бұрын
@AN4aARCHID IKR, so suprisinlgy convinient so they can continue to mislable a minority as "First Nations" and provide them a lifetimes worth of reparations.
@MikeHunt-c5p4 ай бұрын
Years later, his progeny Mungo Jerry would record In The Summertime
@shamiemcguire1588Ай бұрын
😂😂😂, very funny.
@shamiemcguire1588Ай бұрын
😂😂😂, Very funny...
@MelissaThompson432Ай бұрын
Have you ever looked at Ray Dorset? He's British but he has a very aboriginal look about him....
@BillRen-nl5mx29 күн бұрын
hahahaa
@allisonshaw93412 жыл бұрын
The term "mindless savages" is truly insulting because no species of hominid has ever been "mindless" - our earliest ancestors have showed that they thought, crafted, and created things to improve their survival and quality of life. As for "savages"... well, look at how people treat each other and we are all still savages and maybe even more so because we should certainly know better and therefore have no excuses for our inhumanity to one another.
@jeffreyoneill64392 жыл бұрын
I agree with you fully. The instant I heard that I was incredibly angered. How could any human be shrugged off in that way.
@bobmathieson9872 жыл бұрын
I sort of agree Allison, in that this narrative is insulting. However in my opinion the human species has largely become more savage and somewhat mindless as it has advanced and become more egocentric and disconnected from our once connected and interdependent relationship within the natural world and with each other. Not everyone though, but most, unfortunately.
@russellpearson19092 жыл бұрын
very enlightened thinking, when yu are the inferior race, but have superior tech like cannons and guns against bow and arrows and spears, it is very easy to userp public perceptions to believe they are the superior race.
@johnring12432 жыл бұрын
"One of the many humorous things in this world is the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages " , and i readily apply the same comparison concerning humans, and other species
@sgtcrab25692 жыл бұрын
Mindless savages run the US govt!
@leighchristopherson24552 жыл бұрын
Ochre is used until today as sunscreen, and some researchers are saying that it may not have been sprinkled on the bodies in graves, but that the individuals may have been wearing it.
@alexislaisney3404 Жыл бұрын
So it can be used to hide from thermal imaging. Sweet
@James-kv6kb Жыл бұрын
There were no such thing as graves in central Australia they put them in trees to stop The dingoes eating them
@donaldmac12502 жыл бұрын
theres much more to the mungo dig story but it has become a politically an culturally sensitive topic because it implys a number of racially different humans have occupied that region.
@russellpearson19092 жыл бұрын
yu are on to it, gracile and robust skeletons sure do raise a lot of questions, than answers questions. There is much yet to unravel. Out of africa is dead in the water. Out of australia is where the evidence really leads us.
@donaldmac12502 жыл бұрын
@@russellpearson1909 very possible that the more digging we do we'll be reevaluating many theorys about the history of the human race. ..a man from sri lanka informs me that many indigenous place names are easlily translated into his language and claims that there was two waves of sub continental indians...the first approximately 40 thousand years ago and the second about four thousand years ago....i believe from my own analysis that they worshipped the god indra and built large temples from mud brick. ..there is a suburb in brisbane queensland named indropilly.
@russellpearson19092 жыл бұрын
@@donaldmac1250 indeed yu are correct, theory is often educated guess work and quite often winds up being disproved, but the theory lingers on. I have read about the Sir Lankan connection and while i dont put their arrival here at the same time frame as he does. Next thing they will be claiming land rights. lol Ernie dingo tested positive to Sir Lankan dna, but there was no mention how far back it went. Its a bit puzzlling actually as he comes from the far west and they came in via the north, north west. I have never really looked into that side of migration to our shores
@donaldmac12502 жыл бұрын
@@russellpearson1909 i think that in the west there was trade with india and egypt for perhaps 4000 years.
@panzermacher2 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, the real reason the Abbos wanted the remains returned was to stop any further mtDNA research which would indicate that Abbos are NOT "First Nation peoples" and are in fact late arrival interlopers & have no more claim to Australia than do Europeans.
@mrgeno46822 жыл бұрын
Surviving there among all that mega fauna is mind blowing.
@fredgillespie58552 жыл бұрын
And that is another interesting story interesting story, mega fauna found on every continent then suddenly gone.
@Antechynus Жыл бұрын
And by changing the environment and predation, they drove them to extinction.
@technicianbis5250-ig1zdАй бұрын
You know what's really interesting is that the climate in that area hadn't changed in 42,000 years.
@bertsrig61532 жыл бұрын
From what I remember of that discovery was they were found to be a different race to today’s indigenous Australians and that finding didn’t go down too well.
@okusfayreno85992 жыл бұрын
Why are people saying that when it's clearly a lie
@leeroberts9091 Жыл бұрын
@@okusfayreno8599 No, its not.
@beachbum4335 ай бұрын
Where is your proof that @bertsirg153 is lying? @@okusfayreno8599
@katherineholten88784 ай бұрын
And that is a lie
@beachbum4334 ай бұрын
That's a bit harsh, in light of evidence presented on an ABC website. Please supply proof of your allegation, and leave any racism out of it...@@katherineholten8878
@chrisk2832 жыл бұрын
What evidence is there that the current native residents of the area have any connection at all with Mungo man? If the ancient residents had a culture based on harvesting fish and shellfish they would have probably moved on long before the lake finally dried up thousands of years ago.
@andrewenoch2561 Жыл бұрын
Because of DNA and the lake is within their tribal lands when the lake started to dry up they simply move to more productive part of their tribal lands
@elsiecater1563 ай бұрын
To get fish and shellfish from Lakes Mongo it would have been after the land upheaval where this sea was as has been known by other scientific study. People who came to Australia before complete break from Asian connection would have integrated with other tribes to maintain viability due to deaths of all sorts this mingling other DNA, there were over 100 tribal groups wandering around and not a lot of interchange of coupling due to tribal custom's. I think it will be a long time before it will be accepted that like us they came from elsewhere and were diverse in their origins as we are today.
@technicianbis5250-ig1zdАй бұрын
@@andrewenoch2561 But due to tribal wars, their boundaries would shift.
@paulcarter74452 жыл бұрын
"found ... stone tools ... some dating as far back as the last ice-age". That's strange: that's only 11,000 years ago, not 42,000
@macraghnaill35532 жыл бұрын
This interglacial started 11000 years ago when the previous glacial period ended
@paulcarter74452 жыл бұрын
@@macraghnaill3553 That is correct, and that glacial period started around 100,000 years ago, so the statement "dating as far back as the last ice-age" is pretty meaningless.
@russellpearson19092 жыл бұрын
there were many glacial and interglacial periods in aust over the last couple of hundred thousand years, of which i beleive there were populations of maybe different human types like denisovan, erectus and little people at the same time. an eructus skull found on the darling river in 1902 was dated at 30,000 years bp
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
@@russellpearson1909 where can I get some info on this ?
@russellpearson19092 жыл бұрын
@@warwicklewis8735 try doing some deep research lewis, just like i have and do. But i have one big advantage over yu mate, Im not ignorant or predjudiced, and i am a very critical logical thinker. Which means i have a prior body of knowledge and can sniff out the horseshit real easy.
@kevinwaters5872Ай бұрын
I made a similar discovery at Waverley Cemetry. I only needed to dig six feet down. The samples seemed to live in rectangular wooden boxes.
@johnsinger608 Жыл бұрын
Why did you ignore the huge contribution of Alan Thorne who assembled the bones and arranged the carbon dating?
@buildersofarchitecture42 Жыл бұрын
Lots of important people not mentioned. Wilfred Shawcross for example.
@gonzo13549 ай бұрын
Have to edit some stuff out.... or do a 2hr doco... and still miss stuff. Thanks for adding more info for me to check out.
@joshgill39962 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention they had totally different DNA to modern aboriginals and all research into the skeletons have stopped since that was discovered.
@tuathadesidhe15302 жыл бұрын
Yes the same ones that hide the fact that the real first people's of Australia were a dark skinned pygmy race that were predated on by the current aboriginal peoples.
@mombaassa2 жыл бұрын
My understanding of the most recent DNA findings, is different. The remains, are indeed Aboriginal. They also show however, that this man was not an ancestor of the indigenous people, currently living in the area.
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
@@mombaassa where are you getting this information?? I thought they refused DNA testing of the skeletons and insisted on reburial
@mombaassa2 жыл бұрын
@@warwicklewis8735 Just google "mungo man dna findings". You'll find plenty of reports. There were 2 DNA studies: one in 2001, and another in 2016. So, it's not new information, at all.
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
@@mombaassa obviously you did not read past the click bait headlines of those "reports". The study in 2001 declared that the DNA was not related to modern aboriginals (note that it was not European DNA either). The second study in 2016 retested the same sample (not a new one) and found that it was contaminated by at least 5 Europeans. Making the test results from the original study invalid due to contamination. These findings prove that the scientists were either monumentally incompetent or delibrately sabotaging the results. It also brings into question why the original 2001 study didn't report finding European DNA. And if not European then has the contamination occurred at a later time. And why is a new sample (taken by a competent scientist) not being made available. In order to further spread misinformation the "reports" then go on to mention that samples taken from other skeletal remains from the area are related to local indigenous people. Then quickly pass over the inconvenient fact that those samples are dated to much more recent times. A more accurate headline would read. "INCOMPETENT SCIENTISTS ENABLE INDIGENOUS PROPAGANDA TO FLORISH" But that would only happen in a world that had honest journalists who were not pursuing a political agenda.
@theeddorian2 жыл бұрын
No human is a "mindless savage." Like other similar YT bits, the images are largely irrelevant, such as a an image of "archaeologists" from 1968 holding old, rusted tools (not archaeological either) and a smartphone (didn't exist in the twentieth century), and no sort of cell phone existed in the 1960s.
@ianwilkinson46022 жыл бұрын
Yes, context and realism are important, this is no more than a vague sketch of events and nothing more.
@mawi11722 жыл бұрын
Why pick it apart? I liked it. Where's your story of it? 😵🙄🙄
@Larrywhite002 жыл бұрын
No human is a mindless savage? You must not be aware of the African descendants living in the usa, especially in cities like Chicago and New Orleans
@theeddorian2 жыл бұрын
@@Larrywhite00 And that places you on the evolutionary tree, right near the roots it sounds like.
@Larrywhite002 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahhahaa
@virginiamoss70452 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone assume "mindless brute" about any skeletal remains of any animal. Most animals are not "brutes" and are certainly not "mindless".
@jasonmckay87939 ай бұрын
History is the best example of we are probably wrg about nearly everything history is nearly always because it doesn't have enough information just like human beings.
@lovesees43202 жыл бұрын
Thank You Most inlightening 🕊️ 🌎❤️
@redhammer9910 Жыл бұрын
That was ok. Mungo lady was particularly interesting because in later more advanced testing by French scientists and Australian geneticists it was concluded that Mungo lady was of two human species, part Aborigine and part of unknown origin. There are a number of trains of thought, some believing the Aboriginie's were always here but their DNA proves otherwise. Some say there was no one here when the Aboriginie's first arrived in a location known as the East Kimberley, it cannot be proved or disproved. But the history of a culture can be expressed in many ways particularly through art. The Aboriginie's were prolific in their cave art and reportedly recent cave art in the West NT is believed to be 27,000 years old. That is 11,000 years older than the Gwion Gwion rock art on the Mitchell Plateau. What makes the Gwion cave art interesting is that does not have the features of Aboriginal cave art. It in fact matches cave art from from both African and Indian cave art content and styles. For the time period the Gwion Gwion's in character and style including content are more advanced, how and why did the style disappear? The two issues, was Australia already occupied by an existing hominid species that potentially interbred with the Aboriginie's or they were wiped out, both in light of Mungo lady's genetics and the Gwion may not seem so far fetched. I think we are going to go down the path of truth telling perhaps more excavation of the Mungo site will be a good start.
@lisilucyinski9455 Жыл бұрын
Can't agree more.
@russpearson98025 ай бұрын
I say erectus. Look at the cranium of mm, and ml, also cow swamp, pintubi and a few others. Very archaic lookin crapnium for modern morphology
@thebuilder20185 ай бұрын
mate in darwin there was cave i used to go to with my friends as kids and teenagers that had no aboriginal artwork in the 70-80s then in the 2000s either 2001 or 2002 i took my kids there and it was still an empty cave then the same cave was reported on the news having aboriginal artwork in it around 2014 or 2015 with aboriginal artwork dating back 17,000 years old!!!! NONE OF THAT WAS THERE DURING THE FIRST TIME I SEEN THE CAVE IN THE 70s TO THE LAST TIME I WENT THERE IN THE EARLY 2000s!!!!!! AND IT WAS THE DOTTED ABORIGINAL ARTWORK THAT WAS ONLY INTRODUCED TO THEM RECENTLY WHILE I WAS YOUNG MAN !!!!!
@senkuu_ishigamii5 ай бұрын
No they have Denisovan DNA but it’s not much it’s like 5% and they likely met the Denisovans before going into Australia
@monstagez2532 Жыл бұрын
These people are Aboriginal Australian, not Europeans ? I got confused ??? Lake mungo is a beautiful place, the Inland sea , and so are the Aboriginal people of Australia
@kinchegayowie616710 ай бұрын
The last migration was 6,500 years ago from Southern India , the same timer the dingo arrived , Ernie Dingo from WA is of Southern Indian decent
@Tamaresque5 ай бұрын
Oh dear!
@kinchegayowie61675 ай бұрын
@@Tamaresque why dear?
@technicianbis5250-ig1zdАй бұрын
That's what I think also, that today's Aboriginals are descended from Indians.
@johnadey94644 ай бұрын
Interestingly in Britain we found a forty thousand year old burial also buried covered in red ochre, ( The Red Lady Of Paviland) this suggests a cultural connection. this date coincides with the hight of the last ice age when the sea was at it's lowest.
@Gizathecat22 жыл бұрын
How old do ancient remains have to be to considered members of a contemporary community? It seems a shame that remains that could have shed so much light on the populating of a location were taken away by others who may not be genetically related to the ancient remains. There should be a cutoff age for determining if human remains are indeed connected to a living population. Kennewick Man was proven to be genetically related to several tribes in Washington and Oregon and given to them. Kennewick Man was only about 9,000 years old.
@thomaszaccone39602 жыл бұрын
BINGO. ITS INSANITY. These remains belong to humanity not some tribe. Also, why is it surprising human beings acted like human beings? They were Homo sapiens.
@thomaszaccone39602 жыл бұрын
Kennewick man was also idiocy. The Clintoon Administration started this ridiculous nonesense. Think about it. If this is correct thinking, every human remains from Egypt to Iceland, from Siberia to South America, would be re-interred. Nobody wantscdomebody's grandfatherdug up.. But NINE THOUSAND YEARS? POLITICAL GENERATED NONSENSE.
@MelaniaRose2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaszaccone3960 Mungo man belongs in Australia and not overseas in some museum. It’s bad enough that a lot of history is stolen from Australia as it is.
@MelaniaRose2 жыл бұрын
How would you determine a “cut off age” ? There’s alot of research and anthropology involved to determine that. Culturally it’s a significance to people of the area it was founded. There’s no rule to say you have to be related to ancient remains either for it to be important to history.
@thomaszaccone39602 жыл бұрын
@@MelaniaRose It's a good question. Like I said nobody wants to see an identifiable person connected with a currently live family dug up. Somebody who kicked off over 400 years ago - before recorded history - should be a subject for stidy.
@larrykennedy88672 жыл бұрын
People seem to make things up to be upset about, I've never felt the slightest temptation to interfere with science because someone happens to be a possible ancestor
@michaelpacnw24192 жыл бұрын
Well, your territorial claims probably wouldn't look ridiculous if people found out you kicked another race off of a continent. So you have less motivation to stop all scientific investigation in to your "ancestors". Problem is these skeletons are not at all related to the aboriginals living there now. We can't have people finding that out..
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
The problem is they fear it is not an ancestor. This would interfer with the claim that aboriginals were the first inhabitants of Australia. It would also discredit the dating of early occupation sites as proof of aboriginal habitation.
@JohnJ4692 жыл бұрын
@@warwicklewis8735 Even worse, some of the papers regarding Mungo Man identify him as having some Caucasian characteristics. This would be something that must not be spoken about.
@okusfayreno85992 жыл бұрын
@@warwicklewis8735 stupid comment many aboriginal people are made of many different nations just like Europe is now however there all aboriginal
@samuelwason64092 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJ469 it's a indigenous man not Caucasian hell fuckn no aboriginal Australian are the oldest in the world...
@charlenequinilty72522 жыл бұрын
Red ochre powder may have been something that was carried with the people for their use and not just gotten when mungo man died. There were to many irreverent pictures.
@dunruden97202 жыл бұрын
to many irreverent pictures. Let me guess: too many irrelevant pictures?
@leeroberts9091 Жыл бұрын
Mungo man predated modern aboriginal people.
@petethundabox50674 ай бұрын
Wrong. Those 2001 tests were found to have been contaminated. DNA testing has progressed a long way since those early days. Check the 2016 test results.
@gibsonethirty28364 ай бұрын
correct and they committed genocide when they invaded ....... and they have the gall to call us invaders. oh and btw, there has never been nor ever will be such a thing as "first nation". They where a bunch of tribal family based groups that constantly tried to kill other tribal family based groups. So much for a nation, there was no national identity until modern times, sorry but you missed the boat.
@DamienMarlowe3 ай бұрын
Mungo is aboriginal
@bartsanders15533 ай бұрын
What if somebody unearthed you relative?
@DamienMarlowe3 ай бұрын
@bartsanders1553 what the fuk does that mean
@jaxtelford8072 жыл бұрын
For those watching this... Australia does not have Deer or wolf, so the pictures are wrong. The ocean and desert pictured is not accurate, and the palm trees in the distance is also wrong. The first missionaries brought palm trees.
@tawnydi2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. Stock photos from places, even continents, totally unrelated to Australia, let alone Lake Mungo. Very disappointed as the narrator sounded Australian, and should have invested more in locational accuracy. Lazy!
@donaldmac12502 жыл бұрын
we have an ancient palm in a desert situation named valley of the palms.
@beachbum4337 ай бұрын
The coconut palms along the North coasts of Australia predate the missionaries by thousands of years....
@verafleck2 жыл бұрын
In our time, right now, there are humans living in different "states" of civilisations. Maybe this was "Sentinel Island" of it's time.
@felixcat93182 жыл бұрын
This was interesting, informative and fascinating, in addition to being well presented and narrated. Subscribed.
@HistorySkills2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@thebuilder20185 ай бұрын
this is fkn stupid bias reporting! he made no mention about the remains not being of aboriginal dna and have samples of an unknown dna not recorded in human history !!!!
@jakobraahauge72993 ай бұрын
I absolutely loath how it starts with those absolute, "never has anything this rare, this isolated, this ancient" wtf do you mean by that?!
@zwastiunburzy36882 жыл бұрын
Mungo Jerry had some cool songs.
@jamesrussell77602 жыл бұрын
The mystery of when humans first populated Australia may be related to changes in sea level caused by glaciation in the northern hemisphere. Thus, during the last glacial period, the Wisconsinan, sea level was at least 80 meters below current levels as far back as 70 thousand years ago, meaning that land bridges could have existed between the islands of Indonesia and Australia. During the previous glacial period, the Illinoian, sea levels were around 120 meters below current levels 140 to 160 thousand years ago.
@James-kv6kb Жыл бұрын
Why do we assume that Africa is the only place that human beings could come from? There is plenty of genetic evidence to prove that human beings started in a lot of different places
@jamesrussell7760 Жыл бұрын
@@James-kv6kb I think it is more accurate to say that human evolution in the distant past took place on virtually every continent on Earth except probably N & S America with the hominin precursor to the genus Homo arising in Africa. Indeed, evolution of us, Homo sapiens, has not stopped. However, we should bear in mind that the story of human evolution is based on snapshots in time - a relatively few skeletal remains separated by millennia. But, as you say, genetic evidence is very useful, particularly to document hybridization.
@AbijotSekhon-h8t Жыл бұрын
@@James-kv6kbwe don’t assume, we know through hard evidence.
@HWW147 Жыл бұрын
We didn't have a great Barrier Reef up until 20.000 years ago or a Sydney Harbour When the great ice Shelf in the northern hemisphere started melting some were between 40/20 thousand years rasing the seas a Hundred Metre And Tasmania was still connected to Australia but a lake was the seperating During the W11 DIVER were send into the English channel to see where the ancient Peat Bogs were so as the landing craft different get bogged for the Attack on Dunkirk .
@HWW147 Жыл бұрын
@@James-kv6kbdeffently Nearndertholds from the north They have found boans dating back 600.000 thousand years just not so long ago so inter breading .
@narellefriar25882 жыл бұрын
The remains were not returned in 2015. Debate still exists in 2022.
@thebuilder20185 ай бұрын
they were returned the aboriginals knew that had to bury that shit as soon as possible or lose all their land rights and money
@technicianbis5250-ig1zdАй бұрын
@@thebuilder2018 😆😆😂😂😂 You're so right there.
@keithgoodrick-meech3921 Жыл бұрын
The true history of mankind on earth is and will probably never be fully understood.
@BillRen-nl5mx29 күн бұрын
Especially as the current trend is to build entirely and purposefully false narratives about "1st Nations people" intimating ONLY Aborigines when thee were a variety at least 3 types of people 2 at least predating what we now call Aboriginals. If they spoke the truth the whole native title nonsense would be decimated as it is NOT relevant to Aboriginals . Lies upon lies upon lies all tangled and meaningless
@pmajudge2 жыл бұрын
MOST INTERESTING INDEED !!!! SURELY HUMANS HAVE TRAVELLED ALL AAROUND THE WORLD . THANKS ! FROM U.K. (2022).
@hahaha9076Ай бұрын
A great presentation, of a subject worth noting. Life on a lake that sustained them with food 40,000 years ago. Who knows how vegitated is was then. Far from savage. I'm sure they never shook a baby to death. How civil are we?
@anthonyburke56565 ай бұрын
The 1st error “continuous”, no evidence of continuity.
@SG-js2qn2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me this is how they found Mungo Jerry ...
@jaysilverheals44452 жыл бұрын
mungo man was reverred with good burial but mungo lady was likely not liked and possibly even killed and cremated. she could have been a prisoner but she was burned up for a reason maybe to not come back to harm them after death.
@flyingcrocodile46305 ай бұрын
Denisovans
@jonimaricruz16922 жыл бұрын
I hate comments like “mindless cave dweller”, how ignorant and arrogant. These were the bones of Homo sapiens, same as us, they were just as intelligent and capable as any modern human being, their technology allowed them to survive and even thrive in their surrounding. Pointless and foolish to use such terms when describing them.
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
Do you prefer the expression "noble savage".
@jonimaricruz16922 жыл бұрын
@@warwicklewis8735 Rousseau’s coinage? No thanks.
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
@@jonimaricruz1692 not Rousseau's coins. The new global currency of black victimhood is what you are buying into.
@jonimaricruz16922 жыл бұрын
@@warwicklewis8735 LMAO! I think you’re in the wrong discussion, that’s not even the topic. Go find another sandbox.
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
@@jonimaricruz1692 aaww did someone muffle your self congratulatory virtue signalling echo chamber ??? The topic you initiated was the typical "noble savage" dogma currently echoing around in the chamber of woke ideologues. My comment is an opposing view but most definitely on point of topic. Claiming that the most primitive society on earth has intelligence and capabilities equivalent to modern society. That a paleolithic people had technolgy. And that merely surviving is a cultural achievement. Is undoubtedly a trope on the Rousseauian clique.
@messageinabottle89782 жыл бұрын
This red ocre was apparently popular. There was an incident in Maine, US where a red substance that looked like blood came up from the ground and caused a dig. The remains of the "Red Paint People" were thusly discovered. Not only was red ocre used as a paint for objects apparently people painted themselves with it and it might have been a poison that the Red ocre people dumped into the sites of the ones who died there. Possibly to indicate that the paint would cause dangerous iron levels. Regardless of the reason why it was in their sites apparently they had quite a bit of it as it was enough to make a giant fake blood pool that caused an alarm from the locals. I haven't heard anything about a storage Depot of it or a trail that it would have been imported from however it is known that the Picts of the north were known to be painted blue. This is likely from ingesting silver if they weren't painted blue and finally there is a reaction with copper that will turn skin green. Also arsonic will cause green skin. The paint in red ocre could be used as a protection from UV radiation. I suspect that they were using the body paint, that folks who used it might have become toxic, and that at this Maine site that the unit decided to abandon it. In addition to body paint and cave wall painting it's use in fabric and leather would have produced a nice camouflage for hunting.
@roostersbays952 жыл бұрын
interesting
@lindagusch26712 жыл бұрын
Arsenic not arsonic
@messageinabottle89782 жыл бұрын
@@lindagusch2671 🤣 are you quite sure it's not arsnic 🤣
@ianasaur1112 жыл бұрын
thank uuu i needed this for my hass essay lol
@HistorySkills2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Good luck with the essay!
@ianasaur1112 жыл бұрын
Thank uu
@andrewlankford96342 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mungo Jerry.
@rayjohnsonjohnson4458 Жыл бұрын
The Aboriginies first arrived in possibly in the Kimberly area. How long would it have taken to spread from there to Lake Mungo?
@JJNoire2 жыл бұрын
As the indigenous have been saying all along- ‘“we have been here so much longer”
@jcoker4232 жыл бұрын
And never invented the wheel
@JJNoire2 жыл бұрын
@@jcoker423 Guess they did not need to. Perhaps we should consider that those who can live with what they can carry on their backs are the ones who have a shot at surviving the climate disaster.
@jcoker4232 жыл бұрын
@@JJNoire climate disaster ? That's a new one. I thought it was climate crisis, climate catastrophe, climate change. If you have ever been to a remote community you'll realise the only thing today's Ab's can carry is tinned food, alcohol and bags of chips. But I doubt you ever have been 100km outside of a city
@JJNoire2 жыл бұрын
@@jcoker423 Why would you say that? Foolish assumption. I was tossing bails of hay while still a kidlet and mucking stalls. I work outdoors for my $ job and I can tell you the weather and climate are changing severely and shifting plant & animal behaviors. This is effecting all of us, regardless of political stripe. All I was saying in my original comment is that much of what is being "discovered" (by white folks) has been known to indigenous peoples and their lore for centuries.
@jcoker4232 жыл бұрын
@@JJNoire What is being discovered by white folks has been known by indigenous.... OK, gravity, organ transplants, you're talking such a load of nonsense. The indigenous people all over the world lived in a precarious balance with nature. But like the megafauna (which the ab's pushed into extinction) every time humans arrive somewhere or develop new technology we change the environment. What is different now (because of the European Enlightenment - scientific method) we can measure it and then make predictions. But that also means we have to continually question our assumptions as well as experts. I see you blindly believe experts (covid/climate etc). I have a bridge in Sydney I can sell you.
@weethree20704 ай бұрын
I can't BELIEVE that a documentary like this, posted 2 years ago, would use words like "mindless savages" and "mindless brutes" about humann ancestors living 42000 years ago! I find this outrageous.
@diakritika2 жыл бұрын
Neanderthals used red ochre if I am not mistaken, so it was probably deeply engrained in tradition.
@fishinwidow352 жыл бұрын
Red Paint Native Americans also used red ochre.
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
Modern aboriginals have no Neanderthal DNA. Humans are attracted to bright colours. It seems a common attraction to body paint is ubiquitous to humanity.
@jcoker4232 жыл бұрын
@@warwicklewis8735 All non African humans have Neanderthal dna. Are you saying Ab's are not human ?
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
@@jcoker423 the smallest percentage of Neanderthal DNA in any modern population and the highest percentage of Denisovian. A chihuahua and a great dane are both dogs but they are very different breeds.
@bernardpare25092 жыл бұрын
Merci !
@parrotraiser65414 ай бұрын
Mungo Man and Mungo Lady; the parents of Mungo Jerry?
@sharonzhang870 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@HistorySkills Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your generosity. You keep us going!
@sharonzhang870 Жыл бұрын
@@HistorySkills Please thank Mungo Lady and the original people's spirits. I've been 'GPS' guided here by them. May I ask a little favor from you and this community to send some love and prayers to Mungo Lake especially during this eclipse 11:11 portal time, to love balance equilibriate the magnetic excursion imprints from last magnetic pole shift, and to co-create auspicious joyful pole shift experiences onwards. I'd definitely love pray for all the spots that Ben mentioned in his post, I.e. the spots magnetic excursion happened during previous pole flips, namely Gothenberg, Laschamp, Hilina Pali, Mono Lake, Mungo Lake, Greenland. It's a huge cosmos project for all and we keep learning, improving, cocreating auspicious love vibration as we go. I've somehow been connected to the spirits there, and just feeling very guided and appropriate to ask this little favor from you & this community. Many thanks & much appreciation from a common earth dweller.
@bigred84384 ай бұрын
Weird image choice dude. Could have used images from near Lake Mungo at least.
@dennisholmes14542 жыл бұрын
thank tou for your reply. i am trying to find out who is doing the print over on the youtube videos!
@HistorySkills2 жыл бұрын
I do all of the audio and visual work myself. I hope that helps.
@davidhastings77142 жыл бұрын
They would not of known they were there if not for the scientists now they are upset. Everything they know has been given to them by science
@MegaBIGJOE642 жыл бұрын
Everything we know came from science.
@didebedbells9715 Жыл бұрын
Who cares what science know, real Australians the Aborigines as Europeans call them have always known they are the real Australians
@thebuilder20185 ай бұрын
its in the modern aboriginals genetics to whinge and complain until they get exactly what they want... this video failed to mention that
@grahamgillard3722Ай бұрын
How can anyone claim ownership of the remains of someone who lived and died thousands of years ago?
@joemanco-no4jy4 ай бұрын
No anatomy of Mungo Man, no evolutionary perspective. Just a weepy tale.
@neddyladdy2 жыл бұрын
I am at a loss here. How did a discovery, however momentous, change what had preciously already happened?
@HistorySkills2 жыл бұрын
The answer lies in the fact that there is a distinction between 'history' and 'the past'. This video might help explain a bit better: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKvYpGikrLZ5htU
@warwicklewis87352 жыл бұрын
@@HistorySkills there is also a distinction between history and archaeology. One you have failed to apply here.
@Antechynus Жыл бұрын
Mindless savage is a suitable title... When shown dna evidence remote sri lankan communities were happy and amazed to know their connection to the greater world of humanity... aboriginals when shown the same became violent and abusive towards the researchers.
@Tamaresque5 ай бұрын
What's the source for that assertion?
@Antechynus5 ай бұрын
@Tamaresque the ABC/BBC Documentary that followed the researchers... YT won't let me post link.
@petethundabox50674 ай бұрын
@@Antechynus You could always name it for us to look up ourselves. Your current description of this "ABC/BBC Documentary" is far too broad.
@Antechynus4 ай бұрын
@@petethundabox5067 ill see if I can find it.
@Antechynus4 ай бұрын
"The Journey of man" 2003 Spencer Wells... I saw the programme on the ABC. It may have been repackaged as "the human family tree" doco.
@jerlee6202 жыл бұрын
Is it possible he was wearing this red ochre on his skin the way some modern Africans do (i.e. Himba Tribe)?
@thebuilder20185 ай бұрын
yes but it's australia and aboriginals... that's all you need to know to instantly know the narrative will always be written to suit the aboriginals...
@stachman95313 ай бұрын
Shout out to my man Mungo Man RIP you will be missed🙏🙏🙏 He would have loved Kanye
@RobertGotschall-y2f5 ай бұрын
Some of us think it is plauysible that humans might have arrived in Australia from Africa as early as 130,000 BP.
@persimmontea63835 ай бұрын
That is about the time that bison came to North America ... and there is some evidence that humans may have come at the same time.
@nelsonx5326 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if life was fairly easy for these ancient people.
@B23775 Жыл бұрын
Yes it was if you knew the things we knew how to survive it was kinda easy
@nelsonx53264 ай бұрын
@@B23775 I learned something since leaving my initial comment. Hunter gatherers work about 15 hours a week. I was working 60 hours a week, half of them I'm sure to pay the various taxes in New York City, where even an electric bill is taxed. Mungo Lake Jerry probably had a good life with his waterfront community. The lake might have provided most of their food needs.
@technicianbis5250-ig1zdАй бұрын
@8:49 the ochre came from 200 miles away? Or maybe the red ochre came from a lot closer and the site is buried by shifting sands?? In science all possibilities should be assesed.
@stephandsean Жыл бұрын
I find it funny how the indigenous claim mungo man and lady to be one of their own, No where in history have you done that to your deceased or buried them in a way like that, I want more answers
@GregoryHawkins-d2p2 ай бұрын
Maybe their names were Clyde & Snookums!
@russpearson980211 күн бұрын
Who is the third unknown mystery ancestor. Seems a bit of a misdirection to me.
@roykelly54865 ай бұрын
sweet ending:)
@ROBERTGOTSCHALL-j8u6 ай бұрын
If 40 thousand years, why not 100 thousand? Tool carrying hominins had been in SE Asia for half a million years by then. There are some indications of that in Southern Australia.
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour81642 жыл бұрын
IF Humanity came "Out of Africa" in several migration waves, then there are no Indigenous People anywhere other than Africa. IF there are truly Indigenous People, then the "Out of Africa" claim is false. Can't have it both ways. Personally, I never accepted the "Out of Africa" hypothesis, Nature NEVER creates only one of a thing in only one place.
@dheath36972 жыл бұрын
There are many human species, more human species are discovered all the time, we modern humans emerged out of Africa and encountered other human species and sometimes interbred with them. They believe humans came out of Africa because the oldest human remains are always found in Africa, plus many other scientific reasons.
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour81642 жыл бұрын
@@dheath3697 They don't look anywhere else. If they took as much time, resources and intensity to look in Asia, The America's, etc for human remains as they do in Africa, the story would be very different.
@dheath36972 жыл бұрын
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 They very much do actually. You should get into this field of study, it's truly fascinating...
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour81642 жыл бұрын
@@dheath3697 Again, Nature never creates life in only one place and life develops according to its surroundings.
@dheath36972 жыл бұрын
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 I didn't say anything different, but doesn't make you right, you said they don't search anywhere else, but that's not true at all, they search much more in Europe, China, SE Asia and particularly USA. Keep an open mind and follow the research, it's fascinating, truly!
@anthonyburke56565 ай бұрын
3rd error, no evidence AT ALL that Mungo Man is related to modern Aboriginals, to the contrary, there is evidence “modern” aboriginals came from Southern Undia no more than 6,000 years ago, not 42,000+ years ago.
@chrisnewport78263 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@dennisholmes14542 жыл бұрын
Who is doing the printover for these videos?
@HistorySkills2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean voice over?
@dennisholmes14542 жыл бұрын
@@HistorySkills yes.
@HistorySkills2 жыл бұрын
I do the voice overs myself. More than welcome to hear any feedback you might have. I hope you enjoy the videos.
@ValeriePallaoro5 ай бұрын
8:48 Just because the ochre is red, from a distance of 100-200 km away doesn't mean they went there to get it. The lake is on a dehydrated river system and the more likely transmission of ocher is by trade either from group to group or through annual or biennial gatherings. Also ... can you _not_ do the photo thing? It's disconcerting to watch pictures that have no relevance to the story you're trying to tell, geologists not archaeologists, lake filled with water when Lake Mungo was dry, had been dry for thousands of years, random artefacts that did not exist at the dig, no actual photos of the dig or the archaeologists? You could do better, it's not that hard. I'd even rather snap shots of the peer reviewed articles you got your info from.
@doveseye.4666Ай бұрын
When was fire invented, created, known, burned cremated by made fire?
@doctorshoot29 күн бұрын
They could have asked the central and southern people who would have explained it over a coffee It seems that indigenous knowledge is always ignored unless a test tube can confirm something
@pixelpatter012 жыл бұрын
The 'mindless savages' must come in a later migration.
@weehudyy2 жыл бұрын
Yep , January 1788 , a ship full of mostly Irish convicts and the absolute dregs of the British army to ' guard ' them...
@pixelpatter012 жыл бұрын
@@weehudyy Funny how it worked out for the Brits, as both Ireland and Australia have a higher average income than the British now.
@weehudyy2 жыл бұрын
@@pixelpatter01 Didn't the Irish economy go belly up during the global financial meltdown , and now Northern Ireland has to deal with Brexit( another stroke of brit genius ... )
@jcoker4232 жыл бұрын
@@weehudyy Still better off than the average 'remote community'
@weehudyy2 жыл бұрын
@@jcoker423 Opinions vary ...
@craigdouglasmartens70372 жыл бұрын
One wonders if his people were honoring a shaman or artist. Ocher is a common medium for ancient rock art and therefore a confectioner the spirit world. Just an idea of course..
@Jagdtyger2A2 жыл бұрын
And from their people came the ancestors of the Chilean Yaghan peoples who arrived in South America shortlt after Mungo man's death
@mariabrown58282 жыл бұрын
could you please share more info on that
@Jagdtyger2A2 жыл бұрын
@@mariabrown5828 There is a couple videos here on KZbin about Australian Aborigines in South America, and there are articles on the web
@Jagdtyger2A2 жыл бұрын
@@mariabrown5828 One of the videos is by Highly Compelling's channel
@johnanderson79254 ай бұрын
I have found red ochre in areas.of Westover
@thespartan8476 Жыл бұрын
Mungo Man and Mungo Lady. Australia's oldest human remains. The skeletons that rewrote human history. No British people could ever do that or be that important. haha
@charlesw852 Жыл бұрын
Even in the 60s and 70s (and we’ll before) intelligent people did not simply assume our ancestors were mindless savages. This narrator is imposing a lot of his own presuppositions on to general thought.
@simonphelpsgardiner84132 жыл бұрын
A genuine ozzy
@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo4 ай бұрын
His name was Gerry.
@bobhart6774 ай бұрын
Mungo Jerry!
@aspenrebel4 ай бұрын
I thought humans had migrated to australia some 70,000 years ago??? After the end that ice age back then.
@debbijones54762 жыл бұрын
Ok... A few things: 1. Mungo Lady was a blonde white girl in what looked like wolf furs? The black man was visibly African American?? Are you really comfortable with entirely erasing Aboriginal people even from a story about us?? 2. Dude, do you have to lean into racist tropes QUITE so comfortably while, like everyone I'm sure, you show great enthusiasm and surprise that we are descended from "real humans" with feelings and thoughts just like yours! (Dramatic reveal)?? We aren't circus freaks and it's not the 60s anymore so you don't get to use that kind of racist coding without being called out. Edit this or remove it.
@reginaldfagan1202 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%!
@JJNoire2 жыл бұрын
‘Mindless cave men?” Wtf?
@YvonneWatson-ff5ex29 күн бұрын
Native Americans also used red ochre for many rituals as did the Chinese.
@sherrysmithrice19735 ай бұрын
If the earth is only 6000 years old , there is nothing older.
@Tamaresque5 ай бұрын
It isn't, so there is.
@PhilipRanson-d5tАй бұрын
She could have been burnt by bushfires.
@anthonyburke56565 ай бұрын
2nd error “brought in” why couldn’t it have been present for ceremonial purposes? Beggars belief the people kept the body unburied while some one walked 200 km to get the rock and carry it back 200km
@SMMore-bf4yi5 ай бұрын
The migration out of Africa may have been the first wave to leave Africa yet these ppls distant ancestors may have migrated originally from Australia creating what became the new African colony, like everything , new evidence n updates
@karthi70162 жыл бұрын
The British still insisted that Australia was uninhabited hy humans... Meaning that they did not consider aboriginals human beings.
@Yeah--mn9qk Жыл бұрын
They found anyone that wasnt the same colour as them not human beings, still do
@correctpolitically47842 жыл бұрын
I wish we could just clone some of these people. Then you'd have a way to tell just how intelligent they actually were. Mungo man may not even be aboriginal. He could have been another group before the group now. But we'll never know because they will make sure to hide that sht.
@okusfayreno85992 жыл бұрын
Australia used to look like Europe made of many nationsany of which were separated long distances for thousands of years however there all aboriginal the same way all Europeans are european
@sgtcrab25692 жыл бұрын
I think he was Irish.
@correctpolitically47842 жыл бұрын
@@sgtcrab2569 leprechaun ?
@walkertongdeeАй бұрын
Mungo Jerry and his wife.
@TheGeorgeLansing Жыл бұрын
"not mindless cave-dwellers..." What kind of mind-set sees the world that way?
@Dracsmolar4 ай бұрын
They could have saved a lot of time and energy if they had just found mungo Jerry. 😁
@mackfin88694 ай бұрын
204 they found a phone and a hammer
@oftin_wong4 ай бұрын
History didn't change ...some timelines got amended that's all
@SMunro2 жыл бұрын
42,000 yrs?
@mawi11722 жыл бұрын
You mean it turned out right, for once? They got to go back home? 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 God is great, isn't He?!!!!!!!!!